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I recently picked up the 2015 MacBook 512gb for £750. It is an absolutely astonishing machine. I use mine for general computer tasks, mail, safari, photos, iTunes, managing photos and videos from my GoPro. I also do some light video editing in iMovie for fun. Editing gaming videos etc. And it doesn't struggle at all. I used to have the MacBook Pro 2015, and although its a much more powerful machine, I love the MacBook. it's small thin light and more than powerful enough for my use. So the real question is, do you need a powerful machine for intense graphical and video editing? get the MacBook Pro. or do you want a small light Mac for day to day computing with more storage? get the MacBook. Both are excellent machines, it is personal preference and what your needs are. The MacBook is by no means a slow computer, mine is 2 years old as is still lightning fast. I tend to use mine a lot on the sofa or in bed, so the smaller size is perfect for me. Best bet is to get to an apple store and see for yourself, there is no clear answer, its different from person to person.
cloudgirl150 I’m glad I could help. You really won’t regret it. I did opt for the 512gb which had the faster processor. But I know the 2016 and 2017 models are even faster, especially if you go for the 512gb model. The 2017 even comes with an i5 now with the 512gb version. Can pick these up for about £1100 brand new on Amazon now too saving you a few hundred compared to the Apple store. :D
hovercroft thanks for this comment I’m debating on MacBook or msi GS65 same situation but if you say the MacBook can video edit some GoPro footage nicely then I might just go with that
@@christopherarocha92 Just cruising through comments and I see you are (were) debating msi GS65 vs macbook and I can say i have both and with whatever you picked you picked a solid choice!
As a student i wouldve bought the macbook if it was 899 or maybe even 999 but having it as the same price as the macbook pro is ridiculous. Its an inch bigger with a better screen and more power.
They do have it for $999. It's better to get it at Best Buy than Apple because of the student discount that you get. I don't have mine yet, but I do know that this where the better deals to get Macbooks are so you may be lucky to get yours if you still want this.
CWC Technologies loL!!!! Efficient and to the point!!! I like it... it’s hard for me to stay focused and I stayed with him throughout the entire thing.
Or maybe the MacBook is good for those who use their iMac for the heavy duty tasks and just want something small light and simple for on to Go? That's why I'm looking at one.
Exactly. It's not just portability either. Many people might prefer the laptop that runs cooler, because you can get more lap time without it becoming too hot and uncomfortable to use.
Michael Molenda Apple products don’t have any power imo. I use a MacBook and an iPhone only for light day to day tasks. I built my own PC to do real heavy duty tasks from programming, art, gaming, and rendering and editing videos.
Locking the screen brightness to 100% would also mean the Pro was producing more Nits for that test. Ideally they'd be matched on nits, not percent. You don't need fancy equipment to do that, you can do it with an SLR or something.
MacBook: People constantly, and I mean constantly, on the go and don't need too much power for what they're doing, which is email/word processing/music and video streaming/web browsing. MacBook Pro: People who don't mind some more weight and want more power for what they do, which can include video editing/music...stuff/idk virtualization/compiling power?/etc.
The thing is. Who is running virtual machines on a macbook while on the go? Wouldn't it be cheaper and more reliable to get a old i7 desktop computer for a few hundred bucks to spin up test VMs remotely at home? Even coding doesn't require that much horsepower these days. The only thing I can think of is mobile video editing but in that case you would go for the 15" mbp by default. The 13" mbp and mba is bulky, has worse battery life, and has the risk of the fan clogging up with dust down the road. I personally think the macbook is the perfect laptop for someone like me that doesn't need a mobile desktop replacement and doesn't want to be tapping on a iPad. Even though the keys are flat and hardly press in, it's a whole lot better than the Apple keyboard cover. Lastly, macOS is much more versatile and intended for productivity, where iOS is not. I'm waiting for the macbook 2019 refresh with Intel Amber Lake. It should be a noticeable bump in battery life and performance under TDP. I expect to keep that mb 12" for a solid 7 years.
@@markm0000 i have 12" macbook and I use it mainly for web browsing. The only problem is it get very hot from the bottom and sometimes loading tabs in chrom is slow, like really slow.
@@markm0000 I use chrome because all my passwords and accounts are saved in it. I use it on my phone, PC, macbook, and iPad. also I have 6 extensions. Pocket, Kaspersky, Dark reader, instant dictionary, ublock, and discussions add on for Google search.
If you're going for the minimum for each model, then yeah, the price is the same so go with the Pro. But if I want a laptop with 500GB of storage (and not planning on doing anything that I'd need the maximum powerful processor for), I'm going for the 500GB model of the Macbook, which is $500 cheaper than the 500GB Macbook Pro here in Canada.
which is totally enough for most users, I have the 128gb version and I have installed every app I need and still got about 60gb of free storage! and my apps includes 3 games, office apps, twitch, steam and so on.
Only 38 likes two years later? This guy is on the money. They are NOT the same price. The MacBook 12” was simply the only model that had a base spec of a usable 256 instead of the unusable 128gb. 128 is a joke.
It is not just portability - the MacBook has a much more sophisticated ergonomic wedge-shaped design, whereas the Pro is comparatively backwards with the old-fashioned rectangular shape that is comparatively uncomfortable to rest ones hands on. The interesting review that I look forwards to is comparing the speed of the base 1.2 GHz model to the 1.3 and 1.4 GHz options, and see how those numbers vary. Also, instead of quoting benchmarks, why not conduct some real world timing tests (in seconds).
The MacBook is an awful choice over the MacBook Pro. Not only is the Pro the same price, it is almost better in EVERY OTHER WAY except for the portability. Also, the Pro is 3 pounds, same as MacBook Air 13 inch. Hardly something that's difficult to carry around.
lol please tell me you went for the mbp pro?! I bought my first Mac 6days ago and I chose the baseline 13" mbp and didn't even think about the MacBook since it only has one port and too small display and not enough power for me! If I wanted a laptop that can just surf the web, I'd go for something like 300dollar windows laptop. MBP can handle light gaming but the MacBook can't. MBP runs CS:GO at low settings at 100+ fps so its not bad at all.
Good video. I just feel like most of the consumers seriously battling between both of these base model computers are also taking into consideration the storage space of the SSD. The video mentioned it briefly, but more so highlighted the negative aspects of the MacBook vs it's Pro variant. For a basic user that wants the extra storage on the base MacBook Pro, they will have to spend a couple hundred more.
Michael Silverman Anybody who buys this is getting ripped off 200 for 256 400 for 512 and a whopping 800 dollars for for one terabyte that's fucking ridiculous. That's what I hate about apple they take advantage of the consumers they know that's not going to be enough space to do anything on then charge A fortune to upgrade the storage.
I have a gold 12 inch Macbook. I know the Pro has better performance, but I prefer the look and I am not into video editing or anything that would require me to have the better specs. Plus, the bigger storage is very satisfying, especially if you want to duel boot Windows 10. It's just personal preference, they're both great in their own ways.
You failed to mention the MacBook Pro fans and how they ramp up to 7200 rpm on most simple tasks like Web browsing. The MacBook is a whisper quiet solution with great portability and good performance for day to day use.
I think this is the deciding factor for me. I hate it when my computer gets super loud randomly when I'm not even doing intensive tasks. I want the faster processor, but the size and silentness of 12" seems to be what's better for me.
Dax Carson i guess not much better due to thermal throtelling. i tried both in the apple store side by side and found out while exporting 4k testfootage in final cut that the macbook was running from the beginning only in 70-90 percent cpu usage while the pro was continuesly running on 90-100 percent. thatx why the pro was twice as fast in the end. guess its the same for the higher speced models.
with cloud storage in the future this won't be the problem. I have 128gb, i use my older computer to store my movies, and the rest remains pretty light ! But i would agree with you if you wan't to do video editing for instance !
Tried and returned both at the store. The dual cores processors are too slow for a "pro" laptop. The 15 got a proper CPU but I dont like 15" laptop and the prices are stupid. Btw the sound in the 13 may sound fuller and louder, the midranges generate a tiring distortion that make the 12" easier to listen to.
Guys if you take the Macbook Pro though, don't stick with the base 128gb… that's ridiculously low and you'll regret it. The storage cannot be replaced so you want to be getting at bare minimum 256gb. Also think about when you'll want to sell the device: 128gb in 2022 for example will be out of question.
What the fuck was Apple thinking 128 gigs is not enough to do shit on a pro machine. There are cell phones with more storage then a 1,299 dollar lap top
I have a late 2013 MacBook Pro and it edits everything and isn't slow at all, benchmarks for the 12" MacBook look pretty similar, don't know why you think it's too slow. Sure the new pro is faster but I doubt the 12" is as slow as you're making it. Portability is a big aspect in the real word.
amazing editing, super helpful review. This review was quite literally exactly what I was looking for, since I don't pay more than $1,500 on computers on principle. (a powerful rig could be built for $500-900 easily) Being an on the go audio recorder for many companies, I'm used to having many SD cards and all that what not, so thank you for the easy comparison. definitely helped my decision! Thank you so much!
I really don’t understand why they made the MacBook and the MacBook Pro baseline models the same price. Yes, I know that the MacBook is more portable, but is one inch really that big of a difference? The 13 inch MacBook Pro can still fit in a backpack, and the extra pound will really not be noticeable, so it is still portable. It would have made more sense if the MacBook had a slightly lower price. I mean, the MacBook Pro is better in every way- power, display, screen size.
Thank You. I was almost deciding what would i use for programming, producing music and study. I thought that the macbook was the lightest and had a better battery, but is not the best.
hi, im an android developer, im planning to buy a macbook, my target is weight and portability because i always commute in the bus and train, so maybe il take the Macbook 12inch, is the high end of macbook 12inch 1.4ghz i7, 16gb memory is enough for Android Studio? When im at work i always used to have a 10 tab of chrome, 2instance of ANdroid studio, and 1-2 emulator, is it enough for my need?
Whaaaa I want a showdown of the air vs MacBook with the breakdown you did here.You ruled out the Air but was the $999 version. But you can upgrade it to a 2.2 Ghz - 3.2 Turbo boost + i7 processor for $150. Still making it $150 less then the MacBook (or $50 more if upgraded to equal SSD memory) I feel that would be a good showdown
I'm starting Uni soon and will be doing Photoshop and Illustrator work. Graphic design to be exact. Should I get a MacBook Pro 13 or a Razer Blade Stealth?
Which laptop is the best for a college student ? I thought of taking the mac book touch bar but then I am not sure whether its worth it. Which is the best laptop for college students. Can u recommend !!
Those are the wrong prices, the 2017 MacBook at best buy starts at 1,699 and the 2015 MacBook Pro starts at $1,359. The 2017 MacBook Pro starts at $1,899 Get your pricing right!!
Given that there is no significant difference in price, what should I buy from the two???, I’d be mostly using keynote, pages and other applications needed for college
yea becasue i was going to buy the 12inch but i was like thats stupid to do that when i can get something way more better and the same battery life as well (i wanted the 12inch because i move around a lot. i have an air and the battery sucks so im upgrading will . definitely be buying the pro )
macOS in itself only takes up max 12GB in my experience though, and honestly with a laptop I only need enough internal storage for all my programs and I store everything else on a regularly backed up external drive...
Any advice for me? I need a new laptop bad! My old dell is obsolete and weighs a ton. I jus need to download movies, browse the net and write. Not really into web design or any heavy duty stuff. I'm a doctor who's tied up with med exams!!! Sooo can't really game for a year!! I'm considering getting the MacBook for my birthday. Thoughts?
I'm about to graduate and will proceed to aviation. I'm planning to buy Microsoft Flight Simulator and the no touch bar model might not be strong enough to carry the game. Do you guys recommend the 13" with touch bar?
Such a bad review. Only cause all u reviewers are editing videos... 99% of the guys dont use a laptop for that, i also only cut 2-3 videos a year and a macbook 12 is more than enough powerful for me. Even with a 4 times better gpu they still are both garbage anyway compared to a discret gpu. Sure two USB-C ports might be better for you as a "videocreator", but tell me why should i use these port? I only use it 1 or 2 times a year to copy anything from an usb-stick to my mac, but i really dont know what i should plug in more....
3:30 uhmm. Sorry, but you should set brightness by nits level, not percents. Especially when you clearly said before, that macbook pro have way brighter (500 vs 350 nits) display. In other words: get yourself a luminance meter, that's a must-have for reviewer.
niter43 you're missing the point, friend. An average user isn't going to care about nits. If they want the brightness maxed out, they're gonna mash that button, no matter how much nits their screen gives off
+Vadim Yuryev Uhm, that's average user problems. It was a test of battery, and devices should have same conditions. People that come for product review is smart enough to set brightness to levels they actually need, not the maximum available to burn eyes and drain battery. If you still don't agree - bring them to park on sunny day. Macbook 12 gets technical loss with 0 hours of battery due to screen not bright enough for usage, when Pro version is ok. But that's quite stupid because we tried to test battery and not screen, huh?
Macbook pro 13" 2016 with touchbar and 512gb or Macbook Pro 13" 2017 without touchbar and 256gb? Both the same price. One have the advantage of storage and touchbar and the other has Kaby Lake. Which one?
Alexandru Turcoman I personally would go with the newest one available, based on resale value. There is a higher demand for a one year old device than two or more. Unless you will have a lot of videos or something that takes a lot of space, you should be fine. Otherwise you can get an external drive if you wanted.
Vadim Yuryev Thanks for answering mate. I agree with you. Im pretending to install Windows on it for heavy university programmes and 256gb may be short
Alexandru Turcoman if I was you I would look at your current computers storage usage and after how many years. If you're using more than 256 and don't want to compromise then go with the 512
I was gonna say there's no reason to choose the 12 inch MacBook because you can put a 128gb SD card in the 13 inch MacBook Pro but I forgot.... It's only got the usb c ports 🙈
-if ports are really important for you (sd card slot usb a etc) the 2015 is a better buy and maybe a bit cheaper -if the better screen, better speakers and more portability are more important to you, you should buy the 13 inch mbp base 2016/2017 (maybe you get the 2016 model cheaper)
John Grimes the Pro is really light still and very portable, not much difference in portability imo. the pro is 500g heavier, that's nothing. I really don't see any.reason to get a macbook
John Grimes yeah that's fair enough if you really can't stretch beyond the $1299, but if you could stretch your budget to get the 256gb Pro, it'd be way worth it the pro will last you a lot longer. I am in an similar dilemma and even though I love the size of the macbook , the pro is just better in every single way. I went to the electronics store yesterday and picked up both because I really thought I wouldn't be happy with the weight of the pro, and I picked up the pro and it was a breeze to carry. also it might be better if you decide to do more intensive tasks in the future. Haha I've really thought this over alot!
Matthew Martini yeah it's just I'm in Ireland so they're more expensive so they're both at the same price of €1534, or something like that and then the 256GB Pro is €1800 almost I think and I dunno if I can justify spending that, I'm a student and don't even have a car yet 😂😂
John Grimes 😂😂 you could get an Air for half the price and save the rest for a car? or you could get last year's Pro the 2016 for alot cheaper on Apple refurbished site and still save some money.
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Apple recently refreshed the 12" Retina MacBook and 13" MacBook Pro for 2017 with faster Intel chips and other internal improvements. Base price for both new models comes in at $1299, but which one should you choose?
AppleInsider does the RAM matteres a lot in comparson? Love your vids dude
AppleInsider lol
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the ram speed really doesn`t matter in 99% of use cases! anything 1600mhz + is fast enough for most people I think
Elina Vance :3 thank you
AppleInsider Thanks for that video. But is the Macbook Pro not too heavy for students?
The 12" MacBook should have been $999 and replaced MacBook Air.
BOBlibob Air is still better. That’s why it’s still available low-key
@@chikennoruka72 no it’s not
@@Devreything your 3 years late 💀
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I recently picked up the 2015 MacBook 512gb for £750. It is an absolutely astonishing machine. I use mine for general computer tasks, mail, safari, photos, iTunes, managing photos and videos from my GoPro. I also do some light video editing in iMovie for fun. Editing gaming videos etc. And it doesn't struggle at all. I used to have the MacBook Pro 2015, and although its a much more powerful machine, I love the MacBook. it's small thin light and more than powerful enough for my use.
So the real question is, do you need a powerful machine for intense graphical and video editing? get the MacBook Pro. or do you want a small light Mac for day to day computing with more storage? get the MacBook.
Both are excellent machines, it is personal preference and what your needs are. The MacBook is by no means a slow computer, mine is 2 years old as is still lightning fast.
I tend to use mine a lot on the sofa or in bed, so the smaller size is perfect for me. Best bet is to get to an apple store and see for yourself, there is no clear answer, its different from person to person.
This is exactly what I needed to see. The video was about to convince me to get the Pro but after reading your comment I'm getting the Macbook. Thanks
cloudgirl150 I’m glad I could help. You really won’t regret it. I did opt for the 512gb which had the faster processor. But I know the 2016 and 2017 models are even faster, especially if you go for the 512gb model. The 2017 even comes with an i5 now with the 512gb version. Can pick these up for about £1100 brand new on Amazon now too saving you a few hundred compared to the Apple store. :D
hovercroft thanks for this comment I’m debating on MacBook or msi GS65 same situation but if you say the MacBook can video edit some GoPro footage nicely then I might just go with that
@@christopherarocha92 Just cruising through comments and I see you are (were) debating msi GS65 vs macbook and I can say i have both and with whatever you picked you picked a solid choice!
As a student i wouldve bought the macbook if it was 899 or maybe even 999 but having it as the same price as the macbook pro is ridiculous. Its an inch bigger with a better screen and more power.
Agreed. Apple's pricing is all off. So glad I got my MacBook Pro
Joe Harris yeah, plus it has a better display.
At Best Buy the base model Macbook is $200 than the Macbook Pro which makes it a more tempting buy
Orson Meyreles it must be last years model then
They do have it for $999. It's better to get it at Best Buy than Apple because of the student discount that you get. I don't have mine yet, but I do know that this where the better deals to get Macbooks are so you may be lucky to get yours if you still want this.
You are a cyborg. You did not blink once while reading the teleprompter. Are you looking for Sarah Conner? LOL Just kidding good video.
No teleprompter. Just an iPhone slightly out of frame ;)
Chad guy is right. Just slow down bro !
Chad Christian hes a reptilian
CWC Technologies loL!!!!
Efficient and to the point!!! I like it... it’s hard for me to stay focused and I stayed with him throughout the entire thing.
Or maybe the MacBook is good for those who use their iMac for the heavy duty tasks and just want something small light and simple for on to Go? That's why I'm looking at one.
Exactly. It's not just portability either. Many people might prefer the laptop that runs cooler, because you can get more lap time without it becoming too hot and uncomfortable to use.
The exact same apply to the MacBook Pro. It's not that .3 pounds will break your back.
Michael Molenda but why? For the same money get something good
Michael Molenda Yes very good point. But I'm looking for one to use for everything like editing, school, etc
Michael Molenda Apple products don’t have any power imo. I use a MacBook and an iPhone only for light day to day tasks. I built my own PC to do real heavy duty tasks from programming, art, gaming, and rendering and editing videos.
Locking the screen brightness to 100% would also mean the Pro was producing more Nits for that test. Ideally they'd be matched on nits, not percent. You don't need fancy equipment to do that, you can do it with an SLR or something.
MacBook: People constantly, and I mean constantly, on the go and don't need too much power for what they're doing, which is email/word processing/music and video streaming/web browsing.
MacBook Pro: People who don't mind some more weight and want more power for what they do, which can include video editing/music...stuff/idk virtualization/compiling power?/etc.
The thing is. Who is running virtual machines on a macbook while on the go? Wouldn't it be cheaper and more reliable to get a old i7 desktop computer for a few hundred bucks to spin up test VMs remotely at home? Even coding doesn't require that much horsepower these days. The only thing I can think of is mobile video editing but in that case you would go for the 15" mbp by default. The 13" mbp and mba is bulky, has worse battery life, and has the risk of the fan clogging up with dust down the road.
I personally think the macbook is the perfect laptop for someone like me that doesn't need a mobile desktop replacement and doesn't want to be tapping on a iPad. Even though the keys are flat and hardly press in, it's a whole lot better than the Apple keyboard cover. Lastly, macOS is much more versatile and intended for productivity, where iOS is not. I'm waiting for the macbook 2019 refresh with Intel Amber Lake. It should be a noticeable bump in battery life and performance under TDP. I expect to keep that mb 12" for a solid 7 years.
@@markm0000 i have 12" macbook and I use it mainly for web browsing. The only problem is it get very hot from the bottom and sometimes loading tabs in chrom is slow, like really slow.
Mufarreh Alshammary don’t use chrome. Always use Safari on a Mac and don’t download more than 5 extensions.
@@markm0000 I use chrome because all my passwords and accounts are saved in it. I use it on my phone, PC, macbook, and iPad. also I have 6 extensions.
Pocket, Kaspersky, Dark reader, instant dictionary, ublock, and discussions add on for Google search.
I wish the pro came in gold too 😒
So:
Macbook, for Students, compact, light
Pro: for Producer, for more graphic work
Melchiore -- or.....if your doing pro stuff get the MacBook PRO....and if your doing regular stuff get the MacBook 😂😂😂
If you're going for the minimum for each model, then yeah, the price is the same so go with the Pro. But if I want a laptop with 500GB of storage (and not planning on doing anything that I'd need the maximum powerful processor for), I'm going for the 500GB model of the Macbook, which is $500 cheaper than the 500GB Macbook Pro here in Canada.
Long story short. If you want looks - go with the 12". If you want power and usability - go with the 13".
Luis Moreno and if you're broke-none
Actually from the others' pod they look the same.
Luis Moreno the 13" looks better
Power in a dual core .... yea no. The 15 with quad core start to get powerful but if you want power forget macbook.
The video is a little over four minutes....that's short!
I can see a lot of software developers buying the MacBook 12". The MBA was extremely popular with software devs then.
Had the mbp & returned it for the MacBook, couldn’t be any happier
However you still pretty much ignored the fact that the base model macbook pro 13' only has 128gb of storage!
which is totally enough for most users, I have the 128gb version and I have installed every app I need and still got about 60gb of free storage! and my apps includes 3 games, office apps, twitch, steam and so on.
I thought he mentioned that
harry bob yeah that's the one thing I'm kinda worried about as I'm considering getting one
Only 38 likes two years later? This guy is on the money. They are NOT the same price. The MacBook 12” was simply the only model that had a base spec of a usable 256 instead of the unusable 128gb. 128 is a joke.
if you are edit many video maybe not enough. but for normal user it is enough
I like this video. Short and to the point. Gives a clear cut reason as to which one is better. SUBSCRIBED
It is not just portability - the MacBook has a much more sophisticated ergonomic wedge-shaped design, whereas the Pro is comparatively backwards with the old-fashioned rectangular shape that is comparatively uncomfortable to rest ones hands on. The interesting review that I look forwards to is comparing the speed of the base 1.2 GHz model to the 1.3 and 1.4 GHz options, and see how those numbers vary. Also, instead of quoting benchmarks, why not conduct some real world timing tests (in seconds).
Colin Rose Rectangle is love. Rectangle is life. Good idea for next time 👍
The MacBook Pro also has tapered edges, just not very noticeable.
WUT? They look exactly the same closed, just one bigger than the other.
Can you please do a video comparing 15 versus 13 inch for the new 2017 MacBook pros?
The MacBook is an awful choice over the MacBook Pro. Not only is the Pro the same price, it is almost better in EVERY OTHER WAY except for the portability.
Also, the Pro is 3 pounds, same as MacBook Air 13 inch. Hardly something that's difficult to carry around.
Kevin yeah I agree only 128 gig of storage is very small if you don't want to pay more than €1500
Kevin the MacBook is overpriced
Just imagine that you are living 3 years in the past. Portability is the same.
um，no moving parts maybe the future
Its Me TBH If I'm spending €1500 for a laptop I'm not going to work of external SSD's, that seems stupid
this is gold for me, i m about to buy my first mac, and i could not decide betwin these 2, thanks man!
mack11 which one are you going to get?
same bout to buy my first one. I'm going with the pro
Wow. My first MacBook is the Early 2015 Air.
lol please tell me you went for the mbp pro?! I bought my first Mac 6days ago and I chose the baseline 13" mbp and didn't even think about the MacBook since it only has one port and too small display and not enough power for me! If I wanted a laptop that can just surf the web, I'd go for something like 300dollar windows laptop. MBP can handle light gaming but the MacBook can't. MBP runs CS:GO at low settings at 100+ fps so its not bad at all.
Good video. I just feel like most of the consumers seriously battling between both of these base model computers are also taking into consideration the storage space of the SSD. The video mentioned it briefly, but more so highlighted the negative aspects of the MacBook vs it's Pro variant. For a basic user that wants the extra storage on the base MacBook Pro, they will have to spend a couple hundred more.
Michael Silverman Anybody who buys this is getting ripped off 200 for 256 400 for 512 and a whopping 800 dollars for for one terabyte that's fucking ridiculous. That's what I hate about apple they take advantage of the consumers they know that's not going to be enough space to do anything on then charge A fortune to upgrade the storage.
Vadim good to hear from you. You did a nice job on this review.
I have a gold 12 inch Macbook. I know the Pro has better performance, but I prefer the look and I am not into video editing or anything that would require me to have the better specs. Plus, the bigger storage is very satisfying, especially if you want to duel boot Windows 10. It's just personal preference, they're both great in their own ways.
I was able to price match at Apple to get $130 off the 12” MacBook, so that made my mind up for me!
this is the perfect review i needed for a long time!!!
thank you!!!
This pretty much answered my MacBook conundrums. I get to decide better with this video. Thank you
You failed to mention the MacBook Pro fans and how they ramp up to 7200 rpm on most simple tasks like Web browsing. The MacBook is a whisper quiet solution with great portability and good performance for day to day use.
I think this is the deciding factor for me. I hate it when my computer gets super loud randomly when I'm not even doing intensive tasks. I want the faster processor, but the size and silentness of 12" seems to be what's better for me.
Thinking the same thing. I'm gonna get the 12" and hope for the best :)
I bought a MacBook. I only use my laptop for iBook Author, Microsoft Word and light web browsing. LOVE IT!
I'm guessing you were comparing base models. I would be highly interested to see how the higher kaby lake processors on the 12" Macbook would fare?
Dax Carson i guess not much better due to thermal throtelling. i tried both in the apple store side by side and found out while exporting 4k testfootage in final cut that the macbook was running from the beginning only in 70-90 percent cpu usage while the pro was continuesly running on 90-100 percent. thatx why the pro was twice as fast in the end. guess its the same for the higher speced models.
128 GB SSD is not enough
with cloud storage in the future this won't be the problem. I have 128gb, i use my older computer to store my movies, and the rest remains pretty light ! But i would agree with you if you wan't to do video editing for instance !
Tried and returned both at the store. The dual cores processors are too slow for a "pro" laptop. The 15 got a proper CPU but I dont like 15" laptop and the prices are stupid. Btw the sound in the 13 may sound fuller and louder, the midranges generate a tiring distortion that make the 12" easier to listen to.
Great comparison, you set the bar for any tech review channel. Don’t stop ever please!
Yay much better than before 👍
Like the improvements. Looking good guys & gals
Guys if you take the Macbook Pro though, don't stick with the base 128gb… that's ridiculously low and you'll regret it. The storage cannot be replaced so you want to be getting at bare minimum 256gb. Also think about when you'll want to sell the device: 128gb in 2022 for example will be out of question.
This is the real rech review I was looking for! Cheers!
This is just what I needed. thank you so much!
What the fuck was Apple thinking 128 gigs is not enough to do shit on a pro machine. There are cell phones with more storage then a 1,299 dollar lap top
I have a late 2013 MacBook Pro and it edits everything and isn't slow at all, benchmarks for the 12" MacBook look pretty similar, don't know why you think it's too slow. Sure the new pro is faster but I doubt the 12" is as slow as you're making it. Portability is a big aspect in the real word.
Can you, please make a video comparing the MacBook Pro 13” with TouchBar with the one without TouchBar? Or at least a TouchBar review. Thank you!
amazing editing, super helpful review. This review was quite literally exactly what I was looking for, since I don't pay more than $1,500 on computers on principle. (a powerful rig could be built for $500-900 easily) Being an on the go audio recorder for many companies, I'm used to having many SD cards and all that what not, so thank you for the easy comparison. definitely helped my decision! Thank you so much!
I would’ve preferred it if the MacBook keyboards weren’t physical keyboards at all like the keyboards on our phones and iPads.
Thanks for the clear and concise information. 👍🏽
Like the video. Thank you! Can you compare both of these when driving the LG 4K Ultrafine display? There is no video on this on YT.
The MacBook Pro is better. The MacBook is a weak-sauce machine.
I really don’t understand why they made the MacBook and the MacBook Pro baseline models the same price. Yes, I know that the MacBook is more portable, but is one inch really that big of a difference? The 13 inch MacBook Pro can still fit in a backpack, and the extra pound will really not be noticeable, so it is still portable. It would have made more sense if the MacBook had a slightly lower price. I mean, the MacBook Pro is better in every way- power, display, screen size.
Thank You. I was almost deciding what would i use for programming, producing music and study. I thought that the macbook was the lightest and had a better battery, but is not the best.
This video is perfect. Thanks a lot.
Max is that your brother? He's talking just the same as you.
hi, im an android developer, im planning to buy a macbook, my target is weight and portability because i always commute in the bus and train, so maybe il take the Macbook 12inch, is the high end of macbook 12inch 1.4ghz i7, 16gb memory is enough for Android Studio? When im at work i always used to have a 10 tab of chrome, 2instance of ANdroid studio, and 1-2 emulator, is it enough for my need?
I really like your video... Is MAcbook pro is good for photo editing inlightroom??
Is 128gb enough for some college work, taking notes and watch some Netflix?
Whaaaa I want a showdown of the air vs MacBook with the breakdown you did here.You ruled out the Air but was the $999 version. But you can upgrade it to a 2.2 Ghz - 3.2 Turbo boost + i7 processor for $150. Still making it $150 less then the MacBook (or $50 more if upgraded to equal SSD memory) I feel that would be a good showdown
exactly what I needed to hear thank you
I'm starting Uni soon and will be doing Photoshop and Illustrator work. Graphic design to be exact. Should I get a MacBook Pro 13 or a Razer Blade Stealth?
I have 2012 15 inch MacBook pro, if I going to get a new MacBook pro in 2018, should I get 15 inch or 13 inch's baseline?
I’m in college and I need a laptop who will be better for making presentations and writing essays. Which one should I get?
Which laptop is the best for a college student ? I thought of taking the mac book touch bar but then I am not sure whether its worth it. Which is the best laptop for college students. Can u recommend !!
Might as well go with the PRO.
Those are the wrong prices, the 2017 MacBook at best buy starts at 1,699 and the 2015 MacBook Pro starts at $1,359. The 2017 MacBook Pro starts at $1,899 Get your pricing right!!
Thanks for this. I’m getting the MBP 13in. 😁
Given that there is no significant difference in price, what should I buy from the two???, I’d be mostly using keynote, pages and other applications needed for college
MBP's are much expensive than the 12-inch Macbook, here in Asia... If that would be the case then I'd definitely choose the Macbook Pro.
Macbook is the only MAC I can afford, and I have the MacBook Pro 2012 model, I bought the new MacBook for its
portability !!
very very very nice presentation ;)
If I were looking for a portable MacBook for digital art what would be the better choice ????12 inch or 13 inch
I still have the mid 2012 MacBook pro with SSD and upgraded Rams... still faster than most newer laptops haha
No way these should be priced the same. Way more value in the Pro.
That's why when you look at the second hand price on eBay, the MacBook 12 depreciates more than the pro.
yea becasue i was going to buy the 12inch but i was like thats stupid to do that when i can get something way more better and the same battery life as well (i wanted the 12inch because i move around a lot. i have an air and the battery sucks so im upgrading will . definitely be buying the pro )
the issue is still ssd space. you should've shown how much a clean boot of MacOS takes up on the SSD. the MacBook has double the storage of the pro.
macOS in itself only takes up max 12GB in my experience though, and honestly with a laptop I only need enough internal storage for all my programs and I store everything else on a regularly backed up external drive...
I know its 1 inch. but does it make a huge difference screen size? can you notice the difference??
If I can buy the Macbook 12" 2017 Modell for $1000 do you guys think it's worth it?
SSDs get faster as their storage sizer increases. a MacBook Pro with 256 GB like the MacBook would have higher drive speeds.
Didn’t know vinny was into tech stuff
Any advice for me? I need a new laptop bad! My old dell is obsolete and weighs a ton. I jus need to download movies, browse the net and write. Not really into web design or any heavy duty stuff. I'm a doctor who's tied up with med exams!!! Sooo can't really game for a year!! I'm considering getting the MacBook for my birthday. Thoughts?
Which one should I get for my 1st ever laptop 2017 MacBook or 2017 MacBook Pro? (Base models)
Ozzi La Flame the video is here to help you choose -____-
Nice video Apple should upgrade or take it out the MacBook Air 💻
2017 17 inch macbook pro vs 15 inch macbook pro
awesome video. thanks it helped
In india the base model 13" macbook pro costs 1625$ and the 12" retina macbook costs 1600$!!!😫😫
nice video review, god job!
omg. The cinebench scores aren't correct. Thats not the single core, thats the multicore. And the MC is the OpenGL score
I'm about to graduate and will proceed to aviation. I'm planning to buy Microsoft Flight Simulator and the no touch bar model might not be strong enough to carry the game. Do you guys recommend the 13" with touch bar?
Is it enough to use Pro with 128 gb of storage? Actually, I need it for studying, probably a bit of casual gaming, nothing more
Such a bad review. Only cause all u reviewers are editing videos... 99% of the guys dont use a laptop for that, i also only cut 2-3 videos a year and a macbook 12 is more than enough powerful for me. Even with a 4 times better gpu they still are both garbage anyway compared to a discret gpu. Sure two USB-C ports might be better for you as a "videocreator", but tell me why should i use these port? I only use it 1 or 2 times a year to copy anything from an usb-stick to my mac, but i really dont know what i should plug in more....
Are you guys related? For half a second I was like "is it a haircut?" lol
I thought they had the same screen
If thier at the same price its worth taking the Macbook Pro
Can I hook a MacBook pro to my elgato hd60s and record gameplay with full quality (1080p60fps) without any lag?
803nigel the real question is why r u gaming on a MacBook
I'm confused. The 12" has shown to handle 4k edits without much of an issue at all.
No they say it's not good for 4K edits, bade model anyway
Wich is older
Macbook air
Macbook
Or macbook pro?
A quick question: if I want to use photoshop, which one would be bette?
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uhmm. Sorry, but you should set brightness by nits level, not percents. Especially when you clearly said before, that macbook pro have way brighter (500 vs 350 nits) display.
In other words: get yourself a luminance meter, that's a must-have for reviewer.
niter43 you're missing the point, friend. An average user isn't going to care about nits. If they want the brightness maxed out, they're gonna mash that button, no matter how much nits their screen gives off
+Vadim Yuryev
Uhm, that's average user problems. It was a test of battery, and devices should have same conditions. People that come for product review is smart enough to set brightness to levels they actually need, not the maximum available to burn eyes and drain battery.
If you still don't agree - bring them to park on sunny day. Macbook 12 gets technical loss with 0 hours of battery due to screen not bright enough for usage, when Pro version is ok. But that's quite stupid because we tried to test battery and not screen, huh?
Great video
If the MacBook had thunderbolt 3 it would seal the deal for me.
Macbook pro 13" 2016 with touchbar and 512gb or Macbook Pro 13" 2017 without touchbar and 256gb? Both the same price. One have the advantage of storage and touchbar and the other has Kaby Lake. Which one?
Alexandru Turcoman I personally would go with the newest one available, based on resale value. There is a higher demand for a one year old device than two or more. Unless you will have a lot of videos or something that takes a lot of space, you should be fine. Otherwise you can get an external drive if you wanted.
Vadim Yuryev Thanks for answering mate. I agree with you. Im pretending to install Windows on it for heavy university programmes and 256gb may be short
Alexandru Turcoman if I was you I would look at your current computers storage usage and after how many years. If you're using more than 256 and don't want to compromise then go with the 512
I was gonna say there's no reason to choose the 12 inch MacBook because you can put a 128gb SD card in the 13 inch MacBook Pro but I forgot.... It's only got the usb c ports 🙈
Does it make sense to pay more?
(256)PRO 2015
vs
(256) 2017 non touch?
-if ports are really important for you (sd card slot usb a etc) the 2015 is a better buy and maybe a bit cheaper
-if the better screen, better speakers and more portability are more important to you, you should buy the 13 inch mbp base 2016/2017 (maybe you get the 2016 model cheaper)
Space grey or gold that’s tough🤔
If they are the same price and the 13 inch is obviously better then why would you get the macbook
Nice succinct comparison
I might add the 16 gb ram on the MacBook 12 inch would this help me I have a lot of RUclips tabs or djing
Well no portability and storage, vs everything else, I'm just not sure whether I need more storage or cpu power 😳😳
John Grimes the Pro is really light still and very portable, not much difference in portability imo.
the pro is 500g heavier, that's nothing. I really don't see any.reason to get a macbook
Matthew Martini yeah my only reasoning behind getting the MacBook is the higher storage capacity on the base model
John Grimes yeah that's fair enough if you really can't stretch beyond the $1299, but if you could stretch your budget to get the 256gb Pro, it'd be way worth it the pro will last you a lot longer. I am in an similar dilemma and even though I love the size of the macbook , the pro is just better in every single way. I went to the electronics store yesterday and picked up both because I really thought I wouldn't be happy with the weight of the pro, and I picked up the pro and it was a breeze to carry. also it might be better if you decide to do more intensive tasks in the future. Haha I've really thought this over alot!
Matthew Martini yeah it's just I'm in Ireland so they're more expensive so they're both at the same price of €1534, or something like that and then the 256GB Pro is €1800 almost I think and I dunno if I can justify spending that, I'm a student and don't even have a car yet 😂😂
John Grimes 😂😂 you could get an Air for half the price and save the rest for a car?
or you could get last year's Pro the 2016 for alot cheaper on Apple refurbished site and still save some money.