Thanks as always for watching Gavin. Yes it does become more difficult to compose a foreground with the longer lenses but I reckon the extra effort is worth it.
Another great post, thank you. I have both, Sony and Nikon cameras and lenses, but as much as I love the Sony GM series lenses, I prefer to shoot with the Nikon system because, you may not know, the native Nikon lens will automatically be set to infinity upon power up (set to AF-S, turn camera on, then switch to MF), stars are needle sharp and it gets rid of the arduous "fly-by-wire" difficulties when focusing on stars.
Thanks for sharing Richard, because of you I began to use longer focal length lens and enjoy the challenge, however, I too love the 20mm prime. I can't wait until the Milky Way is visible again in the night skies here in Texas, USA.
Thanks Richard. As i wanted to avoid the extra cost of an startracker i opted for the Pentax Astrotracer option, it gives of course not the full spectrum of a startracker, but instead of 16s on 18mm APS-C it offers up to 300s on 18mm APS-C, and it is very easy and fast to set up, with longer focal length ofcourse also the available time on astrotracer lowers. But the Astrotracer offers you approximate 18times longer exposures than without, i personally would limit it to max 10 times to have a usable foreground and less streaks in the edges. If 10 times the exposure is not enoughthan of course an astrotracker would be the next investment. But as with the lenses, of course you get what you pay for, but on the other hand don't pay for something you don't need or isn't limiting you, the prices increase exponentially from level to level.
Great advice and images, as always! As a Canon RF shooter, we are short-changed for high quality wide angle primes until such time as Canon finally releases their long rumoured fast RF primes. Or they allow Sigma to release RF versions of their Art lenses. But the Canon RF15-35 zoom is very good and versatile, though f/2.8. Faster would be nicer! Just as you say. Keep cool! We had a spell of -40° nights a couple of weeks ago here in Alberta. No mozzies though!
Thanks as always for your great and insightful comments Alan. I know you have released some wonderful reviews on lenses over the years .. and also other camera gear, which we all enjoy. It's actually been a fairly mild and wet summer here so far. But still pretty warm. Hopefully you're right about Canon letting Sigma get involved with the RF mount.
Once again Richard you have excelled yourself. What a fascinating insight in to what equipment you use to produce your masterfully brilliant nightscape photography. You are definitely a Jack of All Trades and Master of every single one of them. I love your content which is always so entertaining and expertly presented. You know your stuff, keep 'em coming Richard! Car'n Tigers, Matty Knights, KB, utter champions.👍
Great video thanks. I started with the Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8, but I'm now loving my Nikon 24mm f/1.8 G and 28mm f/1.4 D lenses. You get so much more detail in the milky way with a normal wide rather than ultra wide angle lens as well as less distortion.
Something I feel was missed here is the importance of performance at wide apertures, not just the widest apertures available. Things like star shape quality across the frame, vignetting, and sharpness at wide apertures are all important, particularly for panoramas. Another thing that should really be explained is when it comes to panoramas, your focal length is really a measure of detail and time required rather than a matter of field of view. There is also an added difficulty of depth of field with longer focal length lenses. This is where the ~35mm focal length comes into power because it's a good compromise of all of these things. I would say the Tamron 35mm f/1.4 and Sigma 40mm f/1.4 Art are some of the best panorama lenses for this reason. You might argue that you can just stop lenses down for a tracker, but if you can get decent images at f/2 or less, then you don't have to expose so long. This means you'll get less star drift, less hot pixels and take less time to cover the sky. I would only recommend a 20mm lens for panoramas if you're covering an entire 360 degrees, or have a lot of complex foreground detail. The Nikon 20mm Z f/1.8 is a good option for this and I am tempted to get one, although I seem to rarely do 360 panoramas anymore.
All very good insights and I think you are spot on concerning the Tamron 35mm and Sigma art 40. I think a lot of people use the wider focal length lenses for panoramas simply to get it done quickly with less images .. but your point about extra detail using longer lenses is very valid. Appreciate you watching.
Great stuff Richard. I battled away with a 16-35mm f2.8 for years. Grabbing a much cheaper and lighter 20mm f1.8 has been amazing. Both Sony native lenses.
Glad you pointed out the Tamron 35mm f/1.4 Richard, seems to fly under the radar as a pretty epic lens for astro. In the shadow of the Sigma 40mm perhaps? Only lenses I'd add to your lineup for consideration is the Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 (great Sony 14mm GM alternative) and the Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8.
Thanks as always for watching Dominic. I'm waiting patiently for the release of the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 Nikon Z mount. It is coming. The biggest issue with the excellent Tamron 35 and Sigma 40 are the sheer size and weight.
Richard I also luv my Nikon 1.8 20mm and looking forward to another season of night shooting. Also looking forward to more of your vids in 2024. Hope you and Glenys have another great year. Deb and I are going to Iceland in August to tackle the Laugavegur trail then into a motor home to tour the ring road. Unfortunately the wrong time of year for the northern lights but you never know. Stay safe out there.😊
Very nice Richard, some good points made here. Due to money constraints I use a Tamron 15-30 with my Canon EOS R for nightscape which gives me pretty good results. My favorite targets are the auroras that we frequently get here.
Thanks for watching Mark. Canon have made it a little difficult with the RF mount as it isn't easy to get third party lenses for them. Nothing wrong with the 15-30 though.
I enjoyed this video very much Richard! I totally agree with you on the Z mount prime lenses! Your pictures are outstanding in this video...great work!
Hi Richard get video I use 2 lenses. I shoot with a d850. Both lenses are tamron 1 tamron sp 15-30 2.8. 2 Tamron sp 24-70 2.8 g2 I’ve enjoyed my results The 24-70 is my general go to lens
Awesome to even just listen too.... My go-to are the 24GM & 35GM on the Sony A7Riii & A7. I sometimes shoot a 24mm foreground & a 35mm sky too as I just like the look it gives especially with something like Orion. I do want to try some 85mm stuff though at some point.
Nice to see another video. I love my 24mm f1.8 Z lens which is great for astro but also very good for landscapes. Must say I don’t envy you going out under full moon, that’s when mozzies and midges are worst.
Hi Richard, I love your videos, both for the tutorials and also for giving me the means to escape when I need to. What I would love to see is...... when you show your photos with the settings you used, maybe you could also include the date taken and the approximate direction the shot was taken. This will help me get a grip on where to shoot at different times of the year. Ill totally understand if it's inconvenient for you. As with every other successful Aussie, I'm proud of you Richard. Good on ya mate!
Thanks so much for your very kind comments Neil. I usually don't want to clutter the screen over photos with too much text. This video might help from about the 9:57 mark. ruclips.net/video/CTlD3pSl1AA/видео.html
I love my 20mm Z mount lens, it is one of the most capable lenses I have ever used. I may as well bite the bullet and get the 14-24 f2.8 too. I also use the Samyang 14 f2.8 for the Z mount but only on a star tracker at f4, but I simply cannot handle the distortion that this lens has. Excellent overview Richard!!
Great video, Richard. Lots of food for thought there. I must admit, I use the 14-24mm f2.8 F mount on my D850, and it is still superb, despite its age, particularly stopped down to f3.5 and beyond, but I do tend to keep the lens at the 20mm focal length for exactly that reason of perspective distortion. On a recent holiday trip to Japan, I took the Nikon Zfc (APS-C sensor) with the 16-50mm kit lens in order to cut down weight and bulk. I was blown away at how well this lens and sensor did with night sky photography. I was expecting to be disappointed, but wasn't!! Thanks again, Richard, for all this wonderful content. Cheers.
Thanks! This is so informative. "Buy cheap and you buy twice!" I can relate to that. In my case it means buy too much 😊Beautiful and inspiring images! 😍
Thank you Richard, excellent lens review based on your field experience, as always your videos are highly educational, continuation of Clear skies, here in Lisbon PT it is still very cloudy👌👍🙏
Hello Richard. Great video! The fastest super wide angle is the Sigma Art 14mm f/1.4, not yet available for Nikon and Canon. There are only versions for Sony and Leica, unfortunately. Hug.
Fantastic video Richard, my personal favourite is the Sony 24mm 1.4GM, I absolutely love this lens. I have recently picked up a copy of the Viltrox 35mm 1.8 for the Sony and waiting for clear sky's to try it out on the MW. I do like the longer focal length also, hopefully will get to try it out soon. Cheers again Richard for a great episode. 👍
I am getting in to Astrophotography. I am shooting the full range from wideangle 14mm all the way up to telephoto deep space. But, living in the UK, and especially Wales, my main challenge is the damned weather. Would happily accept the mozzies for a clear sky! Thanks for the video!
Great information and I have been using my Nikon 14-24/20 mm on my D850 and just recently bought the Z version of the 14-24 to go with the Z9. Looking forward to trying it out and I will try the 85 1.8 as well. I never thought of using anything more than 24mm for Astro, but your suggestion on loner primes looks promising! Great info videos for NightScapes!! Any recommendations on trackers?
Thanks so much for watching Mike. I really like the Sky Watcher Star Adventurer Mini .. but also the standard Star Adventurer 2i. I also have the ioptron Sky Guider Pro which is a solid machine.
Always informative and engagingly presented, Richard - thank you. It definitely prompts the question “do I have the tools I need for what I’m trying to produce?”. My backpack gets heavier and heavier!!
Haha, well we do have to ask that question every now and then Paul. But I think you're doing quite ok with what you have my friend. I know all about the heavy backpack issues ..!!!
Great Information!!! Just got a Leica 9mm f1.7 for my OM1. A great Astro lens and right in the sweet spot for most landscapes. The OM 8mm 1.8 fisheye is also a very good lens and goes extremely wide. Even defished it’s wider than many 7mm lenses.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Richard, I want to watch all your videos over the next months. One thing I absolutely love about my OM1 is the Stary Sky Focus. As I bounce focus back and forth between the stars and the foreground, being able to simply press a button to get the stars is perfect focus is so VERY convenient!!!
A very informative video Richard,as always. I shoot Sony and I have three G Master primes,1.8 14mm,1.4 24mm and 1.4 50mm,all excellent lenses.The 24 would be my favourite for nightscapes.I call it my goldielocks lens because,as you said,it fits a lot in the frame without the distortion of a wider lens but with a big sky view,just right.The 50mm is new and I've not had a chance to use it at night but daytime comparisons lead me to expect just as good image quality as the 24mm.The 14mm is great for capturing panoramas in less shots than a longer lens,still with plenty of overlap for clean easy stitching.Distortion is not too bad for such a wide lens.You have to get pretty close to objects to see unfavourable levels of leaning trees or walls.Overall I'm quite impressed with these lenses as they produce crisp sharp images night or day. Thanks for the knowledge Richard.Between you and Alyn Wallaces guidence my nightscape photography is improving in leaps and bounds.
I love my Z 20mm f1.8, it’s definitely my favourite Astro/landscape lens that I use since upgrading to the Nikon Z6ii. Prior to that on Canon crop sensor, I was using the Tokina 11-20 f2.8 and had great results. I still use my Canon 70-200 on my Nikon via the Fringer EF-NZ adapter as well.
Thanks for the timely video Richard. I'm considering the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM ART Lens because, while I like astro landscape photography, its only one genre of photography I enjoy and I'm looking for a more versatile lens for the nights I go out under the stars.
We primarily chase auroras when we are traveling northbound to Finland, Sweden and Norway. In the past I have been using Zeiss prime lenses for our DSLRs (15mm 2.8, 25mm 1.4, 35mm 1.4, 50mm 1.4) and with me slowly moving into mirrorless I am considering at least the Nikon 20mm 1.8 Z-mount.
Great information, Richard. I shoot Canon Mirrorless, and currently I use the Rokinon14MM F2. 8 lens. I saw your image using the 50MM F1.4 lens - I have a Canon version and I like it, but it has way too much coma in the corners (It is the older version of this lens though!) In the upcoming Solar Eclipse, I will be using my Sigma 150-600 and, on my tracker, (mainly to keep the sun from drifting out of the frame as I do a time lapse before totality! Thanks again for your insight and knowledge - I really appreciate it!
Great video Richard as always! Was out last night with the NIKON Z20 mm f1.8 as it is beginning of Milky Way season in NZ and Southern Hemisphere. Am interested in trying the 50mm this year at some stage. I got the Z20mm on based on hour enthusiasm for the lens a while back. It is a brilliant lens and see why it is your favourite. 😊
Thanks so much for watching Dianne. Yes I have plenty of lenses in my bag but I always come back to the 20mm. I went out last night in search of the early morning rising galactic core. . it was magnificent ...!!!!
For Sony shooters who don’t want to pay the $$ for the Sony 24mm, Samyang makes a great one! I shot the recent aurora with both my Laowa 15 Macro and my Samyang 24 1.8 and the Samyang was the big winner. I love that Laowa lens, but that was the first time it showed a weakness. It just wasn’t sharp. The Samyang however was excellent and I love its feature of automatic infinity focus.
I've been enjoying my Irix 15mm F2.4. There's virtually no barrel distortion, but the tradeoff to achieve that is an angle of view that is considerably less than other wide angle lenses at that focal length. Obviously, it still suffers from exaggerated angles on buildings unless pointed straight on. I did a star trails image last year. Straightening the buildings had two effects: 1) significant cropping on the sides, and 2) elongation of the star trails into an oval, which I kinda like how that turned out. Otherwise, I've gravitated recently toward 50mm. One of my few opportunities to shoot last year (Canadian wildfires screwed up the skies for months) was at a fairly long wooden footbridge to do some light painting, remembering and utilizing many of your methods. I tried every lens I had from 12mm to 85mm, and 50mm was the one I liked the best. It gave me the best rendering of what my eye saw that night. It's a Yongnuo 50mm F1.4 - who knew, right? I like everything about it, except that there's a little bit of a magenta cast to fix in post. I just got my hands on a Nikon brand 50mm F1.4 just this past weekend, so I'll look forward to trying it out as soon as the winter clouds leave Michigan.
Thanks heaps for watching Derek. I've not had a chance to try out the Irix lenses but heard good reports about them. Yes I always love the 500 mm lenses.
Great video talking about focal lengths Richard. I really love the 20mm Nikkor Z for my Aurora shooting. I love both the Nikkor 20mm and 24mm Z lenses. I will on occasion use the 14-24mm f4 Nikkor Z for timelapse where I need to get a wide angle in the frame with great results on the Z6ii, I can't afford the f2.8 version unfortunately.
That was weird, I listened to your video from start to finish - and you ended up with the Sony 14mm 1.8 GM which heads my wish list for astro/aurora photography. Cheers - It's the 14mm or 20mm now.
Great video as always! I’ve been following your channel for years and I’m always impressed by your knowledge, enthusiasm and beautiful photos! I’m primarily not an astro photographer and I shoot mostly black and white. What’s your opinion on black and white milky way shots? I know many of your photos, especially the ones with light painting, would look amazing even with the colour stripped away! Give it a try and share your thoughts with us! Love from Sweden🔭
24mm is my jam. The 20mm distorts too much, but not enough at the same time. I got a 14mm recently too and I like it, because it distorts SO much, that it's fun, know what I mean? It's so extreme that it's artistic,whereas I find the 20mm distortion just not enough to be artistic, but not as clean as 24mm provides. This is of course personal preference. I mean look, they make 28mm because some folks claim they don't like the distortion of the 24mm! I personally, can't see what they do with the 24mm, so this is why it's my go to focal length. I think it's wide enough and provides nice sharp, straight sides. I just upgraded my main 24mm lens from a Rokinon 24mm 1.4 to the Sigma art 24mm 1.4 It's great having the auto focus for daytime shots and I can't wait to try it out this summer during Milky Way season. I have a sigma art 35mm 1.4 which I love for regular photography and have used it for Milky Way too, when I can, I'll use that to help pull in the sky. I have the common 50mm 1.8 Nikon which is great for smaller scenes to really pull the sky in. The larger the Milky Way looks, the better, so long as good subject can fit in there too. Also good for pano's. Next focal length I just picked up a Rokinon/Samyang 85mm 1.4 I'm not sure yet how it will do for stars but during the day, I got a nice clean copy and this thing is impressive for a little over $100 USD used. Super sharp, so I hope to get some Milky Way pano's with it. Then of course, like I said I just picked up a 14mm, also the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm 2.8 I got it for some fun, out of the norm artistic shots but the first time I used it, I was out on a beach with a wide open scene and all it did was take a great big, clean shot hahaha just like you said in the video, if it's a wide open landscape, it works without distortion there. So I used it in the wrong place for fun artistic style, BUT I learned what you mentioned; it can be a great "normal" view in such cases too, so it's good to have on hand. Especially considering the low priced used. I also recently picked up Nikon's old school 16mm 2.8D fisheye. I think that could make some fun, silly, artistic shots of the night sky too. Like the 14mm, I don't expect to go out, and take my best shots with these, but where there's still time, yet not enough time to move to another location, pull out one of these for some shots after taking the more serious, 24mm-50mm main shots. Still rocking the, now old school D610 DSLR with no desire to move on from it anytime soon. I love this old girl.
Great video sir. I just bought the Sony A7S (mark I) for astro video, not photography. What lens would you recommend for that? I want to catch meteors etc.
Hi Sir Aditya amazing and very educational video like always. I just love your art style so creative is your style of teaching to people like us. I know you have heard this from me very often but I hope to meet you and learn from you. I'm a big and huge fan of yours. Thank you so much sir again for this beautiful educational video. Hope to meet you soon and learn and be a successful nightscape like you one day. Cheers Buddha bless you and your sweet family always 😊❤❤❤
My favorite lens is the Sigma18-35 f1.8 S mount. I bought it when I was using my Nikon D5600. When I moved up to a Nikon Z6II, I got an adapter for it. I have a couple other lens mentioned in this video, but my Sigma lens seems to give me the sharpest pictures. The only negative is that it's a heavy and long lens. But my thinking is that weight means more glass, and sharper pictures. I do have an off topic question. What "Picture Control" settings do you use in your Nikon Z6II? I'm currently using Landscape. But would Auto, Neutral, or Standard, or Custom be better for nightscape and Milky Way? Thanks for what you do, Richard. You've taught me a lot and keep me motivated.
Thanks for watching Mike, really appreciate it. The picture profiles are irrelevant when shooting in RAW file format. They relate to jpeg images. I use standard. The Sigma 18-35 f1.8 is a great lens but it's designed for crop sensor cameras . .so when you use it with the Z6ii it will crop into the final image to fit. You are right about many of the best lenses being large and heavy.
Hi, Richard! I think I'll upset you. In the spring, I bought a Sony 14mm 1.8 and used it on my Nikon Z5 via Megadap ETZ. For six months, I observed tangential astigmatism up to f2.8 on a lens worth more than $1,000. I couldn't stand it and sold it to a neighbor, and it turned out that there were no aberrations on his old Sony A7R. Apparently it is better to use lenses only for the native mount...
Hello... Absolutely great video! A question... What would be the best lens you would recommend for astrophotography with Sony A7 IV? Thank you very much... 🙂
Can you go over video settings for Astro photography? I just started enjoying AP and would love to add video. Been a professional Real estate and commercial photographer for 14 yrs now and cannot believe I waited so long to do AP. I love your channel and that you light paint. We do that in Real estate photography too when doing twilight photos. You do very beautiful work. Thank you for being so thorough with your teaching!
Thanks so much for your very kind words Marnie. Shooting video at night is extremely difficult and so I use a Sony A7s3 camera with a Sony 24mm f1.4GM lens. I shoot at 25 frames per second at iso64000 I do add a touch of lighting on most occasions. I like to be able to see the stars in the background and give the viewer the real experience of being out there under the stars.
@@nightscapeimages.richard i don’t know much about that camera, I will def look into it. I could use it in my RE photog also. I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Binge watching them all! Best content on astrophotography out there!
Hi Richard, very good review of all the options, I enjoy your videos very much, thanks for sharing your expertise and knowledge. I have one question about the Nikkor Z 20mm lens. My main lens for landscapes in general is the Z 14-24mm lens. But I am hearing from you and many other Nikon Z astrolandscape photographers that the Z 20mm is the one that everyone prefers. The question I have, how often you actually use it at f/1.8? Because if you stop it down to, say, 2.8, I could get the same result with the Z 14-24mm at 20mm, right? So do you really use it at 1.8 and do you see any difference in the corners when compared to 2.8 aperture? thanks, Miklos
Thanks so much for watching Miklos. A very good question. I do often shoot the 20mm at f1.8 when wanting lots of light gathering power .. mainly for ambient lit foregrounds. The other thing is that when you stop the f1.8 lens down to f2.8 you clean up the outer portion of the image quite a bit. I think there's also less vignetting and more light transmission with it compared to the Z14-24. Nothing wrong with the 14-24 f2.8 .. it's an awesome lens. The other thing I'd mention is that I rarely like to shoot at 14mm focal length . .I prefer that little extra zoom.
Excellent review and good timing as I was going to pick your brains about the nikon 20mm 1.8 s. Now I'm thinking about that lens in the future. Did buy the Megadap and was slowly moving towards Sony lenses with my Z6 but the Megadap stopped working and the 2 year warranty they offer is obviously a no go because they have never replied back to all 5 emails, so look after your copy. Mine stopped working after an update😢. Going to buy the Neewer adapter version soon but definitely that Nikon 20mm
@@nightscapeimages.richard yes unfortunate but I also have a Sony Camera now also. Loved video mate. I think you just like going out getting eaten alive 😂. Look forward to your next one 👍
Hi Richard, interesting video, I am using a Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 on my Pentax K30, I have been chasing the Auroras of late and found the the size of them lately has been filling up the screen and then some. What is your impression of the fisheye lenses and would you use one for Aurora photography? I have found a couple of couple of lenses that are appealing to me, one is a Pentax Fisheye 10-17 3.5-4.5, Sigma 10-17 3.5 these are about all my budget can afford. I would love to hear your views on fisheye lenses in particular. I think we chatted some time ago on lenses if my memory serves me correctly. When I asked you whether you lived in Horsham. Cheers Robert.
The Pentax K30 is a crop sensor camera and therefore your 18mm lens is actually seeing as field of view of approx 27mm .. which is not very wide for aurora. Yes you may have good results with a fisheye lens but the best aurora lenses are wide aperture. EG: f1.8 I'm sure there are not a lot of fast aperture lenses available for the Pentax range these days Robert.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thanks for your response, I thought you would be out photographing the night sky. You are right, even the Sigma lens that I mentioned is not that fast but, it is as fast as I can find at this stage. Last outing I was playing around with f stops and shutter speeds just to see what sort of a pic I could get and to my surprise I could still get good images with the slower f stop eg 3.5 and slightly slower shutter. Which got me thinking that the Sigma lens just may be okay, considering there is not much difference in price. Not sure that I am convinced about the fisheye lens I have watched videos on them, but not sure. Cheers Robert.
I'm wanting a 20mm Sigma Art lens for Canon. But, unfortunately, prices are so expensive in Brazil that I am discouraged from buying. The same for any startracker. Importing the lens would be an option if there weren't so many taxes. It’s difficult to be an astrophotographer in Brazil... Best Wishes, Richard!
thanks for your video as now alot of new lenses as i am looking into add some new wide angle lens. I am not so happy about Viltrox 24mm f1.8 due to not wide enough and have to add 1 stop to get corner sharpness better.
I owned all the 20mm you mentioned on your video, plus the Sigma 20 1.4 DG DN, and the Voigtlander 21 F1.4, and I found the Sigma 20 F1.4 DG DN wins hands down in every category. For the 24, I totally agree with you the Sony 24GM is really the best of the best for Astro. the Samyang 24 1.8 comes next, Nikon really have nothing that can compete with them whether in F or Z, in fact, other than the new 20 F1.8Z, Nikon really got nothing to compete with E-mount for Astro in the wide end. . yes, I pretty much only use E-mount lenses on my Z body for landscape and Astro. I also agree with you that Sigma 40 1.4 is just fantastic which Nikon don't have any answer to that either, I am surprised I don't heard a lot of people mentioned this Sigma 40 F1.4, but after playing with it it became my favorite lens right away, I now have Sigma 40 1.4 , Sony 35GM , Voigtlander 35 F2 APO, Sigma 35 F1.2, and Zeiss 35 F1.4 Milvus in ZE mount, I really have hard time to name which one is the " best", I guess for Astro specifically, I would vote for the Sigma 35 1.2 and Sigma 40 F1.4, but the Sony 35GM I just as good. unfortunately again, Nikon has nothing to compete in this area either, I have the 35 1.4G but it's pretty horrible in Astro, the new 35 1.8 Z is much better but still not in the same league as the Sigma and Sony. You also mention you would love to have the Sony 14GM, but have you tried the Sigma 14 DGDN? after I received my Sigma 14 F1.4 DG DN, both my Sony 14GM and Sigma 14 F1.8 Art lost their love from me and they are no longer my favorite 14mm, again the 14 1.4 DG DN wins in every category just like the 20mm, that manual focus lock is a really a killer feature for astro, and that alone makes lens heater use so much easier, just a fantastic lens. we are really living in a great era with some many awesome choices.
That's a great comprehensive insight Danny, really appreciate it. I know quite a few people who love all the new Sigma DG DN lenses as you have suggested. The only thing I don't like about them is the size and weight.
The Tamron 35mm 1.4 is definitely one of the best lenses in it`s range ! ONly it is big -- but nowadays quite cheap second hand ! OF course there are so many more options when taking manual focus lenses into account ! The Voigtlander 50mm f2 Apo comes to mind😉 ( maybe just a view lenses might be better than the Nikon z 50mm 1.8 when looking for a 50mm for astro, but of course some are, I guess the Milvus series might be extremely good , the 50mm and the 85mm 1.4 ! )
Next time we meet up, you could try my Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM lens on your Sony a7S3 and see if you like it. I am impressed by this lens for wide nightscapes combined with the Sony feature of "Bright Monitoring" which makes compositions so easy. 😎👌👍
If you have a Sony camera, then the bright monitoring feature is able to be programmed for night compositions. I have a Sony a74 and I can literally see the Milky Way Galaxy and my foreground subject easily on the LCD. It is a great feature!@@PTCX
Great images!!! Yes any maker of cameras' and lenses today are superb. I started Astro MW in 2015 and the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 (no contacts) was terrible and not even Lr had a LC for it for a couple years, that was then! I capture with the Sony A7SM1/2/3 and the A7RM2. IF you are just starting the E 10-18mm (15-27mm) APS-C f/4 OSS is great came out in '14 before the A7 line BUT it will work in full frame mode 12-18mm (18mm if you remove the rear light shield) the positive is treads for filters if you want. Smaller than the 12-24mm f/4 or f/2.8 and even the 14mm f/1.8 even needs a filter holder. Ok all ultrawides the reason is you can do a MW ARC in July and Aug in a single row of a pano. Just for info yes the 16-35mm f/2.8 or f/4 are great no filter holder needed. f/4 is great and 25s image. Learn to do panos and it will save you from buying a lot of lenses. Lastly the Sony Mod 1 and 2 you can put apps on cameras and the app "Digital Filter" will allow capturing with any and all camera setting separate for sky and foreground.
Thanks for sharing. What made you spend the extra money for the 20mm Z mount lens, since you have the F mount? Is the 20mm f1.8 for F mount not as sharp as 20mm Z mount? Kindly share what you think.
Hi Richard, luv your work. You didnt generally talk about using truley ultawide, eg 10mm I have been learning my RF10-20mm f4 for 2 months now. Trust me, it can be difficult, but not impossible, to make great shots @ 10mm on this lens. Lots of learning to do. I call 10mm retilinear UUW ultra ultra wide. One benifit of 10mm is being able to aim the lens completely horizontal to avoid tilting buildings. Beware of stretched objects at the sides. 10mm is certainly worthy of astro landscapes, especially from a lookout or clifftop. The other lens worthy of discussion is the RF85mm f1.2. Mine is tack sharp at f1.2 across most of the frame (I use tbis lens every week at f1.2 for all sorts of subjects, inc sports), and for milkywaycore, stopped down a little to f1.6 = sharp and no ca accross the entire frame. 2 sec shot @ lowish iso didnt need tracking. The othe
Thanks heaps for watching. That RF10-24 looks like an amazing lens. I guess the downside for astro landscape is the f4 aperture. There's no doubt the RF lenses are excellent quality.
Hello Richard, and thanks for the video. When you used the Sony lens on the Z6 (for stills), did you find it easier to focus as compared to the Z lens? I ask because I own the Z6ii and a few Z primes, but I have a REALLY tough time focusing on the stars and getting decent results. I am pushing 70 years of age, but in theory it should not be that difficult to focus these lenses. I thought maybe the Sony might have been easier. FWIW, I did purchase a used Nikon F 50mm 1.8G, and it is a bit easier to focus, but the coma is really bad even stopped down.
Thanks for watching David. The Sony lenses are pretty easy to focus I think. But to be honest when using native Nikon Z lenses I let the camera do the work of focusing. See this link: willchaney.com/2022/01/07/nikon-z-camera-easy-trick-to-focus-on-stars-and-the-milky-way/
Thanks so much for watching. The Sigma 16mm f1.4 is a very good lens, but it is made for crop sensor cameras. You didn't mention which Nikon Z camera you're shooting with. But if you use this lens on a crop sensor camera the actual field of view is 24mm . .which is starting to get a bit tight for timelapse . . especially given the cropping that takes place.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thanks for pointing that out. I actually changed to a mirrorless Nikon Z7ii which is a full frame (thanks to you 😊), so the 16mm may not work. I have been struggling to find the right lens for time lapses, and unsure if I want to use the 15mm you have.
Yes it is a problem. Other people have had good success with the Laowa 15mm f2 but for me it's just not quite right. Viltrox are going to release a 16mm f1.8 for the Nikon Z system soon. They will be sending me one to test when that happens. I wouldn't use the Sigma 16mm on your Z7 though. @@moraltraveller1166
I had both the Sony 14mm and 20mm f1.8 lenses. They both had bad coma/astigmatism in the corners with wings like a soaring wedge-tail eagle. I cannot unsee corner abberations and draw the line when stars have wings. I now have the Sigma 14mm f1.4 Art and crop if i need it a little narrower.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Maybe they were bad copies but lenstip is also unflattering about these two lens' abberations. Only when stopping down to 2.8 did I find them usable.
WOW your the best at explaining the camera lens that will fit into our budgets Richard. I have always bought the better lens so I dont have to buy it twice. I actually save money on the long run. Cheers
if i have APS-C camera should i buy a 16mm lense or 24mm lense? like you said in video around 20mm is a sweet point, i heard in crop sensor you have to multiply it by 1.6 and then it shows you a real angle. so when i have a aps-c i should buy wider lense like 16mm to get a reasult of ~24mm? and a 24mm to get ~38mm? a Or am i wrong? Greetings from Poland!
For full frame, there are a few companies, including IRIX that make a 21mm f1.4 lens. For crop, Sigma makes the excellent 18-35 f1.8 Have you tried either of these?
At 12:27 (one heck of a photograph), the tree blocking the light with the storm clouds coalescing overhead, is that the moon or some other light source being blocked by the trunk? There also seems to be more light on the trunk and the tips of the branches than the branches just above the trunk; did you do this with a flashlight or in post?
Great info Richard, you were very influential in my original decision to purchase the Nikon 20mm f1.8 - hope you got that commission 😉. In addition to the z6 I've been shooting a bit with the APSC Nikon Z30, mainly for star trails and timelapse and with a viltrox 13mm f1.4. Tbh, it is OK but I'm a little underwhelmed when I compare it to the results achieved by astro buddy Virat Shah on his 14-24 f/2.8 . I will persist while I await the release of the Z6iii and maybe the Nikkor Z 35mm f/1.2 but that will be a budget stretch.
Thanks again for watching Greg. We have many great lenses to choose from these days which is fantastic. I'm going to get a Z6iii as soon as they are released ..!!! I'm not so interested in the 35mm f1.2 though. Maybe a bit too big and heavy for my liking .. same as the 50 f1.2
For nightscapes I use Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, Sony 24mm 1.4 GM and Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical, all great Lenses which I highly can recommend. I forgot to mention the Zeiss Loxia Distagon 21mm 2.8 T'.
Richard, is there anything “unethical” about shooting the sky at 50mm and the ground at 24mm - as long as you divulge the truth? I like to do this and I don’t lie about it. Do you feel this is inappropriate? You can’t imagine how much you have taught me and I am doing very well with stock time lapse sales thanks to you.
You cheater! :D I've thought about trying this too. Take like what, a 4 shot pano with the 50? to get enough sky for it? Pull that Milky way right on in, nice and large but then do all the landscape light painting with the 24mm on. I've got to try it. Only problem is, if you want to stack for noise, you've got to take all 4 pano shots, about 10 snaps each hahaha, stack 'em all, then stitch 'em for the sky background. I bet the results are worth it though.
I've been thinking about going out this year and taking sky shots of the Milky Way in all focal lengths including pano's to keep them to use as sky replacements so I can go out and take snow covered, night landscapes with the Milky Way. The sky is so overcast in the winter but the landscape is till pretty, so rather than stopping going out to take nightscapes, this could make for some super cool shots that you can't take here in reality. Just because it's not "real" doesn't mean it can't be art, right? And even if it's not "real" it doesn't mean it's still not fun either, right? Those who go outsides the "rules" and make their own art, are the ones who get noticed. ;) I think as long as your not passing something off as something it's not, then it's not unethical....It's still art. It's still photography. It's still a fun hobby.
As far as I'm concerned that's perfectly fine Boyce. You can certainly do whatever you want with your own photography .... many people get carried away with ethics that don't really exist.
Only photographers ask or care about technique or how an image was made - most people do not care and enjoy an image for what it is. How many people ask an artist, say painter, what type brush he uses??@@nightscapeimages.richard
Well when shooting 35mm at f1.4 the infinity focus point will be a fair way from the camera so you'll most likely have to do 2 images with one focused at infinity and the other focused on your foreground. If your foreground is a long way from the camera as per a landscape then it may be possible to just do one image focused to infinity.
I think the 16mm lens would be the easier one to capture the stars. 35mm f2 is a great lens but on the Fuji it's closer to 50mm focal length and I think that's a little too narrow for most compositions. It can certainly be done and I have plenty of 35 and 50mm shots . .but it's a lot harder to get them.
I ise my Lawoa 12mm D-zero for time lapses and meteor showers. I have 20mmf/1.8 G, Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2 excellent and with the best focus ever and with DOF shown in a LCD at its top varying according to focal poin and apperture so even at the dark we know de minimal and maximum distance in focus, 35mm f/1.4 GM, Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 (extremely sharp), 70-200mm f/2.8, redcat 5.1 250mm f/4.9, William Optics GT 81mm (478mm with 1x flattner) and SVBony 854mm f/7.
hey Richard, hoping you can help. So, I shoot with a R3 and have been trying my hand at getting Milky Way shots and also shots of the comet. I'm trying to focus with live view (5x and 10x magnification) on a bright object (Venus) without any luck. I have tried 4 lenses now - Canon EF 20-35 f2.8L, Samyang EF 14mm f2.8, Canon EF 50mm f1.8 and Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8L (non IS) - what I am experiencing is I cannot get the stars to be a point source and any images to be sharp. I get an in and out of focus star (I've been using telescopes for over 40 years, so I know how to focus and what stars should look like when focused correctly) and then a very faint blob in between. None of these focus points, on ANY of these lenses, result in tight stars in final images. I am getting very frustrated and to the point where I will just forget I - I am not enjoying it and it's just creating stress and anxiety for me. WTF is going on with my setup(s)? I usually shoot birds and will probably just forget about Milky Way imaging to be honest, it's just not enjoyable. There's an old adage - don't do something that you don't enjoy. I am just spending 30-60 minutes in the field screwing with manual focus without joy on each occasion. It is NOT fun. Any help would be appreciated. PS I may invest in a Bahtinov mask to suit my lenses (probably for the 50mm).
That's very strange indeed Dave. It shouldn't be that hard. Do you have image stabilization enabled . .?? That's been known to upset some systems with manual focus. It seems your method is correct so I'm not able to offer any further solutions. The Samyang 14mm is notoriously difficult to get focused however.
@@nightscapeimages.richard no, no IS (none of these lenses have IS - the 20-35 is 28 years old, the Samyang doesn't have IS, the 50mm doesn't have IS and the 70-200 is the first EF lens in that zoom range and didn't have IS either). I am having the same issue with all of the lenses. I am going to test this further and focus with the 50mm during the day on a distant land object and tape down the focusing ring so it can't move. And then test it with star images that night and see if they look good, and also test the live view and see what that looks like. AFAIK, live view doesn't have any focusing calibration, since focusing is controlled by the lens itself. And dioptre shouldn't be a thing either. I did also try focusing by eye in the EVF although as you would know, that's not gonna be really accurate since the stars are so tiny. I also tried AF, but nada luck. I know it shouldn't be that hard. I've been using telescopes since I was 10 (and I am now 55), and I have quite a few telescopes and eyepieces, so I know what inside and outside of focus look like on a star. I'm getting inside and outside focus with the lens/camera and in between, a faint bloated blob for the star. None of the positions are providing sharp stars. It doesn't help that my 50mm doesn't have a focusing range display. I was shooting at 10 seconds and f1.8. Dew not an issue, since it's in the low 20c here in Brisbane and both lenses last night (50mm and 70-200) were outside for ~40 odd minutes so should have adjusted to temperature anyway, with any dew disappearing. Not cold enough for dew anyway imho. IBIS is turned off in Canon cameras if the lens doesn't have IS by the way Richard. You can't have IBIS if the lens doesn't have IS. It's a bit different from Sony and Nikon I believe. I am really scratching my head and starting to get very frustrated with it all. I haven't tried any of my other cameras (1 more MLC, a Canon R10 and a bunch of DSLRs). I could re-test with them, but I do prefer to use the R3 since it's got the cleanest high ISO performance (of any camera on the market to be honest).
@@davepastern I had a guy this year at a workshop shooting nightscapes with an R3 .. he got very impressive results. I believe he was using the Canon 16-35 f2.8 EF mount and maybe a Sigma art 20mm lens.
@@nightscapeimages.richard it's a very good camera. I can't afford any new lenses (my priority is saving for a Canon EF 600mm f4 II lens for my birding photography). Birding photography is my first love. Astro is just me getting out of my comfort zone.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Is my pleasure to watch as I get that inspiration needed and to see what is possible here in this big country of ours. After-all you learn from masters and you are up there Richard.
The 20mm Z mount is my go to lens as well. Absolutely love it.
Can't beat it I reckon.
Yes. This is the perfect video for me at the moment. Thankyou Richard
I'm so pleased you found it helpful, thank you.
Great video Richard. I do love the longer focal length images these days and I feel it really fills the frame with the best of the core.
Thanks as always for watching Gavin. Yes it does become more difficult to compose a foreground with the longer lenses but I reckon the extra effort is worth it.
Thanks Richard. I love seeing how new equipment can/can't change the quality, workflow, and working output. Lots of that here.
Yes you are so right. It all comes down to how we think and then choosing the lens that best fits our desired outcomes. Appreciate you watching.
Another great post, thank you. I have both, Sony and Nikon cameras and lenses, but as much as I love the Sony GM series lenses, I prefer to shoot with the Nikon system because, you may not know, the native Nikon lens will automatically be set to infinity upon power up (set to AF-S, turn camera on, then switch to MF), stars are needle sharp and it gets rid of the arduous "fly-by-wire" difficulties when focusing on stars.
Yes I sure do know about that feature .. and I do use it all the time.
Thanks for sharing Richard, because of you I began to use longer focal length lens and enjoy the challenge, however, I too love the 20mm prime. I can't wait until the Milky Way is visible again in the night skies here in Texas, USA.
Yes those longer lenses are very tempting for sure. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Richard. As i wanted to avoid the extra cost of an startracker i opted for the Pentax Astrotracer option, it gives of course not the full spectrum of a startracker, but instead of 16s on 18mm APS-C it offers up to 300s on 18mm APS-C, and it is very easy and fast to set up, with longer focal length ofcourse also the available time on astrotracer lowers. But the Astrotracer offers you approximate 18times longer exposures than without, i personally would limit it to max 10 times to have a usable foreground and less streaks in the edges.
If 10 times the exposure is not enoughthan of course an astrotracker would be the next investment. But as with the lenses, of course you get what you pay for, but on the other hand don't pay for something you don't need or isn't limiting you, the prices increase exponentially from level to level.
It sounds like you're getting the best possible results with that gear Tom. It's really good thinking by Pentax.
Great advice and images, as always! As a Canon RF shooter, we are short-changed for high quality wide angle primes until such time as Canon finally releases their long rumoured fast RF primes. Or they allow Sigma to release RF versions of their Art lenses. But the Canon RF15-35 zoom is very good and versatile, though f/2.8. Faster would be nicer! Just as you say.
Keep cool! We had a spell of -40° nights a couple of weeks ago here in Alberta. No mozzies though!
Thanks as always for your great and insightful comments Alan. I know you have released some wonderful reviews on lenses over the years .. and also other camera gear, which we all enjoy. It's actually been a fairly mild and wet summer here so far. But still pretty warm.
Hopefully you're right about Canon letting Sigma get involved with the RF mount.
Once again Richard you have excelled yourself. What a fascinating insight in to what equipment you use to produce your masterfully brilliant nightscape photography. You are definitely a Jack of All Trades and Master of every single one of them. I love your content which is always so entertaining and expertly presented. You know your stuff, keep 'em coming Richard! Car'n Tigers, Matty Knights, KB, utter champions.👍
Haha, thanks heaps. I was just talking about Richo the other day with another Tigers supporter ...!!!
Great video thanks. I started with the Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8, but I'm now loving my Nikon 24mm f/1.8 G and 28mm f/1.4 D lenses. You get so much more detail in the milky way with a normal wide rather than ultra wide angle lens as well as less distortion.
Yes you are so right Carl. Thanks heaps for watching my friend.
Something I feel was missed here is the importance of performance at wide apertures, not just the widest apertures available. Things like star shape quality across the frame, vignetting, and sharpness at wide apertures are all important, particularly for panoramas. Another thing that should really be explained is when it comes to panoramas, your focal length is really a measure of detail and time required rather than a matter of field of view. There is also an added difficulty of depth of field with longer focal length lenses. This is where the ~35mm focal length comes into power because it's a good compromise of all of these things. I would say the Tamron 35mm f/1.4 and Sigma 40mm f/1.4 Art are some of the best panorama lenses for this reason. You might argue that you can just stop lenses down for a tracker, but if you can get decent images at f/2 or less, then you don't have to expose so long. This means you'll get less star drift, less hot pixels and take less time to cover the sky. I would only recommend a 20mm lens for panoramas if you're covering an entire 360 degrees, or have a lot of complex foreground detail. The Nikon 20mm Z f/1.8 is a good option for this and I am tempted to get one, although I seem to rarely do 360 panoramas anymore.
All very good insights and I think you are spot on concerning the Tamron 35mm and Sigma art 40. I think a lot of people use the wider focal length lenses for panoramas simply to get it done quickly with less images .. but your point about extra detail using longer lenses is very valid. Appreciate you watching.
Great stuff Richard. I battled away with a 16-35mm f2.8 for years. Grabbing a much cheaper and lighter 20mm f1.8 has been amazing. Both Sony native lenses.
Yes I think it makes a lot of sense. Appreciate you watching.
Glad you pointed out the Tamron 35mm f/1.4 Richard, seems to fly under the radar as a pretty epic lens for astro. In the shadow of the Sigma 40mm perhaps?
Only lenses I'd add to your lineup for consideration is the Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 (great Sony 14mm GM alternative) and the Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8.
Thanks as always for watching Dominic. I'm waiting patiently for the release of the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 Nikon Z mount. It is coming. The biggest issue with the excellent Tamron 35 and Sigma 40 are the sheer size and weight.
Richard I also luv my Nikon 1.8 20mm and looking forward to another season of night shooting. Also looking forward to more of your vids in 2024. Hope you and Glenys have another great year. Deb and I are going to Iceland in August to tackle the Laugavegur trail then into a motor home to tour the ring road. Unfortunately the wrong time of year for the northern lights but you never know. Stay safe out there.😊
Thanks as always for watching Andrew. I'm sure you'll love Iceland . .have fun you guys.
Very nice Richard, some good points made here. Due to money constraints I use a Tamron 15-30 with my Canon EOS R for nightscape which gives me pretty good results. My favorite targets are the auroras that we frequently get here.
Thanks for watching Mark. Canon have made it a little difficult with the RF mount as it isn't easy to get third party lenses for them. Nothing wrong with the 15-30 though.
I enjoyed this video very much Richard! I totally agree with you on the Z mount prime lenses! Your pictures are outstanding in this video...great work!
Many thanks indeed my friend. Appreciate you watching.
Hi Richard get video I use 2 lenses. I shoot with a d850. Both lenses are tamron 1 tamron sp 15-30 2.8. 2 Tamron sp 24-70 2.8 g2 I’ve enjoyed my results The 24-70 is my general go to lens
Yes they are really good lenses. I used to use the Tamron zooms with wedding photography etc a while ago.
Awesome to even just listen too.... My go-to are the 24GM & 35GM on the Sony A7Riii & A7. I sometimes shoot a 24mm foreground & a 35mm sky too as I just like the look it gives especially with something like Orion. I do want to try some 85mm stuff though at some point.
Thanks so much for watching Lee. Sounds like a great combination you've got there.
That's a great rundown Richard! I've been shooting mainly with Sigma 14-24 f2.8 but am getting more and more interested in primes.
Well you're doing very well with your 14-24 Jeroen .... always love your work.
Nice to see another video. I love my 24mm f1.8 Z lens which is great for astro but also very good for landscapes. Must say I don’t envy you going out under full moon, that’s when mozzies and midges are worst.
Haha, yes I sure did find that out the hard way Laurel. Thanks as always for watching.
Hi Richard, I love your videos, both for the tutorials and also for giving me the means to escape when I need to. What I would love to see is...... when you show your photos with the settings you used, maybe you could also include the date taken and the approximate direction the shot was taken. This will help me get a grip on where to shoot at different times of the year. Ill totally understand if it's inconvenient for you. As with every other successful Aussie, I'm proud of you Richard. Good on ya mate!
Thanks so much for your very kind comments Neil. I usually don't want to clutter the screen over photos with too much text. This video might help from about the 9:57 mark. ruclips.net/video/CTlD3pSl1AA/видео.html
I love my 20mm Z mount lens, it is one of the most capable lenses I have ever used. I may as well bite the bullet and get the 14-24 f2.8 too. I also use the Samyang 14 f2.8 for the Z mount but only on a star tracker at f4, but I simply cannot handle the distortion that this lens has. Excellent overview Richard!!
Yes I agree with your thoughts. One thing I didn't mention was that the Laowa 15mm f2 has less distortion than the Samyang 14mm lens.
I agree with you on the Nikon 20mm f/1.8. Its an amazing lens ! I also like to shoot wide open with the 14-24 on the D850.
Both excellent lenses. Thanks for tuning in.
Great video, Richard. Lots of food for thought there. I must admit, I use the 14-24mm f2.8 F mount on my D850, and it is still superb, despite its age, particularly stopped down to f3.5 and beyond, but I do tend to keep the lens at the 20mm focal length for exactly that reason of perspective distortion. On a recent holiday trip to Japan, I took the Nikon Zfc (APS-C sensor) with the 16-50mm kit lens in order to cut down weight and bulk. I was blown away at how well this lens and sensor did with night sky photography. I was expecting to be disappointed, but wasn't!! Thanks again, Richard, for all this wonderful content. Cheers.
Thanks again for watching Simon. Yes I love what Nikon have done with all their mirrorless range of cameras .. they are all excellent.
Thanks! This is so informative. "Buy cheap and you buy twice!" I can relate to that. In my case it means buy too much 😊Beautiful and inspiring images! 😍
Thanks so much for watching, really appreciated.
Thank you Richard, excellent lens review based on your field experience, as always your videos are highly educational, continuation of Clear skies, here in Lisbon PT it is still very cloudy👌👍🙏
The clouds are a consistent problem for a lot of people Mario. I appreciate you watching.
Such stunning images mate. Can't wait to get back to Australia
Thanks for watching Markus.
Thanks for the video Richard. The Nikkor Z 20mm f/1.8 is my favorite lens on the Z6II. On DSLR, Nikon D750 used the Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8.
Yes both great choices Rogerio.
Hello Richard. Great video! The fastest super wide angle is the Sigma Art 14mm f/1.4, not yet available for Nikon and Canon. There are only versions for Sony and Leica, unfortunately. Hug.
Thanks so much for watching Jorge. Yes a great lens although big and heavy.
Fantastic video Richard, my personal favourite is the Sony 24mm 1.4GM, I absolutely love this lens. I have recently picked up a copy of the Viltrox 35mm 1.8 for the Sony and waiting for clear sky's to try it out on the MW. I do like the longer focal length also, hopefully will get to try it out soon. Cheers again Richard for a great episode. 👍
Thanks again for watching Dennis. I tested the Viltrox 35mm and it was really good.
I am getting in to Astrophotography. I am shooting the full range from wideangle 14mm all the way up to telephoto deep space.
But, living in the UK, and especially Wales, my main challenge is the damned weather. Would happily accept the mozzies for a clear sky!
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching Brian. Yes things are certainly different on your side of the world.
Great information and I have been using my Nikon 14-24/20 mm on my D850 and just recently bought the Z version of the 14-24 to go with the Z9. Looking forward to trying it out and I will try the 85 1.8 as well. I never thought of using anything more than 24mm for Astro, but your suggestion on loner primes looks promising! Great info videos for NightScapes!! Any recommendations on trackers?
Thanks so much for watching Mike. I really like the Sky Watcher Star Adventurer Mini .. but also the standard Star Adventurer 2i. I also have the ioptron Sky Guider Pro which is a solid machine.
Always informative and engagingly presented, Richard - thank you. It definitely prompts the question “do I have the tools I need for what I’m trying to produce?”. My backpack gets heavier and heavier!!
Haha, well we do have to ask that question every now and then Paul. But I think you're doing quite ok with what you have my friend. I know all about the heavy backpack issues ..!!!
Great Information!!! Just got a Leica 9mm f1.7 for my OM1. A great Astro lens and right in the sweet spot for most landscapes. The OM 8mm 1.8 fisheye is also a very good lens and goes extremely wide. Even defished it’s wider than many 7mm lenses.
Fantastic information, thank you.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Richard, I want to watch all your videos over the next months. One thing I absolutely love about my OM1 is the Stary Sky Focus. As I bounce focus back and forth between the stars and the foreground, being able to simply press a button to get the stars is perfect focus is so VERY convenient!!!
@@earlteigrob9211 Yes that sounds wonderful.
A very informative video Richard,as always.
I shoot Sony and I have three G Master primes,1.8 14mm,1.4 24mm and 1.4 50mm,all excellent lenses.The 24 would be my favourite for nightscapes.I call it my goldielocks lens because,as you said,it fits a lot in the frame without the distortion of a wider lens but with a big sky view,just right.The 50mm is new and I've not had a chance to use it at night but daytime comparisons lead me to expect just as good image quality as the 24mm.The 14mm is great for capturing panoramas in less shots than a longer lens,still with plenty of overlap for clean easy stitching.Distortion is not too bad for such a wide lens.You have to get pretty close to objects to see unfavourable levels of leaning trees or walls.Overall I'm quite impressed with these lenses as they produce crisp sharp images night or day.
Thanks for the knowledge Richard.Between you and Alyn Wallaces guidence my nightscape photography is improving in leaps and bounds.
I really appreciate your comments my friend. You have some really nice lenses there for sure.
I love my Z 20mm f1.8, it’s definitely my favourite Astro/landscape lens that I use since upgrading to the Nikon Z6ii. Prior to that on Canon crop sensor, I was using the Tokina 11-20 f2.8 and had great results.
I still use my Canon 70-200 on my Nikon via the Fringer EF-NZ adapter as well.
Thanks for that Andrew. I didn't mention Tokina .. but they make some good lenses.
Thanks for the timely video Richard. I'm considering the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM ART Lens because, while I like astro landscape photography, its only one genre of photography I enjoy and I'm looking for a more versatile lens for the nights I go out under the stars.
Thanks for watching Rory. The Sigma 18-35 f1.8 is a crop sensor lens and it's been around for a while. Although I think it's very good.
We primarily chase auroras when we are traveling northbound to Finland, Sweden and Norway. In the past I have been using Zeiss prime lenses for our DSLRs (15mm 2.8, 25mm 1.4, 35mm 1.4, 50mm 1.4) and with me slowly moving into mirrorless I am considering at least the Nikon 20mm 1.8 Z-mount.
You will love the Nikon Z 20mm Peter .. it's a wonderful lens.
Great information, Richard. I shoot Canon Mirrorless, and currently I use the Rokinon14MM F2. 8 lens. I saw your image using the 50MM F1.4 lens - I have a Canon version and I like it, but it has way too much coma in the corners (It is the older version of this lens though!) In the upcoming Solar Eclipse, I will be using my Sigma 150-600 and, on my tracker, (mainly to keep the sun from drifting out of the frame as I do a time lapse before totality! Thanks again for your insight and knowledge - I really appreciate it!
Thanks as always for watching Gary. I hope you go well with the eclipse my friend.
Great video Richard as always! Was out last night with the NIKON Z20 mm f1.8 as it is beginning of Milky Way season in NZ and Southern Hemisphere. Am interested in trying the 50mm this year at some stage. I got the Z20mm on based on hour enthusiasm for the lens a while back. It is a brilliant lens and see why it is your favourite. 😊
Thanks so much for watching Dianne. Yes I have plenty of lenses in my bag but I always come back to the 20mm. I went out last night in search of the early morning rising galactic core. . it was magnificent ...!!!!
@@nightscapeimages.richard it sure was, went out myself after a few months break and was in awe.
For Sony shooters who don’t want to pay the $$ for the Sony 24mm, Samyang makes a great one!
I shot the recent aurora with both my Laowa 15 Macro and my Samyang 24 1.8 and the Samyang was the big winner. I love that Laowa lens, but that was the first time it showed a weakness. It just wasn’t sharp. The Samyang however was excellent and I love its feature of automatic infinity focus.
Thanks so much for your insights.
I've been enjoying my Irix 15mm F2.4. There's virtually no barrel distortion, but the tradeoff to achieve that is an angle of view that is considerably less than other wide angle lenses at that focal length. Obviously, it still suffers from exaggerated angles on buildings unless pointed straight on. I did a star trails image last year. Straightening the buildings had two effects: 1) significant cropping on the sides, and 2) elongation of the star trails into an oval, which I kinda like how that turned out.
Otherwise, I've gravitated recently toward 50mm. One of my few opportunities to shoot last year (Canadian wildfires screwed up the skies for months) was at a fairly long wooden footbridge to do some light painting, remembering and utilizing many of your methods. I tried every lens I had from 12mm to 85mm, and 50mm was the one I liked the best. It gave me the best rendering of what my eye saw that night. It's a Yongnuo 50mm F1.4 - who knew, right? I like everything about it, except that there's a little bit of a magenta cast to fix in post. I just got my hands on a Nikon brand 50mm F1.4 just this past weekend, so I'll look forward to trying it out as soon as the winter clouds leave Michigan.
Thanks heaps for watching Derek. I've not had a chance to try out the Irix lenses but heard good reports about them. Yes I always love the 500 mm lenses.
Great video talking about focal lengths Richard. I really love the 20mm Nikkor Z for my Aurora shooting. I love both the Nikkor 20mm and 24mm Z lenses. I will on occasion use the 14-24mm f4 Nikkor Z for timelapse where I need to get a wide angle in the frame with great results on the Z6ii, I can't afford the f2.8 version unfortunately.
Yes that's such a common story Les. I think all of the Nikon Z lenses are wonderful.
That was weird, I listened to your video from start to finish - and you ended up with the Sony 14mm 1.8 GM which heads my wish list for astro/aurora photography. Cheers - It's the 14mm or 20mm now.
All the Sony shooters I know who own that lens love it.
*This was a good show, thank you for sharing.* *Smiles*
Thanks so much for watching my friend.
Great video as always! I’ve been following your channel for years and I’m always impressed by your knowledge, enthusiasm and beautiful photos! I’m primarily not an astro photographer and I shoot mostly black and white. What’s your opinion on black and white milky way shots? I know many of your photos, especially the ones with light painting, would look amazing even with the colour stripped away! Give it a try and share your thoughts with us!
Love from Sweden🔭
Thank you so much for your support of my channel. I have done a few black and white nightscapes, but generally I prefer the colour versions.
24mm is my jam. The 20mm distorts too much, but not enough at the same time. I got a 14mm recently too and I like it, because it distorts SO much, that it's fun, know what I mean? It's so extreme that it's artistic,whereas I find the 20mm distortion just not enough to be artistic, but not as clean as 24mm provides. This is of course personal preference. I mean look, they make 28mm because some folks claim they don't like the distortion of the 24mm! I personally, can't see what they do with the 24mm, so this is why it's my go to focal length. I think it's wide enough and provides nice sharp, straight sides.
I just upgraded my main 24mm lens from a Rokinon 24mm 1.4 to the Sigma art 24mm 1.4
It's great having the auto focus for daytime shots and I can't wait to try it out this summer during Milky Way season.
I have a sigma art 35mm 1.4 which I love for regular photography and have used it for Milky Way too, when I can, I'll use that to help pull in the sky.
I have the common 50mm 1.8 Nikon which is great for smaller scenes to really pull the sky in. The larger the Milky Way looks, the better, so long as good subject can fit in there too. Also good for pano's.
Next focal length I just picked up a Rokinon/Samyang 85mm 1.4
I'm not sure yet how it will do for stars but during the day, I got a nice clean copy and this thing is impressive for a little over $100 USD used. Super sharp, so I hope to get some Milky Way pano's with it.
Then of course, like I said I just picked up a 14mm, also the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm 2.8
I got it for some fun, out of the norm artistic shots but the first time I used it, I was out on a beach with a wide open scene and all it did was take a great big, clean shot hahaha just like you said in the video, if it's a wide open landscape, it works without distortion there. So I used it in the wrong place for fun artistic style, BUT I learned what you mentioned; it can be a great "normal" view in such cases too, so it's good to have on hand. Especially considering the low priced used.
I also recently picked up Nikon's old school 16mm 2.8D fisheye. I think that could make some fun, silly, artistic shots of the night sky too. Like the 14mm, I don't expect to go out, and take my best shots with these, but where there's still time, yet not enough time to move to another location, pull out one of these for some shots after taking the more serious, 24mm-50mm main shots.
Still rocking the, now old school D610 DSLR with no desire to move on from it anytime soon. I love this old girl.
Lots of people agree with you regarding the 24mm focal length. Wow, you sure do have a lot of lenses.
Great video sir. I just bought the Sony A7S (mark I) for astro video, not photography. What lens would you recommend for that? I want to catch meteors etc.
If you want to do live video at night you need the fastest aperture you can get. I use the Sony 24mm f1.4 but other similar lenses would be good.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thanks m8.
Great video mate, have to watch it again. Thankyou
Thanks so much Phil. Sorry I didn't mention the Olympus system .. but they have some awesome lenses also.
@@nightscapeimages.richard I listened think the olympus 25 might fit , ill let you know
Hi Sir Aditya amazing and very educational video like always. I just love your art style so creative is your style of teaching to people like us. I know you have heard this from me very often but I hope to meet you and learn from you. I'm a big and huge fan of yours. Thank you so much sir again for this beautiful educational video. Hope to meet you soon and learn and be a successful nightscape like you one day. Cheers Buddha bless you and your sweet family always 😊❤❤❤
Thank you so much for your kind support my friend.
Thnx Richard! Found your website and payed you a coffee. Keep on! Thank you.
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You are very kind my friend, thanks for your great support.
My favorite lens is the Sigma18-35 f1.8 S mount. I bought it when I was using my Nikon D5600. When I moved up to a Nikon Z6II, I got an adapter for it. I have a couple other lens mentioned in this video, but my Sigma lens seems to give me the sharpest pictures. The only negative is that it's a heavy and long lens. But my thinking is that weight means more glass, and sharper pictures.
I do have an off topic question. What "Picture Control" settings do you use in your Nikon Z6II? I'm currently using Landscape. But would Auto, Neutral, or Standard, or Custom be better for nightscape and Milky Way? Thanks for what you do, Richard. You've taught me a lot and keep me motivated.
Thanks for watching Mike, really appreciate it. The picture profiles are irrelevant when shooting in RAW file format. They relate to jpeg images. I use standard. The Sigma 18-35 f1.8 is a great lens but it's designed for crop sensor cameras . .so when you use it with the Z6ii it will crop into the final image to fit. You are right about many of the best lenses being large and heavy.
Stunning images as always!! BTW do you have any input on sigma art 85 f1.4 and sigma art 105 f 1.4 lenses ?
Thanks for watching. I've not personally used those lenses but I know a few portrait photographers who love them.
Amazing video!! This encourages me to go out and shoot at night!
Greeting from NZ🎉
Thanks so much for watching Jimmy, really appreciated.
Hi, Richard! I think I'll upset you. In the spring, I bought a Sony 14mm 1.8 and used it on my Nikon Z5 via Megadap ETZ. For six months, I observed tangential astigmatism up to f2.8 on a lens worth more than $1,000. I couldn't stand it and sold it to a neighbor, and it turned out that there were no aberrations on his old Sony A7R. Apparently it is better to use lenses only for the native mount...
I think that's always a possibility with adaptors. I'd still like to try it though.
Hello... Absolutely great video! A question... What would be the best lens you would recommend for astrophotography with Sony A7 IV? Thank you very much... 🙂
For Sony I'd recommend. Sony 14mm f1.8, Viltrox 16mm f1.8, Sony 20mm f1.8, Sony 24mm f1.4
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thank you... 🙂
Can you go over video settings for Astro photography? I just started enjoying AP and would love to add video. Been a professional Real estate and commercial photographer for 14 yrs now and cannot believe I waited so long to do AP. I love your channel and that you light paint. We do that in Real estate photography too when doing twilight photos. You do very beautiful work. Thank you for being so thorough with your teaching!
Thanks so much for your very kind words Marnie. Shooting video at night is extremely difficult and so I use a Sony A7s3 camera with a Sony 24mm f1.4GM lens. I shoot at 25 frames per second at iso64000 I do add a touch of lighting on most occasions. I like to be able to see the stars in the background and give the viewer the real experience of being out there under the stars.
@@nightscapeimages.richard thank you so much for your reply. I shoot with a Sony a74 and I happen to have the 24 gmaster also.
@@marnienorris The A74 is a wonderful camera .. but the A7S series is next level in hi iso video shooting.
@@nightscapeimages.richard i don’t know much about that camera, I will def look into it. I could use it in my RE photog also. I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Binge watching them all! Best content on astrophotography out there!
Hi Richard, very good review of all the options, I enjoy your videos very much, thanks for sharing your expertise and knowledge. I have one question about the Nikkor Z 20mm lens. My main lens for landscapes in general is the Z 14-24mm lens. But I am hearing from you and many other Nikon Z astrolandscape photographers that the Z 20mm is the one that everyone prefers. The question I have, how often you actually use it at f/1.8? Because if you stop it down to, say, 2.8, I could get the same result with the Z 14-24mm at 20mm, right? So do you really use it at 1.8 and do you see any difference in the corners when compared to 2.8 aperture? thanks, Miklos
Thanks so much for watching Miklos. A very good question. I do often shoot the 20mm at f1.8 when wanting lots of light gathering power .. mainly for ambient lit foregrounds. The other thing is that when you stop the f1.8 lens down to f2.8 you clean up the outer portion of the image quite a bit. I think there's also less vignetting and more light transmission with it compared to the Z14-24. Nothing wrong with the 14-24 f2.8 .. it's an awesome lens.
The other thing I'd mention is that I rarely like to shoot at 14mm focal length . .I prefer that little extra zoom.
Excellent review and good timing as I was going to pick your brains about the nikon 20mm 1.8 s. Now I'm thinking about that lens in the future. Did buy the Megadap and was slowly moving towards Sony lenses with my Z6 but the Megadap stopped working and the 2 year warranty they offer is obviously a no go because they have never replied back to all 5 emails, so look after your copy. Mine stopped working after an update😢. Going to buy the Neewer adapter version soon but definitely that Nikon 20mm
Sorry to hear about the adaptor fail Carl. To be honest I don't use mine much as most of those lenses are covered with my Nikon one's anyway.
@@nightscapeimages.richard yes unfortunate but I also have a Sony Camera now also. Loved video mate. I think you just like going out getting eaten alive 😂. Look forward to your next one 👍
I think I have mozzie attracting blood ...!!!@@carljames7562
Hi Richard, interesting video, I am using a Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 on my Pentax K30, I have been chasing the Auroras of late and found the the size of them lately has been filling up the screen and then some. What is your impression of the fisheye lenses and would you use one for Aurora photography? I have found a couple of couple of lenses that are appealing to me, one is a Pentax Fisheye 10-17 3.5-4.5, Sigma 10-17 3.5 these are about all my budget can afford.
I would love to hear your views on fisheye lenses in particular. I think we chatted some time ago on lenses if my memory serves me correctly. When I asked you whether you lived in Horsham. Cheers Robert.
The Pentax K30 is a crop sensor camera and therefore your 18mm lens is actually seeing as field of view of approx 27mm .. which is not very wide for aurora. Yes you may have good results with a fisheye lens but the best aurora lenses are wide aperture. EG: f1.8
I'm sure there are not a lot of fast aperture lenses available for the Pentax range these days Robert.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thanks for your response, I thought you would be out photographing the night sky. You are right, even the Sigma lens that I mentioned is not that fast but, it is as fast as I can find at this stage. Last outing I was playing around with f stops and shutter speeds just to see what sort of a pic I could get and to my surprise I could still get good images with the slower f stop eg 3.5 and slightly slower shutter. Which got me thinking that the Sigma lens just may be okay, considering there is not much difference in price. Not sure that I am convinced about the fisheye lens I have watched videos on them, but not sure.
Cheers Robert.
All good information, as usual.
Luv ya ❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks again Carole, hope you're well.
I'm wanting a 20mm Sigma Art lens for Canon. But, unfortunately, prices are so expensive in Brazil that I am discouraged from buying. The same for any startracker. Importing the lens would be an option if there weren't so many taxes. It’s difficult to be an astrophotographer in Brazil... Best Wishes, Richard!
That's not good Rafael. I appreciate you watching my friend.
thanks for your video as now alot of new lenses as i am looking into add some new wide angle lens. I am not so happy about Viltrox 24mm f1.8 due to not wide enough and have to add 1 stop to get corner sharpness better.
Yes I do find the 20mm focal length a little easier to manage than the 24 for general astro landscape use.
Great video Aussiemate, have a great weekend.
Thanks as always for watching Rob
I am a Sony Shooter I mostly use Sony 20 mm f1.8 G and Voigtlender 50mm APO Lanther f2 for my night scapes. You should try Voigtlander.
Thanks for watching. I've heard good things about them.
Loved it all as usual Richard!
Very kind of you to tune in Les, many thanks.
I owned all the 20mm you mentioned on your video, plus the Sigma 20 1.4 DG DN, and the Voigtlander 21 F1.4, and I found the Sigma 20 F1.4 DG DN wins hands down in every category.
For the 24, I totally agree with you the Sony 24GM is really the best of the best for Astro. the Samyang 24 1.8 comes next, Nikon really have nothing that can compete with them whether in F or Z, in fact, other than the new 20 F1.8Z, Nikon really got nothing to compete with E-mount for Astro in the wide end. . yes, I pretty much only use E-mount lenses on my Z body for landscape and Astro.
I also agree with you that Sigma 40 1.4 is just fantastic which Nikon don't have any answer to that either, I am surprised I don't heard a lot of people mentioned this Sigma 40 F1.4, but after playing with it it became my favorite lens right away, I now have Sigma 40 1.4 , Sony 35GM , Voigtlander 35 F2 APO, Sigma 35 F1.2, and Zeiss 35 F1.4 Milvus in ZE mount, I really have hard time to name which one is the " best", I guess for Astro specifically, I would vote for the Sigma 35 1.2 and Sigma 40 F1.4, but the Sony 35GM I just as good. unfortunately again, Nikon has nothing to compete in this area either, I have the 35 1.4G but it's pretty horrible in Astro, the new 35 1.8 Z is much better but still not in the same league as the Sigma and Sony.
You also mention you would love to have the Sony 14GM, but have you tried the Sigma 14 DGDN? after I received my Sigma 14 F1.4 DG DN, both my Sony 14GM and Sigma 14 F1.8 Art lost their love from me and they are no longer my favorite 14mm, again the 14 1.4 DG DN wins in every category just like the 20mm, that manual focus lock is a really a killer feature for astro, and that alone makes lens heater use so much easier, just a fantastic lens. we are really living in a great era with some many awesome choices.
That's a great comprehensive insight Danny, really appreciate it. I know quite a few people who love all the new Sigma DG DN lenses as you have suggested. The only thing I don't like about them is the size and weight.
The Tamron 35mm 1.4 is definitely one of the best lenses in it`s range ! ONly it is big -- but nowadays quite cheap second hand !
OF course there are so many more options when taking manual focus lenses into account ! The Voigtlander 50mm f2 Apo comes to mind😉 ( maybe just a view lenses might be better than the Nikon z 50mm 1.8 when looking for a 50mm for astro, but of course some are, I guess the Milvus series might be extremely good , the 50mm and the 85mm 1.4 ! )
Yes you are right. And obviously for astro the manual focus is no issue. I've not tried a lot of the newer release lenses except for the Viltrox.
Very nice video as always
. Very nice lenses
Thanks as always for watching Luis
Great video! Did you try the Viltrox 20mm 1.8 manual lens?
Thanks for watching. No that's one I haven't tried . .but from all reports it's a pretty good lens.
Next time we meet up, you could try my Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM lens on your Sony a7S3 and see if you like it. I am impressed by this lens for wide nightscapes combined with the Sony feature of "Bright Monitoring" which makes compositions so easy. 😎👌👍
Nice tip on the Bright Monitoring Geoff,that will come in handy.
Thanks Geoff. Yes the Sony 14 is wonderful for sure. There will be a Viltrox 16mm f1.8 for Nikon Z mount released soon . .I'm keen to try that one.
If you have a Sony camera, then the bright monitoring feature is able to be programmed for night compositions. I have a Sony a74 and I can literally see the Milky Way Galaxy and my foreground subject easily on the LCD. It is a great feature!@@PTCX
Excellent video. I'm a Sony person and have some of those lenses!
Out of interest what was the lake?
Thanks so much for watching Megan. Which lake are you referring to ..??
@@nightscapeimages.richard at 8:05.
That's Lake Eildon @@travelmoreworkless
Hi Richard. Have you tested the Viltrox 16mm f1.8? Your comments on this lens. Thanks
Yes I love it. Check my video on it. ruclips.net/video/qokQpvjX_1A/видео.html
Great images!!! Yes any maker of cameras' and lenses today are superb. I started Astro MW in 2015 and the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 (no contacts) was terrible and not even Lr had a LC for it for a couple years, that was then! I capture with the Sony A7SM1/2/3 and the A7RM2. IF you are just starting the E 10-18mm (15-27mm) APS-C f/4 OSS is great came out in '14 before the A7 line BUT it will work in full frame mode 12-18mm (18mm if you remove the rear light shield) the positive is treads for filters if you want. Smaller than the 12-24mm f/4 or f/2.8 and even the 14mm f/1.8 even needs a filter holder. Ok all ultrawides the reason is you can do a MW ARC in July and Aug in a single row of a pano. Just for info yes the 16-35mm f/2.8 or f/4 are great no filter holder needed. f/4 is great and 25s image. Learn to do panos and it will save you from buying a lot of lenses. Lastly the Sony Mod 1 and 2 you can put apps on cameras and the app "Digital Filter" will allow capturing with any and all camera setting separate for sky and foreground.
That's all fantastic information. Thanks heaps for watching.
Thanks for sharing. What made you spend the extra money for the 20mm Z mount lens, since you have the F mount?
Is the 20mm f1.8 for F mount not as sharp as 20mm Z mount? Kindly share what you think.
Yes it's a lot sharper than the F mount version. The Nikon 20mm f1.8Z is the best lens I've ever used.
Hi Richard, luv your work.
You didnt generally talk about using truley ultawide, eg 10mm
I have been learning my RF10-20mm f4 for 2 months now. Trust me, it can be difficult, but not impossible, to make great shots @ 10mm on this lens. Lots of learning to do. I call 10mm retilinear UUW ultra ultra wide. One benifit of 10mm is being able to aim the lens completely horizontal to avoid tilting buildings. Beware of stretched objects at the sides. 10mm is certainly worthy of astro landscapes, especially from a lookout or clifftop.
The other lens worthy of discussion is the RF85mm f1.2. Mine is tack sharp at f1.2 across most of the frame (I use tbis lens every week at f1.2 for all sorts of subjects, inc sports), and for milkywaycore, stopped down a little to f1.6 = sharp and no ca accross the entire frame. 2 sec shot @ lowish iso didnt need tracking.
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Thanks heaps for watching. That RF10-24 looks like an amazing lens. I guess the downside for astro landscape is the f4 aperture. There's no doubt the RF lenses are excellent quality.
Hello Richard, and thanks for the video. When you used the Sony lens on the Z6 (for stills), did you find it easier to focus as compared to the Z lens? I ask because I own the Z6ii and a few Z primes, but I have a REALLY tough time focusing on the stars and getting decent results. I am pushing 70 years of age, but in theory it should not be that difficult to focus these lenses. I thought maybe the Sony might have been easier. FWIW, I did purchase a used Nikon F 50mm 1.8G, and it is a bit easier to focus, but the coma is really bad even stopped down.
Thanks for watching David. The Sony lenses are pretty easy to focus I think. But to be honest when using native Nikon Z lenses I let the camera do the work of focusing. See this link: willchaney.com/2022/01/07/nikon-z-camera-easy-trick-to-focus-on-stars-and-the-milky-way/
Did you do a video comparing the 20mm/1.8 with the 14-24/2.8 @ 20mm?
I haven't done one directly. But I'll always prefer a fast aperture lens to a standard zoom for nightscapes.
Thank you Richard! I am wanting to buy a lens for the purpose of time lapses, and wondering whether I should try the new Sigma Z range at 16mm.
Thanks so much for watching. The Sigma 16mm f1.4 is a very good lens, but it is made for crop sensor cameras. You didn't mention which Nikon Z camera you're shooting with. But if you use this lens on a crop sensor camera the actual field of view is 24mm . .which is starting to get a bit tight for timelapse . . especially given the cropping that takes place.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thanks for pointing that out. I actually changed to a mirrorless Nikon Z7ii which is a full frame (thanks to you 😊), so the 16mm may not work. I have been struggling to find the right lens for time lapses, and unsure if I want to use the 15mm you have.
Yes it is a problem. Other people have had good success with the Laowa 15mm f2 but for me it's just not quite right. Viltrox are going to release a 16mm f1.8 for the Nikon Z system soon. They will be sending me one to test when that happens. I wouldn't use the Sigma 16mm on your Z7 though. @@moraltraveller1166
I use Viltrox AF 85mm/f1.8 Z on a Nikon Z8. I don't use tracker (as I don't have any).
Viltrox are making very good lenses.
I had both the Sony 14mm and 20mm f1.8 lenses. They both had bad coma/astigmatism in the corners with wings like a soaring wedge-tail eagle. I cannot unsee corner abberations and draw the line when stars have wings. I now have the Sigma 14mm f1.4 Art and crop if i need it a little narrower.
Yes that new Sigma 14 is a great lens for Sony. Sounds like you had bad copies of the Sony 14 and 20 lenses.
@@nightscapeimages.richard btw Your videos have inspired me to get more into milky way / light painting photography. Thank you !
@@nightscapeimages.richard Maybe they were bad copies but lenstip is also unflattering about these two lens' abberations. Only when stopping down to 2.8 did I find them usable.
WOW your the best at explaining the camera lens that will fit into our budgets Richard. I have always bought the better lens so I dont have to buy it twice. I actually save money on the long run. Cheers
Thanks for watching Frank. I think we've all leant that lesson over the years.
Thinking of trying to start with a viltrox 16mm 1.8
You'll love the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 lens.
@@nightscapeimages.richard I am going back to Nikon after having the d610 as my last one.
Deciding between ZF and Z6iii
Great review, asl always Richard. Hope you survived those mozzies.
Haha, yes I did survive the mozzies Eric . .although a few did last in the car for a day or two.
if i have APS-C camera should i buy a 16mm lense or 24mm lense? like you said in video around 20mm is a sweet point, i heard in crop sensor you have to multiply it by 1.6 and then it shows you a real angle. so when i have a aps-c i should buy wider lense like 16mm to get a reasult of ~24mm? and a 24mm to get ~38mm? a Or am i wrong? Greetings from Poland!
Yes the crop for Canon is 1.6 .. Nikon & Sony 1.5 I'd go with 16mm over 24mm in that case.
For full frame, there are a few companies, including IRIX that make a 21mm f1.4 lens.
For crop, Sigma makes the excellent 18-35 f1.8
Have you tried either of these?
Thanks for watching. I've not tried any Irix lenses at all. The Sigma 18-35 is also a very popular video lens.
Really enjoyed your video!!!
Thanks so much for watching Sam
At 12:27 (one heck of a photograph), the tree blocking the light with the storm clouds coalescing overhead, is that the moon or some other light source being blocked by the trunk? There also seems to be more light on the trunk and the tips of the branches than the branches just above the trunk; did you do this with a flashlight or in post?
That's a moon rise with a little car headlight overspill on the tree and grass. Single shot. Thanks for looking.
Great Video. Waiting for Benro Polaris long term review.
I'll get to that at some stage. I need to use it more.
Great info Richard, you were very influential in my original decision to purchase the Nikon 20mm f1.8 - hope you got that commission 😉.
In addition to the z6 I've been shooting a bit with the APSC Nikon Z30, mainly for star trails and timelapse and with a viltrox 13mm f1.4. Tbh, it is OK but I'm a little underwhelmed when I compare it to the results achieved by astro buddy Virat Shah on his 14-24 f/2.8 .
I will persist while I await the release of the Z6iii and maybe the Nikkor Z 35mm f/1.2 but that will be a budget stretch.
Thanks again for watching Greg. We have many great lenses to choose from these days which is fantastic. I'm going to get a Z6iii as soon as they are released ..!!! I'm not so interested in the 35mm f1.2 though. Maybe a bit too big and heavy for my liking .. same as the 50 f1.2
@@nightscapeimages.richard I suspect we might be in a long queue... time to wield your influencer influence 😉🤣
Well I don't know about that. Last time I contacted Nikon they didn't respond at all ..!!! @@GrowPhotography
@@nightscapeimages.richard Yeah, tbh I don't think marketing, especially in Australia, is their strong point 😕
For nightscapes I use Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, Sony 24mm 1.4 GM and Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical, all great Lenses which I highly can recommend. I forgot to mention the Zeiss Loxia Distagon 21mm 2.8 T'.
Yes they are amazing lenses. Thanks for your insights.
Thank you very much 👍
As always I appreciate you watching my friend.
Richard, is there anything “unethical” about shooting the sky at 50mm and the ground at 24mm - as long as you divulge the truth? I like to do this and I don’t lie about it. Do you feel this is inappropriate?
You can’t imagine how much you have taught me and I am doing very well with stock time lapse sales thanks to you.
You cheater! :D
I've thought about trying this too. Take like what, a 4 shot pano with the 50? to get enough sky for it? Pull that Milky way right on in, nice and large but then do all the landscape light painting with the 24mm on. I've got to try it. Only problem is, if you want to stack for noise, you've got to take all 4 pano shots, about 10 snaps each hahaha, stack 'em all, then stitch 'em for the sky background. I bet the results are worth it though.
I've been thinking about going out this year and taking sky shots of the Milky Way in all focal lengths including pano's to keep them to use as sky replacements so I can go out and take snow covered, night landscapes with the Milky Way. The sky is so overcast in the winter but the landscape is till pretty, so rather than stopping going out to take nightscapes, this could make for some super cool shots that you can't take here in reality.
Just because it's not "real" doesn't mean it can't be art, right? And even if it's not "real" it doesn't mean it's still not fun either, right?
Those who go outsides the "rules" and make their own art, are the ones who get noticed. ;)
I think as long as your not passing something off as something it's not, then it's not unethical....It's still art. It's still photography. It's still a fun hobby.
As far as I'm concerned that's perfectly fine Boyce. You can certainly do whatever you want with your own photography .... many people get carried away with ethics that don't really exist.
Only photographers ask or care about technique or how an image was made - most people do not care and enjoy an image for what it is. How many people ask an artist, say painter, what type brush he uses??@@nightscapeimages.richard
If you are using a 35mm at 1.4 do you focus on your subject or the stars? Or do you always have to blend the two images together to make it clear?
Well when shooting 35mm at f1.4 the infinity focus point will be a fair way from the camera so you'll most likely have to do 2 images with one focused at infinity and the other focused on your foreground. If your foreground is a long way from the camera as per a landscape then it may be possible to just do one image focused to infinity.
I have the Fujifilm X-T3 (APS-C) with the 16mm f2.8 and 35mm f2.0 lenses. Which would you recommend I use?
I think the 16mm lens would be the easier one to capture the stars. 35mm f2 is a great lens but on the Fuji it's closer to 50mm focal length and I think that's a little too narrow for most compositions. It can certainly be done and I have plenty of 35 and 50mm shots . .but it's a lot harder to get them.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Thank you so much for your help 👍🏼
I ise my Lawoa 12mm D-zero for time lapses and meteor showers. I have 20mmf/1.8 G, Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2 excellent and with the best focus ever and with DOF shown in a LCD at its top varying according to focal poin and apperture so even at the dark we know de minimal and maximum distance in focus, 35mm f/1.4 GM, Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 (extremely sharp), 70-200mm f/2.8, redcat 5.1 250mm f/4.9, William Optics GT 81mm (478mm with 1x flattner) and SVBony 854mm f/7.
You certainly have some excellent gear there Raphael. Thanks so much for watching.
hey Richard, hoping you can help. So, I shoot with a R3 and have been trying my hand at getting Milky Way shots and also shots of the comet. I'm trying to focus with live view (5x and 10x magnification) on a bright object (Venus) without any luck. I have tried 4 lenses now - Canon EF 20-35 f2.8L, Samyang EF 14mm f2.8, Canon EF 50mm f1.8 and Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8L (non IS) - what I am experiencing is I cannot get the stars to be a point source and any images to be sharp. I get an in and out of focus star (I've been using telescopes for over 40 years, so I know how to focus and what stars should look like when focused correctly) and then a very faint blob in between. None of these focus points, on ANY of these lenses, result in tight stars in final images.
I am getting very frustrated and to the point where I will just forget I - I am not enjoying it and it's just creating stress and anxiety for me. WTF is going on with my setup(s)? I usually shoot birds and will probably just forget about Milky Way imaging to be honest, it's just not enjoyable. There's an old adage - don't do something that you don't enjoy. I am just spending 30-60 minutes in the field screwing with manual focus without joy on each occasion. It is NOT fun.
Any help would be appreciated.
PS I may invest in a Bahtinov mask to suit my lenses (probably for the 50mm).
That's very strange indeed Dave. It shouldn't be that hard. Do you have image stabilization enabled . .?? That's been known to upset some systems with manual focus.
It seems your method is correct so I'm not able to offer any further solutions. The Samyang 14mm is notoriously difficult to get focused however.
@@nightscapeimages.richard no, no IS (none of these lenses have IS - the 20-35 is 28 years old, the Samyang doesn't have IS, the 50mm doesn't have IS and the 70-200 is the first EF lens in that zoom range and didn't have IS either).
I am having the same issue with all of the lenses. I am going to test this further and focus with the 50mm during the day on a distant land object and tape down the focusing ring so it can't move. And then test it with star images that night and see if they look good, and also test the live view and see what that looks like. AFAIK, live view doesn't have any focusing calibration, since focusing is controlled by the lens itself. And dioptre shouldn't be a thing either.
I did also try focusing by eye in the EVF although as you would know, that's not gonna be really accurate since the stars are so tiny. I also tried AF, but nada luck.
I know it shouldn't be that hard. I've been using telescopes since I was 10 (and I am now 55), and I have quite a few telescopes and eyepieces, so I know what inside and outside of focus look like on a star. I'm getting inside and outside focus with the lens/camera and in between, a faint bloated blob for the star. None of the positions are providing sharp stars. It doesn't help that my 50mm doesn't have a focusing range display. I was shooting at 10 seconds and f1.8. Dew not an issue, since it's in the low 20c here in Brisbane and both lenses last night (50mm and 70-200) were outside for ~40 odd minutes so should have adjusted to temperature anyway, with any dew disappearing. Not cold enough for dew anyway imho.
IBIS is turned off in Canon cameras if the lens doesn't have IS by the way Richard. You can't have IBIS if the lens doesn't have IS. It's a bit different from Sony and Nikon I believe.
I am really scratching my head and starting to get very frustrated with it all. I haven't tried any of my other cameras (1 more MLC, a Canon R10 and a bunch of DSLRs). I could re-test with them, but I do prefer to use the R3 since it's got the cleanest high ISO performance (of any camera on the market to be honest).
@@davepastern I had a guy this year at a workshop shooting nightscapes with an R3 .. he got very impressive results. I believe he was using the Canon 16-35 f2.8 EF mount and maybe a Sigma art 20mm lens.
@@nightscapeimages.richard it's a very good camera. I can't afford any new lenses (my priority is saving for a Canon EF 600mm f4 II lens for my birding photography). Birding photography is my first love. Astro is just me getting out of my comfort zone.
I have the 14mm F1.8 art for canon EF. Its amazing BUT heavy
Yes it's a great lens . .but as you say, heavy.
Sony 14mm is a fantastic lens ( am a Sony shooter) currently sits in my bag waiting for that aurora to happen.
Yes I think that's a common story. Alan. Thanks heaps for watching.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Is my pleasure to watch as I get that inspiration needed and to see what is possible here in this big country of ours. After-all you learn from masters and you are up there Richard.
In the short time I've had my Z6ii, I learned real fast, there is no substitute for Nikon Z S lenes.
Yes they are excellent that's for sure.