@@jerimayavondristen9955 Mark's deal also didn't went through about 40℅-50% from all season, it came from his own mouth. Every sharks including Barbara, Kevin, Lori, Daymond and Robert also does the same, half of their deal failed because of due diligence or the sharks and enterpreneur changed their mind. You need to search a lot and can find the news easily on RUclips from their interview. Especially never trust Mark's fan because they don't want to admit this fact. They even created a hoax just to boost Mark's popularity on comment section. Edit : Robert is the worst? Robert and Mark joined together for some deal after the show. The worst shark is Daymond because he is limited to licensing and contigency. Barbara always out? Definitely you didn't watch from season 1 because she is the second most successfull shark after Lori, even Mark admit her instinct.
nah, she was the stupid and disrespectful one to Robert and her business partners. Kevin did good and offered a great deal. Robert was giving her money, Kevin expertise in that specific area has a value.
@@DOC_951- No one told her to give up 43% of her business. That’s her own fault for making that decision. Just like it was her fault not taking the offer Robert gave her, like Kevin was gonna give a better offer than what she asked for 🤣
Usually, don’t like it when sharks don’t give entrepreneurs a chance to hear other shark’s offers. But in this case, Robert gave her exactly what she offered which happens very rarely on this show and she should have said yes without hearing other sharks. Because there’s no way that the other sharks would have offered her better than the deal she came in with in the first place
@@katlis , no don’t think anyone really likes Kevin as a shark. Because when you see most of the episodes, when a few sharks make an offer, they don’t usually go with Kevin because they know he’s greedy and not the best business partner. For example, if Mark, Lori, and Kevin made an offer on a product, no one would choose Kevin, let’s be honest
@@jakesapplepro5823 Kevin is a MUCH better choice for this type of business. What can Robert even offer her to help her business? Hes a digital security systems guy, not a food/beverage guy.
At that point, the only people in were Kevin and Robert, so taking that risk of Robert going out meant she wanted Kevin more. He just made the wrong offer
@@jakesapplepro5823Lots of wouldas in your reasoning. Between Robert and Kevin Robert was the better shark and he had an offer. She was right for wanting to hear it.
Kevin is freaking legendary 😂😂😂 As an entrepreneur, you should know when to act. Robert gave her exactly what she wanted. She had no reason to "hear other offers".
@@JohnBonello3 If you read the room, you would've seen that some sharks weren't sold on what she was selling, that's why they were out. When she got the offer from Robert, only Kevin was left...two sharks are not going to start a bidding war. She had no leverage. She got exactly what she came in asking for and let it slip through her fingers. To be honest, Kevin's offer was generous knowing that she had no other offers.
Robert really loved it. That spoke to him and he was passionate about it. She saw Kevin and thought wine business and more sales. Kevin knew if he asked for over 6% that she wouldn't do it.
Except 3 sharks were already out and Robert offered her exactly what she came in and asked and still wanted to hear Kevin out. That’s very disrespectful.
Shark Tank has been going on for many years. There are 3 rules. 1) Accept any offer that has been offered to exactly what you asked for.. 2) Do Not bring any famous Celebrity in the tank 3) Do not act or say who favorit Sharks are
5) dont let kevin bullshit you in a deal 6) always remember that barbara is gonna go back in and for that reason she will be out 7) always try to get a deal with mark
He’ll regret it. Investors were paying 37 million value and he had a chance to get in for I believe 12% that. She didn’t need the money 😂. She wanted exposure
Yup, she wanted a deal with Mark, Laurie or Kevin i'm sure. she came in with a super generous valuation and then all said no so she was right to walk away.
anyone who's ever seen an episode would know that kevin would give a "sharkier" offer. it's really rare for entrepreneurs to get exactly what they sought and her not taking that was a major L
At least her being on the show gave her exposure. I have to applaud Daymond for saying that Kevin cost her the deal with Robert. I think it is only fair for her to hear all of the offers. Hopefully she is thriving and that Robert could gone back in that deal.
Now every "exact offer" is the best deal. Remember that they are only also asking for the deal but also looking for specific sharks too. The only thing she does wrong is not knowing how greedy Kevin is.
@@j-emcee4420how stupid to say that and you obviously lack the understanding of her offer which valued the sharks extraordinarily high compared to her other investors, they acknowledged just that themselves …she came to close but wanted to listen to all deals - the way they started treating entrepreneurs is horrible, to not allow them to hear other offers, which is more than fair and again realistic in the real world of pitching to investors…BUT she very likely also knows that robert rarely closes deals after show, the majority fall through, so she is just as well off as if she would have excepted roberts offer, since he likely would never have closed it - he’s ajoke even being on the show for the amount of offers he eventually pulled out of.
Honestly glad Robert retracted his offer. He gave her the exact deal she came in asking for, he liked the product, liked her, and she still turned him down. Lesson of the day: Don't be greedy.
no, Kevin used the leverage on the table. Kevin didn't make her lose anything, she chose that for herself. She got greedy and wanted to hear all the offers when the offer she wanted is already on the table. If you need 100% info before making a decision, you're not a good decision maker. This is why you set goals, she set goals and ignored it. She gave Kevin leverage by not accepting Richard's offer. It's really simple but most people can't think straight and too into themselves and what they can get (ex. the grass is always greener on the other side).
I don’t think she wanted Robert she is not stupid she knows Kevin 99% of the time makes crappy offers if Kevin made the same offer I think she would have taken it unless she came on the show just for exposure
I think she was hoping for Kevin to match Robert's offer and she would have accepted that because he's heavily in that space. Robert's a nice guy but not worth the 5% on this particular deal. The entrepreneur did everything right and has no regrets. Kevin missed a good opportunity.
@@sssbattleaxeI think her mistake was coming offering a percentage that she doesn't have much of a wiggle room beyond it. If she came offering 2.5% Kevin would have asked for 5 or 7 not 10 which she would accept unlike the 10. It's all psychology. Her mistake was coming with an unbudgeable percentage
I disagree, I'm sure he has lots of contacts and can make her product blow up even more. She probably needs advise and mentorship on a business level, and that's something anyone between the sharks could have given her.
Almost every single food or drink pitch, it's like clockwork Robert: Oh WOW Mark: How much does it cost you to make and how much do you sell it for? Kevin: How many calories in each one? Lori: I love you, but..
The point is not that Robert offered her what she asked for. The point is that he cornered her and that type of manipulative tactic is never to be trusted. I have encountered car salesmen who use that tactic all the time. Always be willing to walk away. That is the power of negotiation. Never allow anyone to corner you. That means they have power over you. You are not equals in that transaction.
Yesssss! 👏👏👏 his huge ego couldn't have been louder. She will be just fine and one day, he will probably regret HIS greed. (Not hers, like everyone keeps implying.)
She should have counter rober with 2.5% for 125K and ask him if he would take kevin in for the other half on that deal that would have gave her an opportunity to listen to kevins offer without losing robert
lol why, did you not understand the situation or just regurgitate what you saw in previous episodes. Kevin wanted 10% at 250k, why would he take 25% of that and still have to pay 50% and still have to put in the same effort, he's getting less for more. She is there for the expertise, not the dollar value. Kevin wasn't willing to sell his expertise for less than 10% equity, the dollar value meant nothing other than sign of good faith. Neither party cared about the $$$ value if you didn't get it, the Shark wanted equity, the girl didn't want to give up 10%. She should have offered Kevin 5% for 125k if anything to salvage her deal or to make Richard pay for his aggressiveness.
There should be like a final jeopardy type offers where all sharks offer or dont offer at the same time with a buzzer. So many people get screwed because of the sharks' egos, or they're the last offer standing.
She should’ve realized Kevin would in no way give an offer at 5% 😅 would’ve agreed with her to wait if was for Mark or Lori. I usually don’t like ultimatums, but side with Robert on this!
well it was her fault for not countering. She rejected it without a counter offer. She could have offered 6% for less money if Kevin is offering expertise. IMO she could have done it for $0 for 3% equity if Kevin just brought expertise. She just got greedy and tried to get more than what she asked for.
@@PWCDNshe was absolutely not greedy, with a very generous valuation already. I think the wrong move she made was offering a baseline amount which left her with no room for negotiation. Every bit of equity she gives out puts her closer to lesser than 50%. Offering Kevin 6% ain’t gonna change his mind.
@@That_one_introvert. Well if Robert’s ego wasn’t so big he would have landed that deal. Just go look at the ‘Better Bedder’ pitch. Look how Lori, secures her deal, doesn’t pressure the contestants, is passionate about the product and wants to be a partner. Mark sometimes does the “say yes now” but Mark does it out of passion and for the benefit for the entrepreneur. Daymond is like Robert, who gets butt hurt and acts immature when they don’t get what they want. Plus now with the Daymond allegations.
There's no way she could have made an informed decision without hearing Kevin's offer, even though it did not go her way I'm glad she decided to hear him out.
In the real world you don't always have the option to "hear all offers". Take the risk and lose your other deals. Was a dumb move on her part cuz kevin NEVER woulda went to the 7% or below she wanted.
@@limz3312she didn't want money, but a mentor + connections that's why she is selling them her company as a 5 million valuation instead of a 40 million valuation as the other investors.
Fair play that she wanted to hear all offers - buuuuut - when you get offered exactly what you asked for, wanting to hear more can be perceived as greedy. Although, I probably would have done the same tbh. All the best to her though, she seems like she is on the right path to a successful future.
Actually, the sharks are greedy themselves and like greed. If the other partner is greedy, they'll try to make as much money as possible for the company. Greed is a plus as long as you can keep a straight head in terms of re investing capital into the business for further growth and stability.
if she watched Shark tank, everyone knows Kevin is a risk if he's the last one to speak lol. You have no leverage if your business generates a loss, especially with guys like Kevin.
Of course she knew that he would be aggressive. She literally says it and people still don't register. She had the decency/culture to listen everyone out, regardless if that would be in her direct interest. Kevin could have had (bad) feedback to give too
I hate how the u.s. shark tank doesn't let them hear all the offers and the "shot clock" and stuff. The show in other countries don't do that crap. I am glad to see that she is still doing well at $7 million a year. I'm proud of her for being a strong woman and not begging Robert for a deal like I've seen others do.
She was never going to make a deal, played them like a fiddle. She cant go from 40 mill evaluation to 10 million. I dont think she expected them to give her the exact offer.
@@jerimayavondristen9955 I don't think Mark is even that great of a partner. I went back and followed up on so many of his deals and majority have went out of business. He seems to me too occupied with his other business and will just write off the loss. I would take Laurie any day of the week over him.
she did the right thing , no she didn't get a deal , but she did the right thing to listen to Kevins offer. if Robert were not the first to make an offer , then he would not like if she would not listen any other offers (i.e. Robert would have been second offer ) What Robert should have done was to re-offer , after hearing Kevins greedy offer.
Honestly Roberts No loss . The fact that he did that meant he really didn’t care that much & he’s not the best known to close post the show . She did the right thing 💯 %
I get what u’ll are saying but he doesn’t have the reputation of closing the deal post the show . . . So she wanted to weigh her options at times it’s not just about the Money you might prefer 1 mentor over another . . . Any ways her company her decision
0% or No/Low is such an interesting category. However the big names are putting product on the shelves, even if they are not really making money, they want to stop new comers getting that shelf space / building a name. I think some of that is why Kevin did offer. He wants add some no/low to his portfolio, future proof it.
@@dancingmeerkat2078 exactly. If you go to her website, it’s even more egregious. Half pint of the juice and 4 tiny cans of mediocre seltzers for $50. This woman is delusional if she thinks her company will succeed.
@@thebastardgift Its about TV and entertainment. No one in business is operating like that lol, they want to make money more than have their ego stroked, you usually submit an offer, and others may as well, and the seller may take months to look at every offer and pick the best one. You know the saying "its not personal its just business"? Thats how most people operate, the sharks are just being dramatic to try and make the show more interesting, in their private business dealings 0 chance they do things this way.
@@jerimayavondristen9955 , dramatic? I don't think so because the events are real, lifechanging, educational, and there is nothing like Shark Tank on TV because its real. We disagree and ta-da yet we both survive.😊
Kevin would have definitely been an ideal partner for her, he is in that sort of business already so I understand why she wanted to hear his offer. I feel like if Robert loved it that much he would have stayed in, especially this drink seems really good because I myself hate alcohol especially the taste.
@@ghs57 I honestly think why hes the most willing to just call out a company/give the hard facts. This show for him at this point is to just not be bored. No deal is ever going to give him any more "life changing" money
On some episodes Robert is so dramatic like this one, on others he stands for the entrepreneur. I don't get why she couldn't hear all the offers? There is several investors in 1 room, then she could of thought about it and accepted Roberts offer. It just shows Robert didn't really love it that much.
To those saying the sharks are "abusive" or "controlling": its one thing when ALL the sharks immediately argue at each other and cutting each other off to make an offer. You know you have some control. But if the other sharks arent chomping at the bit, and only one or maybe two sharks are offering, you better take that first offer you get.
He wasn't willing to bend and even think about letting her hear other offers while still have his on the table to she can get a better picture of the two and maybe make a counter offer. He talked himself outta a great product, yes Kevin is greedy as hell, but he technically was the right partner for her being the wine business. He can have best of both worlds and offer them too while probably upping the price along the way.
The second you make it so there's only one offer, you're screwed because that Shark knows you have no options. Robert matched her ask and that should have been it
She didn’t want a deal just the free Shark Tank advertising for the rest of eternity. Think about it. Everyone knows Robert is the nicest. She didn’t even try to ask Robert after he said he’s out. She came in there not wanting a deal, was stunned when Robert gave her exactly what she wanted because that rarely happens. She got a huge life line when Kevin was willing to make her an offer. If she wouldn’t have accepted Robert’s offer, again, exactly what she asked for, Mark, Kevin and even Robert would’ve roasted her all the way back to Paree
I'd never make deals with Robert when you read how he acts behind the scenes. And what retail connections Robert got? No-brainer hear what Mr. Wonderful had to offer because there is all retail connections ready. Too bad he asked too much.
She absolutely did the right thing, why would you not want to hear all the options before you make a deal. Robert as an investor, why would you want to invest in an entrepreneur who doesn't look at all the deals on table and see whats right for the company.
If you gonna be pressured by your business partner to take their decision immediately without them given you the chance to analyze it then thats a bad partner in the first place
Why would it be a bad partner? As if the partner wouldn't want to make money by default because they put a timer on the deal. You're not very bright. This is not two individuals with a 50% share each that see each other at the office daily.
Reminded me of the fox walking home with a bone, and he walks by the river and see a bigger bone. And he lets go of the bone to get the bigger bone. Not realising the bone he saw was an reflection of what he let go off. 😢 Same as her story, she had the bone and thought she’d get a bigger one from Kevin. Anyone who knows Kevin knows he doesn’t get out of bed for 5% what was she thinking 😂
@@Lommy9999 Well she had a big set and she was impressive and she should of just spoke up and said that to him, rather than having a deal on the table and losing it knowing leaving wouldn’t get out of bed for 5%
I think she just wanted the publicity. Robert offered exactly what she asked for. Then Kevin jumped in and she wanted to hear his offer despite the ultimatum. Thing is if anyone has seen the show Kevin is the most aggressive hagler there, he generally asks for something like 60% or more equity than the presenter is offering and some type of royalty in perpetuity at the price they are looking to get. She probably knew Kevins offer wouldn't be better.
This product is trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, we live in the golden age of sparkling waters/sparkling juices. I've never had more alternatives when I take days off drinking.
Exactly. And do grown adults really feel social pressure from other adults about not drinking? This isnt highschool. Adults dont peer pressure each other. Everyone minds their own business and doesnt care about what youre drinking
or possibly powerplay and sometimes a shark really wants the deal so offers the asking price they came with. nobody bats an eye when mark or kevin does the same thing in haste
@@jaygunny8402 possibly not the shark she wants maybe, don’t look at it from just his point of view, most of them come for Mark, Lori or Kevin, even I won’t like to work with Robert
Yep, she had no intention of doing the deal she claimed to want...the whole 'I value you and it's coming out of my equity' speech was a nonsense....her backers told her to get on the show for a free boost in advertising....
@@nicholasbogosian5420 she was offered Exactly what she asked for. She didn’t negotiate with Kevin to try to win him over. She ONLY heard his offer because she thought it would be better for her. AKA more money in her pocket. Why are you even arguing for her? It’s obvious.
How petty of Robert to cut his deal just because she refused to play his manipulative little game, and how slimey of Kevin to push her out of the offer from Robert only to make her that sorry excuse for an offer. Shame all around.
She should have tried to counter with Kevin and tell him 5% non-dillutable shares. A major reason Kevin asks for 10% is that the other big sharks in her company will compete and dillute his holding.
She was being fair to the sharks. The first order of business is to get the best deal. Robert showed his true colors. She found nobody who would have committed for the sake of the product themselves. She left with the same good fortune she had coming in.
There is no such thing as "being fair" in business. Robert did what was right for him and she did what she felt was right. In the end when a shark offers your ask, you should take it. There was 0% chance kevin would have ever hit the 7% or under she wanted.
@@fafafooey4126 Heehaw, would you like a q tip? 👂 my response was backed by what she actually said in the end. Now if you want to give me some good advice about being an honestly dishonest business person, try giving a presentation yourself next time and tell your stakeholders nothings fair and see how far you get. 🐴
She really thought Kevin would give her a better offer than what she actually came in asking for? Marks right, she should have said yes to Robert
Roberts the worst shark for her anyway, i'm sure he was last on her list of people she wanted a deal with. I'd have passed as well
Robert sucks.
@@jerimayavondristen9955 Mark's deal also didn't went through about 40℅-50% from all season, it came from his own mouth. Every sharks including Barbara, Kevin, Lori, Daymond and Robert also does the same, half of their deal failed because of due diligence or the sharks and enterpreneur changed their mind.
You need to search a lot and can find the news easily on RUclips from their interview. Especially never trust Mark's fan because they don't want to admit this fact. They even created a hoax just to boost Mark's popularity on comment section.
Edit : Robert is the worst? Robert and Mark joined together for some deal after the show. The worst shark is Daymond because he is limited to licensing and contigency. Barbara always out? Definitely you didn't watch from season 1 because she is the second most successfull shark after Lori, even Mark admit her instinct.
She probably knew that Roberts deals usually fall through, I'd pass him right up too
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Kevin is always playing TF out of them all with a smile on his face, what a savage
nah, she was the stupid and disrespectful one to Robert and her business partners.
Kevin did good and offered a great deal. Robert was giving her money, Kevin expertise in that specific area has a value.
@@WJACOTTnot when she would lose her majority stock.
What does TF mean??
of a worthless company ... Let see if their current partners and her with all his stock can pull that failed company out of the sink
@@DOC_951- No one told her to give up 43% of her business. That’s her own fault for making that decision. Just like it was her fault not taking the offer Robert gave her, like Kevin was gonna give a better offer than what she asked for 🤣
Robert: I was born at a young age
Lori: QVC
Kevin: Royalties
Barbara: I love it but I'm out
Mark: You're a product not a business
I love this
Daymon: You’re stealing money from the poor
@@connorwhite9716I swesrr
Lesson learned. I’m actually surprised Robert offered that
He would’ve done something slimey back stage he never sticks to his word look up the statistics on him pulling out of deals or changing them.
@@conormcgregor8451 womp womp
@@joshblank1 womp womp what little nerd boy? idc this isn’t my deal im just stating a fact.
Robert pulled out because of his ego though, so... yeah actually glad she didn't go with him
@@willus259robert gave her what she wanted then taught her a lesson 😂
Usually, don’t like it when sharks don’t give entrepreneurs a chance to hear other shark’s offers. But in this case, Robert gave her exactly what she offered which happens very rarely on this show and she should have said yes without hearing other sharks. Because there’s no way that the other sharks would have offered her better than the deal she came in with in the first place
Perhaps she thought Kevin would've been a better shark, as he's in the wine/beverage industry. Robert is more of a tech guy.
@@katlis , no don’t think anyone really likes Kevin as a shark. Because when you see most of the episodes, when a few sharks make an offer, they don’t usually go with Kevin because they know he’s greedy and not the best business partner. For example, if Mark, Lori, and Kevin made an offer on a product, no one would choose Kevin, let’s be honest
@@jakesapplepro5823 Kevin is a MUCH better choice for this type of business. What can Robert even offer her to help her business? Hes a digital security systems guy, not a food/beverage guy.
At that point, the only people in were Kevin and Robert, so taking that risk of Robert going out meant she wanted Kevin more. He just made the wrong offer
@@jakesapplepro5823Lots of wouldas in your reasoning. Between Robert and Kevin Robert was the better shark and he had an offer. She was right for wanting to hear it.
Kevin is freaking legendary 😂😂😂
As an entrepreneur, you should know when to act.
Robert gave her exactly what she wanted.
She had no reason to "hear other offers".
maybe she likes robert better
@@nikhilbehere9661if she liked Robert better she would’ve taken the deal, instead of trying to hear Kevin.
Why not? You have to be fair and listen to everybody.
Ridiculously simplistic point of view. Often, in the right market, many houses are sold way above asking price. This has happened in the Den as well
@@JohnBonello3
If you read the room, you would've seen that some sharks weren't sold on what she was selling, that's why they were out.
When she got the offer from Robert, only Kevin was left...two sharks are not going to start a bidding war.
She had no leverage. She got exactly what she came in asking for and let it slip through her fingers.
To be honest, Kevin's offer was generous knowing that she had no other offers.
Robert really loved it. That spoke to him and he was passionate about it. She saw Kevin and thought wine business and more sales. Kevin knew if he asked for over 6% that she wouldn't do it.
She was very polite throughout the pitch
Hopefully she can pull this off and prove kevin was wrong
Except 3 sharks were already out and Robert offered her exactly what she came in and asked and still wanted to hear Kevin out. That’s very disrespectful.
No she was wrong.
Yes, but low key she's greedy and you can tell she uses her good GIRL looks to get what she wants.
Why prove kevin wrong ...the deal was on the table and got greedy....
@@j0epark1it’s disrespectful not to let people hear all the offers, robert is the worse shark of all, I woulda pass him too
Shark Tank has been going on for many years. There are 3 rules. 1) Accept any offer that has been offered to exactly what you asked for.. 2) Do Not bring any famous Celebrity in the tank 3) Do not act or say who favorit Sharks are
4) Know your numbers
@@thebastardgift That's rule #1
5) dont let kevin bullshit you in a deal
6) always remember that barbara is gonna go back in and for that reason she will be out
7) always try to get a deal with mark
@@sr-er1ip , I certainly stand corrected. 🙂
8) Never bring a mime if your target shark is Mark
Kevin didn’t cost her the deal, he taught her a big lesson in the sales industry.
He’ll regret it. Investors were paying 37 million value and he had a chance to get in for I believe 12% that. She didn’t need the money 😂. She wanted exposure
he for sure costed her everything. he stole her dreams with his empty words. how dare you!
@@TheLirJEt86 exposure is always good but in this case I doubt it was of a big effect
People are saying she didn't really want a deal but she did, she just wanted to see what Kevin had to say because he's in the space heavily.
Dumb move
I agree! She lowered the valuation because she wants the right partner, and Robert is not the right partner that's why she wants to hear Kevin.
Yup, she wanted a deal with Mark, Laurie or Kevin i'm sure. she came in with a super generous valuation and then all said no so she was right to walk away.
She was wrong in the first place to refuse Robert's offer. Not a smart move.
anyone who's ever seen an episode would know that kevin would give a "sharkier" offer. it's really rare for entrepreneurs to get exactly what they sought and her not taking that was a major L
I love her vision. I hate when upscale & fine-dining restaurants only have alcoholic drinks available.
At least her being on the show gave her exposure. I have to applaud Daymond for saying that Kevin cost her the deal with Robert. I think it is only fair for her to hear all of the offers. Hopefully she is thriving and that Robert could gone back in that deal.
That was the purpose, she didn't want a deal. She wanted exposure
Now every "exact offer" is the best deal. Remember that they are only also asking for the deal but also looking for specific sharks too. The only thing she does wrong is not knowing how greedy Kevin is.
''costed her''
@@j-emcee4420 that's dumb to say, with her valuation being really below what she offer to other people.
@@j-emcee4420how stupid to say that and you obviously lack the understanding of her offer which valued the sharks extraordinarily high compared to her other investors, they acknowledged just that themselves …she came to close but wanted to listen to all deals - the way they started treating entrepreneurs is horrible, to not allow them to hear other offers, which is more than fair and again realistic in the real world of pitching to investors…BUT she very likely also knows that robert rarely closes deals after show, the majority fall through, so she is just as well off as if she would have excepted roberts offer, since he likely would never have closed it - he’s ajoke even being on the show for the amount of offers he eventually pulled out of.
Honestly glad Robert retracted his offer. He gave her the exact deal she came in asking for, he liked the product, liked her, and she still turned him down.
Lesson of the day: Don't be greedy.
It's never a good sign in the tank whenever you hear an over exaggerated "OHHHH" from Mark 😭
timestamp v'//?
Or the times he has called a small percent "gold diggers, etc".
7:18 and 7:19 right after she said that she wants to hear all offers on the table, he also said "ouh" when Robert said he's out.
Kevin made her lose her deal for no good reason. He knew very well she could not give 10%. That would put her below 50%.
no, Kevin used the leverage on the table. Kevin didn't make her lose anything, she chose that for herself. She got greedy and wanted to hear all the offers when the offer she wanted is already on the table. If you need 100% info before making a decision, you're not a good decision maker. This is why you set goals, she set goals and ignored it. She gave Kevin leverage by not accepting Richard's offer. It's really simple but most people can't think straight and too into themselves and what they can get (ex. the grass is always greener on the other side).
I don’t think she wanted Robert she is not stupid she knows Kevin 99% of the time makes crappy offers if Kevin made the same offer I think she would have taken it unless she came on the show just for exposure
I think she was hoping for Kevin to match Robert's offer and she would have accepted that because he's heavily in that space. Robert's a nice guy but not worth the 5% on this particular deal. The entrepreneur did everything right and has no regrets. Kevin missed a good opportunity.
She forgot to counter...
@@sssbattleaxeI think her mistake was coming offering a percentage that she doesn't have much of a wiggle room beyond it. If she came offering 2.5% Kevin would have asked for 5 or 7 not 10 which she would accept unlike the 10. It's all psychology. Her mistake was coming with an unbudgeable percentage
@@d7home2129exactly, it’s all about negotiation. You get punished for being too nice upfront
I disagree, I'm sure he has lots of contacts and can make her product blow up even more. She probably needs advise and mentorship on a business level, and that's something anyone between the sharks could have given her.
If a shark offers you exactly what you ask for it then becomes a choice of if that shark is the one you wanted from the start.
Almost every single food or drink pitch, it's like clockwork
Robert: Oh WOW
Mark: How much does it cost you to make and how much do you sell it for?
Kevin: How many calories in each one?
Lori: I love you, but..
Melanie is Her. Smart, gracious, and drop-dead gorgeous.
Robert also took a risk by bowing out, if she goes on to be a hit, he’s the one that will be out of pocket.
hes not out of pocket if he didnt spend anything
The point is not that Robert offered her what she asked for. The point is that he cornered her and that type of manipulative tactic is never to be trusted. I have encountered car salesmen who use that tactic all the time. Always be willing to walk away. That is the power of negotiation. Never allow anyone to corner you. That means they have power over you. You are not equals in that transaction.
Yesssss! 👏👏👏 his huge ego couldn't have been louder. She will be just fine and one day, he will probably regret HIS greed. (Not hers, like everyone keeps implying.)
100 percebt
She had the right to listen to all the offers before making her mind up.
Everyone except Kevin. She should know that he’s not to be trusted.
And she did.
@@scarygary5678 , in turning away from Robert she made Kevin her only option and he exercised that position.
Do people watch this show? Robert is actually less likely to make that kind of contingency.
@@henrypeters5291Unless it’s a damn good product. Robert saw it right away. Yet she still turned the cheek to listen to Mr. Greedyfull. Smh.
As soon as I saw it was a pretty girl I literally knew Robert would make an offer immediately 😂
Exactly!! 😂
why lol @@JL-wv2ou
''Yes I want to sleep with you. No, you're not doing it with Kevin! *Slams door*''
is it some kind of pattern with Robert?
@@YourMomNDad yes lol
She wanted somebody with the drinks food beverage portfolio so smart of her
She should have counter rober with 2.5% for 125K and ask him if he would take kevin in for the other half on that deal that would have gave her an opportunity to listen to kevins offer without losing robert
lol why, did you not understand the situation or just regurgitate what you saw in previous episodes. Kevin wanted 10% at 250k, why would he take 25% of that and still have to pay 50% and still have to put in the same effort, he's getting less for more. She is there for the expertise, not the dollar value. Kevin wasn't willing to sell his expertise for less than 10% equity, the dollar value meant nothing other than sign of good faith. Neither party cared about the $$$ value if you didn't get it, the Shark wanted equity, the girl didn't want to give up 10%. She should have offered Kevin 5% for 125k if anything to salvage her deal or to make Richard pay for his aggressiveness.
@@PWCDNare you clueless? If she offered to share with Kevin she would have been able to hear his offer without Robert being insulted.
There should be like a final jeopardy type offers where all sharks offer or dont offer at the same time with a buzzer. So many people get screwed because of the sharks' egos, or they're the last offer standing.
She should’ve realized Kevin would in no way give an offer at 5% 😅 would’ve agreed with her to wait if was for Mark or Lori. I usually don’t like ultimatums, but side with Robert on this!
She didn't want a deal.
@@mrhumble2937 agreed, she wanted exposition
@@Angiesensei. , psssst-- exposure?
Looks like she was about to burst into tears after that post-pitch interview
dude mark is having a seizure 2:32 🤣
If Kevin offered appropriately, I do believe he would’ve been the ideal partner for this
well it was her fault for not countering. She rejected it without a counter offer. She could have offered 6% for less money if Kevin is offering expertise. IMO she could have done it for $0 for 3% equity if Kevin just brought expertise. She just got greedy and tried to get more than what she asked for.
@@PWCDN Rules of the shark tank. The Shark cannot offer less cash than the business asked for, only more
@@PWCDNlol or 1% with , wait do I hear it, 'ROYAALTY' 😂😂
@@ImAshley2023 idk about this. But yeah I just realize the equity can fluctuate but the cash can only go up
@@PWCDNshe was absolutely not greedy, with a very generous valuation already. I think the wrong move she made was offering a baseline amount which left her with no room for negotiation. Every bit of equity she gives out puts her closer to lesser than 50%. Offering Kevin 6% ain’t gonna change his mind.
Good for her. If Robert is pressuring her to say “yes” without hearing other options. Imagine what type of partner he’ll be. Not worth it.
I agree.
In Robert's defense, he was offering her exactly what she asked for.
@@That_one_introvert. Well if Robert’s ego wasn’t so big he would have landed that deal. Just go look at the ‘Better Bedder’ pitch. Look how Lori, secures her deal, doesn’t pressure the contestants, is passionate about the product and wants to be a partner. Mark sometimes does the “say yes now” but Mark does it out of passion and for the benefit for the entrepreneur. Daymond is like Robert, who gets butt hurt and acts immature when they don’t get what they want. Plus now with the Daymond allegations.
he wouldn't close in the end@@That_one_introvert.
Its an insult to Robert. Youre not in sales bro idk if you understand. He gave her exactly what she asked for. Done.
That accent. Oh my God... 😍
There's no way she could have made an informed decision without hearing Kevin's offer, even though it did not go her way I'm glad she decided to hear him out.
Why is there no way 😂, she had what she wanted at the tip of her hands but she was greedy... and that greediness paid the price.
In the real world you don't always have the option to "hear all offers". Take the risk and lose your other deals. Was a dumb move on her part cuz kevin NEVER woulda went to the 7% or below she wanted.
She just didn’t want Robert
@@limz3312she didn't want money, but a mentor + connections that's why she is selling them her company as a 5 million valuation instead of a 40 million valuation as the other investors.
Fair play that she wanted to hear all offers - buuuuut - when you get offered exactly what you asked for, wanting to hear more can be perceived as greedy.
Although, I probably would have done the same tbh.
All the best to her though, she seems like she is on the right path to a successful future.
Actually, the sharks are greedy themselves and like greed. If the other partner is greedy, they'll try to make as much money as possible for the company.
Greed is a plus as long as you can keep a straight head in terms of re investing capital into the business for further growth and stability.
Yup!
With her record of sales she didn't really need a Shark to bite into her equity. She's going places, unquestionably.
8:14 “You can moan and groan all you want, have another drink!!” 😂😂😂
Everyone knew Kevin would be aggressive, except her haha! In sales, always close now. Lesson learned.
if she watched Shark tank, everyone knows Kevin is a risk if he's the last one to speak lol. You have no leverage if your business generates a loss, especially with guys like Kevin.
I think she knew that too. It was a matter of politeness to hear Kevin
Of course she knew that he would be aggressive. She literally says it and people still don't register. She had the decency/culture to listen everyone out, regardless if that would be in her direct interest. Kevin could have had (bad) feedback to give too
Though that s rare sharks provide exactly what you want at the first place; but I think it is good to hear out another options.
She wasn’t there for an offer. Her valuation was already 8 times more. She got want she needed and that’s a good promotion.
“Let me look like I’m drinking so I fit in”
It's that tribalism mentality.
I hate how the u.s. shark tank doesn't let them hear all the offers and the "shot clock" and stuff. The show in other countries don't do that crap. I am glad to see that she is still doing well at $7 million a year. I'm proud of her for being a strong woman and not begging Robert for a deal like I've seen others do.
This is completely controlling. She can’t _hear_ another offer? I’m so glad she walked away from an abusive business relationship. More power to her.
That's the way Sigma male with billion money make a deal. And she got her offer after all, if she refuse it then she lose it.
Lol, welcome to business
It is business, not friendship. She was offered exactly what she was asking. I would back out as well.
She got offered what she was asking for from a good person she let her instincts kick in and got too greedy 😂
@@kinganonymous1872yep, feminists bruh. Stay sigma
Mark Cuban: you’re amazing. You’re good. For that reasons, I’m out.
She was never going to make a deal, played them like a fiddle. She cant go from 40 mill evaluation to 10 million. I dont think she expected them to give her the exact offer.
Yeah, she just wanted free publicity.
Exactly
Roberts the least desirable shark for her, for most business really, i bet she'd have taken a deal with Mark, Laurie or Kevin.
@@jerimayavondristen9955
I don't think Mark is even that great of a partner. I went back and followed up on so many of his deals and majority have went out of business. He seems to me too occupied with his other business and will just write off the loss. I would take Laurie any day of the week over him.
@@nilnil7325she’s delusional to think these drinks will replace any, let alone, all alcoholic beverages
she did the right thing ,
no she didn't get a deal , but she did the right thing to listen to Kevins offer.
if Robert were not the first to make an offer , then he would not like if she would not listen any other offers (i.e. Robert would have been second offer )
What Robert should have done was to re-offer , after hearing Kevins greedy offer.
Honestly Roberts No loss . The fact that he did that meant he really didn’t care that much & he’s not the best known to close post the show . She did the right thing 💯 %
*Robert's
I think offering exactly what she asked for proves he does care. She responded with greed and got what she deserved. Her loss.
All the sharks does this, this isn't new. You either take it or not. He cares enough to give her what she asked for and that wasn't enough.
*do@@btlv
I get what u’ll are saying but he doesn’t have the reputation of closing the deal post the show . . . So she wanted to weigh her options at times it’s not just about the Money you might prefer 1 mentor over another . . . Any ways her company her decision
Robert would have backed out later anyway like he is known for. He just liked the way she looked and talked.
Robert accepted her offer but at the same time making a point. She is well mannered and she will succeed.
I hope she gets a deal...shes a real fighter and she will fight tooth and nail for her product to succeed
Going by the history of Robert’s commitments in the show,most of them don’t happen after that
0% or No/Low is such an interesting category. However the big names are putting product on the shelves, even if they are not really making money, they want to stop new comers getting that shelf space / building a name.
I think some of that is why Kevin did offer. He wants add some no/low to his portfolio, future proof it.
She’s saying that a fifth of her mixer is retailing for $38??? Yeah, there’s no success story here 😂😂😂
The $38 probably does not include shipping cost. So who’s going to pay over $4 a glass?
@@dancingmeerkat2078 exactly. If you go to her website, it’s even more egregious. Half pint of the juice and 4 tiny cans of mediocre seltzers for $50. This woman is delusional if she thinks her company will succeed.
7:17 marks responds lol thats funny
Not fair to put that kind of pressure on the entrepreneur. You gotta be able to hear all options before making your decision.
He gave her EXACTLY what she saked for, that's what she gets for being greedy. Also, life's not fair.
It's not about fairness, it's about business, she was offered what she asked for and yet it was not enough.
@@thebastardgift Its about TV and entertainment. No one in business is operating like that lol, they want to make money more than have their ego stroked, you usually submit an offer, and others may as well, and the seller may take months to look at every offer and pick the best one. You know the saying "its not personal its just business"? Thats how most people operate, the sharks are just being dramatic to try and make the show more interesting, in their private business dealings 0 chance they do things this way.
@@jerimayavondristen9955 , dramatic? I don't think so because the events are real, lifechanging, educational, and there is nothing like Shark Tank on TV because its real. We disagree and ta-da yet we both survive.😊
Kevin would have definitely been an ideal partner for her, he is in that sort of business already so I understand why she wanted to hear his offer. I feel like if Robert loved it that much he would have stayed in, especially this drink seems really good because I myself hate alcohol especially the taste.
I hope you make it big time Mellony and i hope your brand is a huge success.
Mellony?
What melons?
08:19 that's a look of instant regret. From 5% to 10%.
Wow, Mark really seems to give people proper scary angry death stares when he talks to them this series 😂
I think he could throw around 98% of his net worth in the garbage and still have about as much as the other sharks combined.
@@ghs57 Very true!
@@ghs57 I honestly think why hes the most willing to just call out a company/give the hard facts. This show for him at this point is to just not be bored. No deal is ever going to give him any more "life changing" money
On some episodes Robert is so dramatic like this one, on others he stands for the entrepreneur. I don't get why she couldn't hear all the offers? There is several investors in 1 room, then she could of thought about it and accepted Roberts offer. It just shows Robert didn't really love it that much.
Lots of respect for Melanie, she's awesome❤
I wouldn't want to invest in her product. Ick.
no
She is a greedy pig.
To those saying the sharks are "abusive" or "controlling": its one thing when ALL the sharks immediately argue at each other and cutting each other off to make an offer. You know you have some control.
But if the other sharks arent chomping at the bit, and only one or maybe two sharks are offering, you better take that first offer you get.
I’ve hardly if not ever seen someone get exactly what they wanted and she passed it up
bc. robert never ever closes deals after the show - everyone knows that and would rather go with someone more reliable
She wanted to hear all the offers. Theirs nothing wrong with that
He wasn't willing to bend and even think about letting her hear other offers while still have his on the table to she can get a better picture of the two and maybe make a counter offer.
He talked himself outta a great product, yes Kevin is greedy as hell, but he technically was the right partner for her being the wine business. He can have best of both worlds and offer them too while probably upping the price along the way.
@@djamilawilschke7259 No, she didn't
@@djamilawilschke7259that’s not true
The second you make it so there's only one offer, you're screwed because that Shark knows you have no options. Robert matched her ask and that should have been it
yeah its called leverage, she literally handed it to Kevin on a silver platter.
She didn’t want a deal just the free Shark Tank advertising for the rest of eternity.
Think about it. Everyone knows Robert is the nicest. She didn’t even try to ask Robert after he said he’s out.
She came in there not wanting a deal, was stunned when Robert gave her exactly what she wanted because that rarely happens.
She got a huge life line when Kevin was willing to make her an offer. If she wouldn’t have accepted Robert’s offer, again, exactly what she asked for, Mark, Kevin and even Robert would’ve roasted her all the way back to Paree
I'd never make deals with Robert when you read how he acts behind the scenes. And what retail connections Robert got? No-brainer hear what Mr. Wonderful had to offer because there is all retail connections ready. Too bad he asked too much.
" you can have another drink" Mr. Wonderful 😂
The deal with Robert wouldn't have closed anyways.
Daymond's reaction at 2:47 "Muah magnifique" 😂
Why is Daymond even talking 😅 He wasn’t going to make a deal anyways 😂
She absolutely did the right thing, why would you not want to hear all the options before you make a deal.
Robert as an investor, why would you want to invest in an entrepreneur who doesn't look at all the deals on table and see whats right for the company.
I have never yelled so loud with an episode of Shark Tank 💔💔💔
When Kevin heard robert was out he saw blood in the water & you knew the % would double
Robert is a very nice honest successful Businessman. Her greed crushed her own success!
Have you seen how many deals with Robert never closed? She didn't lose anything. And I don't think she was greedy, she was too polite.
@@sr-er1ip Right? he's the worst shark by a mile
When you have a deal, shut up. Anything you say after a deal can't help since it was a done deal. You live and learn in sales and she is learning.
If you gonna be pressured by your business partner to take their decision immediately without them given you the chance to analyze it then thats a bad partner in the first place
Yea and she didn't want a deal.
Analyze what, it was exactly what she same in there asking for.
Analyze what, it was exactly what she same in there asking for.
Robert never applied pressure, in fact he gave her exactly what she asked for and that was not enough so if anything, he let it go.
Why would it be a bad partner? As if the partner wouldn't want to make money by default because they put a timer on the deal.
You're not very bright. This is not two individuals with a 50% share each that see each other at the office daily.
4:00 Kevin takes me out here 😂
She came here for the free advertising and not for a deal
As she should.
I hate this, because this time must be used for another person that really wanted the deal.
I think she wanted a deal because in seeking a commercial only, if the sharks tasted her product and hated it, it could have ruined her.
These people watch too much tv and movies and believe you HAVE to do multiple finance rounds.
Reminded me of the fox walking home with a bone, and he walks by the river and see a bigger bone. And he lets go of the bone to get the bigger bone. Not realising the bone he saw was an reflection of what he let go off. 😢
Same as her story, she had the bone and thought she’d get a bigger one from Kevin. Anyone who knows Kevin knows he doesn’t get out of bed for 5% what was she thinking 😂
Robert is no bone... she didn't want him.
@@Lommy9999 Well she had a big set and she was impressive and she should of just spoke up and said that to him, rather than having a deal on the table and losing it knowing leaving wouldn’t get out of bed for 5%
@@JosephFrain I agree, and I love the fox story you shared. Maybe she thought it would be rude to tell him he is not the ideal partner.
the physics aint physicsing on that fox story@@Lommy9999
lol
She made the right choice to hear out Kevin's offer. Robert is the worst when it comes to pulling out of deals after the show
If it wasn’t for the fact he offered exactly what she asked for what you’re saying would have truth
I think she just wanted the publicity. Robert offered exactly what she asked for. Then Kevin jumped in and she wanted to hear his offer despite the ultimatum. Thing is if anyone has seen the show Kevin is the most aggressive hagler there, he generally asks for something like 60% or more equity than the presenter is offering and some type of royalty in perpetuity at the price they are looking to get. She probably knew Kevins offer wouldn't be better.
She got greedy. I like Robert - it showed he keeps his oath.
I’m sure Robert would love to do her
8:20 she knows she messed up
Wow I can't believe that this Sony account actually listened to me and fixed the sound. Thank u
This product is trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, we live in the golden age of sparkling waters/sparkling juices. I've never had more alternatives when I take days off drinking.
I don't get the product. If you don't want people to bother you about what you're drinking, get a coca cola. Who knows if it has jack or not.
Exactly. And do grown adults really feel social pressure from other adults about not drinking? This isnt highschool. Adults dont peer pressure each other. Everyone minds their own business and doesnt care about what youre drinking
Got crappy reviews on Amazon and the price is ridiculous. $24 for only four 8oz cans.
Robert has done that a number of times, gets offended when he makes an offer and people want to hear the room out, he so didn’t want to invest 😂
or possibly powerplay and sometimes a shark really wants the deal so offers the asking price they came with.
nobody bats an eye when mark or kevin does the same thing in haste
If someone is giving u exactly what u ask for why would u even risk someone else offer which could be worse smh she player herself out of a deal
@@jaygunny8402 possibly not the shark she wants maybe, don’t look at it from just his point of view, most of them come for Mark, Lori or Kevin, even I won’t like to work with Robert
@@stevethea5250 she probably didn’t want Robert as a shark, can’t blame her for that
robetr would my 4th pick from the panel too. so she mightve found a way out@@donmesut9587
Bruh mr wonderful is a savage 🤣🤣
Mr. Wonderful would never give a better deal. Ever
Exactly. I don't think she did her homework and watched Shark Tank to know Mr. Wonderful's deals/offers.
Old trend : Barbra is out
New Trend : Daymond is out
Ridiculous they were all getting a bargain and they missed it by being weird.
Rule number 2 ....never trust Kevin hahahah damn that killed me haha
She came for marketing. She was offered exactly what she came for and let it slip.
Yep, she had no intention of doing the deal she claimed to want...the whole 'I value you and it's coming out of my equity' speech was a nonsense....her backers told her to get on the show for a free boost in advertising....
@@willcampbell8829 who can buy that crap?
i hate when they don't want others to be able to speak their offers, good job melony.
Greed got the best of her. I was screaming for her to take Robert’s offer. Hopefully she learns from this.
Greed? What if she just felt a different shark would be a better fit?
@@nicholasbogosian5420 if she felt that then she would of at least negotiated with Kevin. She was greedy.
@@cinematicmusic23doesn't make sense. You're implying that the ask is greedy or that any shark would take less than her ask.
@@nicholasbogosian5420 she was offered
Exactly what she asked for. She didn’t negotiate with Kevin to try to win him over. She ONLY heard his offer because she thought it would be better for her. AKA more money in her pocket. Why are you even arguing for her? It’s obvious.
@@cinematicmusic23 you are seriously suggesting that Kevin was going to give her an offer that was..better than her ask? You're making zero sense.
Daymond reaction to the calories he swears the the fittest healthiest guy ever
How petty of Robert to cut his deal just because she refused to play his manipulative little game, and how slimey of Kevin to push her out of the offer from Robert only to make her that sorry excuse for an offer.
Shame all around.
She should have tried to counter with Kevin and tell him 5% non-dillutable shares. A major reason Kevin asks for 10% is that the other big sharks in her company will compete and dillute his holding.
She was being fair to the sharks. The first order of business is to get the best deal. Robert showed his true colors. She found nobody who would have committed for the sake of the product themselves. She left with the same good fortune she had coming in.
There is no such thing as "being fair" in business. Robert did what was right for him and she did what she felt was right. In the end when a shark offers your ask, you should take it. There was 0% chance kevin would have ever hit the 7% or under she wanted.
@@fafafooey4126 Heehaw, would you like a q tip? 👂 my response was backed by what she actually said in the end.
Now if you want to give me some good advice about being an honestly dishonest business person, try giving a presentation yourself next time and tell your stakeholders nothings fair and see how far you get. 🐴