Will The Tesla Roadster Ever Come Out?

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  • In this clip, Marques and Miles try to make sense of the new updates that Elon is promising for the upcoming Roadster.
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  • @SuchBigglesworthy
    @SuchBigglesworthy 3 месяца назад +513

    27:25 - "7g for 6 seconds could make a person black out" - After accelerating at 7g for 6 seconds, you are going 920 mph, so I don't think this will be a concern

    • @bigdaddy69420
      @bigdaddy69420 3 месяца назад +17

      "I dont think you have the facilities for that mans"

    • @Mercilessonion
      @Mercilessonion 3 месяца назад +19

      7g for 1 second is 252kmph or 160 mph, that's lots

    • @jarinthemood2000
      @jarinthemood2000 3 месяца назад +24

      Oh I get it, the 600 mile range assumed that you wanted to travel the 600 miles in the next 30 minutes.

    • @matroas
      @matroas 3 месяца назад +1

      How dare you doubt Elon’s genius.

    • @TronchedeCake-ws7sd
      @TronchedeCake-ws7sd 3 месяца назад +1

      well Elon did say that the car will be way better than advertised

  • @jakesiu7773
    @jakesiu7773 3 месяца назад +519

    It's ridiculous that they took the full payment and didn't deliver the product in a reasonable time frame.

    • @onsokumaru4663
      @onsokumaru4663 3 месяца назад +73

      That's what people love about tesla when they make empty promises.

    • @jakesiu7773
      @jakesiu7773 3 месяца назад +71

      ​@onsokumaru4663 I bet when/if the roadster actually hits the market...they gonna ask for additional $50-$100k.

    • @EarlyNai
      @EarlyNai 3 месяца назад

      It's just a scheme to get free funding

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 3 месяца назад +11

      @@jakesiu7773
      You have to consider inflation by then.

    • @benjones5799
      @benjones5799 3 месяца назад +18

      They don't take full payment. Cybertruck for example was $100 deposit and the roadster was a $5000 deposit. Reality being if you can afford the roadster, 5k is like 20 bucks

  • @swanauto47
    @swanauto47 3 месяца назад +43

    I was talking with a Porsche salesman one time and I asked him who would ever buy an electric Boxter and he answered, “all those people that never got their tesla roadster, they can go buy one”

  • @dannymartial7997
    @dannymartial7997 3 месяца назад +554

    The last time Tesla prematurely unveiled something, all their competitors started designing, producing, AND shipping pickup trucks before Tesla could. Watch Dodge come out with a gas thruster Charger before the Roadster 😂

    • @savitajadhav1314
      @savitajadhav1314 3 месяца назад +11

      Completely agree 😂😂

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 3 месяца назад +18

      Tesla could still be the first to ship a bev truck that they make a profit on tho. Ford is still losing 40k per truck and gm will never make a profit on the hummer ev. I think the cybertruck is cheaper to produce than those.

    • @Fissan_Poulsen
      @Fissan_Poulsen 3 месяца назад +12

      No one knows the names of all Tesla's competitors' vehicles, but everyone knows and talks about the Cybertruck.

    • @benedictuswinner3995
      @benedictuswinner3995 3 месяца назад +17

      ​@@slopedarmor they dont rust 😂

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 3 месяца назад +11

      @benedictuswinner3995 nothing to worry about, if you look at pictures of deloreans that have been sitting abandoned outside for years, the stainless still looks great. Plus, ive seen plenty of f150s with a lot of rust.

  • @douglasdangelo6755
    @douglasdangelo6755 3 месяца назад +31

    In true Tesla fashion it will underdeliver in performance, be way behind schedule, and completely overshoot it's price point

  • @Zoolookuk
    @Zoolookuk 3 месяца назад +31

    I kind of decided a few years ago that anyone defending Tesla’s ridiculous promises was no longer trustworthy about anything. I say that as a long time Tesla owner.

  • @maadmaxx123
    @maadmaxx123 3 месяца назад +259

    Next gen Tesla Roadster is turning into Half Life 3

    • @FabioRigokimbaorso
      @FabioRigokimbaorso 3 месяца назад +11

      Yes pure vaporware ..

    • @tpad6
      @tpad6 3 месяца назад +5

      Someday Gabe Newell will collab with Elon Musk and release a SpaceX/Valve/Tesla Roadster with Gravity Gun Technology to make it fly.

    • @Fissan_Poulsen
      @Fissan_Poulsen 3 месяца назад +5

      Just like the Cybertruck right?

    • @DeepThinker193
      @DeepThinker193 3 месяца назад +2

      I think they were about to release the Roadster at one point, but then Elon took an arrow to the knee.

    • @slick3996
      @slick3996 3 месяца назад +3

      @@Fissan_Poulsen you seem to be glazing the cybertruck a lot for such a poor quality car

  • @MarcStollmeyer
    @MarcStollmeyer 3 месяца назад +137

    Fun fact Tesla doesn’t have a functioning refund process for the Roadster.

  • @AnthonyTaylor
    @AnthonyTaylor 3 месяца назад +37

    Cold gas thrusters is just a fancy name for CO2 canisters lol. So imagine having to find a place to refill your car with C02.

    • @pipsohio
      @pipsohio 2 месяца назад +4

      Don’t worry it will have on board co2 generators and compressors too!

    • @knoblauchhusten
      @knoblauchhusten 2 месяца назад +2

      And a valve and nozzle

    • @toddr.lockwood843
      @toddr.lockwood843 2 месяца назад +3

      Those CO2 "canisters" are made out of carbon fiber and stainless steel by SpaceX. They have to contain 10,000 psi of air, way beyond a scuba tank.

  • @ch3burashka
    @ch3burashka 3 месяца назад +113

    He made a tweet, and got 30 minutes of airtime. He got a screaming deal.

    • @Beepboop783
      @Beepboop783 3 месяца назад +12

      At the expense of the publics view of him and his company, sure

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 3 месяца назад +2

      Elon needs to pump tesla stock, he has to sell more shares to cover twitter

  • @kingiam9271
    @kingiam9271 3 месяца назад +22

    Elon needs to pump tesla stock, he has to sell more shares to cover twitter

  • @hiratiomasterson4009
    @hiratiomasterson4009 3 месяца назад +66

    There is pretty much 0 chance any insurance company will accept a policy on a car that is designed to lose contact with the road surface - and the impact that has on direction control and braking. But cold thrusters that turn on briefly to shorten braking distances from higher speeds (by thrusting against the direction of travel or vertically downward), increases cornering grip or provide a bit extra acceleration during passing...that will be of great interest.

    • @deej628
      @deej628 3 месяца назад +13

      Good thing Tesla has their own ins.

    • @whschopke98
      @whschopke98 3 месяца назад +5

      You just gave me a totally different perspective on the thrusters. If they are omnidirectional and help with stability and performance in breaking and turns, this car could break so many track records!!

    • @ugk26
      @ugk26 3 месяца назад

      I have unlimited coverage for any vehicle. So it’s most likely possible. But I totally get what you’re saying.

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen 3 месяца назад +1

      Tesla has their own insurance company lmao

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 2 месяца назад +2

      It's highly unlikely that there is sufficient volume available in the car to allow for a long duration impulse from a thruster with sufficient force to aid cornering. Last thing you'd want is to lose grip part way through a turn because the thrust only lasts a fraction of a second. Realistically, this would only be beneficial for acceleration runs, the tank would be completely emptied with each launch, and it would take a few minutes between runs to refill the tanks and reheat the thruster system. The thrusters would also be incredibly loud, so you'd definitely want ear protection for anyone nearby. Just think about how loud an air blow gun is (108db), and those only produce about 1 pound of thrust. Sound regulations limit passenger cars to between 85 and 95db.

  • @dustintrombly
    @dustintrombly 3 месяца назад +18

    The Top Thrill Dragster roller coaster at Cedar Point does 0-60 in 1.2 seconds. Lots of people, including myself, have experienced that. I can’t imagine being in a car that could even match that acceleration.

    • @phdonme1
      @phdonme1 Месяц назад +3

      Don't worry you won't cuz it's never coming out

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo 26 дней назад +13

    I'm glad that Marques finally called the Cybertruck absurd.

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 12 дней назад

      It’s not his call though. He’s just a knock off streamer influencer.

  • @sanford195
    @sanford195 3 месяца назад +89

    I'm over Elon's attempt to once again make the ants scurry. It seems like every time he needs a stock bump or he's not the center of attention we get the Coming Soon shtick. Booooring.

    • @marceldiezasch6192
      @marceldiezasch6192 3 месяца назад +19

      Full self driving robo taxis have been coming next year for the past 11 years.

    • @Alexius1Komnenos
      @Alexius1Komnenos 3 месяца назад +14

      During the Semi reveal he said it would obsolete rail from day one. He loves to just lie like thay

    • @fabianfeilcke7220
      @fabianfeilcke7220 Месяц назад

      ​@marceldiezasch6192 You just don't get it. Musk is so genious, he not only invented the robot car,.but also the robo human. So you just can't see the robot cars because they drove away to live with their robot passengers

    • @DanDeGaston
      @DanDeGaston Месяц назад +5

      SpaceX is going to fly missions from NYC to Shanghai in 29 minutes, It is happening in 2018! :)

    • @phdonme1
      @phdonme1 Месяц назад +2

      And coincidentally all of the executives who have recently quit cashed out around a quarter billion in stock.
      The same amount they took in for this roadster.
      Dudes going to jail for fraud
      On top of all the other bulshit he lied about

  • @finnjacobs
    @finnjacobs 3 месяца назад +150

    Waveform "clips"
    Posts a clip of half an hour long

    • @GNAUT115
      @GNAUT115 3 месяца назад +2

      Hahah

    • @magz0808
      @magz0808 3 месяца назад +14

      I mean, to be pedantic, length is irrelevant, if the original source its cut from is longer, its a clip.

    • @finnjacobs
      @finnjacobs 3 месяца назад +5

      @@magz0808 yeah I guess you're right, but in the context that most people think of when they hear the word clip is a way shorter video in this case

    • @KiegKillsReality
      @KiegKillsReality 3 месяца назад +2

      I mean yeah but I’m not complaining! This is great!

    • @codycast
      @codycast 3 месяца назад

      I’m just glad it’s not vertical looping trash.

  • @amonrei
    @amonrei 3 месяца назад +49

    Maybe Elon saw that one Tom Scott video of a tiny car doing 0 to 100 km/h in 0.956 second.

  • @delxinogaming6046
    @delxinogaming6046 3 месяца назад +5

    This episode begs for an @EngineeringExplained collab

  • @mrb2349
    @mrb2349 3 месяца назад +9

    Those thrusters would require tanks so large/pressurized that if ruptured, would explode like a crate of TNT.

    • @origaminefretami3480
      @origaminefretami3480 2 месяца назад +2

      And dont forget the car is supposed to have a 620 mile range. Thats a huge battery.

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 3 месяца назад +19

    Roller coaster enthusiast here, the fastest accelerating in the world is Do-Dodonpa in Japan, it goes 0-112 mph in 1.56 seconds. Roaster is slow as shit aha.
    Do-Dodonpa is currently not operating though as people kept sustaining injuries from the acceleration G force (and probably not having their heads back). The fastest accelerating coaster currently operating is possibly Stealth at Thorpe Park which does 0-80mph in 1.9 seconds, so most likely thats 0-60 in under 1.5 too.
    Also at 26:49 this is incorrect, these G force numbers refer to vertical acceleration, not forwards. The reason you black out is the blood draining from your brain which only happens at these G forces when it's vertical. So this would only happen in a fast car if you were laid on your front.

    • @matteoalvarez5532
      @matteoalvarez5532 3 месяца назад +1

      didn’t expect to see another thoosie here

    • @chrisogrady28
      @chrisogrady28 3 месяца назад +1

      @@matteoalvarez5532 it's v sad that since writing this they announced that do-dodonpa won't reopen 😭😭😭

    • @matteoalvarez5532
      @matteoalvarez5532 3 месяца назад +1

      @@chrisogrady28 yeah, it sucks

    • @tineursic9481
      @tineursic9481 Месяц назад

      Been on Formula Rossa at Ferrari World in Abu Dhabi. 0-240km/h (150mph) in under 5s, near 5Gs. Pretty fast.

  • @hunternewberry5860
    @hunternewberry5860 3 месяца назад +6

    Your g force calculation ignores the standard 1 foot of rollout distance given to 0-60 times. Its extremely important as you get faster.
    The model S plaid with a 1.99s time gets up to 6mph in the first 1 foot of travel before the clock starts.
    Plaid really goes 6-60mph in 1.99s

  • @Vahndamme
    @Vahndamme 3 месяца назад +9

    That 500 times comment had me cracking hahahaha

    • @DailyShit.
      @DailyShit. 2 месяца назад

      And so dumb because every new sportscar has that.

  • @BounceIO
    @BounceIO 28 дней назад +13

    At this point, the scale of Elon Musk’s deception is huge and it would be awesome for MKBHD to do a bit of research and point it out. This is going to be at the scale of Enron.

    • @zaarkeru3391
      @zaarkeru3391 26 дней назад

      I mean, he dropped the "Model 2".
      The roadster could as well be dropped

    • @BadFoodBlog
      @BadFoodBlog 20 дней назад +2

      What was promises is like a child’s bragging , 400 miles range, it can fly with rockets… 🚀 his bullsh*t is getting old

  • @FromJustJ
    @FromJustJ 20 дней назад +1

    I had a deposit down on a Foundation Roadster, but a year later when it became obvious that the product would not be delivered any time soon I requested and received a full refund. And it's clear now that if they ever actually ship this car, like the Cybertruck the vehicle delivered will not meet any of the extravagant claims they made pre-release.

  • @disfunctionalrobot
    @disfunctionalrobot 3 месяца назад +35

    Just wanted to say that the color grading in this video, especially on Miles, is excellent! As a person of color myself, I'm critical on how often color grading doesn't take into account darker skin tones. RUclips channel editors are especially egregious here. Good job!

    • @nicholasfaber9695
      @nicholasfaber9695 3 месяца назад +11

      That has always been a point of discussion with Marques, pointing out how darker skin tones come out in phone cameras and such, with him being a person of colour its no surprise!

    • @sneauxday7002
      @sneauxday7002 3 месяца назад +1

      ... you do realize this is MARQUES' channel right?

    • @disfunctionalrobot
      @disfunctionalrobot 3 месяца назад +6

      @@sneauxday7002 I don’t know who edits these videos and I’m a pretty casual watcher. Just paying my compliments :/

    • @codycast
      @codycast 3 месяца назад

      Are you sure it’s not just good lighting and cameras?
      But then again, this looks like any other RUclips video to me… so I don’t know what special “color grading” might be doing.

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 3 месяца назад

      ​@@codycastexactly, looks like normal black guys in RUclips 😒🤦

  • @anonimous__user
    @anonimous__user 3 месяца назад +391

    Stop giving Elon Musk credit. I'm so tired of his lies.

    • @joegeezly9613
      @joegeezly9613 Месяц назад +31

      Who cares about the timelines, you’re not getting one anyway.

    • @anonimous__user
      @anonimous__user Месяц назад +7

      What?

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 Месяц назад +34

      ⁠​⁠@@joegeezly9613
      When it never comes out and no one gets what was promised.
      -Will you then care about timelines?

    • @joegeezly9613
      @joegeezly9613 Месяц назад +3

      @@antman7673 it will come out..

    • @nftsasha
      @nftsasha Месяц назад +9

      what lies bro? teslas are best cars out there, fsd is the best supervised autopilot, their batteries are the best (cars, home, AND commercial), etc etc. Stop hatin, start readin

  • @markyates5744
    @markyates5744 Месяц назад

    Cold air thrusters. The air was supposed to be pressured into a carbon wrapped pressure chamber at about 6000psi (crazy high) and if you want this package you lose the back seats. I can imagine 2 thrusters pointing down to give downforce. 2 pointing back to give back to improve acceleration. 2 up-front for braking. and 2 each side for steering.

  • @fxarts9755
    @fxarts9755 3 месяца назад +26

    i was very impressed with Teslas back then but man it's really just been one disappointment after another ever since... a delayed semi, very delayed and more expensive Cybertruck, full self-driving still not anywhere close to being a thing and then whatever happened to the roadster. and that all while the competition didnt sleep if not surpassed tesla...

    • @Jengo621
      @Jengo621 3 месяца назад

      Low effort bait post

    • @bruhmomento7563
      @bruhmomento7563 21 день назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Jengo621what did he say was wrong?
      The semi sucks and theyve made 86 when they claimed theyd make 50,000 by 2024?
      The cybertruck having less range, less towing capacity, higher price, and missing features?
      “Fsd” coming “next year” for the last 9 years?
      Tesla having first market advantage for EV’s that they blew to BYD and soon KIA and Hyundai because Elon is too busy taking ketamine while in power? deliveries are falling and Q2 2024 is supposed to be even more difficult for tesla than Q1. But yea, the company is doing well when the vice president and chairman quit/sell a bunch of tesla stock, when the stock has fallen over 60% since its peak. Because that’s what the leaders of a company do, sell when the stock is low, unless they know it’s gonna get even lower 😂

  • @teejayman215
    @teejayman215 3 месяца назад +23

    Tesla isn't Rivian lol.
    Rivian reveals and produces quality cars.
    Tesla reveals and produces hype

    • @rcmadiax
      @rcmadiax 3 месяца назад +4

      Love my Model 3, but everything they have announced and produced since the Y/3 has been a bust. Semi/CT/Roadster - all delayed and haven’t contributed anything substantial to the company.

    • @jessez8503
      @jessez8503 3 месяца назад +6

      @@rcmadiax You forgot the "Robo taxies," all of your Teslas should have been making you over 20K a year since 2020. How much money have you lost?

    • @kingoftherevolution4855
      @kingoftherevolution4855 3 месяца назад +2

      To be fair
      Rivian is literally ferrari
      And teslas biggest hype man is one of the few famous CEOs

  • @deathab0ve
    @deathab0ve 3 месяца назад +8

    When they unvailed the roadster they claimed it was 200kwhr with "Today's tech". They claimed they could do everything now.

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 3 месяца назад

      They never mentioned 200kwh lol.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 3 месяца назад

      They claimed 200 kWh but not with the tech of 2017. Imho it will be more like 120-130 kWh when it comes out, with maybe an option for more.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 3 месяца назад +3

      @@slopedarmor At the event in 2017 Elon mentioned 200 kWh.

    • @deathab0ve
      @deathab0ve 3 месяца назад

      @@slopedarmor 32:23 second it is on the slide and Elon says it for the Tesla Semi and Roadster Unveil. So you are just wrong.
      @nightshadowblade I can't find the exact video. However I followed this shit hard, and he said the Roadster was able to do 200kwhr with current (at the time) battery tech and would not require the new cells.

    • @bruhmomento7563
      @bruhmomento7563 21 день назад

      @@slopedarmor1000km range requires 3x the battery of a tesla car which is on average 75kwh. Doing the math makes it roughly 200kwh which is why elon mentioned it when he unveiled the roadster

  • @Jason-mk3nn
    @Jason-mk3nn 3 месяца назад +49

    Do you realize that Elon just got you to talk about this rocket vaporware for a half hour to millions of people? This is part of his mastery of performance and persuasion. Not saying it is bad, but just so you know that you totally just gave him free promotion to millions of viewers. (See MadMen's VW Bug scene).

    • @starmanxvi
      @starmanxvi 3 месяца назад +8

      ok?.. i dont think anybody cares bro

    • @sneauxday7002
      @sneauxday7002 3 месяца назад +2

      womp womp

    • @nicholasfaber9695
      @nicholasfaber9695 3 месяца назад +1

      @@starmanxviyeah exactly who cares lol

    • @SirVer51
      @SirVer51 3 месяца назад

      I get where you're coming from, but when even people like them who don't seem to hate Musk are saying to expect it in 2030 and only half joking, I don't know if that's particularly effective marketing for Tesla

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@starmanxviit's hilarious watching all these people getting conned by musk

  • @adamarket
    @adamarket 2 месяца назад +1

    These conversations are very enjoyable. I'm not an engineering nerd and I'm on the wrong side of 50, but I enjoy this show immensely.

  • @theonlyqwert
    @theonlyqwert 3 месяца назад +1

    Makes more sense to aim the thrusters up and momentarily increase downforce in turns then to point them down and make it hop. could even thrust only on the inside of the turn to increase the grip on the inside unloaded tyres. But the point is mute, the size/weight of the tanks required to last a lap/multiple laps would be impractical, street use would be moronic. On board compressors would just make this worse.

    • @RIVERVIEWIAM
      @RIVERVIEWIAM 3 месяца назад +1

      This is so incredibly stupid.

  • @edmondov
    @edmondov 3 месяца назад +12

    Elon full of promises

  • @ROBIRUS24
    @ROBIRUS24 3 месяца назад +1

    A cool feature would be to somehow charge the compressed tanks from braking the car. Basically the inertual energy ofthe cars to stop will push air into the tanks abd charge the thrusters. It should be possible in theory. Even to push a slight amount of air inside it due to being high pressure would make that feasible. This would limit the possibility to use the thrusters very often but would not require charging anymore. And would use the kindetic energy lost when stopping the car either way. Instead of charging the batteries.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 3 месяца назад +1

      No need, the compressor will compress the air around the car for a while, to fill the compressed air tank and then that compressed air from the tank will be used.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 7 дней назад

      ​@@nightshadowblade😂😂 none of that is ever happening.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 7 дней назад

      @@joshlewis575 Well, we'll see, won't we?

  • @britishl0yalist810
    @britishl0yalist810 3 месяца назад

    I wonder if there using the cold air to turn the massive thing in a track because of how heavy it would be like add small amounts of lift to lesson weight to cut corners faster

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 10 дней назад

    I do remember that there was a new report a few years back of an officer in California taking someone's registration because the car has a track mode. Normally it's accepted that such features are legal as long as they're not used on public streets, which this guy did do, but the officer and the department argued just having the feature made the car illegal due to the noise level limitations.
    I could see similar happening with the Roadster if the law is followed the same way.

  • @jairunet
    @jairunet 29 дней назад +1

    Miles Somerville 🙌 future MKBHD 🤛 natural talent dude keep it going ✌

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 10 дней назад

    I thought "Sousian" comes from the renowned composer and music conductor John Philop Sousa. You know, the guy that wrote The Stars and Stripes Forever and many other marches. He was most well known for his marches which primarily accentuate the brass instruments like the trumpets and trombones.

  • @gaxayalew119
    @gaxayalew119 Месяц назад

    It would be nice to see how tight the turns will be. There is the problem of the air jet denting nearby cars, or flesh. 😬

  • @CoderDBF
    @CoderDBF 3 месяца назад +1

    I don’t think the car will be able to jump. I think the thrusters are there to keep the car on the road instead, and perhaps help with the acceleration.
    I just don’t see much point to it otherwise, you’ll lose control of the vehicle and I doubt it’s capable of actually flying with cold gas.

  • @vitormoreno1244
    @vitormoreno1244 3 месяца назад +4

    What limits vehicle acceleration is the tires grip, you can't do 2G+ acceleration without F1 tires AFAIK

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 3 месяца назад

      Yes you can. 2G is 20m/s^2.
      Old cars doing 0-100km/h(≈ 0-60mph) in 4 seconds, do more than 2Gs.
      Those cars are not having F1 tires.

    • @timehmann5789
      @timehmann5789 3 месяца назад +10

      @@antman7673 I think you messed up km/h and m/s there. 100km/h is 27.77 m/s. A car doing 0-100 in 4s is pulling 0.7g's. 2 g's gives you a 0-100 time of 1.4 seconds. Thats not achievable using normal road tires and even many trick tires without any downforce tricks.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 3 месяца назад

      Rear and side Gas thrusters lifts and levitates so the tires will not be doing all the work

    • @timehmann5789
      @timehmann5789 3 месяца назад +2

      @@larryc1616 sorry, but that makes no sense. The only way that gas thrusters will have an effect is when they point in the opposite direction of the direction in which you want to accelerate (they can be angled, but doesn’t make much sense. They are also beneficial when pointing upwards to generate downforce to increase tire grip, but again doesn’t really make sense for acceleration). Acceleration via tires is limited by grip only, not power. But you can add any type of additional acceleration force to the car that does not have to get translated to the ground via the tire. Pointing the thrusters down makes absolutely no sense at all for acceleration. It’s worsening it. Just think in the extreme. When the force of the thrusters is equal to the weight, the resulting weight of the car is 0kg and now trying to accelerate the car with the tires won’t even be possible because the tires are not able to put any force on the road because they will always just start slipping

    • @your_average_cultured_dude
      @your_average_cultured_dude Месяц назад

      @@larryc1616 it is absurdly obvious that you have never studied ANY physics.

  • @chakrameste
    @chakrameste 2 месяца назад +3

    Bet they will be ready by the end of the year... Like everything EM does.

  • @idiNty
    @idiNty 3 месяца назад +2

    Are they maybe using the vacuum technique which is used in the world record car from ETH Zurich?
    This concept could fit in a street legal car and would be save also I think.
    Why do you think they would use something like rocket thrusters?

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 2 месяца назад +3

      Because Elon called them rocket thrusters several times.

  • @mikelmikes310
    @mikelmikes310 14 дней назад +2

    Have you guys heard about Rimac?? Did you know it is a 2 door car that came out of no where??

  • @ev3rybodygets177
    @ev3rybodygets177 29 дней назад

    what happens if you get in a accident with all that compressed air or if the battery catches fire?

  • @DishNetworkDealerNEO
    @DishNetworkDealerNEO 3 месяца назад +1

    Technically, the Cold gas thrusters are still moving the car with electricity, since the compressor is powered by the battery power.

  • @TheCannonMovement
    @TheCannonMovement 3 месяца назад

    I'm not sure who Miles is but he's awesome! Great addition.

  • @jeromeanand
    @jeromeanand 3 месяца назад +12

    Guys, I think a half hour video can’t be called clips..😂

    • @Tetrathegod
      @Tetrathegod 3 месяца назад

      It can because it’s part of the video but it’s not the full thing , it’s CLIPPED

  • @sidewalkere
    @sidewalkere Месяц назад

    8:45 If you are going to put thruster on the car, you make them push the car *forward*, so you don't even have to worry about traction limits....

  • @BMWROYAL
    @BMWROYAL 3 месяца назад +1

    7:27 when it comes to 0-60 it’s about traction, not really horse power, you could give a car 6000hp, it’s not gonna be under a second

  • @alexmccamy6808
    @alexmccamy6808 Месяц назад

    Not me listening to this on my my way to get ingredients for shepherds pie.

  • @i_Nihil_i
    @i_Nihil_i 3 месяца назад

    Edit: It's titled "2020 spacex tesla roadster 0-60 in 1.1s!" and theres a watermark so it might be an edit.
    Theres a super grainy short that i come by every once in a while of a roadster with a spacex emblem on the back accelerating and its completely nuts

  • @Briggsian
    @Briggsian 2 месяца назад +4

    Engineering Explained did a great video on the feasibility of the thrusters a year or two ago. The tanks and compressor required would take up a significant amount of space (the entirety of the rear passenger volume) for what would amount to a gimmick. The thrusters would be exceptionally loud and illegal to use pretty much anywhere outside of select dragstrips. They would also be outright dangerous under braking or while turning, as those are times when consistent acceleration/deceleration is vital to maintaining good vehicle control. Imagine going through a long sweeper at high speed and then instantly washing out and crashing because you no longer have the lateral acceleration from the thrusters helping your tires...

    • @origaminefretami3480
      @origaminefretami3480 2 месяца назад +1

      And on dragstrips, there are street cars doing 7 second quartermiles for years now.

  • @edudilascio
    @edudilascio 3 месяца назад +2

    Even if it does, it will be old news.

  • @zinzinnatiohio
    @zinzinnatiohio 2 месяца назад

    They could probably do software like personal drones have that are blocked from operating in certain areas, certain times, and/or certain conditions.

  • @techxsplorer5081
    @techxsplorer5081 3 месяца назад

    Carlton and Will making a reunion episode

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 3 месяца назад

    the noise wont be a probleme because it will only last for 1-2 seconds 😀 also a lot of sport cars have non legal exhaust noise when esxhaust valves are open. the worse will be the noise of the compressor inside the cabin...

  • @NarcisConstantinescu
    @NarcisConstantinescu 3 месяца назад +1

    Roadster with rockets will be like the Cybertruck boat, a fantasy.

  • @Mach1048
    @Mach1048 3 месяца назад

    The issue with a sub 1 Second 0-60 time at a Drag Strip is that Drag Strips have rules. A car with that engineering ability would need a *BUNCH* of safety equipment for a Drag Strip, so... even then, it can't be used?

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison8478 13 дней назад

    9:30 Maybe the best thing for a car like the Roadster would be a supercapacitor bank. Huge power, minimal concern for range, less weight.

  • @sidewalkere
    @sidewalkere Месяц назад

    6:46 Those thrusters are NOT CGTs. They burned hydrazine with nitrogen tetroxide. Most RCSs that actually reach space are not cold gas based (performance is kind of crap).

  • @michaelchen2718
    @michaelchen2718 3 месяца назад +7

    Color matching on fleek

  • @retartedfreak
    @retartedfreak 25 дней назад +2

    I think this podcast has put more thought into the roadster than Elon or Anyone at Tesla

  • @bobbyt2012
    @bobbyt2012 2 месяца назад

    If you don't apply power through the tires, you don't really need to worry much about grip.

  • @JessicaFyre
    @JessicaFyre 3 месяца назад +11

    Yes - it will Marques - You need to review 65square!!!

    • @KoraFyre
      @KoraFyre 3 месяца назад +3

      The world's healthiest social media!

    • @Nobodyfast555
      @Nobodyfast555 3 месяца назад +3

      Looks sick

    • @lasvegasb4ugo
      @lasvegasb4ugo 3 месяца назад +3

      It's just verified socials? Looks like a game haha

    • @mysickreality5467
      @mysickreality5467 3 месяца назад +3

      wow so 65square is just social media on other platforms and it verifies? or?

    • @storeganics2738
      @storeganics2738 3 месяца назад +5

      Yes do a review MKBHD and trash this stupid nonprofit

  • @travisherdt
    @travisherdt 3 месяца назад +5

    One of the biggest reason why the roaster has been delayed is the chief engineer who designed the new roaster left to work for Ford. It was a huge setback.

    • @joels7605
      @joels7605 3 месяца назад +5

      One of the biggest reasons is the laws of physics.

    • @travisherdt
      @travisherdt 3 месяца назад

      @@joels7605 physics check out chief and not just on paper, we have proof of concept.

  • @mickaelsflow6774
    @mickaelsflow6774 9 дней назад

    The only thing I'd find interesting in the Roadster would be if they advertise it at

  • @SuchBigglesworthy
    @SuchBigglesworthy 3 месяца назад +6

    21:00 - the most powerful roller coaster launch in the world, Do-Dodonpa in Japan, is 0-112 mph in 1.56 seconds. No way the roadster is even going to sniff that acceleration. Still going to be super cool, though.

    • @aidilmubarock5394
      @aidilmubarock5394 3 месяца назад

      There's Speirling car that does 0 to 60 in 1,4 sec

    • @matteoalvarez5532
      @matteoalvarez5532 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aidilmubarock5394not sure what your point is, do-dodonpa still accelerates faster than that

    • @SuchBigglesworthy
      @SuchBigglesworthy 3 месяца назад

      @@aidilmubarock5394 Impressive. But it's still only about half the acceleration.

  • @silverghini2629
    @silverghini2629 3 месяца назад +1

    Perhaps the roadster will have ground effects like the Gordon Murray T50 fan car?

    • @alesksander
      @alesksander 3 месяца назад

      I doubt that .But tho fan car is one most effective downforce generating techniques. I was of opinion that Tesla should do outsourcing for Roadster development. British car manufacturer wint any aero and racing car expeiences would be very welcome. Aero and sportcar design for track racing is very diferent beast that "just" drag racing and model S design of luxury car.

  • @calebleuciuc670
    @calebleuciuc670 3 месяца назад +20

    The roadsters main issue was the plaid coming out. O-60 in 2 seconds in the sedan set the bar so high they have to absolutely crush it to make the roadster really appeal

    • @MrRandomguyTom
      @MrRandomguyTom 3 месяца назад +26

      It's sad that people associate sport cars only with 0-60 time. You can have way more fun and better experience in slower cars, that handle well, are more agile, lighter and so on.
      Roadster still would make sense even with similar 0-60 time with model S.
      Roadster would be proper sport car, model S is just a fast sedan...

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 3 месяца назад +17

      @@MrRandomguyTom exaclty, but what do you expect from MERICA where they literally only drive in a circle or on a straight line while racing?

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 3 месяца назад +1

      Elon needs to pump tesla stock, he has to sell more shares to cover twitter

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AngryAppleThe Model S Plaid, despite its enormous weight, can complete pretty much any track just as fast, if not faster, than a brand new Porsche 992 911 Turbo S which many people consider the “funnest, best handling” car on the planet.

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MrRandomguyTomIt’s not about 0-60, this isn’t 2016 anymore. The Model S Plaid can go 0-200mph (300km/h) in just 14 seconds. In comparison a $400K 2023 Porsche 992 GT3 RS takes 25 seconds to hit 290km/h. The Plaid even has a higher top speed.

  • @antonio_fosnjar
    @antonio_fosnjar 3 месяца назад +1

    Range will surely be max 400miles, realistically around 300miles. All the other specs seem to be in the realm of possibility for Tesla to execute.

  • @AP2780
    @AP2780 3 месяца назад +3

    Can’t wait to see it in the wild

    • @BCJDM
      @BCJDM 3 месяца назад +6

      You'll be waiting a long long time

    • @bruhmomento7563
      @bruhmomento7563 21 день назад +1

      Along with the nikola truck and the blood sampler from theranos!

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 3 месяца назад

    pushing the car down doesn't require less horsepower to accelerate the car, actually slightly more. it just increase downforce, thus how much horsepower you can transfer from the tires to the ground. its like thinking putting a huge wing on your car is going to make it faster in a straight line
    also thrusters will generate a certain thrust that at a given speed could be expressed in horsepower, but thats not how you measure the performance of thrusters.
    the roadster without thrusters is advertised 1.9s 0-60mph, that is around 1.5G
    to fo under 1s, 2.8G, the spacex version will need at least 1.3G of thrust to go under 1s. I'm not even counting the weight of the system.
    if the roaster is about 5000lbs, that's about 65000lb of thrust, thus why the car would be able to fly if thrusters under the car have similar thrust
    if the exhaust velocity is around 600m/s which ive read somewhere, it would mean abut 100lbs of air being expelled every second.
    at 10000 psi that is ~50kg/s or 100lbs/s
    then you have to consider that when tank starts to lose pressure, gas wil exhaust slower, creating less thrust/ lb of air, so youd need probably double the amount of air in the tank (last half is not used. even at 10000psi that means 30 gallons air tank for 1 sec of thrust. the tank would hold 200lbs of air when full and be half empty after 1s (one 0-60)
    The biggest bottleneck will be the time (and energy) required to pressurize back the compressed air tank. also if the quicker the compressor, the bigger/heavier/noisier it will be.
    are you ready to lose dozens of miles of range just for one second of acceleration, and then hear a loud air compressor for 15 minutes? it's like filling a scuba tank, with a compressor, except higher pressure, and bigger. its a huge amount of noise & heat generated

  • @Moray2023
    @Moray2023 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm fairly sure he was just planning on light weight re-bodying a model s plaid power train, now he's worked out that won't work.

  • @TheTripleFCollection
    @TheTripleFCollection 3 месяца назад

    When you FINALLY get your hands on that Space X Roadster…you know who to call 📞

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 3 месяца назад

    finding clients for the 1s 0-60 spaceX package wont be the problem they will be low volume and very hard to get. any supercar is always much more sought after in the most radical, low production track version. they hold and even gain value WAY more than the base versions. they barely have 10hp more, some carbon fiber, louder exhaust and charge 50k or more for that
    the spaceX roadster would be a hugely collectible item even if the cold thrusters never get used because they're not practical.
    there's always people queuing instantly for any 500k+ super/hypercar

  • @tannerbaer
    @tannerbaer 3 месяца назад +2

    The BYD Yangwang U9 can jump so if the Roadster doesn't hoover I don't care. I can see them using thrusters in a up-backwards direction like dragsters use their zoomie pipe to push the car into the ground. Still think the McMurtry Spéirling will be pretty hard to beat.

  • @genius1a
    @genius1a Месяц назад

    That was a nice, relateable talk! My point of view is, that Tesla under Elon Musk was planning to do the Roadster 2.0, but as they learned more about R&D costs for their core mission cars alone, they found out, that they can not afford it so far. But they used the tech they had demoed and planned to put into the new Roadster into the Tesla plaid instead, as a preview and even more usable and volume selling replacement. As you pointed out - its as useless as most Hypercars in real life and there seems no reasonable way to actually use cold gas thrusters other than the short time downforce enhancing idea. To be honest: I hope the next Tesla Roadster 2.0 Tech demo will be showing an actually electric flying car with cool specs and design.

  • @myfirsttea
    @myfirsttea 5 дней назад

    People who put in the non-refundable deposit on the Roaster 7 years ago technically got scammed.

  • @thomasspirko6361
    @thomasspirko6361 Месяц назад

    Speaking of items on the Tesla drawing board, what happened to Tesla Pi (super Smart Phone) ???

  • @alexandrumarinescu1
    @alexandrumarinescu1 3 месяца назад +1

    Maybe the SpaceX is just like a trim level, with just some space theme visual details.

  • @ivarwind
    @ivarwind Месяц назад +1

    There's a big difference between using a cold gas thruster (i.e. a canister of compressed gas) to change the orientation of a rocket in free fall or give a light push to a maneuvering unit weightless in space, and then using the same technology to lift an entire car with a heavy battery in it off the ground in full Earth gravity - as in: the latter isn't going to happen. (Also it's an absurdly stupid idea to do it, even if you could)

  • @flox8342
    @flox8342 3 месяца назад

    what about topfuel dragsters as a reference? or are they even faster accelerating?

    • @sierrafoothillphotography
      @sierrafoothillphotography 3 месяца назад +1

      0-100 in .8 seconds 0-200 in 2.2 seconds. For top fuel dragsters

    • @flox8342
      @flox8342 3 месяца назад

      @@sierrafoothillphotography so no competition xD

  • @thederekFawcett
    @thederekFawcett Месяц назад

    "sub 1 second 0 to 60".... do you guys know about the Plaid "1.99 second 0 to 60" where it says "rollout subtracted"

  • @KaiSosceles
    @KaiSosceles 3 месяца назад +2

    Why ship products when you can get risk free returns on your customers pre-order money?

  • @amzab123
    @amzab123 Месяц назад

    Maybe there are no motors on the wheels and instead there's front-facing fans powered by those same crazy motors. Sounds Aeronautical and would explain him saying '(...) if you can call it that.'

  • @jacobfavreault4067
    @jacobfavreault4067 Месяц назад

    Since they announced the Roadster, Lucid designed, produced, and shipped the Air Sapphire which already achieved a 9.8 quarter mile and 1.86 0-60

  • @JCintheBCC
    @JCintheBCC Месяц назад

    Transport of compressed gas requires specific licensing. The SpaceX package would require specific licensing to drive on public roads, at the very least.

  • @rushtest4echo737
    @rushtest4echo737 Месяц назад

    The world's fastest accelerating roller coaster was just shut down and removed for breaking people's spines LOL

  • @DenisKudlik
    @DenisKudlik 3 месяца назад +21

    It's Elmo. Of course he'll just be talking out of his ass. If he opens his mouth, assume he's lying.

  • @lochlinrecht1427
    @lochlinrecht1427 3 месяца назад

    You can have non street legal features on a car but if used on the road it is illegal. Like the mustang gt500 track mode for its exhaust.

  • @pauldobson9379
    @pauldobson9379 3 месяца назад

    Elon wasn't quite. He clearly stated, the Roadster would be more of the "Cherry on top project" and would need to wait for the other higher impact effects. Tesla is a public corporation and needs to focus on the balance sheet which a roadster won't impact much.

  • @duomaxxwell7311
    @duomaxxwell7311 28 дней назад

    I’ve broken a decibel meter before with a sound system lol

  • @tmz_rsu
    @tmz_rsu 3 месяца назад

    It’s obviously easier to land a car than a rocket and the spaceX tech for landing rockets is incredible. When I saw Elon’s tweet that said this is gonna be the coolest tech demo ever, I just imagined them yeeting the car off a roof and it just uses the cold thrusters to re-orient and land itself on the stage. Now that would be cool.

  • @MICROKNIGHT3000
    @MICROKNIGHT3000 2 месяца назад

    Didnt elon said that the acceleration and speed is the 'least' interesting part of the new roadster? I vaguely remember that and I hope it has holograms or HUDs lol

  • @arthurogervais
    @arthurogervais Месяц назад

    The 911 Turbo S is only about 200kg lighter than a Model 3 Performance. The BMW M3 competition has about the same weight as a Tesla M3P.

  • @YassineSouilmi
    @YassineSouilmi 3 месяца назад +1

    @mkbhd you should invite @scottmanley to answer all your rocketry questions.

  • @edolla6577
    @edolla6577 3 месяца назад

    can't wait to see MK fit in the Roadster..

  • @starlord8973
    @starlord8973 3 месяца назад +9

    IT WONT have the 500 Mile RANGE wasn't the CYBERTRUCK MENT to have a 500 MILE RANGE ?

    • @FabioRigokimbaorso
      @FabioRigokimbaorso 3 месяца назад +2

      One of the many many Musk lies ...

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 3 месяца назад

      Agreed, it will probably have 400 miles instead of 621, but they might offer a range extender just like they did for the Cybertruck. With that the CT should be getting well over 400, maybe even 450+, so pretty close to 500.

    • @marceldiezasch6192
      @marceldiezasch6192 3 месяца назад +2

      Apparently the Semi has a 400 mile range fully loaded... with Cheetos.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 3 месяца назад

      @@marceldiezasch6192 Not true, fully loaded, at ~82000 lbs, it can do 500 miles at 55 mph with good weather. With bad weather and higher speeds the range will drop of course.