Part of me says this is where the sweet spot for the EV world should be.....at least for now. A city car with many applications. I recently saw a clever device that turns street lamps into Level 2 chargers. Widespread avail of charging combined with an under $20K price could give life to this category.
This car's ICE brother could've been bought in 2019 for 12,000 € here in Europe. That someone buying city microcar for 36,000 USD finds it "perfect" tells us that we live in alternative universes.
I live in the UK and these are far from rare here. The range is no issue for most. I mean, be realistic, most USA commutes are 40 miles at MOST, just plug back in when you get home - like you do with your phone - and you’ll be fine! Really hope this sells well for Fiat.
Range is overrated. Even on road trips. Charging speed and efficiency are equally important if not more so. On the other hand, if the Volvo EX30 comes out at the promised price point, it would be a no brainer.
@@davidmenasco5743plus what price quality, brand value etc? The original 500 was useless for long trips as the engine was underpowered and the car is so small anyway. So range really is less of an issue for a car this small. As for efficiency? Disappointing.
Some people spend $74k for a car that gets 14 mpg (Mustand GT 500)... It's what YOU are willing to spend for a car that meets YOUR needs, right? If you need more range, it's probably best to move along...
Question. I am seeing the display is showing MPGe. Does it have anywhere showing Mi/Kw? Why not? My old 2016 500e has that mode available for Mi/Kw (and a sunroof). The DC fast charging is enticing. :) I can't wait if they will come with the USA Abarth. Love those scorpions. Sounds like the music is Castelnuovo-Tedesco/Heifetz - Figaro. :) Played it once for school. Great video!
How can you not smile looking at this little thing? When I visited Rome two months ago, 500s were everywhere and it really added to the ambiance. I'm curious as to whether the Fed tax credit for leasing is still factored in if you were to buy out the lease. I'm a complete knob when it cones to leasing, so I have no clue how that works.
Great review. This really is the first EV I've ever found appealing. one red light mention should have been the charging time. 37 hours? how does that compare to the industry average? If Honda brings their E car to the states that will be real competition.
The 37 hours is using a 120v wall outlet from 5%, and it’s actually a TERRIBLE metric. More usefully, is to think of it in terms of 4 miles of range for every hour on a wall outlet or 30 miles / hour using a 240v wallbox charger.
As a happy owner of two Fiats I'd really like to see the company sell the 500e here as a mainstream product like the old 500, not drop "special editions" on us once or twice a year as they currently plan to do. Stellantis markets Fiat here in the US as an upmarket brand, but honestly if they brought vehicles here like the Tipo and Panda and positioned Fiat as a hipper, budget-friendly alternative they could generate sales that would otherwise go to the likes of Toyota and Honda.
Some of these are already seeing significant discounts making them serious contenders vs MINI SE. Your review is the best of any vehicle I have ever seen and incredibly engaging while providing all the ammo I need to sell it to my wife. Thanks for the presentation.
It should be no surprise that pricing adjustments and incentives will happen depending on supply and demand. For that very reason I didn't get into pricing that much. Now that automakers have filled the pipeline, things are becoming competitive again. Good luck with your wife.
Really like this car even though it doesn’t meet my needs with a family. But I would recommend it to a friend, especially given the previous 500e was probably Fiat’s most reliable car ever. Also thanks for not being bought by “Big Charger”! Most car reviewers say everyone *has* to get a Level 2, but these city focused cars are well suited to be charged with a regular wall outlet since I’d bet the vast majority don’t go more than 40 miles per day
Hey Tom, would it be more appropriate to suggest charging speeds in terms of miles of range per hour? So a 120v wall outlet is 3 or 4 miles per hour and L2 closer to 30 miles? People can then gauge that to how long they usually park overnight, so maybe 30-40 miles recharged daily on a wall socket. It’s less daunting to think about that way, imo.
I agree with what others said about this compared to a new (or even used) new LEAF or Mini SE EV. When the 1st Fiat 500e in 2014, Chrysler's Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne 500e famously said to an audience at the Brookings Institute: " “I hope you don’t buy it because every time I sell one it costs me $14,000; I’m honest enough to tell you that.” IF I recall correctly, the 1st generation sold so poorly that Fiat had to severely discount them ($10K?). I have an acquaintance in SoCa who bought one for a commute that fit in its range and it was amazingly cheap to buy and drive back then. At this price, with this range (even though it is a big improvement over the 2014 model's 84 miles), and lack of dealer network it looks to me like this is still a money losing proposition for Fiat.
Thank you for reviewing a vehicle with the appearance and the size of a normal car, not a humongous SUV or a pickup truck. As much as I like the 500 styling, it is a very niche car. Probably will be great for downtown London or Paris, maybe for San Francisco as well (one third of new vehicle registrations in SF are EVs). But $35K? Fifteen years ago one could buy a subcompact for $15K returning 30-35 MPG, and keep extra $20K for movies and night clubs. FIAT itself stopped selling gasoline-powered 500 in the U.S. Bring back the old times. P.S. "Tossible"?
Beautiful car, crazy that it took so long to come to our Shores. And we don't even get all the options. In Europe it's got a beautiful panoramic roof, great review as always Tom👌💯
I understand lots of people are enthused about the panoramic style roof. Our friend in Italy has it on her 500L. Gets hot in summer. We had ours dark tinted in our Stelvio, again too much heat.
As a current Nissan Leaf 40kwh user, a range of around 149miles is enough for me! Couple that with the more common CCS1 plug, this is going to sell a lot to urban commuters. I like the Mini SE, it's also quirky looking like this Fiat, but the EPA range is abysmall. The next gen Mini SE is not that good looking as the Fiat 500e too.
I have a 2023 Mini Cooper electric and I get between 125 and 150 of range in the LA area, the range depends on how much freeway or street driving I do.
@@rogermartinez78 I've been to LA and the traffic jams there aren't as bad as where I live. Here it's almost always a very slow stop and go traffic, which means little regen braking. That's why most people only get around 114 miles out of full charge, coupled with astronomical pricing; it's $70k here. My Leaf is $41k and the base model Ioniq 5 is $47k and that is if I can find the base model.
@@TinLeadHammer in the US yes, but in my country here it's $41k and no rebates. Though we do get free home charger, discounted electricity rates, and $25 road tax per year.
@@HNRichard stop and go traffic is where EVs like the Mini Cooper electric do great because of the strong regeneration, like I said I get about 125 do 70 or more miles per hour.
Tom, If you want 12:33 a fold-flat front passenger seat, Toyota will be happy to sell you one with their two door Tacoma. That has to be the craziest location for one in the whole industry.
@@TinLeadHammer As the owner of a 2005 Pontiac Vibe, it is hard for me to disagree.😉 On a serious note, it is irritating to see features like the fold-flat front seat and 40/20/40 second row seats disappear from the industry.
Tom, I have enjoyed your content for many years now, and yes, you SHOULD have over 1M subscribers. In order to achieve that however, you likely need more content (2X or 3X per week) with more variety: comparison tests, long-term vehicles, etc. And take advantage of Martin. Let him share his feedback at the end…could be an interesting contrast to your own views. Also, weren’t you supposed to buy a Cadillac Lyriq or similar EV? Was looking forward to hearing your decision.
Hard to pump out that kind of volume and keep the quality up. Martin does the occasional cameo, that's it. Still thinking about an EV but waiting until fall now. Focusing on my daughter's wedding...
I like this car and believe it will sell well - much better than the gas version or older e version. We need more cars like this for the daily commuter.
Looks beautiful, really nice design. With VW canning the Beetle it really helps the Fiat 500, especially in Europe. Seeing Fiat 500’s always reminds me of a friend who had one 15 years ago, told me that while they were driving the drivers seat electric motors went crazy and started crushing her into the steering wheel. No harm done but I’m wary of Stellantis and electrics.
The Leaf would be a better choice. More room and range for the same price. Similar to the Mini also which has more room and range and thus, more utility.
Practicality is relative. this can park in spaces the leaf can’t, also the leaf is hideous…and if you really need more practicality and don’t have children, just remove the rear seats altogether. Then you have a microvan with even greater range due to the lightweighting
Something not right. Here in Europe this car has official range of 199 miles. And it is actual range that can be achieved in city driving (I've had one for 2 years now since these came out, and I get about 2 miles per each 1% of battery in typical city commute scenario, less in winter but still.). I get about 140-165 on long highway trips, depending on the season. the 199 miles range is on official fiat website and is the first google search result.
A couple things- The US and European range rating procedures are different, the US tends to be more realistic. You might have a different configuration like smaller wheels that can be more efficient (I don't know the Euro specs). I'll assume the pack is the same kWh rating. Also, I drive more aggressively than some and around half of my miles were on the highway. I'm going for real world ability. Good for you for being more efficient..
Stellantis probably doesn´t expect big sales numbers with this 500e in the US. They do sell well in Europe, where this car makes sense. If you would drive in France, a RAV4 or Rogue will feel too clumsy and big for parking spaces and small roads, not to mention underground parking where a RAV4 will curb the wheels and scrape the bumpers on the first go. Anyone who has been to Paris or Rome probably has seen what parking on a small street looks like. Also a small electric car has smaller car tax and sales tax, which favors smaller economical cars. To me 500e is part of Fiat´s identity, they make those smaller cars because even though it isn´t profitable it marks the identity of the brand.
Nice little car but not at that price , $28k would be good. With Tesla and Ford dropping their EV prices it's hard to lease or pay at MSRP given the high depreciation of EVs
It’s about $7k too expensive, before the tax credit on the lease. If this was high-20s PLUS the lease credit, it’d be unstoppable as a second or third car for a family. 149 miles is plenty for the type of driving this will be used for.
Very nice looking car, but only 149 Miles. Not sure Americans will pay that high price for a car that doesn’t travel past 200 miles on a single charge.
I mean, the Tesla Model 3 will be eligible for the tax credit soon, and then you can get a huge amount more car for less than $2,000 more. But sure, it is cute.
@@tombache3426 LOL. Most of the people who remember when Italian designers were making cars that were more stylish than other automakers sixty and seventy years ago can no longer drive a car.
I think FIAT made a bad decision by not giving you a loaded version to review, Tom. This is the only city car with level 2 autonomous driving. It’s a traffic jam star.
A city EV with decent charging and (for a city EV) very good range. Nice. Yes, it's small, but ummmm city car! . . . missed the price and went back to the beginning for it. 34K . . . . . . really? There are a lot of used Bolts and Leafs out there, seems like the price is gonna cause sales to be light. I might be wrong . . . I remember Time Tunnel. James Darren, Lee Meriweather.
Would be the perfect car to own for city driving, for around $15k grand. At over double that price, its a no no car. There is just too much that's far better in the used market for that money.
I test drove an abarth years ago. Brand new. I liked it but I wanted to pay off my current vehicles loan. I take it they won’t make the gas version of this??? It’s all the car I need lol. I like small. I have a Jeep renegade it’s cousin or half brother lol. Too bad they didn’t want to do an EV Jeep renegade version. I like this better than the bolt. I actually just saw these at the dealership when I took my car for recall work. I should have test drove it. Seems all they have are red color ones. I want a white one. I wish they would just forget about back seats!!!! Just make it a flat deep floor for cargo! We don’t buy these vehicles for backseat passengers. It’s for two people only.
"Contrary to mis-information, electric cars are becoming more popular" - Tom Voelk All is forgiven. We all mis-speak from time to time. Still a great channel and will remain a subscriber.
This car will be a perfect pick up at $18k, and based on how ev prices are in a freefall, and that Fiat can't market cars in the US for crap since they screwed the last 100k people who bought their cars and were left out in the cold when fiat ran away....shouldn't be too long of a wait...maybe 18 months
Are you talking about the Citroen Ami? It’s effectively an enclosed golf cart. It would never pass American crash standards and Americans would never buy anything that small or slow. Pretty much the same for any of those European cars (even the Chinese sourced ones) that are under $25,000.
I think the Mini Countryman SE All4 will provide little more room and a longer body, plus it looks nicer inside. This 500e is too small for my taste in cars.
For $10k less you can buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid with more than double the range and probably double the residual value. Tom you really loose credibility when you pitch something like the 500e as a good city car. If you put your EV bias aside you'd have given this nothing but a big red light.
The right tool for the job Doug. Corolla hybrid isn't nearly as fun to drive, harder to park and lacks personalty. That's fine for many traditional buyers. My bias is towards cars that nail their mission, ICE or EV. I enjoyed my time in the 500e, so did my passengers (something I pay attention to). Value is different for every buyer. Ask anyone choosing between a Tahoe and Escalade.
"city car" is nonsense. You know how gas cars always have a range of 300-500 miles? It's not because that's the limit of how much gas it could hold... they could double the tank capacity if they wanted to, it's not like a 30 gallon tank takes up *that* much space even in a compact vehicle. They have that range because that's what people are comfortable with for the kind of car they buy. So the gasoline range of a car could be said to be the ideal range for its segment. And how much highway range does the gasoline Fiat 500 have? Almost 350 miles...
Part of me says this is where the sweet spot for the EV world should be.....at least for now. A city car with many applications. I recently saw a clever device that turns street lamps into Level 2 chargers. Widespread avail of charging combined with an under $20K price could give life to this category.
The original Hyundai Ioniq
tell me more about the device that turns street lights into L2 chargers
This is a fantastic car for city living, hoping to see more smaller EV's like this coming out soon. Great vid
Perfect ev for city commuters and tight parking. My commute is 5 miles in LA traffic, and my workplace has free chargers.
Public transportation? Bicycle?
5 miles? Get an ebike.
This car's ICE brother could've been bought in 2019 for 12,000 € here in Europe. That someone buying city microcar for 36,000 USD finds it "perfect" tells us that we live in alternative universes.
@@ms-jl6dlyep.
the most brainwashed and gaslighted people on the planet. Even on the flat earth 😉
@@ms-jl6dlyou are absolutely right. bro even a stupid leaf blower that costs 12.95 at Aldi in Germany costs 39.99 dollar at Aldi in America.
I live in the UK and these are far from rare here. The range is no issue for most. I mean, be realistic, most USA commutes are 40 miles at MOST, just plug back in when you get home - like you do with your phone - and you’ll be fine! Really hope this sells well for Fiat.
Americans use their vehicles quite differently. But yeah, it would work fine for many singles and couples.
I had a 2015 500e. It only had like 80 miles of range. If we had 150 it would have easily covered every single trip, even for longer drives
Yep, same here. But my Chevy Bolt has over 200 miles of range minus the Fiat style, ?For me, range won out in the end.
I've added this one to my subcompact EV list....amazing !
As soon as they bring the convertible, I’ll buy it!
Perfect city car ! Hope cars like this get more popular
I have been watching you for years and enjoy your reviews. Hope your summer goes well! (how about a Mini JCW)
Did you say 34K?! Wha? For what range... 149miles?!
Range is overrated. Even on road trips. Charging speed and efficiency are equally important if not more so.
On the other hand, if the Volvo EX30 comes out at the promised price point, it would be a no brainer.
@@davidmenasco5743plus what price quality, brand value etc?
The original 500 was useless for long trips as the engine was underpowered and the car is so small anyway. So range really is less of an issue for a car this small.
As for efficiency? Disappointing.
Some people spend $74k for a car that gets 14 mpg (Mustand GT 500)... It's what YOU are willing to spend for a car that meets YOUR needs, right? If you need more range, it's probably best to move along...
Agreed, this would be much more compelling at $18k. For $34k, I’d rather buy a Prius or the new Camry.
@@pilot9412 Too each his own. this car fits it's niche really well.
Putting that new charger to work! Nice Tom.
I only drive 50 miles a month. Would love to have this car. For $26,500, great price.
I like your car reviews and your personal comments are 💯
Question. I am seeing the display is showing MPGe. Does it have anywhere showing Mi/Kw? Why not? My old 2016 500e has that mode available for Mi/Kw (and a sunroof). The DC fast charging is enticing. :) I can't wait if they will come with the USA Abarth. Love those scorpions. Sounds like the music is Castelnuovo-Tedesco/Heifetz - Figaro. :) Played it once for school. Great video!
How can you not smile looking at this little thing? When I visited Rome two months ago, 500s were everywhere and it really added to the ambiance.
I'm curious as to whether the Fed tax credit for leasing is still factored in if you were to buy out the lease. I'm a complete knob when it cones to leasing, so I have no clue how that works.
Great review. This really is the first EV I've ever found appealing. one red light mention should have been the charging time. 37 hours? how does that compare to the industry average? If Honda brings their E car to the states that will be real competition.
The 37 hours is using a 120v wall outlet from 5%, and it’s actually a TERRIBLE metric. More usefully, is to think of it in terms of 4 miles of range for every hour on a wall outlet or 30 miles / hour using a 240v wallbox charger.
As a happy owner of two Fiats I'd really like to see the company sell the 500e here as a mainstream product like the old 500, not drop "special editions" on us once or twice a year as they currently plan to do. Stellantis markets Fiat here in the US as an upmarket brand, but honestly if they brought vehicles here like the Tipo and Panda and positioned Fiat as a hipper, budget-friendly alternative they could generate sales that would otherwise go to the likes of Toyota and Honda.
Some of these are already seeing significant discounts making them serious contenders vs MINI SE. Your review is the best of any vehicle I have ever seen and incredibly engaging while providing all the ammo I need to sell it to my wife. Thanks for the presentation.
It should be no surprise that pricing adjustments and incentives will happen depending on supply and demand. For that very reason I didn't get into pricing that much. Now that automakers have filled the pipeline, things are becoming competitive again. Good luck with your wife.
I'm glad Fiat is back in the game with a new 500 and this one is as cute as a button
Really like this car even though it doesn’t meet my needs with a family. But I would recommend it to a friend, especially given the previous 500e was probably Fiat’s most reliable car ever.
Also thanks for not being bought by “Big Charger”! Most car reviewers say everyone *has* to get a Level 2, but these city focused cars are well suited to be charged with a regular wall outlet since I’d bet the vast majority don’t go more than 40 miles per day
200 mile range and the previous generation's convertible top would really tempt me. With that top down, you'd probably be back around 140 mile range.
if it was 28k and got 170 miles of range... i think it would be a hit ... and it's almost there ... they could knock the price, tho at least
I want to see one in person so badly. Great review as normal Tom. I imagine we will see b-roll of you at home charger in EV videos moving forward 😀
I saw a couple! 😃
Hey Tom, would it be more appropriate to suggest charging speeds in terms of miles of range per hour? So a 120v wall outlet is 3 or 4 miles per hour and L2 closer to 30 miles? People can then gauge that to how long they usually park overnight, so maybe 30-40 miles recharged daily on a wall socket. It’s less daunting to think about that way, imo.
Maybe. So many ways to look at it. I try to keep things short.
I’ll just stick with my Bolt, eh
I agree with what others said about this compared to a new (or even used) new LEAF or Mini SE EV.
When the 1st Fiat 500e in 2014, Chrysler's Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne 500e famously said to an audience at the Brookings Institute: " “I hope you don’t buy it because every time I sell one it costs me $14,000; I’m honest enough to tell you that.”
IF I recall correctly, the 1st generation sold so poorly that Fiat had to severely discount them ($10K?). I have an acquaintance in SoCa who bought one for a commute that fit in its range and it was amazingly cheap to buy and drive back then.
At this price, with this range (even though it is a big improvement over the 2014 model's 84 miles), and lack of dealer network it looks to me like this is still a money losing proposition for Fiat.
Thank you for reviewing a vehicle with the appearance and the size of a normal car, not a humongous SUV or a pickup truck. As much as I like the 500 styling, it is a very niche car. Probably will be great for downtown London or Paris, maybe for San Francisco as well (one third of new vehicle registrations in SF are EVs). But $35K? Fifteen years ago one could buy a subcompact for $15K returning 30-35 MPG, and keep extra $20K for movies and night clubs. FIAT itself stopped selling gasoline-powered 500 in the U.S. Bring back the old times. P.S. "Tossible"?
The back seat is nuts.
Beautiful car, crazy that it took so long to come to our Shores. And we don't even get all the options. In Europe it's got a beautiful panoramic roof, great review as always Tom👌💯
I understand lots of people are enthused about the panoramic style roof. Our friend in Italy has it on her 500L. Gets hot in summer. We had ours dark tinted in our Stelvio, again too much heat.
As a current Nissan Leaf 40kwh user, a range of around 149miles is enough for me! Couple that with the more common CCS1 plug, this is going to sell a lot to urban commuters. I like the Mini SE, it's also quirky looking like this Fiat, but the EPA range is abysmall. The next gen Mini SE is not that good looking as the Fiat 500e too.
I have a 2023 Mini Cooper electric and I get between 125 and 150 of range in the LA area, the range depends on how much freeway or street driving I do.
An off-lease Leaf could be had for $12K the last time I checked. $35K? I don't think so.
@@rogermartinez78 I've been to LA and the traffic jams there aren't as bad as where I live. Here it's almost always a very slow stop and go traffic, which means little regen braking. That's why most people only get around 114 miles out of full charge, coupled with astronomical pricing; it's $70k here. My Leaf is $41k and the base model Ioniq 5 is $47k and that is if I can find the base model.
@@TinLeadHammer in the US yes, but in my country here it's $41k and no rebates. Though we do get free home charger, discounted electricity rates, and $25 road tax per year.
@@HNRichard stop and go traffic is where EVs like the Mini Cooper electric do great because of the strong regeneration, like I said I get about 125 do 70 or more miles per hour.
Tom, If you want 12:33 a fold-flat front passenger seat, Toyota will be happy to sell you one with their two door Tacoma. That has to be the craziest location for one in the whole industry.
Fold-flat front passenger seat, fold-flat rear bench and a separately opened rear window - 2003 Toyota Matrix, IMHO one of the best compact cars ever.
@@TinLeadHammer As the owner of a 2005 Pontiac Vibe, it is hard for me to disagree.😉 On a serious note, it is irritating to see features like the fold-flat front seat and 40/20/40 second row seats disappear from the industry.
Love this. Would love it more if they could shave $10k off the price. Thank you for today's video.
Was just gonna type that. At $25k there'd be lineups
Tom, I have enjoyed your content for many years now, and yes, you SHOULD have over 1M subscribers. In order to achieve that however, you likely need more content (2X or 3X per week) with more variety: comparison tests, long-term vehicles, etc. And take advantage of Martin. Let him share his feedback at the end…could be an interesting contrast to your own views. Also, weren’t you supposed to buy a Cadillac Lyriq or similar EV? Was looking forward to hearing your decision.
Hard to pump out that kind of volume and keep the quality up. Martin does the occasional cameo, that's it. Still thinking about an EV but waiting until fall now. Focusing on my daughter's wedding...
Scuderia was able to retrofit a 200 mile battery pack into the old 500e.
Why is the new pack small?
Cost. Bigger batteries cost a lot more. Also, it's a CITY car - it doesn't need to go 300 miles on a charge!
I like this car and believe it will sell well - much better than the gas version or older e version.
We need more cars like this for the daily commuter.
Looks beautiful, really nice design. With VW canning the Beetle it really helps the Fiat 500, especially in Europe.
Seeing Fiat 500’s always reminds me of a friend who had one 15 years ago, told me that while they were driving the drivers seat electric motors went crazy and started crushing her into the steering wheel. No harm done but I’m wary of Stellantis and electrics.
She probably hit a button that caused the seat to go forward to allow people into the back and didn’t realize it
$34,000 - What a ripoff. Not to sell. Limited range and just tiny. Maybe if sold at $19,000 then might sell a few.
This thing for $10-15 K all day, for anything over $20K NO WAY IN HELL!
what this needed was a hybrid engine +adding to the battery range; imo more hybrids are needed in the mktplace.
The Leaf would be a better choice. More room and range for the same price. Similar to the Mini also which has more room and range and thus, more utility.
Way more personality than a LEAF but far less practical.
Practicality is relative. this can park in spaces the leaf can’t, also the leaf is hideous…and if you really need more practicality and don’t have children, just remove the rear seats altogether. Then you have a microvan with even greater range due to the lightweighting
I REALLY want one, but in the olive green like before. I really dont like the color choices
Something not right. Here in Europe this car has official range of 199 miles. And it is actual range that can be achieved in city driving (I've had one for 2 years now since these came out, and I get about 2 miles per each 1% of battery in typical city commute scenario, less in winter but still.). I get about 140-165 on long highway trips, depending on the season. the 199 miles range is on official fiat website and is the first google search result.
A couple things- The US and European range rating procedures are different, the US tends to be more realistic. You might have a different configuration like smaller wheels that can be more efficient (I don't know the Euro specs). I'll assume the pack is the same kWh rating. Also, I drive more aggressively than some and around half of my miles were on the highway. I'm going for real world ability. Good for you for being more efficient..
what is your opinion between this Fiat 500 E and the mini Cooper SE?
Cute but $35k and Fiat's perceived reliability just is a no go. Looking forward to see what sales figures on these end up being.
Congratulations on the Level 2 charger at your home.
I love it!
To me, having a L2 at home is a must for EV drivers.
Stellantis probably doesn´t expect big sales numbers with this 500e in the US. They do sell well in Europe, where this car makes sense. If you would drive in France, a RAV4 or Rogue will feel too clumsy and big for parking spaces and small roads, not to mention underground parking where a RAV4 will curb the wheels and scrape the bumpers on the first go. Anyone who has been to Paris or Rome probably has seen what parking on a small street looks like.
Also a small electric car has smaller car tax and sales tax, which favors smaller economical cars. To me 500e is part of Fiat´s identity, they make those smaller cars because even though it isn´t profitable it marks the identity of the brand.
Physical buttons? Thanks indeed! But 34K isn't cheap.
Awesome. head the previous gen, they’re a blast to drive.
Nice little car but not at that price , $28k would be good. With Tesla and Ford dropping their EV prices it's hard to lease or pay at MSRP given the high depreciation of EVs
Cars I’m considering for next year: this, Volvo EX30 and the Mini SE. if they come out with a Mini convertible-done deal.
At $34K, this is only $6K less than a Tesla Model Y which is probably 3 times the size with 300 miles of EV range.
You don't get the 3+1 version (with the 3rd suicide door) in North America ?
Nope
Would be a great commuter car for 20k but here in Canada they are $47k after tax = no way .
It’s about $7k too expensive, before the tax credit on the lease. If this was high-20s PLUS the lease credit, it’d be unstoppable as a second or third car for a family. 149 miles is plenty for the type of driving this will be used for.
It's a fantastic car for city everyday use.....plus its an EV.
Very nice looking car, but only 149
Miles. Not sure Americans will pay that high price for a car that doesn’t travel past 200 miles on a single charge.
Yup. It’s for a specific buyer. It’s not like Fiat plans to move 100K in the US.
@@DrivenCarReviews that’s a great point. Didn’t think about the volume they plan on selling.
how many 500 are written in and around it?
I count at least 4
$35k compared to a Bolt? Yikes.
I rented a Bolt and it was great!
Can’t wait!
Thank you
I mean, the Tesla Model 3 will be eligible for the tax credit soon, and then you can get a huge amount more car for less than $2,000 more. But sure, it is cute.
Tesla is not Italian. If you know, you know.
@@tombache3426 LOL. Most of the people who remember when Italian designers were making cars that were more stylish than other automakers sixty and seventy years ago can no longer drive a car.
I think FIAT made a bad decision by not giving you a loaded version to review, Tom. This is the only city car with level 2 autonomous driving. It’s a traffic jam star.
A city EV with decent charging and (for a city EV) very good range. Nice. Yes, it's small, but ummmm city car!
. . . missed the price and went back to the beginning for it. 34K . . . . . . really? There are a lot of used Bolts and Leafs out there, seems like the price is gonna cause sales to be light. I might be wrong . . .
I remember Time Tunnel. James Darren, Lee Meriweather.
Bolt and Leaf, especially used, are great values. They lack the personality of the Fiat. Some will pay for that.
Would be the perfect car to own for city driving, for around $15k grand. At over double that price, its a no no car. There is just too much that's far better in the used market for that money.
Great alternative to the Mini SE and BMW i3. EV city cars for the WIN!!
$34k? For that? Can get a loaded Civic for like $30k. 33/42 mpg for Civic. This seems DOA in states.
I test drove an abarth years ago. Brand new. I liked it but I wanted to pay off my current vehicles loan. I take it they won’t make the gas version of this??? It’s all the car I need lol. I like small. I have a Jeep renegade it’s cousin or half brother lol. Too bad they didn’t want to do an EV Jeep renegade version. I like this better than the bolt. I actually just saw these at the dealership when I took my car for recall work. I should have test drove it. Seems all they have are red color ones. I want a white one. I wish they would just forget about back seats!!!! Just make it a flat deep floor for cargo! We don’t buy these vehicles for backseat passengers. It’s for two people only.
Sweet little car!
"Contrary to mis-information, electric cars are becoming more popular" - Tom Voelk
All is forgiven. We all mis-speak from time to time. Still a great channel and will remain a subscriber.
I like the car but they need to come down on the price. It’s asking for too much 😂
What happened to the glass roof that they get in Europe?
This car will be a perfect pick up at $18k, and based on how ev prices are in a freefall, and that Fiat can't market cars in the US for crap since they screwed the last 100k people who bought their cars and were left out in the cold when fiat ran away....shouldn't be too long of a wait...maybe 18 months
The novelty of a “frunk” will wear off. Like paddle shifters. A talking point, but not needed.
Shame because it’s such a cool car for the right use case. But that price, yikes!
FIAT, you berry phunnie!!😂
SO want the Abarth version... So want the Abarth version to cost less than $30k...
And I want world peace…
@@DrivenCarReviews I know which one we will get first....
150. miles? dang that’s about the gas powered fiat’s lasted until repairs were needed 😊😊😊
Put a gas engine in it and I would buy it. I love small hatchbacks.
Fix It Again Tony
This car is too expensive! You could buy a Civic Si with money to spare for the price of this thing!
It's an extremely tough sell at $34000. This one is strictly for the die hard Fiat fans.
I'm convinced that prices will drop.
Get a Model 3 standard with the tax credit and it will cost the same, have far greater range, and be far far safer
Fix it again Tony. No way.
the problem with all the european small electric car is too expensive where its can't compete with china made which cost a few grand
… a base Tesla Model 3 is 39k, Kia Niro EV can be had for the same.
Why on earth would anyone buy this thing?
The small size.
Daddy moneybags.
How does this death trap keep teens out of trouble?!
This is the best looking electric car ever!
You’re joking, right? 🤢
No. I'm serious. It seems like it's a real classic design.
Are Americans ever gonna see the variety of evs? Or only the expensive ? In Europe and Asia you can buy evs starting at 10k.
Are you talking about the Citroen Ami? It’s effectively an enclosed golf cart. It would never pass American crash standards and Americans would never buy anything that small or slow. Pretty much the same for any of those European cars (even the Chinese sourced ones) that are under $25,000.
@@DrivenCarReviews Renault Peugeot VW BMW Mercedes all Kind of amazing lightweight City EVs
@@oltskooler Yup. All I can say is look how well Smart and Scion iQ did in the US.
@@DrivenCarReviewsA couple of weeks ago I saw an actual golf cart with a license plate on a suburban road.
The inly thing i hate is the 20mph thing lmao, its too corny for me😂
This is coming from a dude whos owned 2 fiats, i have ny limits too
FWIW, my wife couldn’t hear it. Kind of faint. Had a hard time micing it.
I think the Mini Countryman SE All4 will provide little more room and a longer body, plus it looks nicer inside. This 500e is too small for my taste in cars.
What a waste of $35K.
This car has a resting bitch face, imo…. And I love it. Wish I were rich enough to own a second car.
it's noises are very annoying and frankly...ridiculous.
For $10k less you can buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid with more than double the range and probably double the residual value. Tom you really loose credibility when you pitch something like the 500e as a good city car. If you put your EV bias aside you'd have given this nothing but a big red light.
The right tool for the job Doug. Corolla hybrid isn't nearly as fun to drive, harder to park and lacks personalty. That's fine for many traditional buyers. My bias is towards cars that nail their mission, ICE or EV. I enjoyed my time in the 500e, so did my passengers (something I pay attention to). Value is different for every buyer. Ask anyone choosing between a Tahoe and Escalade.
It’s too damn expensive this will cause its demise. And fall like smart car. I can buy Tesla model y. With this price 👎
"city car" is nonsense. You know how gas cars always have a range of 300-500 miles? It's not because that's the limit of how much gas it could hold... they could double the tank capacity if they wanted to, it's not like a 30 gallon tank takes up *that* much space even in a compact vehicle. They have that range because that's what people are comfortable with for the kind of car they buy. So the gasoline range of a car could be said to be the ideal range for its segment. And how much highway range does the gasoline Fiat 500 have? Almost 350 miles...
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Live with an EV and you might find 130 miles is plenty if charging at home. It’s like having a gas station in your garage.
A city EV in a city where there are no places to charge…..every major city in the USA.
Some major cities have plenty of places to charge. Others, well, it's coming, and pretty quickly.
Not sure where you live but I’ve never had an issue, even when I didn’t have L2 charging. Still, best to charge at home.
Epic fail
Bang for buck is way too low. Paying $34k for cute and attitude? Seriously? Reliability? Get a small real car from a real maker.
everyone is lying to you tom
surprised you have the subscriber count that you do
quit whining about it
The encouragement is appreciated Tony. Class like this is what makes the internet better.