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I owned a 2013 Nissan Versa. The transmission failed on me after owning it for a year. I had the CVT replaced for $3500. They had a Nissan of America class action lawsuit. I signed up and recieved a reimbursement check. I no longer own Nissan vehicles. The last time I driven a Nissan was a car rental back in early September. CVTs are good for gas, bad for everything else.
The whole point of the CVT was it could keep the engine consistently at its powerband meaning better efficiency smoother drivining etc. Then people thought that was strange and didn't like the way CVTs worked so then various manufacturers started making CVTs that simulated normal automatics with "fake shifts" and to me that defeated the whole point of haviny a CVT in the first place
I always let the nissan with CVT get rolling for a half second before I roll into the throttle, it engages much more smoothly that way. Also waiting until you feel it “bump” into D or R to let off the brakes instead of slam-shifting and gassing it as soon as the lever’s in the right spot. However that applies to most automatics not just belt-driven models
yeah, it makes me cringe when I see people just slam the transmission into the next mode when the car is still rolling. Then you have the ones that throw it in park when the car is still moving a decent amount and it jolts off the parking pawl.
When you think about it, the only safe gear to shift into when moving is neutral, and even that shift you should be careful. And people need to learn that unless you're gonna be waiting a while, don't bother shifting into park while waiting, it causes just as much wear doing that as it does waiting while in drive.
All transmissions seem to have the “one Mississippi, two Mississippi” engagement theses days. My ‘18 Mustang with the 10 speed automatic does the same thing. So if you’re reversing out the driveway and hitting the gas as soon as you go to D, you’re going to make trouble for yourself.
Great video. I have a CVT trash mission for a 2009 Altima, I change the stepper motor then I change the valve body from a 2012 car, nothing works my car doesn't have reverse and goes 20 miles and hour, why the gears doesn't shifted? any idea? Thx
I have a 2014 Altima. CVT was replaced at ~40000 miles. I have been replacing the CVT fluid every 10,000 miles. Now it has 155000 miles and is doing fine. 🤞
got a 2010 Altima with over 250k on it and still original transmission. did a fluid and filter change recently. still going perfectly fine. no complaints here
@@rafaelg9016the rule is that most people don't do proper maintenance of transmissions. Every car manufacturer knows that. Smart car manufacturers expect that and engineer their transmissions accordingly.
I don't know if you heard about Dacia. I just wanted to buy a dacia logan with jatco cvt transmission wich was on nissan juke (code DXK or DXK0). Have arrived at dealership with cash in my hand tu buy it but after I saw all this videos with problems on this gearshift a refuze to buy it. Now I'm asking if I did a mistake or it was a good idea to buy it for ride sharing
I'm sorry, you make a couple valid points but are way off on others. Yes CVT's in cars can suck for reliability when compared to other reliable transmissions. But don't forget not all traditional auto trans were reliable. There have been many duds through the years. Your missteps: Using headphone I never heard CVT whine in your vid. I've never heard CVT whine in a CVT equipped vehicle. Sometimes you get engine whine in cheaper setups where the engine is being held at in it's power band. Powerband....Traditional transmissions are incapable of hold an engine in it's power band like a CVT. If the CVT isn't doing so it is A: programmed not to do so (in order to simulate shift to a certain extent) or B: failing. Not all CVT's simulate the fake shifts. I've driven several that do not. One example is the Nissan Pathfinder. There are different ways to drive different transmission. Though I agree the reliability should not be drastically affected from "normal" driving. Yes CVT's will get better fuel economy than a traditional automatic transmission. You can't say you don't see it unless you have the exact same car driven the exact same manner in both traditional auto trans and a CVT. I mean...what are you comparing it with to make that claim? The oil change issue...I agree most won't but that's user error if the manual specifies it. What would happen if you never changed your engine oil? The SAME THING, but faster. So it's good you bring this point up. READ YOUR MANUAL PEOPLE. The maintenance schedules were created by the manufacturers to ensure the vehicle lasts for it's guaranteed amount of time. Look I'm not a CVT fan boy by any stretch. I think they work fine in ATV's and SXS's but the more power and weight you put on them the more the reliability seems hit or miss. I largely think this is an engineering problem as CVT's in vehicles is relatively new. Just think about all the dud traditional automatics that manufacturers have made in the past. A CVT that's programmed to be a CVT rather than simulate a tradition trans is the smoothest you'll ever ride in a gas powered car. Unfortunately they have a bad wrap because in many cases they weren't engineered to be as tough as their traditional trans counterparts. My biggest gripe with CVT's as should be yours is the reason auto makers started putting them in cars to begin with...To meet GOVERNMENT regulations!!! The government is continually forcing products on us that we don't really want... Just this year Dodge stopped making their V8 Hemi engine due to the regulations. One of their if not their most popular engine options. Have you notice all cars are getting smaller and smaller engines that are usually turbo charged? This isn't because turbo's are the cool new thing. It's because you can strangle more horses out of an engine with a turbo. But this comes at a cost of reliability and longevity.
The CVT transmission does give you higher gas mileage , But Nissan has done something very different They are configuring their vehicles, so did you have to take it back to the dealership to To have general maintenance on a vehicle.
Do you know anything about reliability on Honda Civic. I have to use an auto box due to limitations with my left leg. I have the choice of a CVT auto or iShift (manual with auto clutch). What would you recommend?
Looking for a good used car is discouraging right now. Newer vehicles fall into two general categories: those with bad engines and those with bad transmissions.
@@shaungranger2166Even Toyotas are falling down the spiral of unreliable transmissions. At this point. Just buy a babied 2000s or older car. They don’t make things like they used to.
Don't forget ones that aren't maintained like a used rogue with 80k miles with original fluid in the trans. Gee I wonder why it's slipping?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
Bought a 2014 Altima last month, resold it 23 days later, something was wrong with that car that the dealer couldn’t figure out. These are good new and they are good as trade in cars, not used or long lived car. Don’t expect more than 10 years out of it.
That’s because at least in their hybrids Toyota uses e-CVT which has planetary gears. I don’t know about their regular petrol CVT models. They’re rare in our market.
@@Manvscars I brought the car to the nissan dealer where i bought. Still not repaired. I bought 2 years ago for 11.000 Euro and the repaircost will be around 11.500 Euro. I give it to my lawyer to handle this case. Btw i had no accident. This is just what need to be repaired from engine. 🤮 I drive car for more then 30 years. I never give to lawyer if my car need to be repaired. This is first time. The repaircost is shocking me. Never again Nissan.🤮
@@Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am Nothing to do with me. I brought my Nissan to 4 different service because no one wants to repair the CVT of Nissan. I called 30 service and explained and asked if they can repair. Answer: No This is a Nissan quality problem. At the end i found i service station they can repair. It cost me more then 5.000 Euro. The guy from service told me Nissan CVT not good. This not only quality problem of Nissan. Even the service from Nissan Europe not good. My first and last Nissan.
Without knowing what you bought, whether it was new or used and without you saying what the actual mechanical problems you have, your comment is largely irrelevant. If it was a new car, then yes, fair enough to complain. If it was something with a bit of age and a heap of mileage, then that isn't so surprising. Good luck taking legal action. Who is at fault, Nissan or the dealer who sold you the vehicle? It's no surprise at all that the repair costs increase in relation to the purchase price and current market value as a car ages. All cars suffer wear and need maintenance, that's not just a Nissan thing.
I have a 2013 Nissan versa with 150,000 and my transmission is failing. im juggling if i should get it fixed or if i should get something else. Is it worth it?
If the vehicle is in great shape it might be. However it's a tough tipping point for most people when the repair cost is more than the value of the vehicle.
What about the new cars like 2021 onwards?? Because im sure with any technology it gets improved each year following all the problems and complaints.Let us know us about the new 1nz because im looking at a 2023 Rogue
Nissan went CVT (on the Altima) in 2007, those early units weren't great, but I understand they could regularly go 120K, by 2010-2012, the units got worse, going out sub 75K, with failures at 30K pretty common... then they started slowly improving again. Sort of an odd learning curve, probably too many accountants in the engineering department at JATCO, shaving pennies.
The other problem I have with CVTs is that the fluid and filter cost like 2-3x more than a regular ATF and filter. So, whatever fuel savings I get from the CVT is cancelled out from periodic maintenance.
I think the v6 CVTs like my 2009 Murano fares better. Because with the power of that engine, i can get up and go and not exceed 2000rpm so the CVT doesnt have to spin has fast. I let the car roll a bit before I press gas. I drive it pretty gently. 110k miles on original CVT.
I’ve test driven one fully loaded couple of years ago and I actually liked it. So much space in that thing and it was so comfortable. As for the CVT, I really didn’t like how whiny it became when you accelerate. Something felt wrong 😂. Drove for about 20 minutes inside of traffic and stopped for couple of minutes and I was shocked by the fuel economy when I turned off the car. 6.8/100km with the 4WD on auto mind you. Those are Toyota Corolla numbers. At least the 2.0 ones. I’m kind of tempted to get one and I don’t blame others who choose to get one either.
Basically he said all CVT transmissions. While ignoring the fact that the original Prius is one of the most reliable cars ever made. Transmission included.
Just bought a 2024 Outlander ES gas. First time owning a vehicle with CVT transmission. When stuck in traffic on highway going between 20-35km per hour, the car makes a slight jerk when using gas pedal to break and accelerate, also makes slight jerks when breaking between 20km per hour to 0 (full stop). Does anybody know if this is a normal function for cvt's?
The cvt in the Highlander is made by the same makers (Jatco) then the cvts in Nissans… get the extended warranty if you decide to keep this vehicle more then then the warranty period… also do the fluid changes every 25,000 miles… keep all receipts…. But honestly, I wouldn’t tow with it..
If you are a DIY ,Changing the CVT fluid is as easy as changing the oil . Just more expensive.Just changed mine at 52k. 3 3/4 qts. Black Black Black.New fluid is a clearish light blue/greenish color. Has been running like a top since the day I bought it. Honestly, my transmission doesn’t make any noise at all. Keep my fingers crossed.Note: the entire transmission holds about 6 quarts but when you do a change only three and three-quarter quarts come out
The "special" way to drive them is by not hitting the gas pedal from a dead stop, stop light or stop sign. Also, you need to let the CVT fluid warm up for 3 minutes from a cold start, fluid must be at a certain temperature before operating. When you hit the gas pedal from a dead stop or start the vehicle from a cold start and start driving without the warmup, you will decrease the life of the CVT.
ahhh, baby it and don't move it until fluid reaches operating temp. Got it. To add on to that the cooling for the transmission fluid is also horrible. So don't let it get toooo hot.
Drive it like no one hs ever driven from the beginning of time. Cars are expected to take a certain amount of abuse. I would think that hitting the gas from a dead stop should cause no damage to a modern automobile.
@@DigitDesign You would think, but to save money some mfg no longer care about reliable transmissions or motors. CVT transmissions are the worst and must be pampered to get 100K life without any issue. Most regular transmissions are durable and are capable of reasonable abuse such as gassing it from a dead stop, doing donuts, drifting and minor off roading (sedans) in emergency situations. But the CVT's are horrible, I have one, not by choice, but I have had all mfg suggested maintenance done on it since i owned it new and no issues so far with 112K on it.
@@gregnixon1296 Sad but true, I have a CVT and I must drive it exactly as you described. I now have 112K on it, but it still runs like new and when I'm on the hwy, the passing gear is still fast, i was surprised by that, but it runs smooth.
Thank god Mazda at the very least gave the 3 a 6 speed auto although an 8 speed would have been nice. The Kia Forte GT-Line cvt had no issues but I only put 20,000 miles on it.
I own a 2013 Altima and no issues with the CVT transmission by avoiding jack rabbit starts and hard stops which is pretty typical of how I see most drivers doing on the road today. I regularly get 34 mpg highway and 29 mpg local driving.
My wife loves her 2017 Rogue. With 141K miles, CVT gave out last year and I limped it to the dealership for her. $7,000 parts/labor, her treat. Other issues: Front wheel bearings went out @ 73K, left rear brake caliper chewed a rotor @ 127K, minor intermittent electrical ghosts, no tranny dipstick, and body panels made from recycled Coors Light cans. I don't get it. Then again, I have a 2009 Tacoma with terminal frame rust, so I'm leading in the race to the junk yard.
I used to drive a lot of different cars as a car dealer service helper back in university. Hyundai CVTs in particular on the accent and venue felt like rubber bands with molasses delay. A complete snooze fest next to the Mitsubishi Mirage cvt. Honda ones are so so but I have a 20 Civic Sport Hatchback and surprisingly it is very responsive, even with the cvt. It feels great and already has 44k miles of...very abusive driving haha. Try merging on the Chicago expressway without a lead foot and you won't get far! Major thing I do is replace the fluid every 30k miles.
I had a 2011 Honda CRV, but I managed to drive it 12 years without a CVT failure, but I only drove it 147,000 km. (91,341 miles) I don't know if Honda had failures with those CVTs or not. I remember doing a transmission flush at least once at the Honda dealership. Whatever they recommended I did. Now I have a 2023 RAV4 Hybrid, but they have an eCVT, and the only thing in common with the CVT is those 3 letters according to Car Care Nut. They don't have any belt, and Car Care Nut describes them as very reliable. He's a Master Toyota Diagnostician, and I believe him. When I bought our Honda, I had no idea what a CVT transmission really was. But I had no complaints about that transmission. I don't like to accelerate fast because that's a waste of fuel, so maybe that is what that comment before meant about how you drive it? Maybe if a person hits the accelerator hard it puts more stress on the CVT transmission?
Yeah it seems the common theme with the Nissan CVT is the cooling situation for the transmission isn't very good. So fluid changes are very important. Yeah I would agree if you were "beating" on the vehicle like harsh accelerations all the time that failures would arise. However I'm like you with this particular vehicle as well. Fuel savings. I do like those rav4's too. Great fuel economy and a great looking vehicle.
Just about to buy a used Nissan with a CVT. I will say that it is a 2y.o. replacement in a 2009 model X Trail, but the current owner hasn't had any issues with it. Also not sure about the noise comments. On the test drive I didn't find it at all noisy, or hear it make sounds it shouldn't. I actually found it very responsive. Best of my understanding is the CVT failures we hear of are from drivers giving them a good work-out off-road, or constantly carrying full payloads and/or towing. Don't punish them, keep oil fresh and temperatures down and they aren't as unreliable as many make out.
Your video is great. Thank you for the information. CVTs are not going away,,, for better or worse they are here to stay in IGP engines. I currently own a Rogue with the "new and improved" CVT. I believe they got rid of the metal belt and replaced it with a "chain drive system". I may be incorrect??? Hopefully they upgraded the small cooling system?? That said... This is my 4th Jatco CVT,, (Nissan owned). I have never trusted the manufactures about their recommended maintenance schedule. I am an old man so,, I have the fluids changed every 20K,, along with the filter system! As stated in an earlier comment,, the " special way" to drive a CVT,, If you want longevity is to NEVER go from a "stop" and leave the line quickly! Gradual acceleration is the only wat to drive these things. That thin metal belt acts like a rubber band. it will stretch and YOU will regret that! once up to speed you can drive it like any other car. As you said.. I don't think the MPG is a lot better than a normal system. My Rogue is an AWD Platinum. It is a good sized crossover and where i drive I average 35 MPG. I'm happy with that. I have never had a problem with any of my CVT cars but maybe I just got lucky.. As for the noise,, I sang in a rock band for years and I cant hear high pitches. HA! Thanks again. Rev
Conducted, or considered new plugs (iridium), fuel injector additive flush or replacements? CVT filters / screen replacement as well as possible additive? (Lube Gard) Best -
My Nissan Rogue owners manual doesn’t even specify a transmission fluid change interval. I wonder how many people lost their transmission due to this lack of instruction.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2017 Sentra, 65,000 miles, looks showroom (I'm an auto detailer; it better). My CVT was $5,200 and replaced at about 60,000 miles a year or so ago. My warranty was to expire in 3 days and went in for an oil change. They offered to replace it and gave me a loaner car. I did not detect any problem with it, other than a little "clank" when putting it in gear; something I assumed all older cars do. It did not whine and the new one doesn't either. I'm basing my post on what you've said and my car, not on others' comments. I do think the CVT cars should be driven differently than conventional transmissions. I joke and say mine goes 0 - 60 in about 3 hours. But it really can do it in about 2. You must change your fluids, do not drive over 85, never pass with it (it has no overdrive to boost) unless you have a clear mile to do it (that isn't a joke), never tow anything, always use your parking brake when you put it in park and before you let off the brake- always. Warm it up until it falls under or around 1000 RPM (2 minutes) before driving, never pull out in moving traffic (you can't get up speed), drive like you are 65, retired and have nowhere to go fast. It's best if you're over 45 and patient. I am going to make this 2nd transmission last and I'm grateful Nissan gave it to me and I never asked why. I'm getting a motorcycle for about the price of a transmission and keep the miles off my car except when it rains or I need to carry something. I bought it new so it's paid for (no car payment is bliss), I have nothing but a battery invested in it, it looks new and I don't want to buy someone's used car. New cars are too expensive, I don't want a car payment and I like mine, so I have no plans to replace it and I put less than 2500 miles on it now anyway. I had a 2015 Sentra before this one, but someone hit me so I bought another. I would not buy one again however, knowing what I do now. Aside from the CVT itself, it has absolutely no power at all. I'm stupid that I didn't inform myself better. 124 HP sucks but I do like my car otherwise.
My 2017 rogue has not been that bad it has 70,000 miles and I had the transmission serviced at 60,000 miles. Still runs and drives like new even though I can’t stand how it drives at all.
Yeah honestly the car for me has been ok in terms with the engine and other components. The CVT failed at 95,000 miles for me. I agree with the driver “feel” experience lol. But it’s economy class I suppose.
wait till you get close to 100,000 miles. There are no transmission rebuilding or parts to replace. There is only replacing the whole CVT, which costs at a minimum $4,000. That's a hard pill to swallow
I know people with CVT's (including Nissan) that are 300,000 KM (186,000 miles) that are still going. Mind you they did all the maintenance and did transmission fluid changes when they were supposed to and put in the fluid designed for the tranny. The other factor is that they are all on 4 bangers around 2.0L so they are not being driven that hard. Ignore maintenance on a tried and true old school torque flite, turbo 350 etc. and they will expire before their time as well
Tell that to the thousands of people with CVTs failing at 40k miles or even less. I can't think of any traditional automatic with a failure rate anywhere close to Jatco's crappy CVTs. The only transmission comparable is Ford's awful Powershift DCT.
Thank you for bringing the concerns of the transmission to our attention . The video can give the impression that Nissan made a bad transmission design, put their head in the sand, and continued to put bad transmissions in their vehicles without making any adjustments to improve its design. They would be out of business quickly if they did that. Changing the transmission fluid is a key thing to do, of course, and making sure you make a full stop before switching gears. From Nissan. "The CVT had a major hardware update for the 2013 model year, which included a reduced-friction design, a wider ratio spread, and a belt that could better handle high torque outputs." This does not mean its perfect, but its much better than the older CVT transmissions
You think the regular cvt is bad the hybrid cvt is even worst where th electric motor actually breaks after 100.000 km and stalls the entire vehicle on the road
My buddy's 2019 nissan kicks CVT just blew up on him a few days ago at 90k miles, and he had been changing the trans fluid and keeping the car maintained. It also wasnt a cold day (it was about 60 degrees). The only thing is that he is a bit of an aggressive driver. But he was otherwise conscientious about his car. It surprised me a bit because I thought they had sorted the issues with the cvt in more recent models and that the 2019 would hold up since it presumably has the "new and improved" cvt. It seems like you need all the stars to align to keep these things from failing. And btw I personally enjoy the driving experience with the nissan cvt, which i had in some recent rental cars (Versas), but i wasnt trying to drive aggressive. Even though ive enjoyed the rental experience of cvt cars, i dont feel assured about the ownership experience.
90k miles on a kicks.. how do you drive a kicks... aggressively? Like... what? Bottom line is when CVT fluid changed and the cars are driven like a normal daily driver most of the time unless you need to floor it randomly to pass or merge.... zero problems.
@@TGZ32 aggressively as in going 90mph on the highway instead of 60, and accelerating harder as opposed to easier from dead stops. But he was changing the cvt fluid and otherwise maintaining the car.
See lots of complaints, but my 2021 Nissan Altima with 34,000 miles on it runs great….so maybe got lucky so far…..but wondering if I should flush or change fluid to N3 fluid with filter….can’t get straight answer from dealerships as to filter change either….so kinda concerned overall.
I would recommend changing it. These units do seem to build up a large amount of heat which causes the fluid to breakdown. The fluid change and filter change cost is minimal. Fresh fluid can't hurt unless it's too late.
@@Manvscars kinda figured as such…much thanks 👍. However some are saying don’t need filter change for 2021 Nissan Altima…..who is correct….would think with sifter inside filter you would need to extract from metal casing…correct?
2017 Altima here, change my fluid every 30K, almost up to 90K now, still good. Keep in mind a "drain and fill" only gets 4.7 quarts (out of 7) and if you drop the pan, you can get pretty close to 5 quarts out AND you can clean the magnet, pop in a new filter. Drain and fill means you leave 30% or so of old fluid behind, so at 79K I pulled the pan for the first time, everything looked good, then at 86K I pulled the pan again, "flushing" it with 10 quarts (over 7K miles) and I figure it got my trans to about 91% good fluid with about 5% okay fluid, and about 2.5% really bad old fluid. Its impossible to get rid of ALL the old fluid, no matter how many times you flush it. One of the drawbacks to drain and fill v cooler line total replacement (NOT RECOMENDED FOR CVT). I've heard of them going past 200K with regular drain and fills though.
I just rented a 23' Maxima last week in Quebec (the car had just over 3K kilometers on it, literally almost brand new). My first experience with a CVT and I must say I was not impressed. I noticed that you could never really find a good spot on the throttle when pulling into traffic and also Quebec is very hilly and the trans seemed to always be bogging in the wrong spots. The cruise control was really bad in that the car would constantly surge on and off especially as you're going downhill. I like the Maxima as far as the interior, the ride was pretty good, the MPG was pretty good, the power was good if you completely mashed the throttle. But, every time I parked the car, I could smell what seemed like burnt oil coming from under the car. I first thought it was the brakes when I parked, so I walked around and sniffed each wheel and nope, it was coming from the mid part of the car where, yep you guessed it, where the CVT is located. So, not a fan of the CVT and anyone who tries to support them are only doing it because they bought a car with one and they are trying to save face. Good luck people.
Me I really disappointed with nissan I bought nissan pathfinder 2018 with 64k now 72k I heard something weird noise on the motor I hope it will last a little bit so that I can swap it on mazda or Toyota....
Apparently, Nissan and Mitsubishi are using the same CVT from Jatco, but why does Nissan have a worse reputation for CVTs? Does anyone know of any mechanical differences between these two brands?
2014 Altima w/ 197k miles, I change the CVT fluid and filters every 30k, I run Pennz Ultra Platinum in the engine with a Purolator BOSS filter change every 4k, also other parts/ fluids as well. It's been a great car, especially for road trips. It's not fun to drive however, but that's not why I bought it.
My 2012 Altima has over 218,000 miles on it. Original engine. Original transmission. I change the oil every 3000 miles. Drain and fill the transmission fluid every 30,000 miles. The car has been good to me.
I've seen a few of them last, specifically if they were only highway driven and well maintained. However, I saw enough of them fail in the time before I left the automotive industry that I won't recommend friends or family buy one. I also have a coworker who lost his 2013 Nissan Versa to CVT failure. Cost was more than the car was worth so it was scrapped.
That's a lot of changes. A lot of people hate gm but I do my oil changes every 10k miles and have never changed the transmission fluid on my 2015 Cadillac XTS and zero problems at over 70 thousand miles 😂
Wow that's terrible. Engine oil at 3k and trans at 30k is way too often for a modern car. Big waste of money. How much are you really saving on gas on cvt?
@@mofayer the actual requirements should be engine oil/filter at 20000 miles or annually and CVT at 60000 miles. Carrol synthetic Transmax CVT meets the new Nissan standard is is about the same as the engine oil.
Toyota and Lexus vehicles use a planetary gear arrangement to produce a CVT, not a belt. When paired to a hybrid system they appear to be bomb proof and in Lexus's case pretty quiet. If you are gunning away from every junction then it is still not the transmission for you, but if you want relaxed cruising at highway speeds with good gas miles, then probably not much better around.
My first CVT experience was a rental Mitsubishi Mirage. That thing droned like crazy. Second experience was a 2016 Altima that I purchased. It wasn’t horrible and the fake shift points helped with the drone but it was extremely boring.
I agree with the things you say, but between myself and parent's that have CVT transmissions, gotta be running on luck. 2010 Altima with 120k miles, 2012 Versa with 85k miles no problems. I just don't get how these companies just don't go back to putting in regular automatics. I would think with all the negative feedback, warranty repair, etc. that all of the brands and reputation get tarnished and well lastly listen to customer feedback
Had a 2016 Altima 3.5 SR. Transmission started slipping at 32k miles. Sold it to carmax for $15k and bought mazda3 because it's practically the only compact car (wanted a smaller car) without a cvt.
I was considering a 2024 Honda HRV, but not any more, since they have CVT’s. Now, looking at Mazda CX30, Toyota RAV4, naturally aspirated versions. Thanks for your presentation.
i will say in some cases they do improve fuel economy, my friend gets 38-40 mpg in his 2021 civic 1.5t with the cvt and when i baby my 2019 civic Si with the same engine and a 6 speed manual i’m getting barely 30.
The cvt in 21 were completely redesigned… they are much better 21 and up… this is according to the techs at Nissan , and corroborated by the industry experts…
I have a 2019 Nissan Rogue with CVT, naturally. I have read lots about proper treatment of CVT'S. Basically, I really like the quickness, but I baby it. Had the oil changed at 30plus K. Gas mileage has been as high as 38 mpg, but it is usually around 30 on average. Hope I can keep gremlins at bay with goog service. I am not a lead-foot driver, but am easy and steady.
Just purchased a 2014 nissan juke acenta, less than 3months, and the transmission seems it's coming through the floor. Got collected by the dealer who said he can fix it ,? If it comes back giving me shit.than i will back it ,will not purchased a car with CVT..Again....
I know that you are not supposed to try to drag race with these transmissions, they won't last long if you have made alot of fast starts. Just slowly and reasonably engage the acceleration, don't treat them like a racecar because they are anything but. I was told this by a Nissan representative when I bought a 2011 Nissan Rogue. Now I have a 2015 Nissan Rogue Select and I have no problem with it but the mileage is only 14,300 and I still avoid fast takeoff with it. Call it babying it if you want but I like it so far, I only paid 19k for it when I bought it new and have had it 8 years so I feel like I got a bargain.
I have a 2018 Nissan Sentra the transmission decided to blow after coming off a 1-inch drop from a parking lot to a main road and we're going to send it back because Nissan just isn't what it used to be
I've had my Nissan CVT for seven years and it was built in Japan. It seems good, so far. It is a Tiida Latio, a Versa in America. I have changed the transmission fluid twice over the last 80000 kms. It only has a 1500cc motor and I don't go over 3500 revs on the tach. There is no need too. Good motoring.
Own a 2013 Altima and 2016 maxima purchased both new . I change the cvt fluid every 30k and both are running like the day of they we’re purchased. , maintenance is key
I had a 2015 Murano and the trans kept slipping. It wouldn't move the car from a standing start. I was lucky when after taking it back to the dealer four times, the area engineer was there and he took it out, came back and told the dealer to replace the trans. That car was totaled a month later and I bought another Murano 2016 (my 3rd) That trans started slipping with only 3,000 miles and the dealer immediately started playing the lemon law game with me. A call to Nissan West Point GA and they called the dealer who claimed there was nothing wrong with it. The car also had a high frequency vibration in the steering system (more common in smaller Nissan SUVs) that made it painful to hold the wheel at highway speeds. The dealer claimed they felt nothing but never took it on the highway to really test it. I called a lawyer, and he told me he tried suing the dealer before but lost because they were experts at playing the lemon law game. It was Preston Nissan in Preston MD. I later found out Nissan used statistical analysis to determine they sold more cars to new customers than returning customers, (probably because they didn't like getting screwed on warranties) so they decided to screw the current customers and rely on screwing new ones! Never buy another Nissan or any car from Preston.
Have to diy on fluid change not based on some paperwork. Diy and use exactly fluid for the transmission from dealerships . My 2019 chr and 2020 corolla le runs sweet like the first day I got it.
I have a 2017 nissan sentra with 120,000 miles with no issues. I bought it new and its served me well. If and when the cvt dies, ill just have to get another car.
My mom drove a 2008 suzuki sx4 sedan with a CVT. She just donated it to Teen challenge last year with 320 thousand kms on it. It was still driving fine, but the car’s accessories started getting electrical gremlins from rusted grounds and connections. It had no “fake shifts”, it accelerated at a fairly steady rpm. She bought it before i even knew much about CVTs in cars. I would describe the acceleration or power feeling as like it was wound up with a clock spring or rubber band…. Starts kind of slow, but then gets going all behind a steady push of G force. Similar to an electric car, but with much less torque. Not sure why Nissan is struggling with them so bad… suzuki had it down more than 15 years ago!
My friend bought a 2010 rogue for 5 grand transmission failed less then a yr she had it. She bought it from auto solutions repair shop . The owner told her he fixed everything on it. The shop did nothing
I am surprised the aftermarket hasn't come up with solutions to these problems. I haven't found any rebuild kits or transmission swap solutions anywhere. My uncle's 2014 QX60 hybrid is in pristine condition and runs perfectly except for the transmission shudder problem. I feel like there is a MASSIVE market for this.
Right! ECVT has nothing to do with CVT. The way Toyota hybrids work, they don't need a transmission at all. What they have is basically a differential (sometimes Toyota calls it the power split device) that connects the engine and MG1 (small electric motor) together so they work in synergy. There is no torque converter, no clutches at all and, most importantly, no belts.
@@demagabjust slight correction, there’s two electric motors contained in the power spit device. MG1 and MG2, MG1 is connected to the engine and works as the “starter motor” and generator for charging the battery. MG2 is the larger traction motor responsible for propulsion and regenerative braking. It can work tandem with the ICE to propel the car by varying electrical resistance with MG1 or on its own at lower speeds for a few miles (EV mode). For AWD drive model’s they added a third motor generator for powering the rear wheels on-demand and also adds to the regenerative capabilities.
Had a 2012 Rogue that went into limp mode each summer. Nissan said we can fix it for $1900. I put in an aux generic trans cooler & changed the fluid each summer. It fixed the limp mode but trans always whined. At 97K some guy hit it while my wife was driving. I am glad the SUV is gone. Bought a Mazda CX-5 with trans gears. Problem solved.
I have a 2012 maxima since 2020. No issues w the cvt at all up to date. 91k miles. I change the oil twice ( nissan oem) my car has good power but i do notice the lack of power at the same time. I put a air intake in the car and it accelerates better and gives the engine that nice rawww sound. I can say this will be the last time i do buy a car with cvt because of the high % of failers. But the bad news is all auto makers are using cvt. But i only hope for the best for ppl that have cvt in their cars. Change your oil every 30k. Use the official brand rather than aftermarket.
It's a problem mostly endemic to Nissan (Jatco) CTVs. Seems like they were not designed to handle a lot of torque from larger engines but on smaller displacement applications, they seem fine. Toyota and Honda CVTs seem to fair better with Toyota now primarily using a CVT with an actual 1st gear that used when driving off from a complete stop to reduce the strain on the belt.
I rented a 2022 Toyota Corolla with a CVT and it was actually one of the better CVT's I've driven. The Toyota models have a "launch gear" and the whole driving experience was very smooth, the transmission was very well behaved for a CVT with no wild rpm fluctuations.
@@Afrocanuknah those mofos last, it's a Toyota. They put that transmission through the ringer to make sure it could have that badge placed onto it. Already have a friend that has 265,000 on his 2021 Corolla SE (same car as 2022)
I think they are all known to have some issues but the actual feedback I can give honestly is on the Nissan. (Because I’ve owned since new) with that being said I have driven them and the response is similar but longevity I can’t speak on. Never had to do anything but maintenance to the Hondas and Toyotas.
Honda and Toyota cvts are much much better built… as a mechanic, I can say this with complete certainty… the cooling systems in Honda, and Toyota are much better able to keep the cvts cooler as well… an Uber driver had a 14’ Corolla equipped with a cvt that lasted for 325k miles, and he beat the hell out of it.. had a lead foot… and Honda which I have a 2013 accord with a cvt still going @ 170k miles.. their failure rate is almost nonexistent under 150k without proper maintenance… of course with the proper maintenance, 200k miles is no problem on the vast majority of them… Nissan has jatco who build their cvts… they have a history of being a trans-garbage transmission manufacturer …Honda and Toyota make their own .. for the most part..
@@XDMIIIIIIIII Nissan CVT’s over heat primarily because the cooling system for the transmission fluid is inadequate… I speak of pre 21 models…plus the cvt themselves are not built like Honda’s or Toyotas…in the Nissans, those units ran hot… many Nissan owners have had an auxiliary cooler installed which helped tremendously… pre 2021 models I’m speaking of… however, both the cooling systems and cvts have been redesigned…
great vehicle, I picked one up for cheap, but was thinking maybe doing an asian market X-trail 6 speed swap which should have been an option its such a waste because these are decent cars that still have a cd plyer along with usb
I just had the P1778 error code come on my Juke with the CVT(178000). It's driving fine, no slipping or anything. Maybe it came on to warn me the trans fluid is low? I need to get it booked into to Nissan for a gearbox diagnostic to see if the fluid is low.
The cvt is expensive? I thought the whole point of them is that they are cheap? Also, my understanding is the tech for CVT is awesome, but car companies kinda mucked them up, so you don’t get a the actual benefit.
That’s the funny thing, they equip them in the economy class vehicles for fuel savings and cost (so they claim) but then the replacement units have a more expensive price tag. For sure a reason for it that makes sense for these companies which I have zero knowledge on.
They are cheap for the car makers to build, but NOT cheap to repair, because there is usually no such thing as "repair". Transmission shops do not have the skills, nor the parts, nor the desire, to do a "rebuild" of a CVT, and neither do Nissan dealerships. They just swap out the whole thing as a unit. That's why repairs are so expensive - they are "replacements".
A new model hyundai use the same technology as cvt,but the difference is they use chain instead of using belt in their transmission, so it got to be more durable, they call it IVT,other car manufacturers should adopt this kind of technology
i just got a 2014 sentra i didnt really have a choice it was all that was available at my price point and i needed a car asap i came from a 09 chevy cobalt with 220k miles and that drove better i like the sentra everything is fine except for the trans i cant stand it and it makes me regret buying this car hopefully it'll grow on me over time the owner of the sentra before me had the trans blow at 112k miles so i got it with a remanufactured trans so i hope i can get another 100k miles out of it
I really don't mind them. I have a handful of more interesting and fun vehicles to drive, but I can't complain about the gas mileage on our 2019 Sentra. The computer tells me high 40s, low 50s - hand calculated , it's pretty accurate. I do wish it would CVT under moderate throttle and not fake shifts. Every 15-20k miles, it gets a fluid and filter change. Idemitsu N3 isn't terribly expensive at Napa, not more than regular transmission fluid. The only person I know who had one fail personally was someone who wrecked the front of the car and had a shoddy body shop fix it. They forgot to hook up the radiator fan and the car was driven for a summer with the car constantly overheating. Too much overheating for it. The belt itself isn't the primary cause of failure. It fails from something else failing first.
Pros and cons to everything. One area the CVT shines is cruise control. No transmission is better for riding in cruise control. They're smooth as butter.
I agree with the cruise control but it bothers me that I spent 42 K for a car that I have to change the transmission oil every 25/30 K. To me that sounds like a design flaw. I have a 2016 Murano Platinum with 109 k miles and I am looking for a new car because of hesitation, when starting, changing gears over and over on hills, No more CVT's. No more Nissans.
@stevefarris9433 you don't have to change the fluid that often. Check the owner manual. Most nissans say every 60k if used primarily in extreme use such as towing or taxi driving. Otherwise you have it checked at the dealer with the CONSULT (some sort of scan tool I assume). I won't advocate they're great or for everyone, but they're certainly not nearly as bad as the internet painted them and they just take getting used to.
I had an ‘08 maxima with a cvt that I put a stillen charger (with supporting mods) on it running on 10lbs. I street raced that thing constantly. Only thing I did with the cvt was 2 fluid drain and fills in the 150k miles of ownership. I never had a problem with that cvt. But, my friends ‘13 nismo juke needed a new cvt and car has barely 90k miles and only 2lbs over stock boost. From my experience, the pre ‘12 Nissan cvt’s were just better made
Jatco is the top worst CVTs. Renault went for as cheap as possible, charge more and any possible mpg gain is lost by having to lay on the gas to get power to move! It's just pure car maker greed, and I'm glad I have a plain 4 speed auto. Simple and will last just about forever.
Right. Yeah their claim to fame had to do with fuel economy supposedly. We’ve had this rig for awhile and haven’t noticed much of anything. Also power band is horrible.
I owned an 04 Nissan Quest Van. The transmission went 188k before I sold it in 2023 for a Nissan Truck. Subaru has the CVT in their vehicles and they run fine.
I owned a 2013 Nissan Versa. The transmission failed on me after owning it for a year. I had the CVT replaced for $3500. They had a Nissan of America class action lawsuit. I signed up and recieved a reimbursement check. I no longer own Nissan vehicles. The last time I driven a Nissan was a car rental back in early September. CVTs are good for gas, bad for everything else.
At least they reimbursed you on the repairs. Yeah the CVT is a downfall to the Nissan brand IMO.
You clearly drove it wrong.
The whole point of the CVT was it could keep the engine consistently at its powerband meaning better efficiency smoother drivining etc. Then people thought that was strange and didn't like the way CVTs worked so then various manufacturers started making CVTs that simulated normal automatics with "fake shifts" and to me that defeated the whole point of haviny a CVT in the first place
Yep, from my experience, it feels like it makes it even worse than it already is. Makes the already sluggish car even more sluggish. Simply lovely 😂
Yup.
That's the reason I won't buy one of those now.
Loved the smoothness before, now it's just stupid.
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Its called tiptronic and you don't have to use that if you don't like fake shifting. Posting misinformation makes you look like a dropout fool btw
Experts say that toyota is truly the best CVT?
@@MrAlanToast then yours is busted stop driving broken transmission and give misleading opinions based on that, sigh
I always let the nissan with CVT get rolling for a half second before I roll into the throttle, it engages much more smoothly that way. Also waiting until you feel it “bump” into D or R to let off the brakes instead of slam-shifting and gassing it as soon as the lever’s in the right spot. However that applies to most automatics not just belt-driven models
THIS, my mirage shares the same trans as the versa and sentra, I always let it do the little bump into drive, just feels like the right thing to do.
yeah, it makes me cringe when I see people just slam the transmission into the next mode when the car is still rolling.
Then you have the ones that throw it in park when the car is still moving a decent amount and it jolts off the parking pawl.
@@infiniteblaz3416 i feel that cringe in my stomach lmao it's as if they parked, got out, and just kicked the car for 5 minutes before going inside
When you think about it, the only safe gear to shift into when moving is neutral, and even that shift you should be careful. And people need to learn that unless you're gonna be waiting a while, don't bother shifting into park while waiting, it causes just as much wear doing that as it does waiting while in drive.
All transmissions seem to have the “one Mississippi, two Mississippi” engagement theses days. My ‘18 Mustang with the 10 speed automatic does the same thing. So if you’re reversing out the driveway and hitting the gas as soon as you go to D, you’re going to make trouble for yourself.
Great video. I have a CVT trash mission for a 2009 Altima, I change the stepper motor then I change the valve body from a 2012 car, nothing works my car doesn't have reverse and goes 20 miles and hour, why the gears doesn't shifted? any idea? Thx
Check the wet clutches
I have a 2014 Altima. CVT was replaced at ~40000 miles. I have been replacing the CVT fluid every 10,000 miles. Now it has 155000 miles and is doing fine. 🤞
Keep that streak going 😁
if you have to replace the fluid every 10,000 mi , just sell the trash can !
We have a 2018 Mitsubishi outlander. And fluid is supposed to be changed at 30,000 mile intervals. We will see.
That's 2 soon lol
That's the problem, if you need to replace fluid that often, how much are you really saving on fuel? Cvt supposed to be more economical.
got a 2010 Altima with over 250k on it and still original transmission. did a fluid and filter change recently. still going perfectly fine. no complaints here
Nice!
You're the one!
There's always an exception to the rule.
@@nodak81so majority are the exception to this rule? Majority of people that does the right maintainance doesn’t have troubles.
@@rafaelg9016the rule is that most people don't do proper maintenance of transmissions. Every car manufacturer knows that. Smart car manufacturers expect that and engineer their transmissions accordingly.
I don't know if you heard about Dacia. I just wanted to buy a dacia logan with jatco cvt transmission wich was on nissan juke (code DXK or DXK0). Have arrived at dealership with cash in my hand tu buy it but after I saw all this videos with problems on this gearshift a refuze to buy it. Now I'm asking if I did a mistake or it was a good idea to buy it for ride sharing
I'm sorry, you make a couple valid points but are way off on others. Yes CVT's in cars can suck for reliability when compared to other reliable transmissions. But don't forget not all traditional auto trans were reliable. There have been many duds through the years.
Your missteps:
Using headphone I never heard CVT whine in your vid. I've never heard CVT whine in a CVT equipped vehicle. Sometimes you get engine whine in cheaper setups where the engine is being held at in it's power band.
Powerband....Traditional transmissions are incapable of hold an engine in it's power band like a CVT. If the CVT isn't doing so it is A: programmed not to do so (in order to simulate shift to a certain extent) or B: failing. Not all CVT's simulate the fake shifts. I've driven several that do not. One example is the Nissan Pathfinder.
There are different ways to drive different transmission. Though I agree the reliability should not be drastically affected from "normal" driving.
Yes CVT's will get better fuel economy than a traditional automatic transmission. You can't say you don't see it unless you have the exact same car driven the exact same manner in both traditional auto trans and a CVT. I mean...what are you comparing it with to make that claim?
The oil change issue...I agree most won't but that's user error if the manual specifies it. What would happen if you never changed your engine oil? The SAME THING, but faster. So it's good you bring this point up. READ YOUR MANUAL PEOPLE. The maintenance schedules were created by the manufacturers to ensure the vehicle lasts for it's guaranteed amount of time.
Look I'm not a CVT fan boy by any stretch. I think they work fine in ATV's and SXS's but the more power and weight you put on them the more the reliability seems hit or miss. I largely think this is an engineering problem as CVT's in vehicles is relatively new. Just think about all the dud traditional automatics that manufacturers have made in the past.
A CVT that's programmed to be a CVT rather than simulate a tradition trans is the smoothest you'll ever ride in a gas powered car. Unfortunately they have a bad wrap because in many cases they weren't engineered to be as tough as their traditional trans counterparts.
My biggest gripe with CVT's as should be yours is the reason auto makers started putting them in cars to begin with...To meet GOVERNMENT regulations!!! The government is continually forcing products on us that we don't really want... Just this year Dodge stopped making their V8 Hemi engine due to the regulations. One of their if not their most popular engine options. Have you notice all cars are getting smaller and smaller engines that are usually turbo charged? This isn't because turbo's are the cool new thing. It's because you can strangle more horses out of an engine with a turbo. But this comes at a cost of reliability and longevity.
The CVT transmission does give you higher gas mileage , But Nissan has done something very different They are configuring their vehicles, so did you have to take it back to the dealership to To have general maintenance on a vehicle.
Do you know anything about reliability on Honda Civic. I have to use an auto box due to limitations with my left leg. I have the choice of a CVT auto or iShift (manual with auto clutch). What would you recommend?
Looking for a good used car is discouraging right now. Newer vehicles fall into two general categories: those with bad engines and those with bad transmissions.
Right! Or just buy a new whip for the small price of a middle class house that needs a transmission or an engine. Lolol
Ugly looking and weak bodies as well. New models suck
Or just buy a Toyota lol
@@shaungranger2166Even Toyotas are falling down the spiral of unreliable transmissions. At this point. Just buy a babied 2000s or older car. They don’t make things like they used to.
Don't forget ones that aren't maintained like a used rogue with 80k miles with original fluid in the trans. Gee I wonder why it's slipping?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
Nissan rogue on mine doesn’t even have a dipstick for the transmission. I had some weird problems with mine change the fluid. Hopefully that works.
Yeah this one does weird stuff as well, also with no dipstick. You can buy a dipstick on amazon for 10 bucks.
Bought a 2014 Altima last month, resold it 23 days later, something was wrong with that car that the dealer couldn’t figure out. These are good new and they are good as trade in cars, not used or long lived car. Don’t expect more than 10 years out of it.
Yeah sounds about right.
What about the 2 filters that should be changed along with the fluid flush & fill every 20-30,000 miles.
Scotty says he's never seen a Toyota CVT fail yet but has seen several Nissan ones fail.
Who?
Kilmer
@@martinr8278 I guess you don't watch car repair videos much. He's a RUclips mechanic for decades and has millions of viewers.
That’s because at least in their hybrids Toyota uses e-CVT which has planetary gears. I don’t know about their regular petrol CVT models. They’re rare in our market.
@@martinr8278 Some cranky old man who rants on youtube
My first and last nissan. Never again nissan. Bought 2 years ago and the repaircost is higher then the price i bought the car.
Right! Spot on with the repair costs. What repairs have you done?
@@Manvscars
I brought the car to the nissan dealer where i bought. Still not repaired.
I bought 2 years ago for 11.000 Euro and the repaircost will be around 11.500 Euro.
I give it to my lawyer to handle this case.
Btw i had no accident. This is just what need to be repaired from engine. 🤮
I drive car for more then 30 years. I never give to lawyer if my car need to be repaired. This is first time. The repaircost is shocking me. Never again Nissan.🤮
I have 3 Nissan and never had a problem since 10 years. It’s your karma because you know how to care of your engines.
@@Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am
Nothing to do with me.
I brought my Nissan to 4 different service because no one wants to repair the CVT of Nissan. I called 30 service and explained and asked if they can repair.
Answer: No
This is a Nissan quality problem.
At the end i found i service station they can repair. It cost me more then 5.000 Euro. The guy from service told me Nissan CVT not good.
This not only quality problem of Nissan. Even the service from Nissan Europe not good.
My first and last Nissan.
Without knowing what you bought, whether it was new or used and without you saying what the actual mechanical problems you have, your comment is largely irrelevant. If it was a new car, then yes, fair enough to complain. If it was something with a bit of age and a heap of mileage, then that isn't so surprising.
Good luck taking legal action. Who is at fault, Nissan or the dealer who sold you the vehicle?
It's no surprise at all that the repair costs increase in relation to the purchase price and current market value as a car ages. All cars suffer wear and need maintenance, that's not just a Nissan thing.
I have a 2013 Nissan versa with 150,000 and my transmission is failing. im juggling if i should get it fixed or if i should get something else. Is it worth it?
If the vehicle is in great shape it might be. However it's a tough tipping point for most people when the repair cost is more than the value of the vehicle.
Do you think that as a senior, if you drive them conservatively and give them the maintenance they require, they could last as a normal automatic?
never. there is a mash of thin metal bands, vs big hard metal gears
What about the new cars like 2021 onwards?? Because im sure with any technology it gets improved each year following all the problems and complaints.Let us know us about the new 1nz because im looking at a 2023 Rogue
I'm unsure about the new models. I'm hopeful some improvements have to be made of course. If I come up with some answers I'll gladly report.
Nissan went CVT (on the Altima) in 2007, those early units weren't great, but I understand they could regularly go 120K, by 2010-2012, the units got worse, going out sub 75K, with failures at 30K pretty common... then they started slowly improving again. Sort of an odd learning curve, probably too many accountants in the engineering department at JATCO, shaving pennies.
Got a 2022 qashqai from rental and it stalled when i was leaving them. They gave me another one to drive. I don't trust it though. 😃
The other problem I have with CVTs is that the fluid and filter cost like 2-3x more than a regular ATF and filter. So, whatever fuel savings I get from the CVT is cancelled out from periodic maintenance.
Considering the Fairlady Zs have a normal automatic, why not use that on some of these cars?
I think the v6 CVTs like my 2009 Murano fares better. Because with the power of that engine, i can get up and go and not exceed 2000rpm so the CVT doesnt have to spin has fast. I let the car roll a bit before I press gas. I drive it pretty gently. 110k miles on original CVT.
I’ve test driven one fully loaded couple of years ago and I actually liked it. So much space in that thing and it was so comfortable. As for the CVT, I really didn’t like how whiny it became when you accelerate. Something felt wrong 😂. Drove for about 20 minutes inside of traffic and stopped for couple of minutes and I was shocked by the fuel economy when I turned off the car. 6.8/100km with the 4WD on auto mind you. Those are Toyota Corolla numbers. At least the 2.0 ones. I’m kind of tempted to get one and I don’t blame others who choose to get one either.
Basically he said all CVT transmissions. While ignoring the fact that the original Prius is one of the most reliable cars ever made. Transmission included.
Just bought a 2024 Outlander ES gas. First time owning a vehicle with CVT transmission. When stuck in traffic on highway going between 20-35km per hour, the car makes a slight jerk when using gas pedal to break and accelerate, also makes slight jerks when breaking between 20km per hour to 0 (full stop). Does anybody know if this is a normal function for cvt's?
Normal.
The cvt in the Highlander is made by the same makers (Jatco) then the cvts in Nissans… get the extended warranty if you decide to keep this vehicle more then then the warranty period… also do the fluid changes every 25,000 miles… keep all receipts…. But honestly, I wouldn’t tow with it..
If you are a DIY ,Changing the CVT fluid is as easy as changing the oil . Just more expensive.Just changed mine at 52k. 3 3/4 qts. Black Black Black.New fluid is a clearish light blue/greenish color. Has been running like a top since the day I bought it. Honestly, my transmission doesn’t make any noise at all. Keep my fingers crossed.Note: the entire transmission holds about 6 quarts but when you do a change only three and three-quarter quarts come out
Did you change both filters? One in the pan, and one on the side of the transmission.
@@scrambler69-xk3kvOf course.Watched every video on RUclips before I jumped in
The "special" way to drive them is by not hitting the gas pedal from a dead stop, stop light or stop sign. Also, you need to let the CVT fluid warm up for 3 minutes from a cold start, fluid must be at a certain temperature before operating. When you hit the gas pedal from a dead stop or start the vehicle from a cold start and start driving without the warmup, you will decrease the life of the CVT.
ahhh, baby it and don't move it until fluid reaches operating temp. Got it. To add on to that the cooling for the transmission fluid is also horrible. So don't let it get toooo hot.
I was told to drive it like a granpaw would drive - slow to accelerate, let it idle before driving especially on cold days.
Drive it like no one hs ever driven from the beginning of time. Cars are expected to take a certain amount of abuse. I would think that hitting the gas from a dead stop should cause no damage to a modern automobile.
@@DigitDesign You would think, but to save money some mfg no longer care about reliable transmissions or motors. CVT transmissions are the worst and must be pampered to get 100K life without any issue. Most regular transmissions are durable and are capable of reasonable abuse such as gassing it from a dead stop, doing donuts, drifting and minor off roading (sedans) in emergency situations. But the CVT's are horrible, I have one, not by choice, but I have had all mfg suggested maintenance done on it since i owned it new and no issues so far with 112K on it.
@@gregnixon1296 Sad but true, I have a CVT and I must drive it exactly as you described. I now have 112K on it, but it still runs like new and when I'm on the hwy, the passing gear is still fast, i was surprised by that, but it runs smooth.
Thank god Mazda at the very least gave the 3 a 6 speed auto although an 8 speed would have been nice.
The Kia Forte GT-Line cvt had no issues but I only put 20,000 miles on it.
Apparently I’m a traditional transmission guy lol. I’ve always liked Mazda products. They do a great job.
I own a 2013 Altima and no issues with the CVT transmission by avoiding jack rabbit starts and hard stops which is pretty typical of how I see most drivers doing on the road today. I regularly get 34 mpg highway and 29 mpg local driving.
If you drive the CVTs like a rally car it will certainly breakdown
Id rather have a manual transmission where they last forever and i can open them up and fix gears if needed.
@@bobmalonza6929I do burn outs I have 140000 mine
@@bobmalonza6929I drove my cvt very hard on my 16 altima and it didn't fail. My 19 altima cvt works very good and had 200k.
brokie + normie
My wife loves her 2017 Rogue. With 141K miles, CVT gave out last year and I limped it to the dealership for her. $7,000 parts/labor, her treat. Other issues: Front wheel bearings went out @ 73K, left rear brake caliper chewed a rotor @ 127K, minor intermittent electrical ghosts, no tranny dipstick, and body panels made from recycled Coors Light cans. I don't get it. Then again, I have a 2009 Tacoma with terminal frame rust, so I'm leading in the race to the junk yard.
I used to drive a lot of different cars as a car dealer service helper back in university. Hyundai CVTs in particular on the accent and venue felt like rubber bands with molasses delay. A complete snooze fest next to the Mitsubishi Mirage cvt. Honda ones are so so but I have a 20 Civic Sport Hatchback and surprisingly it is very responsive, even with the cvt. It feels great and already has 44k miles of...very abusive driving haha. Try merging on the Chicago expressway without a lead foot and you won't get far! Major thing I do is replace the fluid every 30k miles.
I had a 2011 Honda CRV, but I managed to drive it 12 years without a CVT failure, but I only drove it 147,000 km. (91,341 miles) I don't know if Honda had failures with those CVTs or not. I remember doing a transmission flush at least once at the Honda dealership. Whatever they recommended I did. Now I have a 2023 RAV4 Hybrid, but they have an eCVT, and the only thing in common with the CVT is those 3 letters according to Car Care Nut. They don't have any belt, and Car Care Nut describes them as very reliable. He's a Master Toyota Diagnostician, and I believe him. When I bought our Honda, I had no idea what a CVT transmission really was. But I had no complaints about that transmission. I don't like to accelerate fast because that's a waste of fuel, so maybe that is what that comment before meant about how you drive it? Maybe if a person hits the accelerator hard it puts more stress on the CVT transmission?
Yeah it seems the common theme with the Nissan CVT is the cooling situation for the transmission isn't very good. So fluid changes are very important. Yeah I would agree if you were "beating" on the vehicle like harsh accelerations all the time that failures would arise. However I'm like you with this particular vehicle as well. Fuel savings. I do like those rav4's too. Great fuel economy and a great looking vehicle.
hello fellow car care nut fan
@@trevordoeshalloween5994
Just about to buy a used Nissan with a CVT. I will say that it is a 2y.o. replacement in a 2009 model X Trail, but the current owner hasn't had any issues with it. Also not sure about the noise comments. On the test drive I didn't find it at all noisy, or hear it make sounds it shouldn't. I actually found it very responsive. Best of my understanding is the CVT failures we hear of are from drivers giving them a good work-out off-road, or constantly carrying full payloads and/or towing. Don't punish them, keep oil fresh and temperatures down and they aren't as unreliable as many make out.
Um...an 11 Honda CRV has a regular transmission, not a cvt.
Your video is great. Thank you for the information. CVTs are not going away,,, for better or worse they are here to stay in IGP engines. I currently own a Rogue with the "new and improved" CVT. I believe they got rid of the metal belt and replaced it with a "chain drive system". I may be incorrect??? Hopefully they upgraded the small cooling system?? That said... This is my 4th Jatco CVT,, (Nissan owned). I have never trusted the manufactures about their recommended maintenance schedule. I am an old man so,, I have the fluids changed every 20K,, along with the filter system! As stated in an earlier comment,, the " special way" to drive a CVT,, If you want longevity is to NEVER go from a "stop" and leave the line quickly! Gradual acceleration is the only wat to drive these things. That thin metal belt acts like a rubber band. it will stretch and YOU will regret that! once up to speed you can drive it like any other car. As you said.. I don't think the MPG is a lot better than a normal system. My Rogue is an AWD Platinum. It is a good sized crossover and where i drive I average 35 MPG. I'm happy with that. I have never had a problem with any of my CVT cars but maybe I just got lucky.. As for the noise,, I sang in a rock band for years and I cant hear high pitches. HA! Thanks again. Rev
Conducted, or considered new plugs (iridium), fuel injector additive flush or replacements?
CVT filters / screen replacement as well as possible additive? (Lube Gard)
Best -
Sorry, forgot.
New coil packs. Could possibly improve your consumption?
My Nissan Rogue owners manual doesn’t even specify a transmission fluid change interval. I wonder how many people lost their transmission due to this lack of instruction.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2017 Sentra, 65,000 miles, looks showroom (I'm an auto detailer; it better). My CVT was $5,200 and replaced at about 60,000 miles a year or so ago. My warranty was to expire in 3 days and went in for an oil change. They offered to replace it and gave me a loaner car. I did not detect any problem with it, other than a little "clank" when putting it in gear; something I assumed all older cars do. It did not whine and the new one doesn't either.
I'm basing my post on what you've said and my car, not on others' comments. I do think the CVT cars should be driven differently than conventional transmissions. I joke and say mine goes 0 - 60 in about 3 hours. But it really can do it in about 2. You must change your fluids, do not drive over 85, never pass with it (it has no overdrive to boost) unless you have a clear mile to do it (that isn't a joke), never tow anything, always use your parking brake when you put it in park and before you let off the brake- always. Warm it up until it falls under or around 1000 RPM (2 minutes) before driving, never pull out in moving traffic (you can't get up speed), drive like you are 65, retired and have nowhere to go fast. It's best if you're over 45 and patient.
I am going to make this 2nd transmission last and I'm grateful Nissan gave it to me and I never asked why. I'm getting a motorcycle for about the price of a transmission and keep the miles off my car except when it rains or I need to carry something. I bought it new so it's paid for (no car payment is bliss), I have nothing but a battery invested in it, it looks new and I don't want to buy someone's used car.
New cars are too expensive, I don't want a car payment and I like mine, so I have no plans to replace it and I put less than 2500 miles on it now anyway. I had a 2015 Sentra before this one, but someone hit me so I bought another. I would not buy one again however, knowing what I do now. Aside from the CVT itself, it has absolutely no power at all. I'm stupid that I didn't inform myself better. 124 HP sucks but I do like my car otherwise.
I got a prius with 175.000 miles no issues with my cvt at this time and I did have the fluid change already tho
My 2017 rogue has not been that bad it has 70,000 miles and I had the transmission serviced at 60,000 miles. Still runs and drives like new even though I can’t stand how it drives at all.
Yeah honestly the car for me has been ok in terms with the engine and other components. The CVT failed at 95,000 miles for me. I agree with the driver “feel” experience lol. But it’s economy class I suppose.
wait till you get close to 100,000 miles. There are no transmission rebuilding or parts to replace. There is only replacing the whole CVT, which costs at a minimum $4,000. That's a hard pill to swallow
@@christiansoto9755And with replacement, they’re only guaranteed for 12 months… no faith in these cvts lol… in the industry.
I have a 2017 Sentra and I changed my transmission fluid 15 times trying to make it last
I know people with CVT's (including Nissan) that are 300,000 KM (186,000 miles) that are still going. Mind you they did all the maintenance and did transmission fluid changes when they were supposed to and put in the fluid designed for the tranny. The other factor is that they are all on 4 bangers around 2.0L so they are not being driven that hard. Ignore maintenance on a tried and true old school torque flite, turbo 350 etc. and they will expire before their time as well
Tell that to the thousands of people with CVTs failing at 40k miles or even less. I can't think of any traditional automatic with a failure rate anywhere close to Jatco's crappy CVTs. The only transmission comparable is Ford's awful Powershift DCT.
Thank you for bringing the concerns of the transmission to our attention . The video can give the impression that Nissan made a bad transmission design, put their head in the sand, and continued to put bad transmissions in their vehicles without making any adjustments to improve its design. They would be out of business quickly if they did that.
Changing the transmission fluid is a key thing to do, of course, and making sure you make a full stop before switching gears.
From Nissan. "The CVT had a major hardware update for the 2013 model year, which included a reduced-friction design, a wider ratio spread, and a belt that could better handle high torque outputs."
This does not mean its perfect, but its much better than the older CVT transmissions
You think the regular cvt is bad the hybrid cvt is even worst where th electric motor actually breaks after 100.000 km and stalls the entire vehicle on the road
Nissan could improve their CVT. I believe the E-CVT transmissions are extremely reliable.
My wife has a 2020 Murrano, I have a 2024 Rogue and my son has a 2016 Sentra. No issues with the transmissions on any of the cars.
My buddy's 2019 nissan kicks CVT just blew up on him a few days ago at 90k miles, and he had been changing the trans fluid and keeping the car maintained. It also wasnt a cold day (it was about 60 degrees). The only thing is that he is a bit of an aggressive driver. But he was otherwise conscientious about his car. It surprised me a bit because I thought they had sorted the issues with the cvt in more recent models and that the 2019 would hold up since it presumably has the "new and improved" cvt. It seems like you need all the stars to align to keep these things from failing.
And btw I personally enjoy the driving experience with the nissan cvt, which i had in some recent rental cars (Versas), but i wasnt trying to drive aggressive. Even though ive enjoyed the rental experience of cvt cars, i dont feel assured about the ownership experience.
90k miles on a kicks.. how do you drive a kicks... aggressively? Like... what? Bottom line is when CVT fluid changed and the cars are driven like a normal daily driver most of the time unless you need to floor it randomly to pass or merge.... zero problems.
@@TGZ32 aggressively as in going 90mph on the highway instead of 60, and accelerating harder as opposed to easier from dead stops. But he was changing the cvt fluid and otherwise maintaining the car.
See lots of complaints, but my 2021 Nissan Altima with 34,000 miles on it runs great….so maybe got lucky so far…..but wondering if I should flush or change fluid to N3 fluid with filter….can’t get straight answer from dealerships as to filter change either….so kinda concerned overall.
I would recommend changing it. These units do seem to build up a large amount of heat which causes the fluid to breakdown. The fluid change and filter change cost is minimal. Fresh fluid can't hurt unless it's too late.
@@Manvscars kinda figured as such…much thanks 👍. However some are saying don’t need filter change for 2021 Nissan Altima…..who is correct….would think with sifter inside filter you would need to extract from metal casing…correct?
@@williamzee7748 Change it, It looks like a cartridge style filter and its in a housing next to the cooler. 4 bolts. They cost around $10. Worth it!
@@Manvscars Thanks again….👍
2017 Altima here, change my fluid every 30K, almost up to 90K now, still good. Keep in mind a "drain and fill" only gets 4.7 quarts (out of 7) and if you drop the pan, you can get pretty close to 5 quarts out AND you can clean the magnet, pop in a new filter. Drain and fill means you leave 30% or so of old fluid behind, so at 79K I pulled the pan for the first time, everything looked good, then at 86K I pulled the pan again, "flushing" it with 10 quarts (over 7K miles) and I figure it got my trans to about 91% good fluid with about 5% okay fluid, and about 2.5% really bad old fluid. Its impossible to get rid of ALL the old fluid, no matter how many times you flush it. One of the drawbacks to drain and fill v cooler line total replacement (NOT RECOMENDED FOR CVT). I've heard of them going past 200K with regular drain and fills though.
I just rented a 23' Maxima last week in Quebec (the car had just over 3K kilometers on it, literally almost brand new). My first experience with a CVT and I must say I was not impressed. I noticed that you could never really find a good spot on the throttle when pulling into traffic and also Quebec is very hilly and the trans seemed to always be bogging in the wrong spots. The cruise control was really bad in that the car would constantly surge on and off especially as you're going downhill. I like the Maxima as far as the interior, the ride was pretty good, the MPG was pretty good, the power was good if you completely mashed the throttle. But, every time I parked the car, I could smell what seemed like burnt oil coming from under the car. I first thought it was the brakes when I parked, so I walked around and sniffed each wheel and nope, it was coming from the mid part of the car where, yep you guessed it, where the CVT is located. So, not a fan of the CVT and anyone who tries to support them are only doing it because they bought a car with one and they are trying to save face. Good luck people.
Sounds about right, spot on!
Accelerating on the interstate is slow. My CVT won’t get out of its own way.
true that! @@gregnixon1296
Me I really disappointed with nissan I bought nissan pathfinder 2018 with 64k now 72k I heard something weird noise on the motor I hope it will last a little bit so that I can swap it on mazda or Toyota....
@@joevenharo6589 Trade it while it has some life left in it.
Apparently, Nissan and Mitsubishi are using the same CVT from Jatco, but why does Nissan have a worse reputation for CVTs? Does anyone know of any mechanical differences between these two brands?
Renault uses the JATCO tranny too
2014 Altima w/ 197k miles, I change the CVT fluid and filters every 30k, I run Pennz Ultra Platinum in the engine with a Purolator BOSS filter change every 4k, also other parts/ fluids as well.
It's been a great car, especially for road trips. It's not fun to drive however, but that's not why I bought it.
My 2012 Altima has over 218,000 miles on it. Original engine. Original transmission. I change the oil every 3000 miles. Drain and fill the transmission fluid every 30,000 miles. The car has been good to me.
Exactly.
I've seen a few of them last, specifically if they were only highway driven and well maintained. However, I saw enough of them fail in the time before I left the automotive industry that I won't recommend friends or family buy one. I also have a coworker who lost his 2013 Nissan Versa to CVT failure. Cost was more than the car was worth so it was scrapped.
That's a lot of changes. A lot of people hate gm but I do my oil changes every 10k miles and have never changed the transmission fluid on my 2015 Cadillac XTS and zero problems at over 70 thousand miles 😂
Wow that's terrible. Engine oil at 3k and trans at 30k is way too often for a modern car. Big waste of money. How much are you really saving on gas on cvt?
@@mofayer the actual requirements should be engine oil/filter at 20000 miles or annually and CVT at 60000 miles. Carrol synthetic Transmax CVT meets the new Nissan standard is is about the same as the engine oil.
I have one in my 2017 civic and i hate it wish i would of done my research
Yeah, same with the Nissan
I noticed that infinity 2023 qx60 has gone back to a standard gear transmission.
Really, Manual in a crossover? Sounds fake. lol
No, not straight drive but a regular automatic transmission.
@@aljones9114 oh oh oh! yeah that's right. I think it's a 9 speed too.
Toyota and Lexus vehicles use a planetary gear arrangement to produce a CVT, not a belt. When paired to a hybrid system they appear to be bomb proof and in Lexus's case pretty quiet. If you are gunning away from every junction then it is still not the transmission for you, but if you want relaxed cruising at highway speeds with good gas miles, then probably not much better around.
Nissan doesn't use a belt anymore either, it's some type of chain driven cvt.
My first CVT experience was a rental Mitsubishi Mirage. That thing droned like crazy. Second experience was a 2016 Altima that I purchased. It wasn’t horrible and the fake shift points helped with the drone but it was extremely boring.
change the oil every 30,000 miles ,,i just did my 2018 rouge ,,an nissan gave me a 7 year 84,000 mile warranty cant beat that oil is it blood ,,
I agree with the things you say, but between myself and parent's that have CVT transmissions, gotta be running on luck. 2010 Altima with 120k miles, 2012 Versa with 85k miles no problems. I just don't get how these companies just don't go back to putting in regular automatics. I would think with all the negative feedback, warranty repair, etc. that all of the brands and reputation get tarnished and well lastly listen to customer feedback
U lust luck
My moms 09 Altima just hit 201k and is running good🤷🏿♂️
Had a 2016 Altima 3.5 SR. Transmission started slipping at 32k miles. Sold it to carmax for $15k and bought mazda3 because it's practically the only compact car (wanted a smaller car) without a cvt.
I was considering a 2024 Honda HRV, but not any more, since they have CVT’s. Now, looking at Mazda CX30, Toyota RAV4, naturally aspirated versions. Thanks for your presentation.
Isn't the Rav4 cvt as well
i will say in some cases they do improve fuel economy, my friend gets 38-40 mpg in his 2021 civic 1.5t with the cvt and when i baby my 2019 civic Si with the same engine and a 6 speed manual i’m getting barely 30.
What about e-CVT ???
Can we get a video on Nissan's latest CVT that they like, redid? It's only in the 2021+ Nissans (I think)
The cvt in 21 were completely redesigned… they are much better 21 and up… this is according to the techs at Nissan , and corroborated by the industry experts…
I have two and really like the CVT... change fluid often and it's fine
Right on, yeah changing the fluid is crucial. I agree.
Add Oil Extreme Concentrate to Your CVT.
As used around the World on Honda Fitt/Jazz and BMW Mini CVT 2002-2006
I have a 2019 Nissan Rogue with CVT, naturally. I have read lots about proper treatment of CVT'S. Basically, I really like the quickness, but I baby it. Had the oil changed at 30plus K. Gas mileage has been as high as 38 mpg, but it is usually around 30 on average. Hope I can keep gremlins at bay with goog service. I am not a lead-foot driver, but am easy and steady.
Maintenance in CVTs is like a capricious girlfriend who you have to buy a lot of gifts for every date so she doesn't leave you.
Hope it doesn't fail . 6 grand to replace
I got a 2022 Nissan Sentra got it last year didn’t run to no transmission problem yet I put 50k miles on it.
Nice! This rogue didn't have an issue until 95k.
Just purchased a 2014 nissan juke acenta, less than 3months, and the transmission seems it's coming through the floor. Got collected by the dealer who said he can fix it ,? If it comes back giving me shit.than i will back it ,will not purchased a car with CVT..Again....
same
I know that you are not supposed to try to drag race with these transmissions, they won't last long if you have made alot of fast starts. Just slowly and reasonably engage the acceleration, don't treat them like a racecar because they are anything but. I was told this by a Nissan representative when I bought a 2011 Nissan Rogue. Now I have a 2015 Nissan Rogue Select and I have no problem with it but the mileage is only 14,300 and I still avoid fast takeoff with it. Call it babying it if you want but I like it so far, I only paid 19k for it when I bought it new and have had it 8 years so I feel like I got a bargain.
I hope no one plans to drag race these things...lol However, that might make for a good video? hmmm...
I have a 2018 Nissan Sentra the transmission decided to blow after coming off a 1-inch drop from a parking lot to a main road and we're going to send it back because Nissan just isn't what it used to be
I've had my Nissan CVT for seven years and it was built in Japan. It seems good, so far. It is a Tiida Latio, a Versa in America. I have changed the transmission fluid twice over the last 80000 kms.
It only has a 1500cc motor and I don't go over 3500 revs on the tach. There is no need too.
Good motoring.
Owned 3 Nissans, never had an issue. Maintenance is the key.
Own a 2013 Altima and 2016 maxima purchased both new . I change the cvt fluid every 30k and both are running like the day of they we’re purchased. , maintenance is key
they drive fast and dont maintain their cars then bch why cvt sucks.
The crazy part is that apparently CVTs are cheaper to make, how come they are more expensive to replace?
You hear about problems in Murano 2024?
I had a 2015 Murano and the trans kept slipping. It wouldn't move the car from a standing start. I was lucky when after taking it back to the dealer four times, the area engineer was there and he took it out, came back and told the dealer to replace the trans. That car was totaled a month later and I bought another Murano 2016 (my 3rd) That trans started slipping with only 3,000 miles and the dealer immediately started playing the lemon law game with me. A call to Nissan West Point GA and they called the dealer who claimed there was nothing wrong with it. The car also had a high frequency vibration in the steering system (more common in smaller Nissan SUVs) that made it painful to hold the wheel at highway speeds. The dealer claimed they felt nothing but never took it on the highway to really test it. I called a lawyer, and he told me he tried suing the dealer before but lost because they were experts at playing the lemon law game. It was Preston Nissan in Preston MD. I later found out Nissan used statistical analysis to determine they sold more cars to new customers than returning customers, (probably because they didn't like getting screwed on warranties) so they decided to screw the current customers and rely on screwing new ones! Never buy another Nissan or any car from Preston.
Have to diy on fluid change not based on some paperwork.
Diy and use exactly fluid for the transmission from dealerships .
My 2019 chr and 2020 corolla le runs sweet like the first day I got it.
I have a 2017 nissan sentra with 120,000 miles with no issues. I bought it new and its served me well. If and when the cvt dies, ill just have to get another car.
I bought a new Prius in 2011. Put 100,000 miles with no trouble on a CVT transmission.
My mom drove a 2008 suzuki sx4 sedan with a CVT. She just donated it to Teen challenge last year with 320 thousand kms on it. It was still driving fine, but the car’s accessories started getting electrical gremlins from rusted grounds and connections. It had no “fake shifts”, it accelerated at a fairly steady rpm. She bought it before i even knew much about CVTs in cars. I would describe the acceleration or power feeling as like it was wound up with a clock spring or rubber band…. Starts kind of slow, but then gets going all behind a steady push of G force. Similar to an electric car, but with much less torque. Not sure why Nissan is struggling with them so bad… suzuki had it down more than 15 years ago!
My friend bought a 2010 rogue for 5 grand transmission failed less then a yr she had it. She bought it from auto solutions repair shop . The owner told her he fixed everything on it. The shop did nothing
I am surprised the aftermarket hasn't come up with solutions to these problems. I haven't found any rebuild kits or transmission swap solutions anywhere. My uncle's 2014 QX60 hybrid is in pristine condition and runs perfectly except for the transmission shudder problem. I feel like there is a MASSIVE market for this.
I was surprised to learn that the eCVT in totota's hybrids don't even have a belt.
Right! ECVT has nothing to do with CVT. The way Toyota hybrids work, they don't need a transmission at all. What they have is basically a differential (sometimes Toyota calls it the power split device) that connects the engine and MG1 (small electric motor) together so they work in synergy. There is no torque converter, no clutches at all and, most importantly, no belts.
@@demagabjust slight correction, there’s two electric motors contained in the power spit device. MG1 and MG2, MG1 is connected to the engine and works as the “starter motor” and generator for charging the battery. MG2 is the larger traction motor responsible for propulsion and regenerative braking. It can work tandem with the ICE to propel the car by varying electrical resistance with MG1 or on its own at lower speeds for a few miles (EV
mode). For AWD drive model’s they added a third motor generator for powering the rear wheels on-demand and also adds to the regenerative capabilities.
Had a 2012 Rogue that went into limp mode each summer. Nissan said we can fix it for $1900. I put in an aux generic trans cooler & changed the fluid each summer. It fixed the limp mode but trans always whined. At 97K some guy hit it while my wife was driving. I am glad the SUV is gone. Bought a Mazda CX-5 with trans gears. Problem solved.
I have a 2012 maxima since 2020. No issues w the cvt at all up to date. 91k miles. I change the oil twice ( nissan oem) my car has good power but i do notice the lack of power at the same time. I put a air intake in the car and it accelerates better and gives the engine that nice rawww sound. I can say this will be the last time i do buy a car with cvt because of the high % of failers. But the bad news is all auto makers are using cvt. But i only hope for the best for ppl that have cvt in their cars. Change your oil every 30k. Use the official brand rather than aftermarket.
It's a problem mostly endemic to Nissan (Jatco) CTVs. Seems like they were not designed to handle a lot of torque from larger engines but on smaller displacement applications, they seem fine. Toyota and Honda CVTs seem to fair better with Toyota now primarily using a CVT with an actual 1st gear that used when driving off from a complete stop to reduce the strain on the belt.
I rented a 2022 Toyota Corolla with a CVT and it was actually one of the better CVT's I've driven. The Toyota models have a "launch gear" and the whole driving experience was very smooth, the transmission was very well behaved for a CVT with no wild rpm fluctuations.
It WILL slip n'slide eventually. Just give it time.
@@Afrocanuknah those mofos last, it's a Toyota. They put that transmission through the ringer to make sure it could have that badge placed onto it. Already have a friend that has 265,000 on his 2021 Corolla SE (same car as 2022)
I have a 2014 Corolla with CVT, at 110k miles so far with no issue. I know CVTs have a bad rap but so far this one has been perfect (if a bit droney).
I don't understand why they go into the trouble just ti save less than 5% on fuel
Bummer, It was my dream to have a Nissan Murano 2007 as a first car. Dont think it would be smart 😢
Are Honda and Toyota's better? If so how much better? I'm tired of cvt's but every manufacturer is putting it in everything
I think they are all known to have some issues but the actual feedback I can give honestly is on the Nissan. (Because I’ve owned since new) with that being said I have driven them and the response is similar but longevity I can’t speak on. Never had to do anything but maintenance to the Hondas and Toyotas.
Honda and Toyota cvts are much much better built… as a mechanic, I can say this with complete certainty… the cooling systems in Honda, and Toyota are much better able to keep the cvts cooler as well… an Uber driver had a 14’ Corolla equipped with a cvt that lasted for 325k miles, and he beat the hell out of it.. had a lead foot… and Honda which I have a 2013 accord with a cvt still going @ 170k miles.. their failure rate is almost nonexistent under 150k without proper maintenance… of course with the proper maintenance, 200k miles is no problem on the vast majority of them… Nissan has jatco who build their cvts… they have a history of being a trans-garbage transmission manufacturer …Honda and Toyota make their own .. for the most part..
@@donovanfahrbach2493 do the nissan cvt’s heat because of going at a high speed or only because of revving high rpm’s?
@@XDMIIIIIIIII Nissan CVT’s over heat primarily because the cooling system for the transmission fluid is inadequate… I speak of pre 21 models…plus the cvt themselves are not built like Honda’s or Toyotas…in the Nissans, those units ran hot… many Nissan owners have had an auxiliary cooler installed which helped tremendously… pre 2021 models I’m speaking of… however, both the cooling systems and cvts have been redesigned…
Owned a 2016 Nissan Sentra never had an issue. I bought a 2022 Nissan Sentra the CVT has been refined.
nice!
great vehicle, I picked one up for cheap, but was thinking maybe doing an asian market X-trail 6 speed swap which should have been an option its such a waste because these are decent cars that still have a cd plyer along with usb
I just had the P1778 error code come on my Juke with the CVT(178000). It's driving fine, no slipping or anything. Maybe it came on to warn me the trans fluid is low? I need to get it booked into to Nissan for a gearbox diagnostic to see if the fluid is low.
The cvt is expensive? I thought the whole point of them is that they are cheap?
Also, my understanding is the tech for CVT is awesome, but car companies kinda mucked them up, so you don’t get a the actual benefit.
That’s the funny thing, they equip them in the economy class vehicles for fuel savings and cost (so they claim) but then the replacement units have a more expensive price tag. For sure a reason for it that makes sense for these companies which I have zero knowledge on.
They are cheap for the car makers to build, but NOT cheap to repair, because there is usually no such thing as "repair". Transmission shops do not have the skills, nor the parts, nor the desire, to do a "rebuild" of a CVT, and neither do Nissan dealerships. They just swap out the whole thing as a unit. That's why repairs are so expensive - they are "replacements".
I live in Europe and in my Nissan Qashqai which is smaller than a Roque we use manual transmissions ! No problems at all .
Had an 06 Murano and traded it in with 220k. Changed the fluid every 30k with Amsoil cvt. No issues
A new model hyundai use the same technology as cvt,but the difference is they use chain instead of using belt in their transmission, so it got to be more durable, they call it IVT,other car manufacturers should adopt this kind of technology
Most of them failed because of primary pulley bearing and rubber seal. Rubber seal with dirty fluid, yah you get the idea.
Yeah, they had a couple weak points for sure. We changed the fluid as recommended with Nissan Fluid. Still failed but hey that's cars right?
I own a 2008 altima and it gets horrible gas mileage for a four cylinder. I don't think the cvt helps fuel economy.
i just got a 2014 sentra i didnt really have a choice it was all that was available at my price point and i needed a car asap i came from a 09 chevy cobalt with 220k miles and that drove better i like the sentra everything is fine except for the trans i cant stand it and it makes me regret buying this car hopefully it'll grow on me over time the owner of the sentra before me had the trans blow at 112k miles so i got it with a remanufactured trans so i hope i can get another 100k miles out of it
Spot on!
yup!
What year is this Rogue
2015
The eCVTs in Toyota vehicles are not super fun to drive but at least requiure very little maintenance.
I really don't mind them. I have a handful of more interesting and fun vehicles to drive, but I can't complain about the gas mileage on our 2019 Sentra. The computer tells me high 40s, low 50s - hand calculated , it's pretty accurate. I do wish it would CVT under moderate throttle and not fake shifts.
Every 15-20k miles, it gets a fluid and filter change. Idemitsu N3 isn't terribly expensive at Napa, not more than regular transmission fluid.
The only person I know who had one fail personally was someone who wrecked the front of the car and had a shoddy body shop fix it. They forgot to hook up the radiator fan and the car was driven for a summer with the car constantly overheating. Too much overheating for it.
The belt itself isn't the primary cause of failure. It fails from something else failing first.
Pros and cons to everything. One area the CVT shines is cruise control. No transmission is better for riding in cruise control. They're smooth as butter.
I agree with the cruise control but it bothers me that I spent 42 K for a car that I have to change the transmission oil every 25/30 K. To me that sounds like a design flaw. I have a 2016 Murano Platinum with 109 k miles and I am looking for a new car because of hesitation, when starting, changing gears over and over on hills, No more CVT's. No more Nissans.
@stevefarris9433 you don't have to change the fluid that often. Check the owner manual. Most nissans say every 60k if used primarily in extreme use such as towing or taxi driving. Otherwise you have it checked at the dealer with the CONSULT (some sort of scan tool I assume). I won't advocate they're great or for everyone, but they're certainly not nearly as bad as the internet painted them and they just take getting used to.
I had an ‘08 maxima with a cvt that I put a stillen charger (with supporting mods) on it running on 10lbs. I street raced that thing constantly. Only thing I did with the cvt was 2 fluid drain and fills in the 150k miles of ownership. I never had a problem with that cvt. But, my friends ‘13 nismo juke needed a new cvt and car has barely 90k miles and only 2lbs over stock boost. From my experience, the pre ‘12 Nissan cvt’s were just better made
I have a 2011 Altima with 474,000 kms on it. Never had any problems!!!!
Jatco is the top worst CVTs. Renault went for as cheap as possible, charge more and any possible mpg gain is lost by having to lay on the gas to get power to move! It's just pure car maker greed, and I'm glad I have a plain 4 speed auto. Simple and will last just about forever.
Right. Yeah their claim to fame had to do with fuel economy supposedly. We’ve had this rig for awhile and haven’t noticed much of anything. Also power band is horrible.
nissan has gone back to a traditional translation on late model Pathfinders.
I think they should do that across the board
I owned an 04 Nissan Quest Van. The transmission went 188k before I sold it in 2023 for a Nissan Truck. Subaru has the CVT in their vehicles and they run fine.