The plane door is like a plug in a socket, the pressure inside the plane forces it hard into the socket, sealing it. In order to open the door, it needs to be pulled forward and lifted up on a hinge mechanism. At full pressure it isn't possible to pull the door forward into the cabin and lift it, however at the lower cabin pressure on approaching landing or just after take off it is possible (though significant strength is required) to open the door
pyrion and sips dont know how good they have it, being invulnerable to the dating game, they need to cut lewis some slack and stop implying he's inept. they would find it just as hard
all I mean is, I've talked to friends in longterm relationships and they've always acted like it should be easy as hell, a piece of piss, just meet on apps and go on dates with strangers etc. then those same people become single and start trying the apps and they realise what its actually like. your idea of how things should be dissolves quite quick. until you try it, you really don't know the game.
this isn't to hate on pyrion and sips but more to make them aware that Lewis isn't inept, its actually just a weird game where everyone is sort of inept
Pyrion definitely didn't pay attention to the video about plane doors... the pilot didn't intentionally lie about being able to open the door, it was that he hadn't factored in the possibility of someone trying to open it at very low altitude which is the only time it is possible.
I fly a Boeing 777 for a living, if you’ve any plane questions I can do my best for you. The doors are plug doors, seated in a socket under cabin pressure. On the 777 the aircraft depressurizes on touch down, not before. If the differential pressure between inside and outside is small enough there’s nothing to stop the door being opened. Different aircraft will do it differently.
What pyrion described at the end of the podcast regarding a mind reading police state is basically the premise for the anime Psycho-Pass. I always knew he was an anime fan!
I don't understand Titanic tourism and the fascination in the ship itself - it was large, it sank, many perished. Do people get as excited about seeing an aircraft carrier or freight ship? (I would) I guess its just morbid curiosity or flexing to want to visit Titanic.
Lewis out here 50x more upset someone told a fib in the interest of safety than he was about that doctor who impregnated hundreds of people with his own batter and not their partners'.
Ok idk how to get this message to Lewis, or even if it will be useful in his case, but I also suffer from car sickness, and I made a huge discovery that helped me. I found that if I ate a meal before being driven down windy roads (especially one with protein), I wouldn't get car sick. This might be a huge help for you Lewis. Hope you see this!!
A weird glimpse into the past where we still thought the lads on the Titan could be rescued. Little did we know that at that point the knocking we heard might as well have been them practically instantly going from being okay to suddenly being in Wisconsin.
They probably know this already, but I'll say it anyway: Bad news: the people in the sub are mega-dead. "Good" news: Current evidence indicate that there was a catastrophic breach and implosion (probably from the glass, which was not graded for even 1/3 of their intended depth), which means the people on bord *might* have heard a pop or sudden cracking sound before they were instantly killed by either the pressure difference or the sheer force of the water. The controller seemingly survived though, if pictures are to be believed.
What pyrion was talking about with the A.I reading people's minds and governments "taking care" of people with any semblance of heinous or rebellious thoughts is literally the plot of Psycho Pass
Giving people wrong information to protect them will in the end come back to hurt them. Imagine someone gets an episode and goes to open the door near ground level (say take off), if everyone else in under the wrong impression that the door can't be opened at that time then they won't react correctly to the person having the episode/breakdown.
Pressure would be too much to open the door because pulling down the handle when it’s being pushed hard outwards would make it super hard to slide the locking mechanism out of the housing
when I go on summer vacations I only have carry on baggage. check in is just too expensive and you dont need much clothing for a week of summer vacations.
Prince of Wales and Repulse, at the time of their sinking known as Force Z, were sunk by land based bombers from the Imperial Japanese Navy. Most countries at the time, Japan included, did not have separate air forces. The army and navy both had air services, kinda (really) hated each other. The ship responsible for the most recent grave robbing is a Chinese vessel, but I heard the ship was seized in Vietnam or something
38:36 If they imploded (which is most likely) they were all turned to particles in milliseconds. As far as these things go, not the worst way to go. The dumbest maybe, but not the worst.
exactly!!! instant painless death. doesn’t sound that bad to me…(on the yog-pod simon mentioned being slowly eaten by toothless babies to be the worst way to die)
I would think the pressure outside the plane is higher than inside because the plane is moving at high speed, despite lower atmospheric pressure. am I wrong?
God, I have to go through Manchester airport not week, a place I try my best to avoid as it's my personally most hates Airport, but sadly this time round it was unavoidable for a transfer. So, hearing about that luggage just left on the floor, does not help my already worried mentality
One thing I've seen people do recently is getting an airtag/tile and putting it in your luggage, so that at least you know where it is at all times, and if they do lose it you can show them!
Love the podcast but must say i was itritated with how angry and incensed lewis got about youtube misinformation cosiderinh the ammount of misinformation lewis has admitted they spread in the podcast every week 😂
If you want to know more about the issues we have regarding getting AIs to behave like we want them to I recommend Robert Miles channel. He's been on Computerphile etc. Really clever guy who is good at expressing the very conrete issues data scientists have with getting AIs to do the task we want them to. No hype and doomsday or speculation, just very clearly communicated AI issues.
Sips. That timing on the "hows the online dating going" was absolutely brutal. Just massacred the poor boy. +1 EDIT: Knowing the bangs every 30m were faked and those fools were squished the moment they lost contact makes all of this all the funnier. It's suspected their total journey lasted less than 2 hours.
i really do not understand why anyone would give a shit about a bunch of rich people doing something incredibly dangerous and pointless and then dying. who gives a shit?
@@cameronwilsey9334that too. there was no chance of them ever surviving. thats what makes it even more tedious. its not like a plane crash were there could be some survivors, it was just a bunch of big-headed people who did something that was 100% doomed to fail.
There's a lot of different reasons to find it interesting, but I assume you're talking about an empathetic standpoint. Like, who gives a shit they died, not necessarily who gives a shit about the process or details involved. Apologies if my assumption is incorrect. I don't really need empathy to feel terrible for them. Most humans who die, really. Nearly every human alive is loved by somebody, even if they aren't aware. Is each individual loss not a tragedy? Think about how central your life seems. Everything is happening to and around you. And then one day that just ends. Sometimes it ends unexpectedly, sometimes unavoidable, and sometimes it happens for such a dumb, stupid reason that you want to denigrate the people. And sometimes you do. But it *is* a tragedy, and I for one give a shit. I'm told now they probably didn't know what was going on, and their death was so swift as to be basically instantaneous. But all I can imagine is being that 19 year old, just starting to get my shit together, going to college and building your life. And then your father gives you a gift, and you are sealed into a tin and sent underwater. Do you think he thought of his mother? Of friends, perhaps extended family as that door sealed? I do. I wonder if he thought, as the door sealed, whether he'd ever see them again. I doubt he actually thought he'd die. And now everything he is, everything he may one day have been, is gone. One bad decision. I realize you really weren't asking a question, so sorry for that, but I felt compelled to say that I care, and I'm sure many think similarly.
The only one it's reasonable to feel bad for is the 18? year old who didn't even want to be on it. Especially given they all imploded and had one of the easiest deaths imaginable.
Maybe I'm just a moron, but if I was offered a free trip on the OceanGate sub, I probably would have taken it. The sub had made several successful dives, and while it did look pretty jank inside, being able to reach the depths of the Titanic is such an exceptional thing that my first thought would have been they prioritized function over form. Not to mention that these were the first people to ever die on a dive to the Titanic. Again, maybe I'm just exceptionally stupid, but I feel like too many people acting superior with their hindsight.
I would literally pay ALOT of money to see Pyrion attempt to try and get even a date. He would fail and be about 10,000x more laughable and clueless then Lewis.
The truth is basically always better than a lie. There are very rare exceptions, but I can't imagine that any of them have to do with safety. People constantly do stupid things to try to prove they can't be done. If you don't want people to do a dangerous thing, make a huge deal about how dangerous it is. Don't tell them that nothing will happen, because that tells them it's safe to try. Besides, it's incredibly arrogant to think you're the one who gets to decide which truth should be hidden. I see that someone said the guy didn't lie, he just hadn't considered this particular possibility, which sounds reasonable. But people lie about things like this all the time, and I feel as strongly as Lewis does. Accurate information is one of the most important and powerful things in the world. We shouldn't be gatekeeping it.
Being so unfit I can’t walk anywhere is honestly terrifying to me I have some health problems that have taken me from no loss competition fighter to I go for a walk for a few hours every night if I ever couldn’t do the odd 12 hour hike I wouldn’t know what to do
LEWIS IS RIGHT, the truth is always the most important thing If some idiot wants to fling themselves out of the plane at 10000m then be my guest; make sure you keep your seatbelts on and your safe
I think that the bigger problem is that it endangers everyone around them. Wasn't there a story semi-recently about a woman whose window popped out, and the pressure of the plane crushed her out through the window, despite her wearing her seatbelt? Either way, it seems like a pretty unimportant lie to me.
@@thefinal9923 it comes down to if people report the comment but it shouldn’t be possible to get banned for most things especially when I’ve spent money on this account
Pyrion, the OceanGate company was a science research company using billionaires for extra funding. The Titanic is actually a unique ocean biome, with its own unique rust eating bacteria: Halomonas titanicae. They were scientists and explorers, not rich tourism junkies
I dunno about the bacteria, but the part about OceanGate seems mighty questionable. According to all the most recent reporting, the CEO was a negligent, arrogant ass who consistently undermined, rejected and demeaned legitimate safety concerns on the basis of creating a new business opportunity. When it imploded, there was one legitimate explorer on board (Paul-Henri Nargeolet) and he arguably knew better but was in the "eh, fuck it" stage of his life it seems. The other passengers, oh, sorry "mission specialists" for legal reasons, were aforementioned dickhead CEO Stockton Rush, two business men, and the 19 year old son of one of the latter, who was terrified of the thing, but did it for his dad. If there's any tragedy here, it's that poor kid who turns out to have been the most sensible of them. At this point it seems clear that they were using a deeply flawed vessel, utterly unfit for task, and willfully endangered everyone who ever got in the thing thru total disregard for proper engineering and safety protocols. Pyrion got it just right... *hubris* got all of them killed. If folks want to do science down around the Titanic, great! Do it in a properly designed vessel, certified for the depth, made by engineers who give a fuck, not a shoddy deathtrap built by some "MOVE FAST AND BREAK THINGS! DISRUPT OLD FASHIONED NOTIONS OF SAFETY!" business-prick.
@@KerryBenton explorers take risks, as is the spirit of exploration. News media has been particularly hyperbolic about the whole thing, don't you think? They tend to be in times like this. It's quite easy to talk about a man after he's gone. I'm not here to defend the man at all I'm just suggesting other possibilities. I think the characterization he was purely a rich asshole is probably a bit reductive, and it's really easy to call someone a stupid asshole _after_ they blow up in a submersible. I don't disagree that hubris led to their demise, as will end many other fates. I just wanted to point out that they were at least down there doing science and literally only there for the sake of science. If they could have funded the project more easily without rich people they would have I'm sure they would have. I personally say, a cruise is too much a water prison for me, heaven forbid going under the water Anyway, cheers!
The Celebrity Dating App is called Raya. I still hold out hope that Lew Lew finds a nice girl without using the apps. I have had friends who were successful with Raya, but nothing long term.
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I will be devastated if these ever stop coming out, plz continue forever thanks
I would be super sad. I been watching since the announced it.
The plane door is like a plug in a socket, the pressure inside the plane forces it hard into the socket, sealing it. In order to open the door, it needs to be pulled forward and lifted up on a hinge mechanism. At full pressure it isn't possible to pull the door forward into the cabin and lift it, however at the lower cabin pressure on approaching landing or just after take off it is possible (though significant strength is required) to open the door
I’d say closer to a drain plug in a sink or bath tub but yes this is why the door can’t open.
pyrion and sips dont know how good they have it, being invulnerable to the dating game, they need to cut lewis some slack and stop implying he's inept. they would find it just as hard
very true
I mean they have made this exact point before. They totally would find it just as hard and are very thankful for their situations
all I mean is, I've talked to friends in longterm relationships and they've always acted like it should be easy as hell, a piece of piss, just meet on apps and go on dates with strangers etc. then those same people become single and start trying the apps and they realise what its actually like. your idea of how things should be dissolves quite quick. until you try it, you really don't know the game.
this isn't to hate on pyrion and sips but more to make them aware that Lewis isn't inept, its actually just a weird game where everyone is sort of inept
Pyrion definitely didn't pay attention to the video about plane doors... the pilot didn't intentionally lie about being able to open the door, it was that he hadn't factored in the possibility of someone trying to open it at very low altitude which is the only time it is possible.
I fly a Boeing 777 for a living, if you’ve any plane questions I can do my best for you. The doors are plug doors, seated in a socket under cabin pressure. On the 777 the aircraft depressurizes on touch down, not before. If the differential pressure between inside and outside is small enough there’s nothing to stop the door being opened. Different aircraft will do it differently.
53:05 "They ever use Mahogany to make a boat?"
Hmm, a boat with... Mahogany doors?
They didn’t run out of air. They didn’t run out of food/water. They are jelly now. RIP.
What pyrion described at the end of the podcast regarding a mind reading police state is basically the premise for the anime Psycho-Pass. I always knew he was an anime fan!
I don't understand Titanic tourism and the fascination in the ship itself - it was large, it sank, many perished.
Do people get as excited about seeing an aircraft carrier or freight ship? (I would)
I guess its just morbid curiosity or flexing to want to visit Titanic.
As Scott Manley said about the passengers on the Titan: At those pressures the people stopped being biology and became physics.
IM SO GOOGLEABLE!
Lewis out here 50x more upset someone told a fib in the interest of safety than he was about that doctor who impregnated hundreds of people with his own batter and not their partners'.
I was rewatching Shadow of Israphel the other day where they made the exact same joke about the plural of compasses in season 1. I am in shock
Ok idk how to get this message to Lewis, or even if it will be useful in his case, but I also suffer from car sickness, and I made a huge discovery that helped me.
I found that if I ate a meal before being driven down windy roads (especially one with protein), I wouldn't get car sick. This might be a huge help for you Lewis. Hope you see this!!
A weird glimpse into the past where we still thought the lads on the Titan could be rescued. Little did we know that at that point the knocking we heard might as well have been them practically instantly going from being okay to suddenly being in Wisconsin.
The next episode is definitely going to be interesting.
Opening the plane door seems like how opening a soda can would be
They probably know this already, but I'll say it anyway:
Bad news: the people in the sub are mega-dead.
"Good" news: Current evidence indicate that there was a catastrophic breach and implosion (probably from the glass, which was not graded for even 1/3 of their intended depth), which means the people on bord *might* have heard a pop or sudden cracking sound before they were instantly killed by either the pressure difference or the sheer force of the water. The controller seemingly survived though, if pictures are to be believed.
What pyrion was talking about with the A.I reading people's minds and governments "taking care" of people with any semblance of heinous or rebellious thoughts is literally the plot of Psycho Pass
I was on a plane and the instructions on the emergency door say you have to pull it inwards, then turn it sideways and throw it out of the plane
Triforce don't lie to us. They are just confidently incorrect. Lie implies intent.
Giving people wrong information to protect them will in the end come back to hurt them. Imagine someone gets an episode and goes to open the door near ground level (say take off), if everyone else in under the wrong impression that the door can't be opened at that time then they won't react correctly to the person having the episode/breakdown.
You should always look both ways before crossing a street because a goblin might bite your leg
Airliners never fly with an empty hold. They carry cargo down there as it makes them more money than passengers do.
Pressure would be too much to open the door because pulling down the handle when it’s being pushed hard outwards would make it super hard to slide the locking mechanism out of the housing
Think of trying to open a bolt lock while someone is pushing the door.
when I go on summer vacations I only have carry on baggage. check in is just too expensive and you dont need much clothing for a week of summer vacations.
I guess we’ll never know what the really bad thing that Lewis said last week was
Wait! Hold ON HOLD ON (feel so bad for lewis for having to put up w this shit)
Prince of Wales and Repulse, at the time of their sinking known as Force Z, were sunk by land based bombers from the Imperial Japanese Navy. Most countries at the time, Japan included, did not have separate air forces. The army and navy both had air services, kinda (really) hated each other. The ship responsible for the most recent grave robbing is a Chinese vessel, but I heard the ship was seized in Vietnam or something
38:36 If they imploded (which is most likely) they were all turned to particles in milliseconds. As far as these things go, not the worst way to go. The dumbest maybe, but not the worst.
exactly!!! instant painless death. doesn’t sound that bad to me…(on the yog-pod simon mentioned being slowly eaten by toothless babies to be the worst way to die)
3:23
Yep it's called unbirthing, definitely not one of the kinks I get but I've seen the tag floating around on a few sites.
The pressure is pushing the latch of the door into the fuselage of the plane so just turning the handle is extremely dificult
A sane person would use the drop out window because the made it so the rear door won’t open in flight after DB Cooper
I would think the pressure outside the plane is higher than inside because the plane is moving at high speed, despite lower atmospheric pressure. am I wrong?
Very funny as always lads. Hail from north Dakota
19:30 you can still check your bag right threw but I fly from state to state in USA. Sips what airport is trolling you?
Lewis being mad at a pilot saying you can't open a door mid-flight is a damn weird take....
God, I have to go through Manchester airport not week, a place I try my best to avoid as it's my personally most hates Airport, but sadly this time round it was unavoidable for a transfer. So, hearing about that luggage just left on the floor, does not help my already worried mentality
Good luck, im connecting from Amsterdam to nevis airforce base in September. Kinda worried ngl 💀
One thing I've seen people do recently is getting an airtag/tile and putting it in your luggage, so that at least you know where it is at all times, and if they do lose it you can show them!
@@armchairphilosopher6880 Ha ha, thanks :D
OO, exciting, well best of luck to you
@@Diwalia Good idea, shame I don't have an airtag or apple device, thanks though. Should be fine though, you know, I do travel alot
Not gonna lie I saw the thumbnail and thought "wonder what they're talking about?"
Can't BELIEVE you'd lie to me
This was a really good episode and i’m only halfway through
The plane door lie thing is weeird. What person is looking up that youtube who wants to open those doors.
Pilot says you cant open door > People try to open it caue its not possible anyway.
Sips mentioned mahogany and then I thought _mahogany doors._ =/
Love the podcast but must say i was itritated with how angry and incensed lewis got about youtube misinformation cosiderinh the ammount of misinformation lewis has admitted they spread in the podcast every week 😂
Yes but their misinformation is unintentional his point was he gets angry when people spread misinformation for an agenda even a benevolent one.
The Apple product instantly broke with a tiny little bit of pressure, sounds like a legit product, as a knock off would have survived that.
If you want to know more about the issues we have regarding getting AIs to behave like we want them to I recommend Robert Miles channel. He's been on Computerphile etc. Really clever guy who is good at expressing the very conrete issues data scientists have with getting AIs to do the task we want them to.
No hype and doomsday or speculation, just very clearly communicated AI issues.
"Schindler's lift" 😆
So little attention given to the plural of compass
Lewis you know you can repair the screen for like 200€
Lewis evolving into a hikikomori.
By definition those don't leave their house, there's nothing wrong with Lewis except his priorities for taking time off.
well this aged poorly
Sips. That timing on the "hows the online dating going" was absolutely brutal. Just massacred the poor boy. +1
EDIT: Knowing the bangs every 30m were faked and those fools were squished the moment they lost contact makes all of this all the funnier. It's suspected their total journey lasted less than 2 hours.
Dunno if they were faked as much as just misread
Wait who faked the banging? Did the search and rescue people just lie about it?
@@fawn2911 There were fake 'leaked' audio recordings of the banging, I think he might be getting mixed up.
Fuck yeah
WHAT WAS THE STUPID THING THAT LEWIS SAID !?!?!?
i really do not understand why anyone would give a shit about a bunch of rich people doing something incredibly dangerous and pointless and then dying. who gives a shit?
Especially when it was instantly a foregone conclusion
@@cameronwilsey9334that too. there was no chance of them ever surviving. thats what makes it even more tedious. its not like a plane crash were there could be some survivors, it was just a bunch of big-headed people who did something that was 100% doomed to fail.
There's a lot of different reasons to find it interesting, but I assume you're talking about an empathetic standpoint. Like, who gives a shit they died, not necessarily who gives a shit about the process or details involved. Apologies if my assumption is incorrect.
I don't really need empathy to feel terrible for them. Most humans who die, really. Nearly every human alive is loved by somebody, even if they aren't aware. Is each individual loss not a tragedy? Think about how central your life seems. Everything is happening to and around you. And then one day that just ends. Sometimes it ends unexpectedly, sometimes unavoidable, and sometimes it happens for such a dumb, stupid reason that you want to denigrate the people. And sometimes you do.
But it *is* a tragedy, and I for one give a shit. I'm told now they probably didn't know what was going on, and their death was so swift as to be basically instantaneous. But all I can imagine is being that 19 year old, just starting to get my shit together, going to college and building your life. And then your father gives you a gift, and you are sealed into a tin and sent underwater. Do you think he thought of his mother? Of friends, perhaps extended family as that door sealed? I do. I wonder if he thought, as the door sealed, whether he'd ever see them again. I doubt he actually thought he'd die. And now everything he is, everything he may one day have been, is gone. One bad decision.
I realize you really weren't asking a question, so sorry for that, but I felt compelled to say that I care, and I'm sure many think similarly.
The only one it's reasonable to feel bad for is the 18? year old who didn't even want to be on it. Especially given they all imploded and had one of the easiest deaths imaginable.
I pity the teenager but that's it
Lewis would literally not have survived in any other era of history
Try a match maker Lew.
Maybe I'm just a moron, but if I was offered a free trip on the OceanGate sub, I probably would have taken it. The sub had made several successful dives, and while it did look pretty jank inside, being able to reach the depths of the Titanic is such an exceptional thing that my first thought would have been they prioritized function over form. Not to mention that these were the first people to ever die on a dive to the Titanic. Again, maybe I'm just exceptionally stupid, but I feel like too many people acting superior with their hindsight.
Lol
the plural for compass killed me
When 'we' released the trolly problem? Never knew lewis was a scientist.
I would literally pay ALOT of money to see Pyrion attempt to try and get even a date. He would fail and be about 10,000x more laughable and clueless then Lewis.
The truth is basically always better than a lie. There are very rare exceptions, but I can't imagine that any of them have to do with safety. People constantly do stupid things to try to prove they can't be done. If you don't want people to do a dangerous thing, make a huge deal about how dangerous it is. Don't tell them that nothing will happen, because that tells them it's safe to try. Besides, it's incredibly arrogant to think you're the one who gets to decide which truth should be hidden.
I see that someone said the guy didn't lie, he just hadn't considered this particular possibility, which sounds reasonable. But people lie about things like this all the time, and I feel as strongly as Lewis does. Accurate information is one of the most important and powerful things in the world. We shouldn't be gatekeeping it.
Being so unfit I can’t walk anywhere is honestly terrifying to me I have some health problems that have taken me from no loss competition fighter to I go for a walk for a few hours every night if I ever couldn’t do the odd 12 hour hike I wouldn’t know what to do
well, I'm never listening to this podcast again :/
How come
@@jada7109 I believe it was sarcasm
@@jada7109 they lied to me
Just wait til you see the title next week
LEWIS IS RIGHT, the truth is always the most important thing
If some idiot wants to fling themselves out of the plane at 10000m then be my guest; make sure you keep your seatbelts on and your safe
I think that the bigger problem is that it endangers everyone around them. Wasn't there a story semi-recently about a woman whose window popped out, and the pressure of the plane crushed her out through the window, despite her wearing her seatbelt?
Either way, it seems like a pretty unimportant lie to me.
@@Xanthanariumjesus!😂😂😂 that is f-ing disgusting
Not worth the risk just for some truth seeking idealism. What is the point in saying 'by the way guys you can jump off this thing whenever you want!'
@@mooncat7009 she survived
I got banned for 24 hours for saying “myass” to on RUclips
I don't get this. I've said some truly rude, very explicitly rude things to people on here. I use the c word like it's the word "a"
@@thefinal9923 it comes down to if people report the comment but it shouldn’t be possible to get banned for most things especially when I’ve spent money on this account
what terribly stupid thing did lewis say
If i could buy Lewis a wife. I would
Pyrion, the OceanGate company was a science research company using billionaires for extra funding. The Titanic is actually a unique ocean biome, with its own unique rust eating bacteria: Halomonas titanicae. They were scientists and explorers, not rich tourism junkies
I dunno about the bacteria, but the part about OceanGate seems mighty questionable. According to all the most recent reporting, the CEO was a negligent, arrogant ass who consistently undermined, rejected and demeaned legitimate safety concerns on the basis of creating a new business opportunity. When it imploded, there was one legitimate explorer on board (Paul-Henri Nargeolet) and he arguably knew better but was in the "eh, fuck it" stage of his life it seems. The other passengers, oh, sorry "mission specialists" for legal reasons, were aforementioned dickhead CEO Stockton Rush, two business men, and the 19 year old son of one of the latter, who was terrified of the thing, but did it for his dad. If there's any tragedy here, it's that poor kid who turns out to have been the most sensible of them.
At this point it seems clear that they were using a deeply flawed vessel, utterly unfit for task, and willfully endangered everyone who ever got in the thing thru total disregard for proper engineering and safety protocols. Pyrion got it just right... *hubris* got all of them killed.
If folks want to do science down around the Titanic, great! Do it in a properly designed vessel, certified for the depth, made by engineers who give a fuck, not a shoddy deathtrap built by some "MOVE FAST AND BREAK THINGS! DISRUPT OLD FASHIONED NOTIONS OF SAFETY!" business-prick.
@@KerryBenton explorers take risks, as is the spirit of exploration. News media has been particularly hyperbolic about the whole thing, don't you think? They tend to be in times like this. It's quite easy to talk about a man after he's gone. I'm not here to defend the man at all I'm just suggesting other possibilities. I think the characterization he was purely a rich asshole is probably a bit reductive, and it's really easy to call someone a stupid asshole _after_ they blow up in a submersible.
I don't disagree that hubris led to their demise, as will end many other fates. I just wanted to point out that they were at least down there doing science and literally only there for the sake of science. If they could have funded the project more easily without rich people they would have I'm sure they would have.
I personally say, a cruise is too much a water prison for me, heaven forbid going under the water
Anyway, cheers!
The Celebrity Dating App is called Raya. I still hold out hope that Lew Lew finds a nice girl without using the apps. I have had friends who were successful with Raya, but nothing long term.