Disused Stations of the Chicago Great Western - The Bellwood Mystery - Part 4

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

Комментарии • 32

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 2 года назад +8

    High admiration for the research, presentation and subject matter in general. Good that others out there contribute their knowledge to the effort, too. Great community, we railfans and historians from casual to serious!

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching and the kind words! Indeed, it is actually very helpful when the railfan community, or viewers in general, contribute their knowledge and experience, even when it doesn't necessarily align with what we've found. Some of these locations are quite complex, as we've found - and it takes some real detective work from many people to get it right.

  • @SRJOY1
    @SRJOY1 Год назад +3

    Thx for creating this, thoroughly enjoyed. Please do more ! encore !

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and commenting! More are in the pipeline. They just take awhile to research, film, and produce. Plus we have a few other series we are simultaneously exploring as well. Thanks again and stay tuned!

  • @madmattdigs9518
    @madmattdigs9518 4 месяца назад +1

    I love this channel. I grew up in Bellwood and spent a lot of time at the current location of the Bellwood station under Mannheim Road. One of my best friends lived just a stone’s throw away from there.
    Then when I got older my family moved out west near the Winfield mounds location near Geneva road and Winfield road. I was excited to learn about the site and others nearby. Although it’s sad that so many existed but were not preserved. I love learning about the local history! This is great, I will subscribe and watch all the videos whenever I can.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  4 месяца назад +1

      So glad that you are enjoying this series and our channel! Thanks for commenting and the kind words - and for watching our videos! Very interesting that different series are touching on different aspects of your life. We often run into these very different historic/prehistoric threads that somehow overlap over time. Thanks again!

  • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
    @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 года назад +5

    Another thing worth factoring in is that a lot of old maps will often keep things that are long gone, as many old maps from the 1940s will show interurban lines that stopped existing in the early 1930s.

  • @GOMF-eq4qc
    @GOMF-eq4qc 2 года назад +3

    Great detective work and thanks for clarifying.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 года назад

      Thank you for watching and the continuing support!

  • @RiisPark99
    @RiisPark99 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for all the time you’ve spent on these projects

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching and for supporting the channel!

  • @DavidUrban-y3c
    @DavidUrban-y3c 10 месяцев назад +2

    OMG you were in my old stomping grounds one of those two two story houses was were my best friend lived. And that path going under the bridge part of the interchange between the Iindiana Harbor Belt and crossed Manheim Road went by the stone quarry acrosses the Eisenhower Expressway and i think it interchanged with the Illinois Central Railroad. I remember one time we saw a circus train parked on those tracks. I never realized a station was there. Is that stretch of bike path patrolled or safe to ride on.? Just wondering. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. Have a blessed Christmas everyone.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching and sharing your rememberance of this location! Very much appreciated. The exact function of the building is still something of a mystery, beyond the fact that it was a switching tower. Whether it played the role of a station is still questionable. There are many incongruities in the facts about the Bellwood story - from the downtown area to the IHB. Perhaps more evidence will surface to clarify in the future. Regarding the IPP trail, we've ridden and walked through here on several occasions and have never had any problems or felt unsafe. Thanks again for watching!

  • @brianberthold3118
    @brianberthold3118 Год назад +3

    been watching the vids .. great stuff .. i would think it would be at Bellwood since also at Bellwood was a Chicago Aurora & Elgin alone with the Chicago Westchester & Western

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  Год назад

      Yes, we know it was there for awhile at least, but then things get murky after that. Different sources point to different locations unfortunately. Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @al007italia
    @al007italia 2 года назад +3

    Thnks for the update. Hopefully new evidence for Bellwood will show up. If it exists, whoever has it probably does realize it as it is packed away somewhere with family memorabilia.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 года назад

      Thank you for watching! Yes, it is likely that more evidence on this location is to be found out there - hoping that this video helps to stir the pot.

  • @jamalwilliams7194
    @jamalwilliams7194 2 года назад +3

    Nice video love it I use to stay on 23rd and Van Buren and Bellwood and my backyard was a piece of in old train track wonder if you can find out a little about that

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 года назад

      Thank you for watching and the kind words! In our research, we'll see if we can learn anything more regarding that train track - perhaps part of an old siding.

  • @fleadoggreen9062
    @fleadoggreen9062 Год назад +2

    50th and kedzie 60632 in Chicago had a huge roundhouse I think it had a turn table in the middle it was abandoned I think I was just 12 years old and played there a few times , any info on that , they ended up with the orange line train there, you guys have any info on the roundhouse? Or is my memory off, love ur show thanks

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting! At present, we don't have any information on that roundhouse. Perhaps a viewer may have some info on it. Also possible that we'll run onto further information, as we continue to explore area railways. Thanks again!

  • @BossSpringsteen69
    @BossSpringsteen69 Месяц назад +1

    I'm going to use a little railroadeze right now. I bring trains across this area almost on a daily basis and sometimes I think about the two railroads that used to roll through here. Looking at a photo of the Red House i see on the black base of the signal is white numbers referring to the milepost of that location which is mp. 13.2. If my rough estimates are worth anything that would put the station about half way between 25th Ave. and the IHB bridge. More specifically, if you look on Google Maps on Madison St. at Systems Transportation Equipment and, look at the edge of the line of trees just North of the bike trail is my exact location i place the station in line with. I really wonder if the station was closer to 25th like the Villa Park station is along with a row of parking. Maybe they shared a depot.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  Месяц назад

      Thanks for commenting and for adding to the conversation regarding this enigmatic station! You observation is very interesting - and it is indeed possible that the station was further east, towards 25th Street. This is one that is still a bit of mystery to us - and is easily the confounding of all of the stations that we've encountered between Chicago and Oelwein. Since we published this video, we've seen a few more bits of evidence - nothing definitive - some suggesting close to the IHB - some suggeting further away, perhaps west. It's remarkable that so little tangible evidence exists for this station and depot. We've not been able to find a single image of the depot, for example. Given it's proximity to Chicago and the growth of the suburbs along the line, it's surprising that not one image exists for this site. Perhaps it demonstrates that this station was little used as a passenger station, even from early days. And that it's primary function was as a freight station, as an interchange, given its proximity to the IHB and the CA&E. Thanks again, you very well may turn out to be correct on this!

  • @Nancy-y8q1n
    @Nancy-y8q1n 4 месяца назад +1

    It was a switching station called Red House which burned in the early 1970s, this was along the IHB line just west of 25th ave and Madison street

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  4 месяца назад

      That too is very interesting. So the red brick tower was referred to as the "red house"? Thanks for the comment and observation!

  • @Nancy-y8q1n
    @Nancy-y8q1n 4 месяца назад +1

    I can tell you where there was a station which is now a private home ,it was along the IHB line at 29th and Korrell street

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  4 месяца назад

      That's very interesting! This was a station on the IHB line? We will have to check that out in the coming weeks/months! Thanks for the comment and observation!

  • @Jacksirrom
    @Jacksirrom 2 года назад +1

    please stream the library lecture, i'm stuck at work!

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  2 года назад

      We're sorry you missed the library talk last night. Unfortunately, it was not up to us whether the talk was streamed or not. The talk was recorded and the video will be posted on the Wheaton Public Library's RUclips channel and the City of Wheaton Community Page. Once the videos are online, we will post links to them on our community page. Again, we are sorry you missed the talk last night.

    • @Jacksirrom
      @Jacksirrom 2 года назад

      @@BeHistoric cool, thanks, keep it up, love it

  • @zigman3105
    @zigman3105 Год назад +2

    That station separates the Hispanic neighborhood from the black neighborhood in Bellwood.

    • @BeHistoric
      @BeHistoric  Год назад

      That's interesting. Presumably you are referring to the massive IHB interchange structure to the west of 25th? It is massive, but curiously it helped to open up traffic, as earlier all of the roads and railways were at grade level - and train traffic would snarl things up both east-west and north-south. It's interesting and unfortunate that it ultimately created a major barrier between neighborhoods.