Damn u Sir foch u stole me a kill a few days ago :-P Just kidding :) it was awesome when i saw a famous player in the same MM as me. Hope to find Mr Jingles in Wot one day.
lLumpyl Obviously Jingles was thinking about high profile streamers, not just good players. I'm sure that Jingles is aware that Foch's stats are immense, and that he often/always ends his stream when Circon starts his just as to not take away viewers from Circ.
This is why I rate you Jingles. You represent 'Joe Public'-the Everyman who is a fair player, but gets down when things don't go according to script. When I watch you live stream, hear that *sigh*, I know that the rage is building up. Unlike Circon, Quicky, Ike, Bis18marek70, Side Stream, Krebs, Riising Sun. who can battle it, and have ice for blood when needed, you get emotional, because it mean that you actually want to win, and be a team player. Its even more trolling when a 'tactical genius' passes a smart alec comment. Trust me fella, all the YTer's that you play with, know that- and yet still time and again, want to fight with you. Most of your subs empathize with you, and know where it comes from. This is why you have the almost 200k subs (and counting) and the tactical geniuses have jack shit. Listen mate-been with you when you had about 1000 subs, 'back in the day'. I love to see you do a super live stream with all the guys, both a 'big wing' for WT, and a big tank squad for WoT. That would be epic!!!!!! You've done so much for the community, that I, along with everybody else, hope you make the big 500k!
When I lose 2 or 3 battles in a row I get frustrated. When I'm frustrated I play poorly. If I play poorly I won't help my team so I will keep losing... This video made me think about that...
My record in continuing losses where 24. To this day i dont understand why i kept playing, when i get frustrated i either stop play for that day or just have a pause.
Guys! Listen. The personal goal I've set myself is not winning - for me it's doing the most you can possibly do during a battle and suppporting your team as much as you can. And even if I loose a battle - I look at how much spotting dmg/actual dmg I did compared to my team and (important!) how much I did compared to the enemy team. And then I either decide if I did well or not. If I come to the conclusion that I did well and still lost that battle - well... shit happens. If I lost and I do not really know why, then I watch the replay and see what I could've done better (maybe the spot I was in was not good, etc). And let's be honest - most of the players in WoT suck. I have a 56% winrate cuz I am doing what you just read. And seriously - don't get offended by all those guys calling you a noob. Install xvm - most of the players calling other players noobs are the once who got a 44% winrate. Just an advice. You are welcome ;) Check out some of my replays! wotreplays.com/site/623870#severogorsk-the_american-m8a1 The_American_
Jonathan Waldemarson It's not painful if you are the best player on your team. You at least get the pleasure of blaming the rest of your team because you DID do your best. 11-12 battles in a row where I am the bottom of the scoreboard, regardless if its a win or a loss, is painful. I would rather have a 3000 damage defeat than a 100 damage victory. And it hurts more because I am above average. Im not pro, im not good, but I am above average, so I should always be performing above average in my games.
I can't blame Jingles for getting discouraged from time to time. I play nothing but random battles and the sheer stupidity of my team 90% of the time makes me want to rage quit. I feel like I'm the only one playing for what's best for the team, while all the other guys try to go "lone ranger" and get themselves killed. Or everyone goes to one side of the map and we get capped. It's hard to keep fighting to your fullest when you know your best efforts are being wasted. That being said, it's times like this when you KNOW you're being counted upon that makes us rise to the occasion. Very intuitive game lesson, but an even bigger life lesson. Keep tanking, Jingles!
You should NEVER leave a battle that isn't over. Even if it's hopeless. Rage quitting out of a game isn't a sign of being a bad player, its a sign of being a douchebag. It's even worse than the people you like to call out for raging in chat, at least they stayed to the end.
As far as I'm concerned...only time I RQ is when I'm either lagging badly or the enemy is, or someone is hacking on my team or the enemy team and the dickhead isn't getting kicked. Such as a War Thunder instance, my pilot for this slot is maxed out for vitality so he is almost nigh impossible to knock out...even for a 20mm cannon. One shot from a 7.7mm gun and my pilot is gone? IDC what the fuck anyone says - that is a fucking hack. I spawned in my Chaika after that and took every plane that fucking hack had...DOWN. Ended up getting into a 8vs1, but I knocked out 3 guys, including the hacker twice before I lost my Chaika. Hell, in a First Person Shooter like Crossfire, I have had this happen where a hacker is on the enemy team, and I just go berzerk and that hacker doesn't have a chance in hell of stopping me. My best example is Crossfire's Ghost Mode, a wall hacking, and light hacking noob on the enemy team, is clearly hacking, not even trying to disguise it...I finally snap, at 0-3 kills and just rape not only him, but the entire team of 8 players by myself three matches in a row, and that isn't uncommon for me to zone out and just obliterate anyone who is unfortunate enough to get in within reach of the blade of my axe. I have had such a zone out before that the game ITSELF threw up this "Hack Tool Detected" bullshit, not only kicking me from the match but closing my game all together - that being said, made me rage to where I put my fist through a wall because I had a 36 to 3 score in that match.. Point is - if you fucking hack, I will fucking murder you if I snap and zone out.
THIS is why I watch and like your videos, Jingles. The gameplay is entertaining and educational, but it's really your insight and wisdom, especially when spoken in that soft, mellow voice of yours, that keeps me coming back. :)
I used to be one of those scumbags who just drove into water or killed myself when I was the last tank alive if I didn't think I had a chance. My thought process was "Better to die now than at the hands of the enemy and give them another kill." But since I've discovered your channel, you've inspired me to not drive off of cliffs and fight to the end. Usually it ends with me being slaughtered, but there have been one or two times that I've been able to pull a game back. I would never have played like this if it weren't for your videos
Well said, Jingles. Like you, I'm former military (US Army); when push comes to shove, *_you fight for those around you_*... *they* are _what matters_, _everything _*_else_* fades into the background. Your training kicks in, and you focus on the task at hand; I owe my mates no less than that. As to strong emotions... I _avoid_ them whenever possible... *it spoils my aim*. That's just the way I was taught to shoot, and I had _very_ good teachers.
I thought I would never give up, but that changed when I started to play tier X. Alone with leo against 5 heavies capping my base made me cry like a little girl on crack.
your advice for went a little further than fighting in WoT for me... I just lost my grandfather and up until today I had been wondering what the point of life is if we are all just going to die anyway. But, today, I started thinking "well what is the point in giving up when you have already started? What great things can you accomplish in the future if you just go out there and try?" and I had been thinking it over for most of the day. This video, however, just went and confirmed what i had been thinking as a sort of sign... weird I know but... thank you from the bottom of my heart thank you I know you never meant it to be taken this way but its what i needed to really get back on my feet from the depressing state I was in.
"There is always something to fight for." That is a really good thought. I almost got very emotional there when I hear you saying it at the very end of a video.In these hard times of global depression and lack of a human compassion it is really nice to hear some encouraging words. Thumbs up for you Jingles.
Wow! Exellent analysis and self reflection. You show concretely how some games you play teach you things. The mindset of trying know yourself and your weaknesses. Acknowledging your weaknesses and mistakes is exactly what makes those things either go away or lessen in impact.
*places fist across chest* *a single, manly tear rolls down cheek* "I will keep fighting, always and forever. For honor. For glory. For sticking it to the man and saying 'I don't give a damn what the odds are, I'm gonna kick your ass and you're going to fucking LOVE IT!' Come on men! Let's go bitch slap some window-lickers! FOR JINGLES!"
just found this video again. pretty sure i watched it when it first came out but i like watching old jingles videos. I've been struggling lately and getting upset at my team silently. Much like jingles if something is going badly and I haven't preformed I have a tendency to just give up my tank(in my case by rushing forward unsupported) and this is a great reminder that there's still people counting on you to go down fighting.
Also, Props to you Jingles for being able to confess your flaws to the world - that takes a pretty big guy with a bunch of humility to do, and for that you have (more of) my respect.
It makes me glad to hear you say these things. Re: Looking at the game later makes you much more level headed. My game in War Thunder skyrocketed when I started later watching my own replays and getting a calmer more honest view on why I died. They weren't OP, I just sucked. How to get a fighter off your 6? Easy. Don't get a fighter on your 6. That's how air kills are made. Preventative maintenance is the key to life in a dogfight.
its at that point, that at times, in Random, you find other players with the same idea, and you create good friendships throughout, knowing someone else, is covering you, as you cover them. --breaking down yet another wall. Well done.
Jingles, the philosopher, those words at the end about the difference between the truly great players and the not so great players never giving up spoke to me about some real-life problems I am having now. Thanks to those words or wisdom I didn't give up and got through some real shit times. I thank you Jingles for helping me even though you didn't know.
Its interesting that jingles felt that way, the way I was interpreting that situation was 'wow, we're still pretty much even and i'am still on full health' then I would have immediately got on to tracking that is8 with my rof and facing hugging like a boss as jingles did. The only time I get pissed off is when I get wonder spotted and lit up by all the enemies tanks and I am already either dead, or as good as before I've even fired a shot.
God, i needed this little inspirational video. I've just unlocked my M46 Patton. I'm a non premium account player, always have been, so its been a long road so far. I get to the M46, and I instantly hit the brick wall. That tanks tracks have just too little load capacity to mount the pershing's gun, and that means that you have to grind out 23k xp to upgrade the tracks, so you can mount the pershing's gun on a tier 9 tank. And best of all, the top 105mm is 68k xp after that. And I was honestly afraid that it was going to turn into a tank that sat in the back of my garage until there was a special event or a platoon mate wanted to go tier 9. But Jingles here reminded me of what got me to tier 9 in the first place. The pershing was no easy stock grind, the T20 wasnt, the Easy 8 wasnt, and the sherman wasnt. But i kept at it, and damnit now ive got to do it again. But I know i can, and I'm sure it will be worth it, and I'll make some great memories in my M46.
That's the attitude! got through same useless gun stuff with su101 and su122-54, but it really paid off in the end. Fully upped m46 is a beast and trolls everything with it's gun mantlet (well usually me anyway). Bet you will have lots of fun with that one.
Good vid. I feel like 1 vs 15 a lot, nice when I get a good group that go on an "outing" together and seem to push back the other team and cooperate well. I've never worried about being mismatched. It's just a game and another challenge. Enjoyed!
I understand this completely! When I started WoT, I was doing decent, then I had a losing streak from Hell. I lost (along with the team, of course) 58 out of 60 matches, in random battles. I started questioning why I played this game, and took it upon myself as to why we lost. I run into plenty of times when I think I can be doing more and better, and try to quickly analyze what I can be doing. Now I am about 4000 games in, and I am at -30 in my win/loss ratio, and I won't complain. Thanks to you, Jungles, and QuickyBaby, I keep making myself better, and try not to give up in any match. You just don't know when the "magic" will happen.
In the words of Naruto 'Give up trying to make me give up!!!' No matter what xvm says, no matter how hopeless the situation is I will fight to the very end and either win or take as many of my bastard enemies with me!
As every true warrior knows... You pledge your all into all you do, ether claim victory and vanquish your foes or fall with honor destroying as many as you can before your end, This is true of all things... Give it your all in all that you do.
Jingles, you play a lot like I do, in that I also get pissed when I'm not doing as good as I think I should. It's frustrating, immensely so... So it's nice to see something like this from you. Makes me feel better. Thanks.
I had exactly the same situation yesterday. I played in my Ferdinand, and after firing 2 shots and only one penetrated (I had a big losing streak), I couldn't even care less about doing even more. But the inspiration of doing more was a poor little one-shot T-43, who was masterfully slaughtering two tier 8 heavies at the same time, I recognized the player that could help us win the game together. Scores where 9-13, and with doing nothing the entire game, I decided to go full hardcore into everything that attacked us. Sadly the T-43 didn't survive, but I walked away with 4500 damage and Top Gun. And although I did almost all damage, this T-43 didn't only help me fighting, he helped me inspiring. If I ever see another one of those guys, giving up goes away from my to do list.
I started to think, if I by myself don't give up subconsciously and because of that, I play worse and sometimes stupidly die. I still can't believe how big idiot I was a few moths ago, before my break of WoT. I feel really sorry to all the people who had to play with me in the past. Now, after each death, I will try to figure out what I did wrong and what I could do better to win the battle or at least survive longer to help my team as much as possible. Great video which made me think about it. A really good one.
True video,ive been feelin like that alot recently and i completely agree.its at the moments that you want to give up,that you realize if u quit u wont be just giving up on yourself,but on ur teammates as well.
As every true warrior knows... You pledge your all into all you do, ether claim victory and vanquish your foes or fall with honor destroying as many as you can before your end, This is true of all things... Give it your all in all that you do.
Well said Jingles, everyone at some point in any game gets frustrated, it's human nature, true resolve is how you handle it. GL in the future m8, might bump into you on the battlefield sometime.
I know how you feel. Felt it many times. But that feeling kept coming back so many times that I though to myself: wtf am I doing with my life? And it was recently that I made that thought. So after twenty years wasting my life on MMORPG and MOBA, I finally found the enlightment to quit video games. Not only are they a hellhole that provide the same form of entertainment over and over but they also, make me feel like the way you felt during your match. And I have to say... I finally feel the freedom. Take care Jingles and tread lightly in that virtual reality.
I really appreciate the spirit of this video, and in a small way it's helped me understand my own habits and attitudes in World of Tanks. Jingles, you may have just helped me suck slightly less.
I know the broader universe doesn't need to know this but I suffer from severe suicidal impulses and it gets to that same place you describe "Losing the will to carry on" but I saw this video when it came out and now, four years later I still flash it up because it helps and there are people relying on me.
I must say I really do appreciate this video, if I could thumb it up more I would because while the topic was mentioned in previous videos, and those who watch QuickyBaby's livestreams with your rages have also been familiar with this topic. But I feel like in the context of abandoning your platoonmate further exaggerates and enhances this message, and as you said, as soon as you can begin to pull yourself out of a tough time regularly in battle, the better of a tanker you can already begin to become. Fantastic, really good video
Very good and informative video Jingles. Had a similar situation in a game today. Was in my KV-1S battling a M6, bounced off him twice in a row and got set on fire, auto extinguisher puts it out, and his very next shot sets me on fire AGAIN. At this point I'm down to 120 health and all I've done is destroyed a SU-85 and put a shot in to a KV-1. I was about to give up but decided to keep at that M6, even with arty going for me too. Managed to put a shot in to him, angle my armor, bounced a couple shots, then finished him off. Long story short, through careful advancing around the map and avoiding arty, I finished the game with 5 kills and 3k damage, and only 15 health left. Not a spectacular game for a 1S, but I felt good about it after such a crap start to the game.
That was a pretty touching speech even if it was for a video game. you are awesome jingles and you could easily apply it's moral for everything you do.
And plenty of players give up when XVM tells them there's a 30% chance to win, before they even start to lose. I guess they have the satisfaction of being right.
This is really good video! I had the habit of not fighting till the end and getting discouraged too easily when WoT came out. During my grind with Tiger (h) I slowly got out of that kind of defeatist mentality. Now, 14k games later I sit on nice 2800 WN8 and 61 % winrate stats, but that Tiger is still in my statistics with crappy 48 % winrate as a reminder.. never give up!
I never give up and always keep fighting regardless of the odds. One person is all it takes to turn the tide of battle. Plus, you can't get those amazing clutch games if you just quit.
Dear Jingles. I'm certain it has been told to you a houndred thousand times by now, but the video proves you need to get told again: Stick your gun's aim, when looking around. That AMX 13/90 was looking for opportunities to take potshots. He didn't dare come up the ridge as long as your gun was pointing his way. He came up the moment you looked around and your gun pointed away, took a shot and damaged Foch's IS. Now these few HPs weren't crucial to the match, but they can be in different circumstances. Don't let the enemy know where your eyes are. Stick your aim and only then you may look around.
Jingles, i recognize this so much! Whenever i played a game and everything went wrong i tended to just yolo, do the last bit of damage i could, and then die, after watching Qb and this vid, i now fight to the lost shot in my gun.
I always carry this particular mind set going into a battle that I always fight to the last shell, until I'm dead. This is why on all my Russian tanks that have inscriptions, I put the inscription, "Russians do not surrender!"
I'm in the same boat as you Jingles: WoT pisses me off something fierce, but I never just give up. If anything I'll ram somebody or something, but I'll never give the enemy an inch. It's more fun to go down fighting, and I guarantee all but one of my Radley Walters medals are from games where I should have died but stubbornly refused to give up. Now if a TEAMMATE pisses me off.... there are no words -_-
Agree with you Jingles. Know this kind of situation, would be the worst moment to give up and let the platoon mate go down. Maked the experience already that when 2/3 of the match you do not a single damage point, until the end you can contibute to a win and be in the top of the team.
The only thing that makes me wanna give up is when i lose 10 rounds in a row cuz i had a no brain team :/ ( anf ofc i win all the games i am bad in but i lose all the game i rock in ... )
I am an average player and I too am sick of ldlot teams. In one day I had 4 games where I did 7 kills in each and was on the losing team. The problem is the low eff players at high tiers. There is nothing to stop a bot getting to tier 10. I keep telling myself that a winner never quits and a quitter niever wins but if it carrys on I will be quitting this game.
I can imagine that every time when Jingles is having a bad game, a small Denethor appears to sit on his shoulder whispering in his ear "Abandon your posts! Flee, flee for your lives!".
I'd like to say I never give up, but in truth I do. I won't actually stop shooting but in some situations all the heart goes out of it and I always die soon after, achieving very little. It's a very difficult thing to get out of once it sets in.
Wonderful video Jingles. Truly inspiring. From never giving up on your friend, to showing that you can always rally into the impossible if you just have the will to try. Buena! Thank you!
It's a good lesson Jingles and I think we can all take it to heart. I had one very similar recently, watching my team melt, only one on the Eastern flank, thinking the hell with this, all is lost. Something woke me up, and one other player and I rallied and ended up winning a very close match. Never Quit!
I had a 32 lose streak once but it didn't force me to quit and just give up but in those loses i kept fighting to my last HP always keeping in my mind "If i lose i lose firing my gun"
I would not do so because I know im not the reason why i lost so much because i knew how I play on that matches i go down fighting and doing tons on damage,that time was Holidays and we all know how many tomatos are playing at that day its just insane to recall.
I wish I had half your fortitude, Jingles, however little you have. I play 99% Germans (only going for the Cromwell right now for Brits, I've left everything else alone), and I constantly give up. Nearly every enemy I face bounces my shots from nearly every gun on every tank I own, the ones that I can penetrate with end up doing so little damage it doesn't deter everyone playing with their derp guns (and they are legion). Only recently I got the 75mm L/48 for my Panzer III/IV and Panzer IV and StuG and the L/70 for my VK3001H and only THEN do I even have a chance of doing any damage. Even then my shots bounce or don't penetrate many times. Meanwhile I take all your tips to heart (sidescrape, angling, cover, the 15m bush thing, etc) and they do no good because my tanks are made of paper that someone glued spotlights to because I pop up when I shoot, or I get damaged (HP damage) when I get hit by a shot to my tracks at a 10 degree angle by an invisible tank 75m away from me inside a bush. I try so hard, and I *know* I should be better, and I *know* I complain too much, but when I see what WoT and its RNG has in store for me I simply... give up, as I've been known to do in reality.
It gets better, believe me. Minus the stug, the tanks you have now are not very good. After tier 6 the german tanks start getting much better and the guns become significantly better. So just wait, the german line will get better for you.
TankCommander451 i would say, make those underdog tanks your own, make them work for you and never give up... had the same thoughts about the med line for russia... but manned up and learned how to best play those perticular tanks. Soldier on boy!
I've found that being stressed by something IRL (i e it'd be a much better idea to study, answer those emails or whatever) I get really pissed off in game and become apathetic, just like I'm waiting for a chance to quit. Because I kind of know I should. When I've had a day doing everything I should be doing, and haven't played for a few days, I play 3 times better. I can even see it in my win rates. IRL has a lot to do with my play performance, and probably for many others too.
At tanks like the Pz. IV or VK 30.01 H you indeed need to soldier on to get good news, however, after the amazing Hetzer and StuG to get to the amazing Jagdpanther and Ferdinand, lays the FailPanzer IV, with crap armor, bad gun, and troll mm. Good luck mate. But again, soldier on, the German TD line is a great line.
It has honestly never crossed my mind to quit and give up a match in wot even in the bleakest battles or the clearest victories. To me every single point of damage I can do in a match helps tip the game in my teams favor, let alone it gets me that little bit closer to my next tank. Also I have too much pride to abandon my tank and let someone have an easy kill, no matter how out tiered I am because if they are shooting at me that means they aren't shooting at my team.
I actually had a game something like this in War Thunder not to long ago. I was flying my low tier Japanese on Stalingrad domination and we were just getting wasted. I came THIS close to quitting before I stopped myself. And lo and behold, my team pulls it back with less then 200 tickets, caps two air fields from none and I basically spend the rest of the game in my hydro zero shooting down light bombers with a teammate in an Aircobra as they tried to sneak around to cap our base. Was one of the most satisfying wins to date and it would have never happened if I had given up.
I have just, today, started playing again after deciding well before xmas to have a break. 1st game back, 17 seconds in and my team start TKing each other on Highway! But I grin and bear it and after a couple of nasty defeats just start playing for a laugh. Sod the fact that for 3 games in a row in my brand new Chi-Ha i am bottom tier and left holding the flank against varying amounts of KV-1's I still played on. It really is amazing how scared a tier 5 heavy can be of a tier 3 light meaning you can hold a corner for over 5 mins! Suddenly it was 3 hours later...although I can't help but wonder how many of the KV-1's QB would have killed all the while making it look effortless!
That is my philosophy as well; no matter how badly the game is going around me, I do whatever I can to be an asset for my team. ...and if the opposing team wants to take me down, I'm gonna make them work for it. NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER!
hooray to jingles~ i had the same bad mindset a few months back when my win rate was constantly at 30-40%.. but i somehow found the problem to my bad streak.. i was being too serious on grinding instead of having fun with different tanks.. i realized on some days.. it's a heavy tank day for me.. on others it's a medium tank day and so forth.. and since then.. my daily win rate had been between 50-70%
Good thing u maned up, would've been hard to kill all of them on my own...
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I think it's safe to say... Jingle became the Hulk... and SMASHED!
Damn u Sir foch u stole me a kill a few days ago :-P
Just kidding :) it was awesome when i saw a famous player in the same MM as me. Hope to find Mr Jingles in Wot one day.
lLumpyl Obviously Jingles was thinking about high profile streamers, not just good players. I'm sure that Jingles is aware that Foch's stats are immense, and that he often/always ends his stream when Circon starts his just as to not take away viewers from Circ.
I couldn't let you die, bro! ;)
This is why I rate you Jingles.
You represent 'Joe Public'-the Everyman who is a fair player, but gets down when things don't go according to script.
When I watch you live stream, hear that *sigh*, I know that the rage is building up. Unlike Circon, Quicky, Ike, Bis18marek70, Side Stream, Krebs, Riising Sun. who can battle it, and have ice for blood when needed, you get emotional, because it mean that you actually want to win, and be a team player.
Its even more trolling when a 'tactical genius' passes a smart alec comment.
Trust me fella, all the YTer's that you play with, know that- and yet still time and again, want to fight with you. Most of your subs empathize with you, and know where it comes from.
This is why you have the almost 200k subs (and counting) and the tactical geniuses have jack shit.
Listen mate-been with you when you had about 1000 subs, 'back in the day'. I love to see you do a super live stream with all the guys, both a 'big wing' for WT, and a big tank squad for WoT. That would be epic!!!!!!
You've done so much for the community, that I, along with everybody else, hope you make the big 500k!
When I lose 2 or 3 battles in a row I get frustrated. When I'm frustrated I play poorly. If I play poorly I won't help my team so I will keep losing... This video made me think about that...
sounds similair to something i heard quickybaby say once wise words
yeah i know that feeling but have you lost 11-12 in a row and every game your team dies in 2 min? that in painful!
My record in continuing losses where 24. To this day i dont understand why i kept playing, when i get frustrated i either stop play for that day or just have a pause.
Guys! Listen. The personal goal I've set myself is not winning - for me it's doing the most you can possibly do during a battle and suppporting your team as much as you can.
And even if I loose a battle - I look at how much spotting dmg/actual dmg I did compared to my team and (important!) how much I did compared to the enemy team. And then I either decide if I did well or not. If I come to the conclusion that I did well and still lost that battle - well... shit happens. If I lost and I do not really know why, then I watch the replay and see what I could've done better (maybe the spot I was in was not good, etc).
And let's be honest - most of the players in WoT suck. I have a 56% winrate cuz I am doing what you just read. And seriously - don't get offended by all those guys calling you a noob. Install xvm - most of the players calling other players noobs are the once who got a 44% winrate.
Just an advice. You are welcome ;)
Check out some of my replays! wotreplays.com/site/623870#severogorsk-the_american-m8a1
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Jonathan Waldemarson It's not painful if you are the best player on your team. You at least get the pleasure of blaming the rest of your team because you DID do your best. 11-12 battles in a row where I am the bottom of the scoreboard, regardless if its a win or a loss, is painful. I would rather have a 3000 damage defeat than a 100 damage victory. And it hurts more because I am above average. Im not pro, im not good, but I am above average, so I should always be performing above average in my games.
I can't blame Jingles for getting discouraged from time to time. I play nothing but random battles and the sheer stupidity of my team 90% of the time makes me want to rage quit. I feel like I'm the only one playing for what's best for the team, while all the other guys try to go "lone ranger" and get themselves killed. Or everyone goes to one side of the map and we get capped. It's hard to keep fighting to your fullest when you know your best efforts are being wasted. That being said, it's times like this when you KNOW you're being counted upon that makes us rise to the occasion. Very intuitive game lesson, but an even bigger life lesson. Keep tanking, Jingles!
sidgar1 Amen
You should NEVER leave a battle that isn't over. Even if it's hopeless. Rage quitting out of a game isn't a sign of being a bad player, its a sign of being a douchebag.
It's even worse than the people you like to call out for raging in chat, at least they stayed to the end.
also quitting while you have a tank still alive gives you a severe XP cut
As far as I'm concerned...only time I RQ is when I'm either lagging badly or the enemy is, or someone is hacking on my team or the enemy team and the dickhead isn't getting kicked.
Such as a War Thunder instance, my pilot for this slot is maxed out for vitality so he is almost nigh impossible to knock out...even for a 20mm cannon.
One shot from a 7.7mm gun and my pilot is gone? IDC what the fuck anyone says - that is a fucking hack. I spawned in my Chaika after that and took every plane that fucking hack had...DOWN. Ended up getting into a 8vs1, but I knocked out 3 guys, including the hacker twice before I lost my Chaika.
Hell, in a First Person Shooter like Crossfire, I have had this happen where a hacker is on the enemy team, and I just go berzerk and that hacker doesn't have a chance in hell of stopping me. My best example is Crossfire's Ghost Mode, a wall hacking, and light hacking noob on the enemy team, is clearly hacking, not even trying to disguise it...I finally snap, at 0-3 kills and just rape not only him, but the entire team of 8 players by myself three matches in a row, and that isn't uncommon for me to zone out and just obliterate anyone who is unfortunate enough to get in within reach of the blade of my axe.
I have had such a zone out before that the game ITSELF threw up this "Hack Tool Detected" bullshit, not only kicking me from the match but closing my game all together - that being said, made me rage to where I put my fist through a wall because I had a 36 to 3 score in that match..
Point is - if you fucking hack, I will fucking murder you if I snap and zone out.
THIS is why I watch and like your videos, Jingles. The gameplay is entertaining and educational, but it's really your insight and wisdom, especially when spoken in that soft, mellow voice of yours, that keeps me coming back. :)
Very good advice. And worth to keep in mind always.
Came for Jingles and a good old WOT video. Stayed for the motivational message! Keep fighting Jingles!
Even though I have began to dislike WoT, these moments keep me playing.. Putting the man pants on, fighting like a man and carrying the game!
I used to be one of those scumbags who just drove into water or killed myself when I was the last tank alive if I didn't think I had a chance. My thought process was "Better to die now than at the hands of the enemy and give them another kill." But since I've discovered your channel, you've inspired me to not drive off of cliffs and fight to the end. Usually it ends with me being slaughtered, but there have been one or two times that I've been able to pull a game back. I would never have played like this if it weren't for your videos
Well said, Jingles. Like you, I'm former military (US Army); when push comes to shove, *_you fight for those around you_*... *they* are _what matters_, _everything _*_else_* fades into the background. Your training kicks in, and you focus on the task at hand; I owe my mates no less than that. As to strong emotions... I _avoid_ them whenever possible... *it spoils my aim*. That's just the way I was taught to shoot, and I had _very_ good teachers.
I thought I would never give up, but that changed when I started to play tier X. Alone with leo against 5 heavies capping my base made me cry like a little girl on crack.
your advice for went a little further than fighting in WoT for me... I just lost my grandfather and up until today I had been wondering what the point of life is if we are all just going to die anyway. But, today, I started thinking "well what is the point in giving up when you have already started? What great things can you accomplish in the future if you just go out there and try?" and I had been thinking it over for most of the day. This video, however, just went and confirmed what i had been thinking as a sort of sign... weird I know but... thank you from the bottom of my heart thank you I know you never meant it to be taken this way but its what i needed to really get back on my feet from the depressing state I was in.
This could make an excelent movie plot... it almost shed tears in my eyes. :')
"There is always something to fight for." That is a really good thought. I almost got very emotional there when I hear you saying it at the very end of a video.In these hard times of global depression and lack of a human compassion it is really nice to hear some encouraging words. Thumbs up for you Jingles.
Wow! Exellent analysis and self reflection. You show concretely how some games you play teach you things. The mindset of trying know yourself and your weaknesses. Acknowledging your weaknesses and mistakes is exactly what makes those things either go away or lessen in impact.
*places fist across chest*
*a single, manly tear rolls down cheek*
"I will keep fighting, always and forever. For honor. For glory. For sticking it to the man and saying 'I don't give a damn what the odds are, I'm gonna kick your ass and you're going to fucking LOVE IT!' Come on men! Let's go bitch slap some window-lickers! FOR JINGLES!"
IM WHIT YOU LET*S DO DIS!!!!!!!!!!! FOR JINGESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS duvagr007
Great video yet again my friend. Keep up the great work!
Best regards
- wbe886
Ditto!
***** Indeed i was :)
That motivation Jingles...damn, you can apply that to a lot of stuff.
Wow, I am loving the amount of videos you keep putting out. Keep up the good work Jingles!
just found this video again. pretty sure i watched it when it first came out but i like watching old jingles videos. I've been struggling lately and getting upset at my team silently. Much like jingles if something is going badly and I haven't preformed I have a tendency to just give up my tank(in my case by rushing forward unsupported) and this is a great reminder that there's still people counting on you to go down fighting.
Beautiful words man. They apply to almost everything in life, not just world of tanks.
Also, Props to you Jingles for being able to confess your flaws to the world - that takes a pretty big guy with a bunch of humility to do, and for that you have (more of) my respect.
It makes me glad to hear you say these things.
Re: Looking at the game later makes you much more level headed. My game in War Thunder skyrocketed when I started later watching my own replays and getting a calmer more honest view on why I died. They weren't OP, I just sucked.
How to get a fighter off your 6? Easy. Don't get a fighter on your 6. That's how air kills are made. Preventative maintenance is the key to life in a dogfight.
New Jingles video just when I am about to go sleep, damn you Jingles for robbing me of sleep!
its at that point, that at times, in Random, you find other players with the same idea, and you create good friendships throughout, knowing someone else, is covering you, as you cover them.
--breaking down yet another wall. Well done.
Jingles, the philosopher, those words at the end about the difference between the truly great players and the not so great players never giving up spoke to me about some real-life problems I am having now.
Thanks to those words or wisdom I didn't give up and got through some real shit times. I thank you Jingles for helping me even though you didn't know.
Its interesting that jingles felt that way, the way I was interpreting that situation was 'wow, we're still pretty much even and i'am still on full health' then I would have immediately got on to tracking that is8 with my rof and facing hugging like a boss as jingles did. The only time I get pissed off is when I get wonder spotted and lit up by all the enemies tanks and I am already either dead, or as good as before I've even fired a shot.
Oh Jingles. I always fight to he last shot ... then prepare for RAMMING SPEED
If I see a Pz IC barrelling towards me and I'm in a fast tank, he's gonna taste my ramming speed, even at the start of the game.
"Sir we've got another tank coming in.................it's TheMightyJingles-erprise!!"
Squeesher "Wait! He's in a TOG! Run away!"
Unless you are in the T95 :)
That is so true man
A very emotional and passionate speech at the end there, Jingles :)
God, i needed this little inspirational video. I've just unlocked my M46 Patton. I'm a non premium account player, always have been, so its been a long road so far. I get to the M46, and I instantly hit the brick wall. That tanks tracks have just too little load capacity to mount the pershing's gun, and that means that you have to grind out 23k xp to upgrade the tracks, so you can mount the pershing's gun on a tier 9 tank. And best of all, the top 105mm is 68k xp after that. And I was honestly afraid that it was going to turn into a tank that sat in the back of my garage until there was a special event or a platoon mate wanted to go tier 9. But Jingles here reminded me of what got me to tier 9 in the first place. The pershing was no easy stock grind, the T20 wasnt, the Easy 8 wasnt, and the sherman wasnt. But i kept at it, and damnit now ive got to do it again. But I know i can, and I'm sure it will be worth it, and I'll make some great memories in my M46.
That's the attitude! got through same useless gun stuff with su101 and su122-54, but it really paid off in the end. Fully upped m46 is a beast and trolls everything with it's gun mantlet (well usually me anyway). Bet you will have lots of fun with that one.
nice post, good attitude
Good vid. I feel like 1 vs 15 a lot, nice when I get a good group that go on an "outing" together and seem to push back the other team and cooperate well. I've never worried about being mismatched. It's just a game and another challenge. Enjoyed!
HE'S ALIVE!!! :D
I understand this completely! When I started WoT, I was doing decent, then I had a losing streak from Hell. I lost (along with the team, of course) 58 out of 60 matches, in random battles. I started questioning why I played this game, and took it upon myself as to why we lost. I run into plenty of times when I think I can be doing more and better, and try to quickly analyze what I can be doing.
Now I am about 4000 games in, and I am at -30 in my win/loss ratio, and I won't complain. Thanks to you, Jungles, and QuickyBaby, I keep making myself better, and try not to give up in any match. You just don't know when the "magic" will happen.
Love your videos! Probably my favorite WoT RUclipsr. Videos like this are why. Thanks!!
thank you jingles for calling me good! :)
This video really hit home for me.
Thanks Jingles, just what I need to put me to sleep :)
In the words of Naruto 'Give up trying to make me give up!!!'
No matter what xvm says, no matter how hopeless the situation is I will fight to the very end and either win or take as many of my bastard enemies with me!
As every true warrior knows... You pledge your all into all you do, ether claim victory and vanquish your foes or fall with honor destroying as many as you can before your end, This is true of all things... Give it your all in all that you do.
Jingles, you play a lot like I do, in that I also get pissed when I'm not doing as good as I think I should. It's frustrating, immensely so... So it's nice to see something like this from you. Makes me feel better. Thanks.
Thank you for this video and your comments.....I needed them.
"Hi guys!"? What? WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR BELOVED JINGLES!
yes, i thinked that QB just morfed into jingles or something
I had exactly the same situation yesterday. I played in my Ferdinand, and after firing 2 shots and only one penetrated (I had a big losing streak), I couldn't even care less about doing even more. But the inspiration of doing more was a poor little one-shot T-43, who was masterfully slaughtering two tier 8 heavies at the same time, I recognized the player that could help us win the game together. Scores where 9-13, and with doing nothing the entire game, I decided to go full hardcore into everything that attacked us. Sadly the T-43 didn't survive, but I walked away with 4500 damage and Top Gun. And although I did almost all damage, this T-43 didn't only help me fighting, he helped me inspiring. If I ever see another one of those guys, giving up goes away from my to do list.
Like a story from a battlefield, where the everyday soldier gets a huge slap from his comrade, then saves the day. :)
I started to think, if I by myself don't give up subconsciously and because of that, I play worse and sometimes stupidly die. I still can't believe how big idiot I was a few moths ago, before my break of WoT. I feel really sorry to all the people who had to play with me in the past.
Now, after each death, I will try to figure out what I did wrong and what I could do better to win the battle or at least survive longer to help my team as much as possible.
Great video which made me think about it. A really good one.
True video,ive been feelin like that alot recently and i completely agree.its at the moments that you want to give up,that you realize if u quit u wont be just giving up on yourself,but on ur teammates as well.
I never give up, even if it appears I have no chance. You never know when you will get lucky and beat the odds.
As every true warrior knows... You pledge your all into all you do, ether claim victory and vanquish your foes or fall with honor destroying as many as you can before your end, This is true of all things... Give it your all in all that you do.
Well said Jingles, everyone at some point in any game gets frustrated, it's human nature, true resolve is how you handle it. GL in the future m8, might bump into you on the battlefield sometime.
What is this? No Howdy Folks intro?! WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL JINGLES?!?!
bravo my hat is off to you takes a great man to admit his mistakes, takes a little man to point out the mistakes of others.
Only jingles could weave in such a meaningful lesson into a FTP game on the internet. Hats off to you
Very good video Jingles, VERY good.
Thanks Jingles. Honestly, I needed to hear this.
Keep the videos coming.
I know how you feel. Felt it many times. But that feeling kept coming back so many times that I though to myself: wtf am I doing with my life? And it was recently that I made that thought. So after twenty years wasting my life on MMORPG and MOBA, I finally found the enlightment to quit video games. Not only are they a hellhole that provide the same form of entertainment over and over but they also, make me feel like the way you felt during your match. And I have to say... I finally feel the freedom. Take care Jingles and tread lightly in that virtual reality.
Thanks for the great motivational video jingles, just what I needed c;
You are very honest to yourself Mr. Jingles. Hats off.
now I will see T-1000 driving every tank. Thank you for this image, I did not need that sleep anyway
I really appreciate the spirit of this video, and in a small way it's helped me understand my own habits and attitudes in World of Tanks. Jingles, you may have just helped me suck slightly less.
I know the broader universe doesn't need to know this but I suffer from severe suicidal impulses and it gets to that same place you describe "Losing the will to carry on" but I saw this video when it came out and now, four years later I still flash it up because it helps and there are people relying on me.
I must say I really do appreciate this video, if I could thumb it up more I would because while the topic was mentioned in previous videos, and those who watch QuickyBaby's livestreams with your rages have also been familiar with this topic. But I feel like in the context of abandoning your platoonmate further exaggerates and enhances this message, and as you said, as soon as you can begin to pull yourself out of a tough time regularly in battle, the better of a tanker you can already begin to become. Fantastic, really good video
Very good and informative video Jingles. Had a similar situation in a game today. Was in my KV-1S battling a M6, bounced off him twice in a row and got set on fire, auto extinguisher puts it out, and his very next shot sets me on fire AGAIN. At this point I'm down to 120 health and all I've done is destroyed a SU-85 and put a shot in to a KV-1. I was about to give up but decided to keep at that M6, even with arty going for me too. Managed to put a shot in to him, angle my armor, bounced a couple shots, then finished him off. Long story short, through careful advancing around the map and avoiding arty, I finished the game with 5 kills and 3k damage, and only 15 health left. Not a spectacular game for a 1S, but I felt good about it after such a crap start to the game.
That was a pretty touching speech even if it was for a video game. you are awesome jingles and you could easily apply it's moral for everything you do.
Awesome video! That quote in the description is very inspirational, glad you shared it! Have a good one The Mighty Jingles!
Great Video and is indeed true that when you fight in a team you tend to care much more for the actual game than when you are fighting solo.
And plenty of players give up when XVM tells them there's a 30% chance to win, before they even start to lose. I guess they have the satisfaction of being right.
So many times I was thinking as you were playing "Why didn't you sides crape???"
Really good advice there jingles... had the same frame of mind for a couple of months now, but teammates pushed me on, and now im actually having fun!
This is really good video! I had the habit of not fighting till the end and getting discouraged too easily when WoT came out. During my grind with Tiger (h) I slowly got out of that kind of defeatist mentality. Now, 14k games later I sit on nice 2800 WN8 and 61 % winrate stats, but that Tiger is still in my statistics with crappy 48 % winrate as a reminder.. never give up!
Good point jingles, never give up, as long as there is a chance there is hope, I have had enough games in wot to realise that
I never give up and always keep fighting regardless of the odds. One person is all it takes to turn the tide of battle. Plus, you can't get those amazing clutch games if you just quit.
I dont get these amazing clutch games because i suck even more then Jingles. lol
Dear Jingles. I'm certain it has been told to you a houndred thousand times by now, but the video proves you need to get told again:
Stick your gun's aim, when looking around. That AMX 13/90 was looking for opportunities to take potshots. He didn't dare come up the ridge as long as your gun was pointing his way. He came up the moment you looked around and your gun pointed away, took a shot and damaged Foch's IS. Now these few HPs weren't crucial to the match, but they can be in different circumstances. Don't let the enemy know where your eyes are. Stick your aim and only then you may look around.
Jingles, i recognize this so much! Whenever i played a game and everything went wrong i tended to just yolo, do the last bit of damage i could, and then die, after watching Qb and this vid, i now fight to the lost shot in my gun.
Yay daily dose of jingles
awesome vid keep it up jingles!
I always carry this particular mind set going into a battle that I always fight to the last shell, until I'm dead. This is why on all my Russian tanks that have inscriptions, I put the inscription, "Russians do not surrender!"
I'm in the same boat as you Jingles: WoT pisses me off something fierce, but I never just give up. If anything I'll ram somebody or something, but I'll never give the enemy an inch. It's more fun to go down fighting, and I guarantee all but one of my Radley Walters medals are from games where I should have died but stubbornly refused to give up. Now if a TEAMMATE pisses me off.... there are no words -_-
Agree with you Jingles. Know this kind of situation, would be the worst moment to give up and let the platoon mate go down. Maked the experience already that when 2/3 of the match you do not a single damage point, until the end you can contibute to a win and be in the top of the team.
aawww Jingles... we still love you, old man
The only thing that makes me wanna give up is when i lose 10 rounds in a row cuz i had a no brain team :/ ( anf ofc i win all the games i am bad in but i lose all the game i rock in ... )
i feel your pain brother....
***** Thanks Gandalf... :'/
Dude,if you are a european player,when u lose a lot of games in a row just switch to the other server that you normally dont play,works for me :)
TheDennys21 yeah come to WoT sea we have a great community *sobs*
I am an average player and I too am sick of ldlot teams. In one day I had 4 games where I did 7 kills in each and was on the losing team. The problem is the low eff players at high tiers. There is nothing to stop a bot getting to tier 10. I keep telling myself that a winner never quits and a quitter niever wins but if it carrys on I will be quitting this game.
I can imagine that every time when Jingles is having a bad game, a small Denethor appears to sit on his shoulder whispering in his ear "Abandon your posts! Flee, flee for your lives!".
I'd like to say I never give up, but in truth I do. I won't actually stop shooting but in some situations all the heart goes out of it and I always die soon after, achieving very little. It's a very difficult thing to get out of once it sets in.
Wonderful video Jingles. Truly inspiring. From never giving up on your friend, to showing that you can always rally into the impossible if you just have the will to try. Buena! Thank you!
It's a good lesson Jingles and I think we can all take it to heart. I had one very similar recently, watching my team melt, only one on the Eastern flank, thinking the hell with this, all is lost. Something woke me up, and one other player and I rallied and ended up winning a very close match. Never Quit!
This video help me to get my confidence back. TY jingles
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Just had to say that... anyway absolutely love the WOT videos man. Not a huge WT fan but love the WOT
"There's always something to fight for" ... that applies to life in general too, it would be a great rule to have.
Need to learn to laugh at yourself and not take it too seriously.
I had a 32 lose streak once but it didn't force me to quit and just give up but in those loses i kept fighting to my last HP always keeping in my mind "If i lose i lose firing my gun"
I think I would uninstall at about 20th loss :)
I would not do so because I know im not the reason why i lost so much because i knew how I play on that matches i go down fighting and doing tons on damage,that time was Holidays and we all know how many tomatos are playing at that day its just insane to recall.
shinjiprofile I agree on this one. Holidays and weekends is much a nightmare.
Even afternoon
Manly Jingles is the best kind of Jingles
dat Astarte is lovely XD ...
I wish I had half your fortitude, Jingles, however little you have. I play 99% Germans (only going for the Cromwell right now for Brits, I've left everything else alone), and I constantly give up. Nearly every enemy I face bounces my shots from nearly every gun on every tank I own, the ones that I can penetrate with end up doing so little damage it doesn't deter everyone playing with their derp guns (and they are legion). Only recently I got the 75mm L/48 for my Panzer III/IV and Panzer IV and StuG and the L/70 for my VK3001H and only THEN do I even have a chance of doing any damage.
Even then my shots bounce or don't penetrate many times. Meanwhile I take all your tips to heart (sidescrape, angling, cover, the 15m bush thing, etc) and they do no good because my tanks are made of paper that someone glued spotlights to because I pop up when I shoot, or I get damaged (HP damage) when I get hit by a shot to my tracks at a 10 degree angle by an invisible tank 75m away from me inside a bush.
I try so hard, and I *know* I should be better, and I *know* I complain too much, but when I see what WoT and its RNG has in store for me I simply... give up, as I've been known to do in reality.
It gets better, believe me. Minus the stug, the tanks you have now are not very good. After tier 6 the german tanks start getting much better and the guns become significantly better. So just wait, the german line will get better for you.
twuest Thanks for your encouragement, I'm trying my best to "soldier on" down the lines.
TankCommander451
i would say, make those underdog tanks your own, make them work for you and never give up... had the same thoughts about the med line for russia... but manned up and learned how to best play those perticular tanks. Soldier on boy!
I've found that being stressed by something IRL (i e it'd be a much better idea to study, answer those emails or whatever) I get really pissed off in game and become apathetic, just like I'm waiting for a chance to quit. Because I kind of know I should. When I've had a day doing everything I should be doing, and haven't played for a few days, I play 3 times better. I can even see it in my win rates. IRL has a lot to do with my play performance, and probably for many others too.
At tanks like the Pz. IV or VK 30.01 H you indeed need to soldier on to get good news, however, after the amazing Hetzer and StuG to get to the amazing Jagdpanther and Ferdinand, lays the FailPanzer IV, with crap armor, bad gun, and troll mm. Good luck mate. But again, soldier on, the German TD line is a great line.
It has honestly never crossed my mind to quit and give up a match in wot even in the bleakest battles or the clearest victories. To me every single point of damage I can do in a match helps tip the game in my teams favor, let alone it gets me that little bit closer to my next tank. Also I have too much pride to abandon my tank and let someone have an easy kill, no matter how out tiered I am because if they are shooting at me that means they aren't shooting at my team.
been there, done that and felt the same way in more areas of life than world of tanks. You are not alone Jingles :)
Thank u jingles for sharing this, u just gave my life meaning again
I actually had a game something like this in War Thunder not to long ago. I was flying my low tier Japanese on Stalingrad domination and we were just getting wasted. I came THIS close to quitting before I stopped myself. And lo and behold, my team pulls it back with less then 200 tickets, caps two air fields from none and I basically spend the rest of the game in my hydro zero shooting down light bombers with a teammate in an Aircobra as they tried to sneak around to cap our base. Was one of the most satisfying wins to date and it would have never happened if I had given up.
I have just, today, started playing again after deciding well before xmas to have a break. 1st game back, 17 seconds in and my team start TKing each other on Highway! But I grin and bear it and after a couple of nasty defeats just start playing for a laugh. Sod the fact that for 3 games in a row in my brand new Chi-Ha i am bottom tier and left holding the flank against varying amounts of KV-1's I still played on. It really is amazing how scared a tier 5 heavy can be of a tier 3 light meaning you can hold a corner for over 5 mins! Suddenly it was 3 hours later...although I can't help but wonder how many of the KV-1's QB would have killed all the while making it look effortless!
That is my philosophy as well; no matter how badly the game is going around me, I do whatever I can to be an asset for my team. ...and if the opposing team wants to take me down, I'm gonna make them work for it.
NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER!
We all had and have games like these. I appreciate you pointed on situations like these. Best regards.
Jingles, it is great to know that u are a great guy and that u think that way, kepp up the outstanding videos!
hooray to jingles~ i had the same bad mindset a few months back when my win rate was constantly at 30-40%.. but i somehow found the problem to my bad streak.. i was being too serious on grinding instead of having fun with different tanks.. i realized on some days.. it's a heavy tank day for me.. on others it's a medium tank day and so forth.. and since then.. my daily win rate had been between 50-70%