@Вхламинго Well I was referring to the instance of the boat, which he said was not justifiable. So apparently they had some things unjustifiable, but murdering your rape victims wasn't one.
Try places witch hilarious names. I used to live in KY. A lot of great humor there. I lived in Morehead near the Licking River by Big Brush and an area was known for its Hardwood Festival.
In Germany and Austria their could be a tour beginning at Kissing (Bavaria/Germany) to Petting (Bavaria/Germany) to Fucking (Austria) to Wedding (Berlin/Germany).
Thanks for that Patrick. It was a very good video. BTW: Joseph Banks was a naturalist, not a naturist. They're into a more *ahem* clothes optional lifestyle than I think would have been normal on the Endeavour.
4:13 I suffer from chronic Insomnia. Please don't take it as an insult but since you suggested it helps with sleep, let me give it a try: "You're an idiot" I'll let you know if it works. Please no hard feelings.
Around 3:80, you make it sound like the Maori tribes were at peace with each other. They weren't. A dominating tribe was overthrown by the tribe that the British sold muskets to in order to take political power influence over them.
Thatʻs not entirely correct neither. Were there warring tribes? Yes, but many tribes had alliances and mostly maintained relative peace. My iwi (tribe, nation) had alliances with nine other major tribes across New Zealand. And Ngāpuhi (whom muskets were sold) sought revenge over past grievances that involved multiple tribes & their allies across the North Island. My iwi was allied with half of those involved in the Ngāpuhi raids.
@@greamespens1460 No. There's a tribe of Maori who live on the Chatham islands, who were nearly wiped out by another tribe of Maori from the west of the north island who sent a war party out as they were learning colonialism the hard way from the British. There's a common misconception from some outdated and racist lessons people were taught a few decades ago that that tribe were the actual native people and the Maori wiped them out, which isn't true.
@@AholeAtheist Hey, just another slight correction, you are right with most of it except the Moriori have been shown to have settled the islands of the Chathams before the emergence of the Maori and are a separate Polynesian culture but they weren't the original settlers of Aotearoa but there is a little evidence of trade between the archipelagoes.
In Washington State, US there are few fun nautical place names. A few of my favorites are Mutiny Bay, Useless Bay, and Point No Point. Thanks for mentioning Cape Disappointment!
4:07 The "Endurance"? I'm sorry but the ship was a Whitby Cat class called the "Endeavour". Every Australian learns this in school and I am an Australian.
So who then was the Captain? Honest question bc idk, but it's worth mentioning that one does not need to hold the rank of Captain to be Captain of a ship and to be historically referred to as such if it goes with the context.
Daaaamn.. As someone who lives in Gisborne, I was recently thinking about what I could be the patron saint of, can't believe I didn't think of this. James got in before me.
Poverty Bay is stunning. Great weather. Lots of big roaches. Gisborne isn't one of our richest regions though. Used to go there a lot as a kid. Seemed people weren't too fussed with the name, hehe, at least they weren't when I was there years back.
Actually there is a Poverty Bay in the U.S. In Washington State Poverty Bay is shared between the cities of FederalWay, Des Moines, and Tacoma. Although I'm not sure about the etymology of the name.
Suggestion: The top hat has a lot of different literal translations, like cup hat, cylinder hat, and silk hat. It would be interesting if you could explain the various names of the top hat in different languages.
The sheep got scurvy but the good news is that no sailor got scurvy thanks to the men all eating sour kraut, or fermented cabbage, full of vitamin C, although did not know this, only its preventative effects.
A lot of the video is spent deploring the (obviously deplorable) actions by Cook et al. I would have enjoyed that time being spent doing some exploration into what went into the mindset of the explorers of that era. What personal and professional motivations caused them to make the decisions they made? If you are going to explore the moral aspect of what they did, it is more interesting to probe the why of it than it is to say "what an awful thing that colonialism stuff was".
My friend, if you'll allow me to make a suggestion, maybe stop saying "natives" and say "native people" or "indigenous people" instead. I've noticed this unfortunate choice of words in previous videos but as a New Zealand 'native' myself, this dated term hit much closer to home this time. 'Natives' has some patronising colonialist overtones that it's safer to just avoid nowadays ... As a token of my appreciation, if you use some term that isn't 'natives' in your next applicable video then I'll become a £5 Patreon supporter (for at least a year) (o; Sound fair?
They just took down the statue of him there in fact. In favour of a new Maori one which seems fair. I like it up that way but it's quite middle-of-nowhere
What's so sad about this? Some people died who would be long dead now anyway. We might as well be sad that Edward the Confessor has died. He could have been 1017 by now, cut down so young at 63.
It's sad because it's a pretty shit name to give a place because you were too dumb to take your Tahitian translator ashore the first time, then got spooked by playful natives and so killed them on the second, and then killed more on a fishing waka that they encountered while leaving and tried to make a last attempt to say that they meant well. Not so much a poverty of resources in Turanganui-a-Kiwa, as a poverty of competence and wisdom by Cook and his crew.
@@jackhopewell1745 I been, and I didn't shouted loud nor urinated on the street when I got drunken there, I manage to behave civilized way, UNLIKE the English tourists here in Budapest... Oh! And the English, who live here in Bp, are upset about our ways, our traditions and wants us to change our customs to English ones... Seems the British colonialism/imperialism still remains the mind o the English habits. BTW, how many languages you speak?
@@dantetre unlike England which is multicultural and embraces diversity, Hungary has serious problems with racism and antiziganism. Your quick attitude to paint all British tourists in Budapest with the same brush summarizes your internal hatred. Perhaps you are upset by the popularity of British culture and the English language in Hungary especially among the young who especially enjoy coming to work in the UK.
@@dantetre perhaps you should point your anger at the Germanic or Soviet cultures that actually suppressed Hungary for hundreds of years rather than a few drunk brits enjoying a holiday in Budapest.
@@jackhopewell1745 1) Language/Cultural destruction. Since you didn't answer my question, (How many languages you speak?) I assume, none. Sorry, only English! Poor man! Which proves my point, how how culturally disrespectful is the English/American culture. I can barely name formal colony were English is not official language nor the indigenous peoples language is not having problem restoring it's cultural power. Beside maybe India. Like at the end 1492 movie: "You never learn how to speak my language." Side note, in WW2 at Battle Britain, when Polish and Czech fighter pilots had to parachute over Britain, most of them were shot by English farmers. Just because of cultural ignorance, and the stupid farmers couldn't make difference between German or Polish/Czech language/accent...
Not true, it's just that mostly New Zealand is mountainous and/or was covered in trees which makes finding them and extracting them more difficult. These factors combined with its rather distant location from most of the world and relatively low population means that we really don't export much in the way of our material wealth. It just makes more sense to export agricultural products.
@@franzfanz U sure you wanna publicize that? Some greedy Australian corporate types might ruin it for NZ. I'm sure they're not all that way, but my long visit to Australia and NZ left me with a very positive view of NZ - very nice people mostly, but not so much the other - always looking to fleece travelers, or at least mostly. It has been over a decade now and NZ is real high on my list of places to go back to if I can - I hope it hasn't gone downhill much.
@@paulrevere2379 They know it's there but getting it out at a reasonable price is another thing. In Australia you often have masses of flat nothingness that allow for easy extraction plus fewer environmental considerations. It's a lot harder to get people to agree to mining when you're destroying a primeval forest or carving into a picturesque mountain. New Zealand hasn't really changed much. Property prices are a nightmare but otherwise life here continues as normal which is saying something given the last year and a bit.
@@franzfanz You had me at "masses of flat nothingness"😉 When I visited Australia in 2005 lot's of people suggested I visit Uluru/Ayer's Rock. (I have a keen sense of geography, distance and economy btw) I asked, what is it? Ans: It's a big red rock. Me: ok (ka-ching$, ka-ching$ to see a rock...tourists yes, me no) I went to NZ instead and stayed for a month. I was actually going to go anyway, but original plan was mainly focused on checking out Australia - best way to learn is to see for one's self. If I ever get to go again, I wish to have most of my time on the Te Araroa
The Moriori were chased to Chatham Island (as it's known in English) where they were all slaughtered by the Maori tribe whose chief said it was done "in accordance with our customs". Thomas Sowell Conquests and Cultures
How the fuck did it take that long to get to the point? I honestly consider unsubscribing. You really gotta work on that... going in such a tangent honestly I acually grew frustrated
The monologue is much too fast, but I can excuse that. The dismissive "we've talked about that already" is pretty extremely dismissive to a viewer who has Never before watched Any of your videos. I like learning new things, but I can't give a thumbs up when you put it that way - I'm putting it nicely.
Good grief, what the hell are you using for research, some right wing NZ books? ( we do have a rotten undercurrent of that here too) That 'melanesians' could have been settled in NZ when tasman came here goes back to the BS once published in the NZ school journal, a gov. publication for teachers, that the Moriori people in the Chatham islands were 'Melanesians' from earlier 'migrations' to NZ, but were invaded, enslaved and almost annihilated by the Maori from the NZ 'mainland'... re enforcing the 'convenient' assertion that 'superior races' replace 'primitive races'.. e.g. that the 'british race' naturally replace the Maori. e.g. social darwinism. Maori had already been in NZ for several hundred years when Tasman visited. Note: I've still flushing out 62 years of crap I 'learned' in this country, but have seen a lot of progress, but we are still learning the hard way. www.stuff.co.nz/national/4789044/Rewriting-the-history-of-Moriori teara.govt.nz/en/document/36646/school-journal-cover-1916
The demographic reality is that populations are always being replaced, as is evident throughout western countries today. Just look at school enrolments to see the future of your area.
What are some other sad place names?
sadville
Earth
Embarrass MN, USA
There's a place called "Hell" in Norway (it means something very different in Norwegian though).
Death Valley?
That’s where I live, except you remove the «bay».
Much love, your friends at Rev Media!!
In Denmark there is Jammerbugten, meaning "Bay of lamentation".
Back in the old days, many ships wrecked there...
That sounds like an warhammer 40k name
Don't know that game, sorry.
Jammer = lamentation/wailing
bugten = the bay
Oh yes, just south-east of the much more happy Bay of Plenty. Also Gisborne might want to talk to Apia.
I approve this video and declare Name Explain part of the British Empire.
"And another four because they resisted being molested"
Because that *was* justifiable?
Really brings into perspective the morals of these people
@Вхламинго
Well I was referring to the instance of the boat, which he said was not justifiable.
So apparently they had some things unjustifiable, but murdering your rape victims wasn't one.
FYI, Cook's HMS Endeavour was the namesake of the Space Shuttle Endeavour.
2:01 How The Grinch Ate Merchant Ships
Try places witch hilarious names. I used to live in KY. A lot of great humor there. I lived in Morehead near the Licking River by Big Brush and an area was known for its Hardwood Festival.
In Germany and Austria their could be a tour beginning at Kissing (Bavaria/Germany) to Petting (Bavaria/Germany) to Fucking (Austria) to Wedding (Berlin/Germany).
Hurray for Kentucky! Fellow "used to live in KY" here.
I wondered where Colonel Sanders came up with that slogan "Finger kickin' good"
Thanks for that Patrick. It was a very good video. BTW: Joseph Banks was a naturalist, not a naturist. They're into a more *ahem* clothes optional lifestyle than I think would have been normal on the Endeavour.
4:13 I suffer from chronic Insomnia. Please don't take it as an insult but since you suggested it helps with sleep, let me give it a try:
"You're an idiot"
I'll let you know if it works. Please no hard feelings.
Your comment makes little sense, but it's still funny.
Maybe you have an untapped talent.
Not everything needs to be positive. I think it's refreshing to have negitive names for regions.
Accident, Maryland
Boring, Oregon
Dogwatch, CA (idk if that's negative or positive...depends)
I reckon the same can be said about Weed, CA.
Around 3:80, you make it sound like the Maori tribes were at peace with each other. They weren't. A dominating tribe was overthrown by the tribe that the British sold muskets to in order to take political power influence over them.
LOL
Yes didn't they (Moaris) wipe out a tribe of islanders.
Thatʻs not entirely correct neither. Were there warring tribes? Yes, but many tribes had alliances and mostly maintained relative peace. My iwi (tribe, nation) had alliances with nine other major tribes across New Zealand. And Ngāpuhi (whom muskets were sold) sought revenge over past grievances that involved multiple tribes & their allies across the North Island. My iwi was allied with half of those involved in the Ngāpuhi raids.
@@greamespens1460 No. There's a tribe of Maori who live on the Chatham islands, who were nearly wiped out by another tribe of Maori from the west of the north island who sent a war party out as they were learning colonialism the hard way from the British. There's a common misconception from some outdated and racist lessons people were taught a few decades ago that that tribe were the actual native people and the Maori wiped them out, which isn't true.
@@AholeAtheist Hey, just another slight correction, you are right with most of it except the Moriori have been shown to have settled the islands of the Chathams before the emergence of the Maori and are a separate Polynesian culture but they weren't the original settlers of Aotearoa but there is a little evidence of trade between the archipelagoes.
In Washington State, US there are few fun nautical place names. A few of my favorites are Mutiny Bay, Useless Bay, and Point No Point.
Thanks for mentioning Cape Disappointment!
I wonder if that big hit by Otis Redding is popular at Poverty Bay.
"On the shores of Poverty Bay."
What about Poverty Bay in Washington?
Cook? Who else has seen the Drunk History scene of Cook’s visit to Hawaii? That was hilarious
4:07 The "Endurance"? I'm sorry but the ship was a Whitby Cat class called the "Endeavour". Every Australian learns this in school and I am an Australian.
Fun fact. James Cook was NOT a captain when he charted New Zealand but only a lieutenant. He became a captain on his second voyage.
So who then was the Captain?
Honest question bc idk, but it's worth mentioning that one does not need to hold the rank of Captain to be Captain of a ship and to be historically referred to as such if it goes with the context.
My home town of federal way was also called poverty bay! It was almost named that
There is a Poverty Bay within Puget Sound (Salish Sea) in Washington State USA. The town of Des Moines WA is in Poverty Bay.
Daaaamn.. As someone who lives in Gisborne, I was recently thinking about what I could be the patron saint of, can't believe I didn't think of this. James got in before me.
Ahahahaaaa... Seriously though I can't believe my first suggestion was picked up so quickly.
Poverty Bay is stunning. Great weather. Lots of big roaches. Gisborne isn't one of our richest regions though. Used to go there a lot as a kid. Seemed people weren't too fussed with the name, hehe, at least they weren't when I was there years back.
Actually there is a Poverty Bay in the U.S. In Washington State Poverty Bay is shared between the cities of FederalWay, Des Moines, and Tacoma. Although I'm not sure about the etymology of the name.
Suggestion: The top hat has a lot of different literal translations, like cup hat, cylinder hat, and silk hat. It would be interesting if you could explain the various names of the top hat in different languages.
@10:57 the feels hit hard😢😊
The sheep got scurvy but the good news is that no sailor got scurvy thanks to the men all eating sour kraut, or fermented cabbage, full of vitamin C, although did not know this, only its preventative effects.
I recall reading that Thomas Cook has finally gotten his comeuppance. They went bust.
It’s lovely place my son lives in Gisborne with his wife and my Grandson.
My guess before watching was it was a debtor's colony set up by the British.
Great video!
Blue Ball, Pennsylvania.
In the same state, “Top Gear” made Intercourse world famous
A lot of the video is spent deploring the (obviously deplorable) actions by Cook et al. I would have enjoyed that time being spent doing some exploration into what went into the mindset of the explorers of that era. What personal and professional motivations caused them to make the decisions they made? If you are going to explore the moral aspect of what they did, it is more interesting to probe the why of it than it is to say "what an awful thing that colonialism stuff was".
My friend, if you'll allow me to make a suggestion, maybe stop saying "natives" and say "native people" or "indigenous people" instead. I've noticed this unfortunate choice of words in previous videos but as a New Zealand 'native' myself, this dated term hit much closer to home this time. 'Natives' has some patronising colonialist overtones that it's safer to just avoid nowadays ... As a token of my appreciation, if you use some term that isn't 'natives' in your next applicable video then I'll become a £5 Patreon supporter (for at least a year) (o; Sound fair?
4:13 "I'm just bad with names"
*Hol' up*
I am from gisborne and we are still suffering from the effects of
That is why the locals call him Captain CRook and they call it East Coast now cause to hell what he thought
My humble request to u , plz take ur time and utter slowly, it is very difficult to understand on your tempo and accent 🙏 big fan ❤️🧡
How do Sheep get scurvy? I thought every animal (or mammal?) except Guinea pigs, some bats and primates produces Vitamin C on its own
Most basic form of malnutrition (simply not enough fresh food) my guess.
They just took down the statue of him there in fact. In favour of a new Maori one which seems fair. I like it up that way but it's quite middle-of-nowhere
Young Nick’s head is on the south side of Poverty bay
I live near Mount Disappointment.... 😬
Don't we all?
I'd say a sad place name is Swastika, New York.
Not if you know the real meaning of the word "swastika". It's actually a very good name.
There was a Swastika Ontario Canada but that town merged with another. The town was named long before the Nazis were formed
Swastika, NY recently voted NOT to change its name. (www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/swastika-new-york-keeps-name-trnd/index.html)
A sad thing is that you dont understand the history of the swastika
@@danielbishop1863 So did the town Fucking in Austria...
Kiwa Bay sounds nice.
I bet you are far from the first person to call Joseph Banks a "Naturist" 😂
A naturalist is a person who studies organisms...is a sentence you don't want to get wrong.
@@BeingTheHunt 🤣. Especially funny bc it took me an extra half second to get it. Built in comedic timing.
Plot twist: Vikings actually discovered New Zealand
LOL
Boring Oregon has to be one of the larger sad named places.
Been there. The Salvation Army camp ain't too shabby a place - nice people.
Can you explain why The Netherlands called Belanda in Indonesia?
And Pays-Bas in French?
What's so sad about this? Some people died who would be long dead now anyway. We might as well be sad that Edward the Confessor has died. He could have been 1017 by now, cut down so young at 63.
It's sad because it's a pretty shit name to give a place because you were too dumb to take your Tahitian translator ashore the first time, then got spooked by playful natives and so killed them on the second, and then killed more on a fishing waka that they encountered while leaving and tried to make a last attempt to say that they meant well.
Not so much a poverty of resources in Turanganui-a-Kiwa, as a poverty of competence and wisdom by Cook and his crew.
What about "Hell" Michigan, USA?
Means bright in German and possibly in the Scandinavian languages.
"Complete disregard and lack of respect for land(culture), that isn't yours."
Best stance what describes English and American culture even today.
I don't think you've ever been to England if you think this is true.
@@jackhopewell1745 I been, and I didn't shouted loud nor urinated on the street when I got drunken there, I manage to behave civilized way, UNLIKE the English tourists here in Budapest...
Oh! And the English, who live here in Bp, are upset about our ways, our traditions and wants us to change our customs to English ones...
Seems the British colonialism/imperialism still remains the mind o the English habits.
BTW, how many languages you speak?
@@dantetre unlike England which is multicultural and embraces diversity, Hungary has serious problems with racism and antiziganism. Your quick attitude to paint all British tourists in Budapest with the same brush summarizes your internal hatred. Perhaps you are upset by the popularity of British culture and the English language in Hungary especially among the young who especially enjoy coming to work in the UK.
@@dantetre perhaps you should point your anger at the Germanic or Soviet cultures that actually suppressed Hungary for hundreds of years rather than a few drunk brits enjoying a holiday in Budapest.
@@jackhopewell1745 1) Language/Cultural destruction. Since you didn't answer my question, (How many languages you speak?) I assume, none. Sorry, only English! Poor man! Which proves my point, how how culturally disrespectful is the English/American culture. I can barely name formal colony were English is not official language nor the indigenous peoples language is not having problem restoring it's cultural power. Beside maybe India. Like at the end 1492 movie: "You never learn how to speak my language."
Side note, in WW2 at Battle Britain, when Polish and Czech fighter pilots had to parachute over Britain, most of them were shot by English farmers. Just because of cultural ignorance, and the stupid farmers couldn't make difference between German or Polish/Czech language/accent...
New Zealand isn't that rich in natural resources in general...
Not true, it's just that mostly New Zealand is mountainous and/or was covered in trees which makes finding them and extracting them more difficult. These factors combined with its rather distant location from most of the world and relatively low population means that we really don't export much in the way of our material wealth. It just makes more sense to export agricultural products.
@@franzfanz U sure you wanna publicize that? Some greedy Australian corporate types might ruin it for NZ.
I'm sure they're not all that way, but my long visit to Australia and NZ left me with a very positive view of NZ - very nice people mostly, but not so much the other - always looking to fleece travelers, or at least mostly.
It has been over a decade now and NZ is real high on my list of places to go back to if I can - I hope it hasn't gone downhill much.
@@paulrevere2379 They know it's there but getting it out at a reasonable price is another thing. In Australia you often have masses of flat nothingness that allow for easy extraction plus fewer environmental considerations. It's a lot harder to get people to agree to mining when you're destroying a primeval forest or carving into a picturesque mountain.
New Zealand hasn't really changed much. Property prices are a nightmare but otherwise life here continues as normal which is saying something given the last year and a bit.
@@franzfanz You had me at "masses of flat nothingness"😉
When I visited Australia in 2005 lot's of people suggested I visit Uluru/Ayer's Rock. (I have a keen sense of geography, distance and economy btw) I asked, what is it? Ans: It's a big red rock.
Me: ok (ka-ching$, ka-ching$ to see a rock...tourists yes, me no)
I went to NZ instead and stayed for a month. I was actually going to go anyway, but original plan was mainly focused on checking out Australia - best way to learn is to see for one's self.
If I ever get to go again, I wish to have most of my time on the Te Araroa
Tribes in New Zealand before the Maori? As a kiwi this is news to me lmao
The Moriori were chased to Chatham Island (as it's known in English) where they were all slaughtered by the Maori tribe whose chief said it was done "in accordance with our customs".
Thomas Sowell Conquests and Cultures
Don't lie, before the british there was gondor in new zealand.
Only the South Island. And don't forget Rohan. I think the Simbilmyn still grows there.
Not certain I spelled it right.
Aren't you great, apologizing for Captain Cook.
Sarcastic place names?
“You’re an idiot” 👌
This comment is a joke, just to clarify
Never clicked so fast on your video 🍻
How the fuck did it take that long to get to the point? I honestly consider unsubscribing. You really gotta work on that... going in such a tangent honestly I acually grew frustrated
The monologue is much too fast, but I can excuse that.
The dismissive "we've talked about that already" is pretty extremely dismissive to a viewer who has Never before watched Any of your videos.
I like learning new things, but I can't give a thumbs up when you put it that way - I'm putting it nicely.
XD
hi
Good grief, what the hell are you using for research, some right wing NZ books? ( we do have a rotten undercurrent of that here too)
That 'melanesians' could have been settled in NZ when tasman came here goes back to the BS once published in the NZ school journal, a gov. publication for teachers, that the Moriori people in the Chatham islands were 'Melanesians' from earlier 'migrations' to NZ, but were invaded, enslaved and almost annihilated by the Maori from the NZ 'mainland'... re enforcing the 'convenient' assertion that 'superior races' replace 'primitive races'.. e.g. that the 'british race' naturally replace the Maori. e.g. social darwinism.
Maori had already been in NZ for several hundred years when Tasman visited.
Note: I've still flushing out 62 years of crap I 'learned' in this country, but have seen a lot of progress, but we are still learning the hard way.
www.stuff.co.nz/national/4789044/Rewriting-the-history-of-Moriori
teara.govt.nz/en/document/36646/school-journal-cover-1916
The demographic reality is that populations are always being replaced, as is evident throughout western countries today. Just look at school enrolments to see the future of your area.
the content would be great. but the style of speaking - I don´t stand it. sorry. so fast. and unclear. why. oh why!
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