The point of using wheel cribs are so the car is elevated, but still resting its center of gravity on all 4 wheels. This is a must when you work on body panels, windows, anything structural. If you leave your car on jack stands doing this, you'll end up with gaps and screw up your geometry. It also feels safer to me, but that reason is subjective I guess.
These are necessary for replacing control arms and other bushing components. They must be torqued with the suspension weighted or the rubber will bind and tear.
You need a center support going down the center the whole way on the front and back sides going in the direction of the tire to force the weight into the ground. Without those supports too much stress is applied to the lumber.
I recommend sizing in 3.5" increments; 14" sq or 17.5" sq. Make the top layer a solid layer. Also, make them 6" tall that can also sit on a 6" base. Now you have two heights.
@RoadRoyals i haven't seen anyone using wheel cribs on the pinch welds. Is it possible? And could you do a video innovating something with the floor jacks pads or something alike? Great video Btw!
I would use a jack stand in an appropriate spot. But these stands are built specifically for work to be done other than in the wheel wells. (Chassis work, etc)
you just need 2 solid cut logs about a foot in diameter/ 1.5 feet tall and you put them on the end you’re working on. They aren’t heavy and stack nicely on top of each other when storing them. You should always have a pump jack under the car too with it holding about 10% of the load with 90% resting on the stands. People die every day working under cars and mechanical things fail
don't support weight by the end-grain. Meaning, don't use logs with the grain going vertically. The log can split, causing the load to fall. Always keep the grain going horizontal, and you'll have the safest, most stable support possible.
@@RoadRoyalsbro, I like your vid, but I gotta drop the rear subframe and repair a rusty 1976 trans am. Idk how to lift it that high at the frame instead of the wheels.
Please rename the title of this to alternative to jack stands. Just because you found a way to keep your car from falling on doesn’t mean everyone should just throw away their jack stands all precautions are good precautions.
Haha definitley, but if anyone takes the title that seriously then they shouldn't be working on vehicles in the first place. Common sense goes a long way!
With how much wood costs and all the material you would have been better off just going to harbor freight and getting some damn jack stands. Don't give me shit about the recall that was years ago and they fixed that.
That's just stupid. Not everything on the internet is true or should be attempted. This is your PSA from a mechanic of 20+ years. USE A JACK AND JACK STANDS, SAVE A LIFE
if you were a professional mechanic for 20 years, or if you had ever worked around setting up heavy machinery, rigging, or trucking, you would know very well what, "dunnage," is, and that wood stacked cross-grain is the absolute safest and most-stable way to support heavy weight. That's why dunnage is what's used by every professional rigger alive to support very heavy machinery, far heavier than a little car.
look up, "dunnage." Wooden supports are the safest, most stable support for heavy weight, and it's exactly what's used when storing or shipping very heavy things, such as large machinery. Almost nothing is safer for supporting weight, much safer than cheap jack stands.
Bro needs to work with a framer for a day You only need to mark one board and you can cut them all at once with a Circ saw Miter saw is for doing trim at volume when you need to be super precise
This car is stock body, and not very low. It was don't in increments front to back with jack stands. These stands are for long term use/storage. Car has been on them since this video was made. if this was a car that had an aggressive body kit and was slammed. It would be harder to get it up. Would just take a few extra steps.
It all comes down to the actuall quality of the build especially its welding when built...doesn't matter who's put the time into creating the thing if corners are cut in the manufacturing process
Jack stands simply aren't this wide. This will support a MUCH higher lateral force on the vehicle. Wheel cribs are fine if you don't smoke any crack before you build them.
Not only did they mention valid points but look at the room underneath. Jackstands aren't doing this much unless you get jacks for trucks. Then again with truck jacks you aren't getting the surface volume these are getting supporting the car.
Jack stands aren’t that expensive and take up at 500% less space 😂
Jack stands that high are SKETCHY tho
Just picked up a pair for of 3T for 20$ of marketplace
The point of using wheel cribs are so the car is elevated, but still resting its center of gravity on all 4 wheels. This is a must when you work on body panels, windows, anything structural. If you leave your car on jack stands doing this, you'll end up with gaps and screw up your geometry. It also feels safer to me, but that reason is subjective I guess.
These are necessary for replacing control arms and other bushing components. They must be torqued with the suspension weighted or the rubber will bind and tear.
Id trust these more. 4 of my buddies were found under vehicles due to faulty jackstands. That's why my trucks are all jacked up lol
You can always add jack stands to this set up for extra safety. Don't hurt nothing
Definitely, that's how mine is right now actually!
NICE!! Great way to support vehicle where it's most balanced..
Bro said "straight edge" on a plastic spirit level😂
You need a center support going down the center the whole way on the front and back sides going in the direction of the tire to force the weight into the ground. Without those supports too much stress is applied to the lumber.
I recommend sizing in 3.5" increments; 14" sq or 17.5" sq. Make the top layer a solid layer. Also, make them 6" tall that can also sit on a 6" base. Now you have two heights.
Great idea
I made mine out of square tubing, 1/2" inside 3/4" inside 1".
@@TheREALOC1972 they must be heavy!?
@@RoadRoyals not really
My old friend who is a journeyman tool and die. Super smart guy. He actually told me to do this and i love it. I trust it way more than stands
@@jb0915 there's a reason why these are used in the trucking industry so much
This is almost a psa on why we ALL should just go get jack stands 😂
I made mine out of popsicle sticks and Elmer's glue.
@@rickr530 I was going to do this, but figured it was a bit overkill
This is absolutely great! Gonna do it! Now why didn't I think of this? Been working on 🚗 since 1976!
@@antoniotutt4894 always something to learn in the garage!
How many 2x4s did you use
@RoadRoyals i haven't seen anyone using wheel cribs on the pinch welds. Is it possible? And could you do a video innovating something with the floor jacks pads or something alike? Great video Btw!
I would think these are great for storing a car for awhile. Plus you have room under for storing other items.
@@FFL61750 exactly. This car has been sitting on these still to this day. Gets the chassis high enough to even do a full underbody restoration
How have they held up?
Great! No issues. My car has been on them since this video was made.
@@RoadRoyals wow nice!
I used glue and screws on mine they are fantastic
Glue is a nice addition!
So how u doing wheels/tires/suspension work now?
@@aurorasama3091 what would I do wheels and suspension work with these. That's not what they're for.
How you get the car so highto put them under??
Patience and a good jack with lots of wood lol
What if the wheels has to be removed on work progression
I would use a jack stand in an appropriate spot. But these stands are built specifically for work to be done other than in the wheel wells. (Chassis work, etc)
you just need 2 solid cut logs about a foot in diameter/ 1.5 feet tall and you put them on the end you’re working on. They aren’t heavy and stack nicely on top of each other when storing them. You should always have a pump jack under the car too with it holding about 10% of the load with 90% resting on the stands. People die every day working under cars and mechanical things fail
don't support weight by the end-grain. Meaning, don't use logs with the grain going vertically. The log can split, causing the load to fall. Always keep the grain going horizontal, and you'll have the safest, most stable support possible.
@@soundmindtv2911 I agree. I'd cap the log with plywood or some 2x to take the load and I think that would work well then.
funny video but yeah this a must with jack stand for extra safety. Thanks for the idea!
How to get the tires off though? 😮
@@ChampWinJim you don't, they're meant to stay on!
That's going to be a Homer Simpson moment D oh' 😮🤕😵💫😵
I mean, it's been over a year and the car is still on them to this day from this video being recorded ...
@@RoadRoyalsbro, I like your vid, but I gotta drop the rear subframe and repair a rusty 1976 trans am. Idk how to lift it that high at the frame instead of the wheels.
@@richardnixon9324 I actually put jack stands on top of these to get the car even higher. It's getting it up that high safely that is the hard part!
Just use one 2x4 on it's end - much quicker.
How many 2x4 where used
Please rename the title of this to alternative to jack stands. Just because you found a way to keep your car from falling on doesn’t mean everyone should just throw away their jack stands all precautions are good precautions.
Haha definitley, but if anyone takes the title that seriously then they shouldn't be working on vehicles in the first place. Common sense goes a long way!
With how much wood costs and all the material you would have been better off just going to harbor freight and getting some damn jack stands. Don't give me shit about the recall that was years ago and they fixed that.
@@seanbutler2291 nobody should be putting a full car that high on shitty harbour freight jackstands for an extended period of time
If I ever built these they would be 4x4 or 2x4 redwood.
@@LotsOfPaypa good idea. Although 4x4 would be bulk and heavy, but if you're putting a larger vehicle on them like a truck that would be worth it.
That's just stupid. Not everything on the internet is true or should be attempted. This is your PSA from a mechanic of 20+ years. USE A JACK AND JACK STANDS, SAVE A LIFE
🤣 jack stands also fail and injury/kill people all the time
if you were a professional mechanic for 20 years, or if you had ever worked around setting up heavy machinery, rigging, or trucking, you would know very well what, "dunnage," is, and that wood stacked cross-grain is the absolute safest and most-stable way to support heavy weight. That's why dunnage is what's used by every professional rigger alive to support very heavy machinery, far heavier than a little car.
@@soundmindtv2911 this☝️
Cars fall off jackstands all the time if you read car forums.
@@soundmindtv2911 And house movers. they call it cribbing though.
How can I show off my SX… lol
Death Trap 😂
look up, "dunnage." Wooden supports are the safest, most stable support for heavy weight, and it's exactly what's used when storing or shipping very heavy things, such as large machinery. Almost nothing is safer for supporting weight, much safer than cheap jack stands.
Holy bad idea Batman
@@davidramey7186 very commonly used idea haha
@@RoadRoyals many bad ideas are commonly done.
@@davidramey7186 it's widely used in the trucking industry. It's been well proven to hold more than enough weight of just this tiny car.
Bro needs to work with a framer for a day
You only need to mark one board and you can cut them all at once with a Circ saw
Miter saw is for doing trim at volume when you need to be super precise
Spruce Goose
Total dislike for throwing and kicking tools and things around. Lame
Cool, now change a tire with one of those boxes
Why would I put a car on the wheel cribs to change a tire ...they're built to hold a tire.
Eh I just use cinder blocks
Please dont!
Ok how do you pull a wheel and use those woody death traps... Brake job not done... 😂😂😂 Jack stands rule!
Yea, but how did you get your lowered car up there without jacking up one end and driving the other end into the ground damaging the car??? 🤷♂️
This car is stock body, and not very low. It was don't in increments front to back with jack stands. These stands are for long term use/storage. Car has been on them since this video was made. if this was a car that had an aggressive body kit and was slammed. It would be harder to get it up. Would just take a few extra steps.
Have you ever thought that the people who created jacks and jack stands have thought of the safest way to create the right tools
It all comes down to the actuall quality of the build especially its welding when built...doesn't matter who's put the time into creating the thing if corners are cut in the manufacturing process
Jack stands simply aren't this wide. This will support a MUCH higher lateral force on the vehicle. Wheel cribs are fine if you don't smoke any crack before you build them.
This☝️
@@JosephHalder Or meth. Do you know local carnivals are full of carnies who smoke meth and crack then put the rides together lol
Not riding that
Not only did they mention valid points but look at the room underneath. Jackstands aren't doing this much unless you get jacks for trucks. Then again with truck jacks you aren't getting the surface volume these are getting supporting the car.