Supposed to be, but they got really excited when Obama drop the law that said that the American Free Press must tell the truth to the best of their ability and when they were allowed to lie and take their lefty ideology as far as they could they left the entire country behind in sacrifice women and children, and this is happening all over the world. The free press is the problem. It is the checks and balances.
It was a team of Sunday Times investigative Journalists who originally exposed the Grooming Gangs and published the first artical by any journalists in any Newspaper on the subject many years ago .
It’s quite the opposite. It’s being addressed openly and the government is about to implement new measures to close the gaps identified. Justin Welby having to resign due to his inaction demonstrates this perfectly as well. The implication you have made has no foundation at all which is why you has to imply one and not actually state one.
@@SamDurkSheff Please tell me explicitly who is being prosecuted & what charges will be brought. Don't avoid the question tell me their names & what they did that facilitated the grooming of children. If you don't know it would indicate that you're just making up what you just said.
@@josephkerrigan733 What? I'm not talking about prosecutions or individuals who committed the crimes. I'm looking to the future to ensure this doesn't happen again and I'm talking about the upcoming legislation to change the law to bring in the recommendations suggested by the inquiry that was done (again which the previous government ignored). By requesting a fresh inquiry, this all gets put on hold meaning 7 years of work and £200 million was spent for nothing.
You obviously haven't been living in the UK. The tories did nothing and Starmer when he was head of CPS brought the first case against the grooming gangs. You are a mis informed tool of Musk by the sound of it.
How about we let Labour implement the findings of the inqury, then make judgements?? They’ve done 3 of the 20. Three more than the Tories did in two years. What do you propose? Suspending the application of the last inquiry and then spend 7 years and £186 million on *another* inquiry which will probably make the same findings?
Labour have been in office for a few months and looking at how to implement the original investigation's recommendations. That sounds like a pretty solid plan to me and certainly better than the Tories, who did nothing with the original report or recommendations for years as the government before deciding we now need a new investigation to waste more time instead of implementing the recommendations given in the first investigation and report!!
@@Knappa22 I don't know if you're actually this dumb but the previous inquiry just found out that there was a problem. What people want is for specific individuals to be held responsible & identified like the Post office inquiry. A public inquiry would tell us which police officer, which council worker, which social worker saw what was happening & turned their back on children being abused because they didn't care or didn't want to appear racist or for any number of reasons. The previous inquiry spent juts 10 days on the grooming gangs & spent a significant amount of time on the catholic church & other cults or abuses. All without naming individuals who committed the abuse in many cases. The fact that you don't want those people exposed is pretty disgusting & it's something Labour will be hit with for the next 4 years, speaking as someone who voted for them & want them to get this right.
@@josephkerrigan733 I doubt any public inquiry could go down to such a granular level as that. It would take a hundred years not to mention the litigation and counter litigation involved in accusing and potentially slandering hundreds or thousands of individuals. The most you could hope for would be a general statement like ‘social workers in XYZ local authority were negligent…” If you think that a public inquiry is going to tell us that “WPC Jane Smith of Smith Street, Smithtown did not report XYZ on 4th November 2003”… (now everyone get your pitchforks out) you don’t understand how public inquiries work. Some top brass might be censured as happened with the Horizon case but no more than that. I am not saying this is either right or wrong, it’s just what happens. The prime purpose of a public inquiry of a negative event, series of events, or scandal is to prevent recurrence.
Didn't the grooming scandal come from Blairs government... This scandal originally broke in the news in 2011. But honest question... what harm to anyone innocent, would an inquiry have?
@@alexbishop5004we have had multiple local and 1 national one. The last one took 7 years and cost 200 million. It gave clear suggestions, to which none were implemented by the previous government. The national inquiry was done by 2020 they had 4 years! That's why.
@@TheWingsofHopeandFear The Labour government campaigned and won an election on the promises of doing things differently and being better than the previous Conservative government. They have the opportunity here to actually *show* that they are better and that they care about British people. They're failing miserably.
When victims such as Emma Jackson approached the authorities for help, many were treated in an appalling manner. Even reports by frontline health workers were ignored. It is no excuse for Rochdale and Rotherham managers to say they had no knowledge of what was taking place, as they are ultimately responsible and must be held accountable for the appalling consequences of their lack of curiosity. Early retirement or resignation for other reasons should not allow them to evade responsibility and they must be held to account. In particular, we are deeply shocked by Roger Ellis’ receiving £76,798.20 in redundancy payout. He should be required to repay it. Despite improvements in their response to child sexual exploitation, we remain concerned by the actions of both councils. Rotherham in particular has failed to secure any prosecutions since 2010 and we are doubtful about whether the child sexual exploitation training and working group meetings are actually taking place. We therefore recommend that further Ofsted reviews take place for Rotherham over the next two years to ensure that the changes they are implementing are not just cosmetic. The first should take place by December 2013. At least one Ofsted review in respect of Rochdale would also be appropriate.
Will it all just fade out of the news, again? The child sex exploitation just has to be stopped, no more victims, no delays, for more inquiries; just activate all their already made recommendations.
There are way too many lefties on here trying to play political tabble tennis whith this matter. Lets hold both sides to account here, while not forgetting all offences so far have been in labour run councils. Something worth remembering.
I did not like the ad hominems and partisan whatsboutisms from the Leader. I wanted to hear more detail about how his proposed bill ought solve the problems, as well as how the govt will lead a multi-pronged approach to stamping out this type of deleterious crime.
I’m sure Times Radio will eventually blame Trump for this. It’s never the fault of the Brits. It’s fun to watch the mind-boggling comedy from the tiny island.
Not British, but interested in its politics: Starmer is poor, but Kemi is woeful. Worst I've ever seen. She can't seem to come up with anything on the fly.
Bit of an interesting dimension to think she hasn’t had this come across her desk before whilst she was in Government, seems a bias show against the Tories.
Labour now need to implement fully the 20 recommendations of the 2022 inquiry, as Prof Alexis Jay has recently outlined and demanded. Badenoch and the Tories failed to do this for 2 years and have *no right whatsoever to comment on the issue in any way.* Furthermore, how on earth would spending another seven years and another £186 million on another inquiry help victims and survivors?? No. We must act decisively on the former inquiry, and we mustn’t pander to the sordid far right who are solely interested in this because they have a cynical hope current government ministers could be gotcha’d
This podcast is dealing with sideshows - dealing only with the politics and not the primary issue. How about dealing with the point about whether there should be an inquiry?
These statements have been overtaken by events already. It’s now being reported that Badenoch has “never met a grooming gang survivor and does not think she needs to”. Other journalists were always going to check her record. The previous governments lack of accountability and responsibility isn’t going away. Come on, Tim, I understand you have to play the game because of your editor, but score draw, you’re having a laugh.
10-15 years this has been going on who's been in power the tories no point them doing the blaming game just get on with it starmer this shouldn't be a party thing should be all parties
@@hadrianlear1215 HISTORICAL sexual abuse. Going back way before the Tories. That means Starmer. That's why he doesn't want a inquiry. Next, why are these offenders in the UK? That was Labour for wanting to gerrymander and to quote Blair, Rub people's noses in it. Tories wanted to supress wages and get in cheap workers. But its not Tory or Labour. it's neither. People are going to vote in Reform. Tories are toast. Labour's Toast. They are irrelevant. The fix is simple. Immediately deport any foreign criminals. Second no welfare for foreigners. Then a minimum tax code of 40K a year per adult. Implemented as a change in tax code, taxed at source, raises lots of money. Second they must fill out a tax form and pay any short falls or they get a criminal record for tax evasion. 4 simple things. Can be done in a weekend.
The perpetrators of abuse of all kinds come from all across society and are not specific to any one group. Peoples actions reflect on them and them alone.
There is one rather telling difference which everyone seems determined to ignore . White child rapists wouldn't survive one day if they returned to live in their own community . Pakistani offenders on the other hand are welcomed back into their communities with open arms as though nothing had ever happened...? Does that not tell you something...?
What did the Times do to investigate this issue ?
Aren't you supposedly journalists ???
Supposed to be, but they got really excited when Obama drop the law that said that the American Free Press must tell the truth to the best of their ability and when they were allowed to lie and take their lefty ideology as far as they could they left the entire country behind in sacrifice women and children, and this is happening all over the world. The free press is the problem. It is the checks and balances.
It was a team of Sunday Times investigative Journalists who originally exposed the Grooming Gangs and published the first artical by any journalists in any Newspaper on the subject many years ago .
@@martinrose2833why did they stop investigating or reporting 😮
@@alanadair4893 They didn't
@ you so sure I’m not ,they do not care about the children ,it’s really rich going on now, why didn’t the tories acr,plenty of time, years in fact 😢😢😢
A nonchalant rant from people who don't care. TIMES RADIO.
The British Establishment seems extremely reluctant to address child abuse in ANY of it's forms -
WHY ?
Justin Welby illustrates this perfectly.
Because they are pedos?
It’s quite the opposite. It’s being addressed openly and the government is about to implement new measures to close the gaps identified. Justin Welby having to resign due to his inaction demonstrates this perfectly as well.
The implication you have made has no foundation at all which is why you has to imply one and not actually state one.
Well said! woke radio and useless commentators!
@@MarkGovern Yes, being addressed at Glacial Speed.
Maybe you should be investigated...
Widespread amongst this class
Nothing to hide nothing to fear. So what has Kier got to fear
What he's hiding?
That a new inquiry will delay the protections that are ready to go (and that the previous government ignored completely)?
@@SamDurkSheff Please tell me explicitly who is being prosecuted & what charges will be brought. Don't avoid the question tell me their names & what they did that facilitated the grooming of children. If you don't know it would indicate that you're just making up what you just said.
@@SamDurkSheff he could implement the recommendations and have another inquiry.
@@josephkerrigan733 What? I'm not talking about prosecutions or individuals who committed the crimes. I'm looking to the future to ensure this doesn't happen again and I'm talking about the upcoming legislation to change the law to bring in the recommendations suggested by the inquiry that was done (again which the previous government ignored).
By requesting a fresh inquiry, this all gets put on hold meaning 7 years of work and £200 million was spent for nothing.
Times Radio is choosing Starmer political side, not caring about the children's side.
You obviously haven't been living in the UK. The tories did nothing and Starmer when he was head of CPS brought the first case against the grooming gangs. You are a mis informed tool of Musk by the sound of it.
How about we let Labour implement the findings of the inqury, then make judgements?? They’ve done 3 of the 20. Three more than the Tories did in two years.
What do you propose? Suspending the application of the last inquiry and then spend 7 years and £186 million on *another* inquiry which will probably make the same findings?
Labour have been in office for a few months and looking at how to implement the original investigation's recommendations.
That sounds like a pretty solid plan to me and certainly better than the Tories, who did nothing with the original report or recommendations for years as the government before deciding we now need a new investigation to waste more time instead of implementing the recommendations given in the first investigation and report!!
@@Knappa22 I don't know if you're actually this dumb but the previous inquiry just found out that there was a problem. What people want is for specific individuals to be held responsible & identified like the Post office inquiry.
A public inquiry would tell us which police officer, which council worker, which social worker saw what was happening & turned their back on children being abused because they didn't care or didn't want to appear racist or for any number of reasons. The previous inquiry spent juts 10 days on the grooming gangs & spent a significant amount of time on the catholic church & other cults or abuses. All without naming individuals who committed the abuse in many cases.
The fact that you don't want those people exposed is pretty disgusting & it's something Labour will be hit with for the next 4 years, speaking as someone who voted for them & want them to get this right.
@@josephkerrigan733 I doubt any public inquiry could go down to such a granular level as that. It would take a hundred years not to mention the litigation and counter litigation involved in accusing and potentially slandering hundreds or thousands of individuals.
The most you could hope for would be a general statement like ‘social workers in XYZ local authority were negligent…”
If you think that a public inquiry is going to tell us that “WPC Jane Smith of Smith Street, Smithtown did not report XYZ on 4th November 2003”… (now everyone get your pitchforks out) you don’t understand how public inquiries work. Some top brass might be censured as happened with the Horizon case but no more than that.
I am not saying this is either right or wrong, it’s just what happens.
The prime purpose of a public inquiry of a negative event, series of events, or scandal is
to prevent recurrence.
Of course the Tories didn't deliver the recommendations to protect children but Labour is getting the blows
Didn't the grooming scandal come from Blairs government... This scandal originally broke in the news in 2011.
But honest question... what harm to anyone innocent, would an inquiry have?
@@alexbishop5004we have had multiple local and 1 national one. The last one took 7 years and cost 200 million. It gave clear suggestions, to which none were implemented by the previous government. The national inquiry was done by 2020 they had 4 years!
That's why.
@@TheWingsofHopeandFear The Labour government campaigned and won an election on the promises of doing things differently and being better than the previous Conservative government. They have the opportunity here to actually *show* that they are better and that they care about British people. They're failing miserably.
They are now in power, they can do it, but nothing happened. So yeah, stop blaming others for your own mistakes
The Tories are beyond redemption. This is their fault for not dealing with the enquiry outcomes, Jenrick, Cleverly and Co are the ones at fault.
Both of them are
Here we go again to these die-hard labour supporters 😂😂😂😂
@@yamyam2987 true they're pathetic but there is truth in what he says, the Tories did not live up to anything
After 40 years of cover ups, the lid is finally off , this is headline news the world over .
Pakistan's Grooming gang ?
This scandal goes deep and is massive .. This could quite possibly be the biggest scandal in modern British history ..
We in India literally warned the west about the love Jihad problem. And we were called extremists. Now they will atleast take this seriously.
Starmer was directly responsible for the cover-up.
Cover up. yet your evidence is so compelling.
Quite the reverse Starmer prosecuted the first grooming gang. Do some research or don't comment on things you know nothing about.
Sounds like Libel to me. Got any evidence, or deep pockets/a good solicitor?
The PM is acting as if this has stopped, but it has not. This is a game that effects children lives.
Shut up the I won’t to know why the conservatives didn’t act on the recommendations
No he is acting on the inquiry which the last govt failed to do.
How many years did the government that Kemi Badenoch was a member off fail to take any action?
Funny how the Tories presided over all these horrific scandals and the media will help Kemi blame Labour
The entire political establishment bears the guilt- regardless of party.
Labour imported these people
The Tories may have presided over it but Starmer was the head of the CPS, That refused to prosecute. They are as bad as each other.
Funny how Labour at all levels and along with Liberal Democrats dud the same. Councillor bigot will see you now situation.
@@dalecrocker3213 We all bear the guilt!
This child grooming goes the whole way up to the Royal family, release all the info not just about Pakistanis.
When victims such as Emma Jackson approached the authorities for help, many
were treated in an appalling manner. Even reports by frontline health workers were
ignored. It is no excuse for Rochdale and Rotherham managers to say they had no
knowledge of what was taking place, as they are ultimately responsible and must be
held accountable for the appalling consequences of their lack of curiosity. Early
retirement or resignation for other reasons should not allow them to evade
responsibility and they must be held to account. In particular, we are deeply shocked by
Roger Ellis’ receiving £76,798.20 in redundancy payout. He should be required to repay
it. Despite improvements in their response to child sexual exploitation, we remain
concerned by the actions of both councils. Rotherham in particular has failed to secure
any prosecutions since 2010 and we are doubtful about whether the child sexual
exploitation training and working group meetings are actually taking place. We
therefore recommend that further Ofsted reviews take place for Rotherham over the
next two years to ensure that the changes they are implementing are not just cosmetic.
The first should take place by December 2013. At least one Ofsted review in respect of
Rochdale would also be appropriate.
Will it all just fade out of the news, again?
The child sex exploitation just has to be stopped, no more victims, no delays, for more inquiries; just activate all their already made recommendations.
There are way too many lefties on here trying to play political tabble tennis whith this matter. Lets hold both sides to account here, while not forgetting all offences so far have been in labour run councils. Something worth remembering.
Most councils in England were Labour run so hardly surprising.
17:34 in and still no chaos
The UK better get its act together, its systems are based on honour and trust, its gone. They need to deal with misinformation and lies for once.
It's virtually impossible when most of the media is right wing and can't cope with a Labour govt.
Times is the British MSNBC
This should of been a non political matter
Why? The mass importation was done for political reasons. Gerrymandering. One of the consequences is graping.
The bottom line is that the only reason the Tories are speaking about this is because Musk has been tweeting about it.
What a misleading video title. This was a very civilised PMQs and not something akin to chaos breaking out.
I did not like the ad hominems and partisan whatsboutisms from the Leader. I wanted to hear more detail about how his proposed bill ought solve the problems, as well as how the govt will lead a multi-pronged approach to stamping out this type of deleterious crime.
Elon Musk says jump and Kemi Badenoch asks how high . are Tory MPs united behind her bandwagon , I think not ?
I’m sure Times Radio will eventually blame Trump for this. It’s never the fault of the Brits. It’s fun to watch the mind-boggling comedy from the tiny island.
He wants to delay things 😂 wasn't that a tory invention? They're as bad as each other
How is getting on with the recommendations delaying things?
Two tier will do nothing about this
Lost already then haven't you?
a proper investigation this time. Not that whitewash
Times radio second only to the beano
Kier needs that vote so bad he'll sacrifice our children for it
I hope being dumb in your family isn't catching.
Those die-hard labour supporters here blaming others for their own mistakes really makes me laugh so hard 😂😂
Not British, but interested in its politics: Starmer is poor, but Kemi is woeful. Worst I've ever seen. She can't seem to come up with anything on the fly.
This is an act of war
Bit of an interesting dimension to think she hasn’t had this come across her desk before whilst she was in Government, seems a bias show against the Tories.
Labour now need to implement fully the 20 recommendations of the 2022 inquiry, as Prof Alexis Jay has recently outlined and demanded. Badenoch and the Tories failed to do this for 2 years and have *no right whatsoever to comment on the issue in any way.*
Furthermore, how on earth would spending another seven years and another £186 million on another inquiry help victims and survivors??
No. We must act decisively on the former inquiry, and we mustn’t pander to the sordid far right who are solely interested in this because they have a cynical hope current government ministers could be gotcha’d
She got it wrong again😂😂😂😂 I
This oddly reminds me of season 4 TV series Line of Duty. Lies, manipulation and no closure.
This podcast is dealing with sideshows - dealing only with the politics and not the primary issue. How about dealing with the point about whether there should be an inquiry?
Keir Starmer vs. Auntie Tom
Speaker needs to be neutral, starmer never evef gives an answer!
No P M ever gives a satisfactory answer.
These statements have been overtaken by events already. It’s now being reported that Badenoch has “never met a grooming gang survivor and does not think she needs to”. Other journalists were always going to check her record.
The previous governments lack of accountability and responsibility isn’t going away. Come on, Tim, I understand you have to play the game because of your editor, but score draw, you’re having a laugh.
THE 👿 ALWAYS SEEK TO HARM YOU SNEAKILY, WHILE HE SAYS TO YOU THAT HE IS AN 😇 ANGEL IN YOUR BEST INTEREST . NEVER WILL BE
Kemi is this a new scandal ?
Musk should get out of our politics its almost as if he is out to unsettle western politics he isn't doing this with russia or china
Bring it on. He's raised the issue, now Labour and Tories are scared because of their past behaviour.
10-15 years this has been going on who's been in power the tories no point them doing the blaming game just get on with it starmer this shouldn't be a party thing should be all parties
@@hadrianlear1215 HISTORICAL sexual abuse. Going back way before the Tories.
That means Starmer. That's why he doesn't want a inquiry.
Next, why are these offenders in the UK? That was Labour for wanting to gerrymander and to quote Blair, Rub people's noses in it.
Tories wanted to supress wages and get in cheap workers.
But its not Tory or Labour. it's neither. People are going to vote in Reform. Tories are toast. Labour's Toast.
They are irrelevant.
The fix is simple. Immediately deport any foreign criminals. Second no welfare for foreigners. Then a minimum tax code of 40K a year per adult. Implemented as a change in tax code, taxed at source, raises lots of money. Second they must fill out a tax form and pay any short falls or they get a criminal record for tax evasion.
4 simple things. Can be done in a weekend.
@@adenwellsmith6908Neither looked scared to me. In fact they look as if they relish it especially Starmer.
Pipe down. Britain is a drooling lapdog of the usa and you WILL obey your masters in America.
The perpetrators of abuse of all kinds come from all across society and are not specific to any one group. Peoples actions reflect on them and them alone.
There is one rather telling difference which
everyone seems determined to ignore .
White child rapists wouldn't survive one day
if they returned to live in their own community . Pakistani offenders on the other hand are welcomed back into their
communities with open arms as though
nothing had ever happened...?
Does that not tell you something...?
Are these three muppets for real? Kemi roasted TTS and got to him
You aren't by sounds of it. Badenoch got firmly put in her place. Wow! Some people must really be super biased to think otherwise.
What on earth is wrong with my comment ???
My comment said:
"It does need to be "rushed through on the cheap" to be honest"
Jess Phillips is the _real_ victim here.
You're deluded for party political reasons.
@@adenwellsmith6908 It's called sarcasm.
@@adenwellsmith6908Being correct isn't being biased.
@@adenwellsmith6908No I'd say he is spot on with his comment.
Why english people not understanding...?????no action against Pak grooming gang