We need more compact cards that show the true potential of a 75W power limit. Like an RTX A2000 with sane prices. Bonus points if they make an x2 Bios Slim LP model.
Wouldn't be hard. Chips are the same, just card design is different. Was testing an E9390 and it uses more power than my stock RX 6800 when vsynced. Seems though 75w is more thought of as business/server cards than anything else.
I personally run a Radeon Pro W5500 on my gaming rig because I could only fit a single slot GPU in my M-ATX build. Very happy with the W series of Radeon Pro cards. You can get them on a steal. Running it on PCIE 4.0 with a Zen 3 5800X, DDR4 Ram @ 3600mhz., and get around 80 FPS in Warzone at 1440P and graphics set to normal ranges.
Yeah, I really like the Pro series cards at the lower end since they are normally tuned differently than the stock versions so have smaller form factors, lower power, etc. W6400 is the same though.
@@LohTec I have also heard the power efficiency is better, and the components (transistors, capacitors) are generally of a higher brand/quality. Not sure how true that second part is though.
This is also a PCIe x4 card, so if you are going to use it on an older Optiplex, by example, you can use the smaller pcie slot without any issues. This also applies for that M.2 adapter for laptops. Theoretically no performance loss. Really good card, tbh :)
@@PhOeNiXH My Optiplex is newer (3060) and only has the x16 and a little x1 :) Anyway when if I could install it in a x4 PCIe the loss still remains because I would be using a x4 card in a x4 PCIe 3.0 bay.
So, what's the comparison in performance of the the RX and the W 6400s? Do they perform differently, like one might think? And aside from that, say you wanted to game and also do some editing. Would having both be beneficial? RX for gaming, W for all the editing and such? Just sort of curious about this.
The W6400 and RX 6400 are identical except in professional software. Cards are the same, performance the same. I had both for a minute, you don't need two. Get the W only if you are doing professional work that is accelerated by workstation software.
rx 6400 doesnt have encoder and thats problem if ure willing to stream or edit video, rendering and such those things. while w6400 you can use for both profesional and entertainment
@@nuzulamru that was a dick move on AMD's part, although some people say there is a way you can enable it in the settings, but i never see any tech reviewers and RUclipsrs mentioned anything about that. the 6500 xt has that same problem, Nvidia let's people stream or record, so why not AMD.
@@Jeymez For whatever reason. AMD Didn't think their low end needed that tech. Same with the bandwidth gimping on the 64 bit bus and PCIE 4.0 x4. It could have been a 96 bit at least and maybe an x8. Get it some more memory too. 4GB? Base line at 6 on this and the 6500XT. Give Nvidiot a tiny bit more to sweat over, with their recent f_ups.
Does the standard RX6400 also only have four lanes of PCIe? That .... seems really bad and limiting. Especially for my intended use case of putting one on an older computer.
Worth mentioning the gt 1030 was a gen3 x 4 card. You still see that card used from time to time. The 6400 is probably marginally better, might be more worthwhile when it drops in price. The 1650 is 3 x 16, but from what I've seen you're shelling out over $200 for that.
@@SeeJayPlayGames Check tech power ups review of the rx 6400. It beats both the 550/560 in raw performance, even when bandwith limited. If you know you don't need the higher performance or do need hardware encoding, then you can find a 550/560 for cheaper sure.
@@AndoXD2448 well, I guess I could use intel QuickSync for encoding, though for game capture that might be limited by the PCIe bus at 2.0x4 in my rig... or better yet, get an external box if recording is really important. I guess you're right, the 6400 blows away the 550/560. And costs about the same for small form factor cards. Decision made. nVidia just doesn't have anything that can compete in my niche market segment, and the RX 5000 series never got a SFF card, so I guess the RX 6400 is really the only choice.
Option currently isn't there, though that may be due to the workstation software or could be the card isn't supported (yet). I'll try different drivers to see if that changes anything.
Hey man, thx for the video, actually i have a rx 6400 speedter xfx, and i don't know if it is okay, i mean when i play warzone it is in 85 to 90 deegres and with a 99 percent of usage, and with fall guys the same thing and the fan sounds terrible loud like 4500 to 5200 rpm, it's okay my graphic?, those temperatures are fine?, thank you man
Your game capture needs some work. Quality and contrast seem lacking. CRF or CQP 18-24 should be good, not sure what's going on with your colors. Maybe check for limited 16-235 range somewhere.
Agreed. The card doesn't support encoding so I'm using a cheap external recorder that compresses poorly. It's on my upgrade list but only recently even had a reason to use it.
@@LohTec Use CPU...? You should be able to change recording settings if you have software for the device though. The color range issue could be a number of things, but graphic driver settings comes to mind first if it's not just in the recording but also in-game.
The default color rendering on AMD is different from Nvidia. But since this rig is only a quad the capture would affect performance. My main rig this wouldn't be an issue.
RX 6400 seems like a very very bad card but if you just need a card to just RUN a pc, i think it's not bad, the price currently is 159$ on amazon, if it drops to 100 or under then it might be an actual considerable budget choice!
It's also beats every other card on the market in the small form factor single slot category. That's a niche market but nothing else currently comes close. If this puppy came down to $125 I'd be a good value.
i wana compare it to a windforcce x3 gtx 670 tdp unlocked by 170% so say 680 on a pci gen 3 even if its about the same if only a little faster the power gains are impressive"33.5 gigapixel-117.3Gtexel -240.0GB/s 2 GB 1344 Unified shaders- 32/112 Rop/TMU"
We need more compact cards that show the true potential of a 75W power limit. Like an RTX A2000 with sane prices. Bonus points if they make an x2 Bios Slim LP model.
Wouldn't be hard. Chips are the same, just card design is different. Was testing an E9390 and it uses more power than my stock RX 6800 when vsynced. Seems though 75w is more thought of as business/server cards than anything else.
I personally run a Radeon Pro W5500 on my gaming rig because I could only fit a single slot GPU in my M-ATX build. Very happy with the W series of Radeon Pro cards. You can get them on a steal. Running it on PCIE 4.0 with a Zen 3 5800X, DDR4 Ram @ 3600mhz., and get around 80 FPS in Warzone at 1440P and graphics set to normal ranges.
Yeah, I really like the Pro series cards at the lower end since they are normally tuned differently than the stock versions so have smaller form factors, lower power, etc. W6400 is the same though.
@@LohTec I have also heard the power efficiency is better, and the components (transistors, capacitors) are generally of a higher brand/quality. Not sure how true that second part is though.
That would probably also depend on the other brand, but maybe
Subbed / Great Video 💪🏻
Nice video. A question: Did you use a MB with PCIe 4.0 or 3.0,?
That's very important with this card.
3.0, though on this card it's less important than the 6500 XT since the performance is lower. Still, a few games could probably be boosted on 4.0.
@@LohTec thanks for this, i want to buy the RX 6400 but i have pcie 3.0 so thats a nice to know uwu
This is also a PCIe x4 card, so if you are going to use it on an older Optiplex, by example, you can use the smaller pcie slot without any issues.
This also applies for that M.2 adapter for laptops. Theoretically no performance loss.
Really good card, tbh :)
@@PhOeNiXH My Optiplex is newer (3060) and only has the x16 and a little x1 :)
Anyway when if I could install it in a x4 PCIe the loss still remains because I would be using a x4 card in a x4 PCIe 3.0 bay.
Interesting, thank you 👍
Would the W6400 performed better than RX6400 in terms of rendering 4k video alone? I mean the 8gb non XT version of the RX
So, what's the comparison in performance of the the RX and the W 6400s? Do they perform differently, like one might think?
And aside from that, say you wanted to game and also do some editing. Would having both be beneficial? RX for gaming, W for all the editing and such? Just sort of curious about this.
The W6400 and RX 6400 are identical except in professional software. Cards are the same, performance the same. I had both for a minute, you don't need two. Get the W only if you are doing professional work that is accelerated by workstation software.
rx 6400 doesnt have encoder and thats problem if ure willing to stream or edit video, rendering and such those things. while w6400 you can use for both profesional and entertainment
@@nuzulamru that was a dick move on AMD's part, although some people say there is a way you can enable it in the settings, but i never see any tech reviewers and RUclipsrs mentioned anything about that. the 6500 xt has that same problem, Nvidia let's people stream or record, so why not AMD.
@@Jeymez For whatever reason. AMD Didn't think their low end needed that tech. Same with the bandwidth gimping on the 64 bit bus and PCIE 4.0 x4. It could have been a 96 bit at least and maybe an x8. Get it some more memory too. 4GB? Base line at 6 on this and the 6500XT. Give Nvidiot a tiny bit more to sweat over, with their recent f_ups.
what about productivity
Good commentary
Thanks.
Does the standard RX6400 also only have four lanes of PCIe? That .... seems really bad and limiting. Especially for my intended use case of putting one on an older computer.
Yep, all only have 4 lanes.
Worth mentioning the gt 1030 was a gen3 x 4 card. You still see that card used from time to time. The 6400 is probably marginally better, might be more worthwhile when it drops in price. The 1650 is 3 x 16, but from what I've seen you're shelling out over $200 for that.
@@AndoXD2448 RX 550/560 is 3 x 8 I believe. And they have hardware encoding. Would they be a better choice for an older PC?
@@SeeJayPlayGames Check tech power ups review of the rx 6400. It beats both the 550/560 in raw performance, even when bandwith limited.
If you know you don't need the higher performance or do need hardware encoding, then you can find a 550/560 for cheaper sure.
@@AndoXD2448 well, I guess I could use intel QuickSync for encoding, though for game capture that might be limited by the PCIe bus at 2.0x4 in my rig... or better yet, get an external box if recording is really important.
I guess you're right, the 6400 blows away the 550/560. And costs about the same for small form factor cards. Decision made. nVidia just doesn't have anything that can compete in my niche market segment, and the RX 5000 series never got a SFF card, so I guess the RX 6400 is really the only choice.
Does the W6400 stop the fan when idle and running very cool? The WX 4100 in one of my secondary machines doesn't stop the fan, and it's annoying.
Not unless I missed something, though at idle it's very quiet. Much quieter than the WX 4100
Update: Bought an XFX RX 6400 and it does have idle fan-stop. W6400 doesn't
Could you please do Blender tests
It does blend. 😎 I can see what test I find. I Don't use blender
Does this card has rsr already? I wanna have it and put everything to 900p upscaled to 1080p
Option currently isn't there, though that may be due to the workstation software or could be the card isn't supported (yet). I'll try different drivers to see if that changes anything.
Rx 6400 has it
Can confirm the standard RX 6400 has it, though testing Overwatch at 900p with RSR was lower performance than 1080p. 720p was faster.
This gpu performs better than the RX 6600? Is AMD selling the dumpster dies?
RX 6600 is much faster.
Hey man, thx for the video, actually i have a rx 6400 speedter xfx, and i don't know if it is okay, i mean when i play warzone it is in 85 to 90 deegres and with a 99 percent of usage, and with fall guys the same thing and the fan sounds terrible loud like 4500 to 5200 rpm, it's okay my graphic?, those temperatures are fine?, thank you man
Fine like safe, yes. Your card may not be getting enough airflow. Make sure your case has proper ventilation and/or add a fan.
Your game capture needs some work. Quality and contrast seem lacking. CRF or CQP 18-24 should be good, not sure what's going on with your colors. Maybe check for limited 16-235 range somewhere.
Agreed. The card doesn't support encoding so I'm using a cheap external recorder that compresses poorly. It's on my upgrade list but only recently even had a reason to use it.
@@LohTec Use CPU...? You should be able to change recording settings if you have software for the device though.
The color range issue could be a number of things, but graphic driver settings comes to mind first if it's not just in the recording but also in-game.
The default color rendering on AMD is different from Nvidia. But since this rig is only a quad the capture would affect performance. My main rig this wouldn't be an issue.
It's 53W
True. I say that in the video offhand. What I meant by 75w is that's the max you can from the PCIe bus. It's the fastest AMD card under 75w.
Nice
RX 6400 seems like a very very bad card but if you just need a card to just RUN a pc, i think it's not bad, the price currently is 159$ on amazon, if it drops to 100 or under then it might be an actual considerable budget choice!
Depends what your goals are. If you need something that only runs on PCIe power the only better option is the A2000 and that's much more expensive.
It's also beats every other card on the market in the small form factor single slot category. That's a niche market but nothing else currently comes close. If this puppy came down to $125 I'd be a good value.
i wana compare it to a windforcce x3 gtx 670 tdp unlocked by 170% so say 680 on a pci gen 3 even if its about the same if only a little faster the power gains are impressive"33.5 gigapixel-117.3Gtexel -240.0GB/s 2 GB 1344 Unified shaders- 32/112 Rop/TMU"
you should benchmark medieval engineers