Ford Crown Vic vs. Chevy Caprice - PI vs. PPV
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I review and compare my 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor to the 2011 Chevy Caprice PPV to see which is the better car. I review their specs and provide a behind-the-wheel driving experience of both cars. Both clearly have their pros and cons and both are amazing cars but one has to be better than the other. Join me to find out which it is!
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Crown vic all day every day. Love my vic and will
Preach!
Caprice is a much better car performance wise. But I am old school and love the Crown Vic. Hands down bang for the buck Crown Vic if your looking at price and longevity.
Yeah, the Caprice runs 13's in the quarter mile... vastly faster...
@@BuzzLOLOL, if only their engines stood up like the Vic's. They might outrun the Vic, but won't out live.
@@Al-ed2jc - The plastic intake manifold on the Crown Vic will crack by 75K miles leaving an engine lucky to make 5 HP...
@@BuzzLOLOL dod can take a dump on the caprice and its 1k+ to delete it lol, i love the caprices but an intake manifold is way cheaper than essentially a top end rebuild, provided dod is taken care of they’re both reliable engines 🤔
@@ianscheurer - The Crown Vic can never catch the Caprice...
Vic, easy cheap and fast enough...! , oh and kinda bullet proof .!
Crown Vic all day every day, I just got myself a 2001 P71 with 126k miles on it and it runs great and everything, only have had to do a few minor cosmetic things like change out the headlight bulbs and get a new wiper arm to replace the driver side arm that was messed up.... oh and changed the oil, spark plugs and air filter but yeah so far aside from those fuew things has been a dream
And another thing about those CVPI's is that they will keep giving and keep running long after other cars take a crap.
I love my 2011 Crown Vic with 83,000 miles on it. The Caprice is very tempting but the extra cost to buy & maintain it puts the Crown Vic in First Place by a mile!!
I'm on my 2nd Crown Vic first was a 2000 bought it with 53,000 miles in 2012 kept it 5 years put another 50,000 miles on it with nothing more than a brake job, tires, plugs and oil changes. My 2nd is a 2002 Lx fully loaded bought it with 63,000 miles on it last year (mint condition) and have done nothing but get tires and oil changes so far. Despite the plastic intake manifold that will eventually start leaking and need to be replaced I have never owned a more reliable car this includes the 4 Toyota's I have previously owned.
There is plenty of room under the hood for tinkering and repairs, comfort and ride in the civilian models is as smooth as it gets. I upgraded to a modern stereo system with blue tooth etc and it sounds great with the original speaker system that came with the car. I have considered the Police interceptor for the slightly higher horsepower but decided against it for the sake of comfort and options. I added a K&N intake system and upgraded the exhaust which seemed to boost my power a little and my gas mileage if I stay off it on long cruises. By far the best overall car I have owned in 36 years of driving. Sure, it looks like an old mans car but old men usually don't tear down the Highway at 90-100 mph cranking Heavy Metal tunes.
Great comment, man and thanks so much for sharing that. These Vics come in so many different versions, just like you stated, that there's a Vic model for everyone. -Chris
I plan on putting a Mustang GT throttle body on mine after the New Years which will make the car a lot more fun. I also get weird reactions from other drivers especially when coming up behind them on the highway they see the CV grill and head lights they usually slow down to the speed limit as I change lanes and blow past them.
I have a caprice and I like it. The expensive stuff is body parts, but if you can wait and hunt diligently, not too bad considering how few were brought over. The engines are not exotic and parts are just regular everyday parts. I like the crown vics too from a utility aspect and there is no difficulty finding body panels, bumpers and the like. I've never driven a vic, but I know I would like it!
If I bought the caprice, it would be that nobody in my area would have one because there rare but I'll go with the vic allday.
I am in NY and have only seen a handful of Chevy Caprice PPV police cars on the road since it was introduced in 2011. I didn't know it was discontinued last year. It was sad to see Ford discontinue the Crown Vic, which dominated the police car market.
The Chevy is newer and rollover regulations have made necessary bigger A pillars. All cars are now suffering from reduced visibility.
Thanks man for checking out my comparison video. Appreciate you chiming too about those A-pillars.
Police cars in the late 70s through the early 90s had full roll cages and could protect those people inside the vehicle from major injuries but when they wanted better MPG requirements the roll cages had to go because a roll cage adds about 500 pounds to the vehicle back in those days.
The large A-pillar cross-sections are probably not as much for roll-over; more for offset frontal crash performance. Same with the raked windshield; which reduces the bending stresses at the top of the A pillar. Both are about improving cabin strength by reducing the risk of the A-pillar buckling under the offset frontal impact. I think that during this era, they were chasing better impact performance for the 64km/h offset crash test that was introduced for the published ANCAP safety ratings; even though only the 56km/h test was legally mandated.
This "feature" was always merited a complaint from reviewers in Australia for the Commodore/Statesman/Caprice architecture, right from their launch in mid 2006.
Obviously the correct answer is variety and one should own one of each - vic, taraus, charger, caprice, & tahoe
Hey man, great answer and great comment! Thanks so much for that! -Chris
Crown Victoria’s came with two different transmissions. 4R70W and 4R70E. The engines are also different. There’s two engine block designations. Some crown Vic police cars came with civilian interior upon request. Do your research. They also came with different rear end gears.
I'd love that caprice but i'd never talk bad about a vic at the same time. Both very nice cars
It was interesting to see our Aussie Caprice in U.S. cop car form, the interior is the base model Omega not the standard top spec as here, also AFM was dropped here in Australia due to the reliability issues. GM Holden spent 1 Billion dollars AU in developing the VE making the all new Zeta platform it sits on and everything else unique to the vehicle,previously all Holdens from the Commodore era were based on Opel platforms making the VE the most Australian Holden of all. Sadly GM pulled the pin and Holden stopped local car manufacturing at the end of 2017. I have a VE Ute and wouldn't part with it, I know there are guy's in the States who are importing them and converting to left hand drive and people who have them love them and wonder why they were never put on the market. Great video too thanks for the comparison.
Call me biased,but I'm from a Ford family,and Ford's are much more dependable with longevity.And.The dude driving,I don't know where you were at,but you should've taken them out on 95,or Governor Printz and REALLY opened up-
I vote for the Crown Victoria. It's been the "cruiser" for years and I've always liked the body style better because everyone knows it's the "POLICE CAR" up ahead.
I've been a fan of the crown victoria for years so i have to go with the Vic
Ive got a 99 Crown Vic with 198,000 miles & its a real workhorse. Im currently looking at a 2016 Caprice PPV but with the V6. Im guessing that the V6 wont have the lifter problems?
With the cost of replacement parts, I can’t believe the caprice was only $20 more a year for insurance. I expected lit to be more than $20 a month more!
Thanks man for following along with my vid's on the Caprice and Tahoe. I appreciate that! -Chris
Hey man I’ve been trying to get my hands on a Chevy caprice 2014 6.0L do you know where I should look I’m also in Wilmington Delaware and I subscribed to the channel
Caprice definitely a better looking vehicle and better performing, but just because of the lifter problem u described and the expensive repair and cost of other parts i would stay far away from it. Can’t go wrong with the Crown Vic. although I have noticed as the years go by not too many decent lower mileage ones are around.
Thanks man and you're right about the good, low mileage Vic's disappearing. At auction, whenever a good Vic comes up, with under 100K miles, the bidding gets crazy. Last month one here that sold at auction was maroon, had 80K miles, was in good shape and sold for $3800. -Chris
The last three P71 Vic's I bought had well over 100K miles and they all run great. They were Sheriff Deputy take home cars and received regular fleet maintenance by the county. Some city police cars get ran around the clock on different shifts.
The Crown Vic. It's a way better look. It is a way better car on the road to handle. It got a lot of greater power. And it is also a better car to keep on the road to last a lifetime.
Crown Victoria police interceptor for me
Holden Caprice all day
I'm sure the Caprice is a much more modern car with better performance all around. I do still like my CVPI though. It's a 2000 with 205K miles, factory 3.55 tracloc rear end, PI head swap for 10.5:1 compression, stage 2.5 cams, longtube headers, 3600 rpm stall 9.5in torque converter, plus literally every other bolt on with a great dyno tune for 277 rwhp weighing under 4000 lbs. The whole nine. In hindsight, I should have just saved for a supercharger but I do love the car and plan on keeping it until the frame rusts out underneath me.
The thing about the Vic's performance is that it not only feels a lot faster from the inside than it actually is, but it legitimately is surprisingly fast if you get it in the right part of the powerband. It seems to do very well for a 277rwhp car. For example, I know from experience that my car will stay neck and neck with a 99-04 Mustang GT equipped with the typical bolt ons well past 100mph. The outcome of that race is decided by which driver is dumb enough to keep pushing, not the performance of the car itself. In fact, with the 3.55 gears and the 3600 rpm stall my car will beat nearly any Foxbody or New Edge Mustang to 60. Where my car really shines is through 2nd gear from about 35 to 85mph. Between those speeds it is unbelievable what it will keep up with.
So it's not the fastest car on the road by any means, but definitely a lot of fun and honestly fast enough for me. but it's not really the power that keeps me from getting a new car. I just love the way it rides and handles. I love how easy it is to drive with much better all around visibility than any newer car despite its size. I especially love the RWD. Anything front wheel drive is just foreign to me. All of the complaints people have about RWD being harder to control, particularly in rain and snow, just don't make a difference when you know exactly how your car will react in any given situation. I have so much time behind the wheel of these cars that oversteer is completely natural to me. With snow tires and some extra weight in the trunk it is just as capable if not better than any other car in the snow. I can't imagine driving anything else (except for the 04 Town Car I drive for work haha).
Personally I like the caprice more cause the 6.0 and they are less hyped.
Good luck on the maintenance lol
Hi..l am an Aussie...
Nice job on the video..we use the commodore ss as police cars here.. great cars..
As l own one..but l think for reliability your vic would be better...
Love to own one...keep up the good work..
I drove a 1989 Chevy caprice and a 1996 Ford crown vic. The Vic was so much faster and better handling than the caprice. The caprice was a gutless wonder. I would take a Vic over a Caprice when it came to power.
Are my eyes playing with me or is the camo pattern missing from the RR door pillar?
Vic and Taurus
I don't why,you didn't state, It's actually a Holden Commodore!! WHY G.M., CAN'T MAKE IT IN THE STATES, IS BEYOND ME!!!
The accidents you showed where mostly front end and side damage. If the mirrors where that big of an issue there would be more rear damage to these cars plus the fact that these accidents happen while they were in service vehicles.. And probably from cops not being able to control or balance that hp when under higher speed conditions, I've had me chevy 3 yrs now and not one issue with the cylinder deactivation system... It could be a issue for these cars because that feature is hardly ever used when on patrol... And this is just me the vic is just old school bottom line and the 4.6 engine had its own issues under the hood, I'll take the performance and style all day..But parts engine for the capri should be crossable with any 5.3 engine body panels would be a issue ..These two car are like apples and oranges.. Thanks for the video
Hey what about the Tahoe PPV too? On a serious note, I'd be afraid of parts/ repair for the Caprice. The Crown Vics are just too plentiful and (cheap) parts are abundant.
Brotha, I'm so bitter about that Tahoe and the repair work. I'm at the point where I just threw my hands up in disgust. It's been 5 months since I dropped it off at the shop for cam and lifters. The engine is in pieces, half done with no expected completion date. Pissed isn't a strong enough word!
@@hullinger I was wondering what the fate of the tahoe was.
@@hullinger Whats the hold up on the Tahoe. They are not really all that hard to do engine work on, especially the 2wd ones.
I love me my Chevy's, but as far as police cars go, nothing beats the Crown Vic
chevorlet caprice is a nice car without question but , caprice it's a little bit luxury for a police car and not cheap
Clearly you didn't watch the Ford Interceptor track testing
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Yea I love the vic from a visual and traditional standpoint. But the Explorer Interceptor is a better vehicle in every way, more powerful, faster, better handling, space, view, safety, traction and while they looked ridiculous in the first gen but after a few facelifts I think they're a more imposing presence then a vic when in police spec
@@joeyguitar2056 agreed. My point is more about its ability to, as the old Timex commercial use to say, take a licking and keep on ticking.
Are sure you want to say that friend? because my 95 9c1 with the lt1 in it eats vics as appetizers
I flipped many former highway patrol, and city cars. 90% of them being CVPI's. We would drive the Fords from Denver where we picked them up, to San Antonio. Never, never did we have a one of them leave us sitting along side the highway waiting for a wrecker. We found the common failing is the alternator and some rear end issues. I had one that the fuel pump (located in the fuel tank) went out. That was the biggest expense of all of them. Most of the Fords we bought had anywhere from 80000 to 125000 miles on them. Another thing that was not mentioned here is the idle hours. Ford advises the idle hour is equal to 33 miles. You can find some of these cars that will have in excess of 9000 idle hours. Again, never did seem to effect the performance though. If you are not familiar with how to obtain the hours, push the "trip meter" twice. The second push will give you the hours. That Chevy looked good, but for my money, I'll stay with the Ford Crown Victoria.
Hey man, thanks for jumping in on the Caprice vs. Vic video. Appreciate you sharing all that too. These Vic's seem pretty indestructible. I've had a few and all were great cars. And like you, I had to replace a fuel pump and tank. Wasn't awful but that was the worst problem I've had. -Chris
There will never be a better car than the Crown Vic.
Not even the charger
true dat brotha, panther strong
Yea. That’s why they make them still in 2023 … wait
Vic is my choice.
My State still uses the Crown Victoria. However their being slowly phased out. And the Tahoe, and Explorer interceptor along with the Charger are taking over. Only 4 cities in my state that I know of used the Caprice. The Caprice just wasn't in my state. Ford and Mopar rule the area I live in.
Hey man, thanks for watching my Vic vs. Caprice video. Appreciate that and your comment too. It's weird how few Caprices were brought into the US. It's like Chevy wasn't really serious about trying to sell them. -Chris
I think you answered your own question at the very end. CROWN VICTORIA EVERY TIME!
BOOM! love mine
Hey Kenny Baird, nice to hear from ya. And yeah, I like that you said "BOOM" to that reply about the Vic vs. Caprice.
I've got a 98 Interceptor, still runs great despite a few hiccups. Always have a smile on my face when
I'm driving. I'd prefer the Crown Vic over the caprice.
Think we are part of the rare group. Not many have a 98 anymore. Mine has 240k on it and still runs great. Love the vic
real cars are rear wheel drive
they are both rear wheel drive
you're making me want to get another Caprice. Car to car, without considering price & repair cost/frequency, the Caprice is far better. But overall the Vic is the better one - you just can't get everything you get in a Vic for anywhere near the price. And then you add in the reliability, ease of repairs, and availability of cheap parts
So u can't get part for the new caprice.cause I have a 87caprice
After working on veh I cles for nearly 35years I'll say the crown vic will still be running after that caprice hits the junkyard
Vic is just reliable and cheap and power wise does what is needed just fine. So I prefer the Vic. It's so easy simple not so flashy. There's a reason cops drove them for so long. And as a vic driver I love em. I can work on them I don't have to take them to the shop I don't have to pay out the ass Auto Parts or labor and to be honest there's no shortage in Parts they are everywhere. So to say the least Vic is better car. Just cuz the Caprices has more horsepower doesn't mean anything it's all about the driver not the vehicle. Oh yeah and you actually drive the it doesn't drive you
Cool comment and prospective. I appreciate you chiming in and sharing all that. Thanks! -Chris
Ya man I love you videos super informative and fun keep it up. Your videos make me proud to be a Vic owner and Driver. You got some pretty sweet rides too!!!!! I'm in the process right now fixing mine up. Everything mechanically works great I just need to get all my cosmetics dialed in.
So true. I can fix most thing myself, and I don't have much car work expiriance. So worth it. I bought my 04 vic in 2006, 66k miles only paid 7500. Crazy for a 2 year old car.
@@austinkilla_hunter7333 Caprice are sought after because its basically a "cheap" Pontiac G8/chevy SS with a dod delete and cam upgrade its a dragcar...that LS 6.0 is what makes it worth it. BUT parts are a pain in the ass
I just bought a 2009 cvpi with 80K miles. Loving it so far!
Love those Vic's! Thanks for watching and for the comment too! -Chris
12:26 Spotted a Vic! I enjoyed this video quite a bit and I think you nailed it on the comparison between the cars. As a GM BBody owner I'm more a fan of the Caprice PPV but I love the Panther platform for being so old school and simple. The panther is the perfect old school cop car and the PPV seems to be the coolest modern cop car on the market these days. Both great cars for their time! I think for power and style the PPV is better, but for reliability the CVPI is better.
Hey man, thanks for joining in the discussion between the Caprice and the Crown Vic. -Chris
if only history had changed and we saw the revised 2012 version of the panther body
The Caprice, To hard to get parts. My brothers police department used them, they would have to wait for weeks for parts. Used parts are also scarce. I would take a Hemi Charger over the Caprice.
Appreciate you watching and following along. Thanks for the comment too and what you've seen on waiting for parts. Appreciate that! -Chris
That's probably because it's built by Holden (GM's Australian division)
A much newer, solid, modern, etc alternative to the technically dated Crown Vic
Although the Vic was a solid product, it was the lack of modernization that killed it.
The Caprice, well in Australia it was the complete opposite of pursuit vehicles 🤣
Same chassis designed & engineered by Holden (Zeta)
Also went on becoming the underpinnings of Chevrolet's 5th Gen Camaro
Hence why replacement parts are expensive, because of the Australian production.
@@ThomasFG My brothers department would have Caprices off the road for weeks waiting for replacement parts. Ac components/motor mounts, seat belts were the big ones. They have had some camshaft failures as well.
@@mph5896 Unfortunately the AFM (Active Fuel Management) V8 was a problem child
They should have given you guys the LS3 like ours got near the end of production 😁
The 3.6L SIDI V6 was junk, way more problems than they're worth. I do like old school GM
B & D body cars with that Gen 2 LT1 were simply fantastic
Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
Buick Roadmaster
Chevrolet Caprice
Last of an era for GM, before they went to crap everything.
@@mph5896 so I can't get part from O'Reilly on the new caprice.cause I have a 87caprice
I have an 01 grand Marquis that was used as a detective car and has the lights still in the grill also have a 2004 same exact car but civilian model it’s amazing how different the cars feel when ur driving them. But I loved ur video look forward to seeing ur name come on my notifications
Thanks so much man. I appreciate your kind words and yeah, it's amazing how different these Panthers can be. It's crazy that your GM was for police work! -Chris
I drive an 08 Vic, love it and always will. I think comparing these two is like apples and oranges. They're similar in price but it comes down to what YOU want as a buyer and driver. Personally I prefer the Vic because of how safe it is
Lol, they are 2 cars how is it apples to oranges?
The Vic I love my Grand Marquis so much feel safe driving it great car for long road trip too
both of these cars are nice,but i think reliability matters more than styling.stylewise,the caprice is more modern,than the crown vic,but me personally id choose the crown vic,over the caprice.i like the size of it,and fords v8,is super reliable,and parts are plentiful,and cheap.ive always wanted one,but havent gotten around,to getting one yet.great video.i didnt know the caprice was made in australia either.interesting.
Hey man, welcome back and thanks for checking out my Vic vs. Caprice video. Hope you liked it and I appreciate the comment too. -Chris
@Richard Skipper True but the rear end will make a huge difference. Going from a 2.73 to 3.27 ratio is a good improvement and a 3.55 feels great off the line. Some people go up to 4.10.
Rainbowboi I95 1 your typing ability is very low.
@@littledeel so is your intelligence level,smartass you.
O yeah I think the 2006 -2011 Interceptor has more horsepower than 250 they under rated.
They need to bring the vic back with performance in mind.. that would be fun
As a Vic owner, you already know my answer lol. As you mentioned, they are very durable and inexpensive, along with being tried and true, that's a win-win in my book. But this comment may be biased as well.. lol
I have used both on patrol. The Crown Vic is more comfortable and has a better ride. The Caprice is a beast, rides like a rock and is uncomfortable on a 12 hour shift. I now have an 18' Tahoe PPV and it is very comfortable, handles and performs well. All three are great daily driver's when not wearing police gear.
Hey man, great comment and great prospective too. I appreciate you chiming in on your thoughts on the Vic, Caprice and Tahoe. Thanks, as always! -Chris
That riding like a rock feeling is called handling in the rest of the world. American cars are still poorly built barges, which wallow and can't steer with accuracy. The panel and internal components gaps create squeaky sounds very quickly.
Crown Vic every time. Mine's got 250,000+ miles and still going. My mom liked it so much that she bought two for herself. Super stable on ice. I keep looking for a "better" car but can't find any. All new cars have much worse visibility and cramped interior. Vics have wide-open interior. Simple drivetrain and plain interiors.
Thanks for chiming on the Vic vs. Caprice video and the discussion in the comments section. -Chris
If I were trying to catch someone, I'd use the Chevy/Holden...if I wanted to smash another vehicle off the road, I'd want the Vic. The Vic is also tried and true (meaning it's easy to fix and maintain).
My experience with vans was similar...the Ford van I found the steering "imprecise", but I could drive over huge rocks and smash any other vehicle into pieces, as necessary. When I was later issued a Chevy van, I could outrun and outmaneuver everything. Although the Chevy was more comfortable, I didn't think it would have held together as well in the event of some unforeseen "road trauma"....
Great comment and observation on the different vans and thanks for sharing that. Appreciate you watching the Vic vs. Caprice video too. It's nice to hear from you again as well! -Chris
Caprice all day long. I have not owned one but come on. Chevy LS based engine, sport shift option, option to turn traction control completely off, 355ish horse power, i think it looks killer. It is an fantastic sleeper. I had a 2003 intercepter. It was ok. It looked nice with it's dark blue paint job and black steel wheels. But it was a slug. The 4.6 2 valve was boring. My next car will be a 2011-2017 caprice, hopefully black on black.
He man, you're sooo right about the Vic and the power. It's probably the weakest piece of the car - just not enough horsepower. And getting that engine to make more takes lots of cash too. The Caprice has that in spades and because of that, it's such a fun car to drive. Thanks again for your thoughts! -Chris
Dude we get it, you're a virgin. You don't need to brag about it.
The Chevy Caprice is a very interesting car. It came from Australia, and wasn’t available to the general public? No wonder I had never heard of it before, until now.
There was a similar car called the Pontiac G8 which was sold to the public. Also, Chevy had a car called the SS that was available for a few years but sold in very low numbers.
@@moonbeamskies3346 both were based on the Holden Commodore, with the Pontiac version also being sold in Canada whole the Chevrolet version wasn't.
Yes, in Australia the PPV sold as a luxury variant of the Holden Commodore and it was trimmed to the max with all the extra luxury bits.
Crown Vic. Love my 08 CVPI. Gave $4k for it. Had 53,000 miles and 1200 idle hours. Looks immaculate inside and out. Was a supervisor unit.
The Crown Victoria was originally built to be a police vehicle only in late 50s but ford decided it would be a good idea to have a civilian version of the car as well. Crown Victoria’s is the best made ever made as far as strength and brute force seriously body built on frame cars built to last my grandma had two Crown Victoria’s her first one died in a flash flood the second one died in a t-bone accident a 1992 Chevy 1 ton SRW extended cab long bed hit her 1987 4 door Crown Victoria at 75 mph at a 4 way intersection her light was green his was red she just started to accelerate through the intersection when the truck was speeding and drunk when he hit her car on the driver side the she was driving was struck sending sideways about 35 yards and jumping a curb and nearly plowed into a business building she and her sister were in the car both her and her sister were both able to walk away from the accident only with minor injuries cuts and bruises the car was totaled of course the accident happened in the late 90s to early 2000s both Crowd Victoria’s was mid to late 80s models a unibody car of today might would not been so lucky if the same accident had happened. I know first hand because one of my closest friend had a similar accident just recently and he didn’t make it his car was 2012 Honda Civic same size truck hit him at 78 mph.
I just own my 01 P71 10 yrs now and I wouldn't swap it for any modern shitty caprice :D
Vic forever..... :-)
Hey Frank, I just noticed your avatar is the graffiti from one of your videos. That's awesome!
@@hullinger nice, isn't it? But it is a little more harmless in this public area without the f-word :-). That is the reason I have cut it a little bit. Greetings from Frank from Germany... hope you like my videos and understand my German - american- englisch
.. And like the content
I'd take the Crown Vic everyday of the week. i live 5 minutes from where the Holden commodore (caprice) was built, here in South Australia, and i know the type of drop kicks GMH employed to build those things.
I dont know how chevy screwed up the cylinder deactivation so bad. Chrysler has had minimal problems and the system is awesome in my charger.
Great job! Really liked seeing your experiences with both vehicles. Part of me wants to get a Caprice PPV, but like you mentioned, they are pricey. The Crown Vic is definitely a more iconic car and will be remembered for many years to come. Sometimes I wonder if it will end up like the old Impala's from the 60's - and become a car club icon in the 2030's and 2040's.
Hey Alan, nice to hear from ya and thanks for joining along. You know, when I watch your videos I see that green grass, that warm sun and blue skies. Makes me wonder why I'm not living in Tampa! -Chris
You will not find another car besides the crown vic that is as cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, easy to find parts for, and has the space a vic does, with still decent speed. These newer unibody police cars are really expensive to maintain, they don't hold up in a crash like a crown vic and there's no room in them, besides the ford explorer or tahoe. The tahoes are complete duds. The explorers have great speed even without ecoboost. The only thing I can knock the crown vic for is how slow it is and how plain it is, but everything else is spot on. The ground clearance in a vic is another staple that you won't find in another car. The chargers won't even clear a small ice chunk on the road and they bottom out on uneven ground. Good luck even clearing a curb let alone going off road in a charger.
I have a 2011 caprice ppv and love it. Best decision ever. So sexy, comfortable, and extremely fast. And also love having something rare that not everyone has.
Crown Vic is the best the Chevy is a fail it won't last . 💀🦂💀
Caprice all day. The VIC handles like a damn oil tanker. Had a company car that was a retired patrol car (was actually referred to as the patrol car) and i hated driving that damn thing. Can’t see what the hype is all about. Then again, i drive a Taurus, and a colleague drives a Charger.
guess all the police departments were wrong and you were right
Hi everybody , im from mexico and I have the crown vic civil model 97 and that car never broke up ,only the battery....this caprice is fine to.......nice video buddy thanks and good luck
Da only vehicle worth comparing to da Interceptor is da 9C1 of '96.
Dat $24k msrp if I'm mistaken I'm sorry but was only if u bought a certain amount in 1 shot. I've been told if departments could only buy 1 or 2 at a time had to pay $45k per.
Thanks for checking in and for watching that comparison video . When I bought my Caprice I found the "window sticker" that showed $30,170 as the base price and another $1k in options. I think you're right though that volume purchases got a discount. Just don't know what it would have been. -Chris
@@hullinger Da prices I was referrin to were for da Interceptor. Da current "Caprice" is just ugly as all hell to me. I 1st came across them years ago droppin someone off at JFK & was like dat's a Caprice?!? Oh how far dat car has fallen from what she once was. JFK had a bunch as their security vehicles. Da Chinese market only version they were sellin year ago was gorgeous. Don't know if they're still bein sold or if they've gone through a redesign.
I don’t know yet but I have a 09 P71 it’s a great car . But I will be getting a 2014 caprice soon then I will know. U got both of them what one u like better?
Hey man, thanks for checking in and for the comment. Which car do I like? I like them both for different purposes. The Vic is my daily and I'll use it to haul tools, ladder and anything else I need it for. Kinda like having a work truck. The Caprice sits in the garage most of the time and it's for longer drives and going out with the family. It's like having work clothes and dress-up clothes. Both do the job but have different purposes. -Chris
The Caprice May be faster but the Crown Victoria’s have class.
The police interceptors are bare bone, not classy.
I’d know that god awful accent anywhere.
Not really sure how to response to that, but hey, thanks for watching!
I'm hysterically laughing at this exchange. I think because you can interpret the original comment as you recognized his voice specifically, calling it god awful. Like you guys are old friends or something.
The other day we raced a 1996 Chevy Caprice Classic and a 2000 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. The Vic being an actual retired cop car, our Caprice Classic never served yet it beat the Vic. But with a few tweaks I'm hoping the Vic will beat it next time.
Random was the caprice a lt1?
@@johnbroskey2547 If it was, that's like a 50hp advantage. I have a 2000 CVPI and I can say it will take a lot of time and money to close that gap if staying N/A. It's not impossible, (I've done it and I usually don't regret it) but I would definitely go with a supercharger if I were starting over.
Yes it's a LT1 350
They're both good cars. Ford really dropped the ball with the Vic though. They had better options available for engine and trans that would have made the Vic a stronger competitor. They just never pushed it.
I completely agree with you on Ford not caring to develop the Vic anymore. Just updating the transmission would have made a world of difference, much less dropping in an Ecotech. Thanks, man! -Chris
5.0 Coyote and 6 speed auto and boom you're set for another couple decades. Maybe add in an ecoboost option for the people who hate America lmao.
The Caprice in Australia and New Zealand is the top level of the GM Holden range, Aussies Cadillac. In fact Aussie GM refused to import the Cadillac (which nearly happened but was scuttled at the last minute) because they couldn't see the point in importing a GM flag ship to compete with their own GM flag ship. The Caprice PPV is de-luxuried or downscaled version. I used to have a 2002 model.
Hey nice video but what’s up with the Tahoe are you goin to sell it ?
The crown vic I think is better. Lower repair costs, more room . Better ride
Wow. I''m 24, own two 2005 silverados and pay $230 a MONTH for insurance.
Call me old-school, but I prefer the CVPV. I just find it more attractive to look at than the newer Caprice PPV.
Jason, you know I love old-school! You and me are the same that way. Thanks as always for watching!!! -Chris
@@hullinger You're welcome. I hope you have a fun holiday. :)
I don't know why they stopped making the caprice in Saudi Arabia we love this car the last model of the caprice in Saudi Arabia is 2016
Nothing puts fear in a driver’s heart than a civilian driving a retired Crown Vic😂
The caprice is nice until you drive like a patrolman then that shit breaks down like a lego set
I think you can have the DOD deactivated.
Hello From Vietnam like video
Hello from the east coast of the United States! Thanks so much for checking in and for watching my comparison video between the Vic and Caprice. I really appreciate that! -Chris
None of these comparisons are valid anymore. With Chevy abandoning all police sedans in 2017, and Ford ending orders for the Taurus PI in September of 2018, the Charger Pursuit is now America's police car.
For 2020, even the new Exploder PI will suffer in sales to the big Dodge. Why? The bid-out price for a bare bones '20 Exploder PI is near $36,000. The AWD V8 Charger Pursuit is near $24,000. That's a 3 for 2 ratio, and that kind of price difference means even those agencies with a preference for the Ford will not be able to justify the price. The Tahoe starts at $34,000, and the AWD V8 Durango Pursuit starts at $29,000.
Dodge will also run Ford's nose into it with their new 2020 Ram Pursuit, which expected to beat the F-150 PI's laughable top speed by 18 mph.
My mom is an nearly 80 yo.Woman.And I see SO many elders on the road driving those Crown Vics.Maybe it's their size,power,durability,and who knows,simply because it's a modern takebake on those good Ford's they drove us around in,who are NOW, the parents and grandparents today.Those old folks???-Watch.Listen.And learn.FORD!!!'--😉
A more fair comparison would be that Crown Vic vs the Chevy Impala SS or Caprice from 1991-1996 which was a closer competitor to the Crown Vic from 1992-2012 and faster because of the Chevys 5.7 LT1 vs the underpowered 4.6 2 valve V8 on the Ford, which really needed at least the 3 valve 4.6 making 300hp the Mustang GT got in 2005 but never did get.
Of course the CVPI is a better car. But I got beat by a Shitpala in my 05 ... he had some mods done (exhaust being one) on it. But after he passed me I got to watch oil and smoke shoot out from it ... and that was enjoyable. There's nothing that can out live the Ford 4.6L 2V.
Swap NASCAR engines in the Chevy Caprice and Ford Crown Victoria instead. They both perform NASCAR equality. I think of NASCAR powered Crown Victorias in Forza Motorsport 7. I hope that 2011 Chevy Caprice comes to Forza Motorsport 8 and Forza Horizon 5.
Apples and oranges. There are REASONS the Vic outsold the Chev for police service. How many police chases have we ALL seen repeatedly on RUclips videos in which the Crown Vic wins in the end? Countless. Driving skill makes up for a tremendous difference in horsepower and torque. So. Price, value, reliability, longevity and the ability to get the job done were what separated the Ford and Chevy. For police service there WAS no comparison. Was the Chev more fun to drive? Of course. But what has that to do with police work? Nothing. Zero. The simplicity of the big Ford and the countless numbers made were big reasons the Crown Vic was the sales winner by a HUGE margin for police service. Parts were easy to get and CHEAP, as most were civilian version. And even the parts specific to the P71 were readily available and cheap because of the sheer volume of P71s on the road. Ford OWNED that segment for many years, just as they have and continue to do with pickup trucks. Nuff said
Right off the bat, I'd rather have the Crown Vic. Half the reason for owning a used police vehicle is that they are virtually bulletproof, and the new Caprice PPV doesn't qualify there, which brings me to a question. Why are you comparing Apple's and oranges? You should compare your P71 to the old style Caprice and the new Caprice with a Ford Taurus Police Interceptor. Just my opinion.
the Caprice does NOT have a civilian counterpart. the SS is not even close to the same car, nor is the G8.
Its not that hard to source parts for the Caprice either. Its the LS2 bottom end with an LS3 top end. plenty of those hanging around. Truck parts fit too. They didn't reinvent the wheel (build a whole new motor) for this car.
362hp* ...just saying.
and DOD is removable with a little bit of knowhow.
Look at the LAPD tests and results on both the CVPI and 9C1.....which car passed them all?
Even tho I’ve owned only 2 crown Vic’s and love em as the ultimate police car, I would MUCH RATHER drive the caprice Ona daily (making believe that they both had same reliability standards, clearly they don’t) for the simple fact that the caprice Ppv was only ever known as a LE vehicle in this country, being never sold to general public. Anytime you on the road, no one wants an issue! Beautiful.
Thanks for taking the time to compare the two cars. Very objective video.
I bought a like new 42,000 mile 2005 Mercury Marque anniversary model for $5000 18 months back and love it. We also have a new Dodge charger and a newer civic but rarely ever drive them. I did go over everything on the car after we bought it. I replaced the breaks, belt and hoses, antifreeze, headlight module, Optima battery along with new Michelin tires. We are retired and travel, last year we drove the Mercury on a 6,500 mile trip out west and enjoyed every mile.
When vehicles are concerned, I go by the KISS Principal (Keep It Simple Stupid). All vehicles are 'money pits' !
Why add insult to injury by compounding the pain of exorbitant repair bills.This is why I drive an 07 Crown Vic.
A better comparison would be the B Body Caprice and Crown Vic. The new Caprice is a completely different genre of car. I guess it doesnt matter too much because everyone knows that 4.6 is a boat anchor in comparison to the LT1. If Chevy had kept making the B Body as long as Ford did, the real icon would've been the Caprice. Don't forget, city streets were once full of Caprice cop cars and taxis rather than Crown Vics... They only switched once Chevy stopped making the Caprice. The B Body Caprice was the only one police agencies bothered to restore from scratch once they had reached the end of their service life because they liked them so much.