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The Baskinator has just delivered the news that Arrowhead's balance patch has been pushed back, and I have an alternate suggestion for the release. Johan has been sighted playing Helldivers, but we need to know more! Two new dispatches have arrived on our ship, and it's time to unpack what they say. Helldivers recieved a new hotfix, and finally, we seem to be making progress on Meridia...finally!
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I'd rather them DELAY how ever long they need, than it coming out BROKE AF. Just do it right, that's ALL that matters!
My philosophical brain: There was no eta on the balance patch so how could it be delayed?
@@TravisStockton They previously said that it would go live by the end of the month. That was followed by a message a few days ago that it would not.happen this week.
@@oKeNSchWarZo And if it comes out broken AF even after the delays, what you will just sit and wait for the next one?
Weird. I recall no dates given in any public announcement. In fact I remember them intentionally not giving a date so people would say that it was delayed.
Honestly I'd rather have a late but good update, than a fast but half-baked update
What about a fast and good update?
@@cp70375unlikely with the pressure the community is putting on the devs with all the "Fix this!, Nerf that, Buff it! More stuff!"
We should really give them time and instead of complaining about stuff being too hard just get better.
@@cp70375 Sometimes ain't the result, if the previous ones aren't a tell.
"A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is bad forever" ~~Shigeru Miyamoto
this applies to patches as well obv. sooo devs taking their time? i'm all for it.
Exactly
This mission just made me realize how much the normal jetpack sucks. The darkfluid jetpack sends you really high in the air and you travel much further, than the exaggerated jump the current jetpacks provide. I normally don't use the jetpack, after a darkfluid mission, I tried a standard one and said right away "oh this is much less fun, nevermind".
I have a feeling this is just a preview of whats to come. Existing weapons infused with dark fluid tech, and we get the buffs we desperately need!
@@lsr444 Hopefully.
The jetpack is much like everything else in the game. It's barely ok under specific circumstances and absolutely useless the majority of the time.
@@GoodBoyGoneDad The jetpack is amazing at hopping over the large curbs the other helldivers cannot surpass....while chargers glide up mountain ranges with ease like mountain goats.
Agree. I’m optimistic. I think this maybe a preview of things to come. It’s very possible they can release a ship upgrade for the jump pack in the near future.
The Illuminate had better not arrive between now and the patch, because they won't be impressed with our marshmallow guns and peashooters... 😢
I been saying this for weeks🤦🏽
The purifier is still bugged too.... Like fuck man!
“After all this time, this is the best you’ve come up with? You guys beat us? Oh how the mighty Helldivers have fallen.”
And this is why I went back to elden ring. I need to get gud at doing more than running away. When this channel let's me know the fun's back I'll check it out, but I won't be doing anything but collecting medals until I unlock everything.
@@BlahBohogun They need to give it actual medium armor pen and cut the charge time in half.
My favorite part of Helldivers is the keyfabe of everyone. "Our scientists rapidly developed drill technologies... to repel bugs" is SO much better than "Yeah, the bug holes opening so close to the drill isn't good, so we made it not that."
I feel like having 'in universe" explainations for patches helps greatly with immersion. I hope when they finally fix the Spear's targetting that they post something about how the production facility that originally produced the spear and its faulty targetting was dismantled and and repurposed to civilian rations production and its software engineers were discovered to be dissident infiltrators and executed
The fact that we’re getting no extension for the operation after the first day or two of getting no progress made due to a *technicality on their part* does not instill me with any confidence about our success on this Major Order.
Arguably, while I agree with you, maybe failing it will actually make for a more interesting narrative. Especially since we don't have a guaranteed tangible reward for beating the order aside from medals that most of us are maxed on.
Us not making progress wasn't due to the exp bug. It was intended due to the high regen rate. Which has been lowering and now we are making progress. So keep at it
@@vlanson6529 Aside from the total destruction of a planet, and in turn disrupting the Terminid supply chain?
Yeah, no- this reeks of intentional sabotage. Joel only sets the task before us, and we're supposed to answer. If the DM decides to have a pre-determined outcome while under the illusion of giving us a chance to succeed, then why bother giving us the opportunity to turn it around?
We failed the body-count Major Orders twice- one of them was supposed to be giving us Anti-Tank Mines that could have helped greatly against the Chargers and even cripple Bile Titans! And that's because these types of orders came after the PSN fuster-cluck that turned off many players from ever coming back, ontop of the 'pro-nerf' mentality by the balance team.
If they wanted us to fail, at least have the decency of not offering a reward for trying to succeed in a doomed campaign.
@@vlanson6529well the dark fluid is associated with the illuminate and it’s been theorized that destroying the planet will create a balck hole for the illuminate to remerge
@@vlanson6529 Narrative? What narrative? We wiped out the bots, only to have them magically reappear even stronger two days later. I forget what the map looked like at launch, but the bots have to occupy close to/more than they did at launch. On the bug side, we had them hemmed in to the tiny strip at the right of the map. Magically, they launch some huge offensive, pushing us back at least two sectors. On top of that, we have the supercolony (popped out of nowhere again), and will almost assuredly fail this MO, unless Arrowhead drop that modifier to -1% or something.
There should be some kind of balance between the Helldivers and the bots/bugs. Everything seems in favor of the enemies. They give us two mechs, which should turn the tide of battle in our favor. One was at an appropriate power level, so it was nerfed into the ground, and I haven't seen it in a single match since the nerf. The other mech, which should be even stronger, runs out of ammo in about two minutes if you're shooting at anything with armor, which should be its specialty. Again, I haven't seen a single person use it on a difficulty higher than 5. Meanwhile, the bots get a Strider, which needs an Eagle 500 AND an Orbital Laser/Railcannon to take down. They also found the time to create gunships. Remember, we wiped them off the entire map. For the bugs, despite us killing 2 billion of them in like 2 days, they are just magically stronger than ever before, constantly pushing us back.
The narrative is true in one department, though. We've lost a lot of Helldivers in missions. That's translated to real life, where we've lost a lot of players. The playerbase dropped by over half from April 1 - May 1, and then roughly half again from May 1 - June 1. From the all-time peak in February, we've lost almost 90% of the entire playerbase. That's an insane number, considering a game like 7 Days to Die has lost about 80% of the peak playerbase. The only difference is, 7 Days lost that playerbase over a span of over 10.5 years, not 3.5 months.
I don't think Johan made it out of that mission and that's why we got the hot fix to the spawning of bugs directly on top of the drill
Weekly updates/patching was absolutely insane to begin with, imo. That's such a massive commitment and resource/mental drain that I'm still impressed they were able to keep that train going as long as they had. Devs taking time to make sure what they want to add and change about THEIR game is ALWAYS a good thing. They obviously care, otherwise they wouldn't be so obvious about trying to improve how they communicate with the player base.
Well it would've helped if the things they released were actually good, because it is obvious it isn't, also leaving the guns people were using alone would've mitigate the fatigue and disappointment people got, was there a necessity of gutting the crossbow and the eruptor ? was there a necessity to nerf the arc thrower range to the ground and "fixing" the only bug that made it bearable with all the bugs it had to begin with, also what's the point of adding stagger to the arc thrower and soon after buffing enemy stagger resistance making it a thrash with short range support weapon ?
@@Tamachii12the arc thrower and slugger nerf is what made me quit playing, it’s ridiculous.
@@Tamachii12 But...they're slowing things down...so that they CAN release better stuff...AND make better decisions on balances...that's the point of slowing things down
@@Tamachii12 People just love to bitch.
"Glad to see the devs slow down so they can make better patches moving forward."
"Waah! Waah! They could've just made good patches! Waah! Waah!"
@@Matthias129 And they couldn't ? why the hell they released the Polar Patriot warbond in such a state, armor sets with identical skills, nothing related to Polar aside the armor color, weapons that are literally thrash or barely usable ? also i still scratch my head on some of their decisions like nerfing the xbow(which people barely used).
I've never seen a game start out so strong, only to shoot itself in the foot each and every patch.
Yeah it is like they were good with your initial investment of buying the game by the millions but then they got sick of you and the high server costs so they started sabotaging their sh*t on purpose.
I'd say PayDay 3, but it kind of had an over hyped pre-release life, stumbled on launch, and has rolled around in the mud ever since trying to get back into relevance.
This tends to happen when developers get overworked. Believe me, the problem is that they were making weekly patches.
“Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”
They're killing the game.
Just a reminder Termanids are used a fuel for our Warp drives aka Element-710 and Meridia is stuffed full of em.
read E-710 upside down
OIL-E
@@Deathscythe91Dear god
We are also using exotic matter which is negative mass (Aka for gravity it pushes rather than pulls)
Too risky to leave Meridia alive
Do you want stronger mutations of the shriekers and stalkers?
kinda funny that they have no issue doing weekly patches when they're nerfing weapons but as soon as they need to buff those same weapons it takes them a month to get a single patch done
Probably because the head balance dev keeps chucking a for about them undoing his 'perfect balance'
Yeah. Small patches to undo the terrible “balance” changes should be doable.
They were weekly buffing weapons. The two strongest primary weapons are weapons that received large buffs (Jar dominator and breaker incendiary). If you compare those two weapons to what we had at release, you'd realize that they are power creeped by a lot. Goes to show that buffs become the new baseline and get forgotten, while nerfs are the only thing that ever gets remembered. Negativity bias in a nutshell.
@@iateapinecone9053 its funny burnout and quality of life was used by baskinator. All i could see from that message was the balance team digging at anything to justify their stupid.
@@josephburchanowski4636 wow they buffed 2 weapons that are locked behind a $15 premium pass. How underwhelming. How about they do another free pass, or actually put content worth $15 into the premium warbonds instead of 3 sets of armour with the same perk and 3 guns 2 of which are normally dogshit
What dose the unity cape matter if the sony thing is not fixed?
The “victory” against Sony was a lie. We were played for absolute fools!
It matters a lot.
It makes the joke that much more funny.
In the "haha, it's so fucked up" kinda way
If I remember right I'm not 100% correct but I think steam just removed the ability to buy the game from countries unsupported by sony.
@@Mrskeleeqwe Correct. More than half the players who bought the game can’t play it. And that still wasn’t fixed!
Sony’s response was a farce. We were played for absolute fools! They have no intention to fix this game ban.
@@bucketbuoyancy235 Agreed. sony sucks ass 👍👍
before the start buffing weapons to fun and cool again i wont be returning.
Most weapons are fun through?
@@honorguard7616Good for you, if that's the case, for many others, it's not.
@@crowjax8855 many immediately dropped the breaker when it was nerfed, not even give it a second look, still fun to use but yea...
Good, please don't come back.
Good. Leave this game, let's just let it die already. Devs crave it
there is still 1 bug that arrowhead won't fix and that is connectivity isseus between playstation and pc, I have consistent amazing internet connection with cable and my friends too but in every match we play we get kicked out for some reason and it is so infuriation because you have to join every time that happens and sometimes it happens on the end we the ship lands to pick us up.
Don't worry, you're not missing anything.
@@dekeaustin
"I can't play the game I like with my friend"
"Good it sucks anyways"
"won't" is the wrong word.
I've been playing with a friend that plays on PC ( Im on PS5) I dont have any connection problem with him to be true most of problems about friend invitition or friend blocking that people speak about I never experience (doenst mean that they dont exist of course).
crossplay is busted and has problems in most games. if you want performance best to just turn it off. it is a night and day difference.
I have been waiting for the patch to get back into the game but I decided to give the game a try this morning. Joined a crew in an ICBM mission. 25 mins in and headed towards extraction and the game fucking kicks me out. If I wanted to get fucked I would just go back to living life!
Lmao feel your pain brother. Not playing till the network issues are sorted. Wasted too many hours already
@@iateapinecone9053 updating this. I logged back in to play w friends. It kicked all of us four times in a total of 5 matches lol this game is so broken now.
As a fire + gas user the fixed spawns are great since I can just make a wall of DoT death on the breaches and it won't affect the pump
After having the dark fluid jetpack, it’s gonna suck to go back to the original. The dark fluid one is so much more fun. It also has a greater travel distance and height.
Killing teamates with the darkpack is so evil but also so hilariously fun. I usually just save it for the guys that are wrecking the drill constantly 😂 they dont even know what him em(me being evil)😂
I bet the patch fixes background issues, addresses really small weapon balances, and will seem really small considering it took a month to roll out.
I mean, they said they were slowing down, multiple times. They were putting studios multiple times their size to shame with frequency and volume of their updates. That was unsustainable. Though honestly, I have the feeling you'd bitch about their work regardless of speed or quality.
@@Matthias129 He is probablyy right though. And unlike you doesn't drop to his knees to lip lock their zippers every time they post something.
Good new everyone the patch fixes a misplased rock on map 3 and we gives you buffs like you asked +1 damage to everything and taken away all mags to make up that power spike teehee and there was a light out of place in the super destroyer and we rotated it 27`, and we made charger fly and bile titans blow up when the spit good luck hehe.
@@Matthias129putting to shame? Nah. All they did was release buggy half assed balance patches and drip feed us a few new stratagems that were likely already close to if not already finished when the game launched. All they've done is set an unsustainable rate of nerfs and fun destroying
Hard disagree on them rolling out changes a bit quicker, we already had them doing that and it made only more bugs appear. They DO need to take their time polishing the game FIRST so they can get to a point where they can roll out the new additional content in a less bug ridden environment...
I'm sitting here wishing they'd waited to release the game 3 months. So many of these problems could have been dealt with.
Feels like they could have reverted the changes before a huge storyline event. The game is stale in an un-fun state and the player count reflects that. I remember there being 75k+ divers on meridia for the TCS, now we struggle to even get 50k at a time
That’s a bit much buddy
They weren't though. Their major update changes were like 4-5 weeks apart for basic number tweaks (balance). How much longer is 'acceptable' to wait for them to undo crap changes they've made? Realistically, the logical answer is that they have no idea what they are doing at this stage, and length of time isn't going to change it either way.
Here's the problem. It's been just over a month since the PSN debacle, and slightly longer since the fun was nerfed. Yes, I want a stable game, but I haven't played a match since April. It shouldn't take too much to make weapons fun to use. They can easily buff the damages of ARs, while leaving other things alone. The player count is dropping rapidly, there ain't going to be a playerbase next month at this rate. Like LLB said, they need to release chapters instead of the whole book. Right now we're just reading the title cover, and that's grown really boring.
They seriously need to do a mandatory: old school server maintenance to include shutting the server down so they can do so! That's my honest opinion. Then maybe just maybe they as in arrowhead can properly tackle issues during the server maintenance shut down. Ounce maintenance is finished then reinstate the server.
I believe this is what most games are having so much issues because they are just putting a bandaid on their game on the fly.
Server issues killed this game more than the nerfs. If every time I get the urge to play, the game crashes or disconnects me on my first mission of the day (I've even had it just put me right back on my SD after a mission loading screen LOL), then I'm not going to be in a hurry to try it again.
They did a great job making guns feel like shit really fast, now they're struggling to even revert some changes?
Dang...Should have just left it alone and let people have fun from the very beginning.
I agree - I don't know why they went so quick with nerfing things into oblivion, while leaving things like Spear and several other stratagems basically pointless. Then they did the patrol changes...I haven't played the game in a month. super sad
@@alexwood8692blame Alexus. All their balancing team devs are clowns.
@@alexwood8692apparently the lead balance guy was responsible for killing off Hello Neighbor 2 or something like that. So that would explain most of the unnecessary nerfs
@@SpinosaurusStudios_ at this point it's more than just Alexus. Twin beard Joel allowed it while he was CEO. The other people on the dev team didn't push back..The new CEO barely plays the game. AH needs to get their head out their backside
@@johnnybgoode8104 wtf...Joel never was the CEO, what are you on?
Game’s been more unstable than ever, almost every match I played with my bros, someone crashed or DC’d. My brother was the leader of the match and I DC’d from him maybe three times throughout our sessions, and I sit right there next to him in the same room on a separate PC. What the heck? Disconnected?
Last night was so shit and abysmal that the boys and me are gonna be looking to put the game down for a while.
We love this game so much, and put up with all of the BS choices of patches in stride. All of the nerfs we have adapted with, sometimes rather sourly.
Constantly crashing however, and disconnecting when previously having no issues is worse than the largest big Bertha Nerf dart to the crotch.
AH please get your shit together! Relist those damn countries, fire that fucker Alexus, and stabilize the dang game!
Dropping a nerf nuke every week but taking two months to fix the game and buff weapons makes it look like you want to kill your game!
Bungie in their golden era would play test the hell out of their current build at the end of the day. That’s what makes great games, seeing if it actually works before you release it. A concept being lost to time for devs
Playtest is an unknown concept to live service game.
Love how it's basic common sense as well, yet somehow even the TRAINED GAME DEVELOPERS can't fucking realise this apparently
And where is Bungie now?
didn't the devs try to play the game on live level 4, after the first wave of nerfs and busted issues that go with it, and it was just an embarrassment. The developers DO NOT play their own game.
I may take a break for the week im sick of the state of the primary pea shooters they have given us
i love the dark matter mission but god damn does it highlight how much we need some primary buff's, incendiary breaker is absolutely carrying that mission cos nothing else has the dmg and ammo capacity to keep up
Defo not true but ok.
Breaker works, Knight works, liberator concussive works, a good number work just different areas
As someone who plays Dark Fluid 7's, I use and have always used, the Blitzer.
Being able to shoot 1-3 bugs at the same time is awesome and it never runs out of ammo ever
*replies in arc 12 blitzer*
Yup yup. I've had some success with the Defender but when the shriekers come out the breaker incendiary is the only choice.
It doesnt make sense why we have such an important major order when the game is in this state. Seeing only 50,000 divers on meridia is so sad, when the creek a couple months ago had 300k. And people hate fighting the bots compared to the bugs. They really shouldve waited for the patch before advancing the war like this. Especially foreshadowing the illuminate so heavily. They lost majority of their playerbase, yet during that time they give us the biggest major order to date? Seems backwards imo. The whole game should be on pause until this patch cause as it stands its less than half as fun as it used to be. Less than 5 primaries are "good", support weapons are limited to what faction you're facing, operation modifers are terrible period. And now they say the patch wont even be that gamechanging. What are they doing to their game
It won't be that game changing???? That sucks if true
People keep buying live service games, expecting them to work ‘this time’.
It’s a bad business model. It’s bad for developers and their health, it’s bad for players and their wallets, and it’s bad for the industry because 99% of them will fail and drag their studio with them. Studios that were former powerhouses (so not all bad I guess).
They accidentally laid a golden egg and are now arguing about how to scramble it. They genuinely cannot NOT fuck with the game.
@@xv6701 after the sony link mess, the community band wagoned to negativity from positivity
Same thing they always do...f with game until it plays like they think it should based on THEIR skill level and THEIR idea of a good game...screw everyone else!
Not every support weapon _should_ be good against every faction, in every situation. Otherwise what's the point of having multiple support weapons when one universal weapon would do? Same with primaries. Different tools, different jobs.
While I do agree about the timing of the MO, they're kind of between a rock and a hard place. If they put the story "on pause" the community's bitching would be even worse than it is currently. Hell, this video talks about how the next patch should have a new mission type when we just got one! Not to mention that when the devs said, "Hey, we're slowing down so we can focus more on quality," and Litebeer's response was, "Well, we don't need the whole patch at once, you can just give us [describes most other games full monthly patch content] as an appetizer!" Really demonstrates Gamer entitlement at large.
People are constantly fighting for life/work balance and fair treatment for themselves. But then basically want AH to be run like those shitty companies and keep their staff overworked. Guess it's just as long as it's not the company _they_ work for.
The balance dev must be kicking and crying everytime they talk about reverting a balance change.
I have a theory that the reason why the devs are so dug in and set in their ways is because only they know how to use the helldivers 2 engine, higher management doesnt even have the option to find other devs since the engine has been long abandoned by now
how many times are they gonna end up apologizing and saying "we should have communicated this more from the start"
they shouldve given us a free 30% on meridia considering it messed up its tracking
+ The insane spawns... I've had to *ORDER/THREATEN* players as a host (Which made me feel like shit until the end of each clusterfuck of a mission) in order to get them all to use Rover Dogs to manage all the spawning small fries + all the Orbital drops for Titans + Chargers...
yeah I thought the same thing, I don't know why they didn't issue the revert, because they aren't adding anything, they are _reverting_ to an earlier build.
Remember, they've had the fix for the Spear for over a month now. The only reason we don't have it is because of logistics between Sony and Steam in delivering patches. Arrowhead wants everyone to get it at once. So splitting this big update across two patches could cause the same problems as the Spear. More chances for stuff gets delayed over logistics and approvals. If they have a big patch they are taking their time on, I'm all for it.
I guess I’ll continue not playing till they release the patch. I’m glad they are taking the time and care to release proper patches. Shame they learned that after fucking two warbonds in a row, making the mechs shit, ruining my ability to play single player at the higher difficulties, and completely making most of the primaries terrible. Sony may have damaged the reputation of the game but the devs were the ones to divide the community.
The current patch has the widest array of primaries I have seen, the patriot mech needs more ammo I do agree & not sure on the AC yet
@@honorguard7616 if they increased the ammo of the new mech, oddly enough, I think that would make the first mech completely redundant. Then yes there is a wide selection but most are beyond terrible. Put it simply the newest SMG is completely better compared to three assault rifles.
Seems pretty trivial when people stopped playing the game after 180 countries got banned even though they were allowed to buy the game 3 months prior.
The players did that to themselves. The only thing that AH did wrong was burn themselves out trying to pump out weekly patches. Burnout is to blame for the drop in patch quality.
@@thathandsomedevil0828 which Arrowhead had a hand in. To my recollection, that was the former CEO's fault since he suspended the requirement even though he knew months in advance that it was supposed to happen. He owned up to it but I would still say that the blame is equal to him as to sony.
HES ON DIFFICULTY 3 LMAO 10:00
If they are balancing the games weapons to difficulty 3 we are all in trouble.
That’s gonna look bad to the community. Nobody I know plays below 7 unless your super credit farming.
This highlights the actual problem difficulty 7-9 is meant to be masochism lower your fucking difficulties
@@therandomcommenter6629 i disagree, i feel like having 9 different difficulties is just ridiculous, that seems nore likely to be the issue, none of these devs are gunna playtest 9 difficulties like wtf
@@aquamayne8168 helldivers one had 15
dammit they could have at least rolled back the fuckups they created with their last patches. Revert the eruptor, revert the patrol spawn! They messed with things for no reason and now to talk about how they are going to be taking their time to send out the next patch isn't a good thing.
if they don't see it that why they not gonna fix it early, can't trust discord they ban anyone that suggest buffs of weapons and it full of raging fanbois. I said lest Tuesday they could given a mini patch to but little trust back in them but.....
@@black_ghost1215 they would only ban you on discord if you're an ass about it.
@@irondude71 the mods flat out just ban people they don't like, and they ban you for speaking out against the devs. So no, not just being ahole gets you banned
@@irondude71Stop lying, they even banned me for telling the mods about a troll copying one of their mods' name
@@gigahertz7352 *doubt
Sounds like they'll be moving from fixing virtually nothing every week to virtually nothing every two or three weeks now. Next patch will be a couple of obscure crash fixes most people weren't even aware there was a problem with. My gut feeling is they are going to give another set of excuses as to why the spear fix isn't ready and why the spawn patrol changes can't be done yet.
If that is the case all hope is lost
Yeah I remember my game crashing on me after it was "fixed" I just turned off my PS5 and said fuck this
Tried playing the dark fluid by myself on difficulty 1 and I couldn't extract, the moment I'd spawn back in after dying to the shreekers or the moment I tried calling in exfil I'd die
No team I've tried to play with has had any idea how to do the new mission correctly. I'm not even going to bother playing this weekend, what a nightmare.
Too many idiots bringing 120s and 380s. Precision, EMS, and Gas are best.
So maybe get on the mic and tell them
@@sweetmeatnc1504 doesn't do a whole lot of good when people don't listen.
@@Spectacular_InsanityEven with good loadouts, the mission is horrid
I’d had no problems playing exclusively with randoms suicide through Helldive on the new mission. Usually one person gets on the mic and gets everyone on the same page…if not I do. It’s more chaotic than actually difficult so you need to get some team work going
I suggest everyone just go get deep rock galactic thiers a new season dropping in a few days, plus the ability to play all past seasons you missed out on and deep rock doesn’t charge you for seasons you buy the game and thats it, only way arrowhead will realise we have had enough is if we stop playing again fact still can’t play with my friends who are region locked sucks iam done, iam playing deep rock galactic I suggest anyone who loves helldivers 2 to do the same it’s just as fun if not better
Rock and stone!
Yeah deep rock is like the King of how you do a pve game
I'm glad they fixed the spawn points, cause for you it may have been a few feet from the drill, for mre more than 80% of the time they would spawn ON the drill and the process of them exiting the bug hole did damage to the drill.
They should bring the resistance modifier down to account for us getting no stars every time we complete the mission, liberation percentage goes off of how much xp each player gets at the end of the match
I kinda figured things were behind. They are spread pretty thin I imagine at this point.
That excuse has left the building.
Maybe devtards should not make games if they cannot follow through.
This is supposed to be a live service game, so tell me, where is the service!?!?
These devtards are a joke.
This is the first week of June the next week is the second
I like how they rapid fired off shitty patch after shitty patch. And now that we need immediate changes they decide to halt everything. I haven't played in about 3 weeks, and the latest rounds of decisions have basically ended my hype for this game full stop. Im done and im really fucking sad about it. They fucked it up.
Same here, haven't played in a week and haven't missed it at all.
They should add more random events like the huge shrieker spawn to every missions end. The patroll increase gets a bit old. Why not something that destroys the map little by little to force you to extraction, or a bot mothership that starts raining airstrikes on the map. Or nothing to make it random.
I feel like before the changes to the spawns it was near impossible to do this with randoms with no voice coms which sadly is the only way some people can play
-5.5% means we are 55% away from the Dark Fluid cracking this planet wide open! Lets get those drills spinning and that fluid flowing until we see that -5.5% reach 0 and Meridia get swallowed from the inside by a black hole >:D
Yeah they gonna have to fix their "bugged ass" mission for that to happen first.
Let’s get it done
@@LazyEyePoliticsthey did though. The bug breeches dont appear on the drill anymore. Though theres still 2 main objectives with 1 only being completed
@LazyEyePolitics It was fixed. Which was covered in the video you're commenting on. So not only did you literally not even watch the content and go straight to comments, you also don't know anything about the game. You're typical of the dishonest, ignorant moaners who do nothing but complain about this game.
@@quirinaled2752 They fixed the bugs spawning on the drill, they didn't fix anything else with the broken ass mission, do you even comprehend bro?
If it's a good size patch with good fixes and buffs I can wait
5:57 I'm all for a challenge. I'm glad they changed the spawn zone because I started playing again yesterday and I had two Bile Titan's spawn just onto the Objective (:
It's the weekend and there's currently only 55,000 ppl online.
The broken Major Order on Meridia is less than 25% with 1.5 days to go.
lol. They killed the game.
Can we all push to allow unblocking??? Accidentally blocked my brother and its been weeks of just trying to get a game together unsuccessfully
I think you have to contact support to get that undone
nope fixing the infinite grenade patch or nerf some weapons takes president you know come on now lol 😉
Look up his friend code
Sweet Liberty...
I have learned that if you have a reticle setting in your monitor, you can reliably shoot the AMR in third person. It completely changed the AMR for me.
agreed, amr has insane handling compared to primaries and other support weapons.
I wasn't mad about the number of bugs and how rapid they came out, it was just how freaking close the holes popped up on the drill
Delaying a patch is fine.
However.
If it shows up with bugs or stupid balance choices, then these devs can go ahead and resign themselves to never being taken seriously ever again. Their excuse before was that they were pushing the patches out too fast to check or test anything. Well, now they don't have that.
Well, i mean of COURSE its going to bring some bugs. Every update in EVERY game comes with its bugs. Thats to be expected. But if the balance patch sucks, im uninstalling for sure.
I'm fine with new bugs, if they'll get rid of old bugs in the meantime. If they'll just throw in new content, myriad bugs in toe, and if god forbid they'll nerf bunch of shit next without fixing anything before that...
I'll laugh
Maybe I'm a minority I love the game I really do but I'm getting tired of waiting for this patch and also I really wanted to switch up my game play with the new assault rifle sadly as we know it was just a liberator reskin 😢 also yes I own every pass and brought all ship upgrades and such I can't even get anymore medals
nah most sensible players are playing other favorites until everything is fixed.
Man listen, I’m almost level 80, been having fun since the beginning of February, and I totally respect the devs for taking care of their health and making sure the next patch is gonna be in a better state than the last couple have been. I just reeeeeeeeeeally hope that this long gap in between patches doesn’t become common practice, it’s seriously nuts that it’s been almost two months since the last one, and there are quite a few things that should’ve been fixed faster :(
Looked like Johan might’ve been carrying his squad, everyone else was dead with no reinforcements
It's disappointing to me they won't just revert the weapon balance changes that made everyone quit, so many weapons are still glorified pillows with low ammo. Just reverting the weapon changes would probably bring a lot of people back to the game. To me it feels like they're hedging their bets on the people who are still playing tolerating their shitty weapons while they work on balancing things based on their current state, and not the versions people actually enjoyed using.
We are at a point most primary weapons have uses and reasons to bring
@@honorguard7616I agree
@@honorguard7616 balanced =/= fun
This is a noncompetitive pve game, get out of here with your "balance". The player count is still a fraction of what it was, and plenty of people have cited weapon nerfs as the reason they stopped playing. And to be clear, if you nerf a gun and then buff the enemies resistance to it: you nerfed that gun twice. They could revert every weapon change and the weapons would still be worse than they were on release because they've also made the enemies tougher. With all the dials they have behind the scenes, for enemies and scenarios, they nerfed the players instead, smh.
To be clear, this wouldn't be as egregious as it is if the head balance dev for hello neighbor wasn't in charge. He's directly attributed to nerfing every fun playstyle that developed in that pvp environment and now he's applying the same philosophy to a pve game. It's completely mentally deficient, and the communities reaction is all the evidence I need of it's failure.
This delay really makes me worry about how the community is going to react to the changes. It's going to be tragic if none of the stuff that made people quit actually gets fixed, and instead just gets changed to some other unfun state.
@@BouncingTribblesthey fired Spitz for being passionate but can’t fire the guy who ruined the game…
Expectations are really high. If they don't change enough people still won't comeback
nerf 5 guns every week, then wait a month before any meaningful buff... no wonder the player count is so shit
Every balance patch if I recall had a meaningful buff of some kind, most of the community has just become negatively inclined
@@honorguard7616 Name them.
@@frosty848 dominator, digilence series, flamer, GR-8 + EAT-17s (Indirectly), blitzer, and more
@@honorguard7616 Was not a fair trade. The buffs made some straight up unviable weapons viable, the nerfs made fun weapons not fun, which is the main issue.
@@Spaceboyy95 Breaker, slugger, sickle, redeemer, dominator, and such are all fun
Digilence, blitzer, flamer, dominator, breaker S&P, AMR, and so on are fun
So a lot of the nerfed stuff is still fun, a lot of the buffed stuff is fun, if you get trapped into a negative mindset like a large deal of the community things get less fun, you see all the negative more easily and focus on it more.
the last pic wasn't Johan that was Fluffy another Arrowhead veteran :D
So... They didn't fix the general spawn problem, just the major order one, and that patch is further ahead still... This is starting to feel like the "filler era" on naruto, and I don't know if I'll be able to survive that.
One easy W would be to increase fun by increasing all weapon damage by 25-30%
So then you could run through the entire missions with just your primary, and make stratagems useless?
@@JacobKelley-vw1pwbruh even a 30% damage increase wouldn't have close to that effect. Primaries will never kill chargers or BTs because of their armour, as is most primaries can't clear any decent group of light-medium bugs without struggling.
@@iateapinecone9053 The scorcher kills a charger from the back with about a clip already...30% would make it pretty insane, and that isn't even accurate i can easily get 400-700 kills a mission with some of the primaries depending on what the enemies are.
@@iateapinecone9053 So saying they can't clear light-medium enemies isn't accurate. I do agree that a lot of the weapons need a rework, and wouldn't hurt buffing some but they aren't mean to clear the whole map. Thats what your stratagems are for.
@@iateapinecone9053 I can think of a decent amount of weapons that could use a buff, which some happened last patch. I'm sure next patch they will buff the primaries that are under used by the majority of players
You should rename ur channel to " Helldivers 2 Broadcast only"
Spawn changes have worked. Completed a mission with little problems, but got no rewards because of an unknown secondary objective that I did not complete.
DAWG----Them DF jetpacks were the ONLY reason I kept going back to meridia--F'n LOVE IT!!!!
💪
Hard to believe a single thing they say when nearly every patch so far has been utter garbage.
Incorrect
@@honorguard7616🤓 🤓 🤓
@@honorguard7616Wrong
@@honorguard7616 He's 100% correct. You have been running some weird hard defense in these comments.
@@sultryjmac yeap
The MO won't get done. Look at the progression bar 🤣 It's an MO made to fail. Now Turing needs defending.
The devs are literally telling us to focus on meridian in game, all other territory losses are acceptable
Thank you Arrowhead for being transparent about the patch instead of "just let us cook".
I (personally) forgive you for the delay and understand.
Im perfectly ok with them actually taking their time to roll it out when it's ready. The pace they were going at was absolutely unsustainable.
At this point, I feel Arrowhead studio's creditability has been nearly depleted. There is no way they have not know the patch would not be out before June, but kept stringing along the community. Also they keep claiming "we need to do better / we need to communicate better / etc etc etc" and yet here we are again with another post claiming the exact same thing, AH does not learn or more like just does not care. Be mindful that it will wind up being nearly six weeks from the time AH announced they would 'revert' the patrol changes, to the time they actually bother to do so; hampering non-4 player game play and seriously frustrating most sole players. Yeah a studio that really cares about their player base....
Well i won't be playing until 2nd week of June, 7 days to die releases in July so i probably about done with this game the developers have screwed their own game up it was awesome when it released but its been declining with every patch and weapons nerfs we lose more divers its like they don't care
I just hope my fps doesn't get tanked even further when the patch arrives. Here's hoping they are giving some attention to optimization as well...
Despite this hot fix, the completion glitch still stands. Did a few dark fluid missions earlier today and still said one part of the mission was incomplete.
To any Helldivers that went to or are on Turing or Acamar 4, please stop trying to defend them and help us destroy Meridia. I repeat, we need as many units as we can on Meridia, Forget about Turing and Acamar 4, we can take them back later.
No thanks you schmucks can keep suffering, I want to actually enjoy my time when I play and that's definitely never going to happen on Meridia
All they need to do is put everything back the way it was while keeping the bug fixes in place. Then slowly rework and tune
That would be ideal, but Arrowhead is somehow worse at balancing than Blizzard.
@@Spectacular_Insanitymaybe its because half of the community are bitches that can't decide what they want to make the most op thing ever, and that also complain half the time over the smallest issue.
only for the nerfed weapons like the eruptor please, most other changes were alright imo
@@Spectacular_Insanity balance wise they have done for the most part pretty well, every patch has had more buffs than nerfs, of those nerfs most were small (Breaker as a example) and compared to earlier, the current patch has the widest array of weapon variety (main primary weapons I could see getting buffed are eruptor, tenderizer, and crossbow)
@yeetmaster3360 I just think if they put everything back to the way everything was it would bring more people back then would make people leave. The hard-core players wouldn't cry or quit half as hard as the casual full time worker player base did. Those guys are in it no matter what.
I have a theory on Meridia and the MO. We shouldn't actually have to liberate the planet as usual. Helldivers aren't there to kill all the bugs themselves, just leaving the demolitions behind. So I wonder about the liberation status bar, does it really matter?
most valid point ive seen anyone make in the comments
Thats what i thought was going on because there was no progression, it was just a solid orange bar. My theory is starting to learn towards that they may have intentionally wanted us to fail the mission because none of these patches or updates are ready for what comes after the planet is deleted. Its seems really shady to drop the hotfix 3 days after the order started but not give us any progression in return. Ive beaten the whole 3 missions at least 6 times on lvl 9 since dark matter mission dropped
I expected this. After the farce that is the new mission and bugged progress, and the current feeling in the community... there's a lot riding on the next patch.
My saddest news was they stole my second exosuit
This. If this wasn’t an indicator of someone being the fun police idk what will ring that bell for everyone.
The devs want to make double exosuits a thing, problem is it already takes plenty from the game to run just 1 exosuit per helldiver, if you had both the patriot and the emancipator the game wouldn't run well.
So the devs WANT you to have fun, but aren't able to let you have fun, don't worry though they are planning to fix this and making double exo possible.
@@Shiftydisconinja you can drop 8 mechs and the game runs fine
@@Shiftydisconinja And will probably nerf it's damage output and ammo capacity to the point of being useless
Remember everyone, Baconator wants to ban everyone that doesn't follow her politics. AH needs to fire that community manager.
Having worked crunch time at a game studio, I'm glad they're delaying the patch delivery, if pushing it back brings people's work days down to sane, have a life outside of work hours 🙏
That reference to Electric Callboy is simply amazing lol.
Beside this, I just hope they will also fix some other bug like the black screen on startup, trying to play it yesterday, but I couldn't at all because of this: 3 re-install with one pure re-install with all files removed, still got two files that are "failed to be found" with the file integrity validation. It's frustrating.
This studio is actually fucked. I'm certain they have been on shrooms and coke since the game came out
Actually, if anything, this is good news. I'd rather have patches that don't break half the game when they release.
Hey @LtBuzzLiteBeer, so I was relieved when the spawn vicinity was hotfixed! Because this was a problem on all difficulties.
This is on top of the mission's overall difficulty spike where the end of the mission is already an issue, because Shriekers (if you're NOT using the insane Incendiary Breaker), will stunlock everyone trying to get the pad tapped. This happening regardless of any pre-end preparation or bug-hole popping usually makes the suicide run less enjoyable. It isn't impossible, but often limits less "meta" players who are just looking to have fun with their particular weapons.
I think it was a smart move, because while we have hard-core divers, we don't want to drive away casual players either. The ones who put in a lot of work at the lower difficulties for Super Earth's benefit.
super happy with this patch, maybe some people like yourself enjoyed the gameplay loop of cycling ems strikes and stun grenades to keep the drill alive, and that is valid sure, but i was having so many issues with bug breaches spawning not feet but INCHES from the drill, and when titans or even chargers spawn, they destroy the drill immediately after spawning without any way to react. if the spawn rates are still the same, the mission should be just as difficult and require good planning and coordination, but allow for more options for players to use and find success.
also do not have an issue with them taking more time to roll out the patch, i'm enjoying the current balance and am seeing a ton of weapon variety from my teammates. lately i have basically been picking up whatever weapons my team is running and using that for the entire mission just to see what kind of gear other players are enjoying. happy to give them a little more time to cook up something great for us!
Half the community is gone thanks to the Sony debacle, a quarter of us will be waiting patiently for a brighter future, while the other quarter is kicking, screaming, and being downright unpleasant. They are selfish, impatient, and spoiled, and any of you who are bashing on the devs for making sure they are doing the job right should be ashamed of yourselves. This is a game that comes once in a lifetime, with passionate people working behind it, and you treat them like underpaid waiters/cooks at a fully packed restaurant. Don't bite the hands that feed you, neanderthals.
Edit: sorry for the negativity. Just tired of the other negativity. Good video!
Some people do not like paying for a product that gets changed for the worst, then to hear a bunch of crybabies excuses from devtards that are expected to fix the garbage they broke.
Just because you are an agreeable person that bends over and accepts anything does not mean others will not voice their distain.
But by all means, climb on up that moral horse of yours.
"Biting the hand that feeds" is a really strange choice of metaphor. This game cost money, its not a bread line. If this was the only video game that existed, then sure. But people paid money for a promised experience that no longer exists. Of course they are pissed. But for every loud angry person on the internet, there are a dozens of people who just quietly quit. It's weird to be on a sinking ship and get mad at the other passengers.
You're mindlessly glazing these guys after they messed up their own game.Now you don't want to hold them to any account and want to bash players that rightfully are speaking out. The only way people wouldn't have a right to complain, is if this was a free to play game. it's not. They made our product worse in a week, but need 8 weeks to fix it *IS BS*. We aren't entitled, you're being ridiculous. The declining player count shows you idea isn't the right one
"don't bite the hand that feeds you" You have it backwards. We feed them, not the other way around
@@johnnybgoode8104 wow! Who woulda thought that fixing something takes longer than breaking it! You graduate from Harvard with that logic? If you drop a lego on the floor, you think you can just snap your fingers and boom it's fixed? You break your leg and you cry about it, think it's gonna be better just cause you want it? Get some perspective, and a better way of looking at life, you'll thank yourself later
Alexus the dev in charge of balancing has killed the game
Night before last, I got a notification that meridia wasn't going as planned and we need to defend Heeth. However after looking around Heeth isn't in an active quadrant. It popped up after we failed the dark fluid mission the first time
I'm absolutely happy that they're slowing down and dedicating more time to patches. This new mission felt EXTREMELY rushed, almost like it was barely playtested. I would rather the stuff we have now work well than constantly be getting new stuff that is broken.
Two weeks is just stupid, you know the patch is going to be broken af too, it's just a lose lose.
Alot of people forget that getting patches approved on console takes longer then PC. So you have to time your updates around that. It's a thing all cross play games deal with.
Then why are you here? Why are you still playing? Crybabies.
Imagine being this much of an entitled baby.
I'll cry all I fucking want, I paid money and have paid them money for a working product that barely works half time, example the stupid new major order needed a hot fix. Just becuase you have no standards doesn't mean I don't, I'm not gonna simp and take it up the ass like you idiots.
Rather than one massive update, I’d rather them put out a patch for different sections of fixes needed. One week do weapons, another to the spawn rates, another do map updates.
The longer you have to wait for an update the higher the expectation. I’d much rather have something every other week, so that people can remain interested in the game
Oh dang. Scheduling the new patch up against DRG season 5 release on June 13th? I’m sorry to report that I’ll be busy on another planet killing other bugs.
They better reset the timer on that meridia mission. How are they gonna release a major order thats impossible to progress and then hot fix it 3 days later... really shows how shitty they are playtesting beforehand.
I think it's important people consider how this works from a technical side. I don't work in this industry, but I work in a similar one and I know just how hard it is to put together a bunch of changes and how more releases with fewer things in it MASSIVELY divides resources and makes for a significant amount of burnout and over-working.
It makes a lot more sense to do fewer, larger updates because each update requires a million different processes to be completed before it can go live and the more you have, the more this multiplies because every single update will require it. I can't speak to specifics for them, but I know with absolute certainty that fewer and larger releases is DEFINITELY a good thing, and will allow them to release more content overall by not wasting time doing these repetitive necessary processes just to push something smaller out faster, even if it might SOUND really easy to do some small stuff and drop it as a hot patch rather than putting a bunch of stuff all in at once.
This also releases some of the team to work on other things since not everyone will have tasks that take 100% of the time before the patch drops, meaning they can be working on the next one or working on the essential pre-patch preparation while the rest of the team works on larger projects that will be part of the patch and it'll make time much more efficient and reduce everybody's workload while increasing productivity overall.
Please, this is definitely a good thing and I fully support the idea of going bigger but slower.
The game is still fun now, otherwise we wouldn't care as much as we do. I know we're all excited for what will drop, but it's definitely better for it to be fully baked and have all the content rather than splitting it in two and dropping the heavier stuff later as the workload will increase significantly and both patches would end up lackluster due to the added stuff they likely hate.
For clarity, I work in hardware rather than software but I have friends in the software/firmware side and we have surprisingly similar mandatory processes before patch/tapeout can be achieved.
I'm reaching the point with their stupidity that I might have to block all news. They literally could have just reverted to the release version and people would be happier then they are now. I hate the sunk cost fallacy of devs, your solution was horrible, just remove everything you've changed since and throw all that work away. It would be the right choice. Then figure out how to add factory striders and the other good changes back in.
Game is in a fairly decent spot on balance
@@honorguard7616I agree
@@honorguard7616 "balance" compared to what?
@@frosty848 prior to first balance patch where it was breaker, bubble and railgun fr a large deal of the community
I managed to "complete" 1 mission yesterday at Impossible difficulty. Just one... and it failed because it was bugged. Thank god I had the Incendiary breaker with me, or those bats would have thorn us a new one!
I haven't played in a bout a week. Combination of everything going on with Helldivers 2 problem wise.
In my opinion we need public test servers to test patches on a large scale. Every patch breaks the game, so even if they drop a banger patch what's the point if it's broken the game. I'm going to wait to play, hope the Major Order is fun.
I respect the developers, if I'm being honest, their transparency and will to improve is more than enough for me to invest more time and money into the game. Them slowing down updates is completely understandable for me, though I could see why it might not be the case for many people.
Though I still have 1 more issue, they NEED to revoke the regional bullshit (It's more of a Sony and Valve thing, but it's worth mentioning) because every time I boot up a game a piece of my soul dies knowing that there are thousands of people that are just waiting for Sony and Valve to fix this.
If the patch has been delayed, then I consider that a good thing. I much rather give it more time to cook than have it come out uncooked and having the community feel disappointed again
So, they didnt add any precentage to our progress due to the fact it hasn't done sh it since it started due to their bug they didn't catch. starting to think they are actively trying to kill this game.
I say no on dark fluid mission. If they didn't know about the bug, they didn't know the meta