**Update Oct 2024** Heya folks - there has been a change to the location of the cache folder. You will now find it here: C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
Another one..."One (settings) fits all?" Despite i agree with most of your recommendations - they are for a high end system like yours. Your system is an edge case most people dont have. Making these kinds of tutorials more helpful for the majority that are hard limited by either CPU/GPU/RAM would mean to explain the system dynamics (how components depend on each other) and then have at least 2 different scenarios. And please explain more why are you changing a specific setting, i know its hard with lacking of proper settings documentation by Microsobo. Very happy with your recommendation to put "Max power" into the FlightSim only applied settings. Thank you!
I was having awful micro stutters when landing and after watching this video and applying the settings they are all gone. Thanks for putting this video up!
I just upgraded to the 7950X3D and I have the RTX 4080. After playing a while it felt like something was just not right. Felt like the performace was not where it should be. Thanks to your tips my flights are flawless now. Smooth as butter! Thank you!
This is awesome! I gained a lot of FPS. Usually, I dismiss settings guides like this as snake oil but this time, it was more like penicillin! :). Thanks!!
The "Disk Clean-up" option from the start menu is also available on Windows 11 now as well, so that is probably the quickest / safest way to do it. Just select C drive, then let it scan for system files also to clean up. The advantage is it cleans a lot more than just the shader files in one go. It deletes a lot of useless junk. Thanks TTM for this video. I have rolling cache off, but I never knew about deleting it once in a while. Great stuff as usual!
I just subscribed. BTW - I saw another video where a guy said to set static aircraft on the ground to zero. True, you don't see anymore static aircraft (except custom scenery), but WOW! I can finally land my plane with ZERO stutters!
im also experiencing extreme stutters during final approach, particularly when i am at 500ft and then every few seconds until i land, what did you do to fix it?
Thank you for sharing , my 4090 was a big change from my 2070super however when I used your settings then my 4090 became super smooth. A really big thank you !
twotonemurphy, thank you very much for your assistance. I was very disappointed with my very expensive 4090 still stuttering like the AMD 6950 well, not quite as much but still. Now, I'll see how I go. Again, thanks for taking the time and sharing your knowledge and experience.
This helped a ton! Much smoother VR experience for me. I also enabled Resizable BAR for my 4090 and enabled it for MSFS using the Nvidia profile inspector. I'm not sure if that did much, but I'm definitely getting better performance. Thanks.
i can agree with all you say! i think i can add memory speed may be a issue as well i have the 4090 and amd 5800x3d and still gets shutters so im going to test putting 64 gigs 3600 instead of the OC 32gig 2800mhz running at 3200mhz should be here tomorrow or the next day my only other option is replace the motherboard with ddr5 its always a micro shudder or a outright CTD no error. So cant wait for beyond ATC this fall Going to be a game changer! Also Running 3 monitors i be leave at 144hz and there 4k monitors that also can be a performance hit here anyways what he and you are saying does do wonders and knowing that about the every time we install something new delete the cash is something else to really consider its worth as a regular maintenance also liquid cooled vs non so many factors sooo much money spending Happy Flying !
Thanks for the tip TwoTone. My sim is a lot faster but I noticed that now when I pan round the cockpit the window posts are jagged almost like the anti aliasing isn’t working properly. Do you have any advice to fix that.
The biggest help for fps seems to be disabling the rolling cache. Which is weird, logically it would be faster do load something from your hard drive than downloading from the net..
Thanks for the video TT but, as several others have posted, there is no DXCache folder in my NVIDIA folder. But when I search the C: drive there are lots of NVIDIA folders containing folders titled DXCache in various Appdata\local\packages subfolders but I can't sort the wood from the trees.
there has been a change to the location of the cache folder. You will now find it here: C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
Thank you so f'ng much mate! My sim was getting unflyable on an RTX3080ti! Not sure which step fixed it but it's now as smooth as the proverbial babies b....
there has been a change to the location of the cache folder. You will now find it here: C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
Mr. Two Tone a nice cold pint of Magners on me!! Thanks for this. And one for Mr. Q8 but if he doesn't drink as per religion then you can have 2 on me.🤘🍻
Thanks! Deleted the chashfiles and the stutters are gone! Also changed the video settings, but now instrumentes in cockpit are little out of focus. Do you have any advice what to change?
in the nvidia contro panel i noted that you have two option dsr factor and drs smoothnes, that I don't have. Do you use nvdia Studio Driver instead of Game Ready Driver? may I ask which number you have?
Good stuff - I followed this for X-Plane 11 and it gave me 8 fps more which makes all the difference - not checked for stutters yet as I only seem to get a small amount on approach - is there a fix specifically for X- Plane. Thanks for this.
Being the only one using a 230 Mb feed, I turned off rolling cache and I have seen no more "flying toward" FPS dips to flip card speeds. The 360 cache in the main page seems to be plenty. But if you have a video to correct the "latent layering problem where it looks like the ground is getting spray tanning as I come in low and slow, please share the info. P.S., I hear your name on Discord. All good.
I see you are running DLSS, When I turn that on with a 3090 I think it looks pants to be honest. Any thoughts on DLSS settings wise would be handy. Thanks for the video
What about the DLDSR 2.25 for my resolution of 3840X2160 on my 55" OLED TV which I could'nt find any more on the RTX video card ? I'll appreciated your comments !
Great video! What would you recommend for the RTX 3060 12GB VRAM version, 32 GB RAM and the Ryzen 5600x? Thanks! Mine keeps stuttering before and after with your tweaks. It says "Limited by Main Thread".
Just in case it helps.. I have very similar specs, same gfx card (3060 12gb) and same ram, but a 3700x CPU. Turning off photogrammetry in game made a huge difference for me, very few stutters now. I can actually fly into and out of KSEA now. That area used to be terrible. Might be worth a try with photogrammetry off. I have all forms of AI traffic off as well, this includes road vehicles, ships and aircraft.
@@robman501a it is a possibility I guess. I get around 900Mbps down and 450Mbps up, but I do live in New Zealand, so if the server is far away from me (likely! lol) that could be an issue in my case..
Does take time to get it perfect, and even so, it also depends on what aircraft type you flying and the airport you are at. Not all airports are not optimized so that doesn't help and also I find that the Fenix lags for me while flying at night. I use 3090 and at times DX12 can give errors DX11 is the better option, But who does use DX12 or DX11 another thing is that I do not run mSFS full screen, I use t in a very small border window. Full screen or not, what does that give to people for performance?
As usual these types of reduce stuttering instructions did absolutely nothing to reduce stutters and I’m not in the least bit surprised, because the stutters even on a high end system are inherent to the sim and only Asobo can do anything about it, so let’s hope there’s a few less of them in FS2024.
@@JohnVanderbeck yep, and thats cos a bit of the code is from around that time. 😔 FS2024 is the first big difference in improved multithreading with them moving the flight model to a different core. Massive performance improvements I think they said, unfortunately the stuttering is likely caused by other things but I’m hoping that it will at least have a small impact on improving matters and maybe, just maybe they did more than just that to reduce them but I’m not holding my breath as this is Asobo.
@@WhiteHawk77 The stuttering is caused by bad loading code. It is IO bound. Will it be fixed in 2024? I have my doubts. I'm sure it will be better, but let's be clear, there is a difference between fixing the heavy single threaded dependence the sim has now, and properly streaming IO as needed. For people like myself with high end CPUs, the problem is only partially the former, and much more the latter. That's why I will have a perfectly smooth flight in the air, and stutter in the departure, arrival, and approach - because that's where the sim is loading all the city/airport models, textures, etc and doing a bad job of it. We'll see if 2024 is better or not. I sure hope it is but I'm not holding my breath.
@@cutlass6332 that’s not the real reason FS2024 is being made and sold. That was going to happen anyway, because having a new version of the sim every few years is nothing new, yes they could have upgraded the current sim for free but that was never going to happen for ten years, a new separate sim to purchase is not surprising, but I hope it’s performance and smoothness is.
I have a HPG AIRBUS H145 with the Action pack rescue missions and to finish my local (East Anglia Air ambulance+ YOAA HEMS Yorkshire Air Ambulance liveries) it is BEAUTIFUL 😍 🤩 👌 I love it so much.. I have hundreds of hours in it... but it stutters like a paint shaker... its awful.. I have tried ALL setting in game a d nothing makes a difference (even at 1080p potato 🥔 mode lol... so I may aswell run it on ultra... it makes no difference lol What I would really like is to use my Oculus Rift S but that is like climbing into that paint mixing shaker machine first person mode as the bloody paint tin lmfao I have followed quite a few videos like this. Been all through Nvidia panel but you do have a slightly different approach... my rig is an acer predator with i7 10700/ RTX3070F.E/ 16GB DDR4 3200MH and a reasonable SSD I should be getting atleast 60fps surely I will edit this after trying your approach 👍
When you need to take steps like these, you know a game / sim is just not optimized. Still was and is an overrushed release and they should've taken more time.
Yes, for me having the rolling cache off improves things a little vs having it on brings some stutters. Its worth a test to see what option works best for you
In a recent update, nvidia changed the location. To get the DXcache, go to app data, local low (not local), nvidia, per division driver and DX cache will be there
Nvidia have since made some changes to their install. Start with the Nvidia control panel, manage 3D settings, Global. Turn off Shader Cache. Restart pc. Then navigate to App Data folder and go to either LocalLow or Roaming(away from my pc right now so check both locations) Inside the Nvidia folder you will see current version. Open this folder and it should show all the cache files. Delete them. Go back into Nvidia control panel and turn back on shader cache - that’s it
Interesting - are you getting better performance with it off? I have tested this somewhat on my pc and have found with it on ultra - it provides the best performance
**Update Oct 2024**
Heya folks - there has been a change to the location of the cache folder.
You will now find it here:
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
Out of all those settings in the video, turning off rolling cache is the most vital one for stutters. He's right: "It is what it is".
Great video and thank you for your kind words and shoutout my friend, I appreciate it.
Another one..."One (settings) fits all?" Despite i agree with most of your recommendations - they are for a high end system like yours. Your system is an edge case most people dont have. Making these kinds of tutorials more helpful for the majority that are hard limited by either CPU/GPU/RAM would mean to explain the system dynamics (how components depend on each other) and then have at least 2 different scenarios. And please explain more why are you changing a specific setting, i know its hard with lacking of proper settings documentation by Microsobo. Very happy with your recommendation to put "Max power" into the FlightSim only applied settings. Thank you!
I was having awful micro stutters when landing and after watching this video and applying the settings they are all gone. Thanks for putting this video up!
I just upgraded to the 7950X3D and I have the RTX 4080. After playing a while it felt like something was just not right. Felt like the performace was not where it should be. Thanks to your tips my flights are flawless now. Smooth as butter! Thank you!
This is awesome! I gained a lot of FPS. Usually, I dismiss settings guides like this as snake oil but this time, it was more like penicillin! :). Thanks!!
Awesome video mate!!! Thank so much for your time and info!!! Took my PC to a whole new level... In will share will all my Flight sim friends!!!
The "Disk Clean-up" option from the start menu is also available on Windows 11 now as well, so that is probably the quickest / safest way to do it. Just select C drive, then let it scan for system files also to clean up. The advantage is it cleans a lot more than just the shader files in one go. It deletes a lot of useless junk. Thanks TTM for this video. I have rolling cache off, but I never knew about deleting it once in a while. Great stuff as usual!
I just subscribed. BTW - I saw another video where a guy said to set static aircraft on the ground to zero. True, you don't see anymore static aircraft (except custom scenery), but WOW! I can finally land my plane with ZERO stutters!
Static aircraft require more performance, simple as that.
I went from stuttering with barely 25fps sometimes to almost 60. So amazing now I can turn traffic back on too without it tanking my game 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Huge improvement. This along with landing stutters fix gives me the buttery smooth flying I expected from my 4070.
im also experiencing extreme stutters during final approach, particularly when i am at 500ft and then every few seconds until i land, what did you do to fix it?
Thank you for sharing , my 4090 was a big change from my 2070super however when I used your settings then my 4090 became super smooth. A really big thank you !
Hi Murph - just wanted to say thanks for the vid - really helped me with my version of MSFS!
Many thanks been trying to resolve the stutters for weeks, your fix worked superbly and easy to follow comments
twotonemurphy, thank you very much for your assistance. I was very disappointed with my very expensive 4090 still stuttering like the AMD 6950 well, not quite as much but still. Now, I'll see how I go.
Again, thanks for taking the time and sharing your knowledge and experience.
this really helped my frames ur a g. this also helped me reduce the amount of flickering when using the frame gen mod i cant get over this ty
This helped a ton! Much smoother VR experience for me. I also enabled Resizable BAR for my 4090 and enabled it for MSFS using the Nvidia profile inspector. I'm not sure if that did much, but I'm definitely getting better performance. Thanks.
Glad you found time to have a look at this video. I found it quite useful for me. Did you give his filtering suggestions a try?
WoW it's a massive different now thank you so much 😍
Great stuff thanks, I must remember to keep deleting those shader caches 🍻
I confirmed that my sim is smoother right now with your tutorial, thks mate !!
outstanding tip and great performance uplift in vr. thank you
Just done it all and will see it helps thank you for this sir
Amazing!!!! This actually worked 100% Thank you!
Worked like a charm, thank you sir.
i can agree with all you say! i think i can add memory speed may be a issue as well i have the 4090 and amd 5800x3d and still gets shutters so im going to test putting 64 gigs 3600 instead of the OC 32gig 2800mhz running at 3200mhz should be here tomorrow or the next day my only other option is replace the motherboard with ddr5 its always a micro shudder or a outright CTD no error. So cant wait for beyond ATC this fall Going to be a game changer! Also Running 3 monitors i be leave at 144hz and there 4k monitors that also can be a performance hit here anyways what he and you are saying does do wonders and knowing that about the every time we install something new delete the cash is something else to really consider its worth as a regular maintenance also liquid cooled vs non so many factors sooo much money spending Happy Flying !
Superb video! btw do you turn of anisotrophic in the sim if its in on in the control panel?
The adjust video color setting in the NVCP is only for video playback, not sure why it's included.
Thanks for the tip TwoTone. My sim is a lot faster but I noticed that now when I pan round the cockpit the window posts are jagged almost like the anti aliasing isn’t working properly. Do you have any advice to fix that.
Tanks my friend, you saved my life.
The biggest help for fps seems to be disabling the rolling cache. Which is weird, logically it would be faster do load something from your hard drive than downloading from the net..
Great video! then If you are using AddonLinker you have to clean the Cache every time you do Scenery changes? BTW now my sim looks great Thank you!
Thanks for the video TT but, as several others have posted, there is no DXCache folder in my NVIDIA folder. But when I search the C: drive there are lots of NVIDIA folders containing folders titled DXCache in various Appdata\local\packages subfolders but I can't sort the wood from the trees.
there has been a change to the location of the cache folder.
You will now find it here:
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
You forget to mention that when changing the anisotropic filter to 16x in global settings you turn it off within the sim settings.
did you see an improvement? I tried it - but doesnt seem to make an impact
Thank you so f'ng much mate! My sim was getting unflyable on an RTX3080ti! Not sure which step fixed it but it's now as smooth as the proverbial babies b....
Thanks for the tips. Question though. I have a GLCache folder but no DXCache folder in there. Is that a problem?
there has been a change to the location of the cache folder.
You will now find it here:
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache
Thanks for the video... so, do you recommend turning off rolling cache ?
Yes turn it off and delete the cache if you have recommended internet speed, it makes more harm than good.
Mr. Two Tone a nice cold pint of Magners on me!! Thanks for this. And one for Mr. Q8 but if he doesn't drink as per religion then you can have 2 on me.🤘🍻
Thanks! Deleted the chashfiles and the stutters are gone! Also changed the video settings, but now instrumentes in cockpit are little out of focus. Do you have any advice what to change?
🙏🏾thank you for the video helped a ton!!!
in the nvidia contro panel i noted that you have two option dsr factor and drs smoothnes, that I don't have. Do you use nvdia Studio Driver instead of Game Ready Driver? may I ask which number you have?
it might depend on the GPU itself. Im running a 4090
Good stuff - I followed this for X-Plane 11 and it gave me 8 fps more which makes all the difference - not checked for stutters yet as I only seem to get a small amount on approach - is there a fix specifically for X- Plane. Thanks for this.
i dont see the DXCache folder only the GLCache , in GLCache there are 2 folders should i delete both?
Being the only one using a 230 Mb feed, I turned off rolling cache and I have seen no more "flying toward" FPS dips to flip card speeds. The 360 cache in the main page seems to be plenty. But if you have a video to correct the "latent layering problem where it looks like the ground is getting spray tanning as I come in low and slow, please share the info. P.S., I hear your name on Discord. All good.
Nice and helpful video! Is it possible to get your complete msfs graphic settings and traffic! And what shader preset you use. Thanks buddy.😊
Thanks mate, you can find all my settings over on our Discord. discord.gg/twotonemurphy
@@twotonemurphy thanks! I will check it out.👍
I see you are running DLSS, When I turn that on with a 3090 I think it looks pants to be honest. Any thoughts on DLSS settings wise would be handy. Thanks for the video
great video thank you
What about the DLDSR 2.25 for my resolution of 3840X2160 on my 55" OLED TV which I could'nt find any more on the RTX video card ? I'll appreciated your comments !
Can I use maximum performance in Nvidia control panel if my 4090 uses 3 pcie cables and not 4 cables?
Thank you so much.great
Great video thank you
If I don't have a DX Cache folder - what does it mean
I put an update above the comments mate - they moved things around a little
Is it normal that I didn't even have a DXCache folder? I use a 3070TI.
Great video! What would you recommend for the RTX 3060 12GB VRAM version, 32 GB RAM and the Ryzen 5600x? Thanks! Mine keeps stuttering before and after with your tweaks. It says "Limited by Main Thread".
Just in case it helps.. I have very similar specs, same gfx card (3060 12gb) and same ram, but a 3700x CPU. Turning off photogrammetry in game made a huge difference for me, very few stutters now. I can actually fly into and out of KSEA now. That area used to be terrible. Might be worth a try with photogrammetry off. I have all forms of AI traffic off as well, this includes road vehicles, ships and aircraft.
@@ajc129 I wonder if it's the internet speed that's limiting it and causing the stutters.
@@robman501a it is a possibility I guess. I get around 900Mbps down and 450Mbps up, but I do live in New Zealand, so if the server is far away from me (likely! lol) that could be an issue in my case..
what if i dont find de DX cache there is only a GL Cache
Hello friend, a little request, do you know settings for graphics with NVIDIA RTX 3070 on msfs please ?
Does take time to get it perfect, and even so, it also depends on what aircraft type you flying and the airport you are at. Not all airports are not optimized so that doesn't help and also I find that the Fenix lags for me while flying at night. I use 3090 and at times DX12 can give errors DX11 is the better option, But who does use DX12 or DX11 another thing is that I do not run mSFS full screen, I use t in a very small border window. Full screen or not, what does that give to people for performance?
Thanks mate
Thank you.
As usual these types of reduce stuttering instructions did absolutely nothing to reduce stutters and I’m not in the least bit surprised, because the stutters even on a high end system are inherent to the sim and only Asobo can do anything about it, so let’s hope there’s a few less of them in FS2024.
Yeah 90% of the stuttering is in the sim itself, it loading up resources and scenery etc on the main thread like its 1999
@@JohnVanderbeck yep, and thats cos a bit of the code is from around that time. 😔 FS2024 is the first big difference in improved multithreading with them moving the flight model to a different core. Massive performance improvements I think they said, unfortunately the stuttering is likely caused by other things but I’m hoping that it will at least have a small impact on improving matters and maybe, just maybe they did more than just that to reduce them but I’m not holding my breath as this is Asobo.
Hence 2024 you think? They found the solution, we buy a new game for £80
@@WhiteHawk77 The stuttering is caused by bad loading code. It is IO bound. Will it be fixed in 2024? I have my doubts. I'm sure it will be better, but let's be clear, there is a difference between fixing the heavy single threaded dependence the sim has now, and properly streaming IO as needed. For people like myself with high end CPUs, the problem is only partially the former, and much more the latter. That's why I will have a perfectly smooth flight in the air, and stutter in the departure, arrival, and approach - because that's where the sim is loading all the city/airport models, textures, etc and doing a bad job of it. We'll see if 2024 is better or not. I sure hope it is but I'm not holding my breath.
@@cutlass6332 that’s not the real reason FS2024 is being made and sold. That was going to happen anyway, because having a new version of the sim every few years is nothing new, yes they could have upgraded the current sim for free but that was never going to happen for ten years, a new separate sim to purchase is not surprising, but I hope it’s performance and smoothness is.
I appreciate it
So setting the anisotropic filtering to 16x in NV control panel. Should I then turn it off in the sim?
same question here should i turn it off in sim settings ?
I have a HPG AIRBUS H145 with the Action pack rescue missions and to finish my local (East Anglia Air ambulance+ YOAA HEMS Yorkshire Air Ambulance liveries) it is BEAUTIFUL 😍 🤩 👌 I love it so much.. I have hundreds of hours in it... but it stutters like a paint shaker... its awful.. I have tried ALL setting in game a d nothing makes a difference (even at 1080p potato 🥔 mode lol... so I may aswell run it on ultra... it makes no difference lol
What I would really like is to use my Oculus Rift S but that is like climbing into that paint mixing shaker machine first person mode as the bloody paint tin lmfao
I have followed quite a few videos like this. Been all through Nvidia panel but you do have a slightly different approach... my rig is an acer predator with i7 10700/ RTX3070F.E/ 16GB DDR4 3200MH and a reasonable SSD I should be getting atleast 60fps surely
I will edit this after trying your approach 👍
what's your graphics card?
thank you
Great video!!!
This setting will crash MSFS and GPU overheat message
i dont have those folders in my nvidea folder
When you need to take steps like these, you know a game / sim is just not optimized. Still was and is an overrushed release and they should've taken more time.
Thanks
I don't have a DX Cache only a GL cache
You but the rolling cash OFF in the sim
You mean it's better?
Yes, for me having the rolling cache off improves things a little vs having it on brings some stutters. Its worth a test to see what option works best for you
@@twotonemurphy 👍
Still works for SU13
i just have the GLCache and the NvBackend folder
In a recent update, nvidia changed the location. To get the DXcache, go to app data, local low (not local), nvidia, per division driver and DX cache will be there
There are no DXCache und GLCache folders within the NVIDIA folder (Win 11, RTX4090), only one folder named OptixCache..so this video is useless to me.
Nvidia have since made some changes to their install. Start with the Nvidia control panel, manage 3D settings, Global. Turn off Shader Cache. Restart pc. Then navigate to App Data folder and go to either LocalLow or Roaming(away from my pc right now so check both locations) Inside the Nvidia folder you will see current version. Open this folder and it should show all the cache files. Delete them. Go back into Nvidia control panel and turn back on shader cache - that’s it
DO NOT ENABLE LOW LATENCY ULTRA !
Interesting - are you getting better performance with it off? I have tested this somewhat on my pc and have found with it on ultra - it provides the best performance
This is snake oil imo, makes no difference at all for a proper build and optimized computer.
Congrats and good for you ! Enjoy your "proper build and optimized computer"
Perhaps you'd like to make a video defining what a 'proper build and optimised computer' is and how to achieve it - now that would be helpful.
Thank you.
Thank you.