Atheist Podcaster: Jesus 'Cult Leader'; God a 'Monster' - IF They Existed (Ep. 3 | S. 6)
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What is it that causes young men and women to leave Christianity in favor of atheism? In this interview, TheFallenState TV host Jesse Lee Peterson sits down with atheist and "Dogma Debate" podcast host David Smalley. They tackle everything from religion, to the 2016 presidential election, race in America, abortion, marriage & family, morality, love, manhood and much more. David also explains why, after being a devoted evangelical Christian in the music ministry, he came to view the God of the Bible in a negative light and ultimately became an atheist.
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*Jesse himself appears*
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Amazin
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The absolute chad, he don't need sponsor, he can sponsor himself
"Give me a yes or no cuz I'm black and slow"
He needs to do stand up I swear.
Just to trigger people.
Barz🔥
I would ask him; How did you become "black & slow"?
Nah. He's black and shady
" prove to me where he said that "
quotes 3 bible versus*
" okay moving on "
@Meme Patrol, it’s ironic though bc we can take scripture and twist it to look like whatever we want it to look like. For example him quoting about God saying to kill all the Amalekites in 1 Samuel, If you read that whole story you later see why God commanded them to do it. Ironically king Saul didn’t do it and ended up paying for it by the Amalekites own hands. See God knows things man doesn’t, which is why he’s God and we are not. The problem comes when we try to take His place.
@@ChrisKam1kaze want some more koolaid? Next thing you know you will defend king james bullshit. Sounds good on paper but dont act like you live by the old testament by any means
@@@enasagu4362 not at all my friend. Trust me when I say I have MANY faults and failures. The only question that really matters is what is true? And if the Bible is really true, then we should conform to it, regardless of what we think we know about morality, right and wrong, or anything else. And the Bible speaks to this too. Proverbs 14:12 says 'there's a way that seems right to a man, its end is death.'. In other words, when we start to rebel against God and begin to think we know more instead of fully trusting in Him, we fall away, which is the worst thing that could happen to us. Trust me man, I fall away too, I fail too, I stumble and struggle too! But He ALWAYS brings me back and I'm truly grateful for that, because I honestly don't deserve anything good. Man really is evil, and our problem is we honestly believe we're pretty much 'good'. God alone is good, that's what Jesus said. So if He really is good, what does that say about us when we act like we're more 'moral' than he is? Hopefully that makes sense.
@@ChrisKam1kaze i get you but lets not forget "lucifer" originated in heaven. So if "God" is perfect? That means heaven wasnt and he slept on satan. Also wouldnt that be original sin? Not adam and eve?? God threw out licifer from heaven to earth and gave him a domain instead of killing him. He instead creates man in his image to roam the earth while knowing temptation will kick in? So where does evil really come from? Who says "bow down to me or burn for eternity" but I love you unconditionally because you are my child? Why doesnt God just kill satan and the demons and just end it all? I guess he likes toying with us since hes bored up there
@Randy Bobandy who changed the rules? God or Man? Maybe they just figured out they were justifying bad behaviour but evolved. I bet jews, christians of kind etc. From hundreds to thousands of years ago feel we live unholy. You speak for the now but even evangelicals change their rhetoric to keep the church full and not loose members. You got that Gay pastor and all that. All I am saying is that God is real but religion and the bible is a business. Fear tacticts and pay your way to heaven. Give all good things credit to God but everything "evil" is the devil. I guess its parents sin why kids without true sin die young
“ A wise mane can play a fool, but a fool can never play wise”
Ima fool who can act like wise man
@@deemoneycashletsdebate432 And you delude only yourself :P
Ain't no fixing stupid!!!
and a mane can neither be wise or a fool because it's just hair
@@Mhats 🤣🤣
Despite wether who you agree with, this conversation was productive. No need to shout or call each other names. More like these is what we need.
Not understand why you saying ( I'm black and slow )
@@AlwayscomefromloveIt's a bot.
@@JustJeph33It's a bot.
I've noticed that Jesse Lee Peterson can't argue or make a good rebuttal, he will immediately change and ask another question. But if he thinks he can, then he will focus on it constantly.
wthgoku91 he’s not there to debate.
@Free Spirit *So, you cannot be argued with. Got it.*
Or ask the same fucken question a million times until he gets the answer he wants to hear...
because he's a reporter, asking questions
@@NixonRexzile-xz4sq because he's a moron,a reporter give me a break
He boiled Jessie down to what he really is..... A Talking head .
Smack Fire - You watching the same show as me? That guy is EVIL.
This guy is vain as can be in his own thinking.
@@samjones4451 Yeah - Jesse's guest is quite vain.
@@chrispile3878 I am atheist and I like Jessie. But he lost this debate. Saying that you don't let make abortion even if child will be suffering and mother too? THIS IS EVIL. But David lost in "racist" part. I think here is his left ideology like religion in Jessie case.
You do not understand the stile of JLP and you just stumble upon this video .
I received a tract once by someone I didn’t know. I was headed to a mental hospital. 3 day’s later I went into my bedroom and asked Jesus if he was real. Asked to forgive my sins. Believed he shed his blood on a cross for me. In the corner of my ceiling a huge ball of light came into the bedroom. It came over me. I left a new creature in Christ. Pure love and peace came into me. I wanted a Bible. I started going to church. My Savior saved me from hell and myself that day. In 1975. Hallelujah Jesus! Pure love I felt that day ! ❤️
What is a tract?
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied a pamphlet
What church do u go to
You are a fucking lier, and l make no apology!!
Hallelujah! Glory be to God. Continue your walk with Jesus. I will meet you there when he returns.
I watch Jesse not cause he is ignorant but because he is..."Amazing!" 😂
Yes i agree
The loaded questions asked over and over again.... fucking painful... amazing.. lucky “god” made breathing a natural function
Me too 😂😂😂ignorant as fuck. Ignorance = entertainment
@@KhaziJKG you sound dumb as hell
Jessie is smart
"I literally don´t know why they graduated me" - You and me both Jesse, you and me both! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pitiful
That explains everything!!
U act like u got a successful podcast, church, and strong relationships. If u did no one cares. Except ur mom.
Hes successful as fuck, And you're a no body lmao but okay
@@romannn ignorance get you successful that's why
Could you imagine Christopher Hitchens having this discussion with Jesse? IT would be brutal.
Yep, Hitchens would get mind raped.
@@JacobMcDaid Not a chance.
It will be too many hitchslaps
You are listening to a fool? @Dancing Diva
Jesse wouldnt be able to follow a single word
"You're playing God that you don't believe in."
That was the moment right there.
No it wasn't. Implying your belief in a fictional deity does not make it true. That's his interpretation of what God does. That's it. Nothing more.
@@jnobi77 good thing we don't need to imply anything. God is absolutely real.
@@kevincomstock9338 Prove it... Not with the bible or your feelings.
@@kimreese8166 you are the proof.
@@kevincomstock9338 Thank you ❤️
"Woccum to the show"
Ah-may-zin
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😂You’re mean
Lol 😆
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His line of questioning is to Instil conviction with their answers and the guests feel uncomfortable with their own pov
More like Jesse is a fool who doesn’t know anything
This is a very good way to phrase it man, I know a lot of the guests don’t actually believe what they say when they beat around the bush
cause not everything can be answered by a yes and no answer. He always goes with the false dichotomy. Some things need further explanation. If he asks "Do you hate black people" and you answer, "I hate some black people", he's just going to repeat the question only accepting yes or no answers. It's not about instillig conviction, it's about putting words in people's mouths.
Jesse is just arrogant and ignorant. He needs to be humbled.
@@Strings-jg2to Jesse would ask for examples
When a grumpy lady slams the door in your face and it forces you to go into a 14 year journey you know you’re a BEY-TUH MALE!
lol word up!
Wow....surely you aren't really this dense.
@@snoopyco07 bitch I'm so dense my balls drown me when I sit on the toilet
@@KingBr33ch 🤦🏽
@@KingBr33ch do you think you
are a women?
For historical context it was the Amalekites that violently *ATTACKED THE JEWS* as they fled slavery from Egypt, which included killing women and children who had been walking miles through the desert. This was the reason a violent counter-attack was sanctioned. Many ancient tribes were also not VERY POPULATED as they are today. This was the only incident, outside of the tribes of Nephilim, that humans were destroyed. The other tribes like the Amorites had Nephilim within their tribes. Nephilim were mixtures of humans and angels. These so-called genocides were carried out for specific reasons.
Is this an adult swim t.v show?
not "adult", it's the very stupid people show.
"You've Really Caught Me With This One, Im Trapped Im A Man && I Dont Know Why"
Are You Serious"
"No Im Not Serious"
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It’s frustrating when an interviewer isn’t listening to the answers of the interviewee.
You could be right, but I think he is listening, he just doesn’t understand even mildly complex arguments. He constantly seems entirely confused by every single answer.
Agreed. He's just waiting for his chance to ask another of his ridiculous 'gotcha' questions.
He can't understand an answer for nuanced then yes or no he doesn't even understand indifference
The socratic methode looks unknown to you
It's hard to focus when the interviewee contradicts himself in every sentence and does not believe in the truth of logic
This is by far my favorite guest I've ever seen on the show. He's chill, respectful, intelligent, has great insight, sensible. I can relate a lot to his religious journey.
Especially if your an atheist
A atheist becomes a believer 5 seconds to late when they wake up in the next life in HELL. I beg you please, please, please don't take that chance!
His points are wrong though because he was taught the bible incorrectly
@Dorkster81 The Bible isn't truth anyway so it doesn't really matter.
I would like to see Jese Lee with Matt Dillahunty...
It would be like Einstein debating a dog turd, only Jesse is not as smart as a dog turd
I like watching Matt and Aron I would love to watch either of them talk with this guy.
Also it would be great if Anthony Magnabasco was able to do some street epistemology on this cat.
ruclips.net/video/Y77n--Af1qo/видео.html
That’s like a mouse vs a lion
Jesse: "So you married a woman that was already pregnant with someone else's baby?"
"Because the biological father was in prison...and because I love her"
Jesse: Chuckles
"Why not?"
Jesse: "That's amazing!"
The bible talks about dark watchers or shadow people and I've seen one with my own eyes. If it wasn't for that sobering experience I probably would be on the fence like this guy. It's the one time im actually thankful I saw true darkness revealed because I'm a Christian now. As far as suffering goes it also brought me closer to God.
I saw them too but obviously nobody believed me. That's how I figured out the truth.
These “shadow people” didn’t happen to be following you did they?
@zawadiuk The ones I have seen have inhabited peoples bodies. They have a vicious arrogant demeanor, unbelievably hating. They will try to scare you through tactics such as movement, getting in your way and whistling
Lol what was the shadow person wearing?
@zawadiuk the shadow people are demons the offspring of fallen angels when the evil giants where destroyed their spirits remained and more have been produced over the millenia through sex with sleeping people just as the original Sons of God had layed with the daughters of men and became fallen angels.they not being able to produce the seed which is a gift from God and should not be taken lightly it is the seed of life . I was visited by both and wide awake and I don't do drugs but for my experience the fallen angel wants to possess believers and this is their ultimate goal when they inhabit a human body they are not easily recognizable just as the bible says "let your brotherly love continue and be not forgetful of entertaining strangers for you might be entertaining angels unaware " I beleive this also takes place with fallen angels that catch a believer who has let down their spiritual armor . They are way more powerful and intelligent they haven't been sentenced yet so they inhabit the earths sky's and ground and are referred to as aliens in today's society the shadow people or demons simply want your seed for more offspring and if you have a sex dream that is a forsure sign of a visit prayer before sleep and clearing your head of impure thoughts is the answer to not have an encounter if you see them fallen angel or demon call upon the name of the lord Jesus Christ . When used not in vain but with reverence, they both flee.
I love the Bible. I read it for myself all the time and it’s wonderful. I don’t have a church I just love Jesus and his word.
Are you still taking the bible literal?😂😂😂😂
ALL, of the Bible?
Really? Where in your Bible does it say, 'you don't have a church'?
@@JustJeph33 this person meant they don't have a church like a church that they go to personally going to church won't get you into heaven but it is good to go 👍
@@bagsecured1267 right on! In fact I've been invited to church for Christmas eve 👍🌲
Its nice to see metally challenged people have steady jobs :)
TFfan75 metally???
That's just religion
Corey J I’ve seen many appearances of JLP, and he has literally never said anything indicating intelligence or wit. His inclination to yell BETA and call Trump ‘the great white hope’ speaks to just how incredibly idiotic he is.
Yeah, so whats the deal in the black comunity? Its almost like they dont have any disadvantage at all, and are stuck on welfare because they dont belive in their own skills. Its almost like black people... Choose to be unemployed most of the time? And hey this seems to fit with hispanic people on average too... And most feminist women... Hey wait a minute!
I wouldn't necessarily call it disrespectful to call attention to his slowness. He is obviously unwise, but that doesn't have anything to do with a disability per se. He is, quite simply, a close-minded, self-righteous creep that spouts talking points of love and acceptance yet shows the exact opposite to anyone that does not fit his narrow mindset. He is also one of the worst hosts I've ever seen. There really is no point in even having guests on. Every show he rolls out the same stupid loaded questions that are supposed to be answered with a yes or no. Depending on the answer, the comatose viewers are supposed to judge guest as either OK or completely sinful and immoral. People don't watch these shows to be educated and think 'free thought,' they watch to confirm their particular biases and condemn those who don't share them.
I really love enjoyed this video. I was an atheist for the longest time in a Christian home, and when I started to study The Bible to debate it was to debate a Christian named Alex. The more I started looking at the history, Jewish prophesies, artifacts, tablets and witnesses in The Bible -- the more I found evidence for it. I realized as an atheist I completely didn't not understand the whole point of why women must be silent in church (this referred to pagana that were not taught in the faith). Why should women marry their rapist ( because in Jewish traditions if a women was no longer a virgin she was shunned by society, could not work, and could not be educated). I realized The God of The Bible was actually (not religious at all). I found out the majority of slaves back then volunteered to be slaves due to debts they owed, were fed, and some even inherited wealth many fail to understand you went to prison, was killed or became a slave those were the only options back then to pay a debt owed). The slavery of those days were not based on race either. The more I read The Bible, the more I realized how anti - Jesus the world really was especially my (professors). I appreciate you bringing someone on that has opposing because it comes from a very sincere place, allows perspectives to be exchanged. Thanks!
Are you still an atheist
@@alertdlangamandla8985 don’t think he is. God Bless him!
Smdh you are so wrong
The slavery laws god made in the bible were based off of racism. The qualification was that if you were not a jew you could be bought and sold and kept "forever" because they are your property/possession and you could even hand them down to your children as an inheritance...
But if you were a jew slave you would eventually be freed as long as you didn't marry another slave.
Leviticus 25:42 For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen. note
43 Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour; but shalt fear thy God.
44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever:
Broken record. Ask the same question over and over again with everyone. Silly
Yes moron
But you watched lol
This guy is awesome to listen to because he has tapped into the seeker side of him. Little does he know though that he is still searching for God. Find the Truth , find God.
Actually it's the total opposite he's able to think deeper because he's not stunted by a man made god
@@Doggfather4343 Exactly 👍
I could just as easily say, little do you know
You are hoping God doesn't exist.
@@timmothyeller5376 I just don't understand why people get so frustrated at a person who they believe doesn't exist. That's like beating the air. So what they have heard about God. It seems pretty arrogant of them to assume that they have heard or experienced the only version of God. I get where he and others are coming from when I hear the version of God they share. I too use to be part of that cult in a major way. But I knew inside me and logically it made no sense. If there is on thing about truth is that it always makes sense. It is the only thing that can make sense of confusion. So I had enough sense to know what I heard most of my life concerning God was nonsense
I could not attribute that to God but to the scholars, preachers and teachers etc. I get where he is coming from honestly. I myself could not give up on seeking the Truth and not be frustrated over the lies we were both taught. I couldn't blame God.
@ladyj7085 you assume that I haven't.
It's that I never thought to blame God. Just my teachers.
When my father left, I was devastated.
It’s a spiritual trauma I still suffer from.
This is what happens when you read the Bible only in today's context/understanding. Its one thing to read the Bible. It's another thing to understand it. I could read a manual or book on any subject, but if I don't understand the context or the vocabulary used, it will be difficult to use that information to succeed.
Also important to look up the original languages the Bible was written in
The point is that everyone interprets it differently.
@@thepossessor I might agree with you. My next question is how many people can actually do that? IMO the church as an organization has always used manipulation of some kind to gain membership. Fear, charity, and political power are the tools used to promulgate orthodox Christianity.
I thought it was the "living word"? As I understand it pertains to life in anytime. No?
@@elindioedwards1048 we can all do that, there's this fancy thing called the internet! And yes I understand what you're saying, you're referring to organized religion, what I'm saying is study the Bible for yourself
Before I even watch this. I agree 100%... If you are a believer in a Holy Book, especially the Bible. Read it in its entirety. That’s what unlocked the truth for me. Most people believe a book they’ve never even read themselves.
Right, I always hear about people believing in evolution but have never read the book that covers evolution. They just believe in it anyway.
The bible is the claim not the proof
@@XxHaseo93 What makes you believe the claim you just made is fact?
@@solofourohsixgaming cuz everything in the bible are man-made stories that literally contradicts each other in so many ways. Nothing in the bible can be proven to be real.
You dont need to read the whole Bible to be a believer.
I vote to make a Boondocks character based on Pastor Jesse.
Uncle Ruckus
@@ZENDEL-xs2lj ik what your comment was before I seen it 🤡
I had the pleasure of being a guest on David’s show recently (as a Christian). I think Jesse got to the heart of why he’s an atheist...his relationship w/ his dad. Great interview guys, I really enjoyed watching.
BMore not even sure why you’re coming at me like that but 1st of all what evidence did David provide that Jesse ignored? Certainly Jesse jumped to other questions, and as I said before, I think he did a good job getting to the core issue w/ David. You’re all caught up in winning and losing debates, but true Christians are trying to show ppl like you the truth of God. And you can hide behind ‘no evidence’ if you’d like, but the Bible is incredible evidence that you’ll just say “isn’t evidence”, even though the facts of the Bible are absolutely astounding.
BMore my friend, I’m guessing you’re trusting in atheists who either mislead or are ignorant themselves to the evidence that backs the Bible up. To make a claim that the major Bible characters are simply ‘not real’, you’d have to prove your claims pretty substantially.
Here are some major archaeological finds proving the Bible to be true...
answersingenesis.org/archaeology/does-archaeology-support-the-bible/
Some interesting points that you seem to be overlooking though:
1. If these men were just trying to craft some story of a Savior, they wouldn’t have said He died on a criminals cross, which was reserved for only the most corrupt criminals. Logically that doesn’t make sense.
2. People are willing to believe in Plato and Socrates, but they have FAR less evidence to back up their existence than that of the Bible...why do you think that is?
3. The Bible is a collection of 66 books, written by over 40 authors, by different people (doctors, peasants, Kong’s, philosophers, etc) during different times (war, peace, famine, plenty) on 3 separate continents, in 3 different languages all w/ ONE singular storyline...all pointing to Jesus Christ. Now if it was about anything other than that we’d except it w/o a problem...and it’s bc quite frankly people hate God.
@@ChrisKam1kaze lol, yeah. Funny how lots of ancient civilisations around the world never noticed the 'worldwide' flood.
@@ChrisKam1kaze1. That adds to the intensity of the story... so of course they would. 2. There are people that think the world is flat, too. If there is no evidence for Plato/Socrates, it is the same reaching as it would be for a god. 3. It's been edited a bunch of times too by individuals. You can edit to make stories follow the same general theme.
No that's just Jesse's trade mark to every single thing.
This interviewer is a joke this man has done nothing about answer his questions in legit been honest about all
The atheist has much more poignant answers. He's also seems much less self righteous than Jesse. I agree with Jesse on alot. Just wish he was more loving to people. I could be wrong it's just what came to mind
Jesse Peterson: "I'm black and slow." Lead poisoning is a terrible thing.
I really wish he would stop using that quote as if being black means your slow!!!!!
Self hating black man
Antonio Lopez
Saying you are “black and slow” isn’t exactly self-loving. One must love oneself, so you can love others.
Hahahaha bizarre. I'm no saint. These fools
@Dancing Diva I was trying to find a generous interpretation for his contemptuous attitude / mentality of proudly arrogant ignorance. It is so hard to look away from a train wreck. Sad.
Man I can seriously relate to this guy on some parts. Thanks for sharing this.
Same
This man is an example of what happens when you have no faith and try to come to GOD through his own knowledge.
So sad. Pray for him.
Read Hebrews 4:2
friend you mean cast a spell.
@@friend8116 Read "Harry Potter". Doesn't make it true, does it?
The fact that you actually started the show like that is amazing.
The fact that he is still doing that show with this many viewers is amazing. I mean, christian or not, the guy is a nutjob. Always trying to trip someone over their words to "win" a discussion. Proves that christians like him really have no arguments to come with.
@@jokebyLASSE So then explain, why are they so insecure that they cannot simply answer “yes” or “no” to a simple question? Jessie is not trying to win anything, in fact he loves his fallen guests so much that he’s trying to bring them closer to the light.
@@ooooa9046jesse doesn’t love anyone or anything but the money he makes from grifting.
An atheist correcting a slow believer on scripture.
Nah.
No he didn't.
This is the first time I've seen Jesse completely and hopelessly outgunned by a guest.
Beta!
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How so? This man is completely confused about the bible. He had no good points.
This guy is a moron and a liar.
@JCLADOG Basic truth doesn't require a "fast" mind to be understood. What's sad isn't the fact that a "slow" man can grasp basic truth... what's sad is how many self proclaimed "smart and articulate" people cannot grasp the truth this "slow" man seems to be able to understand effortlessly...
9:30 "do you believe there's a god ?" "I don't believe blablablah..." - " but do you believe there is a god ??" - "I thought we just went over this..." - "no but I'm slow, do you believe there is a god ?" - "I do not believe there is a god." - "Oh, okay".
Lol. He said that there is not enough EVIDENCE to believe in his opinion. Not the same thing. Also jesse is a woman hating incel.
“Because I’m black and slow.” Jesse is a sad man.
You would say that
Jason Wren would? Actually, he did say it.
@truth teller I ain’t ever heard that saying before
Jesse . In order to learn you need to be open to listen. The problem with you is you are assuming you’re always right . Amazing !
You people are so easily distracted and fooled. This guy has no morals. He truly does not know anymore what good or bad is. You people don't see it. Jesse does. He knows exactly what he's doing also in his questioning/ interviewing.
People should start truly listening to him. Instead of the other way around. He has so much wisdom and tries to make it simple. He wants to bring them back to God.
Hard not to assume that when he is. Amazin
You really don't know about Jesse lol...AMAZIN!
*I'm not an Atheist but I love this guy!*
Sorry, dude. He's already married..to a woman.
@Kruimeltjelief yeah he cites several verses of Jesus inferring he’s god & interprets it as Jesus saying he’s not God so the conclusion he’s come to is a little dodgy
Ladies and gentlemen don't believe this man Jesus is good he's The Rose of Sharon don't believe this man that speaking to mr. Peterson he is messed up totally
Do you love his athiest beliefs as well?
He said “I don’t like God because he doesn’t exist “ 😂
I cant stand nothing
I don’t like Kylo Ren, Rey Skywalker, Finn, or Poe Dameron......and yet none of them exist.......😂😅
Roc Star Studio in what way?
Roc Star Studio He looks white to me
@@OdintheGermanShepherd they do.
THIS IS COMEDY AT ITS PUREST FORM JESSE IS HILARIOUS! IT AMAZING (JESSE VOICE)
Lol
mexx x shout out from Cali you are legit and very smart your comment made me laugh anyhow if you're in the California area or you want to take a vacation this is legit hit me up we could just hang out and smoke bomb Kush all day until
18:15 he says he became an atheist because his mom let him think for himself... but thinking for myself was what made me a Christian.
Why did you become Christian?
You shall be set free when you seized to believe there's a god
I grew up a believer; even studied and prepared myself to be an evangelist. It was only until I began to take my faith seriously enough to die for it, that I began to study my Bible and could no longer rationalize the primitive logic therein.
@@162playboyz You might one day be free when you get a better grasp on the English language.
@@TheFirstAtom Because you question the historical accuracy of a book,it's quite possible things are incorrect in it,you don't believe we could have a creator and we all have a life or some type of consciousness after this one? Is that what you're saying? All this,from the universe our planet resides in perfectly in relation the sun,the incredibly complex machine our body is(and the amazing way we can make brand new ones)to the way all other life is perfectly balanced here on earth? You really aren't going to say all this happened because of giant fart in space is the story that makes more sense,right?
I really enjoy this dude - I don’t agree with everything- but he is a calm decent talker
So u think it’s a god who’s been pose to come for 400 years now let my people get killed tortured hunged and now today we’re shot an killed by one another even police the system is evil as ever but il u don’t know anything because you’re to loss into the media reading what the media gave us which is a Bible that was only wrote 400 years ago don’t believe me just research this simple logic knowledge dumbasses an yes I wanna call you names because this information been out go look up the damn information how you agree with a god that allows all this killing but is loving and don’t want us to commit sins that his son “died” for but will send us to hell for anything we commit and and he loves us right and forgiving but still gon send us to be tortured 😂😂😂 an burned forever wake up people look up kemet Egypt and you will see the truth and study about it learn.
No Cap Ent We have free will, you’re really going to blame God for every bad thing you, or anyone else has ever done? If you murder someone, do the police send you to jail or did you send yourself with your actions? You sin, you go to hell.
But there’s a ticket out of hell freely available to anyone, it simply requires faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ.
The standard for heaven is absolute perfection, no one meet that criteria. We are all sinners, which is why Christ died for us, taking the punishment we deserve so we can be justified before a Holy God. God doesn’t want anyone to go to hell, which was essentially the mission of Jesus Christ. It was like a legal transaction that occurred. Jesus said he would give his life a Ransom for many. It’s literally like you’re in court before the judge, guilty on all counts, and Jesus walks in and is like, don’t worry, I’ll do the time for you. You don’t deserve to walk free, but you can if you want to.
How would you prefer God? He is just to punish evil, but he is merciful and forgiving. Would you want evil to go unpunished? Would you rather no forgiveness and literally every single person ever goes to hell by default? That would be an Evil god....
@@dansilberstein326
I would rather have the evil in people erased, and God take an active PERSONAL role in guiding people instead of letting just His word be the main guide.
@@dansilberstein326 Uh oh...here comes the FREEWILL defense. I think I will go and throw up now!
IamVickie you are *free* to do so, lol.
The fallen state, the risen troll. lol amazin
Das AhMazin
I loved this interview.
"You caught me in this one. I am trapped. I'm a man, and I have no idea why."
"Are you serious?"
"NO I'm not serious!" 😂🤣
@@amyill9280 he was 😂
So basically Jesse has no problem seeing a child suffer.
So if God ends suffering it'd bad but man it's okOK? Make it make sense
The point is not to play God because we can’t wield that responsibility wisely. That leads down the road of medical assisted suicide and other societal degradation. You need to use your head more.
But you rather kill it? So thoughtful of u lol
I felt the same way when I got baptized in 2012, I joined a team and don't know what the team was about oh, such a powerful statement.
Marvin Bienaime Same. I realized later on that nothing changed from that, it’s just a physical representation of your sins being washed away. But the actual act itself doesn’t do anything. Real baptism is spiritual, God cleanses your heart not man!
And now?
@@TheSavageGent its an acknowledgement infront of everyone u give ur life to Jesus! Shows ur not ashamed of ur creator.
Consider baptism as a symbolic representation of your decision to follow Christ, much like getting married. However, if you do not follow Christ or believe in his teachings, I do not recommend getting baptized. Simply participating in the tradition of baptism will not save you. To be saved, you must accept Christ and turn away from your sins. If you are unsure of what that entails, then you have not been saved. This is a common misconception, even among those who identify as Christians.
To elaborate further, it is not enough to merely understand the words of the Bible; you must wholeheartedly believe them to be true. It must be the truth, and any opposing views are not the truth. Ultimately, for those seeking the truth, it will lead to Christ, regardless of where they begin. I have witnessed this phenomenon countless times in individuals searching for answers. This searching doesn't happen over night either. Some people will spend half their life seeking truth, and in the end they will find Christ on the cross.
In summary, do not get baptized if you do not truly believe or comprehend its significance. Doing so would be a waste of everyone's time, including your own. To become a believer, one must first acquire knowledge of God through diligent study.
Side Note: The atheist featured in the video clearly lacks the necessary knowledge and understanding of scripture. Those of us who believe in God and have studied diligently can easily identify the flaws in his arguments. It is clear that he does not comprehend exegesis or hermeneutics. Now, some may argue that one needs to be a genius to understand the Bible, but that is not true. However, it does require dedicated study.
As the scripture says, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children."
Marshmallows is a helluva drug. Funny to see JLP always getting easy shots, but when the target is harder, he is only able to go to another subject. Amazing.
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The guy being interviewed is a well informed man
Nah.
I'll give him this much, he's well up to date with his beliefs. I disagree with him, but I respect it.
Niko Bellic well Jesse the stooge has a RUclips channel with tons of fans and ur here doing what?
Niko is clearly the peasant stooge looking up at Jesse
This white guy is politically correct that is the extent of it
Niko Bellic *you’re*
Informed by what?
This dude claims to have been a Christian sounds more like a Jehovah’s Witness
He’d say “Jehovah” or “Yahweh” (usually) instead of “Our Lord Jesus Christ” if he was a JW. I have a JW great grandma so that’s how I know.
Not that much difference from outside tbh.
LOL I am loving these comments against David Smalley !!!!
*No* one as said "David Smalley is wrong and here are demonstrable reasons why...." They're either insults or the person confirming their believe in God.
Username well, that's what people tend to do when they get steamrolled with reason!
rebuttals are there
konic40
Ok cut and paste them into the thread.
Username fuck u, u dont order me. scroll down and read replies urself or do u not WANT to see them
I'm not ordering you. I'm asking you to back up your claim. Either you can or you were lying.
Anything that explains and they start a word of “I Fell”...”it don’t feel right” ...”feels good”...it all based on emotions.
This Jesse guy is clearly deranged. Why do people even bother obliging him with the talk?
Ax Machina it's worth it for the comedy factor though. His low iq makes for very funny viewing
@@leewhite344 ---- also JLP does kind of allow them to keep talking so it does become a platform to air their views
Why did you oblige to listen?
I was a former biblical religious nut. But thankfully I reach the age of reason at 24. Never felt freer. Cheers ! Here’s to atheism !!😂😂😂😂
How about abortion?
“To a degree...”
LOL Yes, humanism has perfect answers. Cracks me up when someone claims they have a moral system outside of God and then go on to give a bunch of subjective responses that aren’t intuitive at all.
Dancing Diva That makes no sense. Try again.
Absolutely right
It's amazing how these christians are just as arrogant. They say "oh you don't believe in God, I'll pray for you." So gross.
It's cruel that you would let a baby suffer from a disease that will ultimately kill them just because your beliefs.
"I really don't know why they graduated me", that was obviously a rhetorical statement from Jesse. It explains everything, LMAO.
Best comment!!! Lol! True!!!
Couple of things I would like to address first I am a divorce father of 3 sons I did not choose to divorce there Mother I don't believe in divorce I am a Christian man who was divorced from my family because my wife wanted me not to attend church services so she told me I had to decide between God and her (family) I choose God and I was divorced from my responsibility as a husband and a father. Secondly this young man is loss and empty there is a God whom he doesn't know but 1 day soon he will get to know there is a God that loves him and everybody else.
Prove it.
Prove it.
@@zamiel3 DNA proves God simply because DNA is information and information must come from an intelligence source such as binary code ones and zeros we know information must come from someone who put it there secondly do you believe in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything how can order come from chaos such as the Big Bang “ The fool has said in his heart there is no God”. Jesus is lord repent and believe in his death and burial and resurrection come soon lord Jesus
He wasted 14 years all you have to do is believe that Jesus died on the cross on your behalf he shed his blood and he was crucified for you to pay for your sins he was buried and he rose again the third day by believing that you can have eternal life as a free gift of God by faith. Receiving salvation is like falling in love with somebody only you and the other person know that you love each other in the same way only you and God know of your salvation if you physically do good works then that will manifest the new life God has given to you to other people they'll be able to see it physically but there's no good works that you can do to get salvation doing good works is simply the byproducts of having received present salvation
It's one of his best interviews. Peaceful, thoughtful, intelligent. 👍👍
I'm going to tell my wife I am the head of her and see how far I get.
Just curious...... did you do it? What happened?
Please, humanity needs to know these things 👌
Just by your statement you couldn't because you are a BETA, You sound like a woman.
I told my wife that one time. We had issues for about 2 months after. No joke. Lol
Oh so your wife dominates you? BETA
I've watched so many of Jesse's shows and i realize his guests are unaware that they're entering a free therapy session that could change their lives!
You are very correct. They don’t understand what he’s telling them.
😆😂
@@pearldrummer7217 arrogance
You sound arrogant.
😂😂😂😂😂This is genuinely funny after having listened to people talk about having been traumatized by talking to him.
I've noticed that Jesse does the same thing that every other religious person does they have zero facts whatsoever so they ignore what you're saying, he's purposely ignoring him and not responding because Jesse knows he's right and religion has no facts to back up their claims
The fact that I watched this, “Amazing”!
Trying to bait him on his mum, dad and wife just because he wiped the floor with him lol, I like to watch Jessie troll people but he found an intelligent sane man here and couldn’t get him to bite
You need to watch it again. He's trying to help the man to get to the root of his problems.
@@JustJeph33 It is adults who believes in magical jewish carpenters are their god who have problems
What is a man? What is a man? That's AMAZING? That's AMAZING? What is LOVE? What is LOVE?
*Once again, just because you don't like the morality of the biblical God, DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST.*
The Bible teaches that God is good, holy, pure, love etc. Do you think that is compatible with all of the other teachings/rules that you can read in the Bible? If someone can point out one immoral or evil teaching, you can conclude that the God of the Bible is not all loving, holy etc and therefore doesn't exist.
when i am upset about something some one did, i never take it out on my husband. not all women are the same
nerboh lyncaro Jesse thinks women are a monolith and we secretly hate men and are crazzzyyy and since we’re lower than men we have this secret plan to control them....
When Jesus said God alone is good, he wasn't denying his place in the God head! 🙄
He's confused bro
That was his point. You can prove any point of view using the Bible
@Dutchy McSmoka the pencil isn't supposed to be divinely inspired and infallible. If it was then it would be a magic pencil that only wrote the message it was designed to write.
That's what the Bible is supposed to be. But it's not. It contradicts itself and is so broad in it's message that it's far far easier to make it fit your own beliefs.
Then it is to try and decipher what it's true message is supposed to be.
Why would that be if god is all knowing and perfect? Did the devil outsmart him and deliberately add in a bunch of confusion to the Bible?
Or is the Bible simply a book? That is imperfect as many books are.
@Dutchy McSmoka first off, you clearly don't understand metaphors. I was using an example. A very stupidly obvious one. But you don't feel like listening to it.
Reminding me of the people at John 6:53. They thought Jesus literally meant eat of his flesh so they left in disgust.
He was clearly not being literal but if you don't want to listen then you'll just sit there and say that it's disgusting.
Similar situation here, I was obviously making an outrageous claim in order to illustrate a point.
Something the Bible itself does on multiple occasions!
Now you want just one occasion where the Bible contradicts itself? Here. Just one. So I don't overwhelm you with a ton of scriptures. Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18. There is zero logical reasonable way that those two could have happened. I've even looked up apologetics for those scriptures. And they make zero sense.
@Dutchy McSmoka and the only evidence you have that the Bible is perfect. Is the fact that the Bible itself claims that it is perfect. That's it.
The Bible is perfect because it says it is. That makes zero sense.
David Smalley directed me here, I'm about to listen to his episode #337 of Dogma Debate with Jesse ... I've seen Jesse on DP and Cog Dis ... man what a hands down crazy guy lol ... love your work Dave ... man you talk to all of them lol you have incredible patience
This atheist took a baby that wasn't his and raised him as his son, Jesse on the other hand abandoned his baby that was born out of wedlock, refused to care for that childs upbringing, and left the mother and child to fend for themselves. And you Jesse fans think he has morals, or actually cares .. LOL.
Jesse is grasping at straws for a gotcha moment
Yeah . He is in the presence of a real genuine guy. This guy is brilliant.
Where?
Sir GzOnE watched this 10 months ago . I don’t remember. I love Jesse but I just felt he was reachin
@@Gmenpg I didn't see any watching it today
and there we go again: the " you were separated from your dad and brought up by your mother, so you are screwed by definition " argument
Yeah and somehow it's always spot on. Did he choose these people on purpose?
@@Heubles looking at it from inside your box, it might be, but i'm an antheist raised by two loving christian parents.
@@janbuyck1 yeah, i was too, but to be a true Christian takes a lot of time, work and experience. A stable home helps to achieve it.
@@Heubles : since when is not being a christian the same as being a screwup? Are there no christian families of bothwarm an loving parents that produce scewedup children? Are there no atheist families of both warm and loving parents that produce children who don't become screwups? If you think so, i'de like to have the name of the one that taught you that nonsense.
@@janbuyck1 you got it wrong. You have to take a case going wrong and through questions and analyse you can pinpoint where the person lost himself. The moral comes from religion so if the person has his morals all messed up chances are that he or she had abandon religion somehow. That's what Jesse does, he searchs what happen to the person for them to step away from God.
Life and Death is God’s to command. Whether we die by a sword or choking on our spit as an old man, God can command how and when we die. He brings forth life and takes it away. We all die. So to be mad at God because he took it away at a point you didn’t like is illogical because you were always going to die. God always appointed a time when you were going to die. He is the potter, we are but clay in his hands.
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Death Before Sin any evidence for your claims
We have a president that is doing that and we haven’t impeached him yet.
First time EVER seeing u ppl disagree with JLP. Thank God I've been restored with the faith of mankind 😂
Because their a bunch of millennial idiot atheists. Tide Pod eating, socialist morons who raised the age of maturity to 24.
@@terrygrant9140 easy *their*, no ones' hurt, don't hate so much lol
Wow this guy has really really good points. If I was still religious I would have probably spent an hour talking to my priest about this.
And been even more confused...
BETA!!
I see that he totally misunderstood the Bible. (Comparing God with the President...😮)
You can see the uncomfort in jesse's face as this guy breaks down the bible verse by verse.
The only thing is this guy doesn't. He knows nothing about the bible and he knows nothing about the texts he quoted. he is a fraud.
Plant Based Haha
.he's a fraud? Tell me honestly, have you read the entire Bible? If Not, Not only are you a hypocrite. You're a hypoceital fraud judging someone else based on a lack of knowledge.
I pray the Lord softens that mans heart
This is a great interview. I learn a lot. I’m a Christian and I pray this man will turn to God. He does know His Bible but not the power of Jesus. Very good talk
You are both wrong. If there is a God, do you think he will embrace a man that did good without an expectation of reward, or a man that did good because of the fear of punishment. The idea that good people need to worship to be rewarded in an after life is counterintuitive to what an all-knowing being would demand.
@@EPTRotorsports There 100% is a God. Christians don't do good because of a reward. That would be works based righteousness. As in its something YOU DO in order to get int Heaven. That isn't how it works in Christianity. The Bible say's the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. You fear Him in the same way a criminal fears justice. Because God is justice and Holy and we have ALL broken His laws and sinned against Him. Jesus says none is good except God. That is why he provided a savior through Jesus Christ in order to get right with God. Jesus took on our punishment in our stead and all He ask is that we repent from sin and believe and trust in Him. God demands morality, yet we all want to live for ourselves instead and we trivialize our sin and don't see it as deadly serious.
Typical religious cult member
It's obvious JP really hate his mom...
Khalifah Ali Nah he forgave her and his father. He now hates no one, only love. He has told the story multiple times, u should look into it! You might be amazed lol
Khalifah Ali yep and he carries that hate around with him.
U ain't lying sister queen
Couple that with the white man paying him to hate his own people.
Wow this guest actual handled Jesse pretty well..Jesse couldn't corner him as he usually does to other guests
Most guest paint themselves into a corner....no different with this one...atheist...liberals....demon'crats.... transgenders...blm... antifa ....always fall over the cliff
He doesn't really corner anyone. They simply can face reality
This atheist didn't understand the verses he quoted at all, jesus doesn't say he "wants" to create division, he's saying that those who think following him is a simple road where everyone will agree and follow like sheep that this isn't so, that by the nature of things the path he prescribes will not be agreed to by everyone (because god gives you agency) and thus this will lead to conflict and division. He's literally interpreted incorrectly and added a false perception to enforce his preference.
WHEN ASKED WHAT IS LOVE, THE ONLY PROPER RESPONSE IS BABY DONT HURT ME NO MORE
GREAT CHANCE
LOST
That doesn’t answer the question what is love....
I love this. This man is smart, prepared, beat him with the bible. Amazing
Dogma debate podcast has him doing that on a regular basis
@A A And Harry Potter is real because there's a book about him. The Christian right is the most abhorrent, primitive demographic in the world, stagnating the progress of America to the standards of the current highly developed nations.
@@stephenb2276 Isn't "speaking for people in 1 A.D." literally the point of Christianity? Interpreting what people in those times meant? Isn't that all priests do?
@@stephenb2276 thank you. You schooled her good enough. I finally dont have to haha
@@connoreasterday306 your just a fool. You have no valid point. You have a lack of understanding. Thats the only way you come up with that rhetoric
12 Now when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and behold, horror and great darkness fell upon him. 13 Then He said to Abram: “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.”
(In this text here God is telling Abram the his children as in the people of Israel when be slave to Egypt and they will return to the land where Abram is at the moment which was Canaan which will be Israel... [Look closely at verse 16 God said the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete as in the Amorites still have mercy to get themselves together before being destroyed but God knows they will not.... After Israel's 400 year slavery they still have not gotten it right with God so God allows Israel to destroy that blood line because they are too evil
This is the 400th year 2019 All praises
Every single atheist sounds exactly the same
Logical and rational?
That was disgusting to act like it's wrong to have a stepchild!!
It just isn’t optimal.
Josh Terry Right. Whats optimal is a single parent household or that child to be in the foster care system.
That's the not the issue. You just wonder if he didn't consider what dysfunction is at work to have the father leave a woman and a baby and if the woman contributed anything to that dysfunction. I would not date a man who just left a woman with a baby. Something is very red flag about that and they can bring that issue into the marriage.
I really wish Jesse handled this interview better than he did. He should've had responses for every question and belief this man has using the sword we rely on. I don't understand why Jesse didn't use the word to combat his thoughts and assumptions 🤦♂️
Because he can't. Jesse lee peterson is one of the biggest morons out there.
Because Jesse claims to be a Christian but he probably is a Satan's instrument too. Every Christian would easily defend the bs this guy is saying.
Jesus saying he didn't came to bring peace means because of his teachings there will be war. Families will be destroyed, people will turn against each other. Just like we're seeing today.
True
Wow Jesse takes troIIing to the next level. Amazin'
there was no trolling here, this guy ran circles arround Jesse.
wOw jEsSe tAkEs tRoLlInG tO tHe nExT lEvEl
This guy ran circles around Jesse? This aged like Joe biden, terribly! This dude was wrong about everything he has said
What is trolling
@@Mandi2727 a weak tactic to close open minded conversations
Well, this is my favorite interview so far
Can you imagine Richard Dawkins being interviewed by this guy...lol.
🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭🤪🔥💯
Dawkins would be furious hah. Christopher Hitchens would have been even better!
@@callactm14 Excellent definition of Jesse. Amazin'!
Richard Dawkins would walk out 😂 AMAZIN! 😎
This poor guy isso confused the only person he knows how to take it out on is god.
He didn't take anything out on God.
How? Sounds very logical and articulate, don't be like the crazy leftists pushing your beliefs on everyone, if god was a Christian god the whole world would tell the same story of jesus, there are way to many religion's for yours to be the one little buddy
@@chrisgramling8838 Jesus is your king whether you want to admit it or not. Repent now your destruction is at hand.
@@stevenberry7371 😂😂😂😂 you satan worshipers are hillarious
@@chrisgramling8838 you mock and scoff truth. You sir are truly a child of Satan.
Humanist make the world such a better place to be in. Thanks Jesse for doing this video. It really made me question my faith and change my mind about what I believe in . That's AMAZING!
if this makes you question your faith, you ABSOLUTELY should not believe it because you must have really bad reasons for why you do. I don't need people like you making Christians look any worse.
It's true that you don't need people like me to make ya'll look bad. Ya'll are doing just fine doing that without us.
If Jlp really has you questioning your faith..
U obviously had very little to begin with....
Sad ,,,,,,,
@@tracyclark7519 not really, I am not the one that still believes in an invisible man, who lives in the sky and watches everything that we do and that has a list of 10 things that he doesn't want us to do or he will send us to burn forever. But supposedly loves us... yeah, not sad. It is sad that you still believe in fairy tales but to each their own.
iStay Working yea sure this video changed you okay buddy you insult yourself not what you’re attacking
Jesse doesn't stand a chance against a atheist who's actually studied the bible and can quote scripture straight off the top of his head, who's articulate and smart, all the things Jesse isn't.
No Christian can, the ones who are honest become atheist
Atheist who understand the Bible are never against the Bible. They just claim doesn't exist they know the Bible is on point
The best way I can explain why this atheist found his way away from God is the same reason God split mankind at the Tower of Babel. In order for hood to exist it needs evil, we’re here to be challenged and the bad people, or whatever you want to call them, are here to test the good. Judas betrayed Jesus but without Judas we wouldn’t have Jesus. Lesson is this stuff is far more complicated than we can understand and we’re not meant to understand. Just focus on your issues and leave the world to God. Soldiers don’t fight wars they fight battles. It don’t matter what’s happening in Germany when you’re in Japan for example.
This guy sure is handling his self professionally..much respect to His truth.. good guy
What is truth?
A Fact or Belief that is accepted as true..notice I said respect to His👉 truth,not mine☝️
@@opinionhated3104 lol he went quiet
@@jeffvinson4875 oh dear! What happened to you? Never mind, never mind.
Being dishonest he did all wrong.