Why China's Energy Megaprojects Matter To Us All
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So many contentious topics being brought up here (climate change, China in general, goods manufacturing, and data/fact presentation), but I think the video does well to highlight some of the positives to people who may otherwise be unaware of what China is doing in terms of its energy production and ambitions.
Absolutely!
Yeah but what a homosexuals one China?
@@J-SH06 dead.., they should migrate to the west..
Are you serious? the tone of this piece is of that it is all china to blame when all western nations per capita CO2 emissions are still higher how is this never even mentioned in the piece? This literally shifts the blame to developing and third world countries with the saying that western nations will all meet their CO2 schedule in the near future. People in the global south will not meet those goals anytime soon because they are barely developed and it cost energy to become an developed country.
@@Mikketamakulo Good points Mikke.
When talking about GDP, Western countries like the idea of per capita. When talking about emissions, the West don't even mention about emissions per capita.
Hypocrites
right
So true
may be this page is spreading propaganda
True. India and China is always blamed whereas the environmental damages, wars and genocides done by the "West" is mind blowing shame to the whole human civilization
90% of the items in my house are made in China.. so I don't view their emissions so much as 'theirs' but as *ours*.
Thank you
based. many dont understand that. Its the factory of the world.. so every country producing in there is also guilty.
American investments never complained about the emissions as long as revenues were inline. I'm glad China made enough money to enable the movements into the next generations of technology, and clean energy.
@@kabysummit5801 Our investments there already enabled them to create an industrial base of their own. So it's better we pull out and bring them back here.
@@samuelefesoa7317 completely agree. in principle, we need more good jobs onshore. in practice, the American leadership whether in the public or private sectors have to work together to make this happen.
Before blaming China consider this:
1. historically and cumulatively the West has seven times more emissions than China. The west must take responsibility for the damage they made while getting rich!
2. Per capita Canada, Australia the US . have double emissions of China... right now 35 other countries also have higher emissions than China
2. Collectively the developed countries right now have lesser population than China but greater CO2 emissions than China
3. China produces 30% of worlds goods so the rest of the world should stop exporting their emissions or should be responsible for emissions too...Stop consuming so much stuff!!!
4. China is poorer than the US but invests 3 times more in renewables than the US and is the world leader in solar and wind
5. The West industrialized much earlier and their Carbon emissions peaked in 1979 while China’s will peak before 2030, this means that China will be decarbonized 50 years faster than the west!
China just became the wealthiest country in the world though, granted westerners still need to lower their carbon footprint to at least the level of the Chinese for us to have a chance.
That figure btw, does not include co2 emissions from the US military.
@@BugJuiceFlavor As an American, up to this moment you have cumulative emissions double that of China, you covered up the climate change for 50 years to extract money and influence and you destroyed the planet in the process. You personally are at this very moment responsible for twice as much emissions as the average Chinese and yet you have the gall to blame them. What chutzpa!
You shift the blame in order to escape responsibility and frame your opponent while the world is collapsing around us. A true American!
@@alexlazar4738 President Xi would like to send you 5000 social credit points.
@@lagarto83 Great counter argument! So intelectual!
Greenhouse gas emissions %
China 27% - population 1.4 billion
Usa 11% - population 330 million
And people want to blame china?
Half the pop of China live on less than 1 dollar a day in villages without modern amenities. But you never see that in the news do you
@@salamandiusbraveheart4183 where do you see that news ? Twitter ?
@@salamandiusbraveheart4183 flat out lies.
@@salamandiusbraveheart4183 that's a flat out lie
See, this is just another geopolitical tool for the west to stop China, and other emerging economies. They are not happy with China since China is not dependent on the western corporates anymore. The West will always, in a sophisticated manner, try to scuttle development of other countries if it does not suit their companies. What they want to say is "Oh you are polluting too much! Let us help you with Wind power, Nuclear power! Now pay for that, and also for maintenance!" . They cannot flat out invade countries now and enslave populations as they used to do , so this is the next best thing.
Great video overall. But I feel it is unfair to talk about China’s emissions without mentioning China is not number one net carbon emitter and not the number one carbon emitter per capita. The west moved its industrials emissions to China and other Asian countries, and now like to point fingers at them. I lived in the US for a couple of years, and the way Americans waste electricity is mind boggling
100% agree. You could also tack on that China is essentially the factory for the world. I feel the Chinese government is atrocious in some areas, but with them being so proactive about climate change I don't have any concerns they will meet the targets set. America on the other hand has a huge part of the population not even believing in climate change science.
These industries also made what China is today. So there is a trade-off for everything. No one forced China to become the manufacturing plant of the world. The country was one of the poorest at the time, and both the country and its people wanted to make money. There is also no such thing as wasting electricity, if the source of electricity is renewable and affordable. I have solar panels and essentially cut the cost of power to a minimal amount.
@@msion616 "No one forced China to become the manufacturing plant of the world." No, of course they didn't, it's just cheaper and quicker to dump your waste and make stuff there; the cheapest recycling system going for a while, but of course, the West took the mickey - so now they need to find another dump, another poor country to crap on again.
Maybe Jack Shen & jarrod679 are talking about real waste, not using as much power, water, fuel - just general cutting waste, you know the thing USA and the West is renowned for; While you're talking about cutting cost, he's maybe talking about recycling or even, bicycling or using smaller cars, closing windows and doors in the winter or when the AC is on, turning lights off etc. simple stuff.
Who knows, I just walk around shutting doors after kids all day to save wasting electric - gets me riled.
@@Davbach01 There are lots of choices to be made. China made that choice 40 years ago to save its economy and its regime. So yes, the supply and demand are always there. But it could be more dispersed throughout the world as far as manufacturing goes. But instead China decided it wanted all of them. The selling point of China was it's huge and got over a billion of cheap labor. These were all policies made by the central government of China. They clearly didn't think about the environment at that time, even lessons learned from industrial revolution had all taught us the environmental impact of massive industry. So these are the consequences. The history just repeats itself.
@@jayface Not falling for the China is world's factory, thus has more carbon emissions. Bullcrap, its per capita is only 6.5 tons VS the West be 16.5 tons per person. If you have any honesty at all you will admit that the West is the bigger polluter, unless you want to invoke "White Privilege" to claim a higher carbon emission.
You do realize that emissions per capita China is significantly lower than that of America. Most production America did was externalized to China for over a decade, and I don’t think it’s fair to blame all the emissions to one country seeing the consumers of those products are primarily outside of China
What that means is that americans can significantly lower their carbon footprint but choose not to.
I'm very out of depth and sleep deprived, but didn't the situation that allowed or made the movement of industry happen because of China?
Biggest mistake US ever made was moving manufacturing to Asia. They should have moved it to Mexico or South America.
@@salamandiusbraveheart4183 Exactly. I hope that gets corrected
@@AndrewManook Incorrect. The US carbon footprint is so low that they were not required to re-enter the Paris Climate Accord. In comparison to other countries such as Russia, India, and China, the US has the greatest reduction in emissions in the past 20 years.
Nuclear - I noticed you completely omitted to mention China's massive roll out of nuclear power stations. The greenest, cleanest most reliable power to date. $440 Billion over the next 15 years.
Indeed. 150 new nuclear plants
Is nuke suppose to be clean?
@@adis.g6569 it's odd to equal nuclear power plants as nukes.
also, China is investing in many different types of nuclear power plants, including Fusion.
don't know that would be nukes too.
Also these solar freaks fail to mention how wasteful it is to produce solar panels and how unreliable they can be if not paired with proper battery tech. At the end of the day, cheap energy is more valuable to the market than renewable.
@@ericlane3256 that's why they are building and expanding the solar systems into the desert areas where there are more sun time than cloud time.
Another reason why China’s energy projects matter is that other Far East Asian countries will follow suit, as well as to developing countries China has invested in, to an extent.
You are late: China no longer promotes coal energy in the Belt & Road projects
@@JuicerNation Ooo, didn't know that, which ones?
@@pbottomley14 I don't think any country makes any major actions out of altruism
China Shouldn't care about his BS, let the western countries bring their emission down to china's level then we can talk
@@pbottomley14 So you idiots think Developing countries don't deserve progress and the West prosperity should still be on the backs of poor nations? A . h o l e s.
For sure China is now the major emitter of CO2, but how does that compare to Europe's decades (Centuries?) of CO2 emissions? We reached this point not only for China...
@@BugJuiceFlavor Ok, Pretend
@@BugJuiceFlavor industrialized civilizations for the past 300 years*
West started first and many western help other nations to catch up
IKR?!?!? I believe it's UK and USA who have historically released more CO2 to the atmosphere.
This is quite a fair analysis of China's Co2 emission but if you factor in the population of China, I believe they aren't the largest polluters per person.
Their high speed rail network also cut pollution as opposed to a large number of people driving long distances in a petrol car.
calculating per Capita CO2 doesn't solve anything for climate change, it's just for people pushing around blame and responsibility.
It's actually great to have the "problems" concentrated, so you can focus effort in one location solve a very large part of the problem
China shouldn't care about what the west think, if the West is serious about climate change whatever, they should bring their emissions per Capita down to china's level then we talk
@@xXxno6xXx I argue that its the opposite. More people naturally means theres more emissions; but if every single person emitted less pollution then overall in the grand scheme of things....theres less pollution. If you do not capture per capita, then it is an inaccurate view of things since we should be thinking along the lines of the entire world vs just countries alone which can vary in size, industry, and location....which wildly affect nominal numbers.
@@xXxno6xXx Let the US reduce the total carbon emissions at the same level of Vatican first, then come to blame China.
@@vrealzhou As I said: calculating per capita is for pushing around blame.
As en engineer I'm not interested in blame, that's for lawyers and religions.
I'm interested in solutions.
So the way I think about it is like: Where can one dollar of investment can save the most carbon?
If china emits 60% of world CO2 I don't think you are bad people.I think it's great, that we can solve 60% of the problem by making green investments in china to decarbonize your economy, bring your other levels of air pollution (e.g. sulfur, NOx...) down, so you live longer and healthier.
Of course emissions of a country are affected by its citizen count, but the world climate really doesn't care if the gas is released by all of us, one billion of us, one of us or simply gases out the ground (more theoretical case).
Radiative forcing is radiative forcing
The West didn't cut their industrial emission, they just moved it to China.
And yes, China will be the crucial country in fighting climate change, because there is really no other country to take the industrial capacity of China, save some South East Asian countries in low end manufacturing.
A combination of measures must be taken, from carbon capture for existing coal plants, to Thorium molten salt reactor (a revolutionary nuclear fission technology that would allow nuclear energy to be much safer and produces a lot less nuclear waste.)
Mass EV adoption is also a must. Chinese car companies like NIO, have battery swap technology for electric vehicles, which means these battery swap stations can act as power sinks that stores energy from renewable sources during the day, and release it during peak usage hours. integrate this with a smart city system, you'll also make the entire city a green power plant.
So the potential is there, and China certainly has all the right cards
I like this well thought out post. Two point I’d like to add. China has many coal plants new and already installed that work at only 50% capacity. The new plants being built are partly a political fight to keep coal in use. The build it and they will use it philosophy. The USA in a historical measure to date has released more green house gasses than any nation. Yes China is a big emitter today, but since the industrial revolution as a whole the USA is number one.
@@andrewday3206 Just a thought.
Maybe the clever west has just been wilfully ignorant regarding pollution and the environment, paying scant disregard for the damage done, not only to the lands, they pillaged, but the natives used to extract those resources.
Primarily the western cultures behaviour was/is essential to increase and maintain the wealth of the few over the majority and in turn increase and maintain their national economies and hegemony, seem almost the basis for our economic system.
And now the west sits-back, their waste along with their less important manufacturing abilities off shored to far off distant lands, while they pretend their rentier and paper economies built on previous plunder feel they have reduced accountability/responsibility for the environmental impact because their immediate air pollution is improved, so lets point the finger at others (esp China) for not following our example.
The west has/is using/weaponising drugs, terrorism, human rights and now environmentalism to maintain hegemony.
@@andrewday3206 We unfortunately can't do anything about the past. Gone is the time for fairness. We need action.
@@andrewday3206 It is common for power generator station to work less than 50%. First it is efficiency, second is the downtime for maintenance or accident.
@@andrewday3206 50％ use isn't all that surprising, they are supposed to be a safety net. Example when winter people turn on the heater which can be 3000watts or more per heater.
Preparing for more Electric vehicles, as they are popular.
At night where solar panels don't work. Summer as there are less winds as most province in China don't have monsoons low wind turnbine.
Last thing you need is to be like Texas power outage in winter.
Some people just like to shift blame to others, while others try to solve the problem instead
Australia makes up 1.15% emissions with 0.29% of the world population
India makes up 2.89% emissions with 18.2% of the world population
Per capita, Aussie = 25.2 Indians
Besides, Australia is NOT manufacturing industrial products for the world or itself like India.
They do produce a lot of LNG and also there is the huge mining sector. Not saying the per capita is not higher than India or China if you took those out but
I’m sure they contribute.
People in India literally live in middle of streets filled with shit
0:22 What other big countries agreed to phase out coal? Not Australia, India, and the US.
Germany has. Don't know the others
I remember India used phasing down instead of phasing out, which is reasonable considering its industralization still needs coal, other options are too expensive, India simply cant afford it like China.
India is the only country in the Paris agreement who is following its words and reducing climate pollution india has more than 11x the renewable capacity it had in 2011.
As a Chinese, its always so nice to hear some positive news about china, not always the negative on the internet
Check out the other comments, those of us with some knowledge understand that when this video was still quite biased towards the west... I existed a bit more from this channel but they cater to an audience that doesn't like to find out they are wasting a ton of energy and causing harm and pollution all over the world...
All big nations mess with their people's heads. Western and Eastern nations spread crazy propaganda.
China isn’t to blame solely for climate change but each country has responsibilities.
If you look at chinas economy, they actually are very inefficient at manufacturing which causes much waste of energy. While most western countries have slowed down from our industrial revolutions we learned how to be more efficient with our electricity for each task(we still use a crap ton in our lifestyle, that doesn’t mean we aren’t good at using what we use) Each country has propaganda which pushes their agenda however there are some checks and balances in the west for that (it ain’t perfect, nothing is) but in china there are no checks or balances on propaganda.
Same thing happened in Soviet russia, where people couldn’t improve on the system since it’s “perfect” and people can’t talk about politics. Which led to lies and decay behind the scenes through corruption and false reports and eventually a collapse of the party due to its own lying machine.
So how much of chinas renewables are viable and how many of those numbers are true? Can anyone answer that? No since you can’t ever get a straight answer that doesn’t favour the party.
+15 social credit score
@@antsalberta7526 So you are pretty much saying that unless the Chinese people say China Bad what they say aren't reliable as they are always inferior to the west. Because if you can read chinese you can read about problems and issues in China itself from the Chinese media or even from their social media.
Kurzgesagt has a great video shedding light over historical emissions. Worst polluters are by far Europe and North America. Of course China has to adapt and reduce their emissions, but it is an interesting perspective as well.
@@TheAgentOfDeath exactly and we know who's the real biggest polluter
Anyone with basic logic and comprehension would understand that a nation of 1.4 billion will of course have high energy consumption and carbon emission. Not to mention China is quite literally "The world's factory" doing most of the manufacturing for the majority of the consumer goods in the global market, hence even more energy needs and carbon emission than what they would need if they were just aiming for self-efficient.
People in the west only need to ask their grandparents and even parents on how bad the air quality was before all the factories were moved overseas.
I’ve seen NO DIFFERENCE with the air quality between then and now. I’m 59. Climate change is a natural earth cycle and not a change that we will make a difference in attempting to. It’s a farce and one meant to take money from a rich, independent country (America) and hand it over to the next independent country CHINA. Good going to all who believe that’s the right thing to do. You’re succeeding and the world WITH MANKIND will fail in the coming years for doing so.
@@oceanbnd Nothing changed for you because you probably live in a town that is far and away where nothing of interest happens and there were no major industrialization in the first place. How could you be almost 60 and still hold such a narrow view of the world? Unbelievable.
I am there with you. If you look the numbers Each American on average emits more then TWICE as much. China needs to do more but American need to do way more.
@@bobcharles7716 Everyone needs to be pulling their rope if we as a species wants to continue living on earth without resource wars in the future.
@@yutian5884 I agree everyone need to pull. That is why I said China have work to do but the US have more work then China, So does Australia for sure and I think Japan too. It does not help to implying China is to blame. China should not be blamed. China is not the biggest emitter per person. So their policies and their lifestyle in aggregate is NOT the biggest offender. I don't know who is the biggest offender, but the number said the US is twice as offensive as China today.
To be fair, china is not using up all this power on it's own. They produce the bulk of all the energy intensive products that are exported to the US and Europe. Also they have to build housing and infrastructure for hundreds of millions of people. In the western countrys all these building are already in place. And yet still china has much lower CO2 emissions per capita.
They have a very good track record of reaching there goals in time. I am sure china will be faster, no matter what eropean politians do proclaim as there climate goals. Here in germany, there is not a SINGLE wind power genereator beeing build right now after a steady decline over the past years. Now finally it all came to a grinding hold due to bad politics.
Well said
Our coast is extremely well suited for wind, but transporting the energy to the south, where the energy is needed is hard because of environmental concerns. And many local lawmakers oppose building large power lines.
Also, storage has to be built.
I thought germany was developing a lot of tech for clean energy? Or am i getting it confused with switzerland...
If you argue that way, you would also have to take into account the vast amount of Chinese real estate buyers in Europe and North America (just look at Toronto and Vancouver..) as well as the CO2 footprint the usually millions of Chinese create abroad..
@@unbreakableldorado7723 might as well take into account historical CO2 data from the West then.
One thing that shouldn't be forgotten, China is a country of 1,4 billion people. It makes sense why they consume more energy and release more emission than other countries.
The fact that they slowly decreasing their dependence on coal as the main energy source by investing in renewable energies much more compared to other countries, it's remarkable.
And many developed countries depend on their manufacturing needs by what China produces. Developed nations are much more the problem in why China pollutes so much instead of China itself.
This doesn't go in-depth enough. China has 5-year plans and renewable targets are included in those plans. For the past several 5-year plans targets have been set and achieved - more than achieved. China is at 30% renewables and will take time to transition the rest. It also doesn't cover the other green projects like planting trees and turning reclaiming desert land.
China has no plans to transition the rest to renewables, but instead will also invest in green nuclear power plants.
wind, solar and hydro (mega dams) are only temporary solutions for China....I think they plan to go with classic nuclear and then with new thorium molten salt reactors when the technology is completed in 2030s
@@alexlazar4738 probably all. It's better to have multiple type of power source than one, which an emergency would cause a huge power outage.
China's installation of solar power, wind power is much larger than US. China added 30,100 mw new solar power and make the total installation to 204,700 mw in 2019. US added 13,300mw and the total installation was only 60,682 MW in the same year. For the wind power the numbers were 24,928 MW and 236,320mw for China, 8,801 MW and 105,466 MW for US in 2019. CO2 emission per capita: China 7.38 tons, US 15.52 tons, Canada 15.52 tons.
The US has so many more politics going on that making a "green" power plant is harder than just bringing online the plant that's been in the works for a few years. China can push new solar power plants easier than the US.
The National.Grid of China is the combined total of US, India, Russia and Japan put together
As a Canadian I want to say something and I know we shouldn't use any excuse but it is really cold here in the winter. We are doing our best. (The original post doesn't have to mention Canada in its comment but since he called us out I have to apologize)
@@ericchang7326 lol
@@nagi-springfield93 Hey, honestly, my power bill in the winter is four times that of the summer, and my heater has to be on all the time from October to May, it's like at least 60% of my yearly power consumption is for heating, otherwise I will die.
People always "forget" to talk about CO2 emission per capita, because it would give a totally different picture on the matter and require to ask sensible question that nobody dares to ask.
I don't like sensible questions. They hurt my brain. :)
@@THEtubinator66 Most western citizens are like that. They prefer a good lie that comfort their bias rather than an honest question that require them to self reflect.
I mean we should also talk about historical emissions shouldn't we?
@@hidum5779 Haha, no way we could talk about that. Don't you see, no western countries even dare to mention this fact? Moreover, we got the data, we know exactly what the result is.
When you add that to the fact that China pollute so that western developed countries could have blue skies and cheap products, the all situation is pretty obvious.
But citizens of western countries will never agree to reduce their consumption. At least not willingly. Wonder what would happen if tomorrow China decide to not export any goods to the west.
@@wiiistful7499 we're also missing out NOx emissions which don't produce as much smog like CO2 but are much more dangerous than it. Europe still tops the list
This video has avoided talking about per capita and historical carbon emissions from the very beginning. China is a big industrial producer. If China doesn't want to produce those things, why don't other countries use coal?While enjoying cheap Chinese products, demanding China to do this and that.The West never looks at others, never its own problems, at least China's carbon reduction commitment is on target, but what about the United States?What did they do..
You are a smart human being.
As others have pointed out, due to industrial capacity and the amount of emissions it makes, I agree that the battle surrounding climate change is most certainly won with the help of China and likely lost without its cooperation and contributions.
At the same time, the phrasing "the battle to beat climate change is going to be won or loss in China" can be seen as putting the weight of that battle on China's shoulders to carry.
As a US citizen I can say that for decades, by policy, subsidy, and resistance to change the US has been putting its thumb on the scale for losing the battle.
So, while I doubt the battle will be won without China I think it certainly can be lost elsewhere.
"...US has been putting its thumb on the scale...", is that the same as playing the environmental card.
Seems anything and everything is fair game for USA and its minions to use to hobble China at the moment.
@@Davbach01 I was more referring to the US weakening its own clean water act, subsidizing highways and roads heavily over mass transit solutions, reducing the cost of coal by letting coal companies bankruptcy their way out of health and environmental liabilities, etc. etc.
The US does a lot to keep fossil fuel prices cheap and to externalize the impacts from those industries so that they stay quite profitable.
@@coreyhipps7483 I'm sorry, and you make some very valid points with regard to the American approach to her supposed domestic policy.
I was being a little fasciousous; but on a more serious note.
If America would look towards reducing subsidies, improving its mass transit and the other examples, you'd probably split the county, certainly give the west something to think about.
I'm afraid, however, it probably goes too much against the cultural grain of many Americans, and from politicians point of view, very risky, it's not a vote winner.
@@Davbach01 Yeah, the problem is a lot of projects are really half-assed, even the "good ones". So they come in and cost tons of money and then are rarely run at a frequency where you can actually depend on them.
And by depend on them I mean count on a train to be there in a reasonable amount of time if something comes up and you need to leave or return home now.
So many systems are essentially tidal based on the morning and evening commute. But this means they are not really there to be relied upon, they can't really be used instead of other forms of transit.
Agree, especially with Australia mimicking every bad policy decision they see in US, wherever possible 🙄
Blaming China for pollution is like blaming India for recycling old ships... You export you production or salvage operations to these countries then point fingers at them... Its child like behavior.
Even worse when they do things like participle in climate change, you discredit them. Lol I mean it sounds like whether China used green energy or not they are the bad guys
You'll change your tune when the CCP is harvesting YOUR organs. LOL
The USA, Canada and China have a land area that is about the same in size.
The us is massiv in it's own right.
The US Federal Government even owns enough land that if only a fraction of gets used for solar power they could produce enough energy for the entire west coast and the south belt from Texas over to Florida
When talking about castles, the West like to talk about history. When talking about historic cumulative emissions, history is a bad idea instead they blame developing countries which just started.
China has provided massive products with much lower costs but relatively higher qualities for this world. Its stable society environment, comprehensive and developed infrastructure, skilled workers are all important factors of its strong manufacturing. Moreover, they have the largest population , these are reasons why they have the highest green gas emission. But this country has devoted itself into transferring desert into forests, as well as developing renewable energies. Btw it’s footprint in capital is much lower than America and Australia. I cannot find a way to blame it.
You should give the per capita numbers. If you split China into 10 countries each would be an average emitter of CO2.
China is doing something towards renewable energy. What about the close friend of US (India) they are totally left out from these issues yet their air and water are too much polluted compared to any other country in the world.
Last time I checked india has about 1/8 of per capita emission of the US. And India has a higher renewable energy proportion than US.
The world should thank China for producing almost everything for the world. The volume of production also ensure efficency...and therefore saving the rest of the world from emmiting carbon in their own country.
Yes, thanks for all the cheap plastic. (and fish)
Absolutely not lol
Thank china for ruining the environment
I get those are hypocrites lmfao
Basically, if it wasn’t China it’d be someone else.
They use slave labor to do it so we should punish ourselves for using it knowingly and them for having it
I was unaware they had that much green energy places they have so that's cool.
US and Europe was the largest polluter before and still largest polluter by per capita. So it's clear who has to do the most.
The planet doesn't care if it's per capita or not. China IS the biggest polluter but that doesn't mean it's all his fault.... ofc there are many aspects. Don't be the guy who has to blame someone... china is doing great and will do better as well as other nations.
That's about every man is equal, if you have more population, you should have more quota, it's not fair 4% population spent 20% energy.
@@lore00star actually, per capita is important. Most of the current global warming is happening because of the European countries and the us
well then China and other developing countries should not let the per capita emissions reach the levels of the US and EU have now
@@sohamn9555 it hasn't, and that didn't count US military
China is also building 150 new nuclear plants in the next 15 years. More than the global total over the last 35 years. According to Bloomberg anyway. That would be huge.
There is undeniable fact, china is working hardest on clean energy
The two examples given for the use of green hydrogen, namely cars and heating our homes, are precisely the two you do not want to use green hydrogen for. Those two can be done much more efficiently using electricity directly. Green hydrogen is much more useful for industrial applications, such as for the chemical industry for example.
I disagree, gyothermal is the best to heat a home as it will provide consistent temperature year round.
@@KRYMauL geothermal heat pumps make sense absolutely, but they run on electricity. Providing direct geothermal heat to all/a large amount of residences would be incredibly expensive
If you look at it, China is getting from a primary agricultural producer to a net zero country in less than a century. If develop countries had done the same, they will already be net zero, but there was not the will to do it. At least China is trying to do it as fast as possible.
So of the promises given by the developed economies over a decade ago regarding their emissions, who met them and who did not?
Promises are easy, who is doing the action to meet those promises?
Great summary! I‘d just like to add that when looking at historical emissions China, North America and Europe are pretty much even. And in per capita emissions many countries on the Arabian Peninsula are pretty bad as well.
But countries like India Indonesia Bangladesh have way less emissions per capita than the global north. Yet they are the worst sufferer of climate change which is caused by the industrialized countries.
Well, actually no.
Arab countries export fossil fuels. And these are used by those who import it, like china, us or India.
So, arabian peninsula produces relatively normal amount of carbon, but the export it to those who use it the most
Any ideas for a fix ?
@@dontbotherreading This video explains pretty well how we can reduce CO2 emissions. Half of the solution is rapid development of renewable energies such as wind and solar. The other half is implementing a circular economy that reduces resource use and waste to a minimum and recycles the inevitable rest that cannot be reduced or reused.
@@Omer1996E.C they use a lot of energy just to cool themselves. Moreover their energy sources are entirely dependent on fossil fuel." The line " and similar projects are just some extreme dream of a bad ass prince.
in these days of 'blame China for everything' culture, it is refreshing to read a balanced report.
Kudos to Tomorrow's Build team
Nothing about this report was balanced the fact that u cant see that is concerning
But gave clean chit to the west.
In addition to its 1.4 billion population, being the manufacturing hub for much of the world for decades naturally increase China’s CO2 emission.
It is rare to see such unbiased channels now
Bro America and the UK alone have contributed to 40% of all CO2 emitted in human history, while the Soviet Union/Russia has emitted 16% and China 15%. What a ridiculous comparison.
cry me a river, poor boi :(
So we're just going to ignore the carbon emissions generated by Europe and North America during their industrial revolution?
China has half the emissions per person that the US has
It's refreshing to have a level-headed analysis of China, great video keep up the good work.
LMAO! So funny to see how people are easily manipulated and brainwashed... LOL!
The WORLDS BiGGEST PULLUTER is America Twice OVER when you calculate the pollution from America's Terrorist Military-Industrial Complex Killer...
So back to the drawing board with your lies and anti-China propaganda....
@@phoenixpr100 The problem with the USA, is that it believes itself innocent, and nothing can be done about that. The biggest positive in the video above is that China is leading the way, when it comes to climate change.
@@mj6115
...of course China is leading the way they're living in a Jetson era...
...while America is comfortable in existing in the Flintstone era...
I'll Take China All Day, Every Day...
Only because I had the privilege to live in Guangdong Province for 4 years and experienced true FREEDOM for the first time in my life...
While traveling throughout one of the GREATEST NATiON on this WORLD, in fact truthfully Thee Greatest Nation on our Globe.
...not a Utopia, but The Greatest...
@@phoenixpr100 my man, chill down, if you want to convince people that USA sucks, go to another channel, you're just screaming against people who already agree with you
@@phoenixpr100 Go to bbc news if you want to convince people that usa sucks
The West has much higher total cumulative emissions. Outsource production/emissions to foreign countries and blame them for pollution, eh? Maybe we should reduce our consumption.
It's really biased and hypocritical to blame China and India for the largest carbon emitter. Because if we see CO2 emissions per capita it's really low for both the countries. And while US and the EU are amongst the highest in the world.
Its also incredible that they claim the US has far less CO2 emissions than china because the US militaey alone emits and pollutes more than the next 10 countries combined and Ill gurantee you that they didnt include it in the statistic they showed in the video. If they did, im fairly sure the US would have greater emissions than China present day.
really massive oversight to not include per capita calculations or the historical context of western countries exporting their manufacturing (and associated emissions) to china.
You are asking too much fairness from a western based media.
China, unlike most countries, is actually true to it’s word so they’ll definitely hit that mark
Are we really gonna neglect the fact that China has 1.4 billion people and also the world factory? China's Industrial Revolution began in the 1978s and finished in 1995s. Meanwhile, the west began its Industrial revolution in the 1760s, the west already polluted the world for two hundred years and now they are pointing fingers at China for creating more gas??? Why don't we look at how the US only has a quarter of the population of China but their gas emissions are half of China's overall? The US is the office of the world and other nations are factories for them, and yet with less population, they manage to reach second place.
Great summary, and more well-balanced than most. That said, who have been nice to hear some per capita figures, as well as historical emissions and reliance on China for production. The emissions are coming out of China, but they are for goods consumed around the world.
I think that due to geography/elevation that China is very vulnerable to sea level rise. But yeah I’m very happy that such a behemoth is putting its weight behind clean energy technology development. This R&D will definitely be good in the long run - for the whole planet but also for their economy
From where we stand right now with the heating of the oceans, if we went to zero emissions immediately we still have the next 30-50 years for the ocean temps to start to come down. Another decade or more of the world polluting and the damage is already done and irreversible. What a marvellous job we all have done to saviour our only source of life.
we need a bigger union of countries to agree on making an exception for doing weather manipulation. Currently we agree to not use weather manipulation to slow the effects, but it may be something we have to do.
Greater industrial development through expanse of more advanced technology towards energy is vital when economies grow faster with more and cheaper. More cooperation to develop this technology with China with the UK is vital.
The father of Chinese rockets, Qian Xuesen, suggested to the authority in 1990s to skip fuel engine technology to electric engine, battery and solar power. China’s 3rd-gen leader Jiang Zemin predicted that the world’s mainstream semiconductor process will reach 14nm at 2014±, he back to the research of electronic technology after stepping down as the president of China.
Fun fact that Lauri Myllyvirta didnt tell u: finland has world's most efficience coal powerplans and is very high developed country. And finland population is 5,5 million, china has 1,4 billion population. Still chinese pollutes lesser than finnish per capita, even china is the world production country (thats finnish people can afford for consume).
China has pollutes most for decade since she got industrialisation. Can people imaging how much finland or the west had polluted in the past 2 centuries since they got industrialisation.
Inthe climate issues the world need to cooporate with eachothers. Its easier to pointing a finger at others to blaim and dont forget that countries doesn't have an equal start in development and industrialisation.
Fun fact, you forgot to mention that Finland is also transitioning away from coal. Together with France it's the only EU country so far that seems to take nuclear seriously.
And it's not like he's blaming China, just pointing out that we, including China and the rest of the world need to move towards renewable energy. For China it's obviously gonna take longer than a small country like Finland though.
1-china
2-india
3-usa
These countries can bring the most changes to the world at last they are the largest and most influential and they have high potential...
So the world must have to concience these 3 countries to fight climate change
1:22 If put this number in relation to industrial output, and then to exports, it looks a bit different. All the exports means that the carbon emissions for the export is actually consumed elsewhere...
The one party system in China means that they will most likely accomplish whatever they decide to do. There's no opposition to stop them later, like the two party system in the US. It's efficient, and it means that a consensus is being met behind the scenes.
As for coal, it's always going to be relevant because of steel production. The renewables that they are planning to replace it with for energy are not ideal, to say the least.
I really wish people would understand how much the environment has actually changed since the industrial revolution 150 years ago. It's only 0.01% (1/100 of 1%). That ought to give some perspective.
You for got to mention continuity, which is one of the biggest shortcomings of a more democatic system where he next guy will usually just ignore everything previously agreed upon.
Steel production using Hydrogen instead of coal is probably a better use for giant Hydrogen plant than heating or cars.
Guy be saying Dictatorships are better than Democracies
@@kedevy not really. But the problem with government is the people who run it, not how it's designed. If a dictatorship does everything right, is it bad just because it's a dictatorship? If a democracy does everything wrong, is it good just because it's a democracy?
BTW, the American system has been compromised for years. Corruption is rampant. But that's not because of the two party system, or capitalism, or anything else. It's because the people who are running it are doing the wrong things.
In other words, government isn't the problem, people are the problem. People are the ones running the government, not the other way around.
@@grantmccoy6739 OK what about the massacre of Uyghur minorities in Xinjiang and the bursting housing market?
So China has 25 % of the carbons emission! What is the emissions per head compared to other nations ?
Lol. Good qns. This video lack integrity and the credibility to showcase as a news
Pledge are meaningless unless action is taken to fulfill those pledges
China is taking some huge steps
But where are developed nations who have money to switch to renewable energy how much has usa eu invested in renewable energy or just pledges
Not only is China below USA, Australia and Canada in aggregate PerCapita carbon emissions. It's personal carbon emissions, (how much carbon emissions individuals are responsible in their personal lives through transport, consumer choices, housing etc) is some of the very lowest in the developed world. Anyone "blaming" China for Carbon Emissions is exposing their own ignorance and desire to scapegoat others.
We all want our cell phones laptops and TVs at the cheapest price which all come from China so when we criticize the scale of their pollution we need to remember industrial output is a dirty energy intensive business
I'd love to see a video about how much pollution the US military produces
Wow this comment section is wonderful! Not a single climate change denialist, not a single China hater 😮! It feels soo good ! although a bit surreal !
Remember per capita numbers
numbers and their carbon output on products for 'export'.
what about emissions per capita?
US emission does not include that of its military
dont worry, they ll be included in other countries' emission, my guess is US military account for 90% of Afgan's emission
You need the THUMBNAIL to have the LOGO on it. I noticed the video one day after it was released. The logo would be TB diagonally in my opinion.
Very interesting video, thanks.
I think it's time to understand and make pressure on developed nations to make a large budget for developing countries to develop renewable energy plants.
If you pressure those governments of developed nations they’ll just came out with danger and threats to our nation bullshits , the truth is westerns gov are weak and vulnerable against their wealthiest ceos bourgeois just like what karl marx said,
If you pressure those governments of developed nations they’ll just came out with danger and threats to our nation bullshits , the truth is westerns gov are weak and vulnerable against their wealthiest ceos bourgeois just like what karl marx said,
@@everythingsfine1395 I understand that by seeing USA for example is also struggling with too much capitalism.
I think we must also take into consideration that China is the most populous country and almost the entire world outsources its factories to it. China isn’t the most morally correct country, but I think that the blame on them in this topic is misplaced.
I wonder why the author failed to mention PER CAPITA in his logic. Disliked this video on that point.
@Surrender Modi Honk kong???? Taiwan??? Concentration Camps??? Are you ignorant?
Meanwhile in America:
" _Solar panels will suck up all of the sun's life-rays!!!_ "
India put a very nice point in Glasgow that developing nations are being built and will emit carbon so it is the west who will have to take a lager responsibility...
Despite of that I am so proud that India stands 4th in terms of renewable energy...
JAI HIND :)
China and infrastructure ❤️
Most people weighing on China & US but worst polluter is actually EU & gulf countries. Actually this is the time to stop singling out one or two countries but to pressuring all countries to clean up. emerging developing nations still needs to boast up energy so big economies should also help smaller developing world to produce green energies with super friendly funding & technical support.
So funny to see how people are easily manipulated and brainwashed... LOL!
The WORLDS BiGGEST PULLUTER is America Twice OVER when you calculate the pollution from America's Terrorist Military-Industrial Complex Killer...
So back to the drawing board with your lies and anti-China propaganda....
@@phoenixpr100 calm tf down buddy. AMERICA is equivalent to the size of the entire EU & population wise US is twice as big as EU now if we divide every state of US just like you did in the EU, you won't be looking at us as a polluter. Gulf countries are way for BIGGER polluter than all of us but they've a smaller population so it's easy to hide behind the numbers. It's no rocket science look it up
@@phoenixpr100 wait a minute what anti China lies are you talking about? 😲 I'm literally more PRO CHINA than any Chinese dude lmao
Thanks
Really good analysis
Nice job, though the stats should be listed per capita. Population plays a big role here and I didn't see it being factored in.
The carbon footprint per capita in China is still a fraction of that in the West, plus there's carbon export whereby a richer country commissions its products in a developing country (thereby exporting its pollution), while sending its 'recyclable' waste back. We shouldn't let China off the hook, but we shouldn't let ourselves off it either -at the end of the day we in the West don't get to be the onoes to point the finger when we're multiple times worse.
@Dennisestrada and the West dumps all its rubbish on China.
Is there An index that gives some insight in how a country is doing on this topic (that includes current and historical polution, progress in renewable energy,...) Anybody an idea?
Emission per capita should get considered here.
China has almost 5 times as many people the the US.
Really, (and i'm no fan of China in general) this isn't even the full story. All the numbers that were presented were absolutes, where, obviously China's huge population needs to be considered (unless you're for solving climate change with genocide..) Even the relatively affluent urban Chinese people (comparable to the west's middle class) have plateaued in emissions per person at an equivalent level to about Europe, which is HALF that of the per capita emissions of Australia and the US. Also, a huge sum of China's emissions are due to manufacturing stuff for the west, these are really the west's emissions being outsourced to China... Conversely, you can't just put China's massive investments into clean energy down to size either. Their investment as a percentage of GDP is many times that of Australia or the US, despite being poorer (and having more pressing priorities). And as you mention, this isn't just about trying to look good on climate change. China produces nearly half of the world's total production of coal, and consumes even more. Last I checked China's reserves would only last about 30 years, and as such a huge part of the pie, it would obviously be hard to replace that supply from the international market, even if they wanted to, which obviously they don't; Energy security would be of HUGE importance to China for a few obvious reasons.
And all this is before we even get in to moral questions such as the fact China has been contributing to global emissions for far less time than the west, And I'd bet they are still behind in total historical emissions of many western countries.
The fact is that China is making more of an effort on climate change than the US and Australia. These are the two countries I would be most judgmental of.
Their efforts funding other developing nations to go green, rather than just saying "no coal" and leaving them in the dark, is also a good example to set (even if they are loans). It is something the international community is going to need to do, because China will not be the only problem here, the rapidly developing Africa and India - both as big as China, will just as likely present the same problem China is to emissions, in the future. Which is a harrowing thought. Its not good enough to just sit on our laurels and say "get on with it China". Every developed nation (with more means to combat climate change) need to be setting the best example they can. going above and beyond, and working towards assisting developing nations given they neither have the means practically to transition to clean energy, nor the motivation morally to do so ("its not fair we don't get to power our development with fossil fuels like the west did")
Not only is excuse making like 'we are an insignificant population so it doesn't matter what we do' (see Australia), incredibly morally bankrupt, it will only hurt international negotiations with these big players, which is what saving the planet will come down to.
well said!
well said!
And it's also leading the way in NUCLEAR power, which is clean, safe and very energy dense!!
they just connected to the grid a 4th generation nuclear reactor. It has sphere as fuel that melt at very very high temperature that make it even safer. It's also 50% more efficient that current reactors. I suggest you to make a video about that!!
Honestly I don't have a gripe with people talking about China's emissions, but what I do have a gripe with is the fact that people who like to point fingers on China are just trying to make excuses for themselves not doing anything. Climate Change is a global problem that needs global cooperation.
"Smoke & mirrors..." CLEVER! Keep it up Fred!
Twice as much pollution than the US but how many people live in the US compared to China. Statistics is funny thing.
Exactly, if we scale the US population to China's, US pollution is literally 4x more
@@haruyanto8085 Yeah, it seems like this channel just jumped on the bandwagon without proper research.
@@hugovale6360 Not really, absolute numbers do also matter, yes China is more efficient per capita, but it's overall impact is still relevant, climate change is a question of reducing overall emissions, not just reducing relative emissions.
On top of that China is the factory of the world and the US and others outsourced their labour and their pollution to China.
USs pollution is actually way higher but it gets added to China’s pollution statistic.
@@danycashking You must be one of those that applaud wealthy people flying in their jets. After all, they are probably based on small country that has low emissions compared with Russia or USA.
Also emissions transfer from the West to developing countries as they outsource their manufacturing products. The people in the West enjoy a steak meal with wine under a beautiful clear blue sky while the people in developing countries are struggling busy working to make products for them while eating a bread under a polluted sky.
China is also showing the world how to make safe nuclear pebble bed reactors that cant melt down.
Danke. Gutes Video
China have much lower carbon impact per capita than the US. They have a population ca 4 times higher but they only release 2 times as much greenhouse gasses.
but China's carbon impact keeps going up!
@@leonelbrava2738 but so does their living standard. Compare Sweden to Kenya, compare China 70 years ago to China today. It’s maybe not exactly that extreme but you get the point
@@leonelbrava2738 many other countries carboninpact is going up to
The quality is very good 👍
Wow this vid was more masterworks than tomorrows build.
I mean, they have billions of people.... if we calculate it per capita then the US pollutes multiple times more!
Bruh... Look at at China's CO2 emissions per capita. With that being said they also produce most of our stuff.
Yes it's easier to west to decarbonize because most of the dirty industry are outsource to developing country like china and india
"Clean energy" is a misnomer. Renewable power may not produce the emissions at source, but there are many problems, from the huge quantities of wind turbine blades being buried in landfill (they have a limited life span, and cannot easily be recycled) to the disposal of photo-voltaic cells and batteries, both of which contain much that damages the environment. More needs to be done to deal with this before we start celebrating the expansion of renewables as although they may reduce carbon emissions they shift the problem to other issues.
Hydroprower is responsible for 1.3% of global emissions due to the high concrete use and rotting bio material in the created lake.
With 8 billion on people on earth demanding better quality of life, there’s going to be significant issues with everything we ever do. The immediate issue is climate, we’ll have to worry about the other stuff later down the line.
Xi is implementing more traditional cultural aspects as well. Which is great, they should celebrate their rich heritage, just as each nation should.
China is the worst polluter now but historically it's Germany and America who have contributed a LOT when it comes to Greenhouse Emission. They cannot just convert immediately to Green Energy when they are just starting to industrialized. Also, China is trying to make energy to its citizens cheaper.