Reacting to *The Thing*
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Such a wholesome movie. 12 men suffering from extreme boredom until a cute dog arrives to liven things up.
12 bored men .. a classic 😅
😂
If you’re cold they’re cold.
Bring them inside.
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WARRIOR 2011
That should have been on the back of all the vhs/dvd boxes.
My cousin works as a technician at a base in Antarctica and he says this movie is pretty accurate - except for the alien. Every Christmas the whole crew gather and watch The Thing.
I always thought they were a bit under dressed for the first week of winter, and the buildings seemed pretty flimsy.
Okay Folks you heard it here it's official The Thing is a Christmas movie.
@@GrantWaller.-hf6jn ....For those snowed in.. :)
'Oh no, don't shoot at the dog'. Ten minutes later 'OMG, KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!' - Every first time reactor, ever.
Not every one. I've seen exactly ONE person say something along the lines of "Why? Why is he doing that? Maybe he knows there's something wrong with the dog...".
@@VestinVestin Me too, sometimes there are people who are suspicious of the dog
"In Antarctica, no one can hear you scream." is a fantastic tagline.
The dog was played by a half-dog, half-wolf hybrid named Jed, and the film crew said that he played all of his parts eerily well and was extremely calm and well-behaved on set, but the moment he'd get uncomfortable, he would suddenly take on that creepy, still stare that you can see in the movie
Jed was also White Fang with Ethan Hawke.
he died in 1995, a high age for dog like this
@@Sandblstr I always wondered if that was the same dog..thankx for that info. ( I think I'll watch it tonight..it's a great movie!)
@@Sandblstr was he? thats cool. i liked that movie too
@@76marex I understand that he was born in a shelter, so it's great that he got to do a lot in his life.
The keys and the blood is easily explained. When Windows was with Bennings in the storage room you hear them talking and Bennings tells Windows to "get the keys from Gary." Windows leaves and when he returns to see Bennings you hear something fall. This is Windows DROPPING THE KEYS. It was made purposely loud so people would hear it. This means 'The Thing' just had to take the keys from the floor, unlock the fridge, destroy the blood and go join the group. In fact if you watch the scene outside you'll see SOMEONE arriving a little later than the others.....
I always find it amusing when first-timers get upset when they're shooting at a dog in the beginning
_...while barely flinching to a person getting shot._
First they like save the dog save the dog then KIILL THE DOG!
Yup. Once the thing's head splits open, everyone goes from "oh cute doggo!" to "KILL IT WITH FIRE!" in record time.
Even seeing it for the first time, it's pretty obvious something is going to be wrong with the dog, so why do they get so offended? Either hamming it up for reaction or actually slow, lol
100% So far
One fun fact: the gunman screaming at the beginning of the movie basically gives away the entire plot - but only if you speak Norwegian.
Or Swedish. :)
@@lazyhominid Thanks, MacReady. 🙂
I saw one Norwegian reactor watch this. Knowing the dialogue didn't really affect how much she liked the flick.
The Swedes??
And of course showing the UFO in the VERY FIRST PICTURE of the film 😅. I guess the producers didnt trust the American audiences intellect to get the plot, like when they see the footage of the Norwegians digging up the UFO 😅
41:17 - the "breath theory"... It is easily debunked by "Bennings Death" (at 21:16 here)... When Bennings/Thing "screams" you can clearly see its breath.
The bottom line is that every "theory" (breath in the cold, gleam in someone's eye, the missing/switched jacket on Childs) doesn't hold up under scrutiny. There is no "tell" as to who is who.
It is the brilliance of this film that will still debate about it over 40 years later!
You can also see Childs breath prior to that and Carpenter has said himself that it simply just didn't show up on camera very well.
@kevinburton3948 John Carpenter has said that he didn't do any deep thinking on the story as it pertains to the order of infections. At first I didn't believe him but after considering Palmer suddenly flying up to the ceiling and sticking to it, which made no physical sense, that's when I started believing John Carpenter. Everyone unwrapped the burnt Norwegian's body without gloves. So any one of them could have been the first to be infected in that scene. But Blair's second autopsy, the one of the dogs, you can see him come into physical contact with the corpse on his bare forearm just above the rubber gloves he was wearing. So, if I had to put my own spin on who was infected first I would choose Blair. Storytelling in film back then (I did see this movie in the theater when it first came out), that had such an ambiguous ending was often intentional by writers. It made moviegoers use their own brains to come up with the ending they preferred and there was no wrong answer. Therefore, for me, neither Childs nor MacReady was infected at the end. They simply froze to death when the fire died down. That could change if I ever actually had the opportunity to write and film a sequel.
There are multiple instances of the thing replicating parts of the host that weren’t there in real life in Addition to not being able to replicate metal.
@@Whoo_Boy You and I are completely on the same page when it comes to the infections. I too believe Blair was first despite the "shadow on the wall" looking most like Norris. I've been watching this film since the early 80s as well (but not in the theatre- I was only 12 when it came out).
I also believe that Childs and Mac were the only two human survivors. In 2023 I got to meet Keith David at a horror convention in Niagara Falls (Canada).
I shared with him my thoughts on "who is who" at the end. They are both human. These two have been at each other's throats throughout the entire film. Childs is Mac's opposition. And they were both willing to kill each other- Mac threatening to shoot Childs and Childs allowing Mac to freeze to death outside.
But by the end, all that animosity for each other is gone- Mac's offer of the whisky is not a final test- it is an olive branch. They have finally put aside all their hate and distrust. You can hear it in Childs' voice when he asks, "Well... What do we do?" They know that although they will not survive, they have saved Humanity.
This is our "happy ending."
The entire time I was explaining this to Keith David, he had this growing smile on his face. When I was finished he reached out and shook my hand. While it might not have been definitive, it was good enough for me.
@@LudusAurea That's from the prequel. While it might be your thing, the prequel was nonsense for me.
First reaction to The Thing that actually put thought into *why* the Norwegians were shooting at the dog, instead of immediately jumping to "Oh no, poor doggy!" And that level of curiosity continued throughout. Well done!
Well... they already knew the basic outline of the plot. If it's an alien movie, and random people are desperately trying to kill a dog, then... yeah. Most reactors go in not knowing what the movie's about
@@Eidlones The slim few who speak or know Norwegian, on the other hand, are put on there toes.
@@EidlonesUnless most reactors skipped the first minute, they know it is an alien movie.
Well, the girls are both Bright, but I think they may have known a bit more about the movie than most reactors. The girl on the left freely admitted to having explored this type stuff online. Hard to miss some of the “surprises” in the Thing when you are looking for that stuff online.
The 2011 movie is both a prequel and an homage. Arguably it's traced over this movie but it introduces some new ideas to the canon. It's worth seeing
I wish more people knew that! Rather than incorrectly assuming it's a remake. Will rewatch fully.
I'm really hoping for a third film set on one of the Soviet antarctic bases :)
Your acknowledgement of how stressful the situation is and how everyone’s behavior is understandable is something insanely lacking in most people that watch horror movies. I’ve heard someone describe why it is people think they’re smarter than the characters/the characters are dumb.
_“Movie watching is a passive activity that allows you to think and consider multiple options. The pressure of a situation can f**k with your decision making process”_ -Griffin Newman, actor and cohost of the Blank Check podcast
I’ve been in stressful situations and not been able to think straight to make better decisions, and they were nowhere near life threatening. I can only imagine how overwhelmed someone is with that.
100%, very well said. Always glad to run into another Blankie in the wild :D
@@Dylan_Platt eyy!
My interpretation of them sharing the drink at the end is that they both (or the one human) knows that if either one of them is the thing, then they already failed, because the remaining human would not have the strenght and equipment left to deafeat a thing on his own. And as any human left alive is doomed to freeze to death anyways, there is no reason to bother with the safety precautions anymore, and they both know it.
That is the intended meaning, but my God do people love to run with crazy theories about that scene.
I also saw a theory that the bottle was filled with gas as they had been burning and blowing everything up and he gave it to him to see if he would drink it and if it was gas he just drank it no issue proving he is a thing.
@@user-pn7sy1ln8s Keith David has stated that both actors were told they were human at the end. The gasoline thing was given credence because Carpenter thought it was great when he heard it, but it was not his original idea or intention.
@@W2theG Yeah, that's similar to how Quentin Tarantino enjoys reading fan theories about what's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction, but the real answer is that there is no real answer. When he and Roger Avary wrote the original script, they wrote it as diamonds (specifically, the diamonds from the Reservoir Dogs heist), but then decided that was too predictable and decided to leave it undefined, even for themselves, figuring the viewer's imagination could conjure up something way more valuable than anything they could actually show you. Ofc, some people came up with the "Marcellus Wallace's soul" theory and that's just nonsense. Avary is on record as saying that he hates that theory and thinks it's dumb. He told Roger Ebert in 1997, "Somebody had the bright idea (which I think was a mistake) of putting an orange lightbulb in there. Suddenly what could have been anything became anything supernatural."
@@W2theG Keith David said that he doesn't know if he was it or not. Discusses it near the end of this interview before he starts talking about They Live!
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"The rest of the movie is gonna be fine in comparison to this...." LOL! Famous last words.
rare horror movie where no one is a moron and every character constantly makes smart decisions.
and they constantly lose while acting like actual smart humans. big reason it's the best movie ever.
What's funny is there was a video game sequel in 2002, picks up right where this left off--and they just announced it's getting a remaster for release later this year!
the 2011 film is not a remake, it's a prequel and ends right before this one starts. This film is a technically a retelling of the 1951 film The Thing from Another World, albeit much much better.
Yes it fits better with th e original book.
It's better if you go into it thinking it is a remake. Your comment is kind of a spoiler.
Ahhhh, well This info certainly makes me Much more inclined to watch the 2011 film... finally.
Stop being a Spoiler dumb Ass. It's actually a great reaction When people think it is a remake. I've seen two reaction channels watch the 2011 versions thinking its a remake & the Ending blows their Mind. Stop spoiling things for these Reactors and let them experience these movies for themselves. Whether it's a bad movie or Not let them see for themselves.
@@xensonar9652 if you dont like spoilers, stay off social media.... or the internet in general.
It's not a classic, it's a MASTERPIECE!!! 🤟😎
There is a prequel called "The Thing (2011)" where we see the team of Norwegians who found the thing and everything that happened at its base before it. And as a matter of fact, there are comics and a video game that are sequels to this movie, but the video game and the comics are not connected, each one is a different sequel.
The alien's credo: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Heh heh! Stop it!
Lol
Thank you so much for realizing Blair was trying to prevent the Thing from spreading by sabotaging the helicopter and communications. So many reactors miss that.
The Thing 2011 is a prequel about what happened at the Norwegian base. People were mad they didn't use practical effects but it's a solid horror movie.
This is supposed to make you paranoid and someone said it's an inspiration for the game Among Us 😉
Agreed. The other movie was good.
The production wanted to leave it practical as a throwback and the studio insisted on CGI for the wow factor. Wrong choice studio!
Also, not a fan of them changing the extraction from the ice block. What happens in the film would not leave the ice tub behind. A careful extraction as the original film intended to have portrayed would have.
They did use mostly practical.... then the studio apparently covered it all over with CGI.
@@itt23r good point. editing.
@@itt23r but now your post is. fyi.
The Sequel your talking about is actually a Prequel . It tells on the story of the Norwegians lab.
So glad that the two of you continued on to have your own channel. Looking forward to your reactions.
27,000 hours is just over 3 years.
19:00, 27,000 hours is 3 years from the time of the infection in the base to the outside world.
The guy who did the practical effects previously worked on a werewolf movie but that year the Oscar went to a colleague who also did a werewolf for An American Werewolf In London (which you have to react to!). So he was extremely motivated to give his best here, which he did. He worked continuously, living on candybars and sodas to such an extend that after the last day of shooting he went to a hospital to have himself checked out.
Bottin was Rick Baker's assistant. Baker was developing the air bladder effects for An American Werewolf in London. Bottin used some of what Baker developed in The Howling. Baker was said to be upset that Bottin used his technique in a movie that beat AAWIL to the theater.
"In Antarctica, nobody can hear you scream."
Penguin: "You guys hear somebody scream over there?
In Antarctica everybody can hear you scream when someone sneaks up behind you and rams an iceball down the back of your snowsuit.
I love practical effects.
Agreed...works alot better than CGI in most cases.
They made the 2011 using practical effects and the studio made them replace it with CG. It could have been so amazing.
To be honest, the 2011 The Thing isn’t a remake but rather a prequel to the 1980s original. And they both connect pretty accurately. I’d advise watching both.
Tbh I didn't hate the 2011 that much.
The hate came from:
-Can't be compared to the OG.
-they started with practical but they decided to do with Cgi.
The Carpenter film isn't the original; the original came out in 1951 under the long title "The Thing from Another World".
@@richarddefortuna2252 that’s why I said 1980s original my guy. Meaning pertaining to the 2011 prequel. I know full well about the very first one.
@larrygarcia6356 my bad, my guy; I only reacted to the word "original," which means the first, the one from which the story originated, and there is no 1980's "original."
In any event, my original comment was not meant to be a slight toward you.
@@richarddefortuna2252 no worries, personally I like both the 80s one and its prequel but that’s me.
John Carpenter also did " Escape From New York " with Kurt Russell. And another John Carpenter movie is " They Live ".
The Thing from 2011, takes place in 1982. It takes place at the Norwegian scientific facility before the Thing destroys it. So it takes place a little before the movie we all love.
A prequel.
I think it was done pretty well and honors Carpenters Thing.
"What did this dog ever do to the Norwegians?!"
So much
Wow, I didn't realize you two hadn't seen this! It's always fun to watch people's first time reactions 😂
One of the best Sci-fi Horror Thriller Films ever made!
It was not well received by critics upon release and that it bombed at the box office, making $19 million dollars against a $15 million dollar budget.
However it's gained a cult following overtime and has been regarded as one of John Carpenter's best movies in his filmography
The Dog Kennel Sequence was done by Oscar Winning VFX artist Stan Winston as Rob Bottin fell ill with a bleeding ulcer and heat exhaustion. Winston would receive "Special Thanks" at the rolling credits.
The sounds of The Thing during its transformations were that of bears, pigs squealing, rattlesnakes, horses, and human screams played backwards or slowed down to make it sound otherworldly.
dog people would be the death of us all.
I was 12 years old when
The Thing(1982) first came out in theaters.
I didn't watch it until 1985 when it was
released on VHS. To say that my first time watching it was a memorable one, would be a blatant understatement.
Of all the gory/gammy/graphic/violent/sanguine scenes in the movie, the shot of the husky being tortured against the wall, completely covered in alien slime and worms, crying out in fear and pain..absolutely breaks my cold dead heart!!!💔!!!
42+ years now, it still does.
THAT is how well done the now vintage practical VFX hold up to this day.
Next to Halloween(1978) and The Fog(1980),
it's my favorite John Carpenter horror movie.
The Thing(2011) is a prequel to this
version. It's worth checking out if you're so compelled.
The thing about 2011 The Thing (haha see what I did there) is that it's a good movie bastardized by the studio in post production. First they got scared of how bleak the story was, so they forced the director to reshoot the beginning and the end, then they thought "hey, kids these days love cgi, let's make this already finished movie a cgi fest." Like, there were practical effects in the movie and, from what I understand, they looked great, but some suit had that stupid idea and the practical effects got virtually painted over with cgi. In a sense it's still a scary horror story but indead of a thing from outer space it's about Hollywood studio system.
P.s: casting Mary Elizabeth Winstead as de-facto female Kurt Russell was wise, though. She's really good in it.
Such a shame isn't it? It would have been a worthy prequel with practical effects as the rest of the movie is pretty good.
The breath/gasoline theory is the dumbest blindly repeated thing on the internet. People don't pay attention. It's a PERFECT IMITATION. A perfect imitation would still have warm moist breath and know the difference between Scotch and gasoline. Mac and Childs are simply lit differently. Mac is right in front of the light from the fire. Childs is somewhat in shadow. Plus you can see Childs's breath when he first walks up. Don't know if they killed the entire Thing but I think it's pretty clear that they're both human and they froze to death.
Idk why people think the thing can speak English but not know humans don't drink gas.
Update: They didn't kill The Thing. Because there is a game. It's frustrating as hell but you should try it. It confirms MacReady and Childs froze to death. Can I get some promo dollars?
@@DrJohnnyFever. In The Thing game, Childs froze to death and the scanner you have confirms he was human. Mac didn't freeze, he's the chopper pilot at the end who helps you beat the end boss and flies you out.
@@DrJohnnyFever. They just announced a remaster of it a few days ago
@@davidmathieson8661 That's right. Been a while.
I love how they picked Norris definitely the most unassuming guy out of the whole damn movie. What genius what fucking genius.
Fun fact: the dog won an Oscar for 'Best Supporting Actor', and was nominated for 'Best Co-Director'! 👀
At the Dog Oscars...
“Watch the original!” is funny because this version is itself a remake.
The actual original was “The Thing From Another World” (1951).
Which sucks, TBH, unless you like carrot monsters lol
Not actually a remake, more of a more faithful adaption of the book. Much like the Jeff Bridges version of True Grit.
@@acidrain92 I mean they did their best lol
@@michaelmartin4874 Carpenter loved the 1951 film and it was the reason he wanted to do this one.
@@brandonflorida1092 I know, but to call it a direct remake is to cheapen the work that Carpenter and Bottin put in. My point is that Carpenter went more along the original al story than by Hawke's film.
The Wolf-Dog who plays the Alien his name is Jed. My favorite animal actor. John Carpenter has said Jed was amazing to work with. Check out Jed's other performances in "The Journey of Natty Gann"(1985) and "White Fang"(1991).
I never knew that was Jed in those other movies! Explains a lot. I think that version of White Fang is overlooked.
@@Johnny_Socko The Journey of Natty Gann is sooooo underrated. A beautiful film. Ethan Hawke became very close to Jed on White Fang. He said if they taught an acting class on animals and how to act with one. Jed would be the prime example.
Interesting Facts:
Norris is clearly exhibiting chest pain and all of the classic signs of a heart attack and cardiac arrest before he collapses.
In the prequel to “The Thing”, they were able to identify people who had been imitated because the Things were only able to replicate organic matter and were therefore unable to duplicate inorganic matter, which meant that items such as pins inserted to hold together broken bones and fillings in your teeth would be missing in people that had been taken over. That would obviously be the case for anyone like Norris that had a pacemaker as well. They were thus able to identify who was a Thing and who was not by checking for fillings, etc…
When the Thing imitates someone, it perfectly duplicates every cell with such precision than it actually retains the memories, knowledge, and personality of the individual it copies. Norris (the guy who’s chest bursts open, chopping off the doctor’s hands with its bear-trap teeth) had a bad heart, and very likely a peacemaker. When the Thing took him over and perfectly imitated him, it also faithfully recreated his heart defect, but not his pacemaker, which eventually caused Norris to suffer a heart attack for real during a high-stress moment. The Thing would have been happy to hide itself in a presumably “dead” body, but it couldn’t tolerate the electro-shocks from the defibrillator and was thus forced to reveal itself. Of course, the amazing scene where Norris’ head separates from his burning body, slides onto the floor, and pulls itself away, transforming into a crab/spider with his upside-down head as its body, and tries to crawl away unnoticed, is an iconic moment! (Incidentally, at the beginning of the movie, the spaceship was flying erratically because the crew was desperately trying to fight off the Things that were aboard their vessel and causing havoc. That’s why the spaceship attempted to make an emergency landing on the nearest planet and ended up crash landing in the Antarctic. Only one of the Things as survived the crash and made it out of the ship alive, only to freeze in the ice.)
Technically, this movie was a remake of the 1951 movie THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD; however, Carpenter focused heavily on the REAL original story, 'Who Goes There?' by John Campbell - which the 1951 movie basically ignored, to its detriment.
I didn't read the original story so I don't know how accurate the 50s movie is, but It's a great movie by itself. The fact that the "monster" was barely shown and when it did it was always very shadowy is a trick that Ridley Scott also took to inspire suspense in Alien. Carpenter went full berserk and showed everything he could, different approach to the same kind of story.
@@JulioLeonFandinho The 1951 movie had its own strengths; however, the monster was just a monster. The original story and the Carpenter movie exploited the massive sense of paranoia to the extreme, which the 1951 movie (set during the height of the Cold War and communist panic) could have REALLY used.
@@JulioLeonFandinho Stephen King warned him about that. But, in John Carpenters own words, he said, "Being stupid, I said 'Let's try that!'"
@@clarencewalker3925
Didn't know that.
It's uncommon for Carpenter also, his previous movies are more psychological. I suppose he saw himself with a bigger budget in his hands and his usual naughtiness and maybe thought what the hell, why not, let's try this
"Who Goes There" was first published in 1938. It has been many years since I last read it.
The Thing is actually a re-make of a 50s classic
Played by Marshall Dillon of GUNSMOKE tv show.
This movie has always, and will always be my favourite movie
So this I clicked on the SECOND I saw it
Ok, you lock the science guy in the tool shed, then act all surprised when he builds something.
My understanding of the prequel is that the studio interfered with the director and forced them to use CGI instead of relying on practical effects.
Yup, the studio thought the practical effects made the movie look old school & cheesy, when they were actually really good. You can find behind the scenes clips on youtube that show the original effects they had & they look great.
If you need lore: the 2011 film tells the story of the Norwegian camp and their discovery of the craft and the creature. Wanna know why that axe was stuck in the wall...?
Actually, Howard Hawks directed the first film in the 1950's and it was called "The Thing from Another World." John Carpenter was tapped for the 1982 remake, and the rest is Hollywood history. The prequel with Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Joel Edgerton came out in 2011, and has much of the same atmosphre and foreboding and tension and of course body horror, but many people were soured on the use of CGI in place of practical effects, even though practical effects were used in a lot of shots for reference purposes. I've seen all 3 films, and the 2011 prequel I saw in theaters twice, it was a lot of fun. My date got massivel jumpscared during one scene, it was hilarious, there was popcorn everywhere!
2011 prequel explains exactly what happened at the Norwegian research base, how the creature got there and wreaked a lot of havoc, turned into the dog, escaped, and found its way to the Amreican outpost.
Alternate endings...One,showed one of the dogs staring at the camp showing the audience that the Thing survived.Two,McCready is rescued and is tested for the Thing, and it's negative for the Thing.
Fun fact: 27000 hours is roughly three years with change. Thats how long the organism would've taken to infect the entire human or animal population. Pretty terrifying. And now that I've typed it .... I think I actually want to see THAT movie! lol
There are comics that continue the story after this movie but I don't remember much
I have to say it:
The intro with the spaceship, takes away a lot of the mystery.
Interestingly enough, something very similar happens with Predator.
I think that removing both intros from the beginning, both movies would have more suspense, and more mystery for the new viewers.
And in the case of this movie, it would lead to a lot of speculation and references to Lovecraft and Mountains of Madness.
Came here for this. As someone who has read ‘Who Goes There?’ ‘At The Mountains Of Madness,’ the related comics, and tangential books like “The Lurker In The Lobby, and as someone who beat the sequel video game- thank you!😆I have a black, and white stock photo on my art studio wall of the cast of John Carpenter’s The Thing posed in costume in front of the US Antartica Base helicopter, and when visitors ask me who the men in the photo are I reply that it’s the only known photograph of John Carpenter’s THING!😅
❤️☠️➕🤖
Theory #1: We don't visibly see Child's breath.
Critics say that it's just a illusion from the lightning.
Huge fans will say: Well the thing survived frozen in ice 100K years and died several times being partially burned. So air is NOT necessary for it to be alive.
Theory #2: Mac gave Childs a molotov cocktail to drink and Childs accepted it and drank it.
Crirics say: how could the thing fall for such a simple trick?
Huge fans will say: why would Mac drink this bottle now when we have been seeing molotov cocktails everywhere? Maybe he was getting ready to take himself out.
Theory #3: Childs trusts Mac completely after everything he has done. Why?
Critics would say: this is looking too deeply into it.
Fans say: This makes perfect sense because if you have a bacterial outbreak like this, you would never take something to drink or eat from others.
Theory #5 Child's jacket apparently changes from the time he is watching the doors to the time he reunites with Mac.
Critics: Again it could be illusion from the snow or something.
Fans will say: Wright had that shot earlier that shows us that a jacket that was on the hook that looked very similar to the one Childs is wearing.
John Carpenter told us to not be so desperate for a sad ending so he said that most likely they are both human.
All theories are easily debunked because the film was purposefully made to have no clues to spoil the ambiguous ending. So any clue one does see is either not a real clue, or an error. I'd also say, the 'critics' in your post are also fans of the film. That being said:
Theory #1: We don't visibly see Child's breath.
Just re-watch the scene. Mac is backlit by the burning base and Childs is not. Plus, if you look carefully you can see Childs does have visible breath...it's just not as easy to spot. And thirdly, Bennings is a Thing and also has visible breath. This is a non-issue.
Theory #2: Mac gave Childs a molotov cocktail to drink and Childs accepted it and drank it.
It's not a Molotov cocktail...it's a bottle of booze. A Molotov would be gas, and an assimilated Mac would know not to drink gas. A non-assimilated Mac wouldn't drink gas...freezing to death is relatively painless. Gasoline poisoning is not. There is no rational reason to go out that way. It would be rational if Mac wanted to cushion dying by drinking booze here.
Theory #3: Childs trusts Mac completely after everything he has done. Why?
If you look closely at Childs' flame thrower, you'll see the pilot light is out. So it's either not working or out of fuel...if Mac is a Thing, Childs is helpless. Plus, its obvious both Mac and Childs are in the process of freezing to death. At this point it doesn't matter. Like Mac says, there isn't a lot either can do about it at that point.
Theory #4 Child's jacket apparently changes from the time he is watching the doors to the time he reunites with Mac.
Nauls' coat also changes color...it gets covered in snow/frost when he cut Mac loose. Anyway, the shot of the empty area being proof anything is suspect since almost certainly it was only inserted there during editing. So it's either not true or a continuity error....especially because the film was made to have no clues as to who if anyone is a Thing at the end.
The fact that the ending is perfectly ambiguous is part of what makes this film great.
If you're going to listen to anyone, listen to the man who actually directed the movie. He's said straight up that he has a real answer for himself but he's not telling. When asked about the theories, he's debunked them (including the breath one). Even the "gleam in the eyes" theory -- which originated with the movie's cinematographer, Dean Cundey, who said that there's a lighting in the eyes of human characters that you don't see when they're a Thing -- was shot down by Carpenter himself. In fact, Carpenter's response was "[Dean Cundey] doesn't know. He has no idea. He puts the lights up. He puts the lights up, and we were in the snow. He has no clue." When reminded that Cundey would see his response, Carpenter doubled down and said, "You tell him that. Tell him he's full of shit."
So the "real answer" -- at least within the confines of the movie on screen -- is that there's no real answer. There are no clues to puzzle together. It's meant to be completely ambiguous so you leave the movie uncomfortable and uncertain, just like the characters. Anything else is just randos on the internet making guesses based on imagined connections between things that aren't connected.
That being said, the video game of "The Thing" that came out a while ago does have answers. In it (SPOILERS), you find Childs frozen to death and a scan of his body tells you that he's human. At the end of the game Mac is the helicopter pilot who comes in and flies you out after the boss fight. Why is this important? Because John Carpenter has said that the game is canon.
@@johnplaysgames3120 I would agree...and when Carpenter made the film, he said they worked extra hard to make sure there were no clues...that the goal was a real ambiguous ending. No sequel. No answers.
And after Carpenter's film career fell apart, he changed his mind. Why? Because his film career fell apart, and he was willing to say and do whatever he could to make money. So I'll stick with what Carpenter intended when he made the film, not now when he's thrown his artistic integrity out the window so he can make his house payments.
@@Ocrilat You did a lot of great research for this answer and I like that.
I think that the movie itself doesn't just ask its audience to question what they see, I think John Carpenter, when he made that movie m, downright demands the audience to question what they see or know.
The movie begins with the theme when we see a dog being chased by a helicopter, you see A thing and and immediatly assume something only for the movie to reveal the really twisted reveal later. The ending is like Carpenter telling the audience: Do you see this? Two happy friends so happy that they survived? Is that what is real or is it something else?
The game doesn't have to mean anything. I don't know how accurate a device can say a person is a thing, I mean that kind of ruins the point of the the thing and just turns it into generic alien.
My point it: Childs could have been a thing and he froze up so the device says: well it looks just like a human when he froze.
Also I have a very hard time believing Carpenter knew the ending and was like: "Oh yeah! That is canon... just like the comic books." Famous people will say whatever they need to to remain relevant.
James Cameron has been saying that every Terminator movie after T2 is canon, just so he can help his friends (Arnold) and get his royalties.
Do you think John Carpenter didn't get his royalties checks after he said that?
Director John Carpenter said he thought he made it obvious who was the thing at the end of the movie and if you rewatch the end and pay closer attention you'll notice that while Mac Ready and Childs are talking to each other the only one with mist coming out of his mouth is Mac Ready in sub zero temperatures.
i dont understand why mist matters? breathing is breathing. you need air to make sound
I have been waiting forever for you two to do this!! I’m so excited to watch!,😁
I always thought the 'heartbeat' score had been written by John Carpenter (known for writing the music for many of his films), which was so subtle, creepy and suspenseful. I was surprised to see that this simple soundtrack was written by Ennio Morricone, who is best known for his uniquely complex music soundtrack/score for "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly".
IIRC, the studio did not want Carpenter to score this film for whatever reason. So Carpenter agreed to hire the legendary Morricone, which pleased the studio very much. And then Morricone wrote a score in the style of John Carpenter. Genius. 😄
I have the thing ost and most of that soundtrack wasn't even in the movie. Just a few bits, when Blair doing the projections on his computer and the main theme; which sounds a lot like something carpenter would do. Funny watching the hateful eight and hearing two unused thing tracks.
A true horror masterpiece! The atmosphere, suspense and practical scares all make this one of the best horror movies of all time! Plus, Kurt Russell is awesome.
They technically made a sequel, in video game form, and that game is currently being remade.
This movie ranked at #48 in the 100 scariest movie moments on Bravo
I have no clue what the CGI snobs are complaining about but the 2011 THING is definitely worth watching if it is answers you are seeking. I won't say more so as to not reveal any spoilers. but it will fill in a few blanks that this movie failed to provide. And it is not at all what you thought it was.
As to this movie, one thing you may not have noticed is that there was a cameo by a big name female star. Carpenter's then wife actress, Adrienne Barbeau, was the voice of the chess computer. And the intriguing thing about that is the question of whether she realized when she recorded her voice for the computer that MacReady was going to throw his drink on it and call it a cheatin' wh0re. Since she and Carpenter were divorced shortly after this movie came out, there is a suggestion that unbeknowst to her he chose to air his dirty laundry in that scene
The 2011 movie is a prequel, and tbh it gets it's hard criticism for the fact they shot everything with practical effects like this one, but the studio didn't like it and made them change everything practical to cgi, as if there isn't enough full cgi movies even back then, so it loses it's real feeling, like in this what you see is something really in camera, and it gives it a certain weighty, realness. That's really the only thing, the story and everything else is fine, and even introduces a little new lore that the fandom has accepted as canon (won't spoil it for you) even if it does kind of not line up with the original, like obviously Carpenter wasn't thinking in a couple decades a new movie would be made from his story, so the new lore is kind of their own making.
Here's the thing (no pun intended):
The dog infected Norris first (the shadow had short, curly hair--which is Norris); his underwear was the set Nauls found in the kitchen.
Blair got infected from the autopsy (he touched his eraser to his lips).
Norris likely infected Palmer at some point (Windows found his underwear), and one of them (likely Blair) grabbed the keys when Windows dropped them after the Bennings attack and destroyed the blood.
Since Blair could get in and out of a locked room, he snuck back into base and cut the power to sneak out to MacReady's shack--but Fuchs saw him. Blair dropped the clothes outside and ambushed Fuchs, who probably burned himself to avoid assimilation. Blair then finished framing MacReady and deliberately left the lights on to attract attention before going back to the shed.
Palmer was always in the presence of the group so he couldn't move about or do anything. Blair was able to skulk around in the dark.
Blair likely broke in through the broken supply room window and assimilated Childs (who may have opened the door to try to get away). He says he thought he saw Blair outside--which is impossible because Blair was inside and going into the generator room when Childs walked out. Thing-Childs probably knew the generator room was next which is why the POV shot looks down at the door before going to the exit.
John Carpenter says that one of the 2 guys is The Thing, but he's refused to say who it is. So one of them is The Thing. Dean Cundey says it's Childs because he says he deliberately didn't put highlights in the eyes of the actors who were Things; John Carpenter has shot this down, but probably because he wants to preserve the mystery.
Wilford Brimley (Blair) was the only actor who didn't go to location, so he's not in any outdoor shots; that's why Blair is often missing.
The 2011 version is prequel: it shows the Norwegian camp. It isn't necessary and there's a few continuity errors. It's not unwatchable, but it IS cringey because it was superimposed onto the on-set practical effects. So they made the FX on set and the studio decided to re-do them with CGI in post. That's why the CGI is so controversial.
Wasn't expecting to get this in June, but seeing this pop up on my front page made my whole damned day!
The Thing is on the shortlist of greatest horror films ever made, in my opinion
Yes, Ennio Morricone composed the music for Cinema Paradiso, a movie that by the way, you should react on the channel, so more people know about it.
For all movie lovers, Cinema Paradiso is a must see movie.
Please give the Star Trek franchise a chance.
Nah, man. Star Trek is not it.
My favorite horror/comedy of all time... Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil
Surprisingly entertaining and well done film. ❤
27000 hours = 1125 days
You're both so articulate. I love it
29:55 they meant MacCready would freeze to death, not the Thing😅
"The Thing" is my favorite type of move, where you neve know more than the main character.
The girls are back in town.
This is a remake of the 1951 movie The Thing from Another World.
For '80s body horror with practical effects I would recommend the David Cronenberg movie Videodrome. He also directed a remake of The Fly, which is also excellent.
Not an actual remake, just a more accurate transposition of the original story "Who goes there", by John W. Campbell Jr.
It's a re-adaptation of the same source material, not a remake of the previous film.
Points well taken.
The most disappointing thing about the 2011 Thing prequel is that they originally shot the movie with all practical effects but the studio made them redo it all with CGI because they thought it looked too "old school & cheesy", when it was in fact the exact opposite, it looked great. If you do watch it, look up the behind the scenes clips after as you get to see some of the great hand build effects they originally had. It's not the greatest movie, but I'd say it's worth a watch.
Yes so true, Studio ADI was/is their name (and most of the test footage is on RUclips last I checked) they were so angry with how bad they got screwed over, that right afterwards they went on to make their own practical effects only horror movie themselves.
Stella - "the rest of the movie's gonna be fine in comparison to this"
Movie - "Hold my Norwegian beer"
An alternate ending actually had McReady as the only survivor... and he tested to be human. Basically a happy ending. John Carpenter said...
"Nah.'
iirc, it's theorised at the end that Mac doesn't have booze in the flask, but he filled it with gasoline, and notices that Childs drinks without knowing the taste because he's now the Thing.
Woah! That's an interesting theory.
The only problem with that theory is that the Thing seems to replicate people perfectly (including memories)...so why would a person just chug down some gasoline? It doesn't make any sense.
@@eddhardy1054it's a nonsense idea from people who like to think they know something others don't. There are no clues that Carpenter inserted into the film.
Yeah ,sharqane probably thinks the Earth is flat or a god pull's the strings of reality.... idiotic.
Sharqane probably thinks the Earth is flat and a god pull's the strings of reality, 1 more idiot born every second!
I first saw this on cable during Memorial Day Weekend 1983. I was 12. It scared the hell out of me; the paranoia was worse than the gore. And then I had dreams about The Thing for the next decade where it was in my neighborhood, school, whatever. Now _that's_ an effective horror movie. I love it today; just brilliant filmmaking.
Glad you're back doing movies. You two are good at this.
The dog in the corridor going into Norris' room and screen going black is movie making brilliance.👍
You guys should follow this up with the 2011 version. It's not a remake and gets a bad rap just because of its CGI use, but it is actually a quality film.
2011 The Thing movie is a prequel. I wouldn't say it's bad, it's just unnecessary because it tells the story of the Norwegian camp and we can imagine what happened there from this movie, there is no need to show it. Creates some plot holes too.
It's so nice to see you guys doing something in my interest range again like in the White Noise" days. Great reaction to a great movie! Thank you!
John Carpenter loved the 1951 "The Thing From Another World," so he remade it and because of the improved technology by 1982 was able to make it closer to the original story "Who Goes There" by John W. Campbell Jr.
This movie was the absolute pinnacle of practical effects before use of CGI was widespread.
Composer Ennio Morricone, who is most famous for the Clint Eastwood "Dollars Trilogy" and "Once Upon a Time in the West," was not allowed to see the movie when he wrote the score, so he just gave them a sort of kit.
Personally, I like the 2011 prequel. I know what people complain about, but I enjoyed it.
You are correct! Gloves aren't enough! Blair was most likely infected early on when handling the various remains of The Thing, hence why it took longer to take him over.
Yay early
So looking forward to watching, I love your takes on these 80's classics!
Interesting note: There's a short story online, called 'Things', which tells the story from the perspective of the creature.
It's definitely worth checking out!
Five Nights at Freddy's is actually a legitimately fun movie. I'd give it a look, personally
Ok. I love The Thing. I watch it at least twice a year. With that being said, the 2011 “The Thing” is NOT a bad movie. It has some CGI in it that isn’t very good but the acting, horror and continuity are excellent. It’s a prequel by the way. Please give it a chance.
1st. Must say got super excited seeing that you both were going to react to this one, it disturbs so many that watch it, and your reactions did not disappoint, from the scares to your speculations, enjoyed watching. 2nd. Compliments to both of you on your lip and eye makeups, they're really beautiful, if don't mind my saying so. The 2011 one I watched once, it does give a look into what happened at the Norwegian base, but it could be done without watching, unless want to see it on your own time of course. And I'd be excited to see your FNAF reaction.
P.S. The dog kennel scene always disturbed me most as a child, scarred me even after all these years.
In regards to the 2011 version, the way I heard it, they originally filmed it all in practical effects, but were told to redo it in CGI, even though they stated that it wouldn't work like that. But they had no choice or loose their funding, so were forced to go back and redo it. It ended up being the shit show it now is because of that decision.
So glad to stumble upon this and find you guys have a newer channel! And with this film to react to!
So happy i got on RUclips and you two popped up in my feed. I always loved watching your reactions on the old channel....well if I'm being honest i only wayvh yalls reactions. I'm happy your back. Granted I'm severally late in saying that since it's been four months. But like cheech said in Ghostbusters "better late then never".
So nice to see you guys back reacting and to one of my favourite films. Glad you didn’t both just chuck it in. Although I’m a little sad not to see you post as often, it’s really nice to get an out of the blue surprise every now and then, mind you Cats was not so much as a surprise as a shiver down my spine. The fact that you’re able to keep building on your previous work is great and only proper. Stella, I hope you put all the musical stings and reactions you come up with into your own REACTORS the musical one day. I haven't heard you guys mention viewer polls or subscriber votes once which is bloody great! Please don’t start. That leaves you free to follow your own instincts untethered to the opinions of others and me free to make recommendations without having to compete to have them considered. So since you have gone down the body horror road this week I would like to suggest reacting to THE ELEPHANT MAN at some point. All the best, Andrew
So glad you've done this one!
In HD or 4K you can see Child's breath. You can also see Benning's breath just before he is set on fire, after he got infected.
Whenever I hear your intro music, I think it's The Sound of Silence.
One thing I’ve always wondered is why didn’t Norris try to infect Mac when they were alone together on the spaceship? We know for sure he’s a thing at that point? Did he find Mac a worthy opponent? Was it a respect thing? I’ve always wondered…
When Windows runs away after seeing the guy getting being absorbed by the Thing, you can hear the sound of keys dropping on the floor. Anyone could've picked them up.
had to have been Norris or Palmer
The ending of this movie is a healthy shock to the Gen Z system. No concrete answer, no resolution, no post-credit tease, no sequel.
My uncle thought Childs was the Thing because he said he was drinking one of the explosives. It wasn’t wine. I didn’t notice it. But when he said that we all rewound the vhs and were shocked. Also, Stella, you’re perfect. 💜💜💜
What a movie to come upon y'all's spinoff channel, and the perfect time of year to upload it: when there's no ice or cold to speak of.