Man I got to say I watch a lot of repair videos and you did a really really good job with the camera lighting the angles the step by step instruction you don't miss a step man I appreciate that. Appreciate all your care when it comes to making these videos. Bravo!!
Good job Sir, I have an old xp 800 but it gives me a lot of fun, (two strokes will never die), and I'm trying to learn everything about it, thank you for teaching us, greetings for Argentina.-
Do it . I bought one to rebuild my pump , and also car transmissions . I always brought my transmission pressing jobs to a friend of mines shop. About time I spent $150 , and bought my own. You really need the seal and bearing pressing tools, they worked great .
It’s interesting how many times we’ve used the pump after we bought it. We thought it would be used very rarely, but there have been lots of repairs that required it. Thanks for your comment.
Great job showing and telling, how much do you think one of them jet pumps are now days. I need one one of these days, if you can reply me back I wood thank you for for telling me. You the jet pump rebuilding man, well see you next time see ya bye.
We do rebuild pumps for friends and people who live nearby, but it is not our business to have people ship their equipment to us for fixing. Best to find a local shop that can do it for you, if you cannot do it yourself. Good luck.
Amazon. Something like this: www.amazon.com/Dragway-Tools-Hydraulic-Plates-Bearings/dp/B003VZYA2K/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=bearing+press&qid=1572731235&sr=8-11
Another Great Video. I have a Pro tip that won't help many, I'm a retired Professional wrench and I now live on the Gulf Coast in a house on Stilts with a One Car Garge under 1000 Feet from the Shoreline, I have no space for a Shop Press not to mention that the Corrosion here is horrendous. I just happen to have a S.-O. CJ Puller Set that I purchased Piece by Piece over Decades from the Tool Truck with weekly payments. The CJ-2002 is a good Starter Set (Costs way more than a Shop Press BTW) and may be available Used? A Pair of Longer Jaws and a Longer Screw would need to be added to be able to Rebuild a Jet Pump however. My point is that it is possible to Rebuild a Jet Pump without a Shop Press. Randy AKA randog311
We try to keep our videos as short as possible, so whenever we've done something before we give a link to that video (see ruclips.net/video/PgUhvw4Dpgo/видео.html). Thanks for your comment.
We try to keep our videos as short as possible, so whenever we've done something before we give a link to that video (see ruclips.net/video/PgUhvw4Dpgo/видео.html). Thanks for your comment.
@@3ftDeepChannel Love SBT, I've been a dealer since the beginning. NEVER had an SBT engine failure. NEVER ! As a technician and Expert, It is Your responsibility to EDUCATE your Clients on PWC CARE, USE, and MAINTENANCE!
So I have a 2007 RXT 215 and I'm 99% sure the pump bearings are bad/have failed because the impeller spins freely and doesn't "stick" like a normal greased bearing would. I'm debating rebuilding it but being 17 years old I'm probably better off just replacing the whole thing wouldn't you think? I'm in a pickle trying to find a replacement and would like some insight/advise of which route to go and/or any recommendations for a replacement pump. Thanks! Also this video was super helpful and answered a lot of my questions I had about rebuilding my pump!
As long as you have the tools and patience, a 17-year-old can do it. Mechanics is just like cooking: just follow the instructions in perfect detail. If you’re going to tackle these types of jobs, it’s highly recommended to get a Service Manual for your machine. It is much cheaper to rebuild it, and you can learn a lot while you do it. Just make sure you’ve got all the tools (including torque wrenches) to do the job. SBT makes replacement pumps that are reliable and much cheaper than Sea-Doo’s OEM pumps. Buying the tools is a good investment, if you’re going to continue with repairs and maintenance yourself. Good luck!
@@3ftDeepChannel I bought the service manual for it and my brother has a press I can use. I just don't want to mess it up and then I wasted my time and money when I could have just replaced the whole thing.
@@3ftDeepChannel also it looks like the sbt pump doesn't come with the cone. Do I need to fill the cone with grease before reassembling it with my impeller?
You can get the cone from Sea-Doo. They’re not that expensive. Or, you can reuse your old one if it’s still in good condition. In recent Service Manuals, they no longer state to add grease into the nose cone. That’s probably because it never went anywhere, anyways. We just normally make sure it’s completely covered and add some more, but we don’t put any into the cone.
A very good video indeed. But I have a problem. When I try to loosen the nut, the only thing that comes loose is the impeller. I don't understand how I can make the nut come off and not the impeller?
What are the exact tools you use to push the bearing, shaft and seals out of the pump. Looked on you site but I don't see the one you used and don't want to order wrong ones
They are bearing pushers. You’ll need to get hold of a service manual for your machine and confirm the right part number, as they vary between machines. Good luck.
Nice video, wondering if the jet pump can move in and out, are the bearings knackered? Mine makes a sort of rattle sound at idle. Shaft has side to side play as well
Today I saw your very instructive video and tried to find the tools on your page using the link and it doesn't let me see them. Could you tell me where I can buy them? 2011 Sea doo GTI LTD 155. Thanks and regards.
Great video! When pressing the seal in, are you bottoming out the seal in the bore or the tool on the face of the pump? I'm getting ready to rebuild the pump on my 2006 RXP 215 and don't want to spend the money on the custom tooling, if I don't need a stop to set depths.
Great video. Perfect! I was wondering if you can give me advise. My 2008 ski run well yesterday for 3 hours. Today, after 20 minutes, of low speed riding a grinding noice started. I could here it from 40 yards away. Can a shot pump bearing cause that? Any other suggestion what to check?
Yes, a shot pump can cause that. I would not even start your machine until the problem is resolved. First check the pump intake (through the intake grate) and see if anything is stuck in there. That is the most likely issue. If the intake and pump is clear, pull the pump and check it out thoroughly. If the pump is in good shape and you have a supercharger, it could be a bearing/washer failure. Do you have a supercharger?
3ftDeep , it is a GTX 155 without a charger. I am about to order a new bearing kit. Is QEM the way to go or can you recommend an after market set? Do you have a discount code for your page. I need to order the tools needed for the bearing change.
@@guenster8881 OEM is the way to go for us with those types of components. Did you confirm the bearing is shot? We greatly appreciate that you're considering going through our store, but unfortunately we don't have a discount code. Go with the best price on the OEM part you can find. You'll need an impeller removal tool, and a bearing press. Good luck.
Hello an awesome videos as everybody else has said. I removed the main bearing out of my pump unit just as you did and when I pressed the shaft out the inner races came out of the main bearing. So I end up with three pieces, the outer race with the ball bearings inside and then the two inner races. Is this how it's supposed to be or is the bearing supposed to stay in one piece. Thank you very much for any info you can offer on this. I don't want to buy a new bearing as this one looks like it's in perfect condition but I'm not sure if they're supposed to come apart into three pieces. Thanks again
Thanks for the kind words. When you press in/out a bearing, you must always press on the outer ring as there is very little material holding the bearing together. When we pressed the shaft out, we placed the bearing over a hole so the inner and outer rings were supported by the plate as the shaft was pressed through. If your bearing came apart, it needs to be replaced. Good luck with your project!
@@3ftDeepChannel yes i understand that but when you try and loosen the shaft with the impellor tool wont the impellor loosen off first? Man thanks - you can remove the shaft with the flange nut on and the hold shaft in vice and use spanner on the nut?
Ah, I see what you're asking now. Sorry for the delay in understanding. If I recall it works because the flange nut isn't on as tightly as the impeller.
Thanks for the Great video. I think I need to rebuild the pump on my 2018 seadoo wake 155. It's got a distinct whining sound that my buddies ski had before his bearing exploded on his spark jet pump. However I'm having issues finding the parts and tools I would need to do the job. Any recommendations? Thanks
We stick with OEM parts for the pump. I would highly suggest contacting a Sea-Doo dealer for those. As for the tools, you can find those on Amazon or eBay. We make it a little easier by linking to some of the tools on our website: 3ftdeepsports.com/store/ Good luck.
@@3ftDeepChannel thanks for the quick reply. Really awesome how you make a point to respond to people. I'm gonna like and subscribe so I can support a great content provider.
Love the video. Doing the exact same sequence right now. But what are the odds that the wear ring is going to "pop out" like in this video? How long was the pump in the freezer - like 3 hrs or so?
@@3ftDeepChannel Thought I would report back. My impeller is out for rebuild and I had looked at the wear ring and decided it was fine given the hassle of replacing it I've watched in other videos. So I put the pump into my freezer for 4 hours with the wear ring facing down. Went to pull the pump out and the wear ring simply fell out - easier than your video LOL. So thanks!
What kind/brand of pump grease are you using? The seadoo brand one is yellowish. And why do you recommend replacing the cone screws? Great video by the way.
I use the Sea-Doo grease, but Chris uses standard marine grease. We haven't seen any difference (yet). The service manual says to replace the cone screws, so I always do. Chris never does, but then again his nose cone fell off once. He doesn't blame the screws, but I do. Good luck and thanks for the comment!
Hey mate how you doing? Got a question for you...on the typical 90s seadoo sportster how much water does the venturi push up from jet for cooling? Obviously it would depend how good the wear ring is but would it be as much as a garden hose would push out? Just doing some calculations for my Subaru impreza project..will most likely be running it through a heat exchanger though. Anyway take care.
Gee, we really don't know. We don't want to venture a guess and make a mess of it for you. I suggest contacting BRP directly. Maybe they'll know. Good luck.
Can we get some part numbers for these special tools you are using (bearing pushers). I see you used 2 different ones. Are these tools the same for a 2006 supercharged GTX? Thanks
Hello Cody, You can find most of the tools we use at the following URL: 3ftdeepsports.com/store-tools-specialty/ . As Sea-Doo change parts over time, we can't confirm what tools will work for your machine. We suggest getting hold of a service manual for your machine and check what tools are needed. You can then find your specific one on our website at the link I just gave you. Good luck and safe riding.
We normally change the grease only if water gets into the pump, or when we take the pump apart. When checking for water during the normal maintenance procedure, we just normally top it up with fresh grease. Thanks for your comment.
So I see many rebuild kits for the jet pump. I am looking to just replace the o rings and the grease on the impeller bearing. I cannot find the o-rings and the locking screws to purchase anywhere. Do you have a specific place you source parts from?
We only get those parts directly from Sea-Doo. If you go to their website, you can order the parts directly from Sea-Doo.com. Unfortunately, I'm away from my computer for the next few days, so I can't give you the link. Good luck.
The 2016 Gtx manual says to add only a thin layer of grease to the o-rings of the jet pump cover and no grease into the cover anymore. In spite of all do you recommend to add more grease ?
I think the reason it says that is that the bearing grease is so thick it doesn’t flow out of the cone, anyway. That’s our observation. So, it’s a waste of grease. It’s important that you pack the grease where the bearings and other components are, though. Good luck.
You can find lots of tools, etc. on our Amazon eStore at 3ftDeepSports.com, but here's a link directly to the tool that should work: www.amazon.com/dp/B00KI367F6/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=3ftdspor-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=cc83089038fcfa67c1b51091362403f9&creativeASIN=B00KI367F6
Should I remove the flange nut first and then the impeller? I am not trying to rebuild the pump my bearings are good, just trying to put in a new wear ring.
If you’re just going to change the wear ring, you may not need to do either. Check out our other video here: ruclips.net/video/axU-9Wi_Y-E/видео.htmlsi=_2irTSmzrtYKQo2d
Are you using the Lucas bearing grease to fill the pump and cone? I just replaced my pump grease with OEM stuff and it was more of a yellow than the blue in the video.
It is different so we can’t recommend the substitution. I know it’s hard to find, but you should be able to find some after a while. We used to sell it on our Amazon eStore before it got shut down. You could also call your Sea-Doo service center and ask them what they recommend. Good luck.
Do you use the same bearing/seal pusher you used in the video for the new version of the oil seal. I can’t get the old style anymore and the new ones look like there are not as wide as the old ones. Any idea on this? Thank you. Part number 271002071 has superseded part number 293200086 and they are quite different.
We have different pushers for different bearings and seals. It’ll also depend on your unit so check with the tool supplier (SBT?) to make sure it’s exactly the right one for your system.
That's a very good question and you'll get a different answer from different people you ask. My feeling is that it was made by the engineers who design the machines to be a "sacrificial" part for a good reason. When the ring interacts with the impeller something's got to give, especially if something hard is stuck in there. So my feeling is if your wear ring is stainless steel, your impeller would wear down much quicker than if it was plastic ...and that's an expensive item. So, I stick with nylon wear rings and replace them periodically. Thanks for your comment.
Could you help please, iv built my pump using this video which was great. However I have 2 o rings left over from the kit, can you think what they will be? Not the venturi small ones.
Sorry for the delay, I was traveling. They make those kits for multiple machines across multiple years, and the configurations of the pumps change slightly. So, if you didn’t notice those O-rings in your pump system, it is likely they are for a different machine or different year.
They didn’t powder coat the pumps in some older models. Some pumps are so heavily corroded that they actually lose all of the powder coating. I think the former is the case here.
Why you no use the power of hot and cold when doing all that, stuff would just slide together without having to press or at least without using great force! It makes me and baby Jesus cry when people do not use the natural power of science. But good video none the less, it would be a great help to the new mechanics or new water craft people out there. A++ for guys like you making this stuff.
Well, in fairness we do put the wear ring in the freezer (see 5:26) to help out ...although it works even better sometimes if the entire pump is put in the freezer. Thanks for your comment.
@@3ftDeepChannel Putting the entire pump in the freezer works great for removing the old wear ring; but for installing a new one you heat the pump to expand it and cool the wear ring to shrink it.
You Sir have provided a great video This is exactly what I need done!! Can I send my pump to you for a quick fix?? I don't have the tools or skill set to get this done. Local repair shop said $1200!!!
I removed the sear clip and tried removing the seal but the first layer just crumpled.. do you think I could just press the shaft out with it still in without damaging the shaft?
Yup you don’t have to take that first seal out (the black rubber one) I just removed the circlip and pressed it all out. My shaft is different then yours though. I have the shaft then the sleeve (which is removable) and mine are in perfect shape. Even the bearing! But going to replace everything anyways. Thanks again!
Hello !! I want to ask a question. 2013 Sea-Doo GTX 155 power is lost and does not start from the start button, there is no sound signal LCD CLUSTER does not show anything what could be the reason?
Likely power supply. Check the battery voltage. You should have well over 12 volts (probably 12.5v). If that’s ok, then it’s likely an issue with a wire, most likely a ground wire. Make sure the connections to the battery are secure, too. Good luck.
I have a 2017 seadoo gtr-x 230 I just put new bearing grease from the shop where the flange nut is and also in the cone. Question is, is it ok to apply that same grease where the drive shaft enters the impeller as well as in the boot or is triple guard grease the way to go? The amount of grease from factory as I took it apart seemed to be insufficient to the amounts posted in your video which I thought was odd. Around the splines of the drive shaft and inside the boot had rust in the thin layer of grease that wiped off thankfully but trying to prevent that or any rust in the future.
Triple Guard grease is definitely the way to go. I don’t know how it’s made, but that stuff sticks like crazy …even in salt water. That’s what the Service Manual says to use and we’ve found it to be excellent over the years. The Manual also seems to be getting away from putting bearing grease in the nose cone, but we still add some anyways. Good luck.
@@3ftDeepChannel Thank you! Triple guard grease in the boot which in turn is where the drive shaft enters impeller as well correct? Also where can you find the manual? I purchased mine new but I misplaced the manual it came with.
The Triple Guard Grease is just supposed to go (generously) directly on the splines of your driveshaft. The manual suggests Loctite 438 to go inside the driveshaft boot/plastic guard. You can probably find a Service Manual for your machine here: brpmanuals.com/seadoo-manual.htm. An Owners Manual can be downloaded from Sea-Doo's website. Good luck.
My manual doesn’t mean toon triple guard grease. Only mentions JET PUMP BEARING GREASE (P/N 293 550 032) AKA XPS Grease I take it this isn’t as good as triple guard grease or is it the same. Any type/brand of recommendation or they all the same.
Hi 3ftDeep, I would like ask you if it's possible to replace the LOCTITE 767 by another product ? Because it's impossible to find it in France . Many thanks for you reply ;)
We have a similar problem here. I suggest you check out Permatex and make an inquiry to them regarding the equivalent product to use. I’m sure they have one. See: permatex.com
Hi, nice videos! You think it could be good to lubricate the shaft when you put it into bearing and the bearing when you put in into pump housing? In case, with what? Thanks
So my 2013 155 that I have owned since new has never had a pump rebuild. It currently has 1045 hrs on it. its only run in fresh water and I never sucked up anything bigger than a small sticks that I could clear out on its own. I check under the impeller cover when winterizing and I have never seen any water, nor is the grease milky, seals still look okay. Should I be rebuilding it as PM? I have read online that some people say every 200-300 hrs but that means I would have rebuilt it like 5 times by now. Am I just playing with fire by riding with this many hours without rebuilding?
That’s a great question. If it seems to be working perfectly, and there is no water intrusion at all, then it may be that it can work perfectly well for another 500 hours. I don’t recall anyone ever going that long without an issue. Next time you’re in the area remove it and check the bearings for any play, as they are bound to wear out soon. Good luck, and thanks for your comment!
What would be the symptoms to let you know you need to have your jetpump rebuild ? I cannot get pass 10 mph even at full throttle rpm rev high. The only time i can get it to go is when there is only 1 to 2 people (normal size) on max then it goes to 40-45 mph
That would be a symptom. Check the clearance between the edge of the impeller and the inside of the wear ring. It should only be about a millimeter. If it’s more than one and a half millimeters, you should probably replace the wear ring. You can check the condition of the pump without taking it off by taking the impeller cover off and looking for water inside. It doesn’t guarantee there are no problems, but if there is water you need to pull the pump and check it out thoroughly. Of course, before you do anything you should check to ensure that the intake grate is clear of any debris. Good luck.
I removed my jet pump, looks like the bearing is bad due to water intrusion and no grease. Is there any clever way to do this without a press? I suppose I could buy a cheap one, but they’re pretty darn big, not sure I want one in my small house, and some rebuild shops only charge about $120ish labor anyway. Thoughts?
If you use the right-fitting bearing tool, you could use a hammer and tap it in/out. But you need to be very, very careful not to destroy the bearing during installation. Good luck.
Just tried this, completely scored the pump wall pressing bearing in. Then the double seal tore pushing it into the housing. Definitely not as easy as it looks.
Crikey! We done the process a few times and haven’t done such damage, but we appreciate you warning others to take good care when doing this procedure.
My hull filled with water on idle and when I took it into the dealer I'm being told the pump bearing went and caused water to blow back through the carbon seal. Does this make sense? Apparently carbon seal is fine but issue was with the pump. I'm not sure I understand how a pump bearing coukd cause your hull to fill up.
Yes, it does. I had the same failure while on a long trip to an island. The pump is helping to hold the drive shaft in place. When it fails catastrophically there may not be enough pressure against the carbon ring and the seal will no longer be there. On my old machine when I was revving the engine water was coming in a forceful spray. That's why it's critical that we maintain our pumps! Sorry for the delayed response, but I just found your comment today.
this guy knows how to implement music in a vid. Great job not letting it over power the video!
Man I got to say I watch a lot of repair videos and you did a really really good job with the camera lighting the angles the step by step instruction you don't miss a step man I appreciate that. Appreciate all your care when it comes to making these videos. Bravo!!
Thanks a lot! Comments like yours really help us to stay inspired to make these videos.
@@3ftDeepChannel yeah definitely! Keep up the great work!
You can really tell a professional from an amateur! Not a single word, but easy to follow directions! Great job 3 feet deep!!
Thanks!
Now this guy knows how to make a video.
Holy cow this video was so, hyponotizing to watch!!!! And relaxing too!!! Thank you so much!!!
A totally professional shade-tree mechanic job. Perfectly done sir!
Thanks!
Super clean work man. I'm trying to learn everything I can about my Seadoo and this was very well done. Keep it up. Thanks!
ahh the smooth running sound of a fresh serviced pump. very satisfying
Now this is how you make a "how-to/help" video! Great job.
Now I need one of my model.
SWEETNESS : a great vid to follow ,no bs just fact & torques # Thank You
Quality video! Make sure to watch any pre-roll ads to support these guys!
Good job Sir, I have an old xp 800 but it gives me a lot of fun, (two strokes will never die), and I'm trying to learn everything about it, thank you for teaching us, greetings for Argentina.-
Good luck with your machine, Ricardo.
Best video I have seen thus far on RUclips.
Outstanding Sir
Thanks, Chris! Comments like this really help to motivate us to create this content! Safe riding.
Fantastic video. Love the closeups! Makes me want to go buy a press.
Go for it. They’re fun for the whole family!
Do it . I bought one to rebuild my pump , and also car transmissions . I always brought my transmission pressing jobs to a friend of mines shop. About time I spent $150 , and bought my own. You really need the seal and bearing pressing tools, they worked great .
It’s interesting how many times we’ve used the pump after we bought it. We thought it would be used very rarely, but there have been lots of repairs that required it. Thanks for your comment.
Great job showing and telling, how much do you think one of them jet pumps are now days. I need one one of these days, if you can reply me back I wood thank you for for telling me. You the jet pump rebuilding man, well see you next time see ya bye.
We do rebuild pumps for friends and people who live nearby, but it is not our business to have people ship their equipment to us for fixing. Best to find a local shop that can do it for you, if you cannot do it yourself. Good luck.
Great videos you guys have helped me out a lot of time with your videos doing things my self thanks
Thank you for all the help! I appreciated your video
Awesome just when I'm about to do it myself. You make a Video! Thanks guys
Thanks for the video! Helped me easily tackle the pump rebuild on my GTI
Glad we could help! Safe riding.
That is the best video on RUclips! Great job.
Thanks very much!!
magnificent work. Thank you.
Those pressing tools make the whole job look like a dream. Where can I get those?
Amazon. Something like this: www.amazon.com/Dragway-Tools-Hydraulic-Plates-Bearings/dp/B003VZYA2K/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=bearing+press&qid=1572731235&sr=8-11
Harbor freight.
What an excellent presentation
Thanks!
Awesome video layout! Thanks for sharing!
Another Great Video. I have a Pro tip that won't help many, I'm a retired Professional wrench and I now live on the Gulf Coast in a house on Stilts with a One Car Garge under 1000 Feet from the Shoreline, I have no space for a Shop Press not to mention that the Corrosion here is horrendous. I just happen to have a S.-O. CJ Puller Set that I purchased Piece by Piece over Decades from the Tool Truck with weekly payments. The CJ-2002 is a good Starter Set (Costs way more than a Shop Press BTW) and may be available Used? A Pair of Longer Jaws and a Longer Screw would need to be added to be able to Rebuild a Jet Pump however. My point is that it is possible to Rebuild a Jet Pump without a Shop Press. Randy AKA randog311
Thanks for the tip, Randy. Sounds like a good option for someone who doesn’t want the bulk of a larger press.
Please tell others or sell how to make vids. Great help. Thanks
Great video you did a good job it would ben nice to see the pump removal out of the ski as well.
We try to keep our videos as short as possible, so whenever we've done something before we give a link to that video (see ruclips.net/video/PgUhvw4Dpgo/видео.html). Thanks for your comment.
We try to keep our videos as short as possible, so whenever we've done something before we give a link to that video (see ruclips.net/video/PgUhvw4Dpgo/видео.html). Thanks for your comment.
At my shop, they never come off this easy 😂 Map Gas baby, no beating Deep Heating!
we were lucky that time.
@@3ftDeepChannel Love SBT, I've been a dealer since the beginning. NEVER had an SBT engine failure. NEVER ! As a technician and Expert, It is Your responsibility to EDUCATE your Clients on PWC CARE, USE, and MAINTENANCE!
These are super helpful videos good job and thank you keep it up
So I have a 2007 RXT 215 and I'm 99% sure the pump bearings are bad/have failed because the impeller spins freely and doesn't "stick" like a normal greased bearing would. I'm debating rebuilding it but being 17 years old I'm probably better off just replacing the whole thing wouldn't you think? I'm in a pickle trying to find a replacement and would like some insight/advise of which route to go and/or any recommendations for a replacement pump. Thanks! Also this video was super helpful and answered a lot of my questions I had about rebuilding my pump!
As long as you have the tools and patience, a 17-year-old can do it. Mechanics is just like cooking: just follow the instructions in perfect detail. If you’re going to tackle these types of jobs, it’s highly recommended to get a Service Manual for your machine. It is much cheaper to rebuild it, and you can learn a lot while you do it. Just make sure you’ve got all the tools (including torque wrenches) to do the job. SBT makes replacement pumps that are reliable and much cheaper than Sea-Doo’s OEM pumps. Buying the tools is a good investment, if you’re going to continue with repairs and maintenance yourself. Good luck!
@@3ftDeepChannel I bought the service manual for it and my brother has a press I can use. I just don't want to mess it up and then I wasted my time and money when I could have just replaced the whole thing.
@@3ftDeepChannel also it looks like the sbt pump doesn't come with the cone. Do I need to fill the cone with grease before reassembling it with my impeller?
Believe me, I always feel the same way.
You can get the cone from Sea-Doo. They’re not that expensive. Or, you can reuse your old one if it’s still in good condition. In recent Service Manuals, they no longer state to add grease into the nose cone. That’s probably because it never went anywhere, anyways. We just normally make sure it’s completely covered and add some more, but we don’t put any into the cone.
Great editing!!
A very good video indeed. But I have a problem. When I try to loosen the nut, the only thing that comes loose is the impeller. I don't understand how I can make the nut come off and not the impeller?
You need a special tool that has the same end as the driveshaft that will hold the impeller from spinning when you remove the nut.
@@3ftDeepChannel I have the special tool. But the impeller still comes loose first. Is the nut links? 😊
@@olavvatna Try pressing the shaft out of the impeller housing first, and then take the nut off
Absolutely great video. Very well done.
Thank you! Cheers!
Nicely done!!!
Nice edit!
What are the exact tools you use to push the bearing, shaft and seals out of the pump. Looked on you site but I don't see the one you used and don't want to order wrong ones
They are bearing pushers. You’ll need to get hold of a service manual for your machine and confirm the right part number, as they vary between machines. Good luck.
Done mine today , great video very helpful
Thanks, Gareth. It’s people like you who’ve kept us motivated to keep making these videos over the years.
Very good theirs videos ! for sure. many thanks!
I'm very surprised to see a BC licence plate on your bench!! Nice
Yep. Chris and I were both born and raised here. How about you?
@@3ftDeepChannel Same here Abbotsford BC. Just bought 3 Seadoos to rebuild, never ridden one before or worked on one so your videos are helping me!!
Wow, good luck with your projects! Correction, just discovered Chris was born in the UK. Raised in Canada. 🤨
Ótimo profissional, aqui no Brazil não vejo video como esse. Ganhou mais um escrito
Obrigado
Nice video, wondering if the jet pump can move in and out, are the bearings knackered? Mine makes a sort of rattle sound at idle. Shaft has side to side play as well
There shouldn't be any play in the pump like that. What year is your machine? How many hours are on it?
Today I saw your very instructive video and tried to find the tools on your page using the link and it doesn't let me see them. Could you tell me where I can buy them? 2011 Sea doo GTI LTD 155. Thanks and regards.
Sorry, but Amazon severed all our links to products. You can buy many of the tools at SBT or directly from Sea-Doo. Good luck.
This video was so helpful thank you
You’re welcome. Thanks for the kind words.
Great video! When pressing the seal in, are you bottoming out the seal in the bore or the tool on the face of the pump? I'm getting ready to rebuild the pump on my 2006 RXP 215 and don't want to spend the money on the custom tooling, if I don't need a stop to set depths.
We stop when the bearing bottoms out in the pump. Good luck with your rebuild.
Great video. Perfect!
I was wondering if you can give me advise. My 2008 ski run well yesterday for 3 hours. Today, after 20 minutes, of low speed riding a grinding noice started. I could here it from 40 yards away. Can a shot pump bearing cause that?
Any other suggestion what to check?
Yes, a shot pump can cause that. I would not even start your machine until the problem is resolved. First check the pump intake (through the intake grate) and see if anything is stuck in there. That is the most likely issue. If the intake and pump is clear, pull the pump and check it out thoroughly. If the pump is in good shape and you have a supercharger, it could be a bearing/washer failure. Do you have a supercharger?
3ftDeep , it is a GTX 155 without a charger.
I am about to order a new bearing kit. Is QEM the way to go or can you recommend an after market set?
Do you have a discount code for your page. I need to order the tools needed for the bearing change.
@@guenster8881 OEM is the way to go for us with those types of components. Did you confirm the bearing is shot? We greatly appreciate that you're considering going through our store, but unfortunately we don't have a discount code. Go with the best price on the OEM part you can find. You'll need an impeller removal tool, and a bearing press. Good luck.
Hello an awesome videos as everybody else has said. I removed the main bearing out of my pump unit just as you did and when I pressed the shaft out the inner races came out of the main bearing. So I end up with three pieces, the outer race with the ball bearings inside and then the two inner races. Is this how it's supposed to be or is the bearing supposed to stay in one piece. Thank you very much for any info you can offer on this. I don't want to buy a new bearing as this one looks like it's in perfect condition but I'm not sure if they're supposed to come apart into three pieces. Thanks again
Thanks for the kind words. When you press in/out a bearing, you must always press on the outer ring as there is very little material holding the bearing together. When we pressed the shaft out, we placed the bearing over a hole so the inner and outer rings were supported by the plate as the shaft was pressed through. If your bearing came apart, it needs to be replaced. Good luck with your project!
@@3ftDeepChannel OK. Thank you very much for the amazingly fast response. You guys rock.
Hello, great video, how are you loosening the flange nut at the start when you hold the shaft in teh vice?
The flange nut is held in the vice I think and he breaks it loose with the tool from the other side
Yes, as Tyler says we use a special impeller removal tool to take impeller off.
@@3ftDeepChannel yes i understand that but when you try and loosen the shaft with the impellor tool wont the impellor loosen off first? Man thanks - you can remove the shaft with the flange nut on and the hold shaft in vice and use spanner on the nut?
Ah, I see what you're asking now. Sorry for the delay in understanding. If I recall it works because the flange nut isn't on as tightly as the impeller.
Just checked the Service Manual, and it says if the impeller unscrews first, tighten it up and try again. They're actually on at the same torque.
Thanks for the Great video. I think I need to rebuild the pump on my 2018 seadoo wake 155. It's got a distinct whining sound that my buddies ski had before his bearing exploded on his spark jet pump. However I'm having issues finding the parts and tools I would need to do the job. Any recommendations? Thanks
We stick with OEM parts for the pump. I would highly suggest contacting a Sea-Doo dealer for those. As for the tools, you can find those on Amazon or eBay. We make it a little easier by linking to some of the tools on our website: 3ftdeepsports.com/store/ Good luck.
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Or several!
Love the video. Doing the exact same sequence right now. But what are the odds that the wear ring is going to "pop out" like in this video? How long was the pump in the freezer - like 3 hrs or so?
At least an hour. It’s hit and miss. Sometimes it’s very easy, sometimes it’s very hard. Most of the time it’s somewhere in between. Good luck.
@@3ftDeepChannel Thought I would report back. My impeller is out for rebuild and I had looked at the wear ring and decided it was fine given the hassle of replacing it I've watched in other videos. So I put the pump into my freezer for 4 hours with the wear ring facing down. Went to pull the pump out and the wear ring simply fell out - easier than your video LOL. So thanks!
@@mickgalvin Great stuff!!
What kind/brand of pump grease are you using? The seadoo brand one is yellowish. And why do you recommend replacing the cone screws? Great video by the way.
I use the Sea-Doo grease, but Chris uses standard marine grease. We haven't seen any difference (yet). The service manual says to replace the cone screws, so I always do. Chris never does, but then again his nose cone fell off once. He doesn't blame the screws, but I do. Good luck and thanks for the comment!
Hiya, do you know if the twin screw solas is any good . Seadoo rxpx260RS
Sorry, no. Try your question on greenhulk.net. Good luck.
Hey mate how you doing? Got a question for you...on the typical 90s seadoo sportster how much water does the venturi push up from jet for cooling? Obviously it would depend how good the wear ring is but would it be as much as a garden hose would push out? Just doing some calculations for my Subaru impreza project..will most likely be running it through a heat exchanger though. Anyway take care.
Gee, we really don't know. We don't want to venture a guess and make a mess of it for you. I suggest contacting BRP directly. Maybe they'll know. Good luck.
@@3ftDeepChannel ok thanks
nice job, and thanks
I have a 2015 Sea Doo GTI 130 Se that needs a jet pump rebuild, would it be the same procedure?
It’s basically the same, but you should get a service manual for your machine to make sure it’s done right. Good luck.
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Can we get some part numbers for these special tools you are using (bearing pushers). I see you used 2 different ones. Are these tools the same for a 2006 supercharged GTX? Thanks
Hello Cody, You can find most of the tools we use at the following URL: 3ftdeepsports.com/store-tools-specialty/ . As Sea-Doo change parts over time, we can't confirm what tools will work for your machine. We suggest getting hold of a service manual for your machine and check what tools are needed. You can then find your specific one on our website at the link I just gave you. Good luck and safe riding.
It’s a lot of work !
Do you recommend changing the jet pump grease just as a maintenance precaution?
We normally change the grease only if water gets into the pump, or when we take the pump apart. When checking for water during the normal maintenance procedure, we just normally top it up with fresh grease. Thanks for your comment.
So I see many rebuild kits for the jet pump. I am looking to just replace the o rings and the grease on the impeller bearing. I cannot find the o-rings and the locking screws to purchase anywhere. Do you have a specific place you source parts from?
We only get those parts directly from Sea-Doo. If you go to their website, you can order the parts directly from Sea-Doo.com. Unfortunately, I'm away from my computer for the next few days, so I can't give you the link. Good luck.
ooo, thanks, I didn't think to look there
The 2016 Gtx manual says to add only a thin layer of grease to the o-rings of the jet pump cover and no grease into the cover anymore. In spite of all do you recommend to add more grease ?
I think the reason it says that is that the bearing grease is so thick it doesn’t flow out of the cone, anyway. That’s our observation. So, it’s a waste of grease. It’s important that you pack the grease where the bearings and other components are, though. Good luck.
Hmm🤔, I think I've been in this situation before! (thanks for the help on the fourm)
I know the older skis used synthetic oil in the pump and that one only uses grease? I think the grease would be better myself.
The grease seems like a better idea, but it doesn’t seem to circulate as much. Very viscous. Not sure why they went from oil to grease.
exelente video señor !
Is there oil for this pump? Or only grease?
Only jet pump bearing grease.
Which brand is the press he is using? I like the notches in the metal plates. I have done a Google search but can't find that one.
It's just a generic brand he got from KMS tools, a Canadian company (www.kmstools.com). Good luck.
Great video
Thanks.
Do the 4 bolts when putting it back in matter on how much you tighten them, when reinstalling into the jet ski?
Absolutely. The correct torques are essential. Make sure you torque them to the right specs for your machine.
Did you guys end up packing the grease into the bearing, before putting it onto the shaft?
Only what's shown on the video.
is the Jet Pump All-Aluminum housing material? wondering what's that gray colored piece at the start of video? I think it's the Venturi. Thanks
That’s the powder-coated black venturi. I believe it’s also aluminum.
I have a 2016 gtr 215. Where can I buy those special tools needed to remove the impeller end replace the bearings? Do you have a part # you can share?
You can find lots of tools, etc. on our Amazon eStore at 3ftDeepSports.com, but here's a link directly to the tool that should work: www.amazon.com/dp/B00KI367F6/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=3ftdspor-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=cc83089038fcfa67c1b51091362403f9&creativeASIN=B00KI367F6
Should I remove the flange nut first and then the impeller? I am not trying to rebuild the pump my bearings are good, just trying to put in a new wear ring.
If you’re just going to change the wear ring, you may not need to do either. Check out our other video here: ruclips.net/video/axU-9Wi_Y-E/видео.htmlsi=_2irTSmzrtYKQo2d
Are you using the Lucas bearing grease to fill the pump and cone? I just replaced my pump grease with OEM stuff and it was more of a yellow than the blue in the video.
Chris uses cheaper marine grease. I recommend using the expensive OEM grease.
Can i use my silver based antisieze on the shelf instead of the locktite brand 767?
I already have a big bottle of some other brand.
It is different so we can’t recommend the substitution. I know it’s hard to find, but you should be able to find some after a while. We used to sell it on our Amazon eStore before it got shut down. You could also call your Sea-Doo service center and ask them what they recommend. Good luck.
Great video's
Hi, what's the power of your red press, please, is it a 6T one or a 12T...? Best regards
6 Ton. Here's a link to a press like the one we used: 3ftdeepsports.com/store-tools-specialty/
Do you use the same bearing/seal pusher you used in the video for the new version of the oil seal. I can’t get the old style anymore and the new ones look like there are not as wide as the old ones. Any idea on this? Thank you.
Part number 271002071 has superseded part number 293200086 and they are quite different.
We have different pushers for different bearings and seals. It’ll also depend on your unit so check with the tool supplier (SBT?) to make sure it’s exactly the right one for your system.
Great vids as usual! Question, what is your opinion on stainless steel wear rings?
That's a very good question and you'll get a different answer from different people you ask. My feeling is that it was made by the engineers who design the machines to be a "sacrificial" part for a good reason. When the ring interacts with the impeller something's got to give, especially if something hard is stuck in there. So my feeling is if your wear ring is stainless steel, your impeller would wear down much quicker than if it was plastic ...and that's an expensive item. So, I stick with nylon wear rings and replace them periodically. Thanks for your comment.
Could you help please, iv built my pump using this video which was great. However I have 2 o rings left over from the kit, can you think what they will be? Not the venturi small ones.
It would be easiest if you could send a picture of the O-rings via email.
@@3ftDeepChannel what's your email?
3ftdeepchannel@gmail.com
@@3ftDeepChannel email sent showing o rings👍
Sorry for the delay, I was traveling. They make those kits for multiple machines across multiple years, and the configurations of the pumps change slightly. So, if you didn’t notice those O-rings in your pump system, it is likely they are for a different machine or different year.
Just curious, it looks like there isn't any black paint on the pump housing. Did Seadoo stop painting them?
They didn’t powder coat the pumps in some older models. Some pumps are so heavily corroded that they actually lose all of the powder coating. I think the former is the case here.
Hey, where can I purchase the impeller/ bearing pusher? I can't seem to find one on Ebay. Your input be greatly appreciated. Thanks
You can find some tools at our website here: 3ftdeepsports.com/store-tools-specialty/ Confirm that it's the right one for your pump. Good luck.
Why you no use the power of hot and cold when doing all that, stuff would just slide together without having to press or at least without using great force! It makes me and baby Jesus cry when people do not use the natural power of science.
But good video none the less, it would be a great help to the new mechanics or new water craft people out there. A++ for guys like you making this stuff.
Well, in fairness we do put the wear ring in the freezer (see 5:26) to help out ...although it works even better sometimes if the entire pump is put in the freezer. Thanks for your comment.
@@3ftDeepChannel Putting the entire pump in the freezer works great for removing the old wear ring; but for installing a new one you heat the pump to expand it and cool the wear ring to shrink it.
Excellent!
Thank you! Cheers!
You Sir have provided a great video
This is exactly what I need done!!
Can I send my pump to you for a quick fix??
I don't have the tools or skill set to get this done. Local repair shop said $1200!!!
Sorry, we'd like to but we don't have the time to do work for others. We both have day jobs. Good luck!
3ftDeep Do think the jet pump can locked out the engine?
I doubt it. If by "locked out "you mean the engine will not turn over, that's most likely a problem with your engine.
3ftDeep the starter only due click click.i no i have problems with the started.what do think is the damage in the block.
There could be lots of reasons for your problem. Why do you think your damaged your engine? Did you get water in it?
Can you share a link for the press, impeller shaft pusher, and seal bearing pusher? Thanks!
You can find links to all those tools on our Amazon aStore under our "Tools" section at the following link: www.3ftDeepSports.com. Good luck.
I removed the sear clip and tried removing the seal but the first layer just crumpled.. do you think I could just press the shaft out with it still in without damaging the shaft?
I believe so. As long as you press the bearing out with the shaft, first.
@@3ftDeepChannel I’ll leave another comment if it was successful or not. Just gotta find a press firdt
Please do. Good luck.
Yup you don’t have to take that first seal out (the black rubber one) I just removed the circlip and pressed it all out. My shaft is different then yours though. I have the shaft then the sleeve (which is removable) and mine are in perfect shape. Even the bearing! But going to replace everything anyways. Thanks again!
thanks for the update, Ben.
Hello !! I want to ask a question. 2013 Sea-Doo GTX 155 power is lost and does not start from the start button, there is no sound signal LCD CLUSTER does not show anything what could be the reason?
Likely power supply. Check the battery voltage. You should have well over 12 volts (probably 12.5v). If that’s ok, then it’s likely an issue with a wire, most likely a ground wire. Make sure the connections to the battery are secure, too. Good luck.
Hi mate. I have seadoo rxt x255 2009, I want to check the Engine compression but i don't know what is the best compression? thanks
They can vary quite a bit between machines, the main thing is that they should all be similar.
When you opened up the cone there was oil in it is grease better to use after rebuilding pump
I agree. Some people like to use oil instead, but it's not what BRP recommends.
I have a 2017 seadoo gtr-x 230 I just put new bearing grease from the shop where the flange nut is and also in the cone. Question is, is it ok to apply that same grease where the drive shaft enters the impeller as well as in the boot or is triple guard grease the way to go? The amount of grease from factory as I took it apart seemed to be insufficient to the amounts posted in your video which I thought was odd. Around the splines of the drive shaft and inside the boot had rust in the thin layer of grease that wiped off thankfully but trying to prevent that or any rust in the future.
Triple Guard grease is definitely the way to go. I don’t know how it’s made, but that stuff sticks like crazy …even in salt water. That’s what the Service Manual says to use and we’ve found it to be excellent over the years. The Manual also seems to be getting away from putting bearing grease in the nose cone, but we still add some anyways. Good luck.
@@3ftDeepChannel Thank you! Triple guard grease in the boot which in turn is where the drive shaft enters impeller as well correct? Also where can you find the manual? I purchased mine new but I misplaced the manual it came with.
The Triple Guard Grease is just supposed to go (generously) directly on the splines of your driveshaft. The manual suggests Loctite 438 to go inside the driveshaft boot/plastic guard. You can probably find a Service Manual for your machine here: brpmanuals.com/seadoo-manual.htm. An Owners Manual can be downloaded from Sea-Doo's website. Good luck.
Thank you so much
My manual doesn’t mean toon triple guard grease. Only mentions
JET PUMP BEARING GREASE (P/N 293 550 032) AKA XPS Grease
I take it this isn’t as good as triple guard grease or is it the same.
Any type/brand of recommendation or they all the same.
Totally enjoying your videos!!!! Where can I guy purchase a shirt and shop banner?
There is a link to our store in the description below the video, and at the end of the video. Thanks!
Hi 3ftDeep,
I would like ask you if it's possible to replace the LOCTITE 767 by another product ? Because it's impossible to find it in France . Many thanks for you reply ;)
We have a similar problem here. I suggest you check out Permatex and make an inquiry to them regarding the equivalent product to use. I’m sure they have one. See: permatex.com
@@3ftDeepChannel Okay thank you ;) You think It's very important to put that on it ?
Yes it is.
Hi I have questions I have a sportster el 2001 and I can find the pump jet can I use a different year pump jet to my sea doo boat ?
Yes, Other ones will fit but not everyone will fit. Good luck.
Hi, nice videos! You think it could be good to lubricate the shaft when you put it into bearing and the bearing when you put in into pump housing? In case, with what? Thanks
I wouldn't use anything. The bearing needs to be pressed in, and it needs to stick to the housing and shaft well.
Thanks for answer.
You think a 6 ton press in enough?
Should be plenty.
What can I use instead of Loctite 767? I'm not able to find it... What is with bearing grease?
So my 2013 155 that I have owned since new has never had a pump rebuild. It currently has 1045 hrs on it. its only run in fresh water and I never sucked up anything bigger than a small sticks that I could clear out on its own. I check under the impeller cover when winterizing and I have never seen any water, nor is the grease milky, seals still look okay. Should I be rebuilding it as PM? I have read online that some people say every 200-300 hrs but that means I would have rebuilt it like 5 times by now. Am I just playing with fire by riding with this many hours without rebuilding?
That’s a great question. If it seems to be working perfectly, and there is no water intrusion at all, then it may be that it can work perfectly well for another 500 hours. I don’t recall anyone ever going that long without an issue. Next time you’re in the area remove it and check the bearings for any play, as they are bound to wear out soon. Good luck, and thanks for your comment!
What would be the symptoms to let you know you need to have your jetpump rebuild ? I cannot get pass 10 mph even at full throttle rpm rev high. The only time i can get it to go is when there is only 1 to 2 people (normal size) on max then it goes to 40-45 mph
That would be a symptom. Check the clearance between the edge of the impeller and the inside of the wear ring. It should only be about a millimeter. If it’s more than one and a half millimeters, you should probably replace the wear ring. You can check the condition of the pump without taking it off by taking the impeller cover off and looking for water inside. It doesn’t guarantee there are no problems, but if there is water you need to pull the pump and check it out thoroughly. Of course, before you do anything you should check to ensure that the intake grate is clear of any debris. Good luck.
@@3ftDeepChannel thank you
I removed my jet pump, looks like the bearing is bad due to water intrusion and no grease. Is there any clever way to do this without a press? I suppose I could buy a cheap one, but they’re pretty darn big, not sure I want one in my small house, and some rebuild shops only charge about $120ish labor anyway. Thoughts?
If you use the right-fitting bearing tool, you could use a hammer and tap it in/out. But you need to be very, very careful not to destroy the bearing during installation. Good luck.
I tried it without a press, and ended up with a new jet pump 😂. Be careful where you are smacking the hammer.
That’s the worst case scenario! What did you hit? Do you have one of the older plastic housings?
@@3ftDeepChannel No, its aluminum, I hit where the bearing seats on the inside. I have a bit more piece of mind anyhow knowing it's all within spec.
Does it need oil in there or is that just the older ones that have oil in the bearing?
Just grease in the newer models.
Just tried this, completely scored the pump wall pressing bearing in. Then the double seal tore pushing it into the housing. Definitely not as easy as it looks.
Crikey! We done the process a few times and haven’t done such damage, but we appreciate you warning others to take good care when doing this procedure.
My hull filled with water on idle and when I took it into the dealer I'm being told the pump bearing went and caused water to blow back through the carbon seal. Does this make sense? Apparently carbon seal is fine but issue was with the pump. I'm not sure I understand how a pump bearing coukd cause your hull to fill up.
Yes, it does. I had the same failure while on a long trip to an island. The pump is helping to hold the drive shaft in place. When it fails catastrophically there may not be enough pressure against the carbon ring and the seal will no longer be there. On my old machine when I was revving the engine water was coming in a forceful spray. That's why it's critical that we maintain our pumps! Sorry for the delayed response, but I just found your comment today.
Hi Were about did you get your bearing driver from
I believe we ordered it from SBT.
Tried it, flange nut was stuck and impeller came lose on the first step. Did you turn right or left on the impeller to loosen flange nut?
We worked it both ways, with emphasis on counter-clockwise. It can be a pain in the neck sometimes.