I do not know of any that are full TULIP, but there are both strains of both Arminianism and Calvinism depending on the history of the individual preacher's history. This is more evident among the Oneness Pentecostals. I have enjoyed a laugh listening to two different preachers at a conference. One had a Baptist background and the other Methodist, and it could be heard in the subtle stresses that each man put on certain points. Most if not all Oneness Pentecostals would agree with the doctrine of total depravity in that there is nothing we can bring to God that merits our salvation. There would also be agreement that the Spirit is the One that convicts of sin and leads a person to repentance through the preaching and teaching of the Word of God. Individual experiences of what this looks like will vary. The issue of election is rarely if ever addressed directly, this being considered to be the provenance of God. I believe that it might be stated thus, "If you are saved, then you are Elect, if you are not saved, then you are not, for this reason you will hear the call to "make your calling and election sure." Thus we are decidedly not Calvinist. Atonement is for whosoever will receive it. In this regards it is unlimited, anyone may come. However, it is only efficacious for those that do come, and is so limited. To quote from Jesus problem of the marriage supper, "Many are called, but few are chosen." Irresistible grace is not necessarily a doctrine entirely opposed by us, for we know of some who were saved, though they appeared for a long time to resist. But God had given His word that such a person would be saved, and they were. It would be a matter of debate as to whether this was true for all conversions or just singular people. Thus it is often left to individual pastors to believe and teach and is at best a secondary issue among us. Preservation of the saints is not the same as Calvin, though perhaps it is more opposed in the modern "eternal security" of more recent popularity. We do hold that a Christian may backslide and die away from God, in which case they are counted as among the lost. That being said, we do hold that so long as one remains faithful to their profession both verbally and by conduct, one is secure. Thus we are not Calvinist, but I do not see that we are entirely Arminian either.
@Robert Stephenson I am not certain as to your meaning. The Decalogue, to use the ten dollar word, is plain that we are to worship no other God aside from Jehovah/Yaweh, and Deuteronomy 6:4-5, among many others, are explicit that He is the only God. We see no divisions or separations in the nature of God. Therefore we ardently deny the existence of an eternal plurality of persons participating in the Godhead, which I am assuming was the heart of your question. If I was incorrect in my assumptions, please enlighten me so that I may be more accurate.
@Robert Stephenson This is true. Granted, we Oneness Pentecostals do not deny that Jesus Christ is God. But we state with Paul in Colossians 2:9, " For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." And in I Timothy 3:16, "And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up into glory."
@robertstephenson6806 It's not taught since 4th century, but since the very beginning. Read some earliest Church Fathers, who were direct disciples of the Apostles. Christianity doesn't believe in 3 gods. There's only one God for sure. But this God is not confined to a simple, single personality as we are. Don't try to put God in a box. His nature is beyond our comprehension. What we know is that He is a plurality in one. Just check Genesis 1:26 "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness ... Man and woman he created them" - notice the plural form. Human family is the image of God. Genesis 2:24 "The man has now become like one of us" - again the plural. Genesis 3:22 "a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh" - this refers to both their physical and mental unity, but also the fact that they have children who are like them, combining the DNA of both parents, being of the same kind and dignity as they are, yet different. Similarly both the Father, the Holy Spirit and Jesus are One and yet not the same. This is a mystery to us, and rightly so. It would be weird if a Creation could fully comprehend its own Creator. As believers we must be open to mystery, because the whole Christian Faith is soaked in it.
@Robert Stephenson There’s also John 1:1-4 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…” Coupled with John 1:14 “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.” That’s a pretty clear statement. The Word became flesh is obviously referring to Jesus. The Word is also both God and with God. Hence Jesus is God, even though we mere humans have a limited intellect and have a hard time understanding how.
Thank you Joshua, I am from Church of God in Christ. I still have many many friends in that faith. On my Dad's side they are Oneness Pentecostals. God bless! ❤❤
When exercising, I typically watch your videos as well as those from my RC church. Two months ago RUclips put Friday and Saturday services from New Yorks Central Synagogue in my feed. I was amazed at the difference. Their (reformed) service is very social, warm and friendly while ours is “sit down, shut up and be reverent”. The Bat and Bar Mitzvahs are something to watch as kids take on the responsibilities of Jewish adults. This might be a good topic for you to explore.
A friend of mine took me to a women’s retreat that turned out to be Independent Pentecostal, with lots of speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues isn’t a gift of mine, but SINGING is something I do easily. It’s a left-brain right-brain thing, sort of like country singer Mel Tillis except that I don’t stutter. (Mel Tillis sang like an angel but he had a horrible stutter when he spoke.) My friend hadn’t been taught about singing in tongues (1 COR 14:15 and other verses: I will pray with the spirit… I will sing with the spirit.) I also discovered that I have the gift of interpretation when I hear someone speaking in an unfamiliar language. Interpretation is a gift I’ve used both in a religious setting (where it was validated by others in the group) and in a secular setting where I can assist people who don’t speak English. During the retreat we were all asked to stand together and pray in tongues. My Independent Pentecostal friend had a hard time accepting that I had the gifts of singing in tongues and of interpreting, but not the gift of speaking in tongues. I tried instructing her from the Bible. But since her pastors had harped so heavily on speaking in tongues as the most important gift (which is NOT biblical) she found my singing disruptive and went elsewhere to pray. Side note: I was taught Catholic Greek and Latin prayers as a child. (Yes, I am that old.) At this retreat we were sent to small groups with leaders who tried to get us to “release” the gift of speaking in tongues. After I got thoroughly frustrated with their efforts I recalled those old Catholic prayers, recited a couple of them, and was widely praised for finally letting the gift of speaking in tongues manifest itself. I thought it was funny that, with all their emphasis on bible study using ancient biblical languages, nobody recognized spoken Greek and Latin. Not even Kyrie Eleison - Christe Eleison which is often used in popular music and in movies.
@@paulread7113 I said interpretation, not translation. There’s a big difference. And no, I won’t go find someone who doesn’t speak English so that I can make a RUclips video for your amusement.
@@nan7861 So basically you can do the supernatural which would change the opinions of everyone in the world, but you don't want to film it. Yeah right pull the other one 😂
I was raised Pentecostal but became an Episcopalian as an adult. In fact, I'm ordained in the Episcopal Church. This is a very good survey of the movement
Growing up Pentecostal, all the churches ive been to have yearly or biyearly missionary trips where random volunteers, often 16-25 year olds, from the church would go to Africa or a latin American country for about two weeks for a missionary trip. Many churches even worked together to setup permanent churches in africa.
Great unbiased video. I was saved in a Pentecostal church, was later baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues in 1971 and still speak in prayer. Baptism in water came a couple of years later as an act of personal obedience. One point, John Wesley believed in experiencing a personal Pentecost.
What do you people mean when you say you were saved? Are you referring to the time you became a believer? Are you referring to when you first had a spark of interest in spiritual things?
@@bobbycecere1037 Thanks for the question. I mean the instant that I accepted Jesus as my personal savior and experienced a changed life. Before that point in time I h ad always believed in God, but not unto salvation. So just having an interest in spiritual things or being religious is not the same thing.
@Uthyr Greywick Soooooo, You're saying that simply coming to believe in the christ as a savior Now protects you from your own choices?? If you decided to abandon christian morals today and go live a life at odds with the inspired word, Are you still saved?
@@bobbycecere1037 I didn't say that, I'm not a Calvinist. All believers have need of repentance from time to time, but Hebrews 5:4-6 lays your question to rest.
I love these videos. Information on the different denominations is really fascinating. In my spiritual life I've bounced around a lot, baptized and raised methodist, was agnostic for about 10 years, then I came to believe in God and then christ all on my own, started church hopping and trusted the holy spirit to guide me into truth and out of error. First I went non denom for about 6 months, then to a gay affirming church, for one blasphemous service, then to a money hungry Baptist church for a service, then I landed in with jehovahs witnesses for 9 months till I realized the truth about the new world translation, then I discovered apologetics went to pentacostals for 6 months till I was pressured to have some experience in front of everyone and i felt nothing. Their eschatology was crazy too i eventually became convinced of calvinism and became a Presbyterian for 10 years. That whole time, I still didn't have the best grasp of reformed theology. Some doctrines just didn't line up with scripture. I had a pretty powerful experience one day when things were really rough and I thought I would lose my wife and kids and I prayed to God to help me fix this. Show me where I went wrong, show me what the right path is. Anyway after a dream about a catholic priest I sort felt confused. I was a pretty staunch anti catholic... there's no way they're the right church... I started looking into the apologetics and debates fully expecting the catholics to get crushed by it seemed like they had an answer for everything and 75% of what I was told catholics believe was a complete lie. I could write a book of all the things I was wrong about when it it came to what I was told they believe. What other church is so brazenly misrepresented? Anyway that was over a year ago and I was just confirmed catholic this easter I've never felt more satisfied with scripture, more loved by my congregation, and closer to Christ. I feel like he's really there and when I bow it's because I'm in the presence of christ. When the priest absolves me of my sin I truly feel forgiven. The state of grace feels much better than having good reason to assume you're elect.
As a very introverted person, I found it incredibly awkward when I visited a Novus Ordo Mass and unexpectedly in the middle we were told to greet all of our neighbors. During subsequent visits it was fine but that first time I wanted to sink into the floor. I'm trying to imagine being pressured to "speak in tongues" in front of everyone and I just can't wrap my head around it. I would probably run out the door and never go back!
@@NMemone Yeah I love mass, I thought the sign of peace moment was nice. It's like silently waving at people. What really really embarrassed me was the first "our father" I said there! In every protestant church I ever went to, the prayer finishes and the benediction starts as if it's part of the prayer. So everyone stops talking at evil but there I am loud as anything saying " FOR THE P...." everyone looked at me it was so so so embarrassing! I went home and looked up the prayer in Matthew. It does stop at evil! Totally through me for a loop and hasn't happened since. You have the prayers at mass memorized yet? I have em all except Gloria, I still get mixed up in the middle sometimes and have to refer to the missalette.
When I came into relationship with the the LORD, it was under the influence of Vineyard/ Calvary Chapel / AOG, it was there that I received teaching on the Holy Spirit, and received that gift spiritual tounges
As a Pentecostal, this was an accurate portrayal. I have watched several of your videos and have no idea your denomination. That means you must be doing a great job of unbiased presentation.
I’m Texan, and another large Pentecostal denomination is Full Gospel Holy Temple. They’re Trinitarian, and very similar to COGIC when it comes to rules and rituals. When I visited a FGHT, the women had long hair, also wore hats (unless they were in the choir), and no makeup, earrings, and only skirts or dresses. I have also attended an Assembly of God church, where the pastor openly preached that if we didn’t speak in tongues, we weren’t truly saved. That was enough to turn me away. I will stay traditional Baptist because of men like him. I’ve noticed that there are so many facets of Pentecostalism that have them splitting into multiple denominations. It’s definitely confusing, especially if the church doesn’t outright say what kind of denomination it is. I prefer churches use denominational titles so I don’t get confused. Side note: I graduated from a defunct, very liberal UMC college in 2009 and didn’t notice anything about their doctrine as being Pentecostal rooted. I noticed it was more liturgical like the Episcopalians and Presbyterians.
I am surprised an Assembly of God pastor would take that position. But there are extremists in any group. I attended an AOG church in my 20s. I am 50 now.
It is amazing how many different sects came out of one simple truth in Acts. Jesus arose and stuck around for many to see. Then the Upper Room apostles and disciples experienced the Pentacost. My head spins when I try to learn more. Yet thank you and bless you for this that helps me to learn more.
One thing to take into consideration whether Pentecostals can drink alcohol. They can but most denominations have rules about people serving in ministry. This is because while Pentecostalism came onto the modern stage in the early 1900's, the official denominations that started in the 1920's wanted to make sure they were following the law and prohibition was still a law on the books. When the 18th amendment was repealed the denominations did not take the rule off the books.
Very nice video. I grew up Trinitarian Pentecostal (Church of God in Christ "aka" COGIC) and I affirm your answers as correct. African American Pentecostals generally do not like to identified as "conservative or evangelical" because of racial and political associations with these terms. However, undoubtedly, they are evangelical in their biblical interpretation and worldview. COGIC believes that salvation is obtained at the moment of repenting of sin, placing and professing faith in Jesus Christ as the son of God. From there a believer will receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the "initial" evidence of speaking in tongues. This may be given to all believers who earnestly seek after and ask for it. After the initial "filling" the subsequent frequency of speaking in tongues is solely at the will of the Holy Spirit, some Pentecostals speak in tongues frequently, while others do not. Water Baptism may take place at any time after the conversion experience and is not a requirement of church membership or salvation, but rather symbolic in nature. COGIC does not believe in infant baptism, but does practice "dedication" of infants to God, which is also a ceremonial and symbolic experience. Most still churches that I have been a part of adhere to teetotalism as official doctrine, but some are beginning to leave the choice to the members to consume alcohol privately and within moderation. This shift is attributed to Millennials and Gen Z who tend to favor more relaxed viewpoints regarding alcohol consumption, music, dress, tattoos and woman in ministry. The overwhelming majority of Pentecostals do believe that sexual activity is to be reserved for a monogamous heterosexual marriage; however, there is a minute, but growing number of LGBTQ affirming congregations. There also a small number who view marriage as commencing when two individuals profess their lifelong commitment to each other as opposed to a ceremony officiated by licensed clergy - this view is extremely rare, but it does exist. Last, most Pentecostals churches that I have been a part of are staunchly against O.S.A.S. and believe that can "backslide" and loose their salvation if they no longer adhere to the tenants of the faith. I cant say that all share this belief.
In my 55 years as a born-again believer and autodidact student of theology and church history, the most powerful and concise refutation of Pentecostal/charismatic errors was THE LINE DRAWN written by Miles J. Stanford (1919-1999).
I was raised in the Pentecostal Movement in Norway, and even though I now attend the Norwegian Missions Church, most closely relates to The Evangelical Free Church of America and the Evangelical Covenant Church, I really appreciate your thorough and unbiased look at Pentecostalism.
More of a coincidence. I moved to a new area, and the pentecostal church there is one of the largest in Norway (around 800 members) and I wanted a smaller amd more intimate church, and this was the closest church to where I live, apart from the lutheran Church of Norway (which is really liberal). I are still on board with pentecostal theology for the most part, and doesn't really experience all that much of a difference, apart from the fact that they accept both believer's baptism and infant baptism, since the church I attend is quite charismatic.
There are so many Pentecostal and Neo-Pentecostal churches popping up everywhere (though most hide their affiliation and use “cool” names) I would love a video on them.
@@jamesreed5678 oh absolutely. It drives me crazy that you have have to guess their affiliation or do a deep dive into their website to find out (and in most cases it’s not even there). What I was referring to is my interest in a video about all these new churches with cool names, husband and wife co-pastors, etc; most of which, for whatever reason, seem to be pentecostal or neo-pentecostal. Why are so many people attracted to these churches?
@@csg9095 Pastors at Pentecostal churches teach whatever they think people most want to hear. You can be healthy, rich, and not die (faith healing, prosperity gospel, rapture)! A big chunk of the Bible is about events happening today (dispensationalism)! You too can speak foreign languages without being taught (tongues)! And, "Epicenter" is much cooler than "Calvary Assembly of God."
Very informative! The "in the name of Jesus" baptism formula is not entirely peculiar to Oneness circles. I've seen it used among some Trinitarian charismatics. That baptism formula is mentioned in the Book of Acts. On the "Fundamentalist" question, I chuckled and agreed with your comment that "Fundamentalist" is vaguely used in the US. On almost all or all doctrinal points originally stated as "fundamental" by the original Fundamentalists, Pentecostals are in agreement. But in the US, "Fundamentalist" often is used by liberals as an epithet meaning "theologically conservative Christians I disagree with". Re doctors, back in the early 70s I did hear one or two radio preachers (R. W. Schambach being one, and maybe Jimmy Swaggart) speak of going to doctors as weak faith, but even then they were not mainstream.
The Assemblies of God, Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, and Church of God (Cleveland, TN) all had official statements that articulated the Fundementalist position a number of years before the Fundementalists began to unite against the Modernist doctrines. At its inseption, the UPCI embraced a Fundamentalist position on most positions, and those that disagreed kept silent or left. Sadly it has moved slightly in away from its original core issues, but the average member would likely still qualify as being of a Fundementalist persuasion.
Raised CRC but during covid the local Pentecostal church was the only one open so my wife and i have gone there the past 3 years and it is growing like crazy from what was a small size before covid.
There is a pentecostal denomination here in Brazil (which also exists in the US) called Christian Congregation which baptizes with the formula: In the name of Jesus (I) baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. And I find it very strange why they mention Jesus twice and omit the pronoun "I".... (In Portuguese there is no problem omitting it)
Another informative video. I like your collaboration with Matt, you both bring slightly different things to the table that makes for a more complete picture, thx
Thank you so much for your unbiased sharing of information. As a Pentecostal myself (AG) I'm growing more curious about its Holiness origins. Glad to see Matt Baker undertaking a project that could cover that, but wondering if you'll make a video on the Holiness Movement sometime in the future? Thanks for all you do, God Bless
Thank you for a great video. I always thought that Pentecostals were closest to Baptist but was surprised to learn they derived from Methodists. Thank you again.
I've attended a trinitarian Pentecostal church for nearly 20 years. It's clear to me that the emphasis on tongues and healing has really cooled down over time. I think it's rare to find anyone who still believes in speaking in tongues and healing. That's because, eventually, we all realise that no one gets healed and tongue speaking is not the same as in Acts 2. My Pentecostal church has become mainstream. There's nothing weird happening in Sunday services, if you know what I mean.
Some, if not most, Pentecostal Churches are becoming Charismatic at best to not say Evangelical or Mainstream. Let a Pastor in modern street clothes to enter the main stage with a heavy metal or pop rock praise band behind them to lead such a 90 minutes "meeting" Sunday morning Service of sorts with such a Biblical literal inerrant Preaching, mostly GOP leaning, and that's it. Born myself on Roman Catholic Charismatic Renewal I know what the movement is about. On the last 50 years medicine has done wonders. Today, even some severe conditions like Alzheimer or Parkinson do have some resilience measures that make those individuals suffering from it to have a better life. Cancer is being defeated each time more. For those body cure purposes nobody will call the Priest or the Pastor anymore for healing. Speaking in tongues and the likes are also becoming relics of a past era when information was scarce elsewhere. There are still some sects like the Brazilian "Universal Church of the Kingdom of God" (UCKG) whom will continue exploring some of those still more fragile to engage on said practices and theologies, but those Churches are quickly going away here in the first world. UCKG remains still among the 10 largest here in Portugal, but far from the clear number 2 they were some 25 years ago and their members are now mainly Brazilian expats living here. A huge decline, helped by their criminal scandals and the huge development on our society. Happiness on the celebrations is great and I praise the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement to have remembered all of us for it... But I've left myself the movement. Simply our Faith should to be something far larger and far deeper than that. It has its limits. One enjoys the style for a while, but once one grows a bit more, one desires a little bit more. I'm OK with modern music, but not so much of the Pentecostal/Charismatic exaggeration anymore.
@@LangThoughts most pentecostals are premillennials and dispensationalists. After the fullness of Gentiles's salvation ends then God will deal with Israel. He'll save them.
*are Pentecostals Arminian Most in the US are Arminian, but this is not the case in the UK. If you read Jonathan Black’s Apostolic Theology (the Apostolic Church being a Pentecostal denomination in the UK and other parts of the world) you’ll see emphasis on the Doctrines of Grace. This is because British Pentecostalism was heavily influenced by the Welsh Revival, which started among the Calvinistic Wesleyans.
I grew up in the Pentecostal church, but I never fully identified with it because I could never speak in tongues, though I desired to and tried. When I got older, I did some more research on the early church and what the Fathers believed and practiced. As I compared it to what I was taught and believed, I noticed significant differences. I became convinced that their understanding of scripture is likely correct over the modern interpretation of scripture that I had been taught as they are closer to the apostles in time and a few were even taught by the apostles themselves. I spent a lot of time looking into what different denominations teach today and it became evident that the Lutheran Church holds closest to the historic Christian faith as expounded in the Bible and supported by the early church fathers.
Lutheran church came about the 1500s during protestant reformation. Luther even wanted to ban books such as James as it was against his idea of faith alone. Only churches that are close to church father teachings are the oriental orthodox church, church of the east, eastern orthodox and the catholic church.
@@josephjacob3274 It's an easily disprovable myth that Lutheranism was a new religion that came about in 1500s. Everything that Lutherans believe, as expounded in the Lutheran Confessions, are not only based in scripture, but are supported by the writings of the early church fathers. If you take a look at the Lutheran Confessions, the Early Church fathers are referenced and quoted in every confessional document. Nothing Luther taught was a new idea. He was going back to the teachings of the early church as Rome had strayed. Lutheran identity is that we are the Western Catholic church cleansed by the Gospel. We are the continuation of the one, Holy, catholic, and apostolic church, as everything we believe is in line with the early church. Though Martin Luther was openly critical of the book of James, he never proposed to remove it from scripture. He even said this about the book: “Though this epistle of St. James was rejected by the ancients, I praise it and consider it a good book, because it sets up no doctrines of men but vigorously promulgates the law of God.” Justification being by faith through grace not works is repeated throughout scripture. However, there is no such thing as faith without works, but your works are not what saves you, they are evidence of your faith. This has been believed by numerous church fathers as well like St. Clement of Rome, St. Ignatius, St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, and many more. If you think your works help you earn your salvation, you are saying that Christ’s sacrifice was not sufficient. Although the “Orthodox” and Roman Catholic churches were structurally established earlier on, it does not at all mean that their teachings are closer to the teachings of the early church. The Eastern Orthodox church follows new teachings from theologians well into the 12th century if not later. The Roman Catholic church innovates doctrine and practice that never existed every few hundred years. Doctrines like Indulgences, Communion of one kind, the treasury of merit, Purgatory, Papal infallibility have no root in scripture, nor in the writing of the early church fathers. Most of them were created in the latter half of the Middle Ages. Everything the Lutheran Church teaches is found in the Early Church. The Roman Catholic church and Eastern Orthodox church, on the other hand, cannot say the same.
@Nonz The Catholic Church has never taught such a doctrine and, in fact, has constantly condemned the notion that men can earn or merit salvation. Catholic soteriology (salvation theology) is rooted in apostolic Tradition and Scripture and says that it is only by God’s grace-completely unmerited by works-that one is saved. The Church teaches that it’s God’s grace from beginning to end which justifies, sanctifies, and saves us. As Paul explains in Philippians 2:13, “God is the one, who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work.” Notice that Paul’s words presuppose that the faithful Christian is not just desiring to be righteous, but is actively working toward it. This is the second half of the justification equation, and Protestants either miss or ignore it. James 2:17 reminds us that “faith of itself, if it does not have work, is dead.” In verse 24 James says, “See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” And later: “For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead” (2:26). The Council of Trent harmonizes the necessity of grace and works: “If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1). The Council fathers continued by saying, “If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema” (Session 6: can. 9). By the way, “let him be anathema” means “let him be excommunicated,” not “let him be cursed to hell.” The phrase was used in conciliar documents in a technical, theological sense, not in the same sense as the word “anathema” is found in Scripture. Don’t let “Bible Christians” throw you for a loop on this one. So, far from teaching a doctrine of “works righteousness” (that would be Pelagianism, which was condemned at the Council of Carthage in A.D. 418), the Catholic Church teaches the true, biblical doctrine of justification.
@Nonz The infallibility of the Church in general-and the pope in particular-is not a doctrine that suddenly appeared in Church teaching; rather, it is a doctrine that was affirmed in various ways in the early Church, beginning with our Lord Jesus Christ’s words to the first pope, the Apostle St. Peter, and also to the apostles in general. For example, Jesus instructed his apostles to preach everything he taught (Matt. 28:19-20) and promised them the protection of the Holy Spirit to “guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13), and that includes a greater understanding of the Pope’s infallibility over time. God’s truth doesn’t change, but our human apprehension of that truth in the Church can increase over time. In addition, Jesus prays that his disciples, the Church, “be one,” as he and the other Father “are one” (John 17:20-23). That would require that Peter and his papal successors be infallible, as the visible and supreme leaders of the Church of earth, as the ones who uniquely hold “the keys of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 16:19), so that they can preserve God’s unifying truth, lest the sheep be scattered through error. In addition, the doctrine of infallibility is implied in these texts about St. Peter and his Petrine successors: Matthew 16:18-19 (“You are Peter . . . “); Luke 22:32 (“I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. . .”); and John 21:15-17 (“Feed my sheep . . . “). Peter’s God-given mandate, and Christ’s related promises, guarantee that the Church will never fall away from his teachings (Matt. 16:18; 1 Tim. 3:15), even if individual Catholics might. As Christians began to more clearly understand the teaching authority of the Church and of the primacy of the pope, they developed a clearer understanding of the pope’s infallibility. For example, in the late second century, in his magnum opus Against the Heresies, St. Irenaeus of Lyons, writes of the Church of Rome, over which Peter and his papal successors preside, With that church, because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition ((Against Heresies 3:3:2 [A.D. 189]). In 251, St. Cyprian of Carthage, writes: If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church? (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]). Further, in the fifth century, St. Augustine succinctly captured the ancient attitude when he remarked, “Rome has spoken; the case is concluded” (Sermons 131, 10).
@Nonz also, sola scriptura is highly flawed. Martin Luther even admitted this as it will cause disunity in groups. Hence, why we have over 44 thousand denominations.
He is a fascinating individual, and his church would be labeled a Oneness Pentecostal organization, though he adamantly denies this association as most Oneness Pentecostal organizations allow for women preachers, though rarely pastors.
Please do a video explaining the differences and similarities between Pentecostals, Charismatics, and neo-Pentecostals. PS found your channel because of this collab with UsefulCharts. I found this video to be very unbiased and truthful. Thank you so much. I also love the autocomplete format.
I don't know if there's anybody that's more knowledgeable about religions and Christian denominations than this guy. If one exists he's not on RUclips..
I'm a Christian and pentecostal in theology. Good job. There are charismatics in the Roman Catholic Church, notably John Michael Talbot. He is Francescan and has lovely music here on RUclips. Arksnsas USA.
There is a Welsh Pentecostal denomination called the Apostolic Church, born out of the 1904 Revival. The Apostolic Church in Wales is Trinitarianism and unaffiliated with the American Oneness Apostolic Church. The Apostolic Church is probably the biggest denomination to come out of the 1904 Revival, but the other big one is Elim. I spent a portion of my childhood in an Apostolic Church. I don't remember hearing tongues much, if at all, and there was a guy who was the prophet for the church. It he thought he had received a prophecy, he would take it to the leadership who would then have him share it with the church. There was no random standing up and sharing prophecies on a whim as most Pentecostals do. I'd actually be really interested to see a comparison between Welsh Pentecostals that came out of the 1904 Welsh Revival, and classic Pentecostals that came out of the 1906 Azusa Street Revival.
I once was invited to the baptism of a friend (girl) , they gave her adult baptism by imersion, after that (she was lifted up) if I remember corectley, the dominee (revenant) prayed in the ununderstandable language version of speaking in tongues (glossolalie). ,there service was with halleluja songs and , people prayed and believed God gave them pophecies or visions, un orderley, there was a cell group where they teach the youth (I was one at the time,cause I began to join that church while searching a church after being born again) their teachings. The name of the church was philadelphia gemeente (gemeente = fellowship)it was in a dutch city.
I was raised in a church that was charismatic, had Calvinistic soteriology, modesty standards, practiced exclusive faith healing, and was fundamentalist regarding Scripture and positions of church authority. Now I'm classically Reformed.
Brother, would you be ok if I translated your video and posted it? I've left a pentecostal church, a very big one, not the assemblies of God, and the information you put forward would really be helpful
I still have no clue how my Sunday school teacher started on David and Goliath and ended the lesson on the latter day reign of jesus... I have no clue when we made the jump... But i stayed very interested in the lessons... It was young adults class
I became Pentecostal/Charismatic through a Catholic Charismatic Conference way back in 1989. I no longer am Catholic, but yes there are non-protestant Charismatic/pentecostal people and groups.
Yes, there are. Roman Catholic Charismatic Renewal as the best example. I was born on one of their Parishes at the time. I left the charismatic world eventually at more or less 30 when I found that my Catholic Faith was larger than a single aspect of it. Charismatics are a part of the Church. Sadly some assume they're the full thing for themselves. I'm now such a rural area regular Catholic, but there is a lesson I had for life from the charismatics: Be always happy, even within the Eucharist Celebration. Christ came to save us all. We must be happy for that!... Why on earth some Masses feel like if we were on a funeral service?...
Some of my family from my wife's side is pentecostal. A lot of these people don't allow allow their kids to go to school. This is like a lot of people in that side of the family. What's the deal with that? For my entire family I can't find an actual answer of why? I've seen this to be a big problem. A lot of the family members are just uneducated and kind of dumb too. I don't want to sound mean but it's kind of true. And it's all because of their religious practice. I have no idea why. Does anyone have an answer or might know why?
From studying Oneness Pentecostal Literature, it seems that they believe that water baptism is a physical/spiritual conduit of how the Blood of Christ can become efficacious to the soul . 'Church of Christ' believes on similar lines. Catholics and Lutherans believe that the Mass/ Communion / Lord Supper are also conduits of the Blood of Christ. They fail to believe that FAITH in the Blood of Christ secures Salvation in a one time act of FAITH. Romans 3:25-26 Sadly, like most in modern Christendom, they fail to distinguish the ACT of receiving Salvation ( Moment in Time ) to that of Sanctification and Discipleship which are life long process AFTER Salvation
7:21 Are Pentecostals Protestant? An interesting question, and one I'm reluctant to say yes to. The underlying question is "what makes a denomination Protestant?" to which the most concrete answer I think would be that they ascribe to the principle of sola scriptura. As in Pentecostalism and Charismatic denominations usually seems to be the case, the personal experience is at a greater authority than the scriptures. This leads to biblically unbiased doctrines on tongues, holy spirit baptism, grave soaking, etc. I would argue this makes a hard break with what is definitional to the Protestant reformation, hence not being Protestant.
There are Catholic pentecostals. I was one, but left the Catholic church very soon after. Just like any kind of church many stick with scripture and many do not. I know of many Charismatic and pentecostal churches that are strongly based on God's word. But there also some who are weak in that.
@@Steve-L I think you mean Charismatic Catholics, yes I'm aware. However, the whole reformation was about the issue of Tradition versus Sola Scriptura. So both (Roman) Catholicism and Pentecostalism in my view distance themselves from Sola Scriptura, one for Tradition, the other for experience. My question still stands, should we identify Pentecostalism as another main tier in Christianity as they seem to part ways from *the* defining aspect of what makes a protestant Protestant?
How does one describe the Christians at Pentecost, “drunk” rather full of faith and the Holy Spirit. Supernatural speaking by being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Why is the Trinity considered monotheistic? Many pagan religions believed in one main deity with lesser deities and they are polytheistic. The 3 in one are equal and angels are lesser deities along with satan and demons being deities?.
Because they are not different entities. They are one being. Also, angels are supernatural spirits, but they are not deities unless you are using a different definition of deities than is normally employed. How do you define "deity"
Abraham did not go to church, he was not baptised in water, he had no Bible, he had no liturgy, he was not institutionalised. Yet he is saved. His life exemplifies true salvation, and that is to hear God, trust Him and walk in obedience. That leads to salvation. Eternal life is to know God personally (John 17: 3). It is quite simple really.
Your ignorance is overwhelming as Abraham was in a different Covenant and Jesus Atonement reached back and saved the people in the upper chamber of Abraham's Bosom as the story of the rich man and The other Lazarus explains . Try reading the whole ch . of John 17 it obviously isn't saying what you implied by your erroneous proof text verse.
@@davidjanbaz7728 Yet God changed His name to be known as the 'Lord God of Abram.' He then took an H out of His name and put it into Abram's name. Now that is what I call relationship. In the end I do not care much for theology, though have a degree in it. I rejoice as I know God Himself. God is not religious, He is not a theologian, He is life. The greatest of all theologians is the devil.
Abraham and Moses were known as friends of God. The rest of us have to go through the line, lol I agree with you, I was just making a joke. 65 million Christians go to the church not built by human hands, and more are added every day.
@@malcolmabram2957 you seem confused so your incoherent theology has warped your brain. Jesus said he was the" I am" of YHWH and Thomas said To Jesus: the LORD of me and the God of me . Jesus also said Moses wrote about him. Stay ignorant if you wish !
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I don't think I could ever get into the Pentecostal church. The speaking in tongues part is actually the biggest deal breaker as I already know I could never get into it and according to people that used to go to the church they say it was very important.
I felt the same way as you until one day, praying fervently, it happened to me. I wasn't planning on it, or expect it. It just happened. After that, it became second nature. One way to think of speaking in tongues is that you are uttering something there are no words for in ordinary language, a sense of God so profound, you are speaking the unspeakable. It can be a truly liberating experience. I respect your view though.
I'm in one. It's very, VERY important. Unbiblically important. My church believes it's a divine, personal language that can be practiced, they all speak at once and sometimes while up on the mic, there's no interpretation not waiting their turn. Basically how it was said in the video.
Thank God that I received the Holy Ghost like the Bible says, and was baptized correctly in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of my sins. (Acts 10:44-48),(Acts 2:37-38).
It's language, not a magical incantation. "Speaking in languages" or "Speaking with languages" are both fine. Even the KJV says "Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak *in* our tongues the wonderful works of God" (Acts 2:11)
People who believe there is 3 separate gods and 3 persons shouldn’t be considered Christian because none of those terms are used in the bible, its catholic man made dogma. Neither is the word Trinity found in the bible...God was manifested in the flesh. 1 Tim 3:16 The first commandment says there’s only one God not 3 Gods. Go study isa 9:6 explains Jesus. The oneness people have it right One Lord one faith one baptism
@@JWatts-gc4zw They also baptize wrong. Sprinkling, pouring water and title words father son and holy spirit is incorrect. Complete water immersion is the only way people were baptized in the New T . and in The Name of Jesus Christ was pronounced over them . Acts 2:38 Trinitarians have catholic roots. Catholics are not Christians.
Whrn i was growing up and spending time in the summer in west Virginia i and my sister and brother jad to attend my mom childhood church witch is the church of God in Christ and they would tell you that you are not born again unless you speak in tongues and I never saw communion taken or water baptism done at her childhood church of god in Christ church in west Virginia and they was kjv only pentecostals don't celebrate Halloween like baptist do 8:48
I thought all Christian groups who were not Catholic were protestant. Also, Why do some say I am not Christian I am Baptist. I said if you follow Christ you are Christian.
christianity is divided into 3 major denominations: catholicism, orthodoxy, and protestantism. catholicism and orthodoxy split from each other in 1054, regarding an addition to the nicene creed called the filioque, which said that the Holy Spirit came from the Father and the Son. orthodoxy do not believe in the filioque and are mostly in the eastern hemisphere, and their churches are based off of ethnic groups (greek orthodox church, russian orthodox church, etc). protestantism came about in the 1500s, when martin luther wanted to reform the church after he saw issues with the catholics, especially regarding interpretation and the papacy
I'm a trinitarian Pentecostal, however, not speaking in tongues doesn't mean you're not saved. Paul didn't say everyone must speak in tongues, he said he wishes. That means not all could. I love my walk with the Holy Spirit 🙂
On "Are Pentecostals Protestants?", the better answer is "not exclusively," since the experience and the theology are not limited to Protestants. There is, for example, a sect within the Roman Catholic Church is considered Pentecostal and adherents are known as "Charismatic Catholics."
Paul discourages speaking in tongues unless there is someone to interpret. But my experience is that Pentecostal services are full of incoherent babbling - it's honestly a bit creepy.
There are 2 kinds of tongues, one is a message and should be done alone, but there also is a prayer tongue which many can do at the same time. this video spoke about that. But not knowing about the details can be confusing.
I've always found the "Oneness" theology pretty hilarious. It takes a lot of arrogance to believe literally 99% of all Christians understood the nature of God wrongly for countless ages, and only your small subsection of a single protestant denomination gets it. Especially considering they're not actually even unitarians, as Joshua rightfully pointed out. They believe Jesus is THE God. So is the Father. So is the Holy Spirit. They are effectively trinitarians, who just can't quite put together how do all of the theological facts fit together. Listening to them trying to explain their own view on this is a hobby of mine. It's like they are just personally offended by trinitarianism so they will never admit it, but they basically repeat all individual truths after it anyway. It's so confusing and funny. I guesssome people just need to feel special!
I was told that their belief is called Modelism. That God was just acting in a different mode, and only perceived as 3. It almost made sense, but I'm still a Trinatarian Pentecostal.
@@padillas4357 I know it's called modalism, but no, it really does make zero sense to me. Hearing a oneness pastor explaining verses when all Persons are mentioned or seen at the same time (Baptism of Jesus, greetings of Paul, formula of baptism etc) is straight comical. For example, Holy Spirit is a mode of God that "acts". But in the baptism, the Father SPEAKS. He entitles Jesus, calls him his son. That is definitely acting by every meaning of the word. Not only that, but at the very same time, Holy Spirit descends and acts separately, taking a separate form of a dove. Modalism is clueless, it's Sabellianism (ancient heresy), on steroids. And let's not even mention Oneness Pentacastals trying to explain Jesus praying to himself. Absolutely hilarious. You can see that so many times they just want to acknowledge that the persons of the trinity are seperate, distinct in many ways, but they just can't bring themselves to do it, so they end up talking nonsense in circles.
Why do Americans keep building new Christian churches? ¿Are pastors tired of being Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, etc.? And I desire to preach differently. Apparently, in fifty years, there are going to be twenty-five Protestant churches.
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As a Christian with pentecostal roots (not oneness, but trinitarian) I appreciate your unbiased knowledge. Thanks.
Why are Pentacostals commiting a ʜostɨle ɪnⱱasɨon of ɪsɾael?
Growing up, I was mostly in pentecostal churches. Generally they can span quite the realm of theology, granted I've never met a Calvinist pentecostal.
I do not know of any that are full TULIP, but there are both strains of both Arminianism and Calvinism depending on the history of the individual preacher's history. This is more evident among the Oneness Pentecostals. I have enjoyed a laugh listening to two different preachers at a conference. One had a Baptist background and the other Methodist, and it could be heard in the subtle stresses that each man put on certain points.
Most if not all Oneness Pentecostals would agree with the doctrine of total depravity in that there is nothing we can bring to God that merits our salvation. There would also be agreement that the Spirit is the One that convicts of sin and leads a person to repentance through the preaching and teaching of the Word of God. Individual experiences of what this looks like will vary.
The issue of election is rarely if ever addressed directly, this being considered to be the provenance of God. I believe that it might be stated thus, "If you are saved, then you are Elect, if you are not saved, then you are not, for this reason you will hear the call to "make your calling and election sure." Thus we are decidedly not Calvinist.
Atonement is for whosoever will receive it. In this regards it is unlimited, anyone may come. However, it is only efficacious for those that do come, and is so limited. To quote from Jesus problem of the marriage supper, "Many are called, but few are chosen."
Irresistible grace is not necessarily a doctrine entirely opposed by us, for we know of some who were saved, though they appeared for a long time to resist. But God had given His word that such a person would be saved, and they were. It would be a matter of debate as to whether this was true for all conversions or just singular people. Thus it is often left to individual pastors to believe and teach and is at best a secondary issue among us.
Preservation of the saints is not the same as Calvin, though perhaps it is more opposed in the modern "eternal security" of more recent popularity. We do hold that a Christian may backslide and die away from God, in which case they are counted as among the lost. That being said, we do hold that so long as one remains faithful to their profession both verbally and by conduct, one is secure.
Thus we are not Calvinist, but I do not see that we are entirely Arminian either.
@Robert Stephenson
I am not certain as to your meaning. The Decalogue, to use the ten dollar word, is plain that we are to worship no other God aside from Jehovah/Yaweh, and Deuteronomy 6:4-5, among many others, are explicit that He is the only God. We see no divisions or separations in the nature of God. Therefore we ardently deny the existence of an eternal plurality of persons participating in the Godhead, which I am assuming was the heart of your question. If I was incorrect in my assumptions, please enlighten me so that I may be more accurate.
@Robert Stephenson
This is true. Granted, we Oneness Pentecostals do not deny that Jesus Christ is God. But we state with Paul in Colossians 2:9, " For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." And in I Timothy 3:16, "And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up into glory."
@robertstephenson6806 It's not taught since 4th century, but since the very beginning. Read some earliest Church Fathers, who were direct disciples of the Apostles. Christianity doesn't believe in 3 gods. There's only one God for sure. But this God is not confined to a simple, single personality as we are. Don't try to put God in a box. His nature is beyond our comprehension. What we know is that He is a plurality in one. Just check Genesis 1:26 "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness ... Man and woman he created them" - notice the plural form. Human family is the image of God. Genesis 2:24 "The man has now become like one of us" - again the plural. Genesis 3:22 "a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh" - this refers to both their physical and mental unity, but also the fact that they have children who are like them, combining the DNA of both parents, being of the same kind and dignity as they are, yet different. Similarly both the Father, the Holy Spirit and Jesus are One and yet not the same. This is a mystery to us, and rightly so. It would be weird if a Creation could fully comprehend its own Creator. As believers we must be open to mystery, because the whole Christian Faith is soaked in it.
@Robert Stephenson There’s also John 1:1-4 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…” Coupled with John 1:14 “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.” That’s a pretty clear statement. The Word became flesh is obviously referring to Jesus. The Word is also both God and with God. Hence Jesus is God, even though we mere humans have a limited intellect and have a hard time understanding how.
I for one would love more of these commonly asked questions videos.
He was so pleased with his second board tomfoolery
AS HE SHOULD BE
I literally hooted and hollered when he pulled it out
You keep changing formats, and so far they're all great.
Thank you Joshua, I am from Church of God in Christ. I still have many many friends in that faith. On my Dad's side they are Oneness Pentecostals. God bless! ❤❤
When exercising, I typically watch your videos as well as those from my RC church. Two months ago RUclips put Friday and Saturday services from New Yorks Central Synagogue in my feed. I was amazed at the difference. Their (reformed) service is very social, warm and friendly while ours is “sit down, shut up and be reverent”. The Bat and Bar Mitzvahs are something to watch as kids take on the responsibilities of Jewish adults. This might be a good topic for you to explore.
A friend of mine took me to a women’s retreat that turned out to be Independent Pentecostal, with lots of speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues isn’t a gift of mine, but SINGING is something I do easily. It’s a left-brain right-brain thing, sort of like country singer Mel Tillis except that I don’t stutter. (Mel Tillis sang like an angel but he had a horrible stutter when he spoke.) My friend hadn’t been taught about singing in tongues (1 COR 14:15 and other verses: I will pray with the spirit… I will sing with the spirit.) I also discovered that I have the gift of interpretation when I hear someone speaking in an unfamiliar language. Interpretation is a gift I’ve used both in a religious setting (where it was validated by others in the group) and in a secular setting where I can assist people who don’t speak English.
During the retreat we were all asked to stand together and pray in tongues. My Independent Pentecostal friend had a hard time accepting that I had the gifts of singing in tongues and of interpreting, but not the gift of speaking in tongues. I tried instructing her from the Bible. But since her pastors had harped so heavily on speaking in tongues as the most important gift (which is NOT biblical) she found my singing disruptive and went elsewhere to pray.
Side note: I was taught Catholic Greek and Latin prayers as a child. (Yes, I am that old.) At this retreat we were sent to small groups with leaders who tried to get us to “release” the gift of speaking in tongues. After I got thoroughly frustrated with their efforts I recalled those old Catholic prayers, recited a couple of them, and was widely praised for finally letting the gift of speaking in tongues manifest itself. I thought it was funny that, with all their emphasis on bible study using ancient biblical languages, nobody recognized spoken Greek and Latin. Not even Kyrie Eleison - Christe Eleison which is often used in popular music and in movies.
If you can understand foreign languages you don't know, you should film it and upload it on RUclips
@@paulread7113 I said interpretation, not translation. There’s a big difference. And no, I won’t go find someone who doesn’t speak English so that I can make a RUclips video for your amusement.
@@nan7861 So basically you can do the supernatural which would change the opinions of everyone in the world, but you don't want to film it. Yeah right pull the other one 😂
I mean at that point just be Catholic lol. It feels like they're almost making it up as they go along.
I was raised Pentecostal but became an Episcopalian as an adult. In fact, I'm ordained in the Episcopal Church. This is a very good survey of the movement
Growing up Pentecostal, all the churches ive been to have yearly or biyearly missionary trips where random volunteers, often 16-25 year olds, from the church would go to Africa or a latin American country for about two weeks for a missionary trip. Many churches even worked together to setup permanent churches in africa.
Cool format, would love to see this sort of vid for other denominations
Great unbiased video. I was saved in a Pentecostal church, was later baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues in 1971 and still speak in prayer. Baptism in water came a couple of years later as an act of personal obedience. One point, John Wesley believed in experiencing a personal Pentecost.
What do you people mean when you say you were saved?
Are you referring to the time you became a believer? Are you referring to when you first had a spark of interest in spiritual things?
@@bobbycecere1037 Thanks for the question. I mean the instant that I accepted Jesus as my personal savior and experienced a changed life. Before that point in time I h ad always believed in God, but not unto salvation. So just having an interest in spiritual things or being religious is not the same thing.
Why are ʏoʊ Pentacostals commiting a ʜostɨle ɪnⱱasɨon of ɪsɾael?
@Uthyr Greywick
Soooooo, You're saying that simply coming to believe in the christ as a savior Now protects you from your own choices??
If you decided to abandon christian morals today and go live a life at odds with the inspired word, Are you still saved?
@@bobbycecere1037 I didn't say that, I'm not a Calvinist. All believers have need of repentance from time to time, but Hebrews 5:4-6 lays your question to rest.
I love these videos. Information on the different denominations is really fascinating. In my spiritual life I've bounced around a lot, baptized and raised methodist, was agnostic for about 10 years, then I came to believe in God and then christ all on my own, started church hopping and trusted the holy spirit to guide me into truth and out of error. First I went non denom for about 6 months, then to a gay affirming church, for one blasphemous service, then to a money hungry Baptist church for a service, then I landed in with jehovahs witnesses for 9 months till I realized the truth about the new world translation, then I discovered apologetics went to pentacostals for 6 months till I was pressured to have some experience in front of everyone and i felt nothing. Their eschatology was crazy too i eventually became convinced of calvinism and became a Presbyterian for 10 years.
That whole time, I still didn't have the best grasp of reformed theology. Some doctrines just didn't line up with scripture. I had a pretty powerful experience one day when things were really rough and I thought I would lose my wife and kids and I prayed to God to help me fix this. Show me where I went wrong, show me what the right path is. Anyway after a dream about a catholic priest I sort felt confused. I was a pretty staunch anti catholic... there's no way they're the right church... I started looking into the apologetics and debates fully expecting the catholics to get crushed by it seemed like they had an answer for everything and 75% of what I was told catholics believe was a complete lie.
I could write a book of all the things I was wrong about when it it came to what I was told they believe. What other church is so brazenly misrepresented? Anyway that was over a year ago and I was just confirmed catholic this easter I've never felt more satisfied with scripture, more loved by my congregation, and closer to Christ. I feel like he's really there and when I bow it's because I'm in the presence of christ. When the priest absolves me of my sin I truly feel forgiven. The state of grace feels much better than having good reason to assume you're elect.
As a very introverted person, I found it incredibly awkward when I visited a Novus Ordo Mass and unexpectedly in the middle we were told to greet all of our neighbors.
During subsequent visits it was fine but that first time I wanted to sink into the floor. I'm trying to imagine being pressured to "speak in tongues" in front of everyone and I just can't wrap my head around it. I would probably run out the door and never go back!
@@NMemone Yeah I love mass, I thought the sign of peace moment was nice. It's like silently waving at people. What really really embarrassed me was the first "our father" I said there! In every protestant church I ever went to, the prayer finishes and the benediction starts as if it's part of the prayer. So everyone stops talking at evil but there I am loud as anything saying " FOR THE P...." everyone looked at me it was so so so embarrassing! I went home and looked up the prayer in Matthew. It does stop at evil! Totally through me for a loop and hasn't happened since. You have the prayers at mass memorized yet? I have em all except Gloria, I still get mixed up in the middle sometimes and have to refer to the missalette.
When I came into relationship with the the LORD, it was under the influence of Vineyard/ Calvary Chapel / AOG, it was there that I received teaching on the Holy Spirit, and received that gift spiritual tounges
The gift of gibberish that mocks the Holy Spirit.
Praise God! Keep pressing on in the Lord Jesus!
Why are ʏoʊ Pentacostals commiting a ʜostɨle ɪnⱱasɨon of ɪsɾael?
I'm so glad I was brought up and still am a member of UCC. By the way, you always look so put together, and love that beautiful red hair!!
All your explanations were spot on as an ex Conservative Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal.
As a Pentecostal, this was an accurate portrayal. I have watched several of your videos and have no idea your denomination. That means you must be doing a great job of unbiased presentation.
Fairly certain he stated in a vidoe he is baptist.
Just not listening carefully enough to catch the biases. He's Fundamental Baptist.
I’m Texan, and another large Pentecostal denomination is Full Gospel Holy Temple. They’re Trinitarian, and very similar to COGIC when it comes to rules and rituals. When I visited a FGHT, the women had long hair, also wore hats (unless they were in the choir), and no makeup, earrings, and only skirts or dresses.
I have also attended an Assembly of God church, where the pastor openly preached that if we didn’t speak in tongues, we weren’t truly saved. That was enough to turn me away. I will stay traditional Baptist because of men like him.
I’ve noticed that there are so many facets of Pentecostalism that have them splitting into multiple denominations. It’s definitely confusing, especially if the church doesn’t outright say what kind of denomination it is. I prefer churches use denominational titles so I don’t get confused.
Side note: I graduated from a defunct, very liberal UMC college in 2009 and didn’t notice anything about their doctrine as being Pentecostal rooted. I noticed it was more liturgical like the Episcopalians and Presbyterians.
I am surprised an Assembly of God pastor would take that position. But there are extremists in any group. I attended an AOG church in my 20s. I am 50 now.
It is amazing how many different sects came out of one simple truth in Acts. Jesus arose and stuck around for many to see. Then the Upper Room apostles and disciples experienced the Pentacost. My head spins when I try to learn more. Yet thank you and bless you for this that helps me to learn more.
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Some Pentecostals ARE Doctors!
One thing to take into consideration whether Pentecostals can drink alcohol. They can but most denominations have rules about people serving in ministry. This is because while Pentecostalism came onto the modern stage in the early 1900's, the official denominations that started in the 1920's wanted to make sure they were following the law and prohibition was still a law on the books. When the 18th amendment was repealed the denominations did not take the rule off the books.
Very nice video. I grew up Trinitarian Pentecostal (Church of God in Christ "aka" COGIC) and I affirm your answers as correct. African American Pentecostals generally do not like to identified as "conservative or evangelical" because of racial and political associations with these terms. However, undoubtedly, they are evangelical in their biblical interpretation and worldview. COGIC believes that salvation is obtained at the moment of repenting of sin, placing and professing faith in Jesus Christ as the son of God. From there a believer will receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the "initial" evidence of speaking in tongues. This may be given to all believers who earnestly seek after and ask for it. After the initial "filling" the subsequent frequency of speaking in tongues is solely at the will of the Holy Spirit, some Pentecostals speak in tongues frequently, while others do not. Water Baptism may take place at any time after the conversion experience and is not a requirement of church membership or salvation, but rather symbolic in nature. COGIC does not believe in infant baptism, but does practice "dedication" of infants to God, which is also a ceremonial and symbolic experience. Most still churches that I have been a part of adhere to teetotalism as official doctrine, but some are beginning to leave the choice to the members to consume alcohol privately and within moderation. This shift is attributed to Millennials and Gen Z who tend to favor more relaxed viewpoints regarding alcohol consumption, music, dress, tattoos and woman in ministry. The overwhelming majority of Pentecostals do believe that sexual activity is to be reserved for a monogamous heterosexual marriage; however, there is a minute, but growing number of LGBTQ affirming congregations. There also a small number who view marriage as commencing when two individuals profess their lifelong commitment to each other as opposed to a ceremony officiated by licensed clergy - this view is extremely rare, but it does exist. Last, most Pentecostals churches that I have been a part of are staunchly against O.S.A.S. and believe that can "backslide" and loose their salvation if they no longer adhere to the tenants of the faith. I cant say that all share this belief.
In my 55 years as a born-again believer and autodidact student of theology and church history, the most powerful and concise refutation of Pentecostal/charismatic errors was THE LINE DRAWN written by Miles J. Stanford (1919-1999).
Love this format!
I was raised in the Pentecostal Movement in Norway, and even though I now attend the Norwegian Missions Church, most closely relates to The Evangelical Free Church of America and the Evangelical Covenant Church, I really appreciate your thorough and unbiased look at Pentecostalism.
Might I ask, what motivated you to leave the Pentecostals?
More of a coincidence. I moved to a new area, and the pentecostal church there is one of the largest in Norway (around 800 members) and I wanted a smaller amd more intimate church, and this was the closest church to where I live, apart from the lutheran Church of Norway (which is really liberal). I are still on board with pentecostal theology for the most part, and doesn't really experience all that much of a difference, apart from the fact that they accept both believer's baptism and infant baptism, since the church I attend is quite charismatic.
I really liked this format, would be great to see you cover other denominations like this
There are so many Pentecostal and Neo-Pentecostal churches popping up everywhere (though most hide their affiliation and use “cool” names) I would love a video on them.
It's common for all kinds of churches to now use "cool" names, rather than names that tell you what kind of church they are.
@@jamesreed5678 oh absolutely. It drives me crazy that you have have to guess their affiliation or do a deep dive into their website to find out (and in most cases it’s not even there).
What I was referring to is my interest in a video about all these new churches with cool names, husband and wife co-pastors, etc; most of which, for whatever reason, seem to be pentecostal or neo-pentecostal. Why are so many people attracted to these churches?
I intensely dislike the modern names for churches, because they do not actually tell you anything about them.
@@csg9095 Pastors at Pentecostal churches teach whatever they think people most want to hear. You can be healthy, rich, and not die (faith healing, prosperity gospel, rapture)! A big chunk of the Bible is about events happening today (dispensationalism)! You too can speak foreign languages without being taught (tongues)! And, "Epicenter" is much cooler than "Calvary Assembly of God."
@@csg9095 that info is usually found on the church's website or by contacting the church office.
Very informative! The "in the name of Jesus" baptism formula is not entirely peculiar to Oneness circles. I've seen it used among some Trinitarian charismatics. That baptism formula is mentioned in the Book of Acts. On the "Fundamentalist" question, I chuckled and agreed with your comment that "Fundamentalist" is vaguely used in the US. On almost all or all doctrinal points originally stated as "fundamental" by the original Fundamentalists, Pentecostals are in agreement. But in the US, "Fundamentalist" often is used by liberals as an epithet meaning "theologically conservative Christians I disagree with". Re doctors, back in the early 70s I did hear one or two radio preachers (R. W. Schambach being one, and maybe Jimmy Swaggart) speak of going to doctors as weak faith, but even then they were not mainstream.
The Assemblies of God, Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, and Church of God (Cleveland, TN) all had official statements that articulated the Fundementalist position a number of years before the Fundementalists began to unite against the Modernist doctrines.
At its inseption, the UPCI embraced a Fundamentalist position on most positions, and those that disagreed kept silent or left. Sadly it has moved slightly in away from its original core issues, but the average member would likely still qualify as being of a Fundementalist persuasion.
God put me in a (Trinitarian) pentecostal church. Your information is pretty solid regarding this.
Raised CRC but during covid the local Pentecostal church was the only one open so my wife and i have gone there the past 3 years and it is growing like crazy from what was a small size before covid.
Yeah but know that ʏoʊ Pentacostals commiting a ʜostɨle ɪnⱱasɨon of ɪsɾael!
I joined my local Pentecostal church during Covid, having been raised baptist :)
Such an amazing video!
Another great video. Like this format!
There is a pentecostal denomination here in Brazil (which also exists in the US) called Christian Congregation which baptizes with the formula: In the name of Jesus (I) baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. And I find it very strange why they mention Jesus twice and omit the pronoun "I".... (In Portuguese there is no problem omitting it)
Another informative video. I like your collaboration with Matt, you both bring slightly different things to the table that makes for a more complete picture, thx
Thank you so much for your unbiased sharing of information. As a Pentecostal myself (AG) I'm growing more curious about its Holiness origins. Glad to see Matt Baker undertaking a project that could cover that, but wondering if you'll make a video on the Holiness Movement sometime in the future? Thanks for all you do, God Bless
Why are ʏoʊ Pentacostals commiting a ʜostɨle ɪnⱱasɨon of ɪsɾael?
@@LangThoughts bruh
Thank you for a great video. I always thought that Pentecostals were closest to Baptist but was surprised to learn they derived from Methodists. Thank you again.
Cool, format. More please!
Really enjoyed this format!
The facial expression when taking away the 1st board 😂😂😂 man I swear that’s the first time I’ve seen you smile 😂 I love it
I've attended a trinitarian Pentecostal church for nearly 20 years. It's clear to me that the emphasis on tongues and healing has really cooled down over time. I think it's rare to find anyone who still believes in speaking in tongues and healing. That's because, eventually, we all realise that no one gets healed and tongue speaking is not the same as in Acts 2.
My Pentecostal church has become mainstream. There's nothing weird happening in Sunday services, if you know what I mean.
Some, if not most, Pentecostal Churches are becoming Charismatic at best to not say Evangelical or Mainstream. Let a Pastor in modern street clothes to enter the main stage with a heavy metal or pop rock praise band behind them to lead such a 90 minutes "meeting" Sunday morning Service of sorts with such a Biblical literal inerrant Preaching, mostly GOP leaning, and that's it. Born myself on Roman Catholic Charismatic Renewal I know what the movement is about. On the last 50 years medicine has done wonders. Today, even some severe conditions like Alzheimer or Parkinson do have some resilience measures that make those individuals suffering from it to have a better life. Cancer is being defeated each time more. For those body cure purposes nobody will call the Priest or the Pastor anymore for healing. Speaking in tongues and the likes are also becoming relics of a past era when information was scarce elsewhere. There are still some sects like the Brazilian "Universal Church of the Kingdom of God" (UCKG) whom will continue exploring some of those still more fragile to engage on said practices and theologies, but those Churches are quickly going away here in the first world. UCKG remains still among the 10 largest here in Portugal, but far from the clear number 2 they were some 25 years ago and their members are now mainly Brazilian expats living here. A huge decline, helped by their criminal scandals and the huge development on our society.
Happiness on the celebrations is great and I praise the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement to have remembered all of us for it... But I've left myself the movement. Simply our Faith should to be something far larger and far deeper than that. It has its limits. One enjoys the style for a while, but once one grows a bit more, one desires a little bit more. I'm OK with modern music, but not so much of the Pentecostal/Charismatic exaggeration anymore.
Why are ʏoʊ Pentacostals commiting a ʜostɨle ɪnⱱasɨon of ɪsɾael?
@@LangThoughts most pentecostals are premillennials and dispensationalists. After the fullness of Gentiles's salvation ends then God will deal with Israel. He'll save them.
Wow! Where are you looking? How are you so extremely ignorant on these matters yet so vocal about them?
@@bradc6199 I’m in Australia. It might be different in the US 🙂
*are Pentecostals Arminian
Most in the US are Arminian, but this is not the case in the UK. If you read Jonathan Black’s Apostolic Theology (the Apostolic Church being a Pentecostal denomination in the UK and other parts of the world) you’ll see emphasis on the Doctrines of Grace. This is because British Pentecostalism was heavily influenced by the Welsh Revival, which started among the Calvinistic Wesleyans.
What about the Charismatic churches and movements and groups... Could you make a video about that?
Fairly certain he already has.
You’re missing that the church of god Cleveland TN was the first to receive “the blessing”
I grew up in the Pentecostal church, but I never fully identified with it because I could never speak in tongues, though I desired to and tried. When I got older, I did some more research on the early church and what the Fathers believed and practiced. As I compared it to what I was taught and believed, I noticed significant differences. I became convinced that their understanding of scripture is likely correct over the modern interpretation of scripture that I had been taught as they are closer to the apostles in time and a few were even taught by the apostles themselves. I spent a lot of time looking into what different denominations teach today and it became evident that the Lutheran Church holds closest to the historic Christian faith as expounded in the Bible and supported by the early church fathers.
Lutheran church came about the 1500s during protestant reformation. Luther even wanted to ban books such as James as it was against his idea of faith alone. Only churches that are close to church father teachings are the oriental orthodox church, church of the east, eastern orthodox and the catholic church.
@@josephjacob3274 It's an easily disprovable myth that Lutheranism was a new religion that came about in 1500s. Everything that Lutherans believe, as expounded in the Lutheran Confessions, are not only based in scripture, but are supported by the writings of the early church fathers. If you take a look at the Lutheran Confessions, the Early Church fathers are referenced and quoted in every confessional document. Nothing Luther taught was a new idea. He was going back to the teachings of the early church as Rome had strayed. Lutheran identity is that we are the Western Catholic church cleansed by the Gospel. We are the continuation of the one, Holy, catholic, and apostolic church, as everything we believe is in line with the early church.
Though Martin Luther was openly critical of the book of James, he never proposed to remove it from scripture. He even said this about the book: “Though this epistle of St. James was rejected by the ancients, I praise it and consider it a good book, because it sets up no doctrines of men but vigorously promulgates the law of God.”
Justification being by faith through grace not works is repeated throughout scripture. However, there is no such thing as faith without works, but your works are not what saves you, they are evidence of your faith. This has been believed by numerous church fathers as well like St. Clement of Rome, St. Ignatius, St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, and many more. If you think your works help you earn your salvation, you are saying that Christ’s sacrifice was not sufficient.
Although the “Orthodox” and Roman Catholic churches were structurally established earlier on, it does not at all mean that their teachings are closer to the teachings of the early church. The Eastern Orthodox church follows new teachings from theologians well into the 12th century if not later. The Roman Catholic church innovates doctrine and practice that never existed every few hundred years. Doctrines like Indulgences, Communion of one kind, the treasury of merit, Purgatory, Papal infallibility have no root in scripture, nor in the writing of the early church fathers. Most of them were created in the latter half of the Middle Ages. Everything the Lutheran Church teaches is found in the Early Church. The Roman Catholic church and Eastern Orthodox church, on the other hand, cannot say the same.
@Nonz The Catholic Church has never taught such a doctrine and, in fact, has constantly condemned the notion that men can earn or merit salvation. Catholic soteriology (salvation theology) is rooted in apostolic Tradition and Scripture and says that it is only by God’s grace-completely unmerited by works-that one is saved.
The Church teaches that it’s God’s grace from beginning to end which justifies, sanctifies, and saves us. As Paul explains in Philippians 2:13, “God is the one, who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work.”
Notice that Paul’s words presuppose that the faithful Christian is not just desiring to be righteous, but is actively working toward it. This is the second half of the justification equation, and Protestants either miss or ignore it.
James 2:17 reminds us that “faith of itself, if it does not have work, is dead.” In verse 24 James says, “See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” And later: “For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead” (2:26).
The Council of Trent harmonizes the necessity of grace and works: “If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or by the teaching of the Law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema” (Session 6; can. 1).
The Council fathers continued by saying, “If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema” (Session 6: can. 9).
By the way, “let him be anathema” means “let him be excommunicated,” not “let him be cursed to hell.” The phrase was used in conciliar documents in a technical, theological sense, not in the same sense as the word “anathema” is found in Scripture. Don’t let “Bible Christians” throw you for a loop on this one.
So, far from teaching a doctrine of “works righteousness” (that would be Pelagianism, which was condemned at the Council of Carthage in A.D. 418), the Catholic Church teaches the true, biblical doctrine of justification.
@Nonz The infallibility of the Church in general-and the pope in particular-is not a doctrine that suddenly appeared in Church teaching; rather, it is a doctrine that was affirmed in various ways in the early Church, beginning with our Lord Jesus Christ’s words to the first pope, the Apostle St. Peter, and also to the apostles in general.
For example, Jesus instructed his apostles to preach everything he taught (Matt. 28:19-20) and promised them the protection of the Holy Spirit to “guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13), and that includes a greater understanding of the Pope’s infallibility over time. God’s truth doesn’t change, but our human apprehension of that truth in the Church can increase over time.
In addition, Jesus prays that his disciples, the Church, “be one,” as he and the other Father “are one” (John 17:20-23). That would require that Peter and his papal successors be infallible, as the visible and supreme leaders of the Church of earth, as the ones who uniquely hold “the keys of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 16:19), so that they can preserve God’s unifying truth, lest the sheep be scattered through error.
In addition, the doctrine of infallibility is implied in these texts about St. Peter and his Petrine successors: Matthew 16:18-19 (“You are Peter . . . “); Luke 22:32 (“I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. . .”); and John 21:15-17 (“Feed my sheep . . . “). Peter’s God-given mandate, and Christ’s related promises, guarantee that the Church will never fall away from his teachings (Matt. 16:18; 1 Tim. 3:15), even if individual Catholics might.
As Christians began to more clearly understand the teaching authority of the Church and of the primacy of the pope, they developed a clearer understanding of the pope’s infallibility. For example, in the late second century, in his magnum opus Against the Heresies, St. Irenaeus of Lyons, writes of the Church of Rome, over which Peter and his papal successors preside,
With that church, because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition ((Against Heresies 3:3:2 [A.D. 189]).
In 251, St. Cyprian of Carthage, writes:
If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church? (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
Further, in the fifth century, St. Augustine succinctly captured the ancient attitude when he remarked, “Rome has spoken; the case is concluded” (Sermons 131, 10).
@Nonz also, sola scriptura is highly flawed. Martin Luther even admitted this as it will cause disunity in groups. Hence, why we have over 44 thousand denominations.
Could you do a video on the First Church of Our Lord Jesus and Christ and it's leader Gino Jennings? His denomination fascinates me.
He is a fascinating individual, and his church would be labeled a Oneness Pentecostal organization, though he adamantly denies this association as most Oneness Pentecostal organizations allow for women preachers, though rarely pastors.
I live across the street from a Pentecostal church they seem to have a lot of parties
Thank you sir.
Please do a video explaining the differences and similarities between Pentecostals, Charismatics, and neo-Pentecostals.
PS found your channel because of this collab with UsefulCharts. I found this video to be very unbiased and truthful. Thank you so much. I also love the autocomplete format.
I think he has a video on the difference between charismatics and pentecostals.
@@Steve-L can you help me with a link?
@@despaahana What are Pentecostal and Charismatic Churches? ruclips.net/video/jXekCv1EKrE/видео.html
@@despaahana Pentecostal vs Charismatic: 5 Differences ruclips.net/video/L9LlzB8C21M/видео.html
Very interesting
I don't know if there's anybody that's more knowledgeable about religions and Christian denominations than this guy. If one exists he's not on RUclips..
This means theres a new denomination video on useful charts
I'm a Christian and pentecostal in theology. Good job. There are charismatics in the Roman Catholic Church, notably John Michael Talbot. He is Francescan and has lovely music here on RUclips. Arksnsas USA.
There is a Welsh Pentecostal denomination called the Apostolic Church, born out of the 1904 Revival. The Apostolic Church in Wales is Trinitarianism and unaffiliated with the American Oneness Apostolic Church.
The Apostolic Church is probably the biggest denomination to come out of the 1904 Revival, but the other big one is Elim.
I spent a portion of my childhood in an Apostolic Church. I don't remember hearing tongues much, if at all, and there was a guy who was the prophet for the church. It he thought he had received a prophecy, he would take it to the leadership who would then have him share it with the church. There was no random standing up and sharing prophecies on a whim as most Pentecostals do.
I'd actually be really interested to see a comparison between Welsh Pentecostals that came out of the 1904 Welsh Revival, and classic Pentecostals that came out of the 1906 Azusa Street Revival.
"Reformed" should include both Calvin and Arminius.
I once was invited to the baptism of a friend (girl) , they gave her adult baptism by imersion, after that (she was lifted up) if I remember corectley, the dominee (revenant) prayed in the ununderstandable language version of speaking in tongues (glossolalie).
,there service was with halleluja songs and , people prayed and believed God gave them pophecies or visions, un orderley, there was a cell group where they teach the youth (I was one at the time,cause I began to join that church while searching a church after being born again) their teachings. The name of the church was philadelphia gemeente (gemeente = fellowship)it was in a dutch city.
I was raised in a church that was charismatic, had Calvinistic soteriology, modesty standards, practiced exclusive faith healing, and was fundamentalist regarding Scripture and positions of church authority.
Now I'm classically Reformed.
Coming from a pentacostal background, this is very accurate. Conservative about a lot of things but very loose about some.
hey you should do a video about hutterites
Brother, would you be ok if I translated your video and posted it?
I've left a pentecostal church, a very big one, not the assemblies of God, and the information you put forward would really be helpful
I grew up in a Pentecostal home. Pentecostalism is VERY similar to Voodoo. No, seriously, it is.
I still have no clue how my Sunday school teacher started on David and Goliath and ended the lesson on the latter day reign of jesus... I have no clue when we made the jump... But i stayed very interested in the lessons... It was young adults class
Does it make any sense to celebrate easter but not lent or advent?
Evangelical Orthodox Church (EOC) please !
I became Pentecostal/Charismatic through a Catholic Charismatic Conference way back in 1989. I no longer am Catholic, but yes there are non-protestant Charismatic/pentecostal people and groups.
Yes, there are. Roman Catholic Charismatic Renewal as the best example. I was born on one of their Parishes at the time. I left the charismatic world eventually at more or less 30 when I found that my Catholic Faith was larger than a single aspect of it. Charismatics are a part of the Church. Sadly some assume they're the full thing for themselves. I'm now such a rural area regular Catholic, but there is a lesson I had for life from the charismatics: Be always happy, even within the Eucharist Celebration. Christ came to save us all. We must be happy for that!... Why on earth some Masses feel like if we were on a funeral service?...
Some of my family from my wife's side is pentecostal. A lot of these people don't allow allow their kids to go to school. This is like a lot of people in that side of the family. What's the deal with that? For my entire family I can't find an actual answer of why? I've seen this to be a big problem. A lot of the family members are just uneducated and kind of dumb too. I don't want to sound mean but it's kind of true. And it's all because of their religious practice. I have no idea why. Does anyone have an answer or might know why?
From studying Oneness Pentecostal Literature, it seems that they believe that water baptism is a physical/spiritual conduit of how the Blood of Christ can become efficacious to the soul . 'Church of Christ' believes on similar lines. Catholics and Lutherans believe that the Mass/ Communion / Lord Supper are also conduits of the Blood of Christ. They fail to believe that FAITH in the Blood of Christ secures Salvation in a one time act of FAITH. Romans 3:25-26
Sadly, like most in modern Christendom, they fail to distinguish the ACT of receiving Salvation ( Moment in Time ) to that of Sanctification and Discipleship which are life long process AFTER Salvation
CARLTON PEARSON 👏 is my favorite Pentacostal !
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THAT’S MODALISM, PATRICK!
Please do make video about ipc(Indian Pentecostal church of god). Head quarter is in kumbanandu Kerala (india). Funder :KE Abraham.began in 1924
How is that different from modalism?
It isn't
I was surprised that “do Pentecostals allow women to be pastors?” wasn’t one of the top questions.
The board was cool move
7:21 Are Pentecostals Protestant?
An interesting question, and one I'm reluctant to say yes to. The underlying question is "what makes a denomination Protestant?" to which the most concrete answer I think would be that they ascribe to the principle of sola scriptura. As in Pentecostalism and Charismatic denominations usually seems to be the case, the personal experience is at a greater authority than the scriptures. This leads to biblically unbiased doctrines on tongues, holy spirit baptism, grave soaking, etc. I would argue this makes a hard break with what is definitional to the Protestant reformation, hence not being Protestant.
Simple answer yes they are protestant
There are Catholic pentecostals. I was one, but left the Catholic church very soon after. Just like any kind of church many stick with scripture and many do not. I know of many Charismatic and pentecostal churches that are strongly based on God's word. But there also some who are weak in that.
@@Steve-L I think you mean Charismatic Catholics, yes I'm aware. However, the whole reformation was about the issue of Tradition versus Sola Scriptura. So both (Roman) Catholicism and Pentecostalism in my view distance themselves from Sola Scriptura, one for Tradition, the other for experience.
My question still stands, should we identify Pentecostalism as another main tier in Christianity as they seem to part ways from *the* defining aspect of what makes a protestant Protestant?
Sovereign Grace is a denomination of Spirit Filled Calvinists.
How does one describe the Christians at Pentecost, “drunk” rather full of faith and the Holy Spirit. Supernatural speaking by being baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Why is the Trinity considered monotheistic? Many pagan religions believed in one main deity with lesser deities and they are polytheistic. The 3 in one are equal and angels are lesser deities along with satan and demons being deities?.
Because they are not different entities. They are one being. Also, angels are supernatural spirits, but they are not deities unless you are using a different definition of deities than is normally employed. How do you define "deity"
Abraham did not go to church, he was not baptised in water, he had no Bible, he had no liturgy, he was not institutionalised. Yet he is saved. His life exemplifies true salvation, and that is to hear God, trust Him and walk in obedience. That leads to salvation. Eternal life is to know God personally (John 17: 3). It is quite simple really.
He wasn’t baptised as Jesus hadn’t been raised from the dead yet.
Your ignorance is overwhelming as Abraham was in a different Covenant and Jesus Atonement reached back and saved the people in the upper chamber of Abraham's Bosom as the story of the rich man and The other Lazarus explains .
Try reading the whole ch . of John 17 it obviously isn't saying what you implied by your erroneous proof text verse.
@@davidjanbaz7728 Yet God changed His name to be known as the 'Lord God of Abram.' He then took an H out of His name and put it into Abram's name. Now that is what I call relationship. In the end I do not care much for theology, though have a degree in it. I rejoice as I know God Himself. God is not religious, He is not a theologian, He is life. The greatest of all theologians is the devil.
Abraham and Moses were known as friends of God. The rest of us have to go through the line, lol
I agree with you, I was just making a joke.
65 million Christians go to the church not built by human hands, and more are added every day.
@@malcolmabram2957 you seem confused so your incoherent theology has warped your brain.
Jesus said he was the" I am" of YHWH and Thomas said To Jesus: the LORD of me and the God of me .
Jesus also said Moses wrote about him.
Stay ignorant if you wish !
When Jesus did a miracle, claimed to be Messiah and the people asked for another miracle, what was His response?
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Yes, Pentecostals are Arminian, but I have seen an increase of Calvinism in the movement.
I don't think I could ever get into the Pentecostal church. The speaking in tongues part is actually the biggest deal breaker as I already know I could never get into it and according to people that used to go to the church they say it was very important.
I felt the same way as you until one day, praying fervently, it happened to me. I wasn't planning on it, or expect it. It just happened. After that, it became second nature. One way to think of speaking in tongues is that you are uttering something there are no words for in ordinary language, a sense of God so profound, you are speaking the unspeakable. It can be a truly liberating experience. I respect your view though.
I'm in one. It's very, VERY important. Unbiblically important. My church believes it's a divine, personal language that can be practiced, they all speak at once and sometimes while up on the mic, there's no interpretation not waiting their turn. Basically how it was said in the video.
Thank God that I received the Holy Ghost like the Bible says, and was baptized correctly in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of my sins. (Acts 10:44-48),(Acts 2:37-38).
Bluff city United pentacostal church or BCUP
Lol the grammar dunk 😂
Where is the useful charts channel?
Mind to link us?
If you type "useful charts" into youtube's search bar, it should be the first result.
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The Bible calls it "Speaking with tounges", not speakinh in tounues. Two total differnt words. What else do Pentecostals have wrong?
It's language, not a magical incantation. "Speaking in languages" or "Speaking with languages" are both fine. Even the KJV says "Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak *in* our tongues the wonderful works of God" (Acts 2:11)
Pentecostals are not homogeneous. Not by a long shot. There are differences both in theology and worship practices in church services.
This video makes some people upset.
Opinion: Oneness should not even be mentioned because they’re not to be considered Christian
People who believe there is 3 separate gods and 3 persons shouldn’t be considered Christian because none of those terms are used in the bible, its catholic man made dogma. Neither is the word Trinity found in the bible...God was manifested in the flesh. 1 Tim 3:16 The first commandment says there’s only one God not 3 Gods. Go study isa 9:6 explains Jesus. The oneness people have it right One Lord one faith one baptism
@@JWatts-gc4zw They also baptize wrong. Sprinkling, pouring water and title words father son and holy spirit is incorrect. Complete water immersion is the only way people were baptized in the New T . and in The Name of Jesus Christ was pronounced over them . Acts 2:38
Trinitarians have catholic roots. Catholics are not Christians.
He did a video on such things.
The fastest growing branch of Christianity, ever. Oneness are not even quite 1/100th the size of so called Trinitarian in actually worldwide numbers.
Whrn i was growing up and spending time in the summer in west Virginia i and my sister and brother jad to attend my mom childhood church witch is the church of God in Christ and they would tell you that you are not born again unless you speak in tongues and I never saw communion taken or water baptism done at her childhood church of god in Christ church in west Virginia and they was kjv only pentecostals don't celebrate Halloween like baptist do 8:48
I thought all Christian groups who were not Catholic were protestant. Also, Why do some say I am not Christian I am Baptist. I said if you follow Christ you are Christian.
christianity is divided into 3 major denominations: catholicism, orthodoxy, and protestantism. catholicism and orthodoxy split from each other in 1054, regarding an addition to the nicene creed called the filioque, which said that the Holy Spirit came from the Father and the Son. orthodoxy do not believe in the filioque and are mostly in the eastern hemisphere, and their churches are based off of ethnic groups (greek orthodox church, russian orthodox church, etc). protestantism came about in the 1500s, when martin luther wanted to reform the church after he saw issues with the catholics, especially regarding interpretation and the papacy
I'm a trinitarian Pentecostal, however, not speaking in tongues doesn't mean you're not saved. Paul didn't say everyone must speak in tongues, he said he wishes. That means not all could. I love my walk with the Holy Spirit 🙂
On "Are Pentecostals Protestants?", the better answer is "not exclusively," since the experience and the theology are not limited to Protestants. There is, for example, a sect within the Roman Catholic Church is considered Pentecostal and adherents are known as "Charismatic Catholics."
Yep I came from such. but left the Catholic church soon after.
Is Pentecostalism a sub-sect of Evangelicalism?
Paul discourages speaking in tongues unless there is someone to interpret. But my experience is that Pentecostal services are full of incoherent babbling - it's honestly a bit creepy.
There are 2 kinds of tongues, one is a message and should be done alone, but there also is a prayer tongue which many can do at the same time. this video spoke about that. But not knowing about the details can be confusing.
I've always found the "Oneness" theology pretty hilarious. It takes a lot of arrogance to believe literally 99% of all Christians understood the nature of God wrongly for countless ages, and only your small subsection of a single protestant denomination gets it. Especially considering they're not actually even unitarians, as Joshua rightfully pointed out. They believe Jesus is THE God. So is the Father. So is the Holy Spirit. They are effectively trinitarians, who just can't quite put together how do all of the theological facts fit together. Listening to them trying to explain their own view on this is a hobby of mine. It's like they are just personally offended by trinitarianism so they will never admit it, but they basically repeat all individual truths after it anyway. It's so confusing and funny. I guesssome people just need to feel special!
I was told that their belief is called Modelism. That God was just acting in a different mode, and only perceived as 3. It almost made sense, but I'm still a Trinatarian Pentecostal.
@@padillas4357 I know it's called modalism, but no, it really does make zero sense to me. Hearing a oneness pastor explaining verses when all Persons are mentioned or seen at the same time (Baptism of Jesus, greetings of Paul, formula of baptism etc) is straight comical. For example, Holy Spirit is a mode of God that "acts". But in the baptism, the Father SPEAKS. He entitles Jesus, calls him his son. That is definitely acting by every meaning of the word. Not only that, but at the very same time, Holy Spirit descends and acts separately, taking a separate form of a dove. Modalism is clueless, it's Sabellianism (ancient heresy), on steroids. And let's not even mention Oneness Pentacastals trying to explain Jesus praying to himself. Absolutely hilarious. You can see that so many times they just want to acknowledge that the persons of the trinity are seperate, distinct in many ways, but they just can't bring themselves to do it, so they end up talking nonsense in circles.
There are only two denominations. Orthodox and heterodox.
Why do Americans keep building new Christian churches? ¿Are pastors tired of being Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, etc.?
And I desire to preach differently. Apparently, in fifty years, there are going to be twenty-five Protestant churches.