This is Samara's reaction to Renegade Shepard in Mass Effect 3 (RARE Dialogue)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • If you play as Renegade Shepard in both Mass Effect 2 & Mass Effect 3, Samara will have a different reaction to your playthrough than you'd normally have if you play as a Paragon.
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Комментарии • 247

  • @MrHulthen
    @MrHulthen  Год назад +22

    Shepard versus Samara - Who'd win?
    Props to witchkingofriviaa over on Reddit for finding this detail - www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/xzfvog/samara_says_this_if_you_play_as_a_renegade_in_me2/

    • @MMORPGFreaky
      @MMORPGFreaky Год назад +5

      Shepard would win high diff

    • @SparkPlug0777
      @SparkPlug0777 Год назад +3

      My Biotic Shep will beat Samara to a pulp.

    • @N7MD-VV
      @N7MD-VV Год назад +1

      Shepard would win easily

    • @szoszy8916
      @szoszy8916 Год назад +2

      Only way to Samara is survive if try to face-off my Renegade Action Heroin Super Soldier FemShep is runaway while put in stasis
      PS: but Black Window will kill even a BattleMaster Krogen in one shot.

    • @Lilac-and-Gooseberries
      @Lilac-and-Gooseberries Год назад +1

      Samara, but then Jack would be so mad she’d kill her.

  • @mcmahon31619
    @mcmahon31619 Год назад +505

    The reapers have been defeted. New objective: Survive

    • @MP-in3yn
      @MP-in3yn Год назад +13

      Assuming Shepard survives

    • @Skylingale
      @Skylingale Год назад +40

      That'd be the objective for Samara if she tried going after Shepard lol.

    • @naamari
      @naamari Год назад +14

      Seriously though, Samara has shown before that there are loopholes to the Code. She probably would allow Shepard to live after he/she saved the galaxy. Or she'd justify it by going after more malevolent targets, until she expired of old age etc.
      Ultimately I don't see her killing Shepard. And good, because in lore reality she'd probably destroy her/him in combat.

    • @rockrock198
      @rockrock198 Год назад +2

      Mass effect 4 spoiler

    • @miragemain105
      @miragemain105 Год назад +13

      @@naamari honestly I doubt she could, yes she is a powerful biotic but don't forget she is just as Killable as Thane or Wrex, itd be pretty close at best but I can see Shepard coming out on top

  • @ZockerStudiosOfficial
    @ZockerStudiosOfficial Год назад +196

    Samara: Ill kill u if the war is over
    Shepard: *Choose Control Ending
    Also Shepard: I want u to try! *Reaper Sound

    • @gamingwithgav161
      @gamingwithgav161 Год назад +13

      This is too perfect 🤣🤣🤣

    • @finvaly
      @finvaly 7 месяцев назад +16

      Samara: *makes another Crucible*

  • @grunt7917
    @grunt7917 Год назад +273

    Renegade Shepard is different from paragon even by voice tone. More confident, more determined.

    • @arhangeo
      @arhangeo Год назад +48

      Paragon Shepard doesn't need to adjust his tone. He is confident in his strength :)

    • @blaqk_soul
      @blaqk_soul Год назад +29

      That's why Mark Meer is better at renegade and Jennifer Hale as paragon.
      Edit: though Jennifer Hale is frightening as renegade as well. Lol.

    • @grunt7917
      @grunt7917 Год назад +38

      @@blaqk_soul Mark is better at literally everything. Jennifer Hale is a good voice actress etc, etc...
      But her Shepards voice acting... is such a trash. She doesn't even trying. She sound like a middle-aged divorced mother in bad mood 24/7 and frustrated about entire world around her. She's always almost whispering like she's never satisfied and ready to give that *sigh*
      And her renegade "threats" sound hilarious...

    • @zacharymike2543
      @zacharymike2543 Год назад +53

      @@grunt7917 alright back into the pod

    • @grunt7917
      @grunt7917 Год назад +4

      @@zacharymike2543 and who's gonna make me?

  • @miragemain105
    @miragemain105 Год назад +117

    I like how she threatened someone who is more than likely the most dangerous person in the Milky Way

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +15

      considering even a human biotic have not an inch on a full-grown asari....She would slaughter him. She's been fighting all sorts of foes for longer than Shepard's been alive.

    • @segevkrespi8609
      @segevkrespi8609 Год назад +34

      @@hansolav5924 the "all sorts of foes" are regular races that Shepard has faces as well, Shepard also faced much worst enemies (Geth, rachni ect) and he has allies, Samara is alone.. She would die, just like the rest of Shep's enemies

    • @ZayIvory7
      @ZayIvory7 Год назад +13

      I didn’t really realize this the first couple of playthroughs but Sheperd is kind of regarded as a solider with seemingly no equal. They’re literally like the greatest warrior at that point in time. This is why someone like Wrex who is either as old or close to a Matriarchs age tells Grunt about Okeer being dead: Of course he is, Shepards with you, how can he be alive?
      On paper it feels weird because there are a lot of characters you’d think be able to handle Shepard. But basically Shepard knows how to deal with every type of opponent. Matriarchs included, ask Benezia

    • @miragemain105
      @miragemain105 Год назад +13

      @@hansolav5924 Shepards killed stronger opponents than an experienced Matriarch like Samara, he’s killed multiple rogue spectres, Asari spectre included, he killed every eclipse biotic that tried to stop him in Samara’s very recruitment mission, who were also empowered by the red sand there, he’s beaten extreme odds on his own with the Skillian blitz and other fights, also Jack is the strongest human biotic the the lore and with her power she can match Samara’s power as shown in the biotic bubble segment on the collector base, and just like Samara, she is very capable of dying, Shepard isn’t a powerful biotic but he is a soldier with no equal on the battlefield

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +4

      @@miragemain105 I am not aware at the present moment of any murdering aspect of great foes Shepard did Without Help. most significantly the Help of being the Main Character. The world is literally built around them. You cannot expect a world like that providing a proper example of anyone's ability. nevermind that Shepard has also died. from fighting random goons, at that. so yeah. On equal footing, A matriarch would wipe the floor with him one on one. as for the bubble sequence...invalid. If Jack had to struggle to do it, Samara should have managed easily. Jack is not powerful enough to break established lore. Even so, she IS the most powerful human biotic. so even a biotic shepard would not reach her level(ignoring the world-alterations needed to make a 'fun' game(by EA standards) Lore says one thing, game indicates another. By necessity, lore wins. cause if lore fails, why have it at all?

  • @Marshal_Dunnik
    @Marshal_Dunnik Год назад +102

    Maybe this is where the next game picks up: Shep wakes up and immediately has to escape a vengeful Justicar, offended that Shep buttered his toast on two sides, or some trivial violation of the Code.

    • @Crunkles1119
      @Crunkles1119 Год назад +9

      I laughed way to hard at this

    • @Bloodarcher43
      @Bloodarcher43 Год назад +8

      Or she's gonna be one of those people who hate pineapple on pizza...I mean...seriously, why all the hate? People put fish on pizza...

    • @feckingpucky
      @feckingpucky Год назад +3

      @@Bloodarcher43 thank you! There are bigger problems than putting pineapple one pizza. Like anchovies!

    • @ThisIsANameBruh
      @ThisIsANameBruh Год назад +2

      bloody hell, this made me laugh hahaha

  • @hobbes6369
    @hobbes6369 Год назад +172

    And when shepard beats the reapers, this threat seems so hollow in comparison.

    • @MrHulthen
      @MrHulthen  Год назад +8

      it is :p

    • @bubbajoe117
      @bubbajoe117 Год назад +25

      Honestly both responses at this point seem more like a plea than a threat, she does consider you a friend after everything you’ve done for her after all.

  • @arhangeo
    @arhangeo Год назад +100

    Threatening Shepard is a good way to shorten your lifespan :D

    • @seikoshinohara3084
      @seikoshinohara3084 Год назад +5

      Idk I think samara and wrex are the two characters that could beat shepard (i know you can kill wrex in the game but shepard has to survive so I don't count that)

    • @captainunload
      @captainunload Год назад +1

      ​@@seikoshinohara3084
      Smh

    • @turdnuggz69
      @turdnuggz69 Месяц назад

      @@seikoshinohara3084 Shepard would wreck them both 9 times out of 10

  • @mathisntmybestsubject8440
    @mathisntmybestsubject8440 Год назад +69

    I could never make Samara angry at me. She’s too good a friend.

  • @peizz
    @peizz Год назад +67

    Samara have is own vibe like the rest of the crew, I love how she's respectful 👍

    • @MrHulthen
      @MrHulthen  Год назад +27

      Samara: "I will hunt you down & kill you after this. Respectfully."

    • @peizz
      @peizz Год назад

      @@MrHulthen 😂yeah

  • @Death_true
    @Death_true Год назад +16

    I actually chose to do a story path where Shepherd starts out full Paragon for the entirety of the first game but by 2 he slowly becomes a renegade and by 3 he succumbs to it before coming back around to Paragon

  • @Lilac-and-Gooseberries
    @Lilac-and-Gooseberries Год назад +16

    Secret Destroy ending, Shepard takes a breath and Samara shoots him in the face

  • @bigfatcarp93
    @bigfatcarp93 4 месяца назад +4

    "Your reflection does you credit, but it is not enough" god damn that's a good line

  • @jacklambert1521
    @jacklambert1521 Год назад +11

    MrHulthen: "RARE dialogue!"
    Me, who always go 70/30 Renegade: "I've seen this a hundred times."

  • @archival3154
    @archival3154 Год назад +13

    This is the most elegant death threat I've heard

  • @danielpayne1597
    @danielpayne1597 Год назад +6

    Samara: Be good, or I'll end you.
    Shepard: Please do try.

  • @Marxon1134
    @Marxon1134 Год назад +11

    If you pick refusal, she will know.

  • @captainunload
    @captainunload Год назад +12

    This should have been a dialogue option:
    Shepard: Would you really try to kill me?
    Samara: If you violate the code, then it would be necessary.
    *Renegade Option*
    Shepard steps into Samara's personal space and looks down at her until she breaks eye contact.
    Shepard: Do you think you could?

  • @digestivecookie7026
    @digestivecookie7026 Год назад +13

    Interesting, I got this dialogue on a mostly paragon playthrough. That said, I gave the Collector Base to the Illusive Man, which was the only major renegade choice I made (only others were a few prompts here and there)

    • @gibberconfirm166
      @gibberconfirm166 Год назад

      I feel like giving them the Collector Base makes sense for the story? Cerberus is indoctrinated and using Reaper tech in 3, that the Reapers also sort of don't want them using, or something (I believe this is about as far as they thought it through.)

    • @KritoSkywaker
      @KritoSkywaker Год назад +1

      Interesting. My old Paragon MaleShep gave the Collector Base to Cerberus and I still got the other Dialogue. 🤔

    • @digestivecookie7026
      @digestivecookie7026 Год назад +2

      @@KritoSkywaker Maybe it was a “Conrad always thinks you threaten him” thing

    • @KritoSkywaker
      @KritoSkywaker 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@digestivecookie7026
      Tho I tested it out. My Renegon FemShep got this dialogue. I think you have to follow the Renegade Path and also be mostly Renegade during the Monastery Mission.

  • @VAustin89
    @VAustin89 Год назад +6

    So if you choose control ending, Samara will hunt down and kill every reaper just to fulfill the code. Haha

  • @KritoSkywaker
    @KritoSkywaker Год назад +4

    I was looking for the Male Shep version of this! Thank you very much! 😊😊😊 I love the remorse he shows when he responses in the Paragon way. 😊

  • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
    @TheAwesomeDarkNinja Год назад +10

    Not gonna lie, it would've been neat if Samara would actually try to kill you if you were too Renegade and told her through dialogue that you "don't care" or something.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +1

      any such scene would be quite brief. But I figure she'd still wait until after the reapers are done, considering 'the Shepard' is such a vital piece of the war effort. (funny though that they are not in the list on that terminal, though characters like Jack are. would have been nice to know just HOW useful S were for the war. :P)

  • @SuperMurray2009
    @SuperMurray2009 Год назад +8

    I wanted to hear the and "If I did"? Option

    • @sarenarterius6217
      @sarenarterius6217 Год назад

      Not to much change, as you can see in the end of this video

  • @ThisIsANameBruh
    @ThisIsANameBruh Год назад +8

    and as Shepard wakes up from the rubble of the Citadel after the Destroy Ending, an asari reaches out to him. Thinking it's his life partner, Liara, Shepard raises his hand only to to see Samara holding a big ass shotgun on her other hand saying "It's Code-ing Time".

  • @baishihua
    @baishihua Год назад +3

    I must say, while I would never have the heart to upset anyone, these confrontational dialogues are more compelling.

  • @irenek8150
    @irenek8150 Год назад +3

    My Shepard is so renegade that he lets Morinth kill Samara in the 2nd game 😅

  • @christinalischka8539
    @christinalischka8539 Год назад +4

    Samara is the most realxed person in the whole universe!

  • @tiny99990
    @tiny99990 Год назад +5

    Samara" "If you do something verifiably bad, once you kill the millions of million year old inconceivably advanced and intelligent beings I will have to hunt you down and kill you myself"
    Shepherd: "so you believe yourself more powerful than the reapers huh? Shall I sit back and let you kill them all then? no? well then sit down, buckle in, and shut the fuck up"
    We needed a renegade line along those lines to Samara she is one of my favorites but "once the reapers are defeated" is an empty threat at best

  • @blaqk_soul
    @blaqk_soul Год назад +2

    Dishonor your code, dishonor your cow!

  • @stoned_kitty
    @stoned_kitty Месяц назад +1

    Samara mews harder than Shepard.
    -Hackett out.

  • @fCyka
    @fCyka 10 месяцев назад +2

    I only play renegade. It seems someone is not going to survive the suicide mission

  • @ZockerStudiosOfficial
    @ZockerStudiosOfficial Год назад +3

    Is See it already happen: Mass Effect 5 Rise of Justice
    Release 2024

  • @Vesp3r1987
    @Vesp3r1987 Год назад +3

    This is rare... i mean what renegade Shepard stops Samara quitting life 🤣

  • @randomisedlol871
    @randomisedlol871 Год назад +4

    Bruh Shep can wipe the floor with her. Wrex knows his place. So should she. Even Grunt and Jack acknowledge Shep’s superiority which this washed up samurai refuses to do xD

    • @avasti3866
      @avasti3866 7 месяцев назад

      without plot armour of a controlled character, samara and wrex are clearing shepard w ease lmao

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 6 месяцев назад

      @@avasti3866 lol Shepard is borged out beyond recognition with combat implants, there's no way Samara has the slightest chance of defeating him in a straight fight. Asari are very frail and rely on Turians for combat because of this. Wrex is the only one who has a chance against Shepard.
      Those 4 billion credits on project Lazarus weren't just for reviving Shepard, it was also about turning him into a slaughterhouse.

    • @avasti3866
      @avasti3866 6 месяцев назад

      @@xIcarus227 reread my comment, heavy on the plot armour. when it comes to power scaling characters mass effect has very flawed writing, especially in regards to characters like Kai Leng and Shepard. Objectively if we are only looking at the character’s lore - Samara is definitely a character who could beat shepard.

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@avasti3866 I agree that plot armor is sometimes ridiculous in ME (Kai Leng cutscene and first fight are complete facepalm) but Shepard doesn't have obvious instances of plot armor aside from a few reaper confrontations in ME3. It's easy to deduct that Shepard is actually abnormally capable, Liara even suggests that he's the strongest fighter she's ever seen in ME3.
      And what did Samara do exactly to make you think she'd be a good fight? The only things we've seen her be good at is track people down and defeat low-level eclipse mercs and basic reaper forces. And she obviously values infiltration over a straight up fight.
      Not to mention that no justicar have ever managed to defeat a spectre, the barrier of entry for spectres is simply much higher than it is for justicars, an order on the verge of disappearance.
      Again, asari are frail and not strong in a straight fight. She is very ill-equipped to deal with an in-your-face Shep class such as vanguard or soldier. The only classes I could see her beating is Infiltrator, Adept (she's the stronger biotic) or Engineer because these are support-type role - and even that's a pretty big if. Shep is still borged out, he's faster, more durable, and more accurate.

    • @avasti3866
      @avasti3866 6 месяцев назад

      @@xIcarus227 character lore.

  • @jjrj8568
    @jjrj8568 Год назад +1

    Uh, Samara, I won't invite you to my party in the Wards apartment

  • @kadirr8974
    @kadirr8974 9 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly. Renegade Shepard has 2 versions I believe. The Psycho Shep Version and the Sociopath Shep Version. The latter does regret his actions but sees them as necessary to stop the Reapers. Psycho obviously does it out of joy. So picking Samara over Morinth goes already in that direction that he is more of a Sociopath. He respects Samara in her believes but also knows that Honor will keep you from getting the job done. So I think he would accept the consequences if Samara would try to hunt him down but that doesnt mean he would give up. Psycho Shep wouldnt even be talking with her in ME3 bc he would have saved Morinth bc obviously she is way more powerful then Samara.

  • @tywinlannister8015
    @tywinlannister8015 Год назад +9

    I fail to see why this is rare. I play mostly renegade, some are repentant, some are not. All of them got this.
    My canon Shep actually looks forward to the confrontation. Kinda like that Wrex showdown with his Asari Commando friend in his ME1 conversations.
    In my head, that's how it happens.

    • @adamsagov1058
      @adamsagov1058 Год назад +1

      Same here, i always play renegade, reasonable renegade though and still always get this dialogue, it ain't rare at all

    • @absoul112
      @absoul112 Год назад +4

      according to Bioware, not that many people made renegade choices.

    • @smolshroom2893
      @smolshroom2893 Год назад +3

      its kinda rare bc a renegade shep will most likely choose morinth anyways

    • @adamsagov1058
      @adamsagov1058 Год назад

      @@smolshroom2893 Always felt that choosing Morinth was retarded, not renegade, Bioware kinda messed up there.

    • @tywinlannister8015
      @tywinlannister8015 Год назад +4

      @@smolshroom2893 Nah - even as renegade picking Morinth makes little sense.
      I mean Renegade Shep may despise Samara, but she is under Oath to him.
      Judging by how stiff the character is, it's a mighty safe bet to bank on Samara keeping her word - and possibly attempting to murder you after - rather than the daughter you just met that you know spends her life killing people with sex and enjoying a profligate lifestyle.
      Renegade isn't necessarily idiotic.
      I did save Morinth a couple of times, but as a rule of thumb it really isn't the majority of my Renegade runs.

  • @angeloalvarez5520
    @angeloalvarez5520 Год назад +2

    This is why saving Morinth makes sense from a roleplaying perspective.

  • @shamelessmoose
    @shamelessmoose Год назад +1

    This was quite the warning, and with Samara, you only get one. 😅

  • @gamerleo
    @gamerleo Год назад +3

    Thanks for posting this! It is quite intriguing.
    I don’t particularly understand most of ME2 and 3 renegade choices. They don’t seem pragmatic.

  • @edielungreen
    @edielungreen Месяц назад

    Looks like Renegade Shepard made a 50,000 platinum trip to the med bay 😉

  • @manofwarb
    @manofwarb Год назад +2

    Come to think of it, no renegade decision was unjust - nearly all the people you shoot (or allow your teammate to shoot) had it coming. She even advocates deleting the geth heretics even though it is the renegade decision. Zaeed's mission and Overlord DLC being the only exceptions.

  • @stagger225
    @stagger225 Год назад +1

    As Renegade Shep, I upset Joker after he mentions TipTree. I then move on to the Citadel shore leave, Joker is fine, then when it’s finished, suddenly not happy to see his best friend!

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +1

      stems from the 'apartment' not really being part of the game.

  • @awashington8447
    @awashington8447 Год назад +11

    *Samara* is one of a handful of individuals in the entire galaxy that could legitimately kill Shepard......choose wisely 😬

    • @edenarchive4150
      @edenarchive4150 Год назад

      She would put up a good fight but Shepard would kill her pretty easily, as they would every other companion.
      Shepard has no equal and no betters. Period.

    • @assassindancer914
      @assassindancer914 Год назад

      Samara would definitely be her biggest threat, in a direct fight even if Shepard is an Adept or Vanguard, Samara has a whole ton of combat experience on her side.
      High diff for the winner, it would be an intense fight.

    • @captainunload
      @captainunload Год назад

      Only for a female Shepard.

  • @presleybeckley6009
    @presleybeckley6009 Год назад +2

    Considering the shit Shepard has been up against, even head butting a krogan warlord at the bottom of the list, I doubt samara would be a tough fight……

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +3

      *shakes head in despair* Without the protections of being a player character and vital to the war effort, Shepard would be a smear on the pavement in moments, should a centuries-old master biotic choose to fulfill her code in such a manner.

    • @angeloalvarez5520
      @angeloalvarez5520 Год назад

      Samara would destroy Shep lol

    • @quentinhirschfeld9382
      @quentinhirschfeld9382 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@hansolav5924
      You're extremely misinformed about how the verse works.
      Biotic is an ability, but it isn't a 'pay to win' power, in fact, many of the best soldiers, warriors or specters in Mass Effect are non-biotic, because even though it's extremely powerful in the lore, it doesn't out-scale technological powers and most importantly skills.
      There's 0 report of Justicars being able to beat a specter, 0.
      We even see in cinematics powerful biotic needing to flee (Jack in mE3) or being completely annihilated by non-biotic.

    • @quentinhirschfeld9382
      @quentinhirschfeld9382 7 месяцев назад

      @@angeloalvarez5520
      Explain, how please, she is literally featless and doesn't has as much combat skill.

    • @angeloalvarez5520
      @angeloalvarez5520 7 месяцев назад

      @@quentinhirschfeld9382 she has life experience, and more experience fighting 1 on 1. Knowing how to survive in a battlefield isn't the same as a fight between two people. Samara could squash Shep's head like a melon with her biotics. Shep in a room with her is defenseless without a gun. (Pretty sure soldier class is cannon)

  • @hansolav5924
    @hansolav5924 Год назад +2

    I am concerned about all the people who think shep would win a fight with samara. He's just a stupid human, folks. Even a full biotic would not be a patch on her power. In-world, the ONLY thing to keep her from smearing a renegade shep across the floor is them being Vital to the War Effort.

    • @assassindancer914
      @assassindancer914 Год назад

      I think an Adept or Vanguard Shepard could put up a fight, but I think Samara wins Mid/High-diff, she's just too good with a ton of experience under her belt.
      Although I question the ones who think a pure soldier Shepard would just shoot their way to victory, lol.

    • @angeloalvarez5520
      @angeloalvarez5520 Год назад +1

      From a roleplaying perspective it makes sense to let Morinth kill her

    • @quentinhirschfeld9382
      @quentinhirschfeld9382 7 месяцев назад

      @@assassindancer914
      Biotic are overrated even in the lore.
      Some of the best warriors in Mass Effect Lore are non-biotic, not to mention the Turian military commandos are considered as the most dangerous despite absence of biotic within their ranks, Saren for example, most dangerous and best specters, was a non-biotic before Sovereign modified him.

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 6 месяцев назад

      'even a full biotic'
      Biotics aren't a requirement to being a strong fighter. In fact the most successful characters in the ME universe aren't even biotics or are very weak biotics.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 Год назад +2

    I sided with Morinth against Samara. Samara was an absolute liability and would have murdered my paragonagade Shep as soon as her contract was up. True evil is no shades of grey.
    I also shot Wrex and {insert other human Specter} because they drew on me. No one draws on Shep and survives.

    • @carloszestyboy2901
      @carloszestyboy2901 Год назад +3

      I would think a genetically addicted serial killer well known for doing what ever she wants whenever she wants is a much higher liability than Samara 😂🤣

    • @jansenart0
      @jansenart0 Год назад +1

      @@carloszestyboy2901 One can avoid death by just not snu snu'ing Morinth! It's that simple: she only preys on those that 1. get in her pants or 2. get in her way. My shep, who saved her, is NEITHER.
      Meanwhile, Samara over there is like "the MOMENT I'm no longer Oathbound, you're DONE". You could be 100% blue and she'd still find some crime you committed and it's over.
      Morinth, every time.

    • @angeloalvarez5520
      @angeloalvarez5520 Год назад

      ​@@carloszestyboy2901I don't think so. Morinth is grateful you saved her and knows seducing Shep won't work. Samara is far more of a threat

    • @carloszestyboy2901
      @carloszestyboy2901 Год назад +2

      @angeloalvarez5520
      Yeah, not even remotely close. Morinth seduced an entire village into worshipping her as a goddess and then threw them at her mother like cannon fodder. The lore establishes that she feels zero empathy or remorse for what she does. She does it because she’s addicted to the feeling of power. Samara’s code doesn’t discriminate but she outright states that she doesn’t want to know personal details of her targets because it makes it harder to complete the job. Morinth on the other hand is a complete psychopath that enjoys what she does.

    • @angeloalvarez5520
      @angeloalvarez5520 Год назад +2

      @@carloszestyboy2901 Look at this from a self preservation perspective. If you get the option to kill Samara. It means that Shepherd resisted Morinth. Samara will likely kill Shepherd after the Reapers are subdued or destroyed. Obviously Morinth is awful and I like Samara. But this decision makes sense if you think of it as Shepherd covering their own ass. However, I get the feeling that Morinth is actually obsessed with Shepherd and would stalk them. So maybe you're right

  • @rdub9051
    @rdub9051 Год назад +6

    new head cannon established.
    renegade shep chooses to destroy the Reapers, remembers this conversation and decides Samara is too scary and walks into the explosion.
    Edit: words are hard

  • @moondrt
    @moondrt Год назад +1

    Mass Effect 4 foreshadowing, Samara as the main villain, hunting down Shepard

    • @assassindancer914
      @assassindancer914 Год назад +2

      Considering what Shepard does as renegade(Kill Wrex, Mordin, Eve, being an overall psychotic and evil asshole) I would say Shepard's the true villain here.

  • @supereldinho
    @supereldinho Год назад +1

    You know, in a game like Fallout New Vegas your characters will actually voice their disapproval towards specific choices you make -- such as activating a kill satellite for shits and giggles, which will cause your most level-headed companion to outright shout at you in disbelief, followed by him attacking you if you choose to respond like a psychopath.
    Meanwhile, Samara will threaten to kill you for having a high Renegade score, even if said score was accumulated purely through acting like a jackass or limiting your cruelty towards mooks and other meatbags. Not by, you know, doing actually reprehensible things like sabotaging the genophage cure which gave Wrex a legitimate reason to try and kill you.
    And this is why I deliberately had Samara die during the suicide mission. If I'm that irredeemable in her eyes, I might as well act the part.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад

      I consider it a result of EA-bioware not understanding what 'renegade' IS. or perhaps rather being unable to present it properly. As it stands, 'renegade' is more or less just an asshole. There are critters out there MUCH more deserving of a good drubbing. That are not vital to defeating the reapers. so yeah. :)

    • @supereldinho
      @supereldinho Год назад +1

      ​@@hansolav5924 You know what makes this even more ridiculous? It's that in Mass Effect 1, your Paragon/Renegade score was completely inconsequential as that game relied on traditional charisma speech checks -- specifically, your Paragon/Renegade options required you to have high enough Charm/Intimidation skills, which you had to spend skill points to improve. Whether or not you wanted to be a boy scout or an asshole was up to you.
      In ME2 and 3, your Paragon/Renegade choices were tied directly to your karma meter. This meant that rather than not having good enough persuasion skills, the game would lock away dialogue choices from you because you weren't enough of a boy scout or an asshole, essentially punishing you for wanting to play as a morally nuanced character.
      So yes, you're absolutely right: Bioware clearly doesn't know how to properly present the morality of your actions...or rather, they did understand at first but then screwed it up for no particular reason.

  • @Kronosfobi
    @Kronosfobi Год назад +1

    Making Samara angry is hard as betraying Wrex on ME3 or killing Mordin to prevent cure, again on ME3.
    Once out of curiosity, will never do again.

  • @KennyG881
    @KennyG881 Месяц назад

    Frankly, Samara should just be grateful Renegade Shepard didn't kill her instead of Morinth.

  • @guziman1963
    @guziman1963 2 месяца назад

    Its cute that Samara thinks that she can apply her code to aliens or that she would be able to defeat Shepard.

    • @avasti3866
      @avasti3866 5 дней назад

      tbf in the lore she probably could

  • @georgehouliaras7239
    @georgehouliaras7239 Год назад +1

    Samara got nothing on The Biotic God.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад

      you do know human biotics are like asari younglings, right? freaks like Jack might have given her a fight, but not shep.

  • @TheDragon97king
    @TheDragon97king Год назад +1

    i wonder if Shepard is still the lead in mass effect 4 will Samara go after you if your Renegade Shepard

  • @Unknown_Web_User
    @Unknown_Web_User 3 месяца назад

    she is like a mom he never had, i mean i am always choosing earthborn, so

  • @samyagdrsti
    @samyagdrsti Год назад +1

    Samara never makes it this far with my RenShep. The Code's her thing, if she wants to get dramatic in the monastery, whatever. But it would be really interesting to have her try to hunt you down in ME4 if you'd been a bad boy. I might even keep her alive just for that.

  • @JenMaxon
    @JenMaxon Год назад +1

    Eeeek! I would never cross her.

  • @ShadowNyte96
    @ShadowNyte96 Год назад

    I'm surprised my Renegon Shep didn't get this conversation with Samara, I was pretty sure she was going to chew me out, but I guess still curing the genophage was enough to not trigger this one

  • @BroncoBoys-vm3lp
    @BroncoBoys-vm3lp Год назад +1

    Hey MrHulten,I know this is kinda a weird question but do you think that mass effect and dead space could have some connection?

  • @chrissmityyy
    @chrissmityyy 8 месяцев назад

    I got this on my most recent playthrough. Don't do it, Samara. Don't... 😂

  • @Sovereign1992
    @Sovereign1992 Год назад +1

    I always got this outcome 😮

  • @marcmichaud1643
    @marcmichaud1643 Год назад

    I guess I'm not most people as my Canon Shepperd is full Renegade. My first paragon playthrough was my second LE playthrough.
    Didn't feel natural. Renegade for Life 😉

  • @thearisen7301
    @thearisen7301 Год назад +1

    I always found it odd that Samara is like this with a renagade Shep considering she's pretty renegade herself but I guess she does say your actions in ME2 are justified.

  • @dusknoir667
    @dusknoir667 Год назад +1

    Oh please, I couldn't stand paragon Shepard. I finished the trilogy 7 times as a renegade. In my first playthrough I didn't even have this conversation because Samara shot her head earlier. :V

  • @irsshill4502
    @irsshill4502 7 месяцев назад

    Would Samara prefer the galaxy be oppressed by Krogans?

  • @windwind3170
    @windwind3170 9 месяцев назад

    I find it hilarious how impotent and arbitrary the Renegade/Paragon system is. I did a full Renegade gauge filled playthrough of the trilogy but saved the rachni queen, saved Wrex, Maelon's Data, cured Genophage, brokered peace between Geth and Quarians but still got this line from Samara just because I sometimes act like a dick towards my enemies. Hell, I never even once punched Kallisa.

  • @Dichotomic_King
    @Dichotomic_King 7 месяцев назад

    I love this thumbnail

  • @MiniMinecon2006
    @MiniMinecon2006 Год назад

    That thumbnail tho

  • @chadking375
    @chadking375 Год назад +2

    Samara threatens a vicious sociopath with a trend of backstabbing and bloodthirsty streak a galaxy wide, respect.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +1

      He's just a human. She's dealt with worse more times than shep has years.

    • @chadking375
      @chadking375 Год назад +1

      @@hansolav5924 No, she really hasn’t. A full-Renegade can be a genocidal sociopath responsible for numerous extinctions.
      Your blueberry stands no chance against John Shepard, she can also be killed by him btw.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +1

      @@chadking375 Only because he's a player character. Without that, he'd be helpless.

    • @chadking375
      @chadking375 Год назад

      @@hansolav5924 What is wrong with you? You are all over this comment section, simping for an asari skank.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +1

      @@chadking375 I'm using the facts of the world. nothing else. given the right conditions, the Great Shepard could be killed by a spring-loaded rock to the eye. Without the protection of being a player character, they would be at the mercy of any Asari matriarch.

  • @DarthDrizzle
    @DarthDrizzle Год назад

    that face though
    what I look like when I see pizza

  • @PASSPORTKING2106
    @PASSPORTKING2106 3 месяца назад

    I blame her Ardaht-Eilish daughter......iykyk 😂

  • @jv3198
    @jv3198 Год назад +4

    I posted this just a couple of days ago on mass effect reddit.

    • @MrHulthen
      @MrHulthen  Год назад +4

      Yup, I added your thread as a reference above ^^

  • @alx1431
    @alx1431 Год назад +1

    Wait how exactly does that get triggered? I usually play rather renegade, Liike enough to get max renegade in 2 but never got this.

  • @Babyjoker2222
    @Babyjoker2222 Год назад

    @MrHulthen Does this dialogue prevent you from romancing her in the citadel dlc even if u romanced her in #2? I tried save editing my renegade points away right before this conversion and still got it. Worried that it'll effect the romance later on when i roll the dlc.

  • @ArveEriksson
    @ArveEriksson Год назад

    Samara best Jedi of the F-U group.

  • @charlierhodes7271
    @charlierhodes7271 Год назад +1

    I feel like I've missed so many interactions because I get everyone killed

    • @nottelling4828
      @nottelling4828 Год назад

      Dude, you have to run Shore Leave DLC with every crew member at least once during your play throughs. After that, you can jerk around with all kinds of combinations.

  • @Moeflyer6213
    @Moeflyer6213 9 месяцев назад +2

    I rather be a Paragade or Renegon instead of being pure Renegade.

  • @ididntdoit3924
    @ididntdoit3924 Год назад

    How exactly is this "rare"? Just be a renegade Shep and she'll say this every time. This is her standard dialog. Nothing rare about it.

  • @thestrong2401
    @thestrong2401 Год назад

    Can Samara still be invited in the citadel dlc if you're renagade?

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Год назад

    Paragon is best

  • @demonic_myst4503
    @demonic_myst4503 Год назад +1

    to be fair renegade by m3 wasnt evil enough to violate her code renegade is just soldeir get the j9b done nothing in renegade isnt done by the justicars themselfs

    • @alx1431
      @alx1431 Год назад +2

      Honestly only me1 renegade shepard is a real ass. Not always but very often. Me2 is when the renegade path gets rally good and actually deserves the word renegade.

    • @Terror_Official
      @Terror_Official Год назад

      You can sabotage the genophage cure while Wrex is still alive, then shoot him later. Followed by letting the Quarians die to the Geth, even if you have the option to save both, letting Tali die. You can also shoot Kaiden/Ashley during the Cerberus citadel invasion if you intentionally never talk to them when you're on the Citadel. You can also ignore the bomb mission on Tuchanka and let that blow up. Many ways to do vile things, but not many are easily done accidentally especially if you play straight through ME1-ME3.

    • @demonic_myst4503
      @demonic_myst4503 Год назад

      @@Terror_Official the quarians are the agressorss thats like saying if your friends with hitler lettingt the nazxis die is bad just because your friends with one doesnt make them the good guys
      their is actual reasons to sabatage the geniphage and wrex attacks u self defence isnt unethical
      kaidan and ashley pull a gun on u and are about let the cpouncil die your not oblighated to talk to somone

    • @demonic_myst4503
      @demonic_myst4503 Год назад

      @@Terror_Official you can ignore any mission n any game basicly if it not the main thats not a talk on ethics plus the ethical nature of obligation to act is unethical in itself

    • @Terror_Official
      @Terror_Official Год назад

      @@demonic_myst4503 I don't quite follow if you're agreeing with the statement or not. The first three of my comment are non-optional as they're related to main missions. Yet none of the choices are required, as you have to have aligned previous decisions to reach that point in the Genophage line, the death of the Quarians on Rannoch, or the death of the Virmire Survivor in both ME1 and ME3. They are choices you make, even if it came about by ignoring something previously, same with the bomb mission on Tuchanka. The forgetful or the non-perceptive can breeze past that mission when the game makes it a big deal to go do it. By ignoring it a decision is made, by you or the game itself. Is this what you're pointing to?

  • @vickonstark7365
    @vickonstark7365 Год назад

    👍🏼

  • @aeli999
    @aeli999 Год назад +1

    I like most of the companions too much to ever go renegade. However, if there were an airlock option, Ashley and Alenko would have gone bye bye long before Virmire. lol I don't mind the occasional renegade interrupt though. 😏

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад

      Alenko, I get. Ashley, tells me you have no understanding of her character. chances are you never bothered to learn her family's history, far less her own. A racist asshole, she is not.

    • @aeli999
      @aeli999 Год назад

      @@hansolav5924 I didn't say anything about her being racist. I said I don't like the character.

    • @hansolav5924
      @hansolav5924 Год назад +1

      @@aeli999 And I see no other reason for that attitude. she is no more boring or uninspired than any other team-mate. The one thing drawing her down compared to the others is that she's a human being. it's always been tough for such to measure up to aliens. :)

    • @aeli999
      @aeli999 Год назад

      @@hansolav5924 So I'm not allowed to have my own opinion because it doesn't agree with yours? Whatever. I do not like Ashley Williams the character. Get over it. I also can't stand Cora and lots of people seem to like her. My opinion. Feel free to disagree, but also feel free to quit being a jerk to me because you don't agree with me. Go pester someone else because I'm done.

  • @lingtheking
    @lingtheking Год назад +1

    Meh

  • @SethTheProphet
    @SethTheProphet Год назад +34

    The next Mass Effect game will be Shepard struggling to survive Samara's wrath.

    • @chatterycasque9594
      @chatterycasque9594 Год назад +2

      Samara: Shepard, I’m glad to see you survived the war.
      Shepard: I’m glad to see you’re alright as well.
      Samara: …
      Shepard: …
      Samara: *biotics start glowing*
      Shepard: *starts running*

    • @DinkLover69
      @DinkLover69 Год назад

      If only we got an ending where Shepard lived mostly fine, and we got to play through the aftermath a bit doing missions for situations like this. :p