I own a 4 light and it comes off the truck every job, it is kinda of heavy but since it is so flat and all the weight is over the handles its very manageable. I will be also buying the 9 light or the new 6 this year, when you need light volume and dont want to afford HMI's they are perfect :D
last job, I used tons of this lights. one set up is 30 spacelight configuration for white cyc and they save tons of electricity... another is I used 6 of 12 lights unit to mimic the cinema screen light with dmx control. they are incredible useful and easy to use. IN china the 4 unit one only price about 1100 usd...
@@gaffergear i can report that it is big, heavy, and bright. i ran it on a cherrypicker for half the night and it was awesome in that role, and as a key through a 12x12 full grid, a few points: it is so heavy and big that getting it onto a heavy duty wind up is nontrivial, be prepared to have 3 people with ladders do it or to lay the stand on the ground and then erecting the whole thing with at least 3 people (much safer). really, its almost as bad as the s360. so it might be as bright as a 4k hmi, but i can set up a 4k by myself. Other than dmx, there is no remotecontrol, so dmx is manditory (used a small wired controllbox, im not wireless yet). we had two generators, both 3.5 kva, one of them was a very rudimentary model probably meant to be used on construction sites and the luxed 9 did not like it at all, over 70% it just started flickering like crazy. the same generator ran an m18 and a skypanel without any problems, so it seems this light doesnt like dirty power. the other generator was a standart honda model and that worked fine. All in all, the fine controll you get over color and output in this powerfull a light is great, so once you get it set up youre alot faster. for me, ill use it again for studio stuff, or whenever i can put it on a big rolling stand and leave it there for the whole shoot. im still interested in getting the 4, or even the single
@@gaffergear I'm using (job is yet to be confirmed) 3 x Luxed-12 in February. Why so much? Hi speed shoot up to 1000fps. If the shoot goes ahead will let you know results.
Could this be a M18 replacement (well , with 20kg of unfortunately)? Looking for an "M18" LED Daylight for years... but no luck up to now. I found the single LUXED to weigh 4kg - so its each single light to be heavy, not the frame etc. Spectrum looks great!
Thanks so much! This is awesome info. I'm gonna have to do a deep dive into what all the numbers beyond TLCI mean but I'm glad it's is here for me to reference in the future. Out of curiosity did you pull the color rendition information from the manufacturer or meter it with a C700 or another meter?
@@gaffergear right after I posted I found the vid where you break down how you evaluate a lighting unit. Love the info on your channel. Thanks for giving us usable critical analysis instead of the usual fluff.
At the max of 720 watts, it's still more than capable of being powered by a standard 120v outlet in the USA. Depending on the age of the building, an the circuit you're connecting to, you could power 2 or 3 of them off of one circuit.
I would only push it to 3 on a 20 amp circuit but even then, for this kind of output I have no idea when you would need 3 of these things in the same room of a house, worse case scenario very easy to run a line to another circuit.
The light looks awesome for its purposes as a space light or in a big studio but im not sure about it as an hmi replacement in the field. I wonder how the output compares to (4) forza 300 w/fresnel lenses on a triple header? I know the 4 forza 300 setup would be a bit more expensive, would draw more watts, not as physically large of light sources but it's a more versatile package for location.
I couldn't find any stats, but it felt like around 70 to 90 degrees to me. Badicly the beam is slightly wider than the distance to the subject. So if it was 3 meters away the beam was slightly wider than 3 meters. That was with the lenses pointing straight.
Hi! I have question about lighting. Is there really any other reason of using tungsten lights at this time, other than the cheap price when compared to led? Thanks,
If the camera is set to 3200 and the lights are not corrected with blue.. ie you are shooting in a blacked out studio or can filter/block any windows tungsten would get more lumen per $, and the light is great on skin. My mate has a 2k tung and it does good things for only a few $. Really he gets a lot of light for $150 compared to my $4k of LED
how would you think these compare with the Forzas you reviewed before which can be put as a cluster on one single lightstand or spread, or maybe down a corridor. Both $per lumen and also amount of times you would pick them? Im putting my money on some forza 300/500 being a better bet?
I was thinking the same thing. I have a Forza 500 and I thought of clustering them in to a 6 formation, very tight together so the the reflector dishes would be touching. That would be quite a powerful light 3K Watts. I talked to Nanlite and they are suggesting a rig to their R&D.
@@gaffergear Cheers mate, I saw those but cant find a price for them, everything seems to "call for quote" is that because supply chain issues and other mularkey?
I am curious about the IP rating as I would love to key with this through windows and as for now I leave my M40 in whatever weather it is, it could replace my Arri M40. The 12 is only 14Kg difference which you easily make up when you dont need a generator, thick cables, gas and the M40 Ballast. If you cover the ballast you should be fine?
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I own a 4 light and it comes off the truck every job, it is kinda of heavy but since it is so flat and all the weight is over the handles its very manageable. I will be also buying the 9 light or the new 6 this year, when you need light volume and dont want to afford HMI's they are perfect :D
last job, I used tons of this lights. one set up is 30 spacelight configuration for white cyc and they save tons of electricity...
another is I used 6 of 12 lights unit to mimic the cinema screen light with dmx control.
they are incredible useful and easy to use.
IN china the 4 unit one only price about 1100 usd...
This video made me put the luxed 9 on the rental list for a shoot this saturday, ill report back after, super excited to use it!
I would be very interested, the 4 in this video is still the only Luxed light in all of Victoria Australia.
@@gaffergear i can report that it is big, heavy, and bright.
i ran it on a cherrypicker for half the night and it was awesome in that role, and as a key through a 12x12 full grid, a few points:
it is so heavy and big that getting it onto a heavy duty wind up is nontrivial, be prepared to have 3 people with ladders do it or to lay the stand on the ground and then erecting the whole thing with at least 3 people (much safer). really, its almost as bad as the s360.
so it might be as bright as a 4k hmi, but i can set up a 4k by myself.
Other than dmx, there is no remotecontrol, so dmx is manditory (used a small wired controllbox, im not wireless yet).
we had two generators, both 3.5 kva, one of them was a very rudimentary model probably meant to be used on construction sites and the luxed 9 did not like it at all, over 70% it just started flickering like crazy.
the same generator ran an m18 and a skypanel without any problems, so it seems this light doesnt like dirty power.
the other generator was a standart honda model and that worked fine.
All in all, the fine controll you get over color and output in this powerfull a light is great, so once you get it set up youre alot faster.
for me, ill use it again for studio stuff, or whenever i can put it on a big rolling stand and leave it there for the whole shoot.
im still interested in getting the 4, or even the single
@@xx1simon1xx thanks for that info
@@gaffergear I'm using (job is yet to be confirmed) 3 x Luxed-12 in February. Why so much? Hi speed shoot up to 1000fps. If the shoot goes ahead will let you know results.
Wonderfully thorough review. Thank you!
Could this be a M18 replacement (well , with 20kg of unfortunately)?
Looking for an "M18" LED Daylight for years... but no luck up to now.
I found the single LUXED to weigh 4kg - so its each single light to be heavy, not the frame etc.
Spectrum looks great!
Very good knowledge ji
Thanks so much! This is awesome info. I'm gonna have to do a deep dive into what all the numbers beyond TLCI mean but I'm glad it's is here for me to reference in the future. Out of curiosity did you pull the color rendition information from the manufacturer or meter it with a C700 or another meter?
C800 spectrometer
@@gaffergear right after I posted I found the vid where you break down how you evaluate a lighting unit. Love the info on your channel. Thanks for giving us usable critical analysis instead of the usual fluff.
At the max of 720 watts, it's still more than capable of being powered by a standard 120v outlet in the USA. Depending on the age of the building, an the circuit you're connecting to, you could power 2 or 3 of them off of one circuit.
I would only push it to 3 on a 20 amp circuit but even then, for this kind of output I have no idea when you would need 3 of these things in the same room of a house, worse case scenario very easy to run a line to another circuit.
Why do most LED lights have horrible R12's, but this one is so good?
The light looks awesome for its purposes as a space light or in a big studio but im not sure about it as an hmi replacement in the field. I wonder how the output compares to (4) forza 300 w/fresnel lenses on a triple header? I know the 4 forza 300 setup would be a bit more expensive, would draw more watts, not as physically large of light sources but it's a more versatile package for location.
This is less than 50% brighter than a Forza 500 with dish on. But this is bi-color
wow! that color rendition rate though
Wow those red channel scores, do you know what lightman is doing differently with their leds to gain that spectrum reproduction?
Most LED have a weak R9 or a weak R12. This is the only one I've found that had both above 90.
Thanks for that. Do you know what the beam angle is roughly?
I couldn't find any stats, but it felt like around 70 to 90 degrees to me.
Badicly the beam is slightly wider than the distance to the subject. So if it was 3 meters away the beam was slightly wider than 3 meters. That was with the lenses pointing straight.
Do you get multiple shadows from the 4 heads?
Yes
Very nice 👌
Hi! I have question about lighting. Is there really any other reason of using tungsten lights at this time, other than the cheap price when compared to led? Thanks,
Complete colour render, and all tungsten colour match each other, regardless of brands.
If the camera is set to 3200 and the lights are not corrected with blue.. ie you are shooting in a blacked out studio or can filter/block any windows tungsten would get more lumen per $, and the light is great on skin. My mate has a 2k tung and it does good things for only a few $. Really he gets a lot of light for $150 compared to my $4k of LED
@@sammorganmoore yep
how would you think these compare with the Forzas you reviewed before which can be put as a cluster on one single lightstand or spread, or maybe down a corridor. Both $per lumen and also amount of times you would pick them? Im putting my money on some forza 300/500 being a better bet?
This is under 50% brighter than a forza 500 with its dish on
I was thinking the same thing. I have a Forza 500 and I thought of clustering them in to a 6 formation, very tight together so the the reflector dishes would be touching. That would be quite a powerful light 3K Watts. I talked to Nanlite and they are suggesting a rig to their R&D.
0:07 lol - not a pro, just wanna see a review of a badass light that I wont have an opportunity to use any time soon
Late to the dance here but are these lights still a good value by comparison with LED in 2022?
Yes, I also think they have RGBWW now
@@gaffergear Cheers mate, I saw those but cant find a price for them, everything seems to "call for quote" is that because supply chain issues and other mularkey?
I am curious about the IP rating as I would love to key with this through windows and as for now I leave my M40 in whatever weather it is, it could replace my Arri M40. The 12 is only 14Kg difference which you easily make up when you dont need a generator, thick cables, gas and the M40 Ballast. If you cover the ballast you should be fine?
I read up on it and it says IP20, but I am curious if thats because the ballast is mounted on it.
@@johanlindqvist99 apparently you can get a rain jacket
Nice! Nice reviews and info as always!
Doing some checking on availability and am not finding this light available in US yet... Any idea when and if so, where?
Wooden nickel
@@gaffergear Thank you much
good video
Do they have a green cast in daylight mode?
20:56
Multiple shadows?
Yep
Hi similar with par 64?
I haven't used a 1k par 64 in years so hard to give on answer. My par 64 (covered in dust) are all spot or narrow spots so not a great comparison
Who sells them in Australia
Tecart.com.au
Mobil aap
I'm about 99% sure the answer is no.