I have a bad feeling that ZoS is going to use scribing as their big selling point then once sales drop, they will nerf scribing. They have some this time and time again and unfortunately I just don't see them changing this pattern
Absolutely they will.. When you've spent hundreds of hours grinding it they'll nerf it.. The PvP community will also be screaming about this OP and that OP etc forcing them to nerf it for the PvE players.
@@Lenny_linguine arcanist is good now but just wait until it's as long as necro. Necro used to be a pay for class and look at it now lol bottom of the barrel once sales drop. Just wait for the sales revenue to drop is all
I still enjoy both. I enjoy the trials and pushing myself and my skill. I dont enjoy theory craft and am thankful for those of you that do. I also enjoy questing and the story lines.
Fantastic content. The first time I see someone covering this game and doing so in an honest an straight forward manner. You are offering several perspectives instead of the classic RUclipsr that only provide overhyped positive product worshipping. Keep up the good work my man
Thanks Alex, I really appreciate you dropping a comment. Unfortunately every time I say something honest and critical about any game, I seem to loose subscribers and generate a decent amount of hate messages. A more jaded person might conclude that people just want you to lie to them. It does make it clear why the positive comments only RUclipsrs get such a big crowd. But I just can’t bring myself to do it. Let’s hope it’s not a fatal flaw on my part, I really want this RUclips thing to work out. lol
Thank you for this video. I am interested in this update for the game, but I'll wait at least a year for it to be cheap. I did that for Necrom and I enjoyed it for a fraction of the first price.
I bought it because of the scribing just like I bought Summerset for the jewelry crafting. I have ESO Plus, but I may drop that someday. I enjoy anything that has gold making potential. 😀 Right now scribing doesn't have much but it will grow over time.
I don’t even recommend this game to my friends or family. lol. It’s a huge time sink filled with laggy gameplay that makes you wanna throw your controller a lot of the time. Plus, they’ve got some shady business practices. I will concede that it’s an okay game for the casual types but maybe not so much for the hardcore PVE’ers and especially the PVP’ers. The server performance is just so bad.
I think you might have that turned around. You can just purchase crowns if you want them, you have to get eso+ to get the crafting bag, which many consider essential for enjoyable gameplay. Also the crowns are to get you to look in the crown store. Once you crack the seal there is a higher likelihood you will buy. This is a common tactic to entice customers to spend more.
I am definitely concerned about alternate characters that utilize scribing, and how often class scripts and affixes will change depending on the content being done. I hear that the currency for skill ending is pretty stingy. for example, I have a soul burst idea in mind for a DPS character in arena content, but also a tank character in group content. Well I have to consume an ink between these two different characters? Or does it save the same way that I left it character? Does one character’s changes affect the other?
For an MMO ESO has very little "pay to play" monetization. If you want to pay for anything get the plus subscription, it actually gives a lot for the money.
For sure, it might all be a matter of perspective, but their lot crate and other practices are certainly predatory. Perhaps less predatory than some, but that’s a distinction largely without difference.
yeah idk. i kinda toned down my playtime and i guess i'm quitting bc i'm not even planning to buy the new chaper, and if i don't get it, i'm obsolete - no new trial, no access to the new meta sets and scribing skills. i can't even find it in me to be excited for the new system bc like you mentioned it just means more grind, esp for engame pve supports. one thing that kinda made me excited was the skill visuals customisation, but it seems limited so far and i can't help but guess that all the best stuff will be packaged for sale in the crown store. maybe it is a good time to quit actually. been playing since 2019
Scribing is a mid to weak system. The stubborn refusal to listen to players about ink dropping to even experiment with the system is beyond smooth brain. (Insert "ive found x amounts of ink, its not rare" comments...yes it is ) And because the rest of the content is super light ...almost criminal how little else there is to do while charging for a full price chapter..youll be wasting most of your time grinding in this chapter. Far beyond anything previously. Is it worth coming back if youve quit? Absolutely not.
What shape is Cyrodil in right now? Last I poked into ESO peope were complaining about bow one shotting folks and now you could just teleport up to walls and skip the siege phase. Any new pvp zones added? The area under the imperial city was neat.
No new PvP zones. I don’t hardly Cyril at all anymore, so I unfortunately couldn’t tell you, but it’s not like anything major has changed. Some of the new skills are pretty broken for PvP though.
@@Nightharrow @Nightharrow Not upset but was looking for info on what is actually in this dlc as opposed to a fair but focused discussion on ESO's monetisation which is as bad/good as most other RPG MMO's if you're a veteran of such. I felt the video title a smidge misleading and ulitmately didn't contain the information that I felt would be pertinent to both the title or the supposed "worth" of the update, the premise of which you don't answer: "Should you buy?"
@@Nightharrow i think the point here was that you have a video called "should you buy golden road" and you actually only talk about it once at the end of the video. A video that you spend the majority of whining about things like ESO +. if you think the monetization is bad here i invite you to play WOW in current day. as far as value goes ESO + is actually really good. go try to play destiny 2 or ff14 and see if their monthly sub gives you access to the bulk of their DLC. and i am leaving out loot boxes bc you don't need any of the things in them so just ignore them. if you are making a video about golden road talk about golden road not how crap you think the microtransactions are. imagine you are writing a 400 page book titled CHESS! but talks about checkers until page 399. thats the problem here.
@1123walkman FF14 is completely free from base game to Stormblood (Base game + 2 expansions out of 4). That's over half of the entire content of the game for 0$. That beats ESO by a mile. Then, when you're finally ready to buy, they give you a free month of subscription. Ontop of that, ff14s sub is slightly cheaper. The monetization in ESO is damn near as bad as a FTP game. Constantly in your face, fomos, and locking the best cosmetics in the game behind a paywall.
@@cortexkiller3828 thank you for taking the time to reply, I really do appreciate it. In the first minute in a half I recommend the chapter to both old and new players. But it is fair that I go on a bit of a tangent warning people about the predatory nature of some of the monetization. I do that because in my mind I work for you guys, the consumer, so I just want to do everything I can to work in the consumers best interest. It certainly seems like some where immediately triggered by talk about monetization, which Ill be honest I dont really understand. But again, I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand at least where you are coming from. Ill try to take that perspective into account more in the future.
Long time player / Expectation for Scribing is exactly where it should be for som1 thats kept up with the system / Bought GR cause of FOMO for builds that would include the scribing skills. /Shrug - Not worth it imo honestly
I will never understand the mentality of avoiding a game because you can buy a bunch of shit in it. I almost never buy anything in games, and yet I am somehow immune to this being an issue. Maybe I'm just old and dumb. That's most certainly a likelihood.
If it’s convenience based like with the crafting bag in eso, it incentivizes companies to make problems and sell you the solutions. If it’s just to sell you cosmetics then it’s generally fine, except that it’s annoying to have to deal with pop-ups in a game you payed for. Like buying a car and being harassed by a high pressure sales people. It’s the end of a long day, you just want to have some fun, not deal with pop-ups and reminders to buy.
No, you shouldn’t buy ESO especially if on console, there are so many bugs and missing quest starters. Buggy mess, not worth buying. An unacceptable buggy mess of a game in 2024. Where the Devs can’t even be bothered to add mini map to console in the Ten years of this games life.
been playing eso since the erly betas... the things that annoy me the most is the difficulty is for toddlers, and theres literally no visual progression at all...
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If the crafting bag was free, then I’d never quit, but $15 a month just so I can loot freely is too much
Absolutely agree.
Especially after having to buy the base game
I have a bad feeling that ZoS is going to use scribing as their big selling point then once sales drop, they will nerf scribing. They have some this time and time again and unfortunately I just don't see them changing this pattern
Absolutely they will.. When you've spent hundreds of hours grinding it they'll nerf it.. The PvP community will also be screaming about this OP and that OP etc forcing them to nerf it for the PvE players.
Arcanist is still insanely good and it was necroms selling point.
Everyone does this in every game.
@@Lenny_linguine arcanist is good now but just wait until it's as long as necro. Necro used to be a pay for class and look at it now lol bottom of the barrel once sales drop. Just wait for the sales revenue to drop is all
@@Centurion305 yeah I don’t agree with the sentiment that necro is bottom of the barrel.
I still enjoy both. I enjoy the trials and pushing myself and my skill. I dont enjoy theory craft and am thankful for those of you that do. I also enjoy questing and the story lines.
Great dlc great mmorpg 100% get this game if you love elder scroll lore
Fantastic content. The first time I see someone covering this game and doing so in an honest an straight forward manner. You are offering several perspectives instead of the classic RUclipsr that only provide overhyped positive product worshipping.
Keep up the good work my man
Thanks Alex, I really appreciate you dropping a comment. Unfortunately every time I say something honest and critical about any game, I seem to loose subscribers and generate a decent amount of hate messages. A more jaded person might conclude that people just want you to lie to them.
It does make it clear why the positive comments only RUclipsrs get such a big crowd. But I just can’t bring myself to do it. Let’s hope it’s not a fatal flaw on my part, I really want this RUclips thing to work out. lol
Thank you for this video. I am interested in this update for the game, but I'll wait at least a year for it to be cheap. I did that for Necrom and I enjoyed it for a fraction of the first price.
Not a bad idea at all.
I bought it because of the scribing just like I bought Summerset for the jewelry crafting. I have ESO Plus, but I may drop that someday. I enjoy anything that has gold making potential. 😀 Right now scribing doesn't have much but it will grow over time.
Do you do the IA for gold as well? Just curious because I asked about it in a poll the other day.
No. I don't do Dungeon runs or IA for gold because I suk at that stuff. I am older and my reaction time is impaired. I craft and gather.@@Nightharrow
@spiritualspinster4222 ah, I hear you. We have a fair number of folks in the same boat. Nice that there are plenty of ways to play.
Aaaaaand what do you do with the gold? It seems like you pay to play to make the gold to spend the gold to play... Perfect circle of addiction xD
I don’t even recommend this game to my friends or family. lol. It’s a huge time sink filled with laggy gameplay that makes you wanna throw your controller a lot of the time. Plus, they’ve got some shady business practices.
I will concede that it’s an okay game for the casual types but maybe not so much for the hardcore PVE’ers and especially the PVP’ers. The server performance is just so bad.
7:12 well yes but if u have ESO Plus u get those monthly crowns. It’s essentially a crown subscription service with a bonus craft bag for free
I think you might have that turned around. You can just purchase crowns if you want them, you have to get eso+ to get the crafting bag, which many consider essential for enjoyable gameplay.
Also the crowns are to get you to look in the crown store. Once you crack the seal there is a higher likelihood you will buy. This is a common tactic to entice customers to spend more.
"Should you contribute to my content creator career? absolutely"
I am definitely concerned about alternate characters that utilize scribing, and how often class scripts and affixes will change depending on the content being done. I hear that the currency for skill ending is pretty stingy. for example, I have a soul burst idea in mind for a DPS character in arena content, but also a tank character in group content. Well I have to consume an ink between these two different characters? Or does it save the same way that I left it character? Does one character’s changes affect the other?
No, they are independent. Unless you are swapping around often to try things out it really shouldn’t be too big of a deal.
For an MMO ESO has very little "pay to play" monetization. If you want to pay for anything get the plus subscription, it actually gives a lot for the money.
For sure, it might all be a matter of perspective, but their lot crate and other practices are certainly predatory. Perhaps less predatory than some, but that’s a distinction largely without difference.
yeah idk. i kinda toned down my playtime and i guess i'm quitting bc i'm not even planning to buy the new chaper, and if i don't get it, i'm obsolete - no new trial, no access to the new meta sets and scribing skills. i can't even find it in me to be excited for the new system bc like you mentioned it just means more grind, esp for engame pve supports. one thing that kinda made me excited was the skill visuals customisation, but it seems limited so far and i can't help but guess that all the best stuff will be packaged for sale in the crown store. maybe it is a good time to quit actually. been playing since 2019
Scribing is a mid to weak system. The stubborn refusal to listen to players about ink dropping to even experiment with the system is beyond smooth brain. (Insert "ive found x amounts of ink, its not rare" comments...yes it is )
And because the rest of the content is super light ...almost criminal how little else there is to do while charging for a full price chapter..youll be wasting most of your time grinding in this chapter. Far beyond anything previously.
Is it worth coming back if youve quit? Absolutely not.
Thanks for dropping an unvarnished opinion. Hopefully it helps people out.
You can't spell "online" without an N and an O
Should you buy lag??
What shape is Cyrodil in right now? Last I poked into ESO peope were complaining about bow one shotting folks and now you could just teleport up to walls and skip the siege phase. Any new pvp zones added? The area under the imperial city was neat.
No new PvP zones. I don’t hardly Cyril at all anymore, so I unfortunately couldn’t tell you, but it’s not like anything major has changed. Some of the new skills are pretty broken for PvP though.
I always find the "how's Cyrodiil" question funny.
How's Cyrodiil?
The same it's been since 2015.
So it’s not worth it.
Definitely nothing game changing.
Discussion of monetisation vs what's in the update. Video focused only on the former...
I talked about it once at the end of the video. Interesting that it was upsetting for you, would love to understand why, if you are willing to share?
@@Nightharrow @Nightharrow Not upset but was looking for info on what is actually in this dlc as opposed to a fair but focused discussion on ESO's monetisation which is as bad/good as most other RPG MMO's if you're a veteran of such. I felt the video title a smidge misleading and ulitmately didn't contain the information that I felt would be pertinent to both the title or the supposed "worth" of the update, the premise of which you don't answer: "Should you buy?"
@@Nightharrow i think the point here was that you have a video called "should you buy golden road" and you actually only talk about it once at the end of the video. A video that you spend the majority of whining about things like ESO +. if you think the monetization is bad here i invite you to play WOW in current day. as far as value goes ESO + is actually really good. go try to play destiny 2 or ff14 and see if their monthly sub gives you access to the bulk of their DLC. and i am leaving out loot boxes bc you don't need any of the things in them so just ignore them. if you are making a video about golden road talk about golden road not how crap you think the microtransactions are. imagine you are writing a 400 page book titled CHESS! but talks about checkers until page 399. thats the problem here.
@1123walkman FF14 is completely free from base game to Stormblood (Base game + 2 expansions out of 4). That's over half of the entire content of the game for 0$. That beats ESO by a mile. Then, when you're finally ready to buy, they give you a free month of subscription. Ontop of that, ff14s sub is slightly cheaper.
The monetization in ESO is damn near as bad as a FTP game. Constantly in your face, fomos, and locking the best cosmetics in the game behind a paywall.
@@cortexkiller3828 thank you for taking the time to reply, I really do appreciate it.
In the first minute in a half I recommend the chapter to both old and new players. But it is fair that I go on a bit of a tangent warning people about the predatory nature of some of the monetization. I do that because in my mind I work for you guys, the consumer, so I just want to do everything I can to work in the consumers best interest.
It certainly seems like some where immediately triggered by talk about monetization, which Ill be honest I dont really understand.
But again, I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand at least where you are coming from. Ill try to take that perspective into account more in the future.
you shoud ask. you want to sell your personal information like mention in the terms from eso and still geting bombarded with shop doghit?
I would go back if they do a complete passive overhaul to fit all race's lore of the single-player games. They really screwed over Redguards in ESO.
So I hear you say you’re not coming back? Lol
Yeah. Don’t buy it
Long time player / Expectation for Scribing is exactly where it should be for som1 thats kept up with the system / Bought GR cause of FOMO for builds that would include the scribing skills. /Shrug - Not worth it imo honestly
One of the groups you missed are the die hard oblivion fans who love to see oblivion chapters released
Fair point. Although I think this is all new right? And if I do oblivion, then I have to do die hard Daggerfall and Arena fans as well…
I will never understand the mentality of avoiding a game because you can buy a bunch of shit in it. I almost never buy anything in games, and yet I am somehow immune to this being an issue. Maybe I'm just old and dumb. That's most certainly a likelihood.
If it’s convenience based like with the crafting bag in eso, it incentivizes companies to make problems and sell you the solutions.
If it’s just to sell you cosmetics then it’s generally fine, except that it’s annoying to have to deal with pop-ups in a game you payed for. Like buying a car and being harassed by a high pressure sales people. It’s the end of a long day, you just want to have some fun, not deal with pop-ups and reminders to buy.
Gotta spend $5,000 if you have been playing this game loyally and buying the expansions every year and have eso plus. Such a money grab.
Scribing is just another grind mechanism.
No, you shouldn’t buy ESO especially if on console, there are so many bugs and missing quest starters.
Buggy mess, not worth buying.
An unacceptable buggy mess of a game in 2024. Where the Devs can’t even be bothered to add mini map to console in the Ten years of this games life.
It's trash don't give them any money.
ESO is Not A PTW game lmao smh
Yeah I should buy I don’t need to listen to some egotistical child
No, you shouldn't buy it. Quit, and come to FF14 where the creators actually care about the game and the players.
I’ve tried FF14 several and I just can’t do the tab targeting anymore unfortunately.
@Nightharrow yeah ffxiv digged it's own grave with the terrible gameplay.
The scribing im not looking forward to its gonna be complicated
For what it’s worth, I’ve already done a few videos on it. Will be doing a final one in a few days to help simplify things.
No
If you play eso buy it, if you dont play eso dont buy it...
been playing eso since the erly betas... the things that annoy me the most is the difficulty is for toddlers, and theres literally no visual progression at all...
Not adding a new class like Hydromancer, for maximum wetness? Can I reskin my Winged Twilight into Diabolos? Not enough information of features! 😵
I’ve covered that in other videos if you want to check it out, but it’s pretty basic.