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one factory can produce all the variants because it is more minor differences , on the factory line level, that can be produced, also the F-35 is not meant to dogfight the F-35 is meant to see and shoot first
You've seen how the airplanes and jets are stored in the carrier when the F18 came up the elevator from when you watched and did that documentary reaction video with the ship of U.S.S. Ronald Reagan
A lot of people talk about how part of the reason it's so expensive is that parts of it are made in 45 out of 50 states. But few people talk about why this is done. Its the reason why we only have under 180 F-22s instead of the planned 750 its the reason why we only have 20 B-2s instead of the planned 132. Because every time a program gets more expensive than planned or undergoes problems which almost all programs have some sort of development problems, they get cut short before it has a chance to mature properly and have all of their capabilities realized. People hate on the F-35 today because its the first plane to be developed during the age of social media. Now every time it has the slightest hangup in production or development it gets pounced on by the media. People forget how often the F-16 crashed in its early days so much it gained the nickname "lawn dart", the F/A-18C Hornet was called "Fat, slow, and without a mission" by one media outlet, the F-22 Raptor had several years in its development where it wasn't flying at all while they figured out the flight software but now those planes are some of the most respected in the world.
Socia Media exposes what it all actually boils down to. Government sanctioned welfare, same as food stamps etc, except multiplied by billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars. I country building 50 drones that carry 30 missles or ? is better off than building 1 F-35 that carries 6. Dont get me started on the actual win loss ratios previous jets have achieved, only to be deemed obsolete so we can add more welfare checks to newer jets like the bloated & unnecessary F-35, ill be here all day. Btw Ace Combat 7 with a Thrustmaster HOTAS setup is tha bomb YO!
No, I think that people hate on the F-35 because of test pilots who say that it is slow, fat, and useless. the only thing it's good at is stealth, and that's a dubious advantage against Russian air defense systems. It is stupid to build a plane for the Navy/Marines and the Air Force. Catapults require tougher airframes than the Air force needs. They should have made two different planes that shared as many parts as possible if they are that worried about cost and exchangeability.
I dont hate the F-35, I hate the fact its 100 % obsolete, overpriced, & unnecessary in this modern day setting, yet gets a pass cause of politics & such. As a jet though, it looks cool, still not on the same league as the extra pointy SAAB Gripen that costs fractions less lol.@@michaelgolisch1081
Read my comments above for the complete picture but for a conversation starter, our jets we have now, F-18, F-16, etc, win / loss ratios are damn near perfect as is. These engineers & contractors keep pushing a narrative, we need steath, other countries are surpassing us in this or that, without tangible results proving it. Its like winning the superbowl, then getting rid of those players & coaches the nxt yr, claiming someone else is surely gonna win it nxt season, unless they get new players & coaches. Its ludicrous. Not only that, but with these missle systems we have in place, & our "extra stealthy / far reaching" drone tech, why on earth are we still adding machine guns on these modern day jets? Why do we need jets that look cool pulling acrobatic moves at airshows, yet would never be used in actual long range missle exchanges? Dont get me wrong, I love fighter jets, but facts are facts, dogfighting to win wars or solve conflicts, is laugable at this point, yet the welfare machine keeps churning. . . @@michaelgolisch1081
@@steynfnstr_photography the other fighter aircraft were F-16s F/A-18s, and F-15s. The F-35 updated software that limited maneuverability to allow more angle and more thrust. The way its so maneuverable is because of its weight balance and the turbulence its body creates when it creates lift that rolls over the wings and adds more pressure. It ended up obliterating other aircraft in dogfights which is partly why it's being so sought after
@@steynfnstr_photography The pilot that talked about this said in any other fighter getting a 2-1 kill ratio in red flag used to be considered phenomenal.
From what I understand, the powerful computer and integrated sensors alone of the F-35 make it an incredibly valuable asset for any military forces. It essentially creates a virtual battlefield using the F-35's own powerful radar and sensors, combined with data from other platforms such as other aircraft, ships, tanks, ground radar, and even soldiers on the ground providing sensor data into a single comprehensive map of the battlefield that the F-35 can use to direct the most effective means of accomplishing the mission at hand, whether that means the F-35 itself attacking, or directing other platforms (fighters, bombers, tanks, ships, or ground troops) where and how to best eliminate targets. It has been said that a single F-35 teamed up with a squadron of 4th Gen aircraft can significantly improve their own odds of success. This is something that a F-16 could never do, despite being a very good multi-role fighter.
This is the main reason it's so highly praised despite some potential shortcomings. When it's fully operational and using all of this crazy tech it doesn't need to dogfight planes as it will be able to engage them before any potential enemy threat even knows they are there.
@@xJ0LLYR0GERx Indeed. Or just have another platform do the job if it would be more effective, while providing precise targeting data to its effective extension. A Friendly Wingman project modified UCAV F-16 variant squadron teamed up with a single manned F-35 could be scary. It could just send the UCAV F-16s in to do the job, or possibly have the F-16s act as a distraction while the F-35 sneaks in to do it.
When you control the plane its the pilot telling the computer to do this & that. Then the computer does the magic of moving the plane. I think that how it works?
@@comradesusiwolf1599 That is more true for Stealth aircraft due to flight instabilities introduced by the Stealth shape characteristics, and also perhaps technically somewhat for Fly-by-Wire aircraft controls that aren't connected to the control surfaces by hydraulic systems. That's still a hard argument to make for merely Fly-by-Wire aircraft that are only electrically connected to the servos that control the flight surfaces. In an aircraft like the F-22, the computer is actually doing the flying due to those previously mentioned flight instabilities requiring second to second adjustments, in which case the pilot is just directing the aircraft with computer assistance.
the Norwegian Air Force has gotten some of these, and seeing them Weave through the Fjords i live in is a sight to behold. they can turn so incredibly easily inbetween the mountains and Fjord arms it makes me wonder "how much further do we need to take this?" or "how far can this actually be taken? waht hights might we reach next?" it's truly insane.
@Atheos B. Sapien hahaha, maybe. but i doubt that. but it would be cool tho! in Empyrion Galactic survival i made a ship called the "NCAS NordFjord" that is like a childhood dream of mine made manifest in the game haha. NCAS stands for "Norwegian Coalition Aerial Space marines"
@@LeviBulger it is indeed incredible to see it. if you ever go on vacation to Norway then i will be more than happy to give you the best locations to go to in the vast Fjords of Norway haha!
Japan has an "aircraft carrier" that only uses helicopters (no run way) but they bought F-35B and are now planning to launch them of that in 2023 when they get them
@@fanfeck2844 Yes, they already gluged one in the North Sea. I know it's cheaper, but it's not that good of a system. Jump jets and a ramped bow. No thanks.
On a carrier there's actually a elevator that stores the jets in side. Actually see this when I was kid on the USS Kitty Hawk with my dad when he was one of the fire fighters on the ship. Those F14 Tom Cats look beautiful
it is made for bvr (beyond visual range) combat meaning it can spot targets far away without being spotted and in this form of combat it has a 78 to 1 kill/death ratio against other american planes such as the f 16 sidenote: the f 35 is also meant to do a variety of missions such as close air support and bombing runs.
What I think a lot of people don't realize is that when ANY aircraft turns on it's radar and starts scanning it becomes visible. Even the F35. Moderns fighters use RWR radar warning receivers. The second the F35 scans across an enemy plane the RWR absorbs some of the radar waves and points in the general direction of the 35 allowing the enemy pilot to focus his radar into that patch of sky and flip through different modes and settings. There's a lot more to it than that but I think a lot of people don't realize stealth gets significantly weakened the second the aircraft turns on its own radar.
@@TexasGreed Also to add to Tobilike's reply, AWACS and other long range radars can be used to relay information back to the F-35 from a safe distance during a mission. That way the F-35 can limit it's radar usage and take advantage of it's stealth capabilities. Fighter jets never fly alone on a mission. Also I'm pretty sure that during deep infiltration missions where an AWACS can't follow and ground targets are the objective, satellites can be used to feed information back to the bombers/ fighter jets.
@@TexasGreed stealth doesn’t get weakened by turning on your radar, the purpose of stealth isn’t to not get detected, but to not get targeted. a turned on radar can give a general direction from RWR, just like a L band radar could, but obv cannot give a targeting solution. It would allow you to refine your radar’s scanning like you said, yes, but it likely wouldn’t be enough.
You know, the F-22 wasn't always so amazing. It took 15 years before they ironed all the bugs out, and it had some nasty ones. It even had a problem with leaking gasses into the cockpit. Really fun for pilots.
I heard it was an out gassing from the materials the oxygen system leaking toxic fumes. It almost killed the program early. I'm glad they figured it out.
@@karlthedogwithakar98k95 Perhaps, but wouldn't that mean they'd have to build/restart a whole assembly line for that purpose which would cost a lot more? Just asking cause I thought that's one of the reasons F-22's aren't produced anymore, cause the assembly line would need a very sizeable investment to get it back up and running again.
Long ago as a young man, I was assigned as Air Force security at Osan Air Base in South Korea. While cruising around the air strip in a truck with my partner, we sensed something going on behind an aircraft bunker. We parked and climbed on top of the earthen berm that surrounded all of these bunkers. Two Marine pilots in harriers (very uncommon as they were not stationed there and visiting) were starting up a dance contest, with the cover of the berms. (Surely they'd be punished if seen by highers.) As we watched, they took turns dancing their harriers to show off their skills to each other. They dipped and bounded, turned and spun. It was amazing. I feel privileged to have seen it.
4 (3 on Ford class) aircraft elevators around the ship can take planes to and from the hangars below deck. If you're looking at the flight deck you can see where the elevators are because they are usually roped off and have a yellow and red dashed line outlining them. I'm sure there are plenty of videos showing the planes going up and down on the elevators to get to the deck for launch.
F22 is still the dogfighting air superiority platform, f35 is multi roll, and they use large elevators to move the planes down below deck into hangars under the deck
@@frankcrawford416 Multi-role : Jack Of All Trades, master of none. Like relying on a Swiss Army Knife when you can't find the proper tool in the truck.
F-35A's empty weight, wing area, and engine's thrust target are based on 1.5X scaling from F16C Block 50. F-35C has different design parameters. F-35C rivals F-22A's low wing loading, but F-35C doesn't have F-22A's engine thrust to weight ratio. Engine upgrade program for F-35C is important.
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When I was in the Marines many years ago. I was an ejection seat mechanic on F4-S aircraft. I sure am jealous of today aircraft abilities. Personally I’m looking forward to seeing what is already in development to replace the F35. One thing I do know. Lockheed skunkworks puts out some crazy stuff
Great video. Just found the channel a few days ago. Not a military nut and I have no love for America but I really enjoyed your presentation style my friend. Tervitus.
@@xGoodOldSmurfehx Well no... they have aircraft carriers... Marines deploy forward where we don't have air bases. The F-35C for the Navy has a strengthened landing gear and larger wings that fold.
A Danish Air Force test pilot was one of the 2 or 3 test pilots that did most of the pilot work on this project. He lived at Edwards AFB in California for many years
You said you wanted to hear more info. Here it is. The Harrier and the F-32 took the main jet engine exhaust and split it into 4 exhaust ports, each exhaust port acting like a leg on a table. The 2 front exhaust ports bounced off the ground and went back into the intakes of the main engine, making the engine flame out. Russia made their VTOL aircraft, the Yak-38, hover by turning the main jet engine exhaust down to hold the rear of the aircraft up. The front half of the aircraft was held up by a propeller inside the fuselage. In order to hover, a door opened up above the propeller and air was sucked in by the propeller. The propeller exhaust was not heated up at all and could be sucked into the engine intakes without harm. After the Yak-38 was retired from service in 1991, Yakovlev and Lockheed-Martin entered into a partnership to further develop Vertical Take-off and Landing aircraft together. This is how Lockheed-Martin obtained their knowledge of VTOL aircraft. The F-35 used the same system as the Yak-38 and used the main engine to hold up the rear half of the plane and a propeller to hold up the front half. Using the helmet in the F-35 allows you to look straight down at the floor and see the ground directly under you. When you look around in the cockpit the helmet can make the entire airplane seem to disappear around you and all you see is sky. That's why the helmet costs so much. The F-35 is superior in air-to-air combat with the F-16 in every way. The video states the the F-35 test pilot lost more airspeed in a turning dogfight with an F-16 and the F-16 finally won. That is true, BUT, the test pilot was flying a stripped down test F-35 that did not have it's full combat capabilities installed, as stated in the video. In that particular dogfight the F-35 was forbidden to use any BVR capabilities or missiles it had. After the test pilot reported his findings, the F-35 aircraft computer was programmed to out fly and out turn the F-16. Whenever an F-16 flies formation with an F-35 now, the F-16 pilots say they can't keep up with the F-35 in cruise and must regularly use after burner so they don't fall behind. FYI, the F-35, with 43,000 pounds of thrust, has the most powerful engine ever put in any fighter in the world. When the video was put out Lockheed-Martin had just produced the 50th F-35. Lockheed-Martin has now produced over 750 F-35s. Production rate over the next several years will be about 14 F-35s per month at a cost of about $77 million per aircraft. Most countries will pay much more because the costs of 30 years of fuel, maintenance and upgrades for 30 years, pilot and ground training, and armament are all included in the price for other countries. It normally ends up in the $130 million to $170 million dollar price tag per plane. That is cheaper than an F-15EX, Gripen, SU-35, Chinese J-20, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Rafale. That is why every country in the market for a new fighter is happy to pay less money for a better fighter. The F-35B version makes it possible for some nations (Japan, UK) to use their helicopter ships as aircraft carriers, without having to spend billions on a large aircraft carrier.
I think you misunderstood the idea of total-cost-of-ownership. Lockheed does not charge them for fuel and armament (etc.), but the countries have to budget for that when they buy one.
@@michaelrunnels7660 The country buys the jet for a price. Let's say for argument $100M. They budget for 200 hours of flight per year, at, say $30,000 per hour. $6M per year. They budget $1M per year for ordinance You have an expected lifespan of 20 years. Your total cost of ownership (exclusive of labor) is now $100+($6x20)+($1x20) = $240M Airplane manufacturers don't pay for the user's fuel or ammunition, but the buyer needs to budget for it. That being said, it is possible that they are billing for expected major maintenance and upgrades. But never fuel and ordinance.
@@Radmonkeyboy I assume that these fuel and weapons costs are added in when they say the F-35 is x amount of dollars total. Is this done with the Eurofighter or the Rafael, or is their published purchase price just the basic jet?
B2's are rather amazing even flying low. I watched one approach at an airshow. It looked like a sliver in the sky and, because the engine noise is directed behind as well, it was rather silent until it flew overhead. When overhead it was loud and looked to be the size of a city block. Rather amazing. I also saw an f-22 which was rather amazing in it's performance. There were either F-18's or F-16's that felt as well. They did a circle (360 turn) and they were awesome flying an amazingly tight turn. Then they flew over slow and accelerated in full afterburner. They looked fast. The F-22 then did the same maneuvers and turned in 1/2 the radius and when it accelerated it pulled straight up and seemed to accelerate like a rocket.
@@DyvmSlorm The rudder conbtrol on the (simulated) F22 is mind blowing. When you said "The F-22 then did the same maneuvers and turned in 1/2 the radius and when it accelerated it pulled straight up and seemed to accelerate like a rocket." You can see how it's turning radius at ultra-low speeds makes it such a massive threat.
The F-35 is a very polarizing plane: people either love it or hate it, and I've heard very convincing arguments form both sides. This is not uncommon for any new military equipment. Just look at the Bradley. I think it comes down to the way people look at it. On paper it's not as fast or maneuverable or high altitude or carries a big payload as many of the legacy planes. These are the hard factors: the trading card and video game stats. But there are also soft factors: how pilot friendly it is, the maintenance to flight ratio, logistics and supply, compatibility with war doctrine; these are the things not apparent by looking at a statistics display. I was initially against the F-35, but despite a rocky start it has been steadily climbing the ranks in the soft factors, to the point where I can appreciate it for what it is. In spite of what many say, war is *always* changing. It constantly mutates and evolves; and tactics, equipment, and doctrine must change too else risk becoming obsolete. Today's battlefields are far different from those of the 1910s, 40s, or 60s. Nowadays technology is evolving at an exponential rate. The teen-series are fantastic at what they're built to do, but they were designed with the idea of a war in the 80s, and there's only so far upgrades can get you. I truly believe that in the rapidly changing face of warfare today, a plane that can operate in any scenario you throw at it is the way to go. Anyway those are my two cents.
F-35 has actually turned out to be a surprisingly successful program, and an incredibly capable aircraft. It has most certainly had serious teething issues through development and manufacturing but today it is unquestionably the king of the skies for air combat.
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When they did the Red Flag exercise where they have a simulated large scale air war against an aggressor force based on usually Russian tactics and airplanes they usually ended up with a kill ratio of 2-2.5-1 which was considered very respectable. When they did the Red Flag with F-35s they came back with a mind boggling kill ratio of 78-1. There’s a great podcast I think called the fighter pilot podcast on RUclips that anyone who is interested in military aviation should listen to. The F-35 one is particularly interesting.
For perspective, that kill ratio means that a single F35 could solo an entire US carrier battle group (if you discount the helicopters, which I do because if 78 fighter aircraft couldn’t take it then helicopters are just bugs on the F35’s windshield.)
On the Aircraft Carrier decks there are elevators where a plane will stand on and be lowered into the storage areas. The elevator platforms are outlined with Red and Yellow stripped paint
7:34 usually when planes age out, and back in the day even some older warships, they get sold to countries around the world. I know during the Falklands war the Argentine navy used american old fletcher class destroyers from WW2, id imagine they'd sell off the F16's if they retired them
Also, a lot of 'obsolete' but still functional military hardware gets seconded the the National Guard of the several states. I suspect a lot of f16s will find there way to the Air National Guards.
Artur good morning, the F-35 was built as "Jack of all trades". I believe in task dedicated platforms. The F-22 is an air superiority, fighter. The A-10 is ground and pound air craft second to none. The F-35 does not have the ability to loiter due to high fuel consumption and not an air superiority aircraft due characteristics. Thanks for your work.
@@rooiflitz I get where you're coming from, fam. But the A-10 hasn't been used for its original purpose almost since it first rolled off the production line. We don't plan to use it for tank-busting. Modern tanks are way too good for that. And it's certainly not gonna be the first aircraft you send in to destroy AA targets; leave that to the stealth fighters. It's Close Air Support first, and also happens to have enough hardpoints to carry anti-tank missiles in case they are needed. You are right though, they are increasingly vulnerable to the modern battlefield, and have been responsible for an unacceptable amount of friendly fire. I do still have high hopes for the new gen of A-10s though. Supposedly the upgrades are going to be substantial enough that the Army and the Air Force aren't terribly concerned about its capability and survivability on the modern battlefield. It's definitely a "yeah the A-10 isn't as amazing as everyone thinks" but also a "we'll have to see on the next gen A-10s." Here's hoping the super A-10s turn out to be exactly what the Army hopes. It would be a real shame if they end up with the same issues plaguing older aircraft.
The 35 is a dog fighter on steroids. Its true maneuvering capability is not shown at airshows. That knowledge can get pilots killed and is really not good policy showing the enemy everything.
@@rooiflitz One thing I will mention is that the A-10's friendly fire rate is based on total missions, not incidents by number of sorties; when measured by that, it's actually about even with most other craft, and it's merely the incredibly large number of COIN sorties that have been responsible for that number.
@@rooiflitz the A-10 still shreds light armor and artillery/infantry with the cannon and tank busts with air to ground missiles and smart bombs. Russian BMPs will still get shredded
When you have a weapon system that is old but still kicks butt it never goes away. The B-52 Bomber was developed over 70 years ago but they keep making it better. They just keep making planes better as long as they have the money. The F-15 is older than the F-16 but the F-15E and F-15S can do what the F-16s can do but better.
F-16 was specifically built to be a smaller, less expensive version of the F-15. But they found that it's weight allowed it to also be extremely maneuverable (even more so than the F-15).
Rolls- royce in Indianapolis, Indiana is building the engines for the B-52 modernization. The B-52 will also get systems upgrades to make them 21st century aircraft.
My home country Denmark has talked about selling them in 2024 to other countries since they are in high demand as they are in good condition after over 40 years of service. And Denmark will have 27 F-35 in 2024
"Denmark will have 27 F-35 in 2024!" Wrong. Six of the F-35´s purchased by Denmark will remain in the USA as trainers. The other 21 35´s will be only sufficient to replace just one of the two Danish squadrons of F-16´s. With the new developments in Ukraine it´s doubtful if Denmark is ever going to sell it´s F-16´s. It seems that preparations for the sale has been put on hold. This has actually been foreseen and is not coming as a surprise. Denmark has usely flights of F-16´s based on Iceland and in the Baltic region to protect the airspace of these countries. One could argue that the use of F-35´s for these tasks is needless overkill.
Recently The US and RAAF were having Military co-ops in Darwin . My friend was filming the F-35's fly around the Airport from his hi Rise Tower Unit. I actually though they were Remote Controlled . The filming was at a distance and quite fast . But then I realised these F-35's are very acrobatic and did some some impressive twists and turns ,climbs and dives
Old planes get expensive to maintain when more and more parts start aging and breaking. that is why for example finland will not use old planes when they get F-35
Torm, I think what you're talking about is airframe fatigue. The F35 has a 100,000 hour initial life, after that the airframe will be assessed and future life span will be determined by its in life "g" loading and variant type. It may well get a further 100,000 hour life. All of this though is irrelevant in time of war because the life span will be short due to combat. The projected life span in peace time is to give customers a reliable weapons platform into the future and a superior aircraft should hostilities begin.
Finnish airforce btw already answered your question. What happens to old planes depends on the flight hours on said planes. We are going to sell some parts for spares and scrap the rest as the frames already are close to their flight hour limits. Obviously if you have less hours, then you can sell them or put them in the storage.
I used to work in the military industrial complex. A small part of what I did included the F-35 project. It is a decade or more ahead of any other fighter in the world. It will hit the enemy and the enemy will have no idea what happened- which is what today's modern air forces need, rather than have aircraft specialized in dog fighting- which very rarely happens. The tech is updated for production every production run- and even in already existing planes, which get updated as better tech comes out. the F-16's will be sold off...
purely technical question, wouldn't it be more cost-efficient to invest in top notch ground to air defenses if you are in a defensive postion, considering that on dog fights it isn't the best and the cost of both getting it and mantaining is so massive in comparison with other aircraft and air defenses
@@dimitrivavoulis2184 sometimes the best defense is offense. From a standpoint of a NATO nation facing Russia, the F35 outclasses anything Russia has, so fewer more advanced aircraft is cheaper and easier to maintain, than a larger fleet in the long run. I’d rather have a strike force of 10 F35’s over 30 or more F16’s… you need air superiority to maintain a defensive position, and the F35 is a better choice than simply a defensive battery of SAMs…
@@stevemcgowen Well put, at the end of the day you need your pilots to fly, to get experience and train the use of the aircraft, so it is better to have less more capable aircraft than a large fleet that either rusts or stays in the ground most of the time. There is also the fact that EW aircraft always tend to accompany combat aircraft when engaging over contested airspace to protect them from ground based weapon systems, which we saw used to great effect during the air campaign in Iraq in the First Gulf War.
The F35 had a bad development but they ironed it out and turned it into a great multi platfrom jet. The F22 is still my favorite though. But we will never get our hands on those puppies lol.
Aircraft Carriers actually have a pretty interesting system to stow away their aircraft when they're not in use. After landing, a plane can taxi to a certain spot of the flight deck that actually has an elevator built into it. So the aircraft gets lowered down the side of the ship and parked in the hangar below decks.
In WWII, Federal agents were posted in Radio City Music Hall because of the elevator systems used to ferry acts from the basement to the concert stage. It actually used the same mechanics as would be used on the aircraft carriers in the Pacific fleet.
The F-16 C/D models are approaching their maximum flight time in the US. Metal fails eventually, and these planes are not long for the world. Still, there will be a very active market for used F-16s. And you're right. F-16s are still an extremely potent threat in the air. Even today, the F-16V "Viper" is equal to Rafale, Gripen, and Eurofighter, IMO.
Yeah the Foxbat. Monster engines that could giddyup to mach 2.5, before burning out. I saw a picture taken in Iraq of Americans digging out a Mig-25 from the sand buried by Saddam’s troops. He hid lots of things.
He's wrong about the F35 being a "jack of all trades" F35's primary function is data aggregation/analysis/and dissemination. Basically, it is a stealthy AWACS that can fight. Situational awareness is the F35's purpose and this is why so many other countries have purchased them. Even if you have no other 5th gen, now all your 4th gen platforms are better because they can all talk to and transmit data back and forth with all other platforms through the F35. Say you have a ground radar, an F35, a Eurofighter Typhoon and a F15 Eagle. The ground radar can't talk to the Eagle or Typhoon, but it can talk to the F35 which can translate its data in a way that both the Eagle and Typhoon can understand, even though they can't understand each other. Now, ALL my platforms can talk and add their sensor data to the digital picture and can do so at the speed of a supercomputer. On top of that, F35 is a terrifying sensor platform itself. The pilot can see through the jet in thermal and IR spectrums, that same system is constantly looking 360 degrees for anything like a distant missile flare or glint of sunlight off fuselage. So it's like having an unblinking, always hyper-aware sentry that can see in 360 degrees. Plus, that's a passive system, so it doesn't compromise stealth at all to use it. Add to that the AESA and other sensors and then the fact that F35 can transmit this data to everyone on the battlefield, land, sea, or air with no need for a satellite access. It just so happens that it is also pretty good at being a stealth air-superiority fighter, ground attack craft, strike aircraft, interceptor etc. etc. etc. because it comes in three flavors: A, B, and C which all excel in different areas. F35 B cannot VTOL with anything other than minimal weapons and fuel. It is primarily a STOVL aircraft, which can VTOL on it's return to the carrier which is pretty nifty.
Your BEST videos tend to be your non-military videos. It's a lot more fun to hear your music, learn about your life and/or life in Estonia, and the history of Estonia. I don't mind the military ones, just hope you don't do too many of them.
If you want a dog fighter, go f22 or og with f16, f15, f18. If you want something where you can detect something far away and down it before they know you are there, go f-35. F22 is also good at this
Decommissioned planes can either be sold or put in the military reserves. And yes there are some jets the citizens in the USA can purchase themselves for private use. My great grandfather had one from the soviet Era. He was a Hugh ranking officer back then but started out as a tank driver in the Korean War. He eventually became some kind of pilot and got a piloting license. He even survived a crash during wartime and had metal rods put in his back. My favorite story of his is how he got his Purple Heart medal. He said he had been shot a couple times and ran through live fire to rescue 7 other fellow soldiers and carried them to safety while being shot. He still has some shrapnel in him from it you can stick magnets on parts of his body.
Replacing the A-10 is just ridiculous…. 🙄 The A-10 replacement needs its own design that betters the A-10 by a lot. Yeah, I’ve seen the footage of the F-35 and it’s canon doing ground pounding and people calling it “the baby burrrrrrttt!” etc., they can shoehorn the role into a F-35 but making it a flying tank, no… It needs its own design.
@@ngurahpradnyadiptha3026 Yeah but a “very VERY light bomber” (what does the F-35 carry, two whole JDAM’s?) isn’t the solution. We need a hardcore ground-pound plane like the A-10 for when we fight against not so advanced adversaries, like what we’ve been doing for almost the past 20 years and the A-10 has been invaluable! If World War III were to go past day 1 with Russia we’ll need a plane like the A-10 as well.
The stories that first came out about the F-35 not being able to win in a turning dogfight were later said to be about early F-35 models that had very conservative flight control software. If later stories are to be believed, later on they unlocked the parameters on the software and increased the combat performance of these planes.
Yeah, 17-1 kill ratio during the last red flag where they were put in the disadvantage by having to defend. It out maneuvered the F-16, F/A-18, and F-15 in dogfights in both full circle, 2 circle, and angle of attack maneuvers. The only disadvantage it had was flying vertically
7:20 it's not going to fully replace the F-16. It's going to replace the older blocks. The airforce chief of staff said he wanted an entirely new aircraft to replace the F-16. Something less expensive than the F-35. Very doubtful it will be stealth. Airframes aren't like car bodies. You cant just replace the engine and random parts and have a new car. The strain from g-forces on the wings will create microscopic cracks in the metal that will only grow over time. Eventually the wings will deform, or even snap off. The F-16 being a 9G aircraft makes it even more serious. The war on terror aged a lot of American aircraft significantly faster than intended. They've been able to fix a lot of these aircraft and extend their service life to nearly double but it's still a finite number of flight hours. The older aircraft will be stripped for parts and sent to the boneyard. At a certain point it doesn't matter how good the aircraft still is, if the airframe has 10,000 flight hours then it's potentially a liability.
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As someone who has actually worked in the F35 project, I can say yes. Lots of it was lobbying. But its a badasas plane, theres nothing else in the world that can come close to it. It just ended up costing twice what it should
purely technical question, wouldn't it be more cost-efficient to invest in top notch ground to air defenses(and other fighters like the F-16 if you need it) if you are in a defensive postion, considering that on dog fights it isn't the best and the cost of both getting it and mantaining is so massive in comparison with other aircraft and air defenses
The F-15 is our best fighter. That's why the USA just bought hundreds of the new F-15EX. The F-15 carries the most weapons (can carry 22 missiles), has the best range, is our fastest fighter, and an undefeated combat record... and the A-10 has just been upgraded to bridge the gap between 4th and 5th gen so it'll be flying for the next 15 years.
It’s important to remember that before the F-35 Block 3F, most of the fleet had their engines & software severely limited. In recent exercises we have F-35s defeating clean F-16s and F-15s with 16:1 kill ratios in dogfights. Imagine the difference in a realistic combat configuration.
Love cutting edge stealth. Military is cool too... at least the way you handle it. I appreciate your geopolitical perspectives. So yeah, military might be your bread and butter, especially during these war ravaged times, but I'll tune in to anything you want to try. Thanks for a cool channel!
The f-35 in order to carry its maximum bomb load has to use Wing pylons and carry the ordinance externally. As soon as that happens the plane is no longer stealthy.
I have fallen in love with the Marine version of the f35. I know it has some severe limitations, but as a Marine, there is just something cool about having our own version. I never cared for the Harrier much. I really love our new Viper version of the Super Cobra. That thing is OP.
As one aeronautical engineer explains,the F 35 is basically a lifting body besides the lifting profile the wings also provide.Thus the plane is actually quite maneuverable as been shown in several airshows in comparison to Legacy fighters.
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one factory can produce all the variants because it is more minor differences , on the factory line level, that can be produced, also the F-35 is not meant to dogfight the F-35 is meant to see and shoot first
When US Military jets are retired the go to the boneyard. It’s a pretty cool video.
You've seen how the airplanes and jets are stored in the carrier when the F18 came up the elevator from when you watched and did that documentary reaction video with the ship of U.S.S. Ronald Reagan
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Hey I'm wondering why doesn't Estonia have an air force?
A lot of people talk about how part of the reason it's so expensive is that parts of it are made in 45 out of 50 states. But few people talk about why this is done. Its the reason why we only have under 180 F-22s instead of the planned 750 its the reason why we only have 20 B-2s instead of the planned 132. Because every time a program gets more expensive than planned or undergoes problems which almost all programs have some sort of development problems, they get cut short before it has a chance to mature properly and have all of their capabilities realized. People hate on the F-35 today because its the first plane to be developed during the age of social media. Now every time it has the slightest hangup in production or development it gets pounced on by the media. People forget how often the F-16 crashed in its early days so much it gained the nickname "lawn dart", the F/A-18C Hornet was called "Fat, slow, and without a mission" by one media outlet, the F-22 Raptor had several years in its development where it wasn't flying at all while they figured out the flight software but now those planes are some of the most respected in the world.
Socia Media exposes what it all actually boils down to. Government sanctioned welfare, same as food stamps etc, except multiplied by billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars. I country building 50 drones that carry 30 missles or ? is better off than building 1 F-35 that carries 6. Dont get me started on the actual win loss ratios previous jets have achieved, only to be deemed obsolete so we can add more welfare checks to newer jets like the bloated & unnecessary F-35, ill be here all day. Btw Ace Combat 7 with a Thrustmaster HOTAS setup is tha bomb YO!
No, I think that people hate on the F-35 because of test pilots who say that it is slow, fat, and useless. the only thing it's good at is stealth, and that's a dubious advantage against Russian air defense systems. It is stupid to build a plane for the Navy/Marines and the Air Force. Catapults require tougher airframes than the Air force needs. They should have made two different planes that shared as many parts as possible if they are that worried about cost and exchangeability.
I dont hate the F-35, I hate the fact its 100 % obsolete, overpriced, & unnecessary in this modern day setting, yet gets a pass cause of politics & such. As a jet though, it looks cool, still not on the same league as the extra pointy SAAB Gripen that costs fractions less lol.@@michaelgolisch1081
@@ronniepatterson2827 Curious on why you think it is unnecessary and overpriced. (not sarcastic, asking for your reasons)
Read my comments above for the complete picture but for a conversation starter, our jets we have now, F-18, F-16, etc, win / loss ratios are damn near perfect as is. These engineers & contractors keep pushing a narrative, we need steath, other countries are surpassing us in this or that, without tangible results proving it. Its like winning the superbowl, then getting rid of those players & coaches the nxt yr, claiming someone else is surely gonna win it nxt season, unless they get new players & coaches. Its ludicrous. Not only that, but with these missle systems we have in place, & our "extra stealthy / far reaching" drone tech, why on earth are we still adding machine guns on these modern day jets? Why do we need jets that look cool pulling acrobatic moves at airshows, yet would never be used in actual long range missle exchanges? Dont get me wrong, I love fighter jets, but facts are facts, dogfighting to win wars or solve conflicts, is laugable at this point, yet the welfare machine keeps churning. . . @@michaelgolisch1081
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Last year in the red flag air combat games in Nevada the F35 came out winning 78 to 1 in air combat.
How about the other fighters?
That's true. You can hear about it on episode 121 of the fighter pilot podcast.
@@steynfnstr_photography 78 to one ratio to other real life(not AI) pilots in other planes so obviously not great
@@steynfnstr_photography the other fighter aircraft were F-16s F/A-18s, and F-15s. The F-35 updated software that limited maneuverability to allow more angle and more thrust. The way its so maneuverable is because of its weight balance and the turbulence its body creates when it creates lift that rolls over the wings and adds more pressure. It ended up obliterating other aircraft in dogfights which is partly why it's being so sought after
@@steynfnstr_photography The pilot that talked about this said in any other fighter getting a 2-1 kill ratio in red flag used to be considered phenomenal.
From what I understand, the powerful computer and integrated sensors alone of the F-35 make it an incredibly valuable asset for any military forces. It essentially creates a virtual battlefield using the F-35's own powerful radar and sensors, combined with data from other platforms such as other aircraft, ships, tanks, ground radar, and even soldiers on the ground providing sensor data into a single comprehensive map of the battlefield that the F-35 can use to direct the most effective means of accomplishing the mission at hand, whether that means the F-35 itself attacking, or directing other platforms (fighters, bombers, tanks, ships, or ground troops) where and how to best eliminate targets. It has been said that a single F-35 teamed up with a squadron of 4th Gen aircraft can significantly improve their own odds of success. This is something that a F-16 could never do, despite being a very good multi-role fighter.
This is the main reason it's so highly praised despite some potential shortcomings. When it's fully operational and using all of this crazy tech it doesn't need to dogfight planes as it will be able to engage them before any potential enemy threat even knows they are there.
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Indeed. Or just have another platform do the job if it would be more effective, while providing precise targeting data to its effective extension. A Friendly Wingman project modified UCAV F-16 variant squadron teamed up with a single manned F-35 could be scary. It could just send the UCAV F-16s in to do the job, or possibly have the F-16s act as a distraction while the F-35 sneaks in to do it.
Adding computer will boost planes;
Agility, speed, & stealth by +500
When you control the plane its the pilot telling the computer to do this & that.
Then the computer does the magic of moving the plane.
I think that how it works?
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That is more true for Stealth aircraft due to flight instabilities introduced by the Stealth shape characteristics, and also perhaps technically somewhat for Fly-by-Wire aircraft controls that aren't connected to the control surfaces by hydraulic systems. That's still a hard argument to make for merely Fly-by-Wire aircraft that are only electrically connected to the servos that control the flight surfaces. In an aircraft like the F-22, the computer is actually doing the flying due to those previously mentioned flight instabilities requiring second to second adjustments, in which case the pilot is just directing the aircraft with computer assistance.
the Norwegian Air Force has gotten some of these, and seeing them Weave through the Fjords i live in is a sight to behold. they can turn so incredibly easily inbetween the mountains and Fjord arms it makes me wonder "how much further do we need to take this?" or "how far can this actually be taken? waht hights might we reach next?" it's truly insane.
I'm jealous. I would love to watch them weave through the Fjords
@Atheos B. Sapien hahaha, maybe. but i doubt that. but it would be cool tho! in Empyrion Galactic survival i made a ship called the "NCAS NordFjord" that is like a childhood dream of mine made manifest in the game haha. NCAS stands for "Norwegian Coalition Aerial Space marines"
@@LeviBulger it is indeed incredible to see it. if you ever go on vacation to Norway then i will be more than happy to give you the best locations to go to in the vast Fjords of Norway haha!
Lucky. I live about 30 miles from the factory that finally assembles every F-35 and I've never seen one.
@Atheos B. Sapien There already. Spaceship.
Japan has an "aircraft carrier" that only uses helicopters (no run way) but they bought F-35B and are now planning to launch them of that in 2023 when they get them
F-35B can do VTOL...
U.K. also using them from their aircraft carriers, as they don’t have catapults
@@fanfeck2844 Yes, they already gluged one in the North Sea.
I know it's cheaper, but it's not that good of a system. Jump jets and a ramped bow. No thanks.
@@markmitchell457 nothing wrong with the plane or ship. It was human negligence with a rain cover getting sucked into the engine of the plane
*ahem* helicopter destroyer
On a carrier there's actually a elevator that stores the jets in side. Actually see this when I was kid on the USS Kitty Hawk with my dad when he was one of the fire fighters on the ship. Those F14 Tom Cats look beautiful
3 or 4 aircraft elevators on the deck edges that can transfer aircraft from the flight deck to hanger deck.
Depending on the class of carrier.
He could see the markings around the elevator deck, diagonal black and gold lines.
He was pretty amazed about them when he watched the Wendover video about aircraft carriers more than a year ago. He just forgot.
Thats where they are repaired. First gen japense ones you could see them
it is made for bvr (beyond visual range) combat
meaning it can spot targets far away without being spotted and in this form of combat it has a 78 to 1 kill/death ratio against other american planes such as the f 16
sidenote: the f 35 is also meant to do a variety of missions such as close air support and bombing runs.
What I think a lot of people don't realize is that when ANY aircraft turns on it's radar and starts scanning it becomes visible. Even the F35. Moderns fighters use RWR radar warning receivers. The second the F35 scans across an enemy plane the RWR absorbs some of the radar waves and points in the general direction of the 35 allowing the enemy pilot to focus his radar into that patch of sky and flip through different modes and settings. There's a lot more to it than that but I think a lot of people don't realize stealth gets significantly weakened the second the aircraft turns on its own radar.
@@TexasGreed thats why the irst seekers along with electronic warfare capabilities are so important in the f 35
@@TexasGreed Also to add to Tobilike's reply, AWACS and other long range radars can be used to relay information back to the F-35 from a safe distance during a mission. That way the F-35 can limit it's radar usage and take advantage of it's stealth capabilities. Fighter jets never fly alone on a mission.
Also I'm pretty sure that during deep infiltration missions where an AWACS can't follow and ground targets are the objective, satellites can be used to feed information back to the bombers/ fighter jets.
@@TexasGreed stealth doesn’t get weakened by turning on your radar, the purpose of stealth isn’t to not get detected, but to not get targeted. a turned on radar can give a general direction from RWR, just like a L band radar could, but obv cannot give a targeting solution. It would allow you to refine your radar’s scanning like you said, yes, but it likely wouldn’t be enough.
23:04 Artur they get the aircraft down to the lower decks by using the side elevators that are on the aircraft carrier.
Thank you
You know, the F-22 wasn't always so amazing. It took 15 years before they ironed all the bugs out, and it had some nasty ones. It even had a problem with leaking gasses into the cockpit. Really fun for pilots.
I heard it was an out gassing from the materials the oxygen system leaking toxic fumes. It almost killed the program early. I'm glad they figured it out.
@@gooberclese my Opinion they should make a hybrid of the F22 and F35 and mass produce it that way it’s cheaper than the F22 program
@@karlthedogwithakar98k95 Perhaps, but wouldn't that mean they'd have to build/restart a whole assembly line for that purpose which would cost a lot more? Just asking cause I thought that's one of the reasons F-22's aren't produced anymore, cause the assembly line would need a very sizeable investment to get it back up and running again.
Long ago as a young man, I was assigned as Air Force security at Osan Air Base in South Korea. While cruising around the air strip in a truck with my partner, we sensed something going on behind an aircraft bunker. We parked and climbed on top of the earthen berm that surrounded all of these bunkers. Two Marine pilots in harriers (very uncommon as they were not stationed there and visiting) were starting up a dance contest, with the cover of the berms. (Surely they'd be punished if seen by highers.) As we watched, they took turns dancing their harriers to show off their skills to each other. They dipped and bounded, turned and spun. It was amazing. I feel privileged to have seen it.
Maximum take off weight also determines how much fuel the plane can carry which of course limits its range
4 (3 on Ford class) aircraft elevators around the ship can take planes to and from the hangars below deck. If you're looking at the flight deck you can see where the elevators are because they are usually roped off and have a yellow and red dashed line outlining them. I'm sure there are plenty of videos showing the planes going up and down on the elevators to get to the deck for launch.
Watch the Clint Eastwood movie Heartbreak Ridge when they board the helicopter for the Grenada operation, nearly any episode of JAG.
I always appreciate your sincerity and honesty Artur. have a good day from the UK
F22 is still the dogfighting air superiority platform, f35 is multi roll, and they use large elevators to move the planes down below deck into hangars under the deck
Multi role does not necessarily mean bad dog fighter though.
F15 EX is the new bomb truck now. It carries a lot of boms and meesiles F35 cannot carry so much in secret
@@frankcrawford416 Multi-role : Jack Of All Trades, master of none.
Like relying on a Swiss Army Knife when you can't find the proper tool in the truck.
F-35A's empty weight, wing area, and engine's thrust target are based on 1.5X scaling from F16C Block 50.
F-35C has different design parameters. F-35C rivals F-22A's low wing loading, but F-35C doesn't have F-22A's engine thrust to weight ratio. Engine upgrade program for F-35C is important.
@@CaptainFrost32 F35 is proper tool
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When I was in the Marines many years ago. I was an ejection seat mechanic on F4-S aircraft. I sure am jealous of today aircraft abilities. Personally I’m looking forward to seeing what is already in development to replace the F35. One thing I do know. Lockheed skunkworks puts out some crazy stuff
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Great video. Just found the channel a few days ago. Not a military nut and I have no love for America but I really enjoyed your presentation style my friend. Tervitus.
May not be as fast as the F-22, but it's still very cool. Especially the VTOL model.
at sead ground attack and supporting roles it is superior to the f22
Only the F-35B for the USMC has VTOL
@@Echo4Sierra4160 the only place where VTOL would make sense would be the navy and its carriers
@@xGoodOldSmurfehx Well no... they have aircraft carriers... Marines deploy forward where we don't have air bases.
The F-35C for the Navy has a strengthened landing gear and larger wings that fold.
@@Echo4Sierra4160 I thought the British buy B model also?
Love hearing from youtubers around the world. You be the cats pajamas Artur.
You are a good youtuber keep going mate.
A Danish Air Force test pilot was one of the 2 or 3 test pilots that did most of the pilot work on this project. He lived at Edwards AFB in California for many years
You said you wanted to hear more info. Here it is.
The Harrier and the F-32 took the main jet engine exhaust and split it into 4 exhaust ports, each exhaust port acting like a leg on a table. The 2 front exhaust ports bounced off the ground and went back into the intakes of the main engine, making the engine flame out. Russia made their VTOL aircraft, the Yak-38, hover by turning the main jet engine exhaust down to hold the rear of the aircraft up. The front half of the aircraft was held up by a propeller inside the fuselage. In order to hover, a door opened up above the propeller and air was sucked in by the propeller. The propeller exhaust was not heated up at all and could be sucked into the engine intakes without harm. After the Yak-38 was retired from service in 1991, Yakovlev and Lockheed-Martin entered into a partnership to further develop Vertical Take-off and Landing aircraft together. This is how Lockheed-Martin obtained their knowledge of VTOL aircraft. The F-35 used the same system as the Yak-38 and used the main engine to hold up the rear half of the plane and a propeller to hold up the front half.
Using the helmet in the F-35 allows you to look straight down at the floor and see the ground directly under you. When you look around in the cockpit the helmet can make the entire airplane seem to disappear around you and all you see is sky. That's why the helmet costs so much.
The F-35 is superior in air-to-air combat with the F-16 in every way. The video states the the F-35 test pilot lost more airspeed in a turning dogfight with an F-16 and the F-16 finally won. That is true, BUT, the test pilot was flying a stripped down test F-35 that did not have it's full combat capabilities installed, as stated in the video. In that particular dogfight the F-35 was forbidden to use any BVR capabilities or missiles it had. After the test pilot reported his findings, the F-35 aircraft computer was programmed to out fly and out turn the F-16. Whenever an F-16 flies formation with an F-35 now, the F-16 pilots say they can't keep up with the F-35 in cruise and must regularly use after burner so they don't fall behind. FYI, the F-35, with 43,000 pounds of thrust, has the most powerful engine ever put in any fighter in the world.
When the video was put out Lockheed-Martin had just produced the 50th F-35. Lockheed-Martin has now produced over 750 F-35s. Production rate over the next several years will be about 14 F-35s per month at a cost of about $77 million per aircraft. Most countries will pay much more because the costs of 30 years of fuel, maintenance and upgrades for 30 years, pilot and ground training, and armament are all included in the price for other countries. It normally ends up in the $130 million to $170 million dollar price tag per plane. That is cheaper than an F-15EX, Gripen, SU-35, Chinese J-20, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Rafale. That is why every country in the market for a new fighter is happy to pay less money for a better fighter.
The F-35B version makes it possible for some nations (Japan, UK) to use their helicopter ships as aircraft carriers, without having to spend billions on a large aircraft carrier.
Thank you
I think you misunderstood the idea of total-cost-of-ownership. Lockheed does not charge them for fuel and armament (etc.), but the countries have to budget for that when they buy one.
@@Radmonkeyboy If you know how that arrangement works, please let everyone know.
@@michaelrunnels7660 The country buys the jet for a price. Let's say for argument $100M.
They budget for 200 hours of flight per year, at, say $30,000 per hour. $6M per year.
They budget $1M per year for ordinance
You have an expected lifespan of 20 years.
Your total cost of ownership (exclusive of labor) is now
$100+($6x20)+($1x20) = $240M
Airplane manufacturers don't pay for the user's fuel or ammunition, but the buyer needs to budget for it.
That being said, it is possible that they are billing for expected major maintenance and upgrades. But never fuel and ordinance.
@@Radmonkeyboy I assume that these fuel and weapons costs are added in when they say the F-35 is x amount of dollars total. Is this done with the Eurofighter or the Rafael, or is their published purchase price just the basic jet?
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B2's are rather amazing even flying low. I watched one approach at an airshow. It looked like a sliver in the sky and, because the engine noise is directed behind as well, it was rather silent until it flew overhead. When overhead it was loud and looked to be the size of a city block. Rather amazing. I also saw an f-22 which was rather amazing in it's performance. There were either F-18's or F-16's that felt as well. They did a circle (360 turn) and they were awesome flying an amazingly tight turn. Then they flew over slow and accelerated in full afterburner. They looked fast. The F-22 then did the same maneuvers and turned in 1/2 the radius and when it accelerated it pulled straight up and seemed to accelerate like a rocket.
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@@iamscoutstfu Damn. Makes me jealous. I used to have a whole set up and fly sims. Don't have it anymore though.
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The rudder conbtrol on the (simulated) F22 is mind blowing.
When you said "The F-22 then did the same maneuvers and turned in 1/2 the radius and when it accelerated it pulled straight up and seemed to accelerate like a rocket."
You can see how it's turning radius at ultra-low speeds makes it such a massive threat.
Good day Artur! Thank you for another great video!
The F-35 is a very polarizing plane: people either love it or hate it, and I've heard very convincing arguments form both sides. This is not uncommon for any new military equipment. Just look at the Bradley.
I think it comes down to the way people look at it. On paper it's not as fast or maneuverable or high altitude or carries a big payload as many of the legacy planes. These are the hard factors: the trading card and video game stats. But there are also soft factors: how pilot friendly it is, the maintenance to flight ratio, logistics and supply, compatibility with war doctrine; these are the things not apparent by looking at a statistics display. I was initially against the F-35, but despite a rocky start it has been steadily climbing the ranks in the soft factors, to the point where I can appreciate it for what it is.
In spite of what many say, war is *always* changing. It constantly mutates and evolves; and tactics, equipment, and doctrine must change too else risk becoming obsolete. Today's battlefields are far different from those of the 1910s, 40s, or 60s. Nowadays technology is evolving at an exponential rate. The teen-series are fantastic at what they're built to do, but they were designed with the idea of a war in the 80s, and there's only so far upgrades can get you.
I truly believe that in the rapidly changing face of warfare today, a plane that can operate in any scenario you throw at it is the way to go.
Anyway those are my two cents.
Your first paragraph perfectly describes the dreadnought effect.
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We’re all keyboard warriors, we’ll see what the real experts think, and whether they buy them
F-35 has actually turned out to be a surprisingly successful program, and an incredibly capable aircraft. It has most certainly had serious teething issues through development and manufacturing but today it is unquestionably the king of the skies for air combat.
23:00 there is a big elevator towards the rear of the ship
...leading to a huge hangar directly beneath the flight deck where most maintenance is done.
Those estonian r's are just the chef's kiss. I worked with an estonian conductor for a while and I loved the way he pronounced my first name, which does include an r.
Give those r's some love.
When they did the Red Flag exercise where they have a simulated large scale air war against an aggressor force based on usually Russian tactics and airplanes they usually ended up with a kill ratio of 2-2.5-1 which was considered very respectable. When they did the Red Flag with F-35s they came back with a mind boggling kill ratio of 78-1. There’s a great podcast I think called the fighter pilot podcast on RUclips that anyone who is interested in military aviation should listen to. The F-35 one is particularly interesting.
For perspective, that kill ratio means that a single F35 could solo an entire US carrier battle group (if you discount the helicopters, which I do because if 78 fighter aircraft couldn’t take it then helicopters are just bugs on the F35’s windshield.)
On the Aircraft Carrier decks there are elevators where a plane will stand on and be lowered into the storage areas. The elevator platforms are outlined with Red and Yellow stripped paint
7:34 usually when planes age out, and back in the day even some older warships, they get sold to countries around the world. I know during the Falklands war the Argentine navy used american old fletcher class destroyers from WW2, id imagine they'd sell off the F16's if they retired them
Also, a lot of 'obsolete' but still functional military hardware gets seconded the the National Guard of the several states. I suspect a lot of f16s will find there way to the Air National Guards.
@@kevinalm6686 the national guard has an air force?, seems like a way of just putting it in storage and forget about it except for the 4 of july
@@dimitrivavoulis2184 They have to log a certain number of hours with their aircraft, so a lot of flyovers you see in sports games are also them.
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Artur good morning, the F-35 was built as "Jack of all trades". I believe in task dedicated platforms. The F-22 is an air superiority, fighter. The A-10 is ground and pound air craft second to none. The F-35 does not have the ability to loiter due to high fuel consumption and not an air superiority aircraft due characteristics. Thanks for your work.
@@rooiflitz I get where you're coming from, fam. But the A-10 hasn't been used for its original purpose almost since it first rolled off the production line. We don't plan to use it for tank-busting. Modern tanks are way too good for that. And it's certainly not gonna be the first aircraft you send in to destroy AA targets; leave that to the stealth fighters. It's Close Air Support first, and also happens to have enough hardpoints to carry anti-tank missiles in case they are needed.
You are right though, they are increasingly vulnerable to the modern battlefield, and have been responsible for an unacceptable amount of friendly fire. I do still have high hopes for the new gen of A-10s though. Supposedly the upgrades are going to be substantial enough that the Army and the Air Force aren't terribly concerned about its capability and survivability on the modern battlefield. It's definitely a "yeah the A-10 isn't as amazing as everyone thinks" but also a "we'll have to see on the next gen A-10s." Here's hoping the super A-10s turn out to be exactly what the Army hopes. It would be a real shame if they end up with the same issues plaguing older aircraft.
The 35 is a dog fighter on steroids. Its true maneuvering capability is not shown at airshows. That knowledge can get pilots killed and is really not good policy showing the enemy everything.
On internal fuel the 35 can indeed loiter better than any other jet. It holds internally much more fuel than any other jet fighter I know of.
@@rooiflitz One thing I will mention is that the A-10's friendly fire rate is based on total missions, not incidents by number of sorties; when measured by that, it's actually about even with most other craft, and it's merely the incredibly large number of COIN sorties that have been responsible for that number.
@@rooiflitz the A-10 still shreds light armor and artillery/infantry with the cannon and tank busts with air to ground missiles and smart bombs. Russian BMPs will still get shredded
Aircraft carriers use multiple large elevators positioned on the sides of the ships to move aircraft from the hanger deck up to the flight deck.
When you have a weapon system that is old but still kicks butt it never goes away. The B-52 Bomber was developed over 70 years ago but they keep making it better. They just keep making planes better as long as they have the money. The F-15 is older than the F-16 but the F-15E and F-15S can do what the F-16s can do but better.
Except dogfight
F-16 was specifically built to be a smaller, less expensive version of the F-15. But they found that it's weight allowed it to also be extremely maneuverable (even more so than the F-15).
Rolls- royce in Indianapolis, Indiana is building the engines for the B-52 modernization. The B-52 will also get systems upgrades to make them 21st century aircraft.
@@josephkool8411 not F-15S, the F-15EX. The F-15S is the strike Eagle version built for Saudi Arabia.
@@kdrapertrucker My bad I thought I wroted F15 ex
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artur!!! it's been a WHILE
Love how you get excited over the warthog
The links to the Military-content disappeared or something. They aren't in the description
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My home country Denmark has talked about selling them in 2024 to other countries since they are in high demand as they are in good condition after over 40 years of service. And Denmark will have 27 F-35 in 2024
lack of knowledge
step 1: buy plane
step 2: resell it with a huge mark up
step 3: profit
"Denmark will have 27 F-35 in 2024!"
Wrong. Six of the F-35´s purchased by Denmark will remain in the USA as trainers. The other 21 35´s will be only sufficient to replace just one of the two Danish squadrons of F-16´s. With the new developments in Ukraine it´s doubtful if Denmark is ever going to sell it´s F-16´s. It seems that preparations for the sale has been put on hold. This has actually been foreseen and is not coming as a surprise. Denmark has usely flights of F-16´s based on Iceland and in the Baltic region to protect the airspace of these countries. One could argue that the use of F-35´s for these tasks is needless overkill.
Recently The US and RAAF were having Military co-ops in Darwin . My friend was filming the F-35's fly around the Airport from his hi Rise Tower Unit. I actually though they were Remote Controlled . The filming was at a distance and quite fast . But then I realised these F-35's are very acrobatic and did some some impressive twists and turns ,climbs and dives
Old planes get expensive to maintain when more and more parts start aging and breaking. that is why for example finland will not use old planes when they get F-35
Torm, I think what you're talking about is airframe fatigue. The F35 has a 100,000 hour initial life, after that the airframe will be assessed and future life span will be determined by its in life "g" loading and variant type. It may well get a further 100,000 hour life. All of this though is irrelevant in time of war because the life span will be short due to combat. The projected life span in peace time is to give customers a reliable weapons platform into the future and a superior aircraft should hostilities begin.
Finnish airforce btw already answered your question. What happens to old planes depends on the flight hours on said planes. We are going to sell some parts for spares and scrap the rest as the frames already are close to their flight hour limits. Obviously if you have less hours, then you can sell them or put them in the storage.
I used to work in the military industrial complex. A small part of what I did included the F-35 project. It is a decade or more ahead of any other fighter in the world. It will hit the enemy and the enemy will have no idea what happened- which is what today's modern air forces need, rather than have aircraft specialized in dog fighting- which very rarely happens. The tech is updated for production every production run- and even in already existing planes, which get updated as better tech comes out. the F-16's will be sold off...
purely technical question, wouldn't it be more cost-efficient to invest in top notch ground to air defenses if you are in a defensive postion, considering that on dog fights it isn't the best and the cost of both getting it and mantaining is so massive in comparison with other aircraft and air defenses
@@dimitrivavoulis2184 sometimes the best defense is offense. From a standpoint of a NATO nation facing Russia, the F35 outclasses anything Russia has, so fewer more advanced aircraft is cheaper and easier to maintain, than a larger fleet in the long run. I’d rather have a strike force of 10 F35’s over 30 or more F16’s… you need air superiority to maintain a defensive position, and the F35 is a better choice than simply a defensive battery of SAMs…
@@stevemcgowen ok thanks
@@stevemcgowen Well put, at the end of the day you need your pilots to fly, to get experience and train the use of the aircraft, so it is better to have less more capable aircraft than a large fleet that either rusts or stays in the ground most of the time.
There is also the fact that EW aircraft always tend to accompany combat aircraft when engaging over contested airspace to protect them from ground based weapon systems, which we saw used to great effect during the air campaign in Iraq in the First Gulf War.
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The F35 had a bad development but they ironed it out and turned it into a great multi platfrom jet. The F22 is still my favorite though. But we will never get our hands on those puppies lol.
F-35 beat the F-22 in the air combat games tho because it can essentially snipe missles where the pilot cannot see
@@phantom_5687 games aren't real life lol
Aircraft Carriers actually have a pretty interesting system to stow away their aircraft when they're not in use. After landing, a plane can taxi to a certain spot of the flight deck that actually has an elevator built into it. So the aircraft gets lowered down the side of the ship and parked in the hangar below decks.
In WWII, Federal agents were posted in Radio City Music Hall because of the elevator systems used to ferry acts from the basement to the concert stage. It actually used the same mechanics as would be used on the aircraft carriers in the Pacific fleet.
The F-16 C/D models are approaching their maximum flight time in the US. Metal fails eventually, and these planes are not long for the world. Still, there will be a very active market for used F-16s. And you're right. F-16s are still an extremely potent threat in the air. Even today, the F-16V "Viper" is equal to Rafale, Gripen, and Eurofighter, IMO.
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Artur you should react to "this jet terrified the west: mig-25" by mustard
Yeah the Foxbat. Monster engines that could giddyup to mach 2.5, before burning out.
I saw a picture taken in Iraq of Americans digging out a Mig-25 from the sand buried by Saddam’s troops.
He hid lots of things.
All of your videos are entertaining, keep up the good content and love from Maryland to Estonia
Keep up the good work
He's wrong about the F35 being a "jack of all trades"
F35's primary function is data aggregation/analysis/and dissemination. Basically, it is a stealthy AWACS that can fight. Situational awareness is the F35's purpose and this is why so many other countries have purchased them. Even if you have no other 5th gen, now all your 4th gen platforms are better because they can all talk to and transmit data back and forth with all other platforms through the F35.
Say you have a ground radar, an F35, a Eurofighter Typhoon and a F15 Eagle. The ground radar can't talk to the Eagle or Typhoon, but it can talk to the F35 which can translate its data in a way that both the Eagle and Typhoon can understand, even though they can't understand each other.
Now, ALL my platforms can talk and add their sensor data to the digital picture and can do so at the speed of a supercomputer. On top of that, F35 is a terrifying sensor platform itself. The pilot can see through the jet in thermal and IR spectrums, that same system is constantly looking 360 degrees for anything like a distant missile flare or glint of sunlight off fuselage. So it's like having an unblinking, always hyper-aware sentry that can see in 360 degrees. Plus, that's a passive system, so it doesn't compromise stealth at all to use it.
Add to that the AESA and other sensors and then the fact that F35 can transmit this data to everyone on the battlefield, land, sea, or air with no need for a satellite access.
It just so happens that it is also pretty good at being a stealth air-superiority fighter, ground attack craft, strike aircraft, interceptor etc. etc. etc. because it comes in three flavors: A, B, and C which all excel in different areas.
F35 B cannot VTOL with anything other than minimal weapons and fuel. It is primarily a STOVL aircraft, which can VTOL on it's return to the carrier which is pretty nifty.
You are one of the very few guys that I listen to. I think you are smart and I love your accent.
Your BEST videos tend to be your non-military videos. It's a lot more fun to hear your music, learn about your life and/or life in Estonia, and the history of Estonia. I don't mind the military ones, just hope you don't do too many of them.
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Greetings to you Artur, from North Carolina, USA. Your content is NOT boring, Stay safe.
If you want a dog fighter, go f22 or og with f16, f15, f18. If you want something where you can detect something far away and down it before they know you are there, go f-35. F22 is also good at this
Not really. 78 to 1 dude
@@frankcrawford416 exactly, F-35 can kill you even when you can’t see it
22:59 they actually have a big ass elevator
An impossible question to answer until they actually see combat. We may find out soon over the skies of central Europe.
I hope not, but with the things Putin has been doing lately there is a good chance of that.
Decommissioned planes can either be sold or put in the military reserves. And yes there are some jets the citizens in the USA can purchase themselves for private use. My great grandfather had one from the soviet Era. He was a Hugh ranking officer back then but started out as a tank driver in the Korean War. He eventually became some kind of pilot and got a piloting license. He even survived a crash during wartime and had metal rods put in his back. My favorite story of his is how he got his Purple Heart medal. He said he had been shot a couple times and ran through live fire to rescue 7 other fellow soldiers and carried them to safety while being shot. He still has some shrapnel in him from it you can stick magnets on parts of his body.
I would learn Estonian but it's apparently one of the hardest languages to learn. One day
finland is harder
Bro I'm from USA and your channel is on my top 10 favorites . You are a great dude hope you find only success and prosperity
What will they do with old F-16?
Sell to Estonia!
Elevator platforms hydraulically lower jets one level to hanger bay. Also used to lift jets to flight deck.
Replacing the A-10 is just ridiculous…. 🙄
The A-10 replacement needs its own design that betters the A-10 by a lot. Yeah, I’ve seen the footage of the F-35 and it’s canon doing ground pounding and people calling it “the baby burrrrrrttt!” etc., they can shoehorn the role into a F-35 but making it a flying tank, no… It needs its own design.
you know guns is not the only way to kill ground targets
@@ngurahpradnyadiptha3026 Yeah but a “very VERY light bomber” (what does the F-35 carry, two whole JDAM’s?) isn’t the solution. We need a hardcore ground-pound plane like the A-10 for when we fight against not so advanced adversaries, like what we’ve been doing for almost the past 20 years and the A-10 has been invaluable! If World War III were to go past day 1 with Russia we’ll need a plane like the A-10 as well.
The stories that first came out about the F-35 not being able to win in a turning dogfight were later said to be about early F-35 models that had very conservative flight control software. If later stories are to be believed, later on they unlocked the parameters on the software and increased the combat performance of these planes.
Yeah, 17-1 kill ratio during the last red flag where they were put in the disadvantage by having to defend. It out maneuvered the F-16, F/A-18, and F-15 in dogfights in both full circle, 2 circle, and angle of attack maneuvers. The only disadvantage it had was flying vertically
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Isn’t there an engine upgrade ready for the F-35 that provides 10% more thrust?
7:20 it's not going to fully replace the F-16. It's going to replace the older blocks. The airforce chief of staff said he wanted an entirely new aircraft to replace the F-16. Something less expensive than the F-35. Very doubtful it will be stealth.
Airframes aren't like car bodies. You cant just replace the engine and random parts and have a new car. The strain from g-forces on the wings will create microscopic cracks in the metal that will only grow over time. Eventually the wings will deform, or even snap off. The F-16 being a 9G aircraft makes it even more serious.
The war on terror aged a lot of American aircraft significantly faster than intended. They've been able to fix a lot of these aircraft and extend their service life to nearly double but it's still a finite number of flight hours. The older aircraft will be stripped for parts and sent to the boneyard.
At a certain point it doesn't matter how good the aircraft still is, if the airframe has 10,000 flight hours then it's potentially a liability.
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As someone who has actually worked in the F35 project, I can say yes. Lots of it was lobbying. But its a badasas plane, theres nothing else in the world that can come close to it. It just ended up costing twice what it should
purely technical question, wouldn't it be more cost-efficient to invest in top notch ground to air defenses(and other fighters like the F-16 if you need it) if you are in a defensive postion, considering that on dog fights it isn't the best and the cost of both getting it and mantaining is so massive in comparison with other aircraft and air defenses
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Love this channel. Artur reminds me of an Estonian Chris Evans.
The F-15 is our best fighter. That's why the USA just bought hundreds of the new F-15EX. The F-15 carries the most weapons (can carry 22 missiles), has the best range, is our fastest fighter, and an undefeated combat record... and the A-10 has just been upgraded to bridge the gap between 4th and 5th gen so it'll be flying for the next 15 years.
Used to watch a long time ago and I am impressed over the improvement! Keep going!
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It’s important to remember that before the F-35 Block 3F, most of the fleet had their engines & software severely limited. In recent exercises we have F-35s defeating clean F-16s and F-15s with 16:1 kill ratios in dogfights. Imagine the difference in a realistic combat configuration.
Sir your content is great what ever the category.
Love cutting edge stealth. Military is cool too... at least the way you handle it. I appreciate your geopolitical perspectives. So yeah, military might be your bread and butter, especially during these war ravaged times, but I'll tune in to anything you want to try. Thanks for a cool channel!
The f-35 in order to carry its maximum bomb load has to use Wing pylons and carry the ordinance externally. As soon as that happens the plane is no longer stealthy.
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Your videos are great man, keep them up at your high standards!
Old aircraft are retired to the aircraft bone yard in Arizona with the 309th Aerospace maintenance and regeneration group.
Love your content, stay safe.
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Looks matters, can’t have a goofy looking vehicle, has to be smooth and intimidating
Artur you're funny, you know more about the F35 than I do...I've looked sort of but the detail you shown is amazing, ty...
I just saw one yesterday for the Australia Day Sydney Flyover and those things are amazing.
I have fallen in love with the Marine version of the f35. I know it has some severe limitations, but as a Marine, there is just something cool about having our own version. I never cared for the Harrier much. I really love our new Viper version of the Super Cobra. That thing is OP.
As one aeronautical engineer explains,the F 35 is basically a lifting body besides the lifting profile the wings also provide.Thus the plane is actually quite maneuverable as been shown in several airshows in comparison to Legacy fighters.
The old A 10 Is still some pilots favorite. After this year they are in the history books.
been so addicted to your channel lately!
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F16 goes to it allies country like mine Philippines. But ever country who wants to get it still need to refurbish it and pay for it's transfer