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First and foremost, thank you for sharing this igniting discussion between three enlightening minds. Forgive me for sharing that I would have loved for this discussion to be, at a minimum, three hours long. It is far too short. Yes. We can find numerous talks by each of these speakers. That I do not contest. What is valuable is listening to their responses which are filled with concerns, contentions, and ideas about each other's positions and ideas. 🌻
It seems, to me that main issue is that of creating mutually agreeable Definitions of basic Concepts/Ideas such as Reality, Truth, or even whether those, and similar terms, are fixed or Transient. If those few people that actually want to resolve important problems attribute different meanings to basic terms, than these problems will continue. If we assume that ALL parties really can accept a Resolution that might not be to their liking, then there might be a chance for a mutually beneficial outcome. If not, Humans can resort to their usual way of dealing with matters until they no longer exist . . . either the Humans or the matter(s).
yes but a main problem is the problem of violence which is not in need of conceptual elaboration. it needs to be resisted through force and action much more than through conceptual agreement.
In summary, truth is relative, in relation to a subject matter from time to time, place to place, person to person and political affiliation with some overlapping commonality.
"There is no true mousetrap" !!!! To me that sounds like madness. A mousetrap is a trap made to catch mice. There are good and bad traps: some will catch many mice, some just a few. There are fake mousetraps: They are unable to catch any mice. Regarding humans attitude towards a mousetrap you have their faith: Do I havebelieve I have the right to kill other living creatures, do I believe other creatures feel pain etc. This faith gives us a certain feeling when we use a mousetrap.
Ellen Gran, The subjugation of a person's critical thinking and blind acceptance, (belief/faith), to that of anyone else has always been the main cause of personal and mass suffering and, in the case of organized religion and political ideology, has Historically been the cause of the greatest Crimes against Humanity . . . but just a tiny portion of Humanity's Crimes against all other Life on this World. It's unfortunate that some of those who possess the power to enhance and enrich Life has always taught people what to think instead of How to think. Fortunately, there will always be some that have always thought for themselves and who have Empathy for all things.
All part of the probability distribution properties of existence/nonexistence that is the spectrum zero-infinity in the 1-0Duration interval. Another aspect of the infinite identification of potential possibilities, and testability. In other words, no-thing is true except by self-definition.., the cause-effect of Superspin Modulation convolution.. It's arbitrary. The way in which memnonics are often chosen to be silly sounding and amusing, because the contrast with the significant truth is made more noticeable. Sea shanties sung by Sailors were a type of timing mechanism and encouragement, same goes for the chants of Blacksmithing tempering metals, Navigators and Agriculturalists studing the features of weather who were nominally Religionists using the sky as a Calendar and catalogue of stories. The truth is that everything is time duration timing in a ridiculously complicated and messy holographic image projection, drawing on any type of mental invention that assists survival. It's "whatever works" in a particular setting.., for the dominant reason. Under typical circumstances, philosophy is more like entertainment/memnonics of reconciliation to past failures than useful information. What proportion of what is spoken with emphasis, ..is not to reveal truth, it's only a means of getting noticed for the sake of social standing.., to be remembered.
haha i love the title. the woman at 20 mins is spouting that carbon is changing our climate. Indeed this is what its like in a post-truth world. Sad but true
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"Reality is only what is measurable"
Max Planck (1858 1957)
Just because you can't measure it, it doesn't means it doesn't exist, just because you can measure it, it doesn't means you understand it.
First and foremost, thank you for sharing this igniting discussion between three enlightening minds. Forgive me for sharing that I would have loved for this discussion to be, at a minimum, three hours long. It is far too short. Yes. We can find numerous talks by each of these speakers. That I do not contest. What is valuable is listening to their responses which are filled with concerns, contentions, and ideas about each other's positions and ideas. 🌻
It seems, to me that main issue is that of creating mutually agreeable Definitions of basic Concepts/Ideas such as Reality, Truth, or even whether those, and similar terms, are fixed or Transient. If those few people that actually want to resolve important problems attribute different meanings to basic terms, than these problems will continue.
If we assume that ALL parties really can accept a Resolution that might not be to their liking, then there might be a chance for a mutually beneficial outcome. If not, Humans can resort to their usual way of dealing with matters until they no longer exist . . . either the Humans or the matter(s).
yes but a main problem is the problem of violence which is not in need of conceptual elaboration. it needs to be resisted through force and action much more than through conceptual agreement.
In summary, truth is relative, in relation to a subject matter from time to time, place to place, person to person and political affiliation with some overlapping commonality.
err but what you just said is an absolute truth so you have just refuted your main claim as well as affirming it
Although short in length, I believe they use to many words to express themselves.
I've been watching Rebel Wisdom for almost a year now. I'm starting to feel that in the in end were just "homo-sapiens" and that's all we are.
Well done Rebecca Goldstein, that must have been weird!
People hate the truth..I am hated because of it.
The Truth is first very disturbing , and will be rejected by Green Apples but excepted by those having character and ready to receive it !
"There is no true mousetrap" !!!! To me that sounds like madness.
A mousetrap is a trap made to catch mice. There are good and bad traps: some will catch many mice, some just
a few. There are fake mousetraps: They are unable to catch any mice.
Regarding humans attitude towards a mousetrap you have their faith: Do I havebelieve I have the right to kill other living creatures, do I believe other creatures feel pain etc. This faith gives us a certain feeling when we use a mousetrap.
Ellen Gran,
The subjugation of a person's critical thinking and blind acceptance, (belief/faith), to that of anyone else has always been the main cause of personal and mass suffering and, in the case of organized religion and political ideology, has Historically been the cause of the greatest Crimes against Humanity . . . but just a tiny portion of Humanity's Crimes against all other Life on this World.
It's unfortunate that some of those who possess the power to enhance and enrich Life has always taught people what to think instead of How to think.
Fortunately, there will always be some that have always thought for themselves and who have Empathy for all things.
Jesus said what truth is but problem is we cannot accept it as the devil in us has grown too powerful.
Kevin Wellwrought,
Which Jesus, the Imaginary one or the Imaginary one?
Like there ever was a "Truth World"...
Remember the Iraq War and that WMD thingy...? Or the Gulf of Tonkin con...? Etc, etc...?
Laughably pompous.
All part of the probability distribution properties of existence/nonexistence that is the spectrum zero-infinity in the 1-0Duration interval. Another aspect of the infinite identification of potential possibilities, and testability.
In other words, no-thing is true except by self-definition.., the cause-effect of Superspin Modulation convolution..
It's arbitrary.
The way in which memnonics are often chosen to be silly sounding and amusing, because the contrast with the significant truth is made more noticeable.
Sea shanties sung by Sailors were a type of timing mechanism and encouragement, same goes for the chants of Blacksmithing tempering metals, Navigators and Agriculturalists studing the features of weather who were nominally Religionists using the sky as a Calendar and catalogue of stories. The truth is that everything is time duration timing in a ridiculously complicated and messy holographic image projection, drawing on any type of mental invention that assists survival.
It's "whatever works" in a particular setting.., for the dominant reason.
Under typical circumstances, philosophy is more like entertainment/memnonics of reconciliation to past failures than useful information.
What proportion of what is spoken with emphasis, ..is not to reveal truth, it's only a means of getting noticed for the sake of social standing.., to be remembered.
Telling the truth , telling the FACTS, how can anyone debate what telling the truth is, unless your a liar and sociopath.-LOL
haha i love the title.
the woman at 20 mins is spouting that carbon is changing our climate. Indeed this is what its like in a post-truth world. Sad but true