Milky Way Panorama Tips & Tricks

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • I've been shooting a lot of milky way panoramas lately and after chatting with a quite a few people regarding this topic I've decided to take a bit of a journey through my mindset and workflow.
    I hope you enjoy the video and join in the discussion down below.
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  • @treeman3663
    @treeman3663 3 месяца назад +7

    Richard Now show us in the field how to get a big pano

  • @carolelabrecque2799
    @carolelabrecque2799 3 месяца назад +1

    Again, quite a wonderful video, giving so much information. Pictures are amazing, as usual, my DEAREST ❤

  • @JerryDell-j3s
    @JerryDell-j3s 3 месяца назад +2

    Hi Richard! Thanks for the information. Is there any advantage to using a 50mm lens versus a wide angle lens? Love the examples you showed us. Take care, Jerry

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks Jerry. Well a 50mm lens will have a lot less distortion, but it requires many more images to create the same field of view. . however you'll have far more detail in the final result.

  • @kerrykroberts7809
    @kerrykroberts7809 3 месяца назад +2

    As usual, great content! You made me think -- when you said programs stitch more accurately when the image is bright - what if you over exposed the individual images along with raising shadow to stitch and then readjust back? Of course, files would need to remain raw or tiff to keep info.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Yes very good comments Kerry .. I love how you're thinking. I'm not too sure the programs will allow you to re-edit the raw details once they are stitched . .but I may be wrong. Maybe a half way point may work . .something that can be edited back to what is required even after stitching.

  • @wmclt5588
    @wmclt5588 3 месяца назад +2

    Would starry landscape stacker work

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Starry Landscape Stacker is designed to stack multiple images that are exactly the same . .so it doesn't do panoramas.

  • @MSACoachMike
    @MSACoachMike 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for this, Richard! I will try the overlap recommendation as I have run into issues only with night sky panoramas and only overlapping by 1/3rd. You may want to also try Luminar Neo’s panorama feature. They claim to be able to combine up to 100 images. I have successfully used it to combine 57 (daytime) images. (Vignette = vinn-yet)

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks a lot Mike. I've heard good things about Luminar but have never tried it.

  • @earlteigrob9211
    @earlteigrob9211 20 дней назад +1

    Rotate Camera around the Nodal Point. One of my in classroom photo instructors was complaining about Lightroom not doing a good job of stitching the images because he could see the seams. I showed him my panos that were rotated around the Nodal Point and they were perfect. He know nothing about nodal points before that day but I'm sure he fixed his technique after that. Good video BTW!!!

  • @TheMiniD3
    @TheMiniD3 3 месяца назад +1

    Another excellent tutorial Richard,
    I am a Mac user so I guess will have to look at different software in the future, my change from F mount to Z mount has reduced my bank balance to will have to wait a while :)
    But, a great tutorial in any case
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  • @francisbuckley3539
    @francisbuckley3539 22 дня назад +1

    Hi Richard, I was wondering if you can refocus on the subjects as you progress up the pano shots in a vertical pano. ie The near foreground, midground, and distant objects. Thanks for spending the time to produce these great videos.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  22 дня назад +1

      That would be technically possible Francis, but with a wide angle lens this may be unnecessary on many occasions . .and you'd have to make sure that any shots that include stars are in focus in the background.

  • @harveymanfrantinsingin7373
    @harveymanfrantinsingin7373 3 месяца назад +2

    You dropped some good tips here, so in turn, I’ll drop one for you: it’s pronounced “Vin-yet”!

  • @scottcluffmusic4577
    @scottcluffmusic4577 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video! I’ve enjoyed learning from you as I’m new to astrophotography. I did my first panorama tracked with a 50mm this past week. I noticed that in Lightroom my 50mm shots with 30% overlap have stitched very easily in Lightroom. I am considering getting a 20mm lens. I am wondering if the 20mm is harder to stitch compared to the 50mm due to some distortion? I’m looking at a 20mm for non pano shots for a trip on the coast but was thinking of using it for astro as well.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 3 месяца назад +2

      I like the longer lenses for panos. It takes more photos, but you get a better perspective and compressed (pulled in/large) Milky Way and just a much nicer pano than when using a wide lens. A 50mm is great for panos at night. 85mm for day. You can try an 85mm for night too but it takes some fast glass and a lot of shots! You'll really pull that Milky Way in though if you can get the photos in time.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks Scott. Yes I think the longer lenses with less distortion do stitch better but the 20mm focal length is wonderful for milky way photography.

  • @adampoll4977
    @adampoll4977 20 дней назад +1

    Affinity Photo now has better stitching results than before, better than CIE in some cases, plus astro-stacking ability.

  • @andreaboyle9435
    @andreaboyle9435 3 месяца назад +1

    Great tutorial as usual, Richard! I'm surprised you didn't mention having a set white Balance on your tips rather than the AWB setting. (That will surely get you into stitching problems!) I just wish I could find a source for Microsoft ICE. Wonder why they discontinued it?

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Yes I probably should have mentioned white balance for sure Andrea. I never shoot in Auto.

  • @johncarter591
    @johncarter591 3 месяца назад +4

    I was going to suggest the Microsoft Image software and Bang! You Show it :) My tip for the Microsoft Image Software is to export as a photoshop Doc and include all the layers as a PSB not a PSD as the files sizes are quite High and will exceed the 4gb limit of a PSD file ...

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes that's a good suggestion John, and particularly applicable when shooting full arch panoramas with lots of overlap.

  • @akhilsiby
    @akhilsiby 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for sharing these wonderful techniques. Can you please explain or make a video on how to shoot the two row panorama especially for the milkyway... what are the sequence to follow as the milkyway is constantly moving and the ground is stationary...
    Thanks in advance....

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching. Yes the sky is moving and that's why you need to shoot each frame quickly. The stitching software takes care of the alignment of both the sky and the foreground so it all comes out looking correct.

  • @flipper8652
    @flipper8652 3 месяца назад +1

    I enjoyed this vid, thanks for the tips and tricks. A quick question if i may. 'lens profile corrections' enabled or disabled before exporting from lightroom? great images by the way🙌

  • @dennisblack4444
    @dennisblack4444 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you Richard, I could not work out why I was having the issue of stretching at the top, I tried more rows but it didn't seem to help. Will try to download ICE if I can find it. Thank you again for an informative video Richard 👍

  • @davidaldenwebb
    @davidaldenwebb 3 месяца назад +1

    This is a fantastic introduction to nightscape panos. Imaging Composite Editor looks fantastic with one big problem; it isn’t available for Mac; can you suggest an editor for Mac please?

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      No unfortunately I don't think Mac have ever designed a pano stitching program David. You can use PtGui though.

  • @francisbuckley3539
    @francisbuckley3539 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks again Richard for your efforts. I did some pano shots recently but found it difficult to see the amount and position of the overlap of the frames. Would you happen to have a solution? Many thanks, Francis.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      As I mentioned Francis. It can be tricky when you can't see much in the viewfinder of the camera. In that case I estimate based on the lens focal length and err on the side of more overlap.

  • @bxg-px9wp
    @bxg-px9wp 3 месяца назад +1

    A quick question about multi row panos. Do you merge all images in one row first, then merge all images for the second row, and finally merge both rows? Or do you import all images from all rows and then let the software merge it all together? Thanks.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      If all the images have the same settings then I'll merge them all together in one hit. If I do a tracked panorama of the sky then I'll do that one separately to the foreground one.

  • @williemacdonald72
    @williemacdonald72 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video as always fella, some excellent tips. I had heard about Microsoft ICE before but wasn't sure if it was worth hunting it down but I am going to have a wee hunt for it. Now I just need to wait till mid August for darkness to return so I can out these methods into practice.

  • @d7000HD
    @d7000HD 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi there, great video as always. Here is a long question, if you shoot lets say a 2 row by 6 shot pano of the MW and you want carefull foreground subject lighting in each shot of the bottom row, you can't delay shooting the pano while you make multiple torch lit shots of each shot in the bottom row, as the stars will have moved too much and it will never stitch. At best you can torch light each shot in the bottom row during the 15s exposure and hope that you don't unrecoverably blow out the highlights with too much torch time, but I have done that several times, then you have to reshoot the whole pano again. Have you ever used a pano head and noted the angle of each shot in the bottom row on the first pass and then returned to the same angle of shot 1 and done 1 or more torch lit shots and so on for each shot in the bottom row. And then brought each set of bottom row shots into PS, aligned each set of shots, applied masks etc to get the image you want (e.g. stars from pass one plus torch lit stuff from the later shots) then export a final image for each bottom row shot and then stitched them with the top row shots?

  • @AndrewTilmouth
    @AndrewTilmouth 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi there, great video as always. Here is a long question, if you shoot lets say a 2 row by 6 shot pano of the MW and you want carefull foreground subject lighting in each shot of the bottom row, you can't delay shooting the pano while you make multiple torch lit shots of each shot in the bottom row, as the stars will have moved too much and it will never stitch. At best you can torch light each shot in the bottom row during the 15s exposure and hope that you don't unrecoverably blow out the highlights with too much torch time, but I have done that several times, then you have to reshoot the whole pano again. Have you ever used a pano head and noted the angle of each shot in the bottom row on the first pass and then returned to the same angle of shot 1 and done 1 or more torch lit shots and so on for each shot in the bottom row. And then brought each set of bottom row shots into PS, aligned each set of shots, applied masks etc to get the image you want (e.g. stars from pass one plus torch lit stuff from the later shots) then export a final image for each bottom row shot and then stitched them with the top row shots?

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  2 месяца назад

      Well I have done plenty of foreground panoramas separately from the sky pano and then blended them together. If I want to shoot the sky and foreground as one panorama then the easiest way is to use low level lighting so the lighting is consistent between all the shots. I have shot many panoramas with a flashlight, lighting each panel but that's a lot harder to get even light as you suggest.
      I never shoot multiple shots per panel for either foreground or sky. I never use a dedicated pano head but that may help to get the exact same overlap with each panel.

  • @madhatterbakery-artisanmad7631
    @madhatterbakery-artisanmad7631 3 месяца назад +1

    Unfortunately it isn't officially available on the Microsoft site anymore and some third parties offering downloads, seem a little risky to download. Anyone know of a safe download?

  • @cmichaelhaugh8517
    @cmichaelhaugh8517 3 месяца назад +1

    Very helpful! I’m going to get Image Composite Editor and try it out on some images that I’ve given up on in the past. Thanks!

  • @ScottBasu
    @ScottBasu 3 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic images! Yeah, I’ve been struggling with getting the Adobe SW to stitch my panos correctly. I’m happy to see that the Mercador (sp?) works well for you, as one of my brand new apps has this projection method! I did also download ICE awhile back, but I’d rather have a cross-platform solution TBH.

  • @markrbrichards
    @markrbrichards 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi Richard, could you please post a link to the ice download ? It would be most welcome. Thanks 🙏👍

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      I haven't found a current download link Mark as I've had it for a while. I'll keep looking.

  • @AstroRoad
    @AstroRoad 3 месяца назад +1

    Great breakdown Richard, had similar issues with multirow panoramas in Affinity Photo. Shame that Microsoft pulled the plug on ICE, such a solid and simple to use app.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks Dominic. Like most things related to astro . .the search for the perfect tools continues ..!!!

  • @blueman841
    @blueman841 3 месяца назад +1

    Is it better to start from the left or the right when doing the sequence shots. or can Lightroom figure it out no matter which side you start?

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Well the software does figure it out, and for smaller panoramas it doesn't matter at all. If you decide to do a very wide and high panorama it's often better to work it so that the portion of the sky you're shooting first is setting lower in the sky. By doing that you'll capture it before it gets too low in the sky. This depends which hemisphere you're in and what time of year it is.
      For example here in the southern hemisphere the milky way galactic core sets in the west later in the year. So it's best to shoot the lower portion of the sky first as that's going to eventually disappear under the horizon. This is particularly more important when doing long tracked panoramas.

  • @kikevallesquino6679
    @kikevallesquino6679 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice video. Thank you very much from Spain.

  • @ericwilkes1840
    @ericwilkes1840 3 месяца назад +3

    Another great and practical video Richard with heaps of good tips. It is a shame that Microsoft gave up on ICE, had huge potential. Thanks as always.

  • @amintriyuda
    @amintriyuda 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you very much Richard, Very helpful. Thank again from Indonesia 🇮🇩

  • @colinstalker
    @colinstalker 3 месяца назад +2

    Fantastic tutorial Richard 👌 Your knowledge and content help so many of us. Who would have imagined older software like I.C.E do such a great job.
    All the best mate 👍

  • @BrettHall-56
    @BrettHall-56 27 дней назад +1

    Awesome shots. Just getting started in astro and have been out a few times. Take a single pic no probs. Doing panoramic shots my pics all curl up at the sides and the horizon is not level. Tripod is level. Doing vertical shot pano and if I try to get foreground and milkyway core in as can be quite high in sky how do I fix this so horizon level please anybody

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  27 дней назад

      Hey Brett what software are you stitching the pano with ..???

    • @BrettHall-56
      @BrettHall-56 27 дней назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard Hi Richard LR I just found the ice software i think the one you use ill give that ago the very next time i do a pano

  • @StarScaperPhoto
    @StarScaperPhoto 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent tutorial Richard! Also ICE seems to be a fantastic alternative to PTGui. Good tip on the vignette midpoint slider there. Haven't come up with that one myself yet. Cheers from the hospital in La Palma, where I fortunately also shot some potentially spectacular pano's before breaking my leg 🤭. This tutorial will help get a better result 👍

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Oh no Jeroen . .I hope you are recovering well my friend. I suppose at least that will give you some editing time to work on images hopefully.

    • @StarScaperPhoto
      @StarScaperPhoto 3 месяца назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard thanks so much Richard! I hope I can edit some soon after surgery and being a bit more mobile. Your tutorial will definately help!

  • @andrewpye6371
    @andrewpye6371 3 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for sharing your insight here Richard, always a pleasure watching your videos! I agree that Lightroom/Camera Raw are limited in terms of pano capabilities, but there's a trick to work around the first issue you showed at 7:20 where the vertorama got badly distorted to the point of being unusable. The algorithm that Adobe uses for stitching seems to assume that the frames are laid out horizontally, not vertically, so rotating the individual images 90º (either direction) then stitching will often do a much better job - you just need to rotate the resulting image back to the correct orientation again (and turn your head sideways to evaluate the preview before confirming the projection etc. 😜). Of course, dedicated pano software with different projection options will always give more flexibility etc., but for someone looking to just get a vertorama stitched quickly and without needing to have additional software, it's a useful thing to try.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +2

      That's a great suggestion Andrew. I must give it a try. Appreciate you watching.

  • @akkarparkiamopas3401
    @akkarparkiamopas3401 3 месяца назад +3

    And once we go to track pano, it will be more challenge. I did a few couple years ago. Hard to do on the field and hard to do in post process imo. I would shoot track pano when we have a really good clear sky for long hours

  • @schattenseite
    @schattenseite Месяц назад +1

    Hi Richard, can you provide a link to the hydrogen alpha clip-in filter for the Nikon Z6 (or Z8 for that matter), please?

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  Месяц назад +1

      I'm not using a clip in filter. It's a camera modification .. I sent the camera to a clinic to have it done . .it's permanent.

    • @schattenseite
      @schattenseite Месяц назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard Thank you.

  • @TarrelScot
    @TarrelScot 3 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic images and an amazing "hidden gem" of a piece of software! A quick question regarding panoramas; If I shoot, say, a "vertorama"with a 24mm lens and end up with a stitched image of, say, 12mm field of view equivalent, does this mean I can get away with using a shutter speed that I would have used with a 12mm lens? (i.e to avoid star-trailling). The reason I ask is that I'd like to experiment with panoramas using my 24mm tilt-shift, using the shift function, but its max aperture is f/3.5 so it's a bit limited when it comes to light-gathering. TIA, and sorry if it's an obvious question.
    I'm guessing the answer will be somewhere in between. i.e the wider field of view of the final shot means I can get away with a longer shutter-speed, but the greater detail in the pano will mean star-trailling shows up a bit more readily.
    (The reason I'm asking you rather than just going and trying it, is that I'm in Northern Scotland in the height of summer. I'll need to wait till September before it's dark enough!😂)

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks so much Mark. Yes it's pretty much as you suggested. You certainly can shoot a little bit longer when shooting panoramas as the detail is spread further across the image. .but of course when you zoom in you will see the slight trailing.
      I do often shoot longer shutter speeds when shooting panos to get more light input.

    • @TarrelScot
      @TarrelScot 3 месяца назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard Brilliant. Thanks for the quick reply. Looking forward to giving it a go!

  • @RobsDIY
    @RobsDIY 3 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video! Been hunting for this info for a while thank you,
    Are you able to help with a place to purchase those Z \ V camera mounts? I’m in Perth but don’t mind shipping

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching Rob. I think you'll have to buy the Z/V plates from MSM. www.moveshootmove.com/products/z-v-platform-designed-with-alyn-wallace-preorder

    • @RobsDIY
      @RobsDIY 3 месяца назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard legend! Thank you

  • @YoBroz-ix5rq
    @YoBroz-ix5rq 3 месяца назад +2

    Thnx Richard. Again helpful and very much appreciated.
    Yo

  • @carloseortega
    @carloseortega 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much. I literally just discovered you this past week, in preparation for a new moon milky way session in Bryce Canyon. I've learned so much, yet i know I'm just starting. One thing i haven't seen answered in any video i have watched is the right order to take a pano you plan to stack to reduce noise.
    Are we supposed to take all the frames we plan to stack one after the other before we pan to the next conposition, or should we take the entire pano first and then go back and redo it for the total number of images per stack?
    What is the best practice here and can you point me to a video where you explain this? Thanks

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks so much for tuning in to my channel Carlos, I really appreciate it. If you plan on stacking your panels for a panorama.(Which I rarely do by the way) then you would always stack them on that single frame before you move to the next one. If you don't do that you'll never be able to align the exact shot later.
      I don't have a video specifically discussing this unfortunately, but just keep in mind that if you're ever stacking any image sequence then each of the images you intend to stack have to be exactly the same. Any variation will render them useless.

    • @carloseortega
      @carloseortega 3 месяца назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my comment/question.

  • @ArdonTurner
    @ArdonTurner Месяц назад +1

    Question ✋️. When shooting tje pano since im shooting movingvstart should i be shooting them in the direction they're going (left to right) or does that not matter while shooting??

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  Месяц назад +1

      Well it does make sense to maximize the time you have on location by shooting the portion of the sky first that may be getting lower quicker. I depends on where you are located in the world and how many shots you are going to take.
      If it's just a single row of maybe 7 or 8 images it really doesn't matter .. but if you need to shoot 20 or 30 images to get the complete coverage then it will matter more.

    • @ArdonTurner
      @ArdonTurner Месяц назад

      @nightscapeimages.richard thanks. Great vids btw. I've subscribed.

  • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
    @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 3 месяца назад +3

    Some good tips! Especially fixing the vignette before stitching, if you run into those dark lines. Slick.

  • @jeelansumaria5711
    @jeelansumaria5711 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for this Richard! Really helpful.
    Just wondering if you'd ever do a video on printing tips and tricks?
    Thanks!

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching Jeelan. I don't consider myself an expert in relation to printing.

  • @lactech27
    @lactech27 3 месяца назад +2

    Have some astro panoramas that didnt work for me because of the vigneting lines.. with your tutorial I will give a new try..thank you so much.. Like very much this video.😊

  • @clarerynhart3855
    @clarerynhart3855 3 месяца назад +2

    Thankyou Richard, this came at the perfect time, I have been failing to merge recently!!! I can't wait to try with this Windows software. Thankyou so much ❤

  • @ViratShah
    @ViratShah 3 месяца назад +2

    Happy Saturday Richard and another excellent Video for panoramas . I am a big fan of Microsoft ICE and a great software. Just came from an epic 7 days trip and capture multi-row panoramas every night..Should be fun to edit and you need to visit to WA soon.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks Virat. I'll be very keen to see what you come up with. No WA trip this year I'm afraid.

  • @ffoeguk
    @ffoeguk 3 месяца назад +2

    very interesting Richard some great points to remember, i am coming to OZ in a couple of weeks to Forest Beach QLD. Have you any Vlogs on setting up the Nomad in the southern hemisphere as i will be bringing one with me and it will be the first time use of a star tracker. Any help would be appreciated.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching. Have you seen this video. ruclips.net/video/seQiDJK2pg0/видео.html
      And this may help. ruclips.net/video/5D_n6ZtsZ4o/видео.html

  • @kimpayne5356
    @kimpayne5356 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks Richard, very informative as always. Will try some more panoramas , I just forget to do them so early in the year

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks Kim. Just remember that you don't have to shoot dozens of images to produce a very cool ,panorama image.

  • @geoffsharpe6456
    @geoffsharpe6456 3 месяца назад +2

    Good video Richard. You covered pretty much all you need to problem solve any panorama issue. ICE is a pretty solid stitching software that I use every now and then. 👍😁

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks Geoff. It can be a very complex thing if we really delve into it .. but simple is always good.

  • @andysuzierawlins5462
    @andysuzierawlins5462 3 месяца назад +2

    Don't know why Ms abandoned ice when it's such an epic program, these big companies can be very stupid

  • @shanekrajic7167
    @shanekrajic7167 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you! I’ve pretty much given up making night panoramas, exactly because of the warped stretching that killed them.

  • @mariopereira8261
    @mariopereira8261 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video on how to make and fix problems with panoramas, thank you Richard for sharing your knowledge acquired over the years. It's a pleasure to watch your videos, and especially to see your photos.

  • @Alien-mu7ex
    @Alien-mu7ex 3 месяца назад +3

    👍 I don't have the patience for recordings like this... that's why I prefer to watch you in a relaxed manner

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +2

      Everybody likes different things. I hopefully have something for everybody.

  • @Metragnome_Images
    @Metragnome_Images 3 месяца назад +2

    Found the software thanks Richard... way better than Lightroom

  • @robb7342
    @robb7342 3 месяца назад +2

    Another stellar presentation Richard that is spot on. I've been using ICE on the tracked backgrounds for a while now and I totally agree that its an excellent option. Does a much better job at aligning the stars and resolving the wide FOV distortion. Thanks!

  • @musiqueetmontagne
    @musiqueetmontagne 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video thank you Richard, some very useful information and wisdom in there. Cheers, Robert.

  • @RobGaleSpecialVideos
    @RobGaleSpecialVideos 3 месяца назад +2

    Great tips Richard, specially the vignette removal, I'm about to re edit a pic and try this, thanks so much, have a great weekend.

  • @klassenrick87
    @klassenrick87 3 месяца назад +2

    Cheers from Okanagan valley British Columbia 🇨🇦

  • @chrisross2916
    @chrisross2916 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks, Richard. I had totally forgotten about ICE! Great video.

  • @edkelly145
    @edkelly145 3 месяца назад +1

    Richard, I am new to Astro photography. Photopills says for the Z20mm f/1.8, which I own, they recommend no more then 5 seconds for star exposures. On your none -tracked shots, I see you using 15 to 20 seconds. Won't you get motion in the stars? For single photos or panos what is your recommendation for the 20mm f/1.8 Z lens.Thank You. Ed

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching Ed. Are you using a crop sensor camera . .?? For the Nikon Z6 series the photopills NPF says 13 seconds with the 20mm lens. But I will often go a bit longer to get a better exposure.

    • @edkelly145
      @edkelly145 3 месяца назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard Z8 body

    • @edkelly145
      @edkelly145 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nightscapeimages.richard Richard, won't you get moving stars or do you not care if there is a tiny bit of movement?

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      @@edkelly145 Yes but sometimes you have to compromise that to get a better exposure .. .and in turn less noise. To be honest no-one really notices slightly trailing stars unless you really zoom in.

  • @robertleeimages
    @robertleeimages 3 месяца назад +2

    I haven't done a pano for a while but Rarely rarely have had a problem stitching in ice, amazing isn't it how so many of the free programs do better than paid one's. As usual an excellent video sharing your knowledge Richard 👍

  • @GARY1951A
    @GARY1951A 3 месяца назад +2

    Great information, Richard! I have always struggled with Panos and editing! This helps!!!

  • @lesladbrook4508
    @lesladbrook4508 3 месяца назад +2

    Another brilliant tutorial Richard. I particularly love the Bay of Fires images 🙂

  • @patford9943
    @patford9943 3 месяца назад +2

    You are cruel Richard. It’s the middle of the afternoon and rain is moving in for tonight and tomorrow so I won’t be able to run out and try your tips. Just kidding! Thanks for the great tips and insights in another fantastic video!

  • @ddrsi4663
    @ddrsi4663 Месяц назад +1

    I managed to find an ICE download and it worked fantastic with a daytime pano. Wish me luck on some MW panos. Yours are brilliant. Thank you

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  Месяц назад

      That's fantastic. I love using it.

    • @peterdavies4052
      @peterdavies4052 Месяц назад +1

      I have tried to find a download of ICE with no luck. I would be very greatful if you could point me towards it

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  Месяц назад +1

      @@peterdavies4052 Try this link Peter: download.cnet.com/image-composite-editor-64-bit/3000-2192_4-75207152.html

    • @peterdavies4052
      @peterdavies4052 Месяц назад

      @@nightscapeimages.richard thanks so much for this Richard, and a massive thanks to you for your amazing youtube videos, they have been an inspiration to me and I’m sure thousands of others.

  • @davelindey8023
    @davelindey8023 3 месяца назад +2

    Nodal rail is imperative to combat the stitching concerns.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      It's interesting that the Atoll mounting bracket that I'm using these days brings the pivot point very close to the nodal point of the lens. The vast majority of my panoramas don't have very important objects close to the camera so it's less of an issue.

  • @DamienAirScapePhotos
    @DamienAirScapePhotos 3 месяца назад +2

    I went out last night to try my first Pano, I likely needed this video a day earlier 😅 we'll see 🤞

  • @robmacmillan8841
    @robmacmillan8841 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome vid Richard plenty of inspiration 🤙🏼

  • @leonfisher
    @leonfisher 3 месяца назад +2

    I don't have LR, but it's great to see your process.

  • @PhillipMcCallum
    @PhillipMcCallum 3 месяца назад +2

    Great subject, Richard, I'll have to watch again. Have a good weekend

  • @stevemeier7876
    @stevemeier7876 3 месяца назад +2

    MS ICE can be so hard to find.....I have used PTGUI for years and you are right its expensive....but you get free updates from them for 2 I think on pro version.....and there is nothing you cannot do.... If you luv astro you use PTGUI....but ICE does look really good if you can get it and only shoot astro occasionally......great vid Richard...PTGUI can remove the vignette also...

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 3 месяца назад +1

      I found it within a minute, searching google. Someone posted a link to cnet if it helps.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 3 месяца назад +1

      Google this:
      Microsoft ICE - No Longer Available? have a Download?
      Click the first result (dpreview). Then scroll down to the 4th comment. Look for cnet link.
      The 5th comment says it downloads older version. It doesn't anymore. You'll get latest v2.0.3
      from there now.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks Steve .. yes PtGui is excellent for astro panos.

  • @michaelbertelsen7994
    @michaelbertelsen7994 3 месяца назад +1

    Damn! Richard - absolutely awsome panoramas 😍 Beautiful 😍👌 top notch!!!…

  • @KaReEdCa
    @KaReEdCa Месяц назад +1

    Wow, Richard! I've seen your work before, but I don't think in a single shot...I'm blown away, and I think I'v found my new guru to follow for astrophotography. Thanks for this!

  • @alectrusler2114
    @alectrusler2114 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you Richard another great presentation.

  • @bruceandjaninemclaughlan8588
    @bruceandjaninemclaughlan8588 3 месяца назад +1

    Nailed it Richard! Great video. Panos.... something that I have struggles with in the exact areas you covered. Thanks. Bruce Mc.

  • @Hedgehogpeter1
    @Hedgehogpeter1 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank You Richard for another education.Keep going,please. I am looking forward to next portion.
    P.S. My daughter is in Sydney for one year and i told her about rum balls on your recommendation. After few weeks she told me-i got it,from Hungarian pastry shop. They were tasty 🙂

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      A good rum ball is very hard to find . .!!!! Thanks so much for your great support my friend.

  • @andysuzierawlins5462
    @andysuzierawlins5462 3 месяца назад +2

    Your pano tips got me started with mw panos Richard, thank you for your info.
    Recently Aaron king did avideo of a pano method, which works really well. 3c3o, 3rd, centre, 3rd, off, so you find a significant star, antares, put on right 3rd, then centre, then left third, then out of frame, by which point, next bright star should in ftames, same process. Guess it would be opposite for SH, because it was aimed at NH mw. Seems to work quite well. Also easy to remember when out in the field

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks again for your great comments Suzie. I think anything that assists to get enough overlap is a good thing.

    • @andysuzierawlins5462
      @andysuzierawlins5462 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nightscapeimages.richard p. S I've started doing the reduce vignetting in lightroom too, really helps, cheers Richard, always look forward to your videos. Thank you for showing your editing process too...... This nightscape photography malarkey is quite a faff when it comes to editing, lol

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      @@andysuzierawlins5462 Yes it's 50% of the whole thing for sure.

  • @bradleychewning9094
    @bradleychewning9094 3 месяца назад +1

    Richard, another helpful video for us learning how to do astrophotography. Thank you for all you do for us learners! When I take non-panorama pictures (fixed camera position), I have been taking 5-10 pictures and stacking with Sequator to get enough starlight in the edited product. I'm on the east coast US so Class 3 & 4 Bortle is the best dark sky I have. In this video you are only using a single picture for each movement of the camera. I had been thinking I needed multiple pictures at each camera movement.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for tuning in Bradley. I rarely stack panoramas but you can do that . .however the key to shooting panoramas is to take the images as close as possible to each other to help the stitching software perform better. Obviously if you're shooting multiple frames for each panel of the panorama .. that will take some time.

  • @johncallery814
    @johncallery814 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Richard. Just got back from shooting some Milky Way panoramas. I ran into the problem with stitching making those funny vertical lines. So after watching your video I am adjusting the vignette settings to approx. Amount +50 and and 0 Midpoint. This is a great solution. I'm stitching in PT Gui and not getting those vertical lines / aberrations.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Yes it's a problem we have all encountered from time to time John. Thanks for watching.

  • @josealeman8082
    @josealeman8082 3 месяца назад +1

    Great Tutorial! For sure I will try ICE and the manual vignette adjustment.
    You "hit" the two most important problems people have when stitching panos (finding the correct looking projection-for FREE and getting rid of those devilish vignette lines).
    Thanks Again!

  • @stevephelps6962
    @stevephelps6962 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Richard, your generous and helpful approach to sharing your experience and knowledge is greatly appreciated and inspiring....and I'm sure many others feel the same way I do...

  • @Trevs.Photography2446
    @Trevs.Photography2446 3 месяца назад +2

    Hi Richard, just downloaded the ICE program to test it out. What a ripper of a little program, easy to use and great results. Can’t believe Microsoft no longer support it. Really looking forward to the episode on how to merge and process tracked panorama. Keep up the good work.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Glad it was helpful to you Trevor. I've loved using it.

    • @madhatterbakery-artisanmad7631
      @madhatterbakery-artisanmad7631 3 месяца назад +1

      Trevor, could you please share where you can download ICE from .... cheers 😀

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад +1

      @@madhatterbakery-artisanmad7631 Try here: download.cnet.com/image-composite-editor-64-bit/3000-2192_4-75207152.html?ex=RAMP-2070.2

  • @paultutton9443
    @paultutton9443 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Richard, some really useful tips here 👍. I have used ICE in the past and liked the wide choice of projections, but for some reason hadn't twigged that you can then drag the perspective to your liking 15:17 - a real takeaway for me! Super images as per 👏.

  • @Blinsaff
    @Blinsaff 3 месяца назад +1

    With the amount of money Adobe charges for their products you would think they would have managed to work out how to merge panoramas correctly..
    Awesome stuff, great tips, as usual!

  • @bernhardjost
    @bernhardjost 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi Richard, great tutorial about alternative stitching software. Concerning the vignette issue: On Nikon Z cameras you should put 'Vignette Control' to 'High' in the shooting menu when using native Z-lenses. On older bodies with F-mount lenses these settings would only affect JPEG images. But now they get baked into the integrated lens correction profile which is then applied in Lightroom

  • @julieclark5779
    @julieclark5779 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you Richard, I’ve been thinking about trying to shot Pano’s. You’ve inspired me to try🙂

  • @dhg1960
    @dhg1960 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video Richard and I loved all of the pano. Like you, in the past I struggled using PS & LR and came across ICE. I too found it to be one of the best options and free of charge as well.

  • @StevenWesson
    @StevenWesson Месяц назад +1

    Great tutorial and easy to follow. You make it very clear and don't rush the process. Just what I needed and will follow your processes.

  • @manjul1966
    @manjul1966 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Richard. Always pick up fantastic tips & tricks: particularly the Vignetting correction was very productive. Much appreciated

  • @DeanHuppatz
    @DeanHuppatz 3 месяца назад +1

    Great timing... I was struggling with light room stich of a 2 row pano last night, looking for other options well past midnight without success.
    Then i wake up this morning to see your video on my feed!!!
    Love all the practical info you give.
    Would love to see a similar video for tracked pano's at some stage too.

    • @nightscapeimages.richard
      @nightscapeimages.richard  3 месяца назад

      Thanks so much for your comments Dean. Tracked panos are a lot more difficult to edit and shoot but not a lot different in concept.

  • @uhaggar
    @uhaggar Месяц назад +1

    Thanks so much Ruchard, I've had a number or Panos I could not get to stitch well, I have tried the Microsoft Image editor and it has done the trick, both around 30 image multi row panos, I'll now be a lot more confident and will give these large panos a more serious effort thanks again, Glenn 👌

  • @dmystify1381
    @dmystify1381 3 месяца назад +1

    That was good cobber,nice n easy to follow on,no bs approach.Thanku for your efforts.💯

  • @andrewdoyle19
    @andrewdoyle19 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks so much for all that information, I have a reason to dig up Microsoft ICE now!

  • @nicoheise_de
    @nicoheise_de 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much. I always learn something new watching your videos. Especially the trick to manually compensate for vignetting. Had the same problem in the past and never found a good solution. Please never stop making videos. Love your images and your channel❤ Greetings from Germany, Nico

  • @abroomby
    @abroomby 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video Richard, as always we all pick on one or two things, the vignette fix was a great tip, thank you. :)

  • @nightscapeodyssey.mattclarke
    @nightscapeodyssey.mattclarke Месяц назад +1

    Love your work Richard! Definitely an inspiration in the astrophotography world!

  • @PentaxLife
    @PentaxLife 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the tips and tricks. We don't have quite the scenery.
    Yes, you do and that beautiful arch of the Milky Way. I do miss that.

  • @donmckie5285
    @donmckie5285 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi Richard, a big thank you for the tip on panoramas. Love your channel.