if only there was a way to stop players from playing old school maplestory damn if only we as a company had some kind of easy fix and solution for this problem
In the end, they never did, the players themselves had to create what they wanted in the form of said private servers, and more recently, MapleStory Worlds. Heck, the latter would even be a net loss to them if a creator makes an awesome fork, gets spending players from the official MS servers into it, and doesn't charge a single dime for anything. Corporations are weird, but Nexon in particular takes the crown in that aspect.
Classic Nexon. They cannot be bothered to run their own classic Maplestory servers, instead releasing "Maple Worlds" then punishing the private servers who have been doing it properly for years.
I love artale but it aint it. I tried for years to use the Maple forums to ask for a conversation around OSMS. A few days ago I messaged Nexon via a ticket and the ticket responder told me to again try posting about the want for OSMS on the forums. They know what theyre doing and theyre gaslighting their players.
I really doubt they have any legal power to sue players of a private server. The server owners sure, but i cant imagine trying to sue thousands of players would really work out or hold legitimacy in court
nx also lies about the cube and star force rating. and they only got away because they now changde the way we buy cubes using mesos and it no longer considered gambling because we no longer use real money for cubing lol. the rates probably still the same. we have actual statistcs from discord wayy back in 2017
Damm i got also hit with a copyright strike on my private server videos i have now removed them all so my channel is safe. But my whole Ironman Zakum solo series is gone sadly. May I ask were did you find/hear about this new info?
Thats because nexon for the longest time couldn't protect their old Maplestory IP but now that maple worlds has launched they have based grounds to sue any private servers.
@@Pirate_ not really, they are not providing a old school server for us to play on. It is a bit unfair but they own the rights to their intellectual property so they can do take downs. I am sure if nexon made a old school server players who are playing on a p server will move over. Artale is close but not really.
@@Pirate_ Videos that mention private servers on their titles (at least?) got removed en-masse even years ago, even before MSW Korea got released. Ask any content creator that did Mapleroyals content.
Pretty sure that will help but won't root out the problem, the first big problem is what does osms actually mean? Some say its v63, v83, v93 or even v96. There's no consensus on this topic, people play the version they remember the best. Then there's exp rate problems if it were to be a true 1-1 experience, f2p vs p2p and more problems. Trying to unite majority of the osms players is pretty impossible. Unless the pservers are completely outlawed and there's no alternatives that is.
Discord is a US based company in California. We have strict data privacy laws here so Discord will be able to use that as a strong defense. I like this case though, its going to be an educational one for everyone.
imma be real at this point just wait a moment for MSWorlds to catch on, maybie there'll be an entire PServer-like ecosystem with artale competing with MapLand competing with many others, heck, why not even try to sponsor a create your own maple server program in MSWorlds and see if you can pull people there?
glad that i quited Msea months ago, eventually you will find smth more meaningful to fill in your 'daily FTMO time' in maple. 15b mesos and bomb 8 acs knuckle and only reached 20* once is just destroying my faith in the game. I earn 1.5b with 4 characters weekly bossing, that is 10 weeks effort into dumpster
nexon chill, you will never make money off pirates/private servers anyways. the gray area is, i havent played private servers in a while, but if a private server is charging a premium using nexon assets...thats where its no longer gray. as long as it's free, once someone makes money off your product that's above my paygrade to comment on
What do you mean they will never make money off private servers anyways? Do you think it's coincidental this is happening just as an official OSMS was released? By shutting down private servers they direct all of that traffic to Artale or Mapleland or whatever other server comes out next officially on MS worlds and captures the players and the potential revenue they would make from them. I don't understand how this is controversial at all. People are stealing and pirating Nexon's IP and they have every legal right to sue and come after people who are distributing it illegally. Every business on planet Earth has this right.
I agree its within their right to go after private server owners and the people running them. I also dislike nexon and some of their business and game design decisions but thats different vs them going after people who are running private servers. I would much prefer them to bring a maplestory classic server instead of having 2 heroic worlds, they can have 1, and migrate people from hyperion to Kronos or keep those 2 and add a new type called classic or something that is pre big bang maple with a lot more quality of life changes. I wouldn't want an exact replica of OSMS, but the design philosophy of it, something laid back and chill, you have one class, party quests, partying, downtime between things like taking ferries to orbit, etc. To really encourage people to talk more in game and not in something like discord.
I know a lot of people who haven't grown with maple just feeling intimidated and demoralized with how much different classes you have to play to progress the one class you actually want to play, legion was a misguided idea.
Discord has nothing to do with private servers, if someone has a private server and uses discord and a main gate for people to gain access to it, sorry you cant do nothing, all they can do is see what is the discord server and ask nicely to discord to take it down otherwise trying to lawsuit them for it migh ricochet into a lawsuit for damages and attempt of making a negative impact on discord image.
Maplestory Worlds is the platform made by NEXON for the OSMS community to THRIVE on. Imagine opening up a restaurant and only having 1 item on the menu for the rest of it's lifespan. That is literally the worst business decision ever, sure maybe that 1 item will carry you for X amount of years but eventually people will get tired of it and stop visiting the restaurant for whatever reason. It's the same thing for Maplestory Worlds and why Nexon didn't just release a classic era server. Classic would eventually die and Nexon wanted to create a product that had more longevity. Some of you guys if given the chance to run a business would run that shit into the ground! So many braindead people saying "oh just give us a proper old school server" or "Worlds is not it". OSMS is officially here and Nexon is giving the power to the player to make OSMS but people STILL crying xD??
No idea what you are talking about. Worlds isnt it. Worlds will probably die as well, and if the only product people care from worlds is OSMS, than the whole venture was pointless.Worlds CAN NOT truly replicate oldschool maplestory experience. If OSMS was released and developed like OSRS was, than it would be a success. However. Everything nexon touches turns into p2w garbage. So i am not holding my breath.
apparently it is so hard for people to understand discord is simply a MESSAGING app, how the hell u expect discord to give u information about messages or servers regarding a specific game just because a company wants it, also karma for making maplesea p2w compared to other versions of the game just to cheat money out of sea players, not to mention rigging cube rates
in case you weren't aware: every message or media you send through Discord is logged and stored - everything - its why you can request to delete your data (which may or may not fully delete, this is another legal concern that's offtopic) if you made an account even as far back as 2016, discord can pull all your chat logs from day one Nexon is requesting these logs/archives as well as data related to the owners/potentially players because they have that too, many people have made purchases via discord so their full information is easy to grab. discord is not giving in because generally there needs to be a legal request to give out PII like that to other companies since if word got out that discord was giving this information without being legally told to, it would hurt discords business.
If private servers are making $ off Nexon's intellectual property (i.e. Cash shop purchases with real money), then I get it. However, if private servers are exclusively operating off "donations"... then idk. I get that it's Nexon's game, so it is in their right...
"Donations" are still profiting from stolen intellectual property. Pretty obviously in the wrong in a legal case. You don't have to like it but that's how it is.
@@billybob-rc5pc I don't give a shit one way or the other. I play private servers and haven't touched retail in several years. I'm just saying that nexon is clearly in the legal right here.
@@SleepIsland the major servers do not have pay to win aspects. You can donate for special cosmetics, but the majority of cosmetics and in-game items (e.g. pets, shops, smegas, etc) are free. But some servers do have p2w aspects.
if only there was a way to stop players from playing old school maplestory damn if only we as a company had some kind of easy fix and solution for this problem
In the end, they never did, the players themselves had to create what they wanted in the form of said private servers, and more recently, MapleStory Worlds. Heck, the latter would even be a net loss to them if a creator makes an awesome fork, gets spending players from the official MS servers into it, and doesn't charge a single dime for anything.
Corporations are weird, but Nexon in particular takes the crown in that aspect.
That's because Nexon already lost the code to old maplestory decades ago.
Instead of just giving the players a proper old school server
Anything but that you know nexon
Classic Nexon. They cannot be bothered to run their own classic Maplestory servers, instead releasing "Maple Worlds" then punishing the private servers who have been doing it properly for years.
I love artale but it aint it. I tried for years to use the Maple forums to ask for a conversation around OSMS. A few days ago I messaged Nexon via a ticket and the ticket responder told me to again try posting about the want for OSMS on the forums. They know what theyre doing and theyre gaslighting their players.
@@bknighty28100% it’s brutal . And the worst part about it , if nexon does release an osms they’re going to milk the **** out of it
That's so extremely evil. Nexon does not deserve our time or money
I really doubt they have any legal power to sue players of a private server. The server owners sure, but i cant imagine trying to sue thousands of players would really work out or hold legitimacy in court
nx also lies about the cube and star force rating. and they only got away because they now changde the way we buy cubes using mesos and it no longer considered gambling because we no longer use real money for cubing lol. the rates probably still the same. we have actual statistcs from discord wayy back in 2017
Damm i got also hit with a copyright strike on my private server videos i have now removed them all so my channel is safe. But my whole Ironman Zakum solo series is gone sadly. May I ask were did you find/hear about this new info?
Thats because nexon for the longest time couldn't protect their old Maplestory IP but now that maple worlds has launched they have based grounds to sue any private servers.
@@Pirate_ not really, they are not providing a old school server for us to play on. It is a bit unfair but they own the rights to their intellectual property so they can do take downs.
I am sure if nexon made a old school server players who are playing on a p server will move over.
Artale is close but not really.
@@Pirate_ Videos that mention private servers on their titles (at least?) got removed en-masse even years ago, even before MSW Korea got released. Ask any content creator that did Mapleroyals content.
I don't even play maplestory anymore, but fuck Nexon for doing this to others.
I doubt anything will come of this but a funny try by Nexon.
Nexon we know you're reading this. I'll never play another official maplestory server ever again. It's over.
See you next update lil bro
im pretty sure if they were to create an actual osms game. their problem with the number of people playing private servers will go down drastically.
Pretty sure that will help but won't root out the problem, the first big problem is what does osms actually mean? Some say its v63, v83, v93 or even v96. There's no consensus on this topic, people play the version they remember the best. Then there's exp rate problems if it were to be a true 1-1 experience, f2p vs p2p and more problems. Trying to unite majority of the osms players is pretty impossible. Unless the pservers are completely outlawed and there's no alternatives that is.
Discord is a US based company in California. We have strict data privacy laws here so Discord will be able to use that as a strong defense. I like this case though, its going to be an educational one for everyone.
Strong defense? Dude, discord will cooperate willingly.
The Audacity they have after all the sh*t they've pulled
me still playing my v83 private server
Which server is that?
nexon is about to release a classic server in the near future, this is normal procedure
It sounds like they're about to release an old school maplestory in the style of runescape.
imma be real at this point just wait a moment for MSWorlds to catch on, maybie there'll be an entire PServer-like ecosystem with artale competing with MapLand competing with many others, heck, why not even try to sponsor a create your own maple server program in MSWorlds and see if you can pull people there?
+1 Artale, -1 private servers, -10000000 Nexon.
Welcome to Chairman chang boys😂
ruclips.net/video/NAtvkrU5tPk/видео.htmlsi=S2P6VQSu6AZ8L9jp
Artale just feels horrible to play. I can't explain it but something feels off with it
So this is what happens when you use 0% of your brain power
glad that i quited Msea months ago, eventually you will find smth more meaningful to fill in your 'daily FTMO time' in maple. 15b mesos and bomb 8 acs knuckle and only reached 20* once is just destroying my faith in the game. I earn 1.5b with 4 characters weekly bossing, that is 10 weeks effort into dumpster
Also that video is from probably no text to speech
Any good Big bang private servers? That era was so good
nexon chill, you will never make money off pirates/private servers anyways.
the gray area is, i havent played private servers in a while, but if a private server is charging a premium using nexon assets...thats where its no longer gray.
as long as it's free, once someone makes money off your product that's above my paygrade to comment on
What do you mean they will never make money off private servers anyways? Do you think it's coincidental this is happening just as an official OSMS was released? By shutting down private servers they direct all of that traffic to Artale or Mapleland or whatever other server comes out next officially on MS worlds and captures the players and the potential revenue they would make from them.
I don't understand how this is controversial at all. People are stealing and pirating Nexon's IP and they have every legal right to sue and come after people who are distributing it illegally. Every business on planet Earth has this right.
I agree its within their right to go after private server owners and the people running them.
I also dislike nexon and some of their business and game design decisions but thats different vs them going after people who are running private servers.
I would much prefer them to bring a maplestory classic server instead of having 2 heroic worlds, they can have 1, and migrate people from hyperion to Kronos or keep those 2 and add a new type called classic or something that is pre big bang maple with a lot more quality of life changes. I wouldn't want an exact replica of OSMS, but the design philosophy of it, something laid back and chill, you have one class, party quests, partying, downtime between things like taking ferries to orbit, etc. To really encourage people to talk more in game and not in something like discord.
I know a lot of people who haven't grown with maple just feeling intimidated and demoralized with how much different classes you have to play to progress the one class you actually want to play, legion was a misguided idea.
100% with u here bro
Ppl are fuck8ng delusional if they say otherwise
Private server player nerds probably @@broccolol12
Wouldn't surprise me imo. Due to MapleStory Worlds, etc.
it doesn't matter
yall will still gonna play maplestory
no matter atrocity they done
Private servers are where its at. With private servers alive, Nexon loses someone they can scam.
They're gonna sue private servers and then drop old school maplestory 💀
Only a court order can allow discord to do pass personal information of its users, and only to the othorities. Nexon is pathetic.
Classic Nexon type beat. If only people knew how bad it really was lol
Jesus Thats crazy
nexon isnt a game company
Is this gameplay maple lands?
artale
artale, suck version
Oh hey i posted the vid in ur discord 😁
Sound like similar company with big letter G
Imagine STILL giving Nexon your money and playing their shitty games, at this point you deserve it.
To prevent hack program this is well done
Discord has nothing to do with private servers, if someone has a private server and uses discord and a main gate for people to gain access to it, sorry you cant do nothing, all they can do is see what is the discord server and ask nicely to discord to take it down otherwise trying to lawsuit them for it migh ricochet into a lawsuit for damages and attempt of making a negative impact on discord image.
How about they finally release an official osms first hmmmmmmm
PLEASE stop supporting Nexon. They don’t give a shit about you or their game.
Maplestory Worlds is the platform made by NEXON for the OSMS community to THRIVE on. Imagine opening up a restaurant and only having 1 item on the menu for the rest of it's lifespan. That is literally the worst business decision ever, sure maybe that 1 item will carry you for X amount of years but eventually people will get tired of it and stop visiting the restaurant for whatever reason. It's the same thing for Maplestory Worlds and why Nexon didn't just release a classic era server. Classic would eventually die and Nexon wanted to create a product that had more longevity. Some of you guys if given the chance to run a business would run that shit into the ground!
So many braindead people saying "oh just give us a proper old school server" or "Worlds is not it". OSMS is officially here and Nexon is giving the power to the player to make OSMS but people STILL crying xD??
No idea what you are talking about. Worlds isnt it. Worlds will probably die as well, and if the only product people care from worlds is OSMS, than the whole venture was pointless.Worlds CAN NOT truly replicate oldschool maplestory experience. If OSMS was released and developed like OSRS was, than it would be a success. However. Everything nexon touches turns into p2w garbage. So i am not holding my breath.
Online gambling should be illegal
apparently it is so hard for people to understand discord is simply a MESSAGING app, how the hell u expect discord to give u information about messages or servers regarding a specific game just because a company wants it, also
karma for making maplesea p2w compared to other versions of the game just to cheat money out of sea players, not to mention rigging cube rates
in case you weren't aware: every message or media you send through Discord is logged and stored - everything - its why you can request to delete your data (which may or may not fully delete, this is another legal concern that's offtopic)
if you made an account even as far back as 2016, discord can pull all your chat logs from day one
Nexon is requesting these logs/archives as well as data related to the owners/potentially players because they have that too, many people have made purchases via discord so their full information is easy to grab. discord is not giving in because generally there needs to be a legal request to give out PII like that to other companies since if word got out that discord was giving this information without being legally told to, it would hurt discords business.
@@jarororo yeah makes sense, its kinda what i meant. like ofc discord will have your logs but they cant just give it out due to many reasons
Impressive how ppl still play this game managed by a 💩 greedy company of evil.
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If private servers are making $ off Nexon's intellectual property (i.e. Cash shop purchases with real money), then I get it. However, if private servers are exclusively operating off "donations"... then idk. I get that it's Nexon's game, so it is in their right...
"Donations" are still profiting from stolen intellectual property. Pretty obviously in the wrong in a legal case. You don't have to like it but that's how it is.
@@HNcomics catch me if you can
@@billybob-rc5pc I don't give a shit one way or the other. I play private servers and haven't touched retail in several years. I'm just saying that nexon is clearly in the legal right here.
@@SleepIsland the major servers do not have pay to win aspects. You can donate for special cosmetics, but the majority of cosmetics and in-game items (e.g. pets, shops, smegas, etc) are free. But some servers do have p2w aspects.
@@billybob-rc5pc catch me if you can
yar a bit late to the party..
Copeeee
Good riddance we want eluna to go down anyways
Nexon u fing peace of s company