From a 63 year old who first started riding in 1965 I have an important tip which took 40 years to figure out. There is always a problem with unequal length straps on the handlebars, allowing the bike to shift easily to the long end, sometimes actually coming unhooked! Used to be we would really crank the straps down, and I myself used a tire/fender brace block. Years ago my structural engineer friend suggested we tie a third short strap between the swing arm and the bumper or d ring in the corner of the bed. That was it forever and ever. Having a triangulating third strap (I suggest a short ratcheting strap made for securing boat transoms on trailers) does not load the back shock. Most importantly it creates so much stabilization that the front end no longer has to be sacked out, and you can actually grab a handlebar and rock the truck back and forth with zero bike shifting no matter how unequal the bar straps are in length. Try a third strap from either the swing arm or rear frame above the peg to the corner of the bed and I promise you will never ever tie down without it!
Really never understood how you could damage the suspension, unless you crank it down taking up 90%+ of travel and leaving it that way for long periods of time experiencing heating and cooling cycles. Good video, keep them coming. Ride on🤙🏻
the thing that ruins it at least from my understanding is when you crank it somewhere with high elevation and /or high temp and pressure builds as you head to lower elevation and /or the temp drops. That's why a lot of guys will pull the bleed screws when going through the mountains.
I think it was kyle from dirt bike channel....single bike put the straps on the foot pegs.....been doing this for a while.....so easy........good luck!
Heres some advice from working at a car dealer..... Throw that plastic bed cover in the trash and get a spray in. The plastic cover traps water between the cover and the actual bed causing it to rot. I see it all the time being a tech.
Put it in 1st gear block the wheels run straps thru the rims u can crank down without compressing your suspension have it turned fully given into the kick stand, so it cant turn left or right that way, its just stuck left, then side by side straps and drive gently
the people telling you that your going to mess up your suspension by cranking it down are darwin award winners and doing it straight to the box works good to for transport cant go anywhere if each side has the same amount of force on it
Just curious..: I’m just shopping for a new ram now, had you considered ram boxes? I know it takes away from bed space, but good place to put your gear. Have you seen anyone have one bike in there with the ram boxes? Can you close the tail gate? Thabks
Dont do it. Biggest mistake i made. They take up so much bed space i cant get my bike in unless its literally straight in with the rear wheel in the middle of the tail gate
Use the wooden block my whole life over the front tire, and under the front fender bolts, to stop the forks from being drawn down, drawing them down and leaving them for a long trip isn’t good for the seals period, and have sense my YZ125 left Vermont with perfectly good fork seals, I tightened it down to the trailer, and drove to Florida, so it would stay tight on the trailer, when I got there both seals were blown out, and leaked everywhere, and it was always clean, but now the new plastic supports you can buy for $10 have wings they just set up against the forks and make it easier and the straps grab that much quicker other than your forks just being drawn down each time you ratchet them
for 2 bikes.... If you put the bikes as close to the wheel well as you can and turn the wheels hard toward each other so the they meet in the center you can close the gate with a 6 foot bed.
Yea, my bed is 5' 8" and it won't work with 2 bikes. I'm using a bed extender. But, the rear tires cannot go all the way to the left and right because the extender is curved. This way seems good. I love both of the straps. @@Danman1972
I don't know why people feel like they have to have their tailgate up when they haul a bike. I just run a strap through the back wheel to keep it from rolling off the back of the truck. And I really don't see how pulling the suspension down halfway or less could possibly hurt it.
its more about the little stuff in the bed, I dont worry about the bike at all. feels complete when the gate is closed.. might be just me, I am bit weird ;)
I load my bike the same, on the same angle, only I hook the ratchet straps to the foot pegs. This way there is no suspension compression, you are putting lateral force on either side of the bike, very little downward force. It's not going to move an inch.
In the bed of a truckput wheel in the corner and put one strap from corner to the foot peg and do the same on other side.doesnt affect suspension and the bike wont go down or move during travel.(thats if you only have one bike in the truck) Wrote it before watching video sorry lads
We have a 4 bay trailer and a truck that can comfortably fit 2 big bikes on the back. And then we can fit full gear and fuel for 6 riders and camping gear if we go adventure or trail riding. And it's the perfect set up. I've had a van and their good aswell and u don't have to worry about your bike falling off the back lol
@@dirtniron yes 3 bikes on 1 hook each side went over cattle grid 1 hook snapped and half fell off dragging down the dirt road the clutch lever stabbed the fuel tank lucky it didn't catch fire. now i put 2 bikes facing forward and 1 facing back and if tie down hook breaks again each bike holds each up
From a 63 year old who first started riding in 1965 I have an important tip which took 40 years to figure out. There is always a problem with unequal length straps on the handlebars, allowing the bike to shift easily to the long end, sometimes actually coming unhooked! Used to be we would really crank the straps down, and I myself used a tire/fender brace block. Years ago my structural engineer friend suggested we tie a third short strap between the swing arm and the bumper or d ring in the corner of the bed. That was it forever and ever. Having a triangulating third strap (I suggest a short ratcheting strap made for securing boat transoms on trailers) does not load the back shock. Most importantly it creates so much stabilization that the front end no longer has to be sacked out, and you can actually grab a handlebar and rock the truck back and forth with zero bike shifting no matter how unequal the bar straps are in length. Try a third strap from either the swing arm or rear frame above the peg to the corner of the bed and I promise you will never ever tie down without it!
thanks for sharing Fred!
Do you have a visual for reference so I can replicate this? I want to make sure it looks exact to your description.
@@u.s.citizen9933Imagine the bike in the center of the bed. Bike is in the middle of a big X. The X being the straps of course.
Really never understood how you could damage the suspension, unless you crank it down taking up 90%+ of travel and leaving it that way for long periods of time experiencing heating and cooling cycles.
Good video, keep them coming.
Ride on🤙🏻
the thing that ruins it at least from my understanding is when you crank it somewhere with high elevation and /or high temp and pressure builds as you head to lower elevation and /or the temp drops. That's why a lot of guys will pull the bleed screws when going through the mountains.
thanks Robert, will keep them coming!
@@jacobvanhalteren7452 thanks for sharing Jacob
I just added Strapinos to my Amazon cart. Thanks for sharing.
I was waiting for you to say how you will load the fourth bike. LOL. Now I know how to load two bikes. Thanks
Brings back awesome memories every manufacturer bike in the back.❤️ Great video. Yes you can damage your suspension if not properly seated.
right on Jason, we love to ride them all!
@@dirtniron I love that wiseco sticker kit.❤️
Great video! Thank you for showing multiple bikes!!
Really nice video! I like seeing other people methods on how they do things :)
glad you like it brother! happy to hear from you ;)
I think it was kyle from dirt bike channel....single bike put the straps on the foot pegs.....been doing this for a while.....so easy........good luck!
Heres some advice from working at a car dealer..... Throw that plastic bed cover in the trash and get a spray in. The plastic cover traps water between the cover and the actual bed causing it to rot. I see it all the time being a tech.
thanks for the tip!
Put it in 1st gear block the wheels run straps thru the rims u can crank down without compressing your suspension have it turned fully given into the kick stand, so it cant turn left or right that way, its just stuck left, then side by side straps and drive gently
the people telling you that your going to mess up your suspension by cranking it down are darwin award winners
and doing it straight to the box works good to for transport cant go anywhere if each side has the same amount of force on it
thanks for sharing man
I like how the two bike configuration enable good rear view mirror sightlines
yes, thats right
Good video!
Those straps are rad!
Glad you like them! thanks guys
The way you tied the bike down in the thumbnail looks like it would work pretty good as well.🤪
lol
Just curious..: I’m just shopping for a new ram now, had you considered ram boxes? I know it takes away from bed space, but good place to put your gear. Have you seen anyone have one bike in there with the ram boxes? Can you close the tail gate? Thabks
Dont do it. Biggest mistake i made. They take up so much bed space i cant get my bike in unless its literally straight in with the rear wheel in the middle of the tail gate
Is it bad to hook it to the foot pegs? That's how I do a single bike and I have no issues
Real sturdy like this I think 👍
I have same truck an for one bike I load same except I hook to foot pegs , bike dosnt move no matter what
thanks for sharing Brian!
Use the wooden block my whole life over the front tire, and under the front fender bolts, to stop the forks from being drawn down, drawing them down and leaving them for a long trip isn’t good for the seals period, and have sense my YZ125 left Vermont with perfectly good fork seals, I tightened it down to the trailer, and drove to Florida, so it would stay tight on the trailer, when I got there both seals were blown out, and leaked everywhere, and it was always clean, but now the new plastic supports you can buy for $10 have wings they just set up against the forks and make it easier and the straps grab that much quicker other than your forks just being drawn down each time you ratchet them
thanks for sharing, appreciate the feedback
@@dirtniron Great video, you guys are crushing it!
This is a good video.
What brand aluminum ramp are you using?
Not my idea but I do same procedure but I sit on the bike and hook the foot pegs and cinch up. Works great.
thanks for sharing Patrick!
Interesting. I wanted to do that but I thought I heard it is more secure if it is tied from high to low.
Only an idiot hooks to the foot pegs.
for 2 bikes.... If you put the bikes as close to the wheel well as you can and turn the wheels hard toward each other so the they meet in the center you can close the gate with a 6 foot bed.
yea, I heard that too. Wish I have at least 6ft bed.. thanks for sharing Danny
@@dirtniron Looking a newer trucks its mostly 5.5 or less! The mid sized seems to less.
Yea, my bed is 5' 8" and it won't work with 2 bikes. I'm using a bed extender. But, the rear tires cannot go all the way to the left and right because the extender is curved. This way seems good. I love both of the straps. @@Danman1972
Would like or hope to see vids on how riding with your son works. My son is 12 (yz85) and we are starting to ride together.
we can work on some video soon. thanks
I don't know why people feel like they have to have their tailgate up when they haul a bike. I just run a strap through the back wheel to keep it from rolling off the back of the truck. And I really don't see how pulling the suspension down halfway or less could possibly hurt it.
its more about the little stuff in the bed, I dont worry about the bike at all. feels complete when the gate is closed.. might be just me, I am bit weird ;)
I've been hauling bikes for 40 years with the suspension strapped and I have never seen any damage to the suspension.
thanks for sharing, thats my experience too
Awesome, thanks for the share!
SKF fork seals are the best.
Attach the tie-downs to your pegs next time, that eliminates pressure on the front forks.
Only an idiot attaches the tie-downs to the pegs.
seems like the straps in the 2 bike config is putting a lot of pressure on the wheel
I load my bike the same, on the same angle, only I hook the ratchet straps to the foot pegs. This way there is no suspension compression, you are putting lateral force on either side of the bike, very little downward force. It's not going to move an inch.
thanks for sharing
same as my reply above. I want to try it but heard it is more secure strapped at an angle from high to low. glad to know it works to the pegs.
Those straps look inconvenient
In the bed of a truckput wheel in the corner and put one strap from corner to the foot peg and do the same on other side.doesnt affect suspension and the bike wont go down or move during travel.(thats if you only have one bike in the truck)
Wrote it before watching video sorry lads
thanks for sharing
I go around triple tree so I don’t bend handlebars
thanks for sharing!
Yeah nah no truck no trailer
Van is the way to go 3/4.bikes 3 people all the gear ramps stands still loads Of room 😁
yep, thats the best way. Maybe one day ;)
We have a 4 bay trailer and a truck that can comfortably fit 2 big bikes on the back. And then we can fit full gear and fuel for 6 riders and camping gear if we go adventure or trail riding. And it's the perfect set up. I've had a van and their good aswell and u don't have to worry about your bike falling off the back lol
@@dirtniron it's the best way for me pick up trucks ain't really a thing in Ireland but vans yeah lots of them
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Just buy some pro taper straps=problem solved.
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good job Steve! how was the Washougal?
Come on-Thats a dirt bike not a lawn mower. Use some dirt bike straps guys, not these ratchet straps.
first ;)
YOU BARELY BEAT ME....
How big is the truck bed?
Short bed, I believe 5’6”
handle bar scratch $150 to replace .... scratch back of ute , bent disk and spokes $1500 and 3 bikes on 1 hook $30000 of bikes fallen on the road .
not sure I follow.. is that what happened to you ?
@@dirtniron yes 3 bikes on 1 hook each side went over cattle grid 1 hook snapped and half fell off dragging down the dirt road the clutch lever stabbed the fuel tank lucky it didn't catch fire. now i put 2 bikes facing forward and 1 facing back and if tie down hook breaks again each bike holds each up
I was wondering if that should be a concern. Now I think I need to do some research. How did you fix the broken hook?