Look to Lawrenceville Plasma Physics for a pulsed fusion design that produces a directed stream of helium as a byproduct of PB11 fusion. It can provide not only electrical power directly, but also thrust based on the stream of ionized helium.
No it cant its been in development for over 20 years no net energy yet, its all interesting decelopment but yet unproven for anything practical. It has some ways to go. Also even in the most optimistic scenario their expensive electrodes will wear down and will need replacement all the time, and they have no good solution for that even on paper.
Comparatively speaking, the lithium blanket used in tokomak styled fusion reactor prototypes are more expensive than the beryllium electrodes used in LPP Fusion's DPF prototype, and the electrode corrosion problems have been greatly mitigated through their pre-ionization technique, electrode redesign, and electrode alignment approach. They have several published papers describing their success on those topics and more. Also, considering that LPP Fusion can generate 2.8 billion degrees of plasma heat, they're close to the fusion temperature required for hydrogen-boron fusion, and they'll begin experiments with that fuel this month.
Also to mention the use of plasma beams for well drilling. The concept is called enhances geothermal. It is possible to drill a well deep enough to tap high temperature. Electricity is generated by using a circulating fluid that turns an electric turbine at ground level.
@@RandallEnglish-nf7wq As a whole ,I do not think the earth's inner core will cool down any . A good part of the inner core's heat comes from nuclear decay. Also, even our deepest drilling is only just a scratch. The real issue is localized cooling near the radial heat collecting tubes. Over time, if heat is removed, how fast will that lost heat be replaced? Only testing will provide an answer. Say, there is an equalized one degree drop from the original surrounding 500 degree rock. I think we can live with that.
@@RandallEnglish-nf7wq the earths core is so large its taken 4.5 billion years to cool down enough to create a solid crust only 10-50 km thick, you could have the entire planet run on geothermal energy and it would likely take tens of millions of years to use a significant amount of it.
Good to keep in mind that you are imparting kinetic energy to the propellant so doubling the exhaust velocity requires four times the energy. Unless you have efficient fusion power or beam it to a spacecraft by laser or antimatter the thrust is going to be extremely low and the acceleration time hug.
Congratulations ... very beautifully thought out ... more engines put in parallel and then a single way of escape and this can be used as a particle accelerator ... increases the particle flow will increase the current taken by accelerator ... In my idea, ionized particles are first accelerated in a circular accelerator (where the particles pass from one accelerator to another) and then are evacuated through more nozzles ... which work in parallel. My motor is a hybrid between the rocket and a accelerator...
Imagine being in a ship and walking in the engine section where the ship's power source is a fusion reactor in the shape of Helion's. Such a futuristic and cool image!
I read about another old somewhat similar but much simpler concept where the rocket nozzle was a thin, long cone where the walls transitioned from neutron absorbing materials to neutron reflecting materials. When pumping a nuclear liquid salt at high pressure, a fission reaction can be maintained at the end of the nozzle for enormous specific impulse values
You seem to be referring to Bob Zubrin's NSWR: Nuclear Salt Water Reactor, which is indeed fascinating, but requires some extra complications in order to keep the neutrons in only the proper section. I have never seen that additional part described.
Removing the need for SUSTAINED CONFINEMENT at fusion conditions is a HUGE simplification on the road to PRACTICAL FUSION. Very probably, it is a _necessary simplification._
It is worked upon, in the UK, and orbital tests are scheduled for 2027. NASA has joined with DARPA, to provide a fission drive, which is also scheduled for orbital testing in 2027. The SpaceAge may possibly start in 2030 A.D. From there I predict 400 years untill we go interstellar. 🚀🏴☠️🎸
@@Kawka1122 we have proven it to work. their is a lab that has already used it to produce more then put in. its just a matter of upscaling and electrical efficiently. check out the video, its on youtube if you want to see, they have a video model showing how they did it.
I read about China working on them on aircraft 6 years ago about 12 years ago I was thinking about this on my own just based on plasma experiments people do in microwaves and my conclusion was material science was the only limiting factor and look at how fast we are advancing.
This is more Halo than Star Trek. UNSC (Human) ships use Fusion engines, and even though the Infinity uses Repulsor drives it's still technically a Fusion drive.
I like it. Please look into Viktor Schauberger's Implosion Drive Engine, also known as the Trout Drive. I believe it has a lot of potential for future propulsion. Legends say, from multiple sources, that he bolted this implosion drive down on his lab counter and it was so strong that it busted the bolts off and shot through the roof of his ceiling. I heard this happened on more than one occasion. He was later contracted (or coerced) by the Nazis to work on their exotic technologies.
Karl Schappeller was on that boat on well. Learned from his work, loved his take on propulsion drives... And various "Black Box" projects learned and enhanced his work. 3 Names; Vril, Haunebu, Andromeda.
Nuclear detonation engines rely on some kind of suspension system that would in theory cushion the explosion and allow for lower G-forces during a blast, I imagine such device would make a roar of it's own as it's suddenly compressed against the rest of the vessel, like a piston, or rather like a telescopic antenna that's being suddenly shortened... by a dynamite.
what about Inertial electrostatic confinement with a rotor in the middle of the plasma doughnut with A Symmetric coils that use the EM fields to rotate and internal Paltier fins to utilize the heat to generate the electricity required ?
If your generating pure-thrust, then it would be equal to a propeller on a plane, only on the electron scale. You'll need to solve the handling of braking and turns at high speeds without pasting the occupants.
Sorry it's 96 megajoule in water it can feed itselfes with power! The extra input can be an extra layer of sunpanels on the wings! And battery storage a few supercaps.
Just a minute in here, but do remember that fusion needs more shielding than fission. An open fusion reaction would spew out massive amounts of radiation, so we can't use this anywhere near our own atmosphere, this would only be useful for interplanetary or interstellar propulsion,
A small group is making short burst of plasma and using in house to capture the energy ultra capacitors, what about this but in revers? For energy output
Check Out LPP Fusion. They use turbulent flow to create the pinch and produce a plasma beam. This beam could be used for propulsion. For energy generation the beam can be passed through an induction transformer to get electricity directly. No steam turbine. The pinch also produces a Flash of X-ray which can also be captured and turned into electricity. I like this system as it has few moving parts, is compact, and lighter than other fusion attempts. Which means it could actually be viable as a propulsion system or energy generation system on a space craft where reliability, size, and mass are all key factors.
1st craft. Smallest payload, mostly just fuel. Leaves faint nearly undetectable matter trail of used fuel. All following craft get tiny benefit from gathering/ramming the matter trail and ejecting it out the back
This tech WILL be viable for spacecraft propulsion, but it is in its infancy so more time and research is needed. I wonder if anyone has thought of using isomers as a power source to "spark" the plasma drive? The US Dept of Defence is looking at isomer bombs, others are looking at isomers in super batteries.
What we need is a magnetic field in the shape of a propeller rotating behind one of these rockets! I say propeller, but the magnetic field will probably be shaped more like a jet engine turbine with some fast expanding gas/plasma.
It seems that these kinds of “new” projects pile up one on top of the other, as the previous ones are forgotten by the public and RUclipsrs as they go along, even though they've been in development for decades (but never go into production). For example, look up John Slough's FDR (fusion driven rocket).
131 star systems are within 6 parsecs of our solar system. If such a drive works potential long term probes could make such a journey to those stars within 20-100 years. That's a huge upgrade given the two Voyager probes have been going about 40 years & haven't reached the Oort cloud yet.
1. What makes these new plasma engines better than existing xenon ion engines? They have been around since the 90s and are an established technology. 2. You mention fusion, but why is fission (radioisotope generator) not mentioned as a valid energy source here? We've been using fission for long-haul missions since voyager 1, and as recently as the Mars Curiosity rover.
1. Much higher energies = higher thrust for given mass of propellant. 2. The problem with fission in space is energy density of the generation system: a. Voyager doesn't use fission, it uses radioactive decay. There have been a few fission experiments, mostly Soviet, but Voyager doesn't use it. b. The problem for fission in space is that the generation side is thermal, ground based reactors have large amounts of water and atmosphere to dump the waste heat into, and are typically around 30% thermally efficient. So to get the 200MW mentioned in the video with fission, you would need a way to dump around 667MW of heat. In space this is limited to radiation of heat, as there is no atmosphere or other substance that you can use convection or conduction. Which makes this very hard.
#1; Greater thrust, but the issue arises on handling. #2; Fusion is a trickier deal since your coalescing energy together, in a cosmic storm you can't see in space. Possible good, you get the power... Most probable bad, too much power that it'll fry all your electronics.
8 pounds of thrust per kW is much better than Dawn's propulsion which only 0.33 ounce of thrust and the spacecraft is powered by 10kW solar panels. Can this be used in space?
Are the temperatures referenced kinetic or radiant? I would think they are kinetic since it is more about the energy in the particle rather than the radiated measurement of temperature. Anything with a nuclear reactor (fission or fusion) currently has size/weight limitations. One of the benefits of plasma drives is the long, slow acceleration provided so you are getting a 'felt' sense of gravity (acceleration) vs chemical engines bursts and glides. Provided thrust is not great but if you can accelarate for half the trip then decelerate on second half, you can greatly reduce travel times.
You need to look at it in a different way. Truly take the warp coil it introduced that energy into the coil creating a magnetic field around the craft to bend time and space think it’s going to be really difficult to keep worse to sustain a bubble vacuum, but it is possible to create a vortex which is a window from one dimension to another
The folly of all conventional fusion rockets is their over reliance on plasma made by fusion fuels. The plasma simply has not enough mass to be a viable alternative to a fission thermal rocket or particle beam propulsion. High thrust requires a lot of mass so you'll need a way to make sure that you insert extra propellent into the plasma. I think it's common knowledge that this is hard to do unless you greatly increase the complexity of the drive. Another important factor is radiation. Much of a fusion reaction's energy comes in the form of neutron and x-ray radiation. It's enough to vaporise any unprotected system near the plasma. A far more efficient alternative is pulsed fusion power. Take an orion drive, remove the pusher plate and install a (non ablative)heat shield instead. For a pusher plate, you activate a strong magnetic field just above the shield. Instead of nuclear bombs, we use fusion fuel encased in a ball of frozen water or something similar. At around 300 meters away from the craft, the fuel pellets are targeted by a laser. The temperature is enough to make the reaction happen and a large cloud of plasma appears. All of that plasma slams into the magnetic field and creates thrust. All in all, you have low complexity, no need for radiators and better efficiency.
So as it seems this would be something like pulse type of engines on Star Trek ships? Nice, aside from Alcubierre's warp drive this is second thing that goes into Star Trek direction.
Best batteries are 20 times less energy dense than jet fuel like you said but also dont get the huge advantage of getting lighter as its burned like a chemical fuel
Wondering if solar sheets can produce the power needed to keep feeding the plasma or make use of solar storms 🤔so much to think of and endless possibilities
i don't think it matters. the problem realistically is with source of power, not with methods of creating exhaust. a man named Robert Enzmann proposed using particle accelerators to drive his proposed echolance starship. this ship was supposed to achieve up to near lightspeed without any substantial new tech. realistically, just strap a steam turbogenerator onto a standard nuclear reactor, and you should have far more than what is needed to get to mars in 39 days. more power means more vasimir scale ability.
@@joependleton6293 But its terrible. "Requires 200 kW electrical power to produce 5 N of thrust, or 40 kW/N" "Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket (VASIMR)" may seem like an excellent choice, but your facing another drawback; Its handling is terrible, and you haven't created your own gravity well.
If they try to utilise the Thrust generated by Plasma to drive a Turbine blade to create kinetic energy and they make a commercial gain from that product then I will see them in Court. I pattented that technology a few years ago.
@@lumberluc I've just finished 3D printing the first prototype. Although I still have a lot of auxiliary parts to make including a vacuum chamber to mount it in and a Marx generator to supply the current.
they had the concept in the 1950 or earlier the impulsed was though to gain 10% of the speed of light but using atomic detonation pules there was also a jet intake model proposed that pulled in the suns exhaled plasma(which travels around 10 % the speed of light) and projectile vomited it out through several thrust increasing chambers to a theorized speed close to that of light ,so yeah its got lots of possibility in space why would you want to in the atmosphere fire a ball of plasma at high speed at some object em disturbing pretty colours
No, if we cannot build a plasma fusion reactor, we cannot build a fusion drive either. First you need to be able to extract energy from the drive to provide the power needed to create the conditions for plasma, sustain the plasma & provide magnetic confinement to protect the engine from getting destroyed by the very hot plasma.
For storage of hydrogen as hydride, (Yb3H8), remains the highest hydride of ytterbium. Utilizing the diamond anvil cell methodology. This is a good fuel storage technique of value even for supersonic jets that presently carry more than 25,0000 liters of fuel for a single journey.
We all know that UAP's don't use Plasma Engines. Because there is no propellant at all. So they should dich all of this and research the technologies that will actually get man kind somewhere.
Yes, but we haven't got there yet to utilise zero-point energy and drives based on it (officially). This is best we got so far but it's an improvement nonetheless.
@@stevannikolovski have you seen ex NASA scientist Dr. Charles Buhler and his team are called Exodus. They are working on propulsion without any propellant. They claim that the team already managed to achieve over 1G of thrust in Vacuum meaning, things can actually levitate even in Earth's gravity.
Anything can cost less if its made in Abundance. The High cost of creating a new system like this is mitigated way down the line when it become commonplace.
Энергия квант - фотона зависит сильно от частоты. У красного и фиолетового одинаковая скорость но разная энергия по частоте. отсюда следует, что скорость ограничена только проводимостью среды, а у квант - фотона, уже скорость превышает "с", и природа превышение "с" переносит на частоту. Частота 1/t главная составляющая время. Превысив частоту, изменится время и скорость.
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You make a nuclear powered airplane and problem solved. Small modular reactors (SMRs) range from 20 to 300 megawatts and they are 100 to 1000 times smaller than their bigger counterparts. 6 pounds per kilowatt means you can have 120,000 to 1,800,000 pounds of thrust consistently for about 7 years straight...
I don’t think fusion will ever be viable to produce net energy, but for relativistic (fraction of light speed) deep space propulsion it could be very powerful 🚀
If you fuse a photonic plasma wouldn’y hurt….plus is sending a volt similar to lightning bolt fine a photonic plasma it could act as a conducting electric line for wireless energy transferring maybe anyways
I think that this will begin of something new as in out of this we can understand more about the working of plasma and a new system will amerge from it
I’m sorry but you’re greatly mistaken you don’t only require fuel for a turbo generator you need oxygen to burn the fuel and a great deal of it. A fission reactor to generate the power for the plasma Fusion Drive is the most practical way currently
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I think a microwave enhanced diode array laser with pulsing magnetic field to compress the flow where small amounts of ??? (maybe iron and hydrogen or carbon and hydrogen) are turned into plasma by the MASER could be fuel and energy efficient enough for long duration space travel.. A solar array to power this in the inner planetary zone would be large but not unrealistic as would a solar furnace.. A small to medium sized nuclear molten salt reactor running an ammonia vapor turbine would not be overly large as a primary or backup power source..
All these different engine ideas are great, but im hearing that they not so good in Earth's atmosphere. So when are they going to run space tests? Oh thats right, its too expensive to launch anything into space so those prototypes will never get there. Is there any news on new launching systems to get craft into space?
Tech Planet, If plasma power only needs a power supply, then this power source is possible right now. The project is unfunded, but the concept could deliver Mega-watts in a super small package ~ 1 Mega-watts for just 70 lbs. Power is developed using QED principles. Let me know if you're interested. -e
I want a new drive that replaces chem rockets. Until that day we still need to use primitive conventional rockets to get all these fancy new toys into space. I see it in Sci-Fi all the time. It's not like they don't know what we need. They just don't know how to make one practical.
I think you can make a hydrogen ion engine using microwaves at 1kw that would be more powerful than vasimir. This could be done with a stable self contained plasmoid and linear accelerator.
Hmm... Thomas Townsend Brown got the drive down even better. If your using hydrogen instead of kerosene, it would need to have a methodology of capacitively carrying negative-ions to be recycled into a feedback loop system, and propel the craft. He was using high-voltage, and could produce 0.1 Newton of force at 5 watts. Formula: 2,000 Newtons for every Kilowatt. His "Project Winterhaven" was what we were suppose to have in the 50s.
Propulsion is only one big problem that wants a solution, if mankind wants to visit at least the interesting part of our little solar system. Is anyone even trying to develop a real-time comm-system or is it okay for you, when you get into trouble, the time sensitive kind of trouble and need to hold the line for just another 2 day to maybe get a response or next maybe when the crew is no longer with us.
any nuclear reactor which has infinite propellant, as millions times more energy storage density over conventional rocket fuels. yes even fission reactors. like photon radiation drive.
You have solved half the puzzle, plasma needs thrust and using turbine is inefficient; by using frequency to thrust plasma will derive efficiency, feel the thrust from a simple speaker at low frequency...get the feeling?
Air breathing plasma thruster is a dead idea because it requires so much electricity that is nearly impossible to generate without a nuclear reactor on board. And if we have a nuclear reactor on board it's a better idea to heat the air using the heat of a nuclear reaction rather than use bulky steam turbines and generators to turn the heat of a nuclear reaction into electricity and then turn it back into heat using microwaves.
"DESTROYS" = typical overly used hyperbole click bate exaggeration ... much better & correct word: "outperform" (low case letters)
Yeah, I hate that too. It is like "game over" or some stupid shit in the title that doesn't apply when you watch the video.
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Yea, I clicked on this expecting to see Space X trying to make a fusion thruster only for it to make the rocket explode.
bate = bait?
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Look to Lawrenceville Plasma Physics for a pulsed fusion design that produces a directed stream of helium as a byproduct of PB11 fusion. It can provide not only electrical power directly, but also thrust based on the stream of ionized helium.
I will check it out, thanks!
No it cant its been in development for over 20 years no net energy yet, its all interesting decelopment but yet unproven for anything practical. It has some ways to go. Also even in the most optimistic scenario their expensive electrodes will wear down and will need replacement all the time, and they have no good solution for that even on paper.
Comparatively speaking, the lithium blanket used in tokomak styled fusion reactor prototypes are more expensive than the beryllium electrodes used in LPP Fusion's DPF prototype, and the electrode corrosion problems have been greatly mitigated through their pre-ionization technique, electrode redesign, and electrode alignment approach. They have several published papers describing their success on those topics and more. Also, considering that LPP Fusion can generate 2.8 billion degrees of plasma heat, they're close to the fusion temperature required for hydrogen-boron fusion, and they'll begin experiments with that fuel this month.
@@dewaynehiggs2098 I'm aware and waiting for the results of the PB11 testing.
3:55 Mars in 39 days? Apply the brakes and reach a full stop about 3 miles from one of Jupiter's satellites.
Also to mention the use of plasma beams for well drilling. The concept is called enhances geothermal. It is possible to drill a well deep enough to tap high temperature. Electricity is generated by using a circulating fluid that turns an electric turbine at ground level.
(The best-known example being Quaise Energy who, IIRC, are working on a pilot bore at the moment. See their website for details.)
But whatts the limit because if to many well are tap then the heat exchange and will cool the earth inner core???
@@RandallEnglish-nf7wq As a whole ,I do not think the earth's inner core will cool down any . A good part of the inner core's heat comes from nuclear decay. Also, even our deepest drilling is only just a scratch. The real issue is localized cooling near the radial heat collecting tubes. Over time, if heat is removed, how fast will that lost heat be replaced? Only testing will provide an answer. Say, there is an equalized one degree drop from the original surrounding 500 degree rock. I think we can live with that.
@@chrisconklin2981 maybe laser would help with the pre drill , they are amazing for welding
@@RandallEnglish-nf7wq the earths core is so large its taken 4.5 billion years to cool down enough to create a solid crust only 10-50 km thick, you could have the entire planet run on geothermal energy and it would likely take tens of millions of years to use a significant amount of it.
Good to keep in mind that you are imparting kinetic energy to the propellant so doubling the exhaust velocity requires four times the energy. Unless you have efficient fusion power or beam it to a spacecraft by laser or antimatter the thrust is going to be extremely low and the acceleration time hug.
Congratulations ... very beautifully thought out ... more engines put in parallel and then a single way of escape and this can be used as a particle accelerator ... increases the particle flow will increase the current taken by accelerator ... In my idea, ionized particles are first accelerated in a circular accelerator (where the particles pass from one accelerator to another) and then are evacuated through more nozzles ... which work in parallel. My motor is a hybrid between the rocket and a accelerator...
Imagine being in a ship and walking in the engine section where the ship's power source is a fusion reactor in the shape of Helion's.
Such a futuristic and cool image!
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That's suicidal while it's running - and for a long time after it's shut down.
I read about another old somewhat similar but much simpler concept where the rocket nozzle was a thin, long cone where the walls transitioned from neutron absorbing materials to neutron reflecting materials.
When pumping a nuclear liquid salt at high pressure, a fission reaction can be maintained at the end of the nozzle for enormous specific impulse values
You seem to be referring to Bob Zubrin's NSWR: Nuclear Salt Water Reactor, which is indeed fascinating, but requires some extra complications in order to keep the neutrons in only the proper section. I have never seen that additional part described.
Removing the need for SUSTAINED CONFINEMENT at fusion conditions is a HUGE simplification on the road to PRACTICAL FUSION. Very probably, it is a _necessary simplification._
Fusion pulsed drive will come eventually. very probably in the next 10 years in my opinion.
It is worked upon, in the UK, and orbital tests are scheduled for 2027.
NASA has joined with DARPA, to provide a fission drive, which is also scheduled for orbital testing in 2027.
The SpaceAge may possibly start in 2030 A.D. From there I predict 400 years untill we go interstellar.
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Exactly! Fusion is always 10 years ahead
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Its now late 2026 since they are ahead of schedule cant wait
@@Kawka1122 we have proven it to work. their is a lab that has already used it to produce more then put in. its just a matter of upscaling and electrical efficiently. check out the video, its on youtube if you want to see, they have a video model showing how they did it.
I read about China working on them on aircraft 6 years ago about 12 years ago I was thinking about this on my own just based on plasma experiments people do in microwaves and my conclusion was material science was the only limiting factor and look at how fast we are advancing.
the energy can replace the used energy back and forth to generate power using the outage of power to reimburse that same energy
this is one of the few uses of plasma i’ve been thinking about for days, imagine my surprise to find out it’s already in use
Only in power point slides I'm so happy to live on earth and enjoy good sunshine, palm trees , ocean waves
Remember that most Tech that people grew up seeing in Star Trek has become reality.
We are more likely to see the tech from the Expanse coming true.
And it did because most engineers watched Star Trek and were inspired to create what they have seen.
I'm still waiting for the holodeck to come out 😅
@@WolfeSaberexpanse is meant to be more grounded in stuff we might see in the next 50 years
This is more Halo than Star Trek. UNSC (Human) ships use Fusion engines, and even though the Infinity uses Repulsor drives it's still technically a Fusion drive.
I like it. Please look into Viktor Schauberger's Implosion Drive Engine, also known as the Trout Drive. I believe it has a lot of potential for future propulsion. Legends say, from multiple sources, that he bolted this implosion drive down on his lab counter and it was so strong that it busted the bolts off and shot through the roof of his ceiling. I heard this happened on more than one occasion. He was later contracted (or coerced) by the Nazis to work on their exotic technologies.
Karl Schappeller was on that boat on well.
Learned from his work, loved his take on propulsion drives... And various "Black Box" projects learned and enhanced his work.
3 Names; Vril, Haunebu, Andromeda.
Implosion drive would be a good band name
When you do not think your pulsed detonation engine is too loud, build a nuclear detonation engine. You will not hear anything, not sure why.
Nuclear detonation engines rely on some kind of suspension system that would in theory cushion the explosion and allow for lower G-forces during a blast, I imagine such device would make a roar of it's own as it's suddenly compressed against the rest of the vessel, like a piston, or rather like a telescopic antenna that's being suddenly shortened... by a dynamite.
Nice comprehensive analysis. Thank you.
what about Inertial electrostatic confinement with a rotor in the middle of the plasma doughnut with A Symmetric coils that use the EM fields to rotate and internal Paltier fins to utilize the heat to generate the electricity required ?
If your generating pure-thrust, then it would be equal to a propeller on a plane, only on the electron scale. You'll need to solve the handling of braking and turns at high speeds without pasting the occupants.
This sounds (and the visual sims look) a lot like how the sub light engines in Star Wars vehicles work.
Finally I can destroy the rockets using that
I believe that the engine you mentioned is the next step for space.
Sorry it's 96 megajoule in water it can feed itselfes with power! The extra input can be an extra layer of sunpanels on the wings! And battery storage a few supercaps.
Eirex Tech for energetic cavitation
I wonder if Malcolm Bendalls research will be accepted eventually maybe he has the answer to the fuel issue for potential tech like this
Just a minute in here, but do remember that fusion needs more shielding than fission. An open fusion reaction would spew out massive amounts of radiation, so we can't use this anywhere near our own atmosphere, this would only be useful for interplanetary or interstellar propulsion,
A small group is making short burst of plasma and using in house to capture the energy ultra capacitors, what about this but in revers? For energy output
If they can pull this off that would be quite impressive
Check Out LPP Fusion.
They use turbulent flow to create the pinch and produce a plasma beam. This beam could be used for propulsion.
For energy generation the beam can be passed through an induction transformer to get electricity directly. No steam turbine. The pinch also produces a Flash of X-ray which can also be captured and turned into electricity.
I like this system as it has few moving parts, is compact, and lighter than other fusion attempts. Which means it could actually be viable as a propulsion system or energy generation system on a space craft where reliability, size, and mass are all key factors.
1st craft. Smallest payload, mostly just fuel. Leaves faint nearly undetectable matter trail of used fuel.
All following craft get tiny benefit from gathering/ramming the matter trail and ejecting it out the back
They should use subspace particles to accelerate Dilithium crystals to bend spacetime. So easy
I will not be impressed with technology until I can download a beer directly into my stomach.
Does the Helicity project involve some kind of helix pattern in the thrust? Have you taken vortex action into account?
Realy I like this video its more than interestyng
What gasses are present in the vacuum of space to ionize? And can such be forced into being present by 20-40ghz focused energy beams?
This tech WILL be viable for spacecraft propulsion, but it is in its infancy so more time and research is needed. I wonder if anyone has thought of using isomers as a power source to "spark" the plasma drive? The US Dept of Defence is looking at isomer bombs, others are looking at isomers in super batteries.
What we need is a magnetic field in the shape of a propeller rotating behind one of these rockets!
I say propeller, but the magnetic field will probably be shaped more like a jet engine turbine with some fast expanding gas/plasma.
if such a system was destroyed or broke, it seems like the heat discharge could be catastrophic.
It seems that these kinds of “new” projects pile up one on top of the other, as the previous ones are forgotten by the public and RUclipsrs as they go along, even though they've been in development for decades (but never go into production). For example, look up John Slough's FDR (fusion driven rocket).
At 400Mil Degrees you could easily make a bag of popcorn.
131 star systems are within 6 parsecs of our solar system. If such a drive works potential long term probes could make such a journey to those stars within 20-100 years. That's a huge upgrade given the two Voyager probes have been going about 40 years & haven't reached the Oort cloud yet.
1. What makes these new plasma engines better than existing xenon ion engines? They have been around since the 90s and are an established technology.
2. You mention fusion, but why is fission (radioisotope generator) not mentioned as a valid energy source here? We've been using fission for long-haul missions since voyager 1, and as recently as the Mars Curiosity rover.
1. Much higher energies = higher thrust for given mass of propellant.
2. The problem with fission in space is energy density of the generation system:
a. Voyager doesn't use fission, it uses radioactive decay. There have been a few fission experiments, mostly Soviet, but Voyager doesn't use it.
b. The problem for fission in space is that the generation side is thermal, ground based reactors have large amounts of water and atmosphere to dump the waste heat into, and are typically around 30% thermally efficient. So to get the 200MW mentioned in the video with fission, you would need a way to dump around 667MW of heat. In space this is limited to radiation of heat, as there is no atmosphere or other substance that you can use convection or conduction. Which makes this very hard.
Space is cold so that might work out on a planet , stationary somewhere.
#1; Greater thrust, but the issue arises on handling.
#2; Fusion is a trickier deal since your coalescing energy together, in a cosmic storm you can't see in space. Possible good, you get the power... Most probable bad, too much power that it'll fry all your electronics.
8 pounds of thrust per kW is much better than Dawn's propulsion which only 0.33 ounce of thrust and the spacecraft is powered by 10kW solar panels. Can this be used in space?
It can be the trust for the new start trek from the future
Goose eating his breakfast giggling...
Are the temperatures referenced kinetic or radiant? I would think they are kinetic since it is more about the energy in the particle rather than the radiated measurement of temperature.
Anything with a nuclear reactor (fission or fusion) currently has size/weight limitations.
One of the benefits of plasma drives is the long, slow acceleration provided so you are getting a 'felt' sense of gravity (acceleration) vs chemical engines bursts and glides. Provided thrust is not great but if you can accelarate for half the trip then decelerate on second half, you can greatly reduce travel times.
This is a video full of colours.
I feel like listening to a Barbie propulsion système with my little poney at the helm :)
It wouldn't require a fusion reactor. A regular fission reactor would do just as well.
You need to look at it in a different way. Truly take the warp coil it introduced that energy into the coil creating a magnetic field around the craft to bend time and space think it’s going to be really difficult to keep worse to sustain a bubble vacuum, but it is possible to create a vortex which is a window from one dimension to another
The folly of all conventional fusion rockets is their over reliance on plasma made by fusion fuels. The plasma simply has not enough mass to be a viable alternative to a fission thermal rocket or particle beam propulsion. High thrust requires a lot of mass so you'll need a way to make sure that you insert extra propellent into the plasma. I think it's common knowledge that this is hard to do unless you greatly increase the complexity of the drive. Another important factor is radiation. Much of a fusion reaction's energy comes in the form of neutron and x-ray radiation. It's enough to vaporise any unprotected system near the plasma. A far more efficient alternative is pulsed fusion power. Take an orion drive, remove the pusher plate and install a (non ablative)heat shield instead. For a pusher plate, you activate a strong magnetic field just above the shield. Instead of nuclear bombs, we use fusion fuel encased in a ball of frozen water or something similar. At around 300 meters away from the craft, the fuel pellets are targeted by a laser. The temperature is enough to make the reaction happen and a large cloud of plasma appears. All of that plasma slams into the magnetic field and creates thrust. All in all, you have low complexity, no need for radiators and better efficiency.
So as it seems this would be something like pulse type of engines on Star Trek ships? Nice, aside from Alcubierre's warp drive this is second thing that goes into Star Trek direction.
Best batteries are 20 times less energy dense than jet fuel like you said but also dont get the huge advantage of getting lighter as its burned like a chemical fuel
We can use fission reactors to produce enough energy.
How can we invest in this?
Wondering if solar sheets can produce the power needed to keep feeding the plasma or make use of solar storms 🤔so much to think of and endless possibilities
Could some planetary magnetic fields be used in assistance? Somehow I get image of magnetic ramjet
That's "Magnetohydrodynamic" territory. None of the big space agencies will ever touch that subject. (Because it works)
i don't think it matters. the problem realistically is with source of power, not with methods of creating exhaust. a man named Robert Enzmann proposed using particle accelerators to drive his proposed echolance starship. this ship was supposed to achieve up to near lightspeed without any substantial new tech. realistically, just strap a steam turbogenerator onto a standard nuclear reactor, and you should have far more than what is needed to get to mars in 39 days. more power means more vasimir scale ability.
An improvement in space travel, amazing development.
But inefficient. Privately, it's already been done.
Publicly, we're given scraps.
@@lumberlucion plasma thrusters seem to be the way to go in space... expanding on successful future developments.
@@joependleton6293 But its terrible.
"Requires 200 kW electrical power to produce 5 N of thrust, or 40 kW/N"
"Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket (VASIMR)" may seem like an excellent choice, but your facing another drawback; Its handling is terrible, and you haven't created your own gravity well.
If they try to utilise the Thrust generated by Plasma to drive a Turbine blade to create kinetic energy and they make a commercial gain from that product then I will see them in Court. I pattented that technology a few years ago.
Evidence? 😊
@@dalehill6127 if you struggle to find it head to the website and click on the picture of the reactor and it will take you to the Patent
@@dalehill6127 my replies aren't showing up for me. Typical from the fathers of censorship at Google.
Not much as I'm asking for evidence, more like asking did you make a business out of it?
@@lumberluc I've just finished 3D printing the first prototype. Although I still have a lot of auxiliary parts to make including a vacuum chamber to mount it in and a Marx generator to supply the current.
they had the concept in the 1950 or earlier the impulsed was though to gain 10% of the speed of light but using atomic detonation pules there was also a jet intake model proposed that pulled in the suns exhaled plasma(which travels around 10 % the speed of light) and projectile vomited it out through several thrust increasing chambers to a theorized speed close to that of light ,so yeah its got lots of possibility in space why would you want to in the atmosphere fire a ball of plasma at high speed at some object em disturbing pretty colours
No, if we cannot build a plasma fusion reactor, we cannot build a fusion drive either. First you need to be able to extract energy from the drive to provide the power needed to create the conditions for plasma, sustain the plasma & provide magnetic confinement to protect the engine from getting destroyed by the very hot plasma.
For storage of hydrogen as hydride, (Yb3H8), remains the highest hydride of ytterbium. Utilizing the diamond anvil cell methodology. This is a good fuel storage technique of value even for supersonic jets that presently carry more than 25,0000 liters of fuel for a single journey.
We all know that UAP's don't use Plasma Engines. Because there is no propellant at all. So they should dich all of this and research the technologies that will actually get man kind somewhere.
Yes, but we haven't got there yet to utilise zero-point energy and drives based on it (officially). This is best we got so far but it's an improvement nonetheless.
@@stevannikolovski have you seen ex NASA scientist Dr. Charles Buhler and his team are called Exodus. They are working on propulsion without any propellant. They claim that the team already managed to achieve over 1G of thrust in Vacuum meaning, things can actually levitate even in Earth's gravity.
Darn even uses a redstone flux power supply!
A very confused mashup of ideas that don't go together.
Wish other tech shows could match your excellent animations!
And now to wait and see who first manages to weaponize it...
Well if that happens , investment will increase 1000% , and it will advance 100x.
My bets is 50 years before tech like this is used, viable yes but would take a while before we can fully use it.
Anything can cost less if its made in Abundance. The High cost of creating a new system like this is mitigated way down the line when it become commonplace.
Энергия квант - фотона зависит сильно от частоты. У красного и фиолетового одинаковая скорость но разная энергия по частоте. отсюда следует, что скорость ограничена только проводимостью среды, а у квант - фотона, уже скорость превышает "с", и природа превышение "с" переносит на частоту. Частота 1/t главная составляющая время. Превысив частоту, изменится время и скорость.
Almost 400k subs. Congratulations! Love the channel and so much better than Sabine Hossenfelder. I like that you speak about the science without injecting the far left politics of her channel. Thanks!
We've never even been to the moon tho 💀
You make a nuclear powered airplane and problem solved.
Small modular reactors (SMRs) range from 20 to 300 megawatts and they are 100 to 1000 times smaller than their bigger counterparts.
6 pounds per kilowatt means you can have 120,000 to 1,800,000 pounds of thrust consistently for about 7 years straight...
I need this for my car.
I don’t think fusion will ever be viable to produce net energy, but for relativistic (fraction of light speed) deep space propulsion it could be very powerful 🚀
They have all failed on earth but we haven't tried in orbit
Yeah, but imagine the pulse is high energy frequency, and it's really rapidly firing off
If you fuse a photonic plasma wouldn’y hurt….plus is sending a volt similar to lightning bolt fine a photonic plasma it could act as a conducting electric line for wireless energy transferring maybe anyways
I think that this will begin of something new as in out of this we can understand more about the working of plasma and a new system will amerge from it
I’m sorry but you’re greatly mistaken you don’t only require fuel for a turbo generator you need oxygen to burn the fuel and a great deal of it. A fission reactor to generate the power for the plasma Fusion Drive is the most practical way currently
I think a microwave enhanced diode array laser with pulsing magnetic field to compress the flow where small amounts of ??? (maybe iron and hydrogen or carbon and hydrogen) are turned into plasma by the MASER could be fuel and energy efficient enough for long duration space travel.. A solar array to power this in the inner planetary zone would be large but not unrealistic as would a solar furnace.. A small to medium sized nuclear molten salt reactor running an ammonia vapor turbine would not be overly large as a primary or backup power source..
All these different engine ideas are great, but im hearing that they not so good in Earth's atmosphere. So when are they going to run space tests?
Oh thats right, its too expensive to launch anything into space so those prototypes will never get there.
Is there any news on new launching systems to get craft into space?
Tech Planet, If plasma power only needs a power supply, then this power source is possible right now. The project is unfunded, but the concept could deliver Mega-watts in a super small package ~ 1 Mega-watts for just 70 lbs. Power is developed using QED principles. Let me know if you're interested. -e
If it’s low thrust you still need chemical launch rockets
After that only space bending.
This is still only about 13% of light speed. We'll need a lot more to do much of anything outside our own solar system without generational ships.
I want a new drive that replaces chem rockets. Until that day we still need to use primitive conventional rockets to get all these fancy new toys into space.
I see it in Sci-Fi all the time. It's not like they don't know what we need. They just don't know how to make one practical.
I think you can make a hydrogen ion engine using microwaves at 1kw that would be more powerful than vasimir. This could be done with a stable self contained plasmoid and linear accelerator.
Hmm... Thomas Townsend Brown got the drive down even better. If your using hydrogen instead of kerosene, it would need to have a methodology of capacitively carrying negative-ions to be recycled into a feedback loop system, and propel the craft.
He was using high-voltage, and could produce 0.1 Newton of force at 5 watts. Formula: 2,000 Newtons for every Kilowatt.
His "Project Winterhaven" was what we were suppose to have in the 50s.
Propulsion is only one big problem that wants a solution, if mankind wants to visit at least the interesting part of our little solar system. Is anyone even trying to develop a real-time comm-system or is it okay for you, when you get into trouble, the time sensitive kind of trouble and need to hold the line for just another 2 day to maybe get a response or next maybe when the crew is no longer with us.
It is more than viable it will be used in the next 50 years
any nuclear reactor which has infinite propellant, as millions times more energy storage density over conventional rocket fuels. yes even fission reactors. like photon radiation drive.
another form of power of motion would be a "gravity field" generator, it's not far from electromagnetic energy,,, a thought,,,😎😎😎
في المستقبل البعيد وبفضل التكنولوجيا المتقدمة سوف يتساوى الخيال مع الواقع ويمتلك الإنسان قوى الآلهة ليحول الكون والأكوان المتعددة إلى جنة خالدة ❤
Sounds cool
Bye bye fission and combustion, hello fusion.
You have solved half the puzzle, plasma needs thrust and using turbine is inefficient; by using frequency to thrust plasma will derive efficiency, feel the thrust from a simple speaker at low frequency...get the feeling?
Half or less for this gent. He forgot the Bloch Wall frequency. Once that frequency is hit, your free.
Lasers don't produce a sustained fusion reaction.
The best it'll provide is a charged Fuel-Source. But even then, it's decay rate accelerates the fuel's decay rate.
What if you use alpha radiation? To have a dense form of atoms but decaying into more atoms? Heck even Radon and Xenon.
Maybe a deeper look into WARP FIELD THEORY may be our saving grace going to Jupiter in a few seconds...
This might as well be an Asimov short story.
Air breathing plasma thruster is a dead idea because it requires so much electricity that is nearly impossible to generate without a nuclear reactor on board. And if we have a nuclear reactor on board it's a better idea to heat the air using the heat of a nuclear reaction rather than use bulky steam turbines and generators to turn the heat of a nuclear reaction into electricity and then turn it back into heat using microwaves.
Deuterium? Now they just need some anti-deuterium and a few dilithium crystals...
The answer to the question in the title is: "No, not at all."