The Texting Suicide Case Of Michelle Carter & Conrad Roy - Podcast #94
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- TRIGGER WARNING: In this episode, we discuss the topic of suicide and mental health illness. Viewer discretion is advised.
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In this episode, we discuss the controversial texting suicide case of Conrad Roy and Michelle Carter. Michelle Carter, is the Massachusetts woman convicted of urging her boyfriend to kill himself through a series of sickening text messages.
Time Stamps:
1:29 - Doctors Officially Freeze and Reanimate a Human Being for the First Time
6:14 - Is Environmental Activist Greta Thunberg a Time Traveler?
15:26 - Michelle Carter & The Death of Conrad Roy
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The fact that she listened to him die on the phone then acted innocent and clueless towards his family is extremely disturbing. I think we can all agree that if we listened to someone we supposedly cared about die, it would be an emotionally scarring event. I don't know, I just feel like she exhibited some major signs of being a sociopath and narcissist.
Heroema that bitch
Totally agree
I totally agree. This is such an important point, especially as she's been given an earlier release date. If she could act the grieving, innocent girlfriend so completely as she did, couldn't she just as easily act the part of just a poor little girl who had an adverse reaction to her meds?
I think it would be very interesting to know how her life pans out in a few years. I just hope that she doesn't meet anyone else who is vulnerable.
I agree, she exhibits a lot of signs of being a sociopath, like feigning an emotional attachment to Conrad when it was convenient. Lying to suit her own gain, using the death of a friend to her own gain. Using her relationship with Conrad as a way to insert herself into his family's grieving process...
All of these things scream sociopath and now that she's essentially gotten away with it I wonder if we'll see her on the news in 10 yrs for murder...
Exactly! These comments claiming she was mentally ill too 🙄 no, she has no feelings. She wanted the attention after the fact and it was very obvious by her behavior. So sickening
The lava lamp meshing into the background is tripping me out... Lol
Sammi McDabberpants I prefer it in the forefront😫
Yes! 🤣😂
Sammi McDabberpants in
Same
I was thinking the same thing... it is an amazing lava lamp I want it
This case made me so mad. She manipulated and talked him into taking his own life. I don't care if she had issues too, you don't do that. She totally deserved to be in prison
Ur right she did have issues, serious issues. You gotta have issues to do some sick stuff like that for sure
I feel like she should have to pay the ultimate price....Her life.....An agonizing death...What an evil person!!!!
Maybe Conrad did realize she was pushing him and it was more validation for him that no one really cared about him and that everything would be less painful if he just left
Lexi Tyler that is what I am thinking. It is a sad way to go to know that the one you love does not want you to live as well. He must have had sad moments before death and that is the worst she done in my opinion.
I was just thinking this!
Very good point. That's the only encouragement hes ever gotten. Kendall is absolutely right she eventually is OVER his depressing texts and decides maybe if he did pass away it would be better for HER she doesnt care about him she wasnt out of her mind she was clouded by INSANITY
I truly think this as well.
Wow this is such a good point! I didn't even consider this! So sad for him! :(
At the ABSOLUTE LEAST Michelle is guilty of emotional abuse.
@Anthony Lopez why r u commenting on so many things?? She did some really bad shit that ended in someone dying and she needs to learn a lesson from it, so she probably needed prison because she still carried on even after he died. She was an abuser, simple as. He was ill- not weak or a loser. And his parents, as far as I know, didn't do anything, they just parented him and there's a pretty limited amount they could do in this situation, especially since they didn't know what she was doing to him.
@Anthony Lopez your way of thinking isnt some globally accepted law of nature rule that everyone follows. EVERYONE is different and doea things differently. Some people are soft and othera hard or a mix. No two persons are 100% alike. So DONT state how someone that was menrally ill should handle emotional abuse.
I feel like she was living vicariously through Conrad. Maybe she was suicidal but she was too scared to do it so she was pushing him to do it in order to live through him in a sick, twisted way?
thats a really good point...
Emma Bunch-Benson the way she was texting him seemed like that’s how she truly felt and she was just pushing it on him. Such a sad situation ☹️
Like a twisted Christmas sweater, if you want to be creative with it.
Heyieasha girl you are so smart tbh
yeah and she did seem to have symptoms of mania which would've clouded her judgement
If a medical doctor can’t assist with suicide with a terminal ill patient, this girl should TOTALLY be held accountable for her actions.
Channy Whocares they are. Haven’t you ever heard of Dr. Kevorkian? He’s literally known as Dr. Death bc he helped assist with 130 terminally ill patients with dying when they were in their final stages. He was on trial for Murder 2. Doctors can not assist in suicide for terminally ill patients who have a reason to end it vs suffering. If Medical MD’s can not assist in suicide and if they are held accountable, so should this girl.
That’s a diff scenario though. That’s them physically supplying you or assisting with suicide. That’s why this was such a crazy case because she wasn’t ever with him she just texted. It should def be murder or atleast manslaughter but the doctor thing and this is still different scenarios.
She was also mentally ill, it's not that simple.
You can't compare a medical professional to a mentally ill teenager.
those are two separate things but yes she should be held accountable for encouraging him to kill himself
this is like an early christmas present. mhp on a Tuesday? I was having the roughest day, ty guys
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Same here - hope ur day gets better friend!!
I know i was like what its not Wednesday... or is it? 🧐
Saaaame. hope ur day manages to get better 🌼
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Shout out to everybody battling with their own mind. You’re inspirational.
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Guys whatever you decide to do for the 100th episode please make it LONG. I love to rewatch your 2+ hour long Anunnaki episode.
Y e s!!!! I do hope u guys make episode 100 super special, LONG, maybe do it L I V E? Might be fun!
@@themelissaeileen it would be great if they did a live episode in the future
I love having the long ones also. My radio in my car decided it didn't want to work anymore. I drive an hour to work and I like listening. It is sad that half my trip back home i have to be in silence
@@user-rm8vk4ls1y you said it Ben!! 👏👍❤️
Yep, I totally agree. I love listening to a long & deep dive into a case while I'm working
I work in the operating room in a hospital and I’m on the open heart surgery team. During cardiac bypass surgeries we actively cool the humans internal body temperature and sometimes even pack the brain with ice. And then the patient is put on a machine called the heart lung machine that stops the heart completely to be able to operate on the heart. So the patient is basically dead while open heart surgery. And then we re warm the patient after they come off the machine so this isn’t completely a new concept. But I love that it’s included.
Erica Theviking that is so cool! Pun unintended.
Yes we basically induce hypothermia
Erica Theviking I bet you do ma’am
Is this what they do for triple bypass surgery too? I’m curious bc my father in law just had that surgery a few days ago and that is very interesting to me but sounds scary
Yes! I had open heart surgery, and i used to think it was cool to tell people ive been dead 😂 but thats what i was thinking, that theyve been doing that kind of stuff. My surgery was in 1997.
A big thing we need to consider in this case is the “but for” test. “But for the actions of the accused, would the victim be alive?” and you could definitely argue yes he would be. He fact that he hesitated and she pushed him proves this.
Although I agree she should be held accountable, the truth is he tried to drag her down with him and his behavior was equally dangerous to her. If she would've agreed to be his "Juliet" they'd both be gone. No winners in this sad story.
@@divinecommerce3912 he’s dead & she is not
@@MerMary222 basically….
Y’all immediately go to Passengers but my first thought is Austin Powers being frozen and brought back in the 90s 😂
I swear 😂😂😂
The first thing that came to my mind was Alien
Same 😂
I'm a depressive person like that and honestly what saved me was weed. I still get unbelievably sad but I smoke my brains out. Don't know if it's the healthiest alternative but it saved my life. Literally.
midnight t0ker Hey, I hope you’re doing alright. I was depressed from my 14th up until 7 months ago (I’m 21 now). I noticed a significant turning point in my way of looking at the world and looking at myself after trying truffles with a good friend. I’m glad to hear you found something to ease your pain, I want to remind you that everything always ends up working out. You need to allow change to take place and I know how hard it is and how easy it is to say but really, try to let go.
Tanisha Groeneveld This was so sweet, Thank you so much. I appreciate this more than you’ll ever know. I am so glad you got out of it, It comes in waves for me as I get older. Much love to you.
Keep going and make little rituals out of mundane actions in your day. You’re worthy of peace. If you feel the lows like described in this podcast I suggest trying what helps me: clean a room in your house, like really clean it and dust it and fold your laundry and straighten your closet. Try aromatherapy like a new scented candle or body wash. Listen to music without lyrics while you smoke and scribble with a sharpie on white paper. Take a walk outside without any music or phone and ground yourself by saying out loud 5 physical things around you. I hope you have a good day. 🌹
I'm in your same boat, I've been stoned for probably 7 years straight and I'm thoroughly thinking I need a break for my brain development... I'm stuck in the same place I was 7 years ago and it upsets me more that I'm practically useless being depressed and fucked beyond belief trying to escape instead of growing... idk
Weed helps me a lot to. I lost one of my daughters and couldn’t even think about life but had to keep going for my other daughter. And weed worked way better then the meds that made me feel like a zombie.
I have bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety and I would never do that. She knew what she was doing and this just makes me sick!! She makes me sick! I think she deserves more time than she got!!
It would be cool to hear how josh listens and helps you get through your struggles, Kendall. Like if he hasn’t gone through these things, in what ways does he support you? He’s such a good guy and it’s VERY obvious he loves you SO much ❤️
Maybe we will share that in the future! He’s my angel, I’d love to talk about that
I agree completely, my boyfriend struggles to relate to what I do and I feel bad because I don’t know how to tell him to help me and he gets frustrated
Man.. that video diary he did absolutely broke my heart. All he wanted was to be successful and have a family and be happy. He knew he had so much to offer to someone and that he was nice almost too nice. He did have so much to offer and I just wish he could be here to see that
Having lost my only sibling to suicide when I was 15, the message at the beginning really warmed my heart, thank you both so much❤️❤️❤️
I feel for you. Åsa lindström.
For anyone out there who may be feeling suicidal, just know that you can overcome this. I was very depressed last year and way very lonely. I had gone through a breakup after 5 years, lived on my own in a city on my own and no family or friends nearby. This was during the peak of Covid where everyone was on lockdown for several months, and I had little communication to anyone. My loneliness and depression overtook me, and I decided I needed a distraction. It may seem silly, but I got a puppy. He gave me a reason. Even though I wasn’t allowed to have pets in my apartment, I registered him as a support animal. He gave me a reason to get up in the morning, go outside to get fresh air and take him for walks or to the dog park, and someone to spend time with. Even to this day, after a year and a half, he is the biggest blessing in my life. When I was on the brink of suicide, my only thoughts were that I couldn’t leave him alone… we were all each other had. Anyway, just know that there are reasons to live, it may just take some searching, and please remember to not isolate yourself, that’s the worst thing you can do. There are people here to talk to and support you ♥️
Thank you for speaking up about the huge psychological benefits of having a pet. 5 cats later and I could never, ever leave them alone. No matter what I'm feeling. So I can attest to everything you're saying! ❤
The fact that you mentioned a pet and how bad isolation makes it 👏 ❤
Lol Greta ain't a time traveler, she literally looks like the average Swedish girl which is why she looked like that girl from centuries ago.
@Channy Whocares lol or that XD
I swear people who get too entrenched in the conspiracy world kind of loss a grasp in reality sometimes
Joshua Fuhrman they were just discussing theories because it’s fun to think out of the box. They didn’t say they hundred percent believe that. They were just discussing it.
I didnt even see the girl! I only nocticed the weirdly strange head of the animal in the back
@Blossom데이지 maybe but it could also just be a doppelganger. Even at this very instant, science tells that that we have at least 2 people somewhere in this world who are our doppelgangers
I have a theory thats shes actually a wooden little puppet called Gretanocchio
This case was so crazy. I feel like she went above and beyond to encourage him. At the very minimum she knew he was in danger at that moment and could have called authorities but chose not to.
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Michelle Carter deserved A WHOLE SHIT LOAD more time than she got!!!! She's nothin but a cold hearted ruthless bitch!! Imo.... There NEEDS to be a law against THIS EXACT SPECIFIC THING!!!! Sumthin ALONG the lines of accessory after the fact....
(SOMETHING along those lines)
Listening to those texts makes me sick to my stomach... It's such an awful feeling. I can imagine how gray and confusing his world was. Like a living nightmare.
i have felt suicidal before and i have always told myself i don't have the courage to actually do it, because i don't and i never will. I believe that Conrad did not have the courage to actually do it until Michelle gave him that courage to end his life. Heartbreaking. I wish conrad was here, i would like to have a conversation with him and i wish somebody knew that this was happening.
I NEVER comment but
About 2 years ago my best friend was going through a tough time with mental illness. She depended on me a lot, I felt I had to be strong only for her, my whole life became consumed by trying to make her feel better and get her help that I got stuck in a bad place myself. In the end I had to no longer be friends with her for my own sanity and wish her the best (she’s fine btw)
I don’t suffer with mental illness, so I can image how Michelle was feeling dealing with her own mental illness problems and her boyfriends. I do believe she wanted to help him in the beginning but turned selfish for her own recovery, which is necessary, she emotionally couldn’t deal with Conrad depending on her.
I’M NOT DEFENDING HER AT ALL I think they were both in desperate need of help and them relying on eachother so much was a toxic mix.
Really anxious to post this so please don’t come for me.
Love the podcast💖💖
So no one thought about it could be her ancestor? I have a picture of my great great grandmother born in 1895 and we look very much a like. It’s pretty common
That's what I thought too. Sophie and Hans Scholl are my ancestors and my cousin looks exactly like sophie. Were also related to Dr. Scholl, like the foot guy, but nobody looks like him haha
Am I The only one that noticed the strange creature in the back?
Konnie Wiggins how are you related to them?
I’m pretty sure a lot of us think that, trust me lol you’re not alone.
@@newyorklights7339 I think it’s a dog moving when the picture was taken... but who knows. 👻
This case *angers* me. In January it'll be 12 yrs that my husband and I lost an amazing friend to suicide. We met bc he kept wanting us to meet. 12 yrs.... And I'm not even *close* to being "over" it. Because of Adam I met my husband.... And we're expecting our 1st baby in January.... A boy. And his middle name will be Adam. Who tf does she think she is?!
Klarissa Ann I’m so sorry for your loss. Congratulations on your beautiful baby boy 💕
@@rilesfomiles8662 thank you so much 💗💗
Sorry for your loss, I completely agree, I’ve noticed how some SO or even those around someone who either unexpectedly died or committed suicide will get so much attention of it and they will post and post (which is fine) but then a month or two later it’s like they’ve completely forgotten what happened
I know someone who committed suicide and was coached by a stranger online who was posing as a female nurse. She thought she was getting help but then it turned into the "nurse" telling her how to do it. Turns out, it was some male creep in another country that was getting satisfaction from it. Her parents had to fight so incredibly hard for him to be caught and even when he was, they had to fight even harder for him to be charged.
My best friend committed suicide last October, and I hate any attention I get from it. I barely could speak up to my professors asking for patience in class. Seeking that attention out is truly insane to me.
The insides of the lava lamp moving that much makes me happy and it’s satisfying. I didn’t see it move in the last podcast .
But can you jus do us a solid and center it . Make it be right in the middle of the screen, right in the middle of your logo. It would make me feel better lmao 😆 I know it sounds silly
Cristal Quintana no it doesn’t, it’s irking me too! Lol 😆
It's covering "mile" in their logo in this video. Oops! Lol
We love you guys anyway
Agreed!!
OCD is real
This case makee me sooo angry, so angry.
Me too ! So disgusting
He felt so alone and all he needed was someone to assure him that he wasn’t :( my heart hurts.
Ummm yeah because it’s fucking disgusting and you should be disgusted and angry.
I grew up with her and it always shocked me how many people still supported her after everything happened
Ugh that makes me sick. To think she has so many people fooled.
I’m home sick from work due to my chronic illnesses flaring up today this boosted my mood so much 🥺
The Conrad case makes me feel so sad, I’m from MA and this case was everywhere
My sister and conrad were both with/in contact with people who they thought cared for them, in their final moments, yet they were really alone. Breaks my heart.
Thank you for talking about mental health. Regardless what happens with this case, as a society, we need to talk more openly about mental illness so more people get help.
She was never trying to help him, there was never any “flip”
Even when she told him to go to the hospital for mental help, she punctuated it with saying he’s only “all talk” about suicide
She was always slightly nudging and grooming him , the entire way imo
As a parent of a son, this was incredibly hard to hear about. All I could think was “ what if this was my son.” I can’t muster up ANY sympathy for Michelle. I think she should spend her life in a psych ward at the very least. 💔
My heart literally shattered when Connor kept talking about how he would never achieve anything. It’s so sad, this situation is horrible. She literally got a slap on the wrist. This angel left in pain, he never got the chance to heal, so why should she?
I know this may sound really strange but is it possible that if she so obsessed with glee could she be trying to be like Rachel actor (I forgot the actor name) who boyfriend, who was also her boyfriend in the show, committed suicide.
yeah, in the documentary they talked about that. i think you can find it on youtube or at least some parts of it
yeah she might have seen the empathy that lea got and wanted the attention, i don't think its because she wanted to be like her though, because Cory overdosed accidentally
I was thinking this too. I know this is an old comment but I googled when Corey (from glee) passed away and it was was July 13, 2013 and Conrad passed away on July 13, 2014. Could have nothing to do with anything but I thought that was strange.
You guys need to cover the Thomas brown case. A police cover up but the state just got involved and declared it a homicide and fired the sheriff. When they found his body a teacher (who’s son was one of Thomas’s friend) committed suicide. His phone was found a year or 2 later with no water damage or sun damage. They had a harsh winter and hot summers so there’s absolutely no way the phone was in perfect condition on the dirt floor. They’re closing in fast! I live very close and the surrounding towns are putting up signs for justice.
Wow I've heard about this case, but not in this much detail. I cried when you guys reenacted Conrad's last few hours. It's so sad that he literally got out of the truck and then got back in when she convinced him to.. ugh so frustrating!
Hey idk if you talked about this before but you should really look into the amber wright case she was a girl who was 15 and got her ex boyfriend brutally murdered and is currently doing time in prison its a pretty crazy case with a lot of people involved I saw it the other day on piers morgan show
Prince Castro I’ve never heard of this case!
Omg! That’s so horrible!!!
I have to look that up later.
I really hope they do cover it! Maybe you could contact them via Twitter or possibly email??
It definitely sounds like something they’d be interested in... And something Kendall would do a video on!
@@sophiecat14 if you have netflix watch piers morgan women killer and he's just interviewing this girl from jail name Amber Wright wnd they interview the parents n everything its kinda weird cause she didn't kill him I don't think? I think she just set him up to get killed by her current boyfriend and brother but I don't think she physically touched him at all ans she got a life sentence they were gunna give her the death penalty but she was too young at the time she was 15 shes like 20 something now
@@sophiecat14 I sorta feel bad for her in a strange kinda way. She's super young still and doing life in prison I feel like her sentence was kind of harsh. She said in the interview that she talked to her mom and basically told her that she doesn't see herself doing the full sentence because she plans on killing herself. I feel bad but people say I shouldn't cause she's a monster. But she was 15 at the time and didn't even kill him herself she just told him to come over and other people killed him.
I second that, that story is insane.
In Russia we have a law - article 110 of the criminal code "Incitement to suicide". I think this is exactly what she did.
This case hurts my soul. I feel so bad for Conrad’s family. He was right, he had so much to give, but unfortunately at a weakened state of mind he was taken advantage of by a very disturbed person. In a tiny way I feel bad for Michelle too. She helped someone commit suicide. That’s gotta be a pretty ugly demon to carry around you for the rest of your life. That fact will never change.
We do that in the ICU it's called therapeutic hypothermia.
They actually did something similar to me after a severe car accident! I never really knew what it was until now!
My daughter went through cooling therapy this year after loss of oxygen at birth. They thought she would have severe brain damage and I totally think the cooling treatment helped!
I was going to say the same thing, they did that to my uncle after he had a heart attack
The hbo documentary really does a great job of explaining the relationship dynamic between conrad and michelle. After watching it I actually found myself sympathizing with michelle. By no means do I think her words pushing him to commit suicide were right, but there is so much more to the story than what the media shows. The documentary is fantastic and definitely worth watching.
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This was a huge trigger. I knew going in. My heart is broken for both of these people and their families. We need more to offer for mentally ill people.
Listened to this episode earlier when I was at work. Extremely interesting and disturbing case
Obsessed with Glee.
It was coming up to the anniversary of Corey Monteiths death. In a morbid way of thinking maybe she wanted to be the Lea Michelle and be the girl who lost a boyfriend?
Very obvious given her texts - but maybe a relation?
I might get to class late just to listen to my fav podcast
I cant/wont talk about how medication could have affected Michelle's mental state or motives, but I can speak about my own personal experience with antidepressants as a teenager. I'm diagnosed bipolar and currently on medication that has saved my life - but when I was 12 - 14 I was put on Zoloft and then Prozac later. They didnt know then (I'm 37 now) that these medications were harmful to teens. My bipolar skyrocked on these meds to the point of self-harm and attempted suicide. These meds made my bipolar 10x worse and nearly killed me. I was quite literally insane, logic and common sense were non-existent. For those who dont know what mania looks/feels like, for me it was being so full of energy that not only did I not need sleep for 2-3 days straight (and when I did sleep it would be a nap) but I couldnt sit still at all. I would literally be dancing and jumping up and down for hours while cleaning every room in the house. It was like I could feel currents of electricity coursing through my veins. When I was able to sit down and concentrate I'd stay up for 48hrs straight writing or drawing non-stop. Some times I was doing 5 things at once and others I was obsessively focused on just one thing. In either case I felt like I couldnt stop even if I'd wanted to. While in mania I felt euphoric - not positive or happy like life was great or anything, I still hated myself and my life and was still self-harming - but just full of excited energy. I'd be jumping up and down with all this energy while crying with deep self-hatred. Like I said I was literally insane, no logic. I definitely didnt think the meds were helping but I was told to keep taking them because they needed time to take effect. Egg was on their face when I eventually OD'd on them. Like with Conrad and his attempt with Tylenol, I was immediately taken to the hospital before any damage was done. Throughout the years I've had mania "flare-up's" but nothing as extreme as what I went through in my teens.
Hi Alizza, I have those same symptoms that I had as a teen. What meds worked for u or CBT treatment worked for u? I’m trying to get my symptoms under control.
@@brandyrazo9608 I take low doses of Paxil and Seroquel that help with my chemical imbalance and I've done - and still continue to do - a ton of mental health work to heal the psychological issues.
I went on Zoloft at 16 and it was a mess I lost so much weight and stayed hella depressed
Yeah they basically froze my father-in-law because his aorta dissected out of nowhere. So they kept him very very cold in a fridge type thing to keep him alive for a few hours while they prepped for open heart surgery! So weird.
Harli G That is insane!
Praying for you and your family!!
Omg that's crazy and cool at the same time lol. You listen to this podcast!! ❤🌱
You ain't dead till your warm and dead which is how they saved him. Cool concept. Hahaha
Therapeutic hypothermia
Every time I hear this case it makes me so sad and mad at the same time. She is one messed up girl for encouraging him and deserves nothing but the worst for the rest of her life.
My daughter was 10 and was being groomed by an old guy on minecraft who called himself ‘big daddy’.
It’s taken years for her to now understand how dangerous that was.
OMG its only Tuesday I'm so happy.
Goin' up on a Tuesday! 😅😎
Unfortunately, there will be more stories like this. So sad.
take a hit every time josh says "totally"
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came back to watch some old podcasts while i clean, pack, and get ready...AND YOU GUYS UPLOADED💜💜💜just made my day so much better
This is the most in-depth take I've seen on this yet and I'm so glad I watched it. It's heart-wrenching because I was that kid who was in so much pain I just wanted to die I felt so alone and so different from everyone else and I'm so glad that I stuck it through because now I have a family of my own and I'm happier than I ever could have imagined. Just saying that brought up tears.
“Quotes from Glee” yikes. Glee is literally one of the creepiest shows of all time.
Episode 94!!!! Unbelievable guys! Your dedicated & hardwork definitely show big time! TY both! I just ordered my miler higher t-shirts & my MONQ diffuser, TY Kendall! Your podcasts are always awesome! ✌️❤️👍👏
I love your channel and I'm so grateful that you guys put out videos. I find every video you guys make fascinating, informative and interesting. You guys have quite literally saved my life a few times- I suffer from mental illnesses and I am so proud to be called a subscriber. Thank you for making content and I hope you don't stop.
I, too, suffer with mental illness. It is awful fighting with your own mind every single day! Hugs to you!!
The Conrad story has been a BIG local story here (New Bedford/Dartmouth) Such a sad series of events but I think the girlfriend has gotten off too easily... what she’s done is disgusting and she needs to face a proper punishment to really realize the magnitude of her actions.
*wow this episode went real quick. felt like I was only watching for 15 minutes lol*
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Here before 800 views. I'm upset she didn't get more time, this will be a reoccurring theme as more young women to play off of her story and the minimum responsibility in her actions also. I'm more annoyed about his families action towards her.
Janelle is so funny ! She’s a great addition
And gorgeoussss
As a person who’s struggles with depression and anxiety of the major for 10+ years and I didn’t even understand it until I was 19 and now I’m very into mental health and the mind. I feel for both sides. But definitely she deserves to be institutionalized and rehabilitated.
My God, this case is heart breaking.
I wonder if the people who think she's not to blame in any way, would have wanted her to have nice encouraging talks with their loved ones if they were suicidal.
When you said “I’m really happy in my life, why am I feeling this way” was me for the last 8 months bc of ppd. Our minds are so crazy
Conrad sounded so sweet in his video, it makes me sad. He could have found someone that loved and cared for him :(
Wow. I always heard about this story but never heard the actual text messages that were exchanged. The girl is demented
You guys uploaded right in time!!! Thank you! Also EXCELLENT topic!
I have bipolar depression and severe anxiety and I take a mood stabilizer and a depressant and I can say that I’ve been on many over the years and it does not make you so messed up that you tell someone to kill themselves and encourage them. Especially when it was over days and days and she had every chance to stop it. She definitely deserved to be prosecuted and she deserved to get a longer sentence cause Conrad would still be alive if it weren’t for her. With that being said, this is such a sad case and I hope Conrad is resting in peace ❤️
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The worst kind of sick person is the one who's actions are:
•destructive
•selfish
•willing to go all the way regardless of people around
And no mental illness can excuse actions like hers. She could've chosen art, sports, writing, any martial art. But no! He was *her* puppet in her wicked show, with her own end game, her own twisted love story. His death is her triumph over the world. She knit her own reality, with some dark kind of wire, some blood stained wire and it hurt people.
Someone who's in an empty space emotionally, and abusive because of it should get help. Not hurt anyone else!
Anyone here 2 years later after “the girl from plainville” on Hulu?
Still cant believe shes getting out soon
This happened in my state. I just heard of another case just like this interesting to see what happens with the new one
I live less than a mile from the parking lot he took his life in. Everyone I know wants blood.
I live in the same county Norfolk County i was shocked at the sentencing
didn't catch this currently watching it much love Kendall and Josh 💖🙏
What she did is almost worse then killing someone. Making someone believe they are correct in that they shouldn't be alive, that their family will get over it "in a week or two", and that they are wasting precious time by questioning which day to actually kill themselves. She made him feel comfortable in death when he was completely capable of living a healthy and happy life.
When your a teenager everything feels like it will last forever even without mental help problems...
I feel with time, the right medication, and support/therapy he would be a happy young man today. SO SAD.
She deserved more then 2 yrs! She is disgusting.
Rewatching this episode because of Girl from Plainville
This situation happened to my son. He survived thankfully but once I got into all of his social media I saw that one girl was convincing my son and another boy that if they didnt kill themselves then Tony (her demon friend) was going to kill her. The whole thing started in Oct with her showing them her bruises and scrapes that Tony gave her and by December both boys attempted suicide. This story hits so close to home.
The boys were 12yo and I felt like a shitty mom but now I know stuff happens and we have learned so much from this.
Is your son ok, and is the other day ok
@@daisyjoy242 yes thank goodness. He turns 15 tomorrow and I couldn't be more thankful
I honestly think she got off easy. Conrad was having doubts and he kept putting it off. I feel like if she didn't encourage him then he'd still be alive. The fact that she changed from trying to get him help to convincing him to kill himself so quickly is definitely odd though.
I’m so excited! I have something to listen to at work! 🤗🤗🤗
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Conrad has always come off as so sweet and so fucking smart but dealing with a lot of internal turmoil. I would have loved to have known him and helped him realize he might be small but we all are, and the things he accomplished and the person he was mattered. Wish we would have known what the world would be with him in it. Rip Conrad, you are missed so much more than you ever could have imagined
When this story first happened I was appalled someone could be so evil. Now as a mother thinking of someone doing this to my child. It upsets me so deeply. I can’t even put it into words. She is a different level of evil
I remember back in high school I was really depressed and suicidal. I had a friend who was suicidal also and he said he was going to kill himself constantly every day over and over. I believed him and wore myself out trying to make him better and make him not hurt himself. At some point I just broke and I could keep holding him up when I couldn’t even hold myself together so I stopped encouraging him and I just let him talk that way and I knew he wasn’t going to do it he just wanted attention. I never told him to do it or anything but I can totally understand getting to a point where you’re just like “okay buddy. We’re both at the bottom now. Put your money where your mouth is if you’re REALLY that depressed” to make someone admit they aren’t going to do it or make someone admit they need help or something to that affect. Not condoning what Michelle did AT ALL that was horrific but I sort of understand her breaking point and maybe after that she just took it way too far.
Omg early episode make me question what day it is 😂
I love it
I watched the outcome of the trial on Foxtel ID. I am sooo mad at the outcome. The legal system let him down. She should have gotten a longer sentence!
Thanks for this one, great topic!!
I literally HAVE to fall asleep to your podcast lol and during the day i come here and watch it. You guys are so awesome 😭 would you guys think of a meet and greet in LA California ?
Me too!! What part of LA? I was born & raised in Norwalk ♡♡♡
Northeast Angeles :) ayyye I’ve been to Norwalk lol
Everytime there’s a picture of someone in the past who looks like someone now everyone says time travel but what if it’s immortality.
Immortality?
Jaime K yes 🤣
I've honestly had the worst week of my entire life (I wish I was kidding) so thank you guys for uploading today, I needed a break. 💙
Big hugs. Hope you're doing better❤
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I love your podcasts!!!! Especially now it gets me thru being home recovering from lung surgery.
Conrad also would psychologically torture Michelle. He would text her that he was going to kill himself then not answer her calls or texts for long periods of time. His sick games and constant dismissal of her offers to help might have created a breaking point for a girl who couldn't handle breaking off the connection however toxic it was. Also, psychological medications have the most severe side effects on teenage brains. There is such a huge chemical imbalance it makes it very hard for medications to be effective and NOT harmful. Is she guilty of assisting in his suicide, absolutely. But she's not the only guilty party, unfortunately the other person who pushed the agenda died in a car with a generator.
Why can't we see Janell ever!?!?!?
(sorry For most likely butchering the spelling)
Cause we don’t have a set up for her yet! Once we’re in the studio we will!
@@MileHigher yay!! Cant wait. We love her take on things too! 😍
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COVER THIS OMGOMGOMG
Won't she be done for keeping information from the police? She knew where he was when he was reported missing, but acted like she had no idea.
I got ridiculously excited when I saw this notification. This case truly fascinates me - So happy I got to hear your opinions on this. Thanks for always supplying such amazing content 🙌🏻