Professional Creationist RESPONDS to my Tomkins Debunk (kinda)

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  • @7inrain
    @7inrain Год назад +130

    @35:48 Erika, your comment is still there. Sometimes YT doesn't show all comments in a discussion. In this case it helps to sort comments by "Newest first" and then scroll down to the thread in question.

    • @SamyasaSwi
      @SamyasaSwi Год назад +15

      And I've also had my comments removed because RUclips flagged it for one reason or another. After editing it sightly, they remained... It's not always malicious intent by the channel owner

    • @Zero-ei8jn
      @Zero-ei8jn Год назад +9

      ​@SamyasaSwi I've had comments that have been removed or don't show up to anyone else for reasons I cannot for the life of me figure out. I suppose there's some algorithm or program that flags things incorrectly at times. It's annoying if I take the time to think thru & write a thoughtful comment.

    • @SamyasaSwi
      @SamyasaSwi Год назад +6

      @@Zero-ei8jn yeah same, it's annoying. I tend to ctrl+c the entire thing just in case something like that happens

    • @globalcoupledances
      @globalcoupledances Год назад +2

      I can confirm the "Newest first" method

    • @DG-iw3yw
      @DG-iw3yw Год назад +1

      @SamyasaSwi christians sometimes spam report things, i know i report their comments when they mindlessly copy and paste bible verses on videos about dinosaurs and paleantology

  • @BenjaminSteber
    @BenjaminSteber Год назад +620

    Creationists treat Erika like a final boss. Erika treats creationists like side quests.

    • @petezipardi4022
      @petezipardi4022 Год назад +35

      Give yourself a special treat. You deserve it.

    • @chrishollandsworth6700
      @chrishollandsworth6700 Год назад +22

      Well said, bro! I laughed.

    • @FerrariKing
      @FerrariKing Год назад +28

      A final boss that keeps slapping them down without any effort.

    • @muskyoxes
      @muskyoxes Год назад +27

      I don't know many boss fights where the objective is to stab at one of the feet and run away and hide

    • @andchimeras
      @andchimeras Год назад +14

      Repetitive fetch quests with the same finishing move most of the time: haha! I cast Heat Problem!

  • @iknownothingwillingtolearn
    @iknownothingwillingtolearn Год назад +426

    Creationist: We want to be taken serious. We want the same rights. Schools must teach our thoughts.
    Science: Oke let's peer review your work.
    Creationist: Boohoo they check our findings and can't produce the same results.

    • @Sage-Thyme
      @Sage-Thyme Год назад +40

      But but but our presuppositions... 😢😢😢

    • @asagoldsmith3328
      @asagoldsmith3328 Год назад

      Clearly the scientists are just not believing hard enough to reproduce the results

    • @keenirr5332
      @keenirr5332 Год назад +32

      "Stop fact-checking my work!"
      :D

    • @zimniok7602
      @zimniok7602 Год назад +11

      It's like that photo of larpers with "we demand to be taken seriously" sign

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      It seems to me that a Christian like myself is presented with major problems, but they’re nothing like the problems of the atheist.
      We have only to see a few letters of the alphabet spelling our name in the sand to recognize at once the work of an intelligent agent. How much more likely, then is the existence of an intelligent Creator behind human DNA, the colossal biological database that contains no fewer than 3.5 billion "letters the longest "word" yet discovered?"

  • @Nick-Nasti
    @Nick-Nasti Год назад +484

    Imagine being a CEO of a creationist org, paid to only arrive at one answer and expected to be taken as objective.

    • @Timbo6669
      @Timbo6669 Год назад +39

      I can’t….that’s the scary thing. How can people be so intellectually dishonest and still be in charge of a non profit organisation? In fact, I have never been able to wrap my head around YEC’s in general.

    • @antondovydaitis2261
      @antondovydaitis2261 Год назад +11

      It's not so much for the money, although that helps.
      Once you give souls primacy over bodies, then salvation takes priority over any other considerations.
      It's so much easier to help souls than people.

    • @AfonsoCL
      @AfonsoCL Год назад +14

      @@antondovydaitis2261 It's about the money.

    • @jonathanj8303
      @jonathanj8303 Год назад +10

      ​@@Timbo6669As another poster said, it's about the money. And to be honest, that something that applies to an hideous percentage of non-profits, of whatever claimed political or other colour. They might not be allowed to make a profit, but they are allowed to pay fat salaries, and those often massively eclipses the amount that actually goes to the 'cause'. YEO 'research' is just a particularly aggregious example.

    • @Timbo6669
      @Timbo6669 Год назад +12

      @@jonathanj8303 So, you’re saying that they don’t actually believe in what they preach? It’s solely for the money?
      See, I couldn’t sleep if I had cognitive dissonance to that level.

  • @Soapy-chan
    @Soapy-chan Год назад +491

    When someone says "They made mistakes but we won't go through them", you know that they are deliberately lying.

    • @Fade2GrayOG
      @Fade2GrayOG Год назад +70

      I'm sure we're all aware there were a number of flaws in this comment. It's best that we all just move on and focus on the things that actually matter.

    • @nathanielgrey4091
      @nathanielgrey4091 Год назад +36

      ​@@Fade2GrayOGOh, you almost got me with that

    • @Soapy-chan
      @Soapy-chan Год назад +7

      @@Fade2GrayOG I'm not sure what you are trying to say

    • @lightningrodofh8509
      @lightningrodofh8509 Год назад +11

      @@Soapy-chan lol Read what you wrote, then read what they wrote.

    • @EdwardHowton
      @EdwardHowton Год назад +30

      When a professional creationist _exists_ you know that they're deliberately lying. Gotta lie to flerf. I mean creationist.

  • @dethspud
    @dethspud Год назад +113

    YEC "geneticist": "take me seriously"
    Erika: OK.
    YEC: "Why is she picking on me?!"
    Me: 😂😂😂😂

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Год назад +13

      It basically sums up YEC "scientists" in a nutshell.
      They whine that nobody accepts their research because they are too lazy to actually peer review their research and actually address the flaws in their methodology, and rather than doing that, they whine that they aren't just accepted.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад +3

      ​@@shanewilson7994but the complaint was never sincere in the first place

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 Год назад +196

    God forbid you use a… control group. How dare you do science correctly

    • @mjjoe76
      @mjjoe76 Год назад +29

      “God forbid” is a very appropriate phrase here.

    • @SleepyMatt-zzz
      @SleepyMatt-zzz Год назад +18

      Their god would forbid it 😂

    • @muskyoxes
      @muskyoxes Год назад +9

      Even that description sounds like a deeper thought than it is. If you make a method, you TRY IT ON STUFF. "Let me make sure this works on really basic data" is an instinctive thought for any random non-PhD computer nerd

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Год назад +4

      YECs hate that 9th commandment

    • @madamsloth
      @madamsloth Год назад

      ​@@mjjoe76😂

  • @daviddivad777
    @daviddivad777 Год назад +108

    Erika wearing that baseball cap is an ominous sign that she will be in wrecking-mode

    • @cuzned1375
      @cuzned1375 Год назад +17

      It’s KLOBBERIN’ TIME!!
      (I very cleverly spelled that with a K, ‘cause Erika.)

    • @rimbusjift7575
      @rimbusjift7575 Год назад +7

      Nah, she's pitching tonight.
      Got a sick cutter.

    • @WolfA4
      @WolfA4 Год назад +6

      Erika in an interview: "I take my hat and I turn it around and it's like a switch that goes on, and when the switch goes on I feel like another person... I feel like a truck, a machine."

    • @rimbusjift7575
      @rimbusjift7575 Год назад +5

      @@WolfA4
      You're confusing her with Stallone again.

    • @cuzned1375
      @cuzned1375 Год назад +5

      @@WolfA4 Awwww SHIT! Erika ‘bout to go over the top!

  • @stefanlaskowski6660
    @stefanlaskowski6660 Год назад +204

    Erika has never been mean to Creationists. She has not even once used a flamethrower or thumbscrews even when fully warranted. 😁

    • @lightningrodofh8509
      @lightningrodofh8509 Год назад +35

      And no lions? She's being down right diplomatic.

    • @rembrandt972ify
      @rembrandt972ify Год назад +9

      I found an October 2022 invoice from a Jefferson City firm called Thumbscrews R Us. It seems that a Ms. Gibbon buys thumbscrews by the boxcar load. Never mind what I was doing in Erika's garbage containers. 🙄

    • @larryscarr3897
      @larryscarr3897 Год назад +5

      I have a battle axe, I'll give it to her..

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Год назад +5

      Thumbscrews, how … quaint. The rack! And the comfy chair!

  • @panqueque445
    @panqueque445 Год назад +39

    "She makes a lot of mistakes"
    "Oh yeah, which ones?"
    "She just makes a lot of mistakes, ok? Trust me bro"

    • @manusiabumi7673
      @manusiabumi7673 Год назад +5

      Cut him some slack, he's just emulating his god in making empty assertions

  • @johnbaustian5180
    @johnbaustian5180 Год назад +27

    To quote President Harry Truman, "I don't give them hell. I just tell the truth about them, and they think it’s hell.”

  • @RedPandaSquadron
    @RedPandaSquadron Год назад +231

    As someone who has spent a lot of time in academia and have encountered the whole gamut of lecturers, I want to say you are one of the most impressive educators I've seen.
    Clear, concise, entertaining, humble, etc.
    Keep up the awesome work, and I do hope you continue passing on your knowledge to others, cause you are damn good at it

    • @ceciliaflwrs
      @ceciliaflwrs Год назад +21

      I agree with you, Erika is awesome.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Год назад +6

      ... and she can probably tell a story about a patient dying due to repeated failure to diagnose the actual problem without getting into a giggling fit while telling it, which is more than could be said for one Professor I remember from my time at university. That guy was kind of creepy.

    • @RolfStones
      @RolfStones Год назад +5

      I was very lucky with my lecturers in my bachelor, not so much with my masters on a different university.

    • @Where_is_Waldo
      @Where_is_Waldo Год назад +6

      I can't tell you how many times I and others have made essentially the same comment.

    • @vforwombat9915
      @vforwombat9915 Год назад

      "Clear, concise,"
      you lost me there.
      i like her content, she's smart, can ramble things off the cuff that i would need massive notes to do, dogged in her methods, funny at times, but one thing she is NOT is concise.
      a 44 minute video to her is short.
      before this video i had been pondering what she'd be like as a teacher.
      i'd think she could do the whole lecture wout notes, but then she'd need MASSIVE preparation to edit her ideas down to the length of a lecture.

  • @luthientinuviel3883
    @luthientinuviel3883 Год назад +39

    I like the mental image of Carter and Tomkins cowering under the mallet of a very threatening blue gibbon

  • @brianzulauf2974
    @brianzulauf2974 Год назад +34

    I can't get over the irony of believing in an eternal God and then saying the earth is younger than the pyramids.

  • @stormburn1
    @stormburn1 Год назад +146

    5:34 I feel like you could absolutely put "Well-known villain in young Earth creationist circles" on your CV. Would definitely attract a hiring manager's attention and be a good conversation point during an interview. If nothing else it would align with the principle of fun.

    • @keenirr5332
      @keenirr5332 Год назад +4

      Given her earlier statement of how most scientists go "Wait, you still exist?" when faced with a YEC, there might be surprise or shock at someone reading that on her CV. It'd be cool, though, yeah.

  • @chriscasperson5927
    @chriscasperson5927 Год назад +14

    "Uh-oh! It's a mean Gutsick Gibbon video!"
    _pulls up chair_
    Please continue.

  • @some-other-time
    @some-other-time Год назад +89

    I actually did watch the "long" video (although at 1.25 speed), and despite my complete lack of genetics background (though I do have a math degree), you made it not only clear, but interesting enough for me to stay with it and feel like I understood a good bit of it by the end.
    I have to admit to being childishly amused that they are being debunked by a (brilliant) young woman -- that's got to hurt, with their world view.

    • @propyro85
      @propyro85 Год назад +8

      Yea, that has to be a real zinger in a community that seems to have misogyny turned on as a standard setting way too often.

  • @wildworld6264
    @wildworld6264 Год назад +167

    The rebuttals you provide add a whole new layer of understanding to the topic. It's impressive how you address and debunk different claims. Kudos to you for making learning such an enjoyable experience. Looking forward to more of your enlightening content!

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      I must have missed something.
      She doesn't prove evolution because you can't. Hence "Theory of evolution"

    • @globalcoupledances
      @globalcoupledances Год назад +4

      @elguapo2831 - people don't prove evolution. They show evidence

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      @@globalcoupledances Isn't that how they prove it??
      Okay. Where is the evidence to show?
      Can you observe something turning into a new organism? Not a bacteria into bacteria, or a Finch into a Finch.
      Observation is the core of the scientific method.
      Yes or No?

  • @velinarsh
    @velinarsh Год назад +37

    Implying slower computers mean incorrect/invalid results ranks as likely the cringiest thing I've heard creationists say. And they offer a lot of cringe.

    • @DavidSmith-vr1nb
      @DavidSmith-vr1nb Год назад +6

      It's like they are willing to invert the macro/micro argument when it comes to computing power.

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад +1

      Would you trust your computer if it came from nothing?...No
      Then how can you trust your own intellect?
      Either human intelligence ultimately owes its origin to mindless matter; or there is a Creator. It is strange that some people claim that it is their intelligence that leads them to prefer the first to the second.

    • @MegaMisch
      @MegaMisch Год назад +2

      Don't blame them too much. People often tell them they are running on slowing hardware and are therefore wrong, and they took it to heart.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Год назад +3

      @@elguapo2831 *_everything_* owes its existence to "mindless matter," what's your point? A banana peel can still be yellow despite NONE of it atoms being yellow.

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      @@irrelevant_noob Hey noob, tap the "Read more" on my comment.
      I see why you missed the point.

  • @Felicity_D._Shroom
    @Felicity_D._Shroom Год назад +63

    No idea if Erica will see this, but I just want to say how great full I am for this channel. I found it earlier this week and have been binge watching non stop since then. Coming from a more Christian young earth background and finally deciding to find the truth, these videos have been the education that I could not get it my childhood. You are doing the lord’s work! Keep it up and thank you again!

    • @vforwombat9915
      @vforwombat9915 Год назад +7

      "I found it earlier this week and have been binge watching non stop since then. "
      for god's sake, felicity, get some sleep!

    • @DavidSmith-vr1nb
      @DavidSmith-vr1nb Год назад +4

      *grateful.

    • @shaurmiath6719
      @shaurmiath6719 Год назад +5

      As a fellow student of the world, formerly in the dark, scientifically speaking, who also began a search for the truth years ago, I am so proud of you for making the decision to think critically about your beliefs, step out of your comfort zone, and look for answers. Great job!

  • @Mostlyharmless1985
    @Mostlyharmless1985 Год назад +32

    The "big and strong" computer kinda got me because NASA was doing N-body problems on literal potatoes in the 60s with stacks of code taller than the women who wrote it, but somehow, processing large chunks of data in what amounts to be a database is outside the scope of most general home computing. Like, all you really need are threads, RAM, and disk space. We aren't doing anything particularly strenuous, we are just doing a lot of it as fast as we possibly can.

    • @vforwombat9915
      @vforwombat9915 Год назад +1

      "was doing N-body problems on literal potatoes'
      are you sure they weren't using watermelons?
      literally?
      "We aren't doing anything particularly strenuous, we are just doing a lot of it as fast as we possibly can."
      true. i'm making snarky comments as fast as i can.
      but my keyboard is a literal potato.

    • @Mostlyharmless1985
      @Mostlyharmless1985 Год назад

      @@vforwombat9915I'm sure they weren't watermelons, they have too much sugar in them, and Apple didn't come about for another 10 years or so.
      Perhaps finding something more important to be upset about instead of the figurative use of "literal" would help your potato keyboard issues, that or taking a vacuum to it to get the dirt out the cracks so you can move the spuds out the way.

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 Год назад +39

    Tompkins: making a charcuterie board of wrong genetic research.

    • @CharlesPayet
      @CharlesPayet Год назад +13

      Hey, what did a charcuterie board do to deserve that comparison?

  • @MrGustavier
    @MrGustavier Год назад +9

    11:03 _"Which I'm not going to go into"_
    🤣🤣

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 Год назад +70

    Being the villain of the Flat Earthers should be a point of pride

    • @amelliamendel2227
      @amelliamendel2227 Год назад +11

      Would that translate to being the devil for creationists?

    • @undrwatropium3724
      @undrwatropium3724 Год назад

      ​@@amelliamendel2227anything they don't agree with is "of the devil"
      Hail Satan and praise the science

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      Villian to God too

  • @CharlesPayet
    @CharlesPayet Год назад +56

    I imagine you’ve had plenty of people offering to run those BLAST tests on “bigger, stronger” computers, Erika, but if you need another one, I’d be glad to help. If mine isn’t good enough, I know people, ya know?

    • @Mostlyharmless1985
      @Mostlyharmless1985 Год назад +4

      Put me on the Compute time donation list as well.

    • @spaghettiupseti9990
      @spaghettiupseti9990 Год назад +5

      folding at home but BLAST

    • @muskyoxes
      @muskyoxes Год назад +4

      Let's get an admission of the basic high school math error before we put more power into this

    • @Mostlyharmless1985
      @Mostlyharmless1985 Год назад +3

      @@muskyoxes that would be graciously assuming that the creationists are operating in good faith. They aren’t. 20+ people saying “hey we ran your analysis the same way you did and we got these goofy ass results, explain please” would be funnier. I mean, they could be on to something significant and everything we know about anything is wrong. But I doubt it. For me it would just be power spent doing science instead of making characters kiss in baldurs gate 3. I’d say those are equally ignominious pursuits.

    • @muskyoxes
      @muskyoxes Год назад +3

      @@Mostlyharmless1985 They get to pretend to address the issue by spending all their time talking about old buggy software versions. Our only message should be "high school math error" repeated a hundred thousand times

  • @freedomofmusic2112
    @freedomofmusic2112 Год назад +17

    Erika stated one of the first things any Computer Science student learns. All computers can perform the same processes, but depending on your processor speed, a task will simply take longer. If you don't have enough RAM, a program just won't be able to run because your computer doesn't have a large enough "work space" for it.

  • @sammysamlovescats
    @sammysamlovescats Год назад +10

    It's really telling that he talks a lot about how much he would *like* for the number to be. Not a prediction, not excitement at the possibility of learning more, he clearly just wants the number to be lower cause he wants it to fit what he wants, not actually a desire to learn more

  • @catherinecox573
    @catherinecox573 Год назад +30

    I love "mean" Gutsick videos, the interjecting memes always make me chuckle

  • @KsThe20
    @KsThe20 Год назад +6

    8:26 "He's a gentle, quiet and unassuming person, and very humble" Wait, WHAT? Is it the same naughty boy Jeff we are talking about?...
    And even if he was, does it mean his work shouldn't be criticized? Are we in kindergarten?

    • @simongiles9749
      @simongiles9749 Год назад +2

      Anyway, aren't those the same words people use to describe the serial killer next door?

  • @paulcontursi5982
    @paulcontursi5982 Год назад +7

    Creationists are scientists in the same sense that Hulk Hogan is a professional athlete.

  • @kinglyzard
    @kinglyzard Год назад +10

    I saw the Tomkins video and called him out, demanding to see evidence for his accusations.
    To date, I've gotten crickets.
    That which cannot be backed up by evidence can be dismissed.
    But that which accuses without evidence is _slander_

  • @zodfanza
    @zodfanza Год назад +16

    Lol Erika's editing in her "foreshadowing" cracked me up including the meme-ing, doom sound effects and angry emoji at your name lol. It was so brilliant and humorous, I had to be very careful not to spit-take over my screen during my hot beverage-sipping.

  • @cenedra2143
    @cenedra2143 Год назад +35

    Oh wow! I watched the original 2 hour video and although a lot of it was way over my head, I'm pretty sure i understood more than Dr. Carter.

    • @Corvus.2606
      @Corvus.2606 Год назад +5

      yeah, watching the video definitely helps with understanding it 🤣Carter doesn't want to be right, he just wants his followers to THINK he is

    • @TheCount991
      @TheCount991 Год назад +1

      Yup. I watched that back when it came out, and even I could understand the problems with his methods to some degree. And this coming from a guy who didn't even take biology in high-school (probably for the best - YEC homeschool...) and sucks at math. It's amazing how incredibly basic his problems were. I don't need to be a geneticist to understand why controls and proper weighting are important.

  • @Vishanti
    @Vishanti Год назад +75

    When he doesn't even WATCH YOUR VIDEO!!!! Carter is in the same clown troupe as Sal Cordova, "responding" to things he hasn't actually watched. 🤡

    • @gupdoo3
      @gupdoo3 Год назад

      Rob Carter bitchmade timer

    • @nathanielgrey4091
      @nathanielgrey4091 Год назад +17

      The creationist method of research and response: 🙈🙉

    • @NewNecro
      @NewNecro Год назад +11

      All he needs is belief that he himself watched it after all.

    • @WukongTheMonkeyKing
      @WukongTheMonkeyKing Год назад +4

      ​@@nathanielgrey4091if only they remembered 🙊

    • @UncommonSense-wm5fd
      @UncommonSense-wm5fd Год назад

      Did you mean troupe or trope as they have distinctive differences in meaning.

  • @britnicox3929
    @britnicox3929 6 месяцев назад +3

    It’s really disingenuous for them to provide a step that they demand you take in order to be peered reviewed by young earth creationists and then say “well you can’t publish with us unless you agree with us.” That alone disqualifies them from being taken seriously

  • @jrojala
    @jrojala Год назад +15

    I respect your ability to tear these clowns down so calmly, almost kindly.

    • @donpietruk1517
      @donpietruk1517 Год назад

      She blinded them with science! (Sorry I couldn't resist the Thomas Dolby reference!)😂

  • @wendydomino
    @wendydomino Год назад +11

    The fact that you're causing such a stir in their community means that you're being effective.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад +1

      It does not matter, in his own circles this still makes him the hero. That's the sickening thing you can't argue with cults

    • @wendydomino
      @wendydomino Год назад

      I do think that young earthism is a cult at this point. Sadly it looks like flat earthism might try to take over.@@DrWhom

    • @SamyasaSwi
      @SamyasaSwi Год назад +1

      Nah I don't like these kind of conclusions. I see this used by conservatives all the time when people comment on something absurd being said by them. Just getting a response out of somebody doesn't necessarily mean anything.

  • @pinball1970
    @pinball1970 Год назад +9

    You are cited on physics forums very positively on your science break downs of palaeontology.

  • @yeoldegunporn
    @yeoldegunporn Год назад +9

    I don’t even get why they care about the percentages. Like, we share 85% with mice, 60% or whatever with fruit. Clearly life is very closely related.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад

      The question of what does matter is quite interesting and the answer is pretty complex

  • @juliav.mcclelland2415
    @juliav.mcclelland2415 Год назад +12

    Consider it an honor, Erica! You know you're doing a great job when they feel threatened! Keep it up!

  • @zodfanza
    @zodfanza Год назад +16

    His unweighted sequences problem is MIDDLE SCHOOL math not high school. For any intimidated by the field of genetics, this is irrelevant - all he's doing is failing to divide to get actual averages, that's it.
    His "comparison" is simply looking at two fractions and pretending they have the same denominator when they don't. That's all. Literally!

  • @strixalu
    @strixalu Год назад +25

    My favorite part is how Jeff says that he doesn't believe you because he doesn't think your computer can handle it. Like... so? What you think has no bearing on her results, Jeffrey. What, do you think she just tried to run the program, failed, and then made up the results???

    • @advorak8529
      @advorak8529 Год назад

      No, that is what Jeff would do.
      And why is that big computer sounding like … well … a dick measuring contest and serious micro-penis energy compensated by an overly large computer?
      And - not to forget - you can hire *serious* computing power from cloud providers for a few bucks … Rackspace, MS Azure, AWS, and a number of other sources!

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      Would you trust a computer that was made by nothing?
      Then how can you trust your own mind?

  • @polybius1156
    @polybius1156 Год назад +14

    I like to imagine Erika sitting in a villain lair on a private island stroking a fluffy white cat while wearing all black with an eyepatch doing an evil laugh as she scrolls her super villain computer with a comically large overhead monitor while deciding what YEC to debunk next.

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      Nobody cares about her sitting in hell though

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      @@sea-pin I understand that you find comfort in atheism.

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      @@sea-pin You must find comfort knowing that you will never meet God.
      FYI, there's No evidence for evolution.
      You have blind faith in something you can not see or prove.
      At least my faith has evidence to back it up.
      Make sure you check yourself and back up what you prophes before looking like a fool.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Год назад

      @@sea-pin hey, don't blaspheme like that! Apollo and Starbuck make a great team, everyone should believe in them... ;-)

  • @Jake_DapperInsideJoke_Nelson
    @Jake_DapperInsideJoke_Nelson Год назад +7

    Spicy Erika, and Spicy Dapper in one day? "What a wonderful world..."

  • @ConsoleCombat
    @ConsoleCombat Год назад +53

    I am always impressed with your ability to be so intelligent with your arguments and yet explain in a manner that even I can comprehend.

    • @bertthompson4748
      @bertthompson4748 Год назад +7

      "That even i can understand" is exactly how my layman ass feels about it too.

    • @jemborg
      @jemborg Год назад +3

      My understanding of maths and biology is just high school but I could follow her explanations pretty easily.

    • @DavidSmith-vr1nb
      @DavidSmith-vr1nb Год назад

      ​@@jemborg That's partly Erika being aware of her audience but mostly down to YEC being such a ridiculous assertion that you don't need to go very deep to find problems.

    • @jemborg
      @jemborg Год назад

      @@DavidSmith-vr1nb Your pardon, I was specifically referring to the past episode she was referencing in this episode.

  • @psychologicalprojectionist
    @psychologicalprojectionist Год назад +4

    8:24 “Gentle and quiet and unassuming person, I’ve found to be very humble”
    I am sure that is true, that doesn’t mean he is not a truckwit who knows he can’t reasonably defend his argument, so he has put his Bessie up to convolute an argument about middle school mathematics error.

  • @ruseriousdownunder4888
    @ruseriousdownunder4888 Год назад +7

    Thank you for your erudite response. Even if creation “science” was ever a reasonable hypothesis, it was abandoned long ago for its lack of explanatory value. Which is why creationism isn’t a science … it is a belief system desperately seeking justification.

  • @rolandwatts3218
    @rolandwatts3218 Год назад +8

    It's a plot against those poor Godly, truth telling creationists, I tell ya. I just hit the "Subscriptions" button and see that two hours ago the following videos were posted:-
    "Robert Carter, Liar | Creationists Have a Bad Relationship with Honesty: Part z" - from Dapper Dinosaur
    "Creationists Behaving Badly: Dr. Rob Carter" - from Creation Myths
    "Professional Creationist RESPONDS to my Tomkins Debunk (kinda)" - from Gutsick Gibbon
    :) :) :) Beautifully done GG.
    YECs do it so often:-
    YEC: "You are wrong!"
    You: "Why am I wrong?
    YEC: *silence*
    It always amazes me that YECs can be impressed by the kind of arguments Carter presents when he says (me paraphrasing) - "Erika made mistakes too, but I won't go into them here" or "How dare Erika criticize Jeffry. His science was correct. 85% or 95%, I don't really care."

  • @UMNOTMYREALNAME
    @UMNOTMYREALNAME Год назад +9

    What a sad little man. I guess no one can do the science like they does it. The dishonesty of these folks is totally gross.

  • @fmlunchbox
    @fmlunchbox Год назад +10

    The anxiety you triggered in me with that Zelda music, omfg. Those hands haunt my nightmares.
    Amazing content as always, thank you for what you do!

    • @mjjoe76
      @mjjoe76 Год назад

      Ancient shield? Check. Ancient arrows? Check. Master Sword? Check. Urbosa’s Fury? Check. Okay, let’s go Guardian hunting!

  • @katarzynaszajkowski8394
    @katarzynaszajkowski8394 Год назад +21

    Erika, thank you so much for what you do. You have expanded my interest in and capacity to learn science. I'm a theatre and English teacher now, and I've always been a fine arts/humanities gal with little interest in science. I don't think I can remember one teacher who really got me excited about science. I can't even explain how glad I am that I found your Ark Encounter video due to the algorithm taking advantage of my interest in deconstructing fundamentalism. I'm now learning more science than I ever have from all of your videos and have more stock in deconstructing these wacko Creationists with ~ science ~ than I ever thought I would. You're the best!

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 Год назад

      Funny how secular Humanist hide behind science, falsely so called.
      Do you not believe in Henry Ford because of the combustible engine?
      We have only to see a few letters of the alphabet spelling our name in the sand to recognize at once the work of an intelligent agent. How much more likely, then is the existence of an intelligent Creator behind human DNA, the colossal biological database that contains no fewer than 3.5 billion "letters the longest "word" yet discovered?"

  • @zigzagzaag
    @zigzagzaag Год назад +11

    The entire story of apologists is as follows:
    Scientists: We did a whole bunch of work and experiments and analyses. As a result, we've found out some really great information we'd like to share with you.
    Apologist: No, I really just think I'm right.
    🤷‍♂️

  • @jamesduncan3673
    @jamesduncan3673 Год назад +16

    Love it when the three of you team up like this. Now over to Dapper's channel for part two.

  • @grbradsk
    @grbradsk 5 месяцев назад +2

    In a very ironic way, you are in a metaphorical sense, doing God's work. I don't know how you have the patience. Thanks for doing this!

  • @barrry9
    @barrry9 Год назад +5

    Its pretty clear that their ideas of "being taken seriously" is "agree with me 100%". They only want peer review when it'll say they did a good job

  • @sava-smth
    @sava-smth Год назад +6

    "the answer doesn't mmatter" really the way to tell on themselves huh

  • @th3logician
    @th3logician Год назад +9

    Life just got a little bit better. Thank you Gutsick Gibbon 🥳

  • @ceciliaflwrs
    @ceciliaflwrs Год назад +29

    😊 Your content is AWESOME !🎉
    I think your way of explaining evolution is so contagious.GO ERIKA!!!🙌

  • @cuzned1375
    @cuzned1375 Год назад +3

    The bit starting somewhere around 26:00
    Carter says, “They changed the methodology,” like he’s caught them in some kinda trick.
    But, like, yeah. Of course they changed the methodology. They didn’t publish a whole new paper to correct a math whoopsie. They realized there was a better way to approach the research question - that’s why you’d publish a paper, Rob.
    Geez.

  • @jasonbelanger7525
    @jasonbelanger7525 Год назад +8

    Keep on keeping on with the transparency. Illuminating these people can only help humanity as a whole.

  • @lower_case_t
    @lower_case_t Год назад +3

    Is it just me or does his endless repetitions of "It's such a long video, it's so hard to watch" show how uncomfortable he is with the idea that some members of his flock might actually watch it? Isn't that the don't look behind the curtain thingy?

  • @mjjoe76
    @mjjoe76 Год назад +16

    The clip at 0:25 is a perfect response. It excellently summed up the situation.

  • @DC_Prox
    @DC_Prox Год назад +7

    There should have been a trigger warning for the BotW Guardian music, I was scrambling for my controller wanting to fast travel.

  • @Shipfish
    @Shipfish Год назад +11

    i'm not even finished with this vid but i'm doing my part for the algo. and i love it

  • @user-lb8qx8yl8k
    @user-lb8qx8yl8k Год назад +6

    I watched that creationist complain!! He said, and I quote, "That Erika. Ha!! She got it all wrong!! But Jeff!! Jeffy got it all right!!" Then he looked in the camera while using his pocket watch as kind of a pendulum and said, "Erika wrong!! Jeffy right." I don't know Mrs Gibbons, I have this strong feeling that you got this one all wrong.

  • @steveg1961
    @steveg1961 Год назад +5

    In fact, Erika gives enough information and references in her original video - the 2+ hours long one - that anyone with a computer can do the same thing for themselves. (Just don't use a computer with a dog of a CPU to do it.)
    Carter's response is just more of the standard creationist mentality of "I don't care what the actual detailed facts are, I'm just going to keep right on believing what I need to believe to cling to the religious doctrine I believe in no matter what the facts are."
    Which is exactly why no one who knows how to think straight takes creationists seriously at all anyway. Carter's own rhetoric shows why. They don't take science seriously, they don't take dealing with the facts seriously, and they don't even take their own rhetoric about "truth seeking" seriously (yes, they're complete hypocrites).

  • @MogamiKyoko13
    @MogamiKyoko13 Год назад +14

    I'm not in academia myself, but I know several people who are, and if I've learned anything from them, it's that you *will* cry at least once while defending your dissertation. These poor creationists shouldn't pretend to be academics if they can't handle the relatively kind takedowns from opponents like Gutsick Gibbon and Dapper Dinosaur on RUclips. It's real weenie behavior to just claim someone is being mean to you as a response video and not even address why the other person is wrong.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад

      What? I've never seen anyone cry during their viva

    • @rowandoyle7
      @rowandoyle7 Год назад +1

      I cried a lot while writing my master's thesis and after defending it; if I decide to do a PhD, I'll probably cry during prelims and maybe during oral defense of dissertation if I get that far haha.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Год назад

      @@DrWhom guess you've never seen anyone care enough about their own work, then? :-s

  • @irenafarm
    @irenafarm Год назад +4

    0:25 Oh woooooow. I’ve never seen that meme before but now I want that embroidered on a pillow….

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад

      I need context because god damn that hit too close.

  • @RayKosby
    @RayKosby Год назад +15

    Carter is the worst Tompkins hypeman ever.

  • @wiseone1013
    @wiseone1013 Год назад +6

    Impressive business! I liked this a lot. Exposing creationist ignorance for all to see is the way.

  • @johnboy5483
    @johnboy5483 Год назад +3

    I am impressed by your reasoning and energy. You're leaving scorched earth behind. But you don't have to convince me either. Hats off to you for wanting to deal with this nonsense.

    • @LostSignal89
      @LostSignal89 9 месяцев назад

      Book of Genesis has the answers. God created the world in 6 days.

    • @johnboy5483
      @johnboy5483 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@LostSignal89 not Google or ChatGBT?😏

    • @zombine555
      @zombine555 2 месяца назад

      ​@@LostSignal89the book of genesis does not comport with reality.

  • @april5666
    @april5666 Год назад +1

    Nah, you pants those YEC guys. No contest-I love what you stand up for. I am fed up with people trying to pass their opinions and agendas off as rational science.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Год назад +5

    👏🏻👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏿👏🏼👏🏻👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾👏🏻👏🏿👏🏼
    ~ ~ ~ ~standing ovation~ ~ ~ ~
    👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏿👏🏼👏🏻👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾👏🏻👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾
    I DO SO LOVE this kind of GG video! Thank you so much for the enjoyment, Erika!
    ~~~~~~~~
    On a separate subject:
    Everyone, please take time to tell your loved ones you love them EVERY chance you get. Tomorrow is not a given; you're never promised the next sunrise.
    ~ ~ ~ ~
    "And don't let it break your heart. I know it feels hopeless sometimes. But they're never really gone as long as there's a memory in your mind." _Hold On To Memories_ Dave Draiman, Disturbed
    💔💔
    Rest in Peace, son. 07 Jan 1984 - 02 Aug 2023
    Momma will miss you every day of the rest of my life!

  • @hairiestwizard
    @hairiestwizard Год назад +29

    Thanks for all you do! Quality content as always

  • @mstie3252
    @mstie3252 Год назад +5

    Excellent as usual, Erika. His video really seemed designed to discourage viewers from daring to check out your material (it's soooo long, and she made mistakes, I won't say what they were, just trust me!). Ugh. As usual, I learned a lot!

    • @manusiabumi7673
      @manusiabumi7673 Год назад +2

      If it's true then it says a lot about their target audience

  • @bln8285
    @bln8285 Год назад +2

    that man did not watch your video, but it was kind of you to give him the benefit of the doubt all the way until the comments section

  • @CharlesPayet
    @CharlesPayet Год назад +19

    And seriously, how pathetic is it to post a 21-minute video that literally doesn’t examine a single one of your points????

    • @Vishanti
      @Vishanti Год назад +5

      Sal Cordova's an expert on that.🤭

    • @romnarz344
      @romnarz344 Год назад +1

      The Point of the 21minute video is assure his creationist ‘followers ‘ or ‘sheep’ as they like to be called is that Erica is wrong and can be easily rebutted. Job done - they will not bother to look any further .

  • @seaglider844
    @seaglider844 Год назад +2

    I once attended a discussion/debate between Lawrence Krauss, Denis Lamoureux and Stephen (Intelligent Design promoter) Meyer at U of T. It was such an unfortunate waste of time for Krauss and Lamoureux, who were aware of Meyer's debunked arguments for Intelligent Design and were required to debunk him yet again. Meyer was flustered unable to make coherent arguments for his case....he blamed a migraine. Viewing this video reminded me of the incident and what a sad waste of time it was.....we could've experienced a great talk on cosmology but instead we got rehashed debunked hogwash getting debunked yet again. I can see why most scientists refuse to engage with these charlatans, it is an utter waste of time. Good on you for fighting the good fight Erika! They are truly pathetic when exposed.

  • @marsrii4372
    @marsrii4372 Год назад +5

    You have quickly ascended to the pantheon of the heroes of reason. You deserve 1 million subscribers ! 💕

  • @Wavicle
    @Wavicle Год назад +2

    What the... A *mean* Gutsick Gibbon video? Damnit, hang on. I'll be back when I'm done microwaving the popcorn 🍿

  • @tristonb1105
    @tristonb1105 Год назад +3

    Love the foreshadowing

  • @kalebsatterfield2443
    @kalebsatterfield2443 Год назад +14

    These are so entertaining. This one was also very funny, very nice editing and video arrangement. Educational as always! 😂😊

  • @Anxiousbug
    @Anxiousbug Год назад +4

    RUclips science drama is my favorite genre

  • @TheHeff76
    @TheHeff76 Год назад +11

    Nailing it as usual!!!! 🎉

  • @MarkBenson-j8o
    @MarkBenson-j8o Год назад +4

    At the end of a two hour Gutsick video about human-chimp genetic similarity I feel like I've learned something about the science involved. At the end of a 45 minute Gutsick rebuttal video I feel like I've learned even more! That's 2 hours 45 minutes of actual science! Keep up the good work. (Your audio doesn't sync correctly at times in your recent videos.)

  • @zodfanza
    @zodfanza Год назад +2

    You've EARNED the right to be "mean" ie to rightly ridicule now-demonstrated anti-science for what it is on its face. You went in-depth meticulous science showing your working and explaining in detail and inviting his response and updated calculations and revised information and he ignored all of it while still claiming he addressed you, and done this with other people who have bothered to refute his science too.
    He's shown what a bad faith actor he is, it's important to make it clear to anyone looking for real answers that this is the point-and-laugh moment, until this guy and those who defend his "work" actually get serious (and WATCH your videos instead of misrepresenting it) because people who misrepresent science shouldn't be entertained and platformed in serious debate until they actually solve the problems they created!
    Bravo, Erika! Don't let him wriggle out of this one! I've had enough of the YECs who keep spewing the same debunked lies even when they've been shown to be false. It's one thing to make mistakes, it's another to lie and misrepresent when you KNOW you're wrong.
    Don't bring that nonsense into science and academia, keep your bad Bible fanfics and world building in its lane until you can actually bring real scientific methods and real compelling evidence (and correct math that wouldn't embarrass a middle-schooler).

  • @CreationMyths
    @CreationMyths Год назад +5

    Woah you did a Carter video, too! What a coincidence!

  • @steveaustin4118
    @steveaustin4118 Год назад +7

    I think the part where he says you did things wrong but doesn't say what really is telling I'd say it suggests they already know Tomkins work is wrong

  • @BretHerron-tn3sq
    @BretHerron-tn3sq Год назад +3

    This is hilarious!
    C: Take me seriously!
    S: Let’s review your work
    C: Stop oppressing me
    Creationists are just children that couldn’t shake one more Santa story so it stuck into adulthood.

  • @njhoepner
    @njhoepner Год назад +2

    At 18:12 Dr. Carter exposes (probably unintentionally) the real problem with creationism, including young-earth creationism...reality has absolutely no impact on the "creation model." No matter what evidence one runs into, their universal answer is to shrug and say "well, God can do whatever he wants." Proving that what they're doing is religion, not science.

  • @zodfanza
    @zodfanza Год назад +3

    Ooh the new Gutsick Gibbon just dropped! You're my favourite channel I think, Erika! Can't wait to watch this!

  • @tonyhinderman
    @tonyhinderman Год назад +1

    That clip at the beginning is SO perfect for this situation 😂😂

  • @ShortSkullAnimation
    @ShortSkullAnimation Год назад +6

    I love this whole Tomkins saga! :P Hope it develops further! :)

  • @JTPiano2011
    @JTPiano2011 Год назад +1

    Gutsick Gibbon would be a great name for a band. Great video BTW

  • @ericdavis8864
    @ericdavis8864 Год назад +6

    For a creationist, I can see how 2 hours of having your lies and bs called out could be quite the trial. For the rest of us it was glorious and better than anything in theaters😁😻

    • @ancientbuilds3764
      @ancientbuilds3764 Год назад

      My job is curious. I get to see stuff you will never know about. Social control as it is. Making idiots. Keep it up. What a muppet.

  • @blueredingreen
    @blueredingreen 11 месяцев назад +1

    18:20 I don't know that I'd be quite so generous to say that Carter is saying biblical kinds follow the biological species concept. Sounds more like he's saying "kinds are whatever we say kinds are". It doesn't matter how small the difference is - even one single letter difference is enough for separate kinds. He will no-doubt flip-flop on the biological species concept, as creationists typically do, when anyone points out that this makes his model internally inconsistent. Ultimately, they keep things vague enough so nothing can disprove their model and therefore disprove their religious beliefs.

  • @scottduke
    @scottduke Год назад +12

    It’s videos like this that make me want to be the nice old man in Erika’s neighborhood that feeds and walks her dogs when they are out of town! Keep on being “mean” @Gutsick Gibbon! 😂

  • @drewspencerpenrose2003
    @drewspencerpenrose2003 Год назад +1

    "Hope you're ready for a second helping of that one, Rob" is such a killer line.
    Also, can't believe you put in the guardian piano music there. My blood pressure SPIKED.

  • @tedweird
    @tedweird Год назад +3

    I love how he both insists that his numbers are correct and it's important because they support his position, but also sidebars to say that the numbers are irrelevant because his position doesn't ride on them at all and would be correct at any number.

    • @creepingbrain
      @creepingbrain Год назад +1

      I was literally guffawing at that moment. All that effort to come up with bogus numbers in a desperate attempt to disprove how closely related chimps and humans are....and then all of a sudden the numbers just don't matter. What is wrong with these people 😂

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад

      ​@@creepingbraincrude measures like percentage similarity do not tell us all that much.

  • @ericweiss2913
    @ericweiss2913 Год назад +2

    Thank-you, Erika! I am a layperson where science is concerned but I do try to keep up with various fields of study. I LOVE how you owned this goober! While you may never be able to cut through his magical thinking and confirmation bias, your work to debunk the false "sciences" is critical.