Yamaha Stage Custom Birch Recording Session
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Here's a track that I recorded on a recent session. It was written by my good friend Mark Peric and is called Immaculate Misconceptions. Mark plays all the other instruments on this track.
RAW AUDIO
Since my last video I've been asked to put something up with the raw drums sounds. Well here it is. At around 1 minute into this track the music fades leaving just the processed drums. At around 1.15, I bypass the processing and what your left listening to is the raw sound of the drums. For this session I didn't use any other preamps apart from the console (Neve Custom 75). At 1.30 the processing is re-activated and then the music comes back in at about 1.45. Hopefully you'll be able to hear the raw tone of these drums.
THE KIT
This kit is the new Yamaha Stage Custom Birch released in 2015. I am using slightly different sizes to the kit I used in my previous video. This kit has 10" 12" 14" toms, a 20" kick drum and a 14"x5.5" snare drum. I've used Remo clear Emperors on the toms, a PS3 on the kick and a coated Ambassador on the snare drum. This time I've used my own hardware (as opposed to the hardware package supplied with the kit). The cymbals are Paiste Twenty series 12" Hats and 10" splash, a dimensions 20" Dry Ride and 17" and 19" 2002 crashes.
I was fortunate enough to be able to buy literally any drum kit I wanted just last week. I chose these Yamaha Stage Customs over everything. They are not just "a great kit for the money," they're an exceptional kit at any price. I set these all up in my studio with Evans G2 coated heads, Evans EMAD system for the kick, and surrounded them with Zildjian A's...they play, feel, sound, and record flawlessly. Yamaha KNOWS how to make drums. Get over what name is on your kit, and you'll be a very happy drummer with the Stage Customs from Yamaha.
Michael Yolch i just ordered it with the zultan rock beat pro series and i am soo fking excited!!!
That snare drum is just ridiculous. Truly one of the best bang-for-your-buck kits out there.
+Eric Reyes Totally agree Eric!
@@darranmuller what heads you rocking on that snare
@@lukelackermayer coated ambassador. Says in description.
I haven't drummed in over 3 years. Whenever I think about getting another set, I always seem to come back to these Stage Customs. There is something about the sound these put out, especially that bass drum!
Totally agree. these drums sound a lot more expensive than they actually are. And yes, that 20" kick is a killer.
I own these drums in my opinion a high end set of drums at an intermediate price! The hardware/shells/ sound are just top notch
Man that snare drum is impressive. I love the high pitched crack being pushed with a little reson.
Nice ... can't get over how well these "entry level" Yamaha ' s record. Close your eyes and one would think it's a 3,500$ drum kit.
+Jeff Smith Hey Jeff. In my opinion these new Stage Custom Birch kits from Yamaha represent the best value for money in their price range at this time. No other drum company supplies a 10 lug snare drum in this price range. All other brands have 8 lug snare drums. The finishes are top quality and the sound is better than anything else at this level.
+Darran Muller Tama Superstar maple is also great kit in this price range !
They're great, but the Stage Custom Birches just blow them out of the water.
Would not say these are entry level more like intermediate.
@Greg Patnude ? its a $650 kit all day in the USA. Sounds awesome I think and top notch hardware. I cant really tell a difference sound wise for these compared to the PHX series.
...and they still sound great 5 years later! Great drumming and video.
This backing track sounds like something you'd hear on the Nintendo Wii...
Gethyn Rosser-Stanford lol yes
Totally a golf game, zooming in and out on the green
😂😅
Pilot wings
The genre is called jazz fusion
Thumps up for that old Dimensions Ride!
cant tell you how much i loved this kit.
those toms.... 😍😍
I just bought one of these kits. To give you an idea of how good these drums are, I have 2 DW Performance Series kits, a DW Eco X kit, Yamaha oak custom. And I would not hesitate to gig these or record with them. Best bang for your buck with Stage Custom
Holy shit that kit sounds so freaking amazing.
Totally agreed. Gonna be my first kit ever, still saving some money for it. Gonna be so worth it jesus maria and jose.
My music teacher told us to get this since he said it was the best in the price range. First acoustic drumset I've ever had, been using electric for years. This is so much better. Judging from all these videos and reviews, I think it was a good decision.
@@memestream8929 it will not sound like that irl, can be but that has more controlled and mixed sound but its a great kit
FATTEST HUMAN of course. I already know how it sounds in real life. I’m well aware that it’s mixed and mastered in the video. Still really like the kit
I am a new drummer and did a ton of research on my first kit. Yamaha was not on my radar when I first started looking ("don't they make motorcycles?"), but I am so glad I took my time as this seems to be the exact sweet spot for upper-entry level kits. I will never have to worry about "maybe I should have gotten something a little better." Great drumming and I hope to be 1/10th this good some day. Cheers
Hey Radiogram. Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you found this video useful in forming an positive opinion of the Yamaha Stage Custom Birch kits.
The Yamaha sign is tuning forks. They started with music
Great playing and the most helpful demo of this kit out there. Thanks!
So, dude... do you ever tire of hearing how f-ing good you are? I love your vid's!
Beautiful playing! The groove, feel and restraint was amazing. So, so, tasteful! Just starting lessons and hope that with hard work, I can be one 10th the player you are. Much respect!
Good song and a great job on drums to the service of the song. So, I love the sound of that Yamaha.
this is like 70s grade percussion....the best. Keep comin back to the good ol stage custom birch, has somethin special
You are an exceptional drummer. The kit sounds phenomenal.
great recordings man, i'm gonna buy this kit now!
Switched from a Maple Custom Absolute to a Stage Custom. Never regretted it. Nice playing btw.
Best bang for the buck kit around, by a mile, IMHO. I love mine, and the steel snare too! Highly recommend. My 1983-90 Recording Customs can semi-retire now that I have this kit in-hand. And did I mention how awesome the steel snare is? ;) Yamaha aced it with this kit. I couldn't be happier.
They absolutely have a winner on thier hands with this kit. Best value and sound quality for the money
Just thanks for the playing and the info Darran! Thinking about buying an Yamaha Stage Custom and this info and "sound example" does help a lot; thanks!
Great video! Great drumming! You have your SCs sounding awesome. I have a very old birch SC set. It has a beautiful darkish green wood stained finish. And with the right heads and good tuning, these drums cannot be beaten for the price. In fact, I would not hesitate to play it at ANY gig. I didn't get the snare with it. I ended up getting a Pearl maple Free-Floater. That drum sounds amazing. I have had people try to buy it off of me. But I love my Yamaha CSs. Thanks, again, for the post! Cheers
Damn...That Yamaha kit sounds Awesome!!!
Sounds so good! in AirPods Pro especially. Love the track too.
Nice Drumming! I've been toying with the idea of getting a smaller kit with a 20" Bass (I'm getting OLD!). I absolutely love the sound of that bass drum! Thanks for posting this!!
My son got this kit in burgundy. Can’t believe how nice it sounds especially the bass drum….22”
Não é a tôa que a Yamaha é uma das bateras mais usadas em estúdio. Que som!
come on! those toms sound too good! it's all the recording process. but yes, it's a great set especially for the money.
Beautiful!!
Great video mate.
Sounding good!
I should have bought this instead of the PHX series.
Isn't the phx like 3000 bucks???
More!! Cheapest I’ve seen the PHX is 5,000
@@josuemontalvo221 8-9k now a days Drumcenter of portsmith has a video playing every yamaha kit in a row and they all sound so similar. Obviously the PHX is light years better looking.
GREAT demonstration. Thank you!!
This o should be included when comparing drums. Too often, people judge drums by the stock heads at guitar center. These SC birch sound totally pro, and cost a FRACTION of a high end kit. Well done!
Bought this kit as a knock around for my grands. Was amazed at the sound of them, especially recorded. Mine is in Cranberry red and was bought from a large music retailer that has annual drum competitions. Mine was the last kit they had and was a floor model used for the drum competition, which garnered extra $$ off, even though it was part of a Christmas sale. Plus, they replaced all the factory heads with Remos. Oh yeah, there was an added buyers incentive that gave me a Sabian bronze cymbal set as a freebee. Mine was a five piece (10, 12, 14, 20 +snare) but since then I had scoured Amazon and added on a 13 and 16. Still considering looking for an 18 floor tom and 22 kick.
Absolutely still smiling and considering this one of my best musical purchases ever.
No, the grands never get to play them.
The GC and MF websites both have all the Stage Custom add-on’s that one’s heart could desire! Snares, toms, floor toms, & bass drums in every available size AND finish. They may not necessarily all be in stock but they usually have more on the way!
Outstanding playing and mix 🔥 👌🏼
muy buena bateria
Great playing and sound! I have the same kit and it is a pleasure to record with it! I don't think there is anything better it its class out there!
Great playing on a very nice sounding drumset. Your Paiste cymbals really complement each other well. The 17 inch 2002 Thin Crash contrasts nicely in tone with the 2002 19 inch crash. Those original Paiste Twenty's do seem to differ a lot from the current line of Paiste Masters though.
Yeah, they sure do. I have added a 20" Masters Extra Thin Crash to my set up but I doubt it would have suited this track. Too dark and Mello.
I WANT THIS SET SO BAD! :intheseaoftears:
I’m getting one!
Love it!!!
please - everyone - wear headphones! do it!
Paiste makes him stand out from the rest high quality cymbals !!!!
Drums sound great should I buy y’all ????
Michael Martinez I did!
i almost ordered one of those entry level ludwig kits and it was on backorder for a month so i just decided to go with this stage custom instead. I think I'm making the right choice these sound great! I wasnt sure about the bass drum size but i went with the 20" too seems like it has good punch to it.
Yeah, you won't regret it. I love mine and they are such great value for the price.
You better play boy!
I saw this kit on Amazon and wanted to get it in that amber color and order another floor tom... They have them in 18in diameter x 16in depth. I bet that would sound amazing with the 16in it already comes with, this would be the first Yahama kit id ever own. Its either that or the Gretsch Catalina club birch rock series.. 13in tom, 16in and 18in floor tom, 24in bass.... My perfect setup at least.
Nicely tuned drums.
Thanks
great drummer!!
In a blind test people not would be able to tell this is not a kit costing 4x as much.
Good sound!!
god damn
Most likely the best kit for $. If ya gonna spend dw is the next best thing yamaha is right there with then I feel
So true
I was trying to convince myself that maple was the only way to go, then you just HAD to go post this... the price of this kit is amazing, and your play style and chops are immaculate. What mics were used on the rack toms?
+Erwin Vigilia Hey Erwin. Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you like this video. The toim mice are Sennheiser 421s
For maple you’ll have to spend more too
I am about to buy this kit but i am not sure if i could reach the same sound like you kit has.
Yours just sounds amazing dude.
Are you using some special equipment?
And by the way your skills are really good!
Keep it up man!
Fauler Sack He’s using good new heads (looks like Remo Emperors) on the toms and some Moongel. Also they are very well recorded. I worked in a music store for 16 years and played with these drums all the time. No joke, the Stage Custom Birch drums are a phenomenal set for the money. Easily one of the top bang for your bucks kits. Very well built
Wonderful sounding drum kit indeed! How did you tune your snare and bass drum? Are you using any muffling in the kick?
Agreed. This kit sounds good.
I played a Recording Custom kit for a few years and got a second kit so I didn't have to haul my recording custom kit back home in order to practice songs. Anyway I bought the new stage custom birch, now let me say the price difference is huge! The sound is not... I recorded with both kits on the same song and I could not tell a difference. I have since sold my recording customs and have two Stage Custom kits and money in my pocket. I have had no complaints in sound while playing live or recording. Now the finish is a bit better on the recording customs but the new stage customs are pro quality all the way. I'm sure that Yamaha sells more stage customs than any other model in there line. Use good mikes and save yourself a lot of money...
Jon Fiscel wow. I’m amazed. I’ve heard the Recording Customs on RUclips and they sounded amazing. :)
Do the stage customs resonate more than the RCs?? The rcs have all those big lugs.
nice sound!
Sounds fantastic. May I ask... what are the toms tuned to -- what pitch or frequency.
I have the exact same kit. I've put Evans G2 heads on the top and Evans EC resonant on the bottoms.
GREAT PLAYING AND SOUND!
not bad sir!
Wow!
What’s difference between beech and maple I don’t hear a difference just the toms tuning ? I know every one says maple is warmer but idk .
Looking at PDP Concept Maple and this Yamaha Stage Custom Birch...which would you recommend?
I was like this ordering a mapex …… but I decided for Yamaha custom !
Great sounding kit, Deciding on buying this kit or the DW Concept series?
Stage Custom for sure
Heard the 12” Tom can be a bit of a problem tuning wise and for seating the head in properly. Did you have any trouble with that? Great video by the way 👍
12" toms are usually the problem with kits in this price point. I think it's just build quality, though. The bearing edges aren't cut straight most of the time. It usually affects the 12" toms more than the rest.
@@RelMCProgram Luckily, no such issue with the Stage Customs, at least, no issues with mine. Bearing edges were nicely done, 12" tuned up like a champ.
To think I'm about to get this kit in this exact finish in 24/12/16/18 for... 1500 CAD. With a set of hardware thrown on top. AND the snare. Brand fucking new. There are great deals, but in 17 years of scouting them... WTF
The only thing I find (when I used to own and played yamaha stage custom kit) that the 10" tom is affected by the snare and have noticed in many clips of this drum kit on you tube. Not sure why as my current pearl reference 10" tom doesn't cause the snare to rattle.
Getting ready to purchase a new kit for recording, The Yamaha stage custom kit has caught my Ears and Eyes.. whats your thoughts??
The only kit you'll ever need
It might be a silly question but since this sounds amazing on my end, what sounds better to you this or your recording custom from 2012 you have? Obviously the rc is built better but man this sound is there it seems
Sounds great! How did you tune, muffle, and mic the bass drum?
So, I don't like a lot of internal muffling in my kick drums. I usually have a large towel or small blanket folded in a way that it just touches both the batter and resonant heads. I also don't like a large hole in the resonant head. Most of the time my microphone set up for recording is a Shure Beat 91 inside the kick resting on the blanket, a beta 52 or Audio D6 at the sound hole and some kind of ambient or sub mic in front of the kick.
Thanks so much for responding. Very helpful, thanks!@@darranmuller
Maybe someone has prieviously asked you?
I wonder if there is anything you prefer in the Stage Custom Birch kit over the regular Yamaha Recording?
Thanks for the inspirational drumming, btw.
Hi, what kind of imic is that on the kick drum?
Im just wondering how the hoop clamp on a 9000 series pedal is supposed to be used on the 20" bass if its off the ground. Is there some sort of hardware to facilitate it?
Hey Jim Jam. The new recording custom 20" bass drums come with a riser built into the hoop. The riser is designed fro all bass drum pedals to attach through the normal method and lifts the kick drum of the ground so the beater hits the drum right in the centre. You won't need to purchase any additional hardware.
Kit sounds great, but what cymbals are those?
Various Paiste’s.
How tall are you? Just to compare it to the kit. Also is that the 22’ bass drum?
I am 178cm tall. The kick is a 20'.
what resos are you using ???
Damn! I've been watching your videos for a few years now.
I never knew you were from Australia until I saw you commenting in some local FB drum groups. LOL
Love your playing!
Thank mate.
@@darranmuller Btw, I bought a used Yamaha Stage Custom Birch bop kit (complete with matching snare, stands and cymbals) from Gumtree for AU$500 during the pandemic. Insane value for money.
That's a great result. @@vincedelapena
Sorry for the millions of questions, but I own this exact shell combo and can't get the same sound!
Is the front bd head unported? (it looks like it still could be)
Did you put any muffling inside the bd or against the heads?
I get the best sound I can out of the toms by tuning both heads just past wrinkling, but they don't sound as good as this; how did you tune them? I use Remo pinstripes
Are they tuned or straight out the box
Hey! Have you checked the bearing Edge of the resonant side of the snare? I got the exact kit 5 months ago and just realized that it is completely flat on 2 sides of the bearing Edge, it doesn't have the angle all the way around, which cause the head to sit properly. 😕 Is it normal?
Hi Darran, I want to buy a stage custom set and I was wondering if I should get the 20” or the 22” bass. I was wondering if the 20” is capable live and in the studio or I’d need a 22”? I wanted to hear this from someone who has played both.
Hi Darran ! Im a chilean drummer and I have this kit... I just love it. But I really need some tuning advices ! I just signed with aquarian drumheads, what series would you recommend me? Greetings
+taffydonicke Hey Taffy. I just commented on the video about this. Good work on the aquarian signing. I'm not really familiar with their products but you should have some good results with your drums if you use a slightly thicker head on the top than the head on the bottom of the drums (Toms). Talk soon!
+Darran Muller Hi Darren. I was searching about comparision between Remo and Aquarian, I realized that Emperor is called Response 2 in Aquarian. I just cant wait to play with my new heads and find the right tune. Thanks for the advice. Hugs from Chile. Taffy
Where can I hear/download the full track? Love this tune, great playing
Hello sir and greetings from Greece. Very nice performance and your recording setup is amazing. I am an owner of a stage custom kit and I was wondering, what stand are you using for you splash cymbal attached on the toms holder? Thank you in advance!
Hi Chris. Thank you for your lovely words. I'm glad you liked this video. The attachment with the splash cymbal is a CH750 Cymbal Holder by Yamaha. you should be able to order on of these from any Yamaha dealer or online store.
Hey Darran, whats your favourite snare drum in the yamaha range? Would be used in a contemporary church. Thanks for your help.
wow fantatic sound from the kit, and great demo! you mentioned mics for the bass drum, what mics are you using for the toms snare and overheads please? thanks...
The tom mics are all Sennheiser MD421 by the looks of it. No Idea about the other ones.
Damn i rarely see a demo of drum kit i own, it sounds good. The only down side is the snare isnt suitable for high tuning. After 3 years playing high tuning on snare the lugs broken 1 by one until 5 of them lol
What splash are you using?
would you please tell me what mics you're using? thanks
Is that the 20" Kick? Emperor tom batters? Is this the same kit you did the Toto medley on?
yes
Is the PS3 on the kick drum a clear or coated? Do you tend to bury the beater? Also, what kind of beater are you using? Thanks so much!
Yeah, I bury the beater. The head is a clear PS3. Pretty sure I used the stock standard Yamaha felt beater on this session.
Dear Darran, can you tell me about the Microphones Models ?
Nice tight crack to the snare drum 🥁! None of that cheap ass 90’s style ring to it. Also, the toms are very punchy and powerful and also lack that cheap sounding over ring. An absolutely superb set for around 700 bucks!
Anyone throwing thumbs down is just jealous!
How do you tune those toms to sound so good? I have this kit and I can never get them sounding like that. They are either way to high or have disgusting overtones. I'm considering getting remos because I love how good it sounds in this video. I have g2 but it sounds like garbage at the pitch yours are at
Drew Godsell Get some Remo. Evans heads go dead after a while. Remo heads that are beat up usually have more tone than a slightly used Evans head. Remember the sound is in the heads.
I have to second that! Evans heads sound very good out of the box but an hour or 2 later, tone starts to fade away quickly. Check out Aquarian too, great stuff.
Simon Champagne I heard from my former drum shop owner that Evans DOES use inferior Taiwan made plastics. He had alot of industry connections and was privy to all the inside industry stuff. I guess when you sponser drum clinics for 30+ years when NO ONE was doing them, you make a few friends.