Turpentine Industry Documentary from the 1940s
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- The Board of Regents University System of Georgia's "Suwanee Pine"
Produced by the Georgia Agricultural Extension Service
Walter S. Brown - Director
Through the cooperation of American Turpentine Farmers Association Cooperative
My dad always kept a large cast iron pot full of pine rosin (a hard amber colored solid). At family gatherings in the summer, the pot was put on a fire where the rosin would melt. When the rosin was hot enough (near boiling) he'd put a bunch of potatoes in. Initially they would sink, but after about 30 minutes or so they would float up. After a while he took them out one by one with a big pair of tongs. We'd have a stack of paper (news paper or old brown grocery sacks) on a table next to the fire. The hot potatoes were put on a sheet of paper near one corner then it was rolled up in the paper. This whole process was simultaneous to either grilling steaks or frying fish and hush puppys (also in cast iron on the fire). The result was the best moist fluffy "baked" potatoes ever. The rosin immediately seals the potatoes so the moisture cant escape and the rosin is much hotter tha boiling water. A rosin potato coupled with a good steak or stack of fried fresh caught fish and an ice cold beer in a big grass field on a summer evening is a meal you never forget.
That sounds amazing!! You paint a great picture 🙌
Did the rosin impart any flavour on potatoes?
@MrKotBonifacy no, the rosin does not impart any flavor. It immediately seals the outside of the potatoes so no moisture can escape, making the potato moist and fluffy.
@@thehogdoctor Ah, OK then. As soon as I'll get my hands on a large cast iron pot full of rosin I'll try this method ;-)
Thanks for the info anyway : )
Nice story, thank you
Hey algorithm, more of this please. This is the content I want.
Check out periscope films
Oh great internet, please dictate my curiosity
@@jacobsamson257 in Artificial intelligence ewe trust 🙏
@@jacobsamson257 lol
Two channels you might enjoy -
1. Florida memory
2. Periscope films
Nice step back into time. I miss these narrated films. All the films we watched in the 70’s still has this format. We need to get back this format to replace the garbage that’s on TV.
They don’t make em like they used to 😅😞
Could just remodel the existing garage instead of replacing
Exactly what I was thinking!
@@Walkeranz 🤣😂
It’s not about informing you anymore it’s about entertaining you and misleading you.
I am seventy years old. My Daddy worked shift work at a paper mill here in NW Florida.
There are still many pine groves in this area planted and harvested by the paper company.
we were always getting scratches, cuts and scraps from playing barefooted outside.
My Mother would draw up a dish pan of warm water then add some pine-sol to it. We were told to sit and soak our feet in for 30 minutes. Then she’d bandages the injured foot or leg and send
Us on our way, back outside to get into more scrape, cuts and scratches! I’ll never for get the smell.
She also cleaned the toilet and floors with pine-sol. I still use it.
Palatka Florida is we’re you are talking about
@@cliftonjarvis8010.... ?? .....is WE ARE you are talking about.....what kind of gibberish is this ?? learn English......
I sure miss the smell of a paper factory!
Well of course you'll never forget the smell if you still use it! 😂
@@uhclem The Tacoma Aroma?
I use to live in Apopka, Florida back in the 1980's and would hike in the piney woods. Every so often, I would come accross a tree with the classic cat face. an old turpentine tree.
A 50/50 blend of real turpentine and boiled linseed oil is the best finish for wood-handled tools.
I do the same with all my outdoor tools.
Any idea if it would work on one of those caned rocking chairs that they sell at Cracker Barrel ?
@@chickenwing111
sand/scrape off the varnish first
Absolutely! I've used this blend for years and it will hold up for years of use.
Just re finished an old mosin with this mixture. Made the pine tar myself in my backyard. It's a skill all men should have. In a shtf scenario pine tar is so valuable
Wonderful presentation about this nearly forgotten natural resource. I've been using 50% turpentine and 50% boiled linseed oil as a wood finish for years. The smell of both of these is like perfume to me.
Me too! An excellent wood finish.
NOTE: Folks beware that this mix (when left in bunched up rags ) may burst into flames spontaneously.
Don’t breathe it and don’t get it on your hands.
I use it too, and there is miles better than any syntetic crap! Natural turpentine is not as dangerous as people think today, but yes it is a good idea to went i out properly the first weeks, but, unlike modern pretochemical products, it is only dangerous is the fumes are inhaled day after day in professional use in closed areas whithout proper respiratory protection, that does cause nerve and brain damage ower time (i guess that was probably an issue for the factory workers back in the days, or perhaps they did rotating the team of workers so they where less exposed to the fumes inside the factory...), but for outdoor use or make good ventilation the first weeks after applying indoor and not use the new oiled room until thew fumes has been properly wented out and the oilbase has set properly there is no problems i experienced and i use quite it a lot. At least that is my experience, and my grandfather lived for almost 90 Years... The problem with modern buildings is that we are practically living in a plastic bag filled with a lot of syntetic stuff we does not know how it will affect us ower time, the food we are eating is often contaminated with a lot of chemicalias, etc, that was not the case in historical times. However, one thing that is better now is that Today we do hawe better equipment for protecting our lungs, ears, eyes and skin, etc and i think one shall use those devices, i always use armoured gear whan i working with the chainsaw, i know it is hot as ... but it is not a thing one shall be sloppy with since many people in the past where killed in chansaw incidents in the forest, and i use respiratory airfilter whan i work with toxic chemicalias or dustfilter mask whan i wirk with abrasive dust, etc. Because i will try to prevent ending up as some of my old workmates. Beside that i think worrying too much about things that has been proved ower the years is more dangerous than using it responsible. (Sorry for my English it is not my native language...)
@@sheep1ewe
Excellent points, well said!
@@rumpstatefiasco My grandfather was a construction engineer and carpenter master in the 40-50s. I still hawe he's old drawingbord. If any creds for good knowldege they sould go to him, he did save both me and my father from many costly misstakes ower the years. Even the modern construction workers my mother did hire in with all their modern high tec laser super tools was highly impressed by the building quality he once made and no wood at all where rotten in critcal parts. 🙂 My father had an old book from him describing how to design a tar and resin destillery (for farmers cooperatons and small forest companies) in the 1920s. And, yes grandfahther had a horse as those guys in the film... I know he had friends living in the US as well in this same era whan my mother was a child she told me, they gave her a teddybear he broght on the ship. Must had been in the 1950s i think.
The leather shin guards are to protect against accidental tool strikes and snakes
I live near 2 pine tree farms, probably 3.. and there is the Florida Trail that goes through 2 of them and there are old pines with the two gutters rotting away inside of a trying to heal tree from like 100 years ago. The pine creates a shape in the wound that ppl call a cat's eye. The hike is full of history that I don't quite know what I'm looking at and this video helped make it a little clearer. Acres of clearly planted pine trees perfectly in a row on both sides of hiking trail. Crazy. Good video
I bet the next walk you took after watching this video would have been quite instructive. I always like the surprise that comes from this phenomenon. Enjoy your walks
I bet when you hike the air smells wonderful from all those pines
Born and raised in lower Alabama, when I was a boy, we
would go through the Florida panhandle to the beach . There were acres and acres of pines in turpentine plantations. We called the scares left on the trees catfaces. I enjoyed the video, it brought back memories.
The original scrape,with a box cut into the pine tree,looked like a " cats face"
That great that these trees survived and are healing.
Imagine the smell of the processing shed.
That's all I could think ... Must of been glorious
@@bryanjones14*must HAVE
@@Sam-ob4of I'm from Michigan .... It just typed that way lol
Turpentine, pine resin and tar, are those kinds of smells that are wonderful in tiny quantities but will make you nauseous if you overdose on them.
And by tiny, I mean a few drops, by overdose, I mean anything more than a cup.
I used a lot of pine tar and turpentine in my work, and the smell sticks on you. It doesn't wash off. If you work with it, you smell like it, and you need to stay away for a couple of weeks before the smell goes away.
You do get completely insensitized to the smell though, for better or worse.
@@Sam-ob4ofgive it a rest
Turpentine and rosin were used to make one of the earliest photographic processes called the physautotype .. invented by Nicephore Niepce in the 1820s-30s. I had difficulty finding natural turpentine the last time I taught this process.
@markosterman419
Yeah, someone opened their big mouth and said, prolonged exposure blah blah, bloody blah. Which is true n' all, but where are the lab coats spruiking the alternatives ?
I now use boric acid and powdered amber.
There is another compound based on H2O2.
Turpentine rules
Very cool! That’s earlier than any process I’ve ever played with. Any suggestions on where to read up on it/tutorials?
Well you can find really good turpentine, not that cheap Sunnyside brand stuff at the hardware store, but it COSTS like $30 a quart or more.
YIKES. NO WONDER. Now we (clearly obviously completely unnecessary) exclusively use animal sourced gelatin for our film rolls. So sad and embarrassing.
I miss this kind of reports with no drama, just information and good music.
well, these old videos are products influenced by their industries. You should watch the video about asbestos. It was the wonder material of the 1940s and 1950s. No mention about any bad effects in that video
As a child in south ga late 40’s many in our area “worked turpentine” and it was big business
I grew up in Deep South Georgia. Man watching this almost makes my body ache knowing how hard those people worked. If you look close at the beginning credits you will see the Langdale name. The Langdales in the Valdosta area are huge land owners
That was the first thing I really noticed about the film. I graduated from Georgia State University when Noah Langdale was president then moved to the Waycross area of South Georgia. I bought the newspaper in Brantley County where the Varn companies had all of this in Hoboken.
In the very early days of rocket development and propellant research, turpentine was considered as a rocket fuel (in combination with nitric acid as an oxidizer).
@alexhemsath6235
H2NO5.
Can it be used for drag racing fuel?
@myleghurts3546
I don't think so, maybe ?
I know a guy that puts 500mls to full tank of leaded fuel, once a year.
I was kidding! Might as well put Listerine...whatever burns wins a race.@@snakezdewiggle6084
Oh good grief!!! thankfully THAT idiot idea didnt take off or we'd have no pine trees LEFT when the sheer amounts of turpentine needed would have decimated entire forests!
this channel and periscope films has some real gems
Thanks for the channel tip!
Man, i love the smell of when the hot wire meets rosin core solder.
Same here. Learned to solder about 66 years ago and have been doing it ever since. I did electronics. Cut my teeth on a vacuum tube.
I am 82, & as a young boy I lived close to the turbine still in White House Fla. It continued to operate in the late 50’s.
After it closed I employed several of their workers , they were hard workers & good employees.
And you made lots of money off of their backs.
you were also on omaha beach fighting all those nazi bastards with a m60 in one hand and throwing grenades with the other. im sure of i t.
Yes and whats your problem?
@@deonkotzee6641 - Jim was his problem. Jim Crow.
@@andybaldmanwhiney special ed dropout from da project's
The smell reminds me of my dad and grandad, both truly good and hardworking men. Cheers, great video
The musical score is lovely
Shout-out to those hard working brothas 💪🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Yes!! 👋🏻👋🏻
Yes 👏👏👏
Yes. My how times have changed.
hard working gentlemen
Looks like a pretty low-buck operation! I like how everybody stood up when Mr. Bossman rode up on his horse.
My Grandfather harvested pine tar from his trees in south Georgia from the 20's to the 40's . Just a guess on the dates. He had a creasote treatment plant to use the pine tar to preserve wood. I only saw the evidence of his operation in the form of cat faces and cups on trees and a creasote vat in a building on his farm.
My dad used Packers Tar Soap and it had that distinctive fragrance. Who knew that so many products could come from pine sap! Bravo pine trees 👏
You might want to clarify what a cat face on a pine tree is for those who don’t know.
@@kaptainkaos1202 The troughs that were used to carry the gum to the bucket once you remove the trough the image is in the tree like a squinting it's eyes and smiling draw it on paper stand back 30 feet or so and MOEW
who knew that the tar would be carcinogenic
Fascinating film, thanks. Now I understand... my first job after graduation was with Bush Boake Allen in London who, at one time, were owned by Union Camp of Jacksonville. They had two tankers, which carried bulk alpha-pinene and beta-pinene to Widnes near Liverpool where BBA owned the huge chemical plant you see from across the river as you drive to North Wales. There the pinenes were processed into a variety of aroma molecules, which were sold to the fragrance industry. Terpineol for example is a constituent of cheap pine and lemon perfumes for household cleaners. The whole company and plant got sold to IFF (International Flavours & Fragrances) in around 1980, I guess, and BBA began to disappear including their onion and garlic oleoresin factory in Long Melford and their flavour plant in Witham. All victims of complacent and incompetent British management, I myself suffered the consequences of their incompetence but luckily I was young and able to move on to new pastures in the fragrance business.
That is interesting 🤔. I live in Georgia in the USA, and there are pine trees everywhere! Until now I just looked at them for their beauty, and for the fun of watching squirrels leap from one to another, and wood peckers looking for insects. Now I'll look at Pine-Sol in a new way! In my home we use white vinegar and water 1:3 for cleaning and it works well and leaves no odor after a few minutes. Its good that you were young enough to transition to a new area in the fragrance industry. The fragrance department is my favorite one in the department store. All those testers to try out. To create a new fragrance must be rewarding. My favorite is still Obsession by Calvin Klein. Those patchouli and musk notes make me happy! Are you involved in perfume creation? I wish you and your family a lovely evening over there in England. 🍂🍁🌲
@@ginny5937 that was the nicest post I’ve seen in so long! Have a great life Ginny.
@@kaptainkaos1202 Thank you Kaptain and I wish the same for you. 🌲🍁🍂🐿️
I worked for International Flavors and Fragrances when they bought BBA. Fascinating industry.
Oh wow I wrk at union camps a block mason here in Columbia SC which at tht time is paper mil now its a same plant but different name they need to bring more companys back to united states which made America great again Obama and Trump ws trying to do tht with flossis fuel and solar system an use of corn & syore beans
Lincoln, Lincoln, I've been thinkin', what the hell have you been drinkin'? Is it water? Is it wine? OMG, it's turpentine!
Can’t imagine how sticky a job that was collecting the raw product!
I know , i thought the same thing and what amazed me was the guys hands touching all the rosin buckets were clean . Heck i would be covered in it with needles & branches stuck to my hands!! lol!
@@steelwheels327, Rosin is soluble in alcohol so the workers probably washed their hands with moonshine and took a nip from the bottle while they were at it!
Very interesting documentary.
I have a couple very old containers of turpentine, one glass jar , another tin canister bottle. I had an elderly friend who had done a lot of furniture, picture frames repairing. He had a large box of many stains, oils, waxes, the turpentine and miscellaneous stuff for his repairs. When he passed away , his son offered to give me the whole box of things. I still have it all, and have used a few times for wood finishing
Valuble historical document
If you read the opening credits, you’ll see “Technical Advisor - Harley Langdale”. The Langdales built an empire in South Georgia, fueled by turpentine. The name is still very prominent in Valdosta, GA. If you buy a new car you’ll probably buy from Langdale Ford, Langdale Honda, Langdale Hyundai, or Langdale Kia. If you get a ticket in that car, you may have to deal with a Langdale in the courtroom (lawyers and judges). The lumber company still operates also.
Yep, I noticed his name as well. I bet that was Harley riding up on the horse and every one jumped to their feet. The Langdale's owned a huge chunk of South Georgia at one time. I'm betting that most of the out door shots were filmed around Valdosta Ga. The last shots of the city street was of Valdosta as the tall building is the Ashley House. I'm betting that some of the people in the movie were Langdales also. Having grown up here in Valdosta, it was informative, at the very least, to learn about the history of what made the family the legacy that they have today.
@@robertgallagher567 I've only lived here for 7 years now. I grew up around Atlanta so you probably know a lot more about the Langdale family than I do. I've heard that the Langdales owned more land, east of the Mississippi River, than anyone else. Do you know if this is true?
@@robertgallagher567that was Elmer Fudd on that horse and you know it
I buy my bandsaw sawmill blades from ict which is a Langdale company..
@@jakeburg4225as much as they own in Georgia I wouldn’t doubt it. I’ve never heard too much bad about the langdales either. They seem to just be a quiet southern empire that stays out of politics and generally runs honest and fair businesses.
My 88 year old grandfather still uses and swears by turpentine and lard mixture for sore joints . Also anytime one of his animals would get an injury maybe caught in a fence or fight with others ,out with turpentine lard he’d go . He said it kept infection and insects away . I can smell that coffee can he mixes it in from 20 yards.
Your grandad sounds like mine. He swore by it also. Cheers from Canada
A variation is calendula and lard for muscle soreness and painful joints. Warm the lard until it just melts and throw in the calendula flowers. Let sit overnight and gently reheat in the morning. Strain out the flowers and the infused lard is the lineament. Keep in the fridge or the lard will turn black. It is also astonishingly effective for headache. Rub it on your forehead and the back of your neck.
What kind of pine
Good ole lard
@@buckodonnghaile4309 I was just gonna say that from Manitoba
Reminds me of my elementary days. You can learn so easily from these step by step processes being shown. Kids don’t see this stuff anymore
Now they teach them 🏳️🌈 BLM ☭ 🏳️⚧️
@@1neAdam12 No, no they don't.
@@alexrogers777
Uh, yes they do.
In fact, some districts have even started providing children resources on hormone replacement therapy, without the parents knowledge. They will even go so far as to allow them to begin the process of transition, by permitting them to use alternative names and wear the other genders clothing. Some schools reported that they have a donation bin of clothing the student in transistion can choose from upon arriving to school each day.
@@1neAdam12 That's entirely different than what you claimed at first. Allowing a kid to use a nickname and change clothes is hardly teaching them to be LGBT. Hell even giving them info on how to get hormone therapy is not teaching them to be trans or anything, a person that's in need of that is already trans.
@@alexrogers777
Teaching, Grooming, whatever. Same thing.
What a neat video-for a number of reasons. I still gather pine sap and fat wood whenever i go camping-really useful as fire starter and lighting purposes.
It’s as interesting watching and observing what is not said than what actually is
Yes - agreed
@@geneva760 - Isn't it though? A little peek into the old Jim Crow south.
You know when I read your comment, I do right for the get-go that it was going to be racist
@@miketerry6036 I only know what I observed.
what a sad time in our country's history
I was born in 1952 in Salford, England, a ten minute busride into central Manchster, where Oxford Street had a great array of cinemas. This was the kind of great American information film I loved. America was a beacon in our lives then. America had helped our Dads' generation finally beat the murderous Nazis. America was wealthy, optimistic, had great new music: it was the future. And there was a great American-style milkbar on Cross Street, where I got my cold strawberry milkshakes that gave life a new great lift. And "Turps" was used to clean paint brushes, buff up old wooden furnitures, clean paint off the hands, and smelt great. The substitutes today just don't do it. Thank you for this.
There is a little place here in Florida called Richloam where there is a little historic general store that sits on property that has a turpentine history
I used to hunt in Richloam Game reserve off 50 back in the 60-70's
Note to self:
Harvest trees 9"+ in diameter.
Yields 7-8lbs crude gum per year (possibly more with a paraquat herbicide)
1 half inch streak is cut above the old PER WEEK
I once got a 2 headed nail all the way through my foot. My grandmother poured coal oil, Turpentine on it and I am still alive to tell about it.
Turpentine is the ultimate dewormer
I couldn’t imagine a more old school way of doing anything
I was amazed at how much handling of this product there was
Thanks for the video. I haven’t seen this stuff since the 80’s. I wondered how it was made.
It’s interesting that there was little automation in the process in the 1940s They relied on the hard work of laborers
Yes gave me some pointers on moving 55 gal barrels. Not fun, or particularly safe.
Well DUH! Work gloves,boots and clothes........
Thanks for the upload. I always thought turpentine was distilled from pine needles!
I lived within easy sight of a rail line outside Tampa. I often watched carload after carload of pine tree root systems being transported to mills where the turpentine and other products could be extracted. The roots once thought to be useless after the tree was cut for lumber sat in the ground, often for years until it was discovered they were full of the resin which could be recovered for use. The root systems were dug out of the ground and rail hopper cars were filled and sent by the tens of hundreds for processing. The way the trees are harvested today there is little or no real value in the root so they remain in the ground to decay so far as I know.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't people collect the resin rich parts of pine stumps and fallen trees and use them as fire starters.?
@@aceelectriccompany1181you are correct. It's referred to as "kindling". It doesn't take much to start a fire.
We called it “rich lighter pine”
In Georgia and the Carolinas, many of those stumps were bound for the Hercules plant in Brunswick, GA. My father spent much of his career with Hercules locating the old pine plantations that had been tapped for turpentine and then harvested for lumber (as the documentary describes). Hercules would buy, remove, and process the old stumps for a pine resin, which they in turn processed into a range of chemical extracts. The original Hercules Powder Company became Hercules, Inc in 1966. The pine products division was separate from the better-known gunpowder manufacturing arm.
Portal GA still has the turpentine festival every fall. Lots of old cat faced trees left in these woods
Always loved that smell.
Brings me back to visiting boat yards with my father in the early 1960,'s.
wow. creating products in this day and age today and to be able to receive the original knowledge is amazinggggggggggg.
Fun facts: "Turpentine enemas, a very harsh purgative, had formerly been used for stubborn constipation or impaction. They were also given punitively to political dissenters in post-independence Argentina." (-- Wiki)
Wow! Such a beautiful government!😊
Now, that was rough as a corncob, just sayin'.
This was great!! It certainly gives you an appreciation for the hard that men did back in them days.
for nearly no wages and no safety precautions because they were African Americans. ok.
@@johnnycats5157cry more. My great grandfather did this and he was white. Why always cry about things with a chip on your shoulder for nothing?
People STILL work hard on farms. I come from that heritage.
johnnycats5157 cry harder
@@johnnycats5157CNN told you so 😊
What a great video. I wish they still made movies like this. Very informative. Loved it
I miss these and the News Reels from when I went to the movies as a kid. Early TV then played these on Saturday mornings. I learned a lot from them. They don’t teach kids this stuff anymore and it’s too bad.
Yes, my thoughts exactly
Turpentine storage yards were numerous around Prichard Alabama. There was one by the Haas Davis meat packing plant along with the Turpentine plant. The Turpentine plant caught fire and my brother’s Sunday school teacher died in the fire. Different world today.
Looking back at these old films 🎥 gives me a greater appreciation for those who really did the hard work that kept America 🇺🇸 going back in the day 😉
Make America Turpentine.
The cry of the South.
Now the hardworking can-do spirit of the Chinese do it for us.
@@geigertec5921 The Communists wrought greater destruction on their own population than the Nazis wrought on the Jews. Now, there aren't enough Chinese to keep making the crap we use! Outside the US and Mexico, there aren't enough places with enough people to keep making out stuff.
some people still work hard or you wouldnt have a roof over your head or food on your table.
Watch some of the old films where they show working in steel mills, forging massive pieces of white-hot steel and moving it around with a crew of men wearing nothing but their regular clothes!
Another one shows how they made those massive anchor chains for ocean liners and battle ships one link at a time!
I own such a link, the one link weighs 146 pounds!
you really WORKED when you were feet away from white-hot steel operating a hydraulic press and turning the piece over by hand!
I miss my grandparents. They raised me. They showed me real love.
God bless you
Awe ❤
Nowadays anyone can pull out a phone and make a video... back then huge power lines and huge cameras and lights must have been needed and transported. The effort and skills to edit these types of documentaries way back then is truly exceptional and most definitely under appreciated.
Well, or you can shoot outside using the sun. No matter how many power lines you bring, you aint outshining it.
Film cameras: no batteries or AC needed.
Reminds me of the silly little poem we used to recite as kids...
Lincoln, Lincoln,
What in the world have you been drinkin'?
Looks like whiskey, tastes like wine,
Oh my gosh! It's turpentine!
Pine resin had a huge meaning in the East-German chemical industry as there had always been a lack of crude oil and natural gas.
There had not been a single pine tree of a certain size in the entire country that didn't have the typical carvings for harvesting the resin.
As a child I used to huff turpentine in south Florida in the early 1900's. This video was very informative. We didn't` have video in those days.
Huff as in get high?
As high as an elephant's eye?
Like the dude at 10:23?
So you're well over 130 years old.
Thanks for the laugh--an often overlooked use for good old turpentine.
thank you so much for preserving this pieces of history
4:25 they still used horses/mules even! In the late 1940s no less! Truly a piece of history to be seen.
I love the aromatic smell of turpentine. We used a lot of it back in the day for cleaning paint brushes and do on. Christmas trees smell like it.
This is really cool, as an NC native, I love those trees even more now. There’s a ton of them around here.
My grandfather did this work near Crandal, Florida and Callahan, Florida. This documentary is an eyeopener into that era.
Very lovely documentary from a time when America was still on track. thank you for the upload
Very interesting, I learned a lot. I thought it was a petroleum based product not ever giving it much thought. I remember as a kid loving the smell of it. The only use I remember was for thinning paint, and cleaning paint brushes.
There is Mineral Turpentine which is the most common these days and that, I imagine, is a petroleum-derived equivalent of the natural Turpentine we see being harvested in this film.
@12:32 - that electrical connection with the solder was atrocious
I've been an electronics technician for almost 40 years and I noticed that as well.
Dude must have full on Parkinson's.
Nah, it actually looked pretty good compared to my first solder joint. My iron was a heavy copper wire with a corncob handle that I heated by sticking it up through the grate of a Warm Morning heating stove. I didn't know about flux. My biggest problem was keeping the ashes out of the solder. This was sometime in the late 50s.
My mother was an artist and she used to use it to clean and thinner paints out and clean her brushes never forget the smell of that turpentine
God bless working America! 🥰
I own ten acres of land in Sarasota Florida, and all my pine trees still show all the scaring from when they were worked years ago. Now they are giant. 120 ft plus
Does anyone know, aren,t southern pines used extensively as telephone poles throughout North America? I live in Windsor Ontario and I recall seeing large stacks of poles in Alberta which I was told were Southern pine.Interesting, up here we have maple syrup. Down there you have turpentine. GODs creation never ceases to leave me in awe.
Yes, southern yellow pine is still used for phone poles. Many of them are made by Langdale Forest Products. Harley Langdale, Jr., who is listed in the credits of this video as "Technical Advisor" ran that company for many years. You can see the poles piled up like toothpicks if you do a google map search for 900 Old Clyattville Rd, Valdosta, GA 31601.
@@jakeburg4225 Thanks. Very interesting.
You can have all the poles you want as long as we get the syrup.
@@Torontotootwo New trade relations between Unkle Sam and us Kanuks. I like it.
Yes. Homo Depot sells them. Make great corner posts.
Thank You for uploading! Still way superiour product compared to all modern syntetic crap!
Rosin powder was sprinkled on boxing ring canvas & the leather soles of the boxers shoes for a no-slip grip. Medicinal Turpentine reminds me of Cris Rocks bit about his Dad's total faith in Robitussin for any & everything that ails you!
Tussin!
They need to sprinkle some rosin on the UFC canvas, the fighters are always slipping
My grandaddy started work gathering pine gum whe he was14 in 1899 in the Sandhills of North gathering. Ended up own and running a sawmill when he was 20 told me many stories of those days.My favorite was when he was collecting gum it would get on his dungrees or jeans and would hardened they got so stiif they would stand by thenselves in the corner. They made there own chewing gum from pine gum.
I remember the pines would have the slashes and pots on them when I was a kid. From south ga. all the way into fl.
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Live in NW Florida my father told me that they use to do it. It was a way for them to make money, they did a lot of jobs beside the farm
Funny thing is, we have alternatives for turps these days, but not for rosin. All the best flux for soldering electronics is natural rosin, and it's used for bows for stringed instruments. I dare say that turps is still used by people creating art with oil paints, but there's no way a contractor painting a house would be using it.
Well, there is in fact quite a number of "artificial" soldering fluxes that have nothing to do with rosin, and I'd dare to say nowadays the majority of people doing electronics (bar bunch of hobbyist and people like myself soldering an odd wire twice a year or so) use those only. Those synthetic fluxes are either semi-liquid, easy to apply and - more importantly! - easy to remove (flush away) afterwards, and they are used in all modern electronic repairs. Other synthetic fluxes are more solid-like pastes, more aggressive, that enable soldering to zinc-plated steel or stainless steel (which can't be done with natural rosin - at least not easily; rosin is basically good for copper and brass).
Painting? Again, people nowadays mostly use all sort of acrylic paints - easier to apply, cheaper and widely available. And they dry much, much quicker - days at most, not weeks or months.
And even a "real" oil paint can be thinned or removed (while still uncured) with all sorts of petroleum distillates ("spirits") just as easily, and they cost a fraction of the price of turpentine.
A friend of mine is an engraver and painter, and while he uses "real" turpentine every now and then, most often he uses regular paint thinners one can get in a hardware store. In the past people used turpentine because it was cheaper and widely available, and there weren't any synthetic thinners
Rosin for bows for string instrument (violin and such) is probably not easy to replace, but then how many people play those? I guess an acre of pine trees would produce enough rosin for all them musician of entire world. And I guess the majority of rosin nowadays is used in soap making (it was used in order to improve "foaming" of a soap), but this is only my "educated guess" (I'm a chemist). Rosin used to be used in soap production few decades ago, but can't say how it is done nowadays - wouldn't be surprised if all of it is now replaced by that ubiquitous sodium laureth sulfate/ sodium lauryl sulfate. Well, I guess it's called "progress"... ;-)
@@MrKotBonifacy Solder fluxes for electronics are still rosin based, as non-rosin fluxes are acidic, and will dissolve wires and circuit board traces over time.
@@Kevin75668 Fine, go and watch "electronics repair videos" by, say, Luis Rossmann or any other guy "like him" (plenty of such videos on YT).
Here's one for a start (with Luis Rossmann): ruclips.net/video/Zc4W8BdufZo/видео.html
And then tell me where in this video he's using "rosin-based flux" - cuz I can't see any, but then maybe I'm just blind...?
All those people calling for and end to oil don't realize this is what they are asking to go back to. You have to have a raw hydrocarbon like starting material from somewhere for all of the oil based products now.
I grew up in a family of
old school painters. Back then 1950’s it was all Oil Paint. My grandfather always used “turps” to thin his paint or to make glaze.
Put a rag with a little of that in your back pocket and you’ll only do it once... I think those were the good old days..
Crazy how this whole industry, and so many rural jobs, is now obsolete as paint thinner is an almost free byproduct of oil refining.
i work at a paper mill. turpentine is a byproduct they then sell. One of the swinging dicks there told me they make enough money off it to pay for the mill and labor, and they get the paper for free.
yeah,but it ain't free to buy, about 8$ a gal.
I'm watching in November of 2023. I love these documentaries too. In Greece they make wine from pine sap, called retsina. I tried it but didn't care for it. I think it tasted too much like turpentine. 😒
Oh, I've heard of that. I didn't know it was made from pine.
I like Retsina. But I am an old carpenter, and retsina Tates like a fresh cut pine board. but it is not to everyone's taste
@@tomjeffersonwasright2288 The fragrance of fresh cut pine is very nice. Perhaps it is a cultivated taste.🌲🙂
@@tomjeffersonwasright2288 , The story legend around Retsina is that supposedly when the Greeks were getting raided by other tribes, the destruction and pillaging and rapes were even worse once the invaders drank the Greek's wine. if the Greeks smashed the casks so that the invaders couldn't drink them, then the villagers suffered more repercussions and reprisals from the invaders, so somebody got the idea of spoiling the wine by adding pine sap to it to make it taste bad, and then they could just shrug their shoulders and tell the marauders "sorry, it was a bad year". Presumably some of these casks of intentionally spoiled wine sat around because people were too cheap to throw them out and eventually maybe they ran out of wine or had a truly bad great harvest and somebody sampled me now well matured Rosen flavored one and decided "hey, this isn't half bad". Personally I will say that Retsina is an acquired taste, which some people never really acquire. ( It was even used as a plot device in an episode of the old Michael Douglas/Karl Malden police drama The Streets of San Francisco).
@@ginny5937, There is a shrub-like species of pine tree which is cultivated in Turkey and elsewhere and used to produce a sort of natural chewing gum called "mastic" which is chewed to freshen the breath and sometimes used as a flavor additive for chewing gum and other products. I tried it when I was in Greece and didn't care for it.
In the Pine Barrens of New Jersey, we had a big turpentine industry, as well as a charcoal industry. All gone now, of course...
This is what I've been scrolling for.
Amazing product, I still use turpentine today for thinning high quality paints.
Fascinating to see everything in this video: the vats, tanks, glass bottles, racks, sleds, packaging… all made in America. Now most of that is gone.
My family in NC went from the whaling industry into turpentine production. Before the turpentine boom they bought a bunch of property from people who couldn't afford their land anymore. In the value estimate it was noted there were so many trees for turpentine production and already existing barrels to store it.
One person got smart, sold his land, and made a note they can have the property aside from his trees to use however he sees fit.
I enjoyed watching it. Thank you.
Some of my maternal and paternal ancestors did this type of work. And some were also Coopers..
My grandfather just told me about this.
I would love to live back then
This is the category of information of stuff I could have and should have, learned before. In order to understand current processes and methods, for me at least, it's important to understand the methods and processes of the past.
The guys in the field were wearing gaiters - I'm guessing that's for snakes. Very interesting look at old school methods.
These films remind me of the films that were played on projectors for us in the late 60s. I always enjoyed watching them and I still do
This was when American was great
Still is!
Great seeing how we've progressed in a little over 85 years.
It was great to see it in the medicine cabinet. Turpentine has immense healing capabilities and is still in Vicks Vapo Rub.
You must be joking. Just because it's in vick's does not make it 'medicine' unless you consider things like petroleum jelly to be medicine.
@@JO-ch3el it was listed in the Merck Manual of 1899 as a treatment for 60 conditions including yellow fever. Dr Jennifer Daniels rediscovered this in recent times and there are hundreds of case examples of amazing results. I’ve done it myself as well. I’ve seen people cured of cancer, autoimmune disease, childhood malabsorption systems, and many other conditions.
Yes, it is used medically.
In Vape o Rub the turpentine is not an active ingredient (though Camphor is)
@@petermescher332 that’s only because of an agreement with the FDA to grandfather turpentine as a legal ingredient their product after turpentine was disallowed by the FDA.
amazing documentary. thank u for posting that for all of us to learn from.
Growing up on the farm in central Ohio 75 years ago, turpentine was used for a variety of things. I also had many a cut or scratch treated with turpentine and lard.
Educational on so many levels, socially and economically.
Couldn't help but notice all those doing the work outside had very good "suntans ". 😊.
Yeah shows the systemic racism that unfortunately is still with us, in different forms but still here.
My Great grandfather harvested pine sap. Last time I was at the old house I could still find troughs, and cutting tools. Even today if the land had not been cut for homes I'll promise you I can take you to the trees they harvested from. They lived simple lives but they made the best of what they had.
Thanks for sharing!
Bet there are a lot of folks who would like to know how that area under the pine (understory) was maintained. That would be a story of it’s own!
Wow I’ve learned something new today thanks
I don't live in a region that grows gum pines, so never saw the collection process before this film. I was surprised by how much it resembles latex harvesting. I just assumed it would follow a procedure more akin to tapping maple sap. Now I know! Thanks for posting the vintage film.
Such a great video and I really enjoyed watching the good old days which I really miss so much 😢
The good old days when everyone worked despite being different skin colors.
People worked hard in this country to make it great.
Look what the Democrats have done. Shameful
@@augustwest8559 more like shame on us for letting them get away because not only are we letting our ancestors that fought to give us this great land down but we are also giving our future generations a broken country because we sit and let them get away with it and the big questions is are they going to rig it again like they did last time and are we going to let them get away with it again like we did last time at this point I'm just praying for a Big giant asteroid to save us all from idiocracy 🙏🙄
This is the type of documentaries i remember