This answers alot of questions about why our heroes are still suffering. The mzungu narrator should desist from trying to influence our opinion about kenyatta's handling of the land issue. I agree 100% with Kaggia. The land should have been returned to its rightful owners.
Truth be told, my father was a millionaire when he went to the bush as a Mau Mau but came out poor and his land given to the same people who were against the struggle for independent. Adding insult to injury, i remember him being picked out in a public baraza to be beaten because he had a different mind than those in power. I know because Kagia ate in our house, and i greeted him even though i was young. A dirty game was played. Kenyatta wasn't a Mau Mau he just used his exposure , of the outside world to corrupt the minds of Kenyans and hide behind his true thought. He used his English and oratory skills to "kill" the very people he was supposed to defend. Please give us a break we know.
Politics will never be game played in a cathedral witnessed by a priest in cassocks,ready to lead holy mass thereafter. It’s chicanery , perfidy, scheming and betrayal. It had been that way since the days of Cain and Abel , Jacob and Esau and probably before then.
Kenyatta was pure evil 😈 a pure devil 👿 who should never be remembered as a hero but the biggest traitor and the mother if not the father of all home guards...sick to hear his damn name and a curse is upon them all
we request the families of kagia. mwariama. General baimungi. ochieng oneko. kimathi. and all revolutionary giants to come together and form a millennium alliance tht will bring out full light to the millennium Kenyans generations
*Why do people celebrate this man on mashujaa day? He's the cause behind the Kenyans who are poor till today while Kenya is a very rich country. He gave everything to the westerners!* 🤨😖
@@kim1570 What is known is that Kinyaatas were not maumau fighters but pple who found themselves seated right in the middle of honey and butter they don know how it came their way.
Everything tha is hidden or done in darkness shall come to light and will be shown, and everything done in secret will be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in an inner room will be shouted from the housetops! - quoted ftom the most read book in the world.
Kenyatta established the country on the foundation of tribalism and nepotism.These are the two main problems that bedevil us today.He betrayed his fellow Mau Mau men who really fought more than him!!
Could he have been given free land to Kikuyus without repercussions? If yes, what do you think has prevented Moi, Kibaki, Uhuru and Ruto from giving free land to the children of the Mau Mau fighters?
@@maumauchronicles4296 Those you are trying to shift blame to, apart from probably Kibaki, have never claimed to have "fought for the land"or "independence". Or are you probably insinuating, as many people believe and agree, that the so called mau mau fight for independence was a hoax?
@@maumauchronicles4296 all those you have mentioned were land grabbers. You read Landgrabbers and Looters of Kenya by Joe Khamisi and see how we expected Hyena to condemn his clan for eating the sheep. Kibaki also grabbed land, Moi we know how he grabbed only second to Kenyatta. You can't expect Uhuru to do anything. As you are asking a baby to cut their own umbilical cord. I don't want to talk about the other one.
I agree that Kenyatta made tribalism and nepotism a huge thread in the Kenyan fabric , and his dear friend, Moi, further pushed it. I was able to learn the history from people while living in Kenya back in 2022 (I was born in Trinidad 🇹🇹). Even in Nguhi wa Thiong’o’s prison memoir, on the first page is a photo copy of the order for his arrest, ordered by Jomo Kenyatta and signed by Moi. From my observations while living in Kenya, the essence of Moi is still very much alive, I noticed it everyday just in the usual politics even down to the way people go about their day and think. Nepotism is very strong in Kenya to the point that it really bothered me. I was sad to see how nepotism undermined the hard work and intelligence of Kenyans, to the point that even getting a job is very difficult (seems Kenyan companies are big on making everyone an “intern” nowadays).
Kenyatta will never beat the allegations, first he sided with white settlers to b compensated for the land that they grabbed from Africans,then swindled mau mau the compensation money which was meant for maumau ...he will forever remain in the bad side of kenya history,the true history of Kenya is out ...That level of betrayal n selfishness just qualifies him to b a total sell out n being greedy to the core .
" Jomo alikua msaliti na atabaki kuwa msaliti hata kaburini!! Alivuna mahali hakupanda na wanaomuenzi waone vile alivyokua mnafki!! He cant be the founding father of the nation! Kenyans must strip him off this tittle and his mousoleam at nairobi removed!! Iread a book about him as a cook, his co inmates used to refuse to eat his food due to his hygine way of cooking!! Mzee Kaggia, get going, tell the nation the truth about our land how it went to the dogs!! The jomo family must be ashamed of their past!!
@@blessingsmaryAliapisha Kenyatta wapi? Don't follow pedestrian stories. There are good records of what transpired during the period leading to Kenya's independence. Read them and educate yourself.
Kungu Karumba is the one that died in Uganda 1974-1978, its suspected to be a business related assassination. Dont confuse kungu karumba and bildad kaggia! Kungu karumba was more of a business person and kenyatta’s confidant. Bildad Kaggia died in 2005!
@@mwangimuhammad-sx9hb from Bildad Kaggia’s account in this video, he says that Kenyatta ( through thungu wanyoike) killed kungu karumba due to some land compensation issues. However, in most historical accounts kungu karumba died in Uganda somewhere between 1974-1979. I think its upon us to make our own conclusion based on evidences provided in both accounts.
Kenyatta was planted by colonialists to serve imperialist interests They cleverly packaged him as a freedom hero while in reality he was being inducted to be an overlord. After independence, he became a grand thief and murderer
Kenyatta's betrayal of the KCA in London, and his telling Kaggia that he had resigned from politics and was NEVER going back to Kenya, while enjoying life with his Mzungu wife in UK, says it all😁. He even had time to do a movie with Paul Robeson (Sanders of the River) while there! Anyway, dear Kenyans, let us move on. All this happened over 60 years ago and there's no use crying over spilt milk. This world is inhumane and unfair. Politics is a dirty game everywhere. Weka kwa lungs, sio kwa roho. And please find Jesus otherwise you will suffer one million times more when you join Kenyatta on the other side! Remember he was trained under a mchawi and became a mchawi Freemason himself! That's how he got power in this evil, unjust world!
@@maumauchronicles4296 history matters, but let's not be prisoners to it. I'm actually a historian by training and can tell you for a fact that the Jomo story was the typical template of every African "leader" chosen by the colonialists/imperialists to transition their countries into "independence." They were always sent to the Fort Hares and Londons to learn to love the white man's ways. Then "jailed" just before "independence," before being "released" as heroic martyrs to become "Fathers of the Nation." Jomo, Mugabe, Kamuzu ... we can go on and on. Mandela was the biggest one. A fraudster of fraudsters. When he got out of Robben and was given the Presidency on a silver platter, what did the black man get? Zero. They (the chosen Presidents) all had to obey neocolonial orders. And you know what happened to those who later changed their minds (on the land issue especially) and rebelled - the Lumumbas, the Mugabes and so on! #NotYetUhuru
Brother you are spot on.. Kenyatta living in the UK was all about initiating him into Freemasonry and the underworld of politics. This is the reason why our country will never be liberated from politics of slavery coz the foundations are all grounded on freemasonry.
Muaji akapigwa na bakora mpaka akatoroka". Sometimes things become difficult when politicians scuffle for power and losers falsed to go home to lick their wounds.
The fact that you refer Kenyatta as hero, the whole meaning of heroism lack meaning. We know him as a father of corruption, land grabbing, tribalism and all social ills our nation is suffering. I think kenyans needs to have our history rewritten to define who our true heros were.
Now we got it!.jomo kenyatta like uhuru kenyatta was real hypocrite who uses others to ascend to presidency, then get rid of them!.uhuru kenyatta tried all means to get rid of Ruto. Just like his father who wanted to strike off bildad kagia, got rid of mboya,jm,field marshal musa mwariama.
Did Kenyatta at any point claim to have been a Mau Mau member? I can't recall that. But despite all his failings, as independence approached Kenyatta was a rallying symbol around which groups with divergent views and interests rallied, for better or for worse. Mau Mau's thought he was one of them. Kikuyu nationalism thought he was one of them. Leaders with moderate views across the country thought he was one of them. Everyone thought he was one of them. Even Kikuyu home guards saw hope in him after independence. But only he knew what he stood for. Which was selfish interest.
Kenyatta was a true politician... Kaggia is wrong to say otherwise Karumba was no threat to Kenyatta govt n not accurate to state his death... Pinto was detained in 1954_59, so no funds had been compensated. Kaggia had alot of bitterness due to land distribution. Some statements here need correction
Njomo played his role in our liberation, his praises given to him by our grandfathers wasn't for nothing. When He died the country's trajectory changed
@@MauMauMwangi1My friend he blindsighted many n that s why many sang his praises not seeing his hypocrisy that people like Baimungi et all could c right thru
My grandfather once told me that Kenyatta was a big traitor in the war against freedom.
Please re do this podcast without interrupting Mr Kaggia in any way
And that is our Kenyatta, a supposed hero of Kenya, when in fact, he was just a murderer and thief.
It seems our founding father of this country was just an opportunist and not a liberator as all along we've been taught to believe.
Sure.
Yes all of them the whole of Africa they were opportunistic
Kabisa and that's why I hate the river Yara mascara continuetion of what dad used to do
Absolutely,like son.
Sure. Even hs son I doubt kama ni kiongozi
Kenyatta was a collaborator not a freedom fighter
This answers alot of questions about why our heroes are still suffering. The mzungu narrator should desist from trying to influence our opinion about kenyatta's handling of the land issue. I agree 100% with Kaggia. The land should have been returned to its rightful owners.
Do we have the raw recordings of Kagia instead of the voice overs?
Count me in!!!! Getting lots of info .. salute to The Real Mau Mau heroes!!!
Truth be told, my father was a millionaire when he went to the bush as a Mau Mau but came out poor and his land given to the same people who were against the struggle for independent. Adding insult to injury, i remember him being picked out in a public baraza to be beaten because he had a different mind than those in power. I know because Kagia ate in our house, and i greeted him even though i was young. A dirty game was played. Kenyatta wasn't a Mau Mau he just used his exposure , of the outside world to corrupt the minds of Kenyans and hide behind his true thought. He used his English and oratory skills to "kill" the very people he was supposed to defend. Please give us a break we know.
Asante Sana murume
True.He snitched on Dedan
Politics will never be game played in a cathedral witnessed by a priest in cassocks,ready to lead holy mass thereafter. It’s chicanery , perfidy, scheming and betrayal. It had been that way since the days of Cain and Abel , Jacob and Esau and probably before then.
As for me, both my grand father I mean my mum's and father's dad were in they struggling but nothing to show for it.
Kenyatta was pure evil 😈 a pure devil 👿 who should never be remembered as a hero but the biggest traitor and the mother if not the father of all home guards...sick to hear his damn name and a curse is upon them all
we request the families of kagia. mwariama. General baimungi. ochieng oneko. kimathi. and all revolutionary giants to come together and form a millennium alliance tht will bring out full light to the millennium Kenyans generations
And Paul ngei
The families may not be intrested those ate cerelac babies
Waah ndio maana mpaka wa leo wakikuyu wengi hawana shamba ju kenyatta alinyakua yote 😢
It doesn't matter how you fight. What matters is if you are still standing at the end..
This would've been a great documentary if only you had let Kagia's voice be used instead of voiced over. Close captions would have sufficed.
Completely agreed
Great GUY❤❤
Heko kaggia kwa kufichua ukweli wa kenya , uongo ujitenge na kutahayari. Kaa pema peponi twakupenda .
*Why do people celebrate this man on mashujaa day? He's the cause behind the Kenyans who are poor till today while Kenya is a very rich country. He gave everything to the westerners!* 🤨😖
Kenyatta was capable of doing anything for him to retain on his position.
Is there part 2 of this great expose
Keep returning. You just never know.
The truth. Wabeberu and his dogs 😢
Kwanza warudishie watu wa maumau mashamba.😮😮😮😢😢😢
Heh! Hizo mashamba zinauziwa foreigners by other fake mau mau 'fighters'.
@@kim1570 What is known is that Kinyaatas were not maumau fighters but pple who found themselves seated right in the middle of honey and butter they don know how it came their way.
But you all love Kenyatta family..... watu wa murima
@@BM7-j7m How did u know that we 'all' love the Kenyattas.
Everything tha is hidden or done in darkness shall come to light and will be shown, and everything done in secret will be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in an inner room will be shouted from the housetops! - quoted ftom the most read book in the world.
Jomo Kenyatta was a historical mistake that came out from Kapenguria.
Founding father wa wizi
Kenyatta established the country on the foundation of tribalism and nepotism.These are the two main problems that bedevil us today.He betrayed his fellow Mau Mau men who really fought more than him!!
Could he have been given free land to Kikuyus without repercussions? If yes, what do you think has prevented Moi, Kibaki, Uhuru and Ruto from giving free land to the children of the Mau Mau fighters?
@@maumauchronicles4296 Those you are trying to shift blame to, apart from probably Kibaki, have never claimed to have "fought for the land"or "independence". Or are you probably insinuating, as many people believe and agree, that the so called mau mau fight for independence was a hoax?
@@maumauchronicles4296 all those you have mentioned were land grabbers. You read Landgrabbers and Looters of Kenya by Joe Khamisi and see how we expected Hyena to condemn his clan for eating the sheep. Kibaki also grabbed land, Moi we know how he grabbed only second to Kenyatta. You can't expect Uhuru to do anything. As you are asking a baby to cut their own umbilical cord. I don't want to talk about the other one.
I agree that Kenyatta made tribalism and nepotism a huge thread in the Kenyan fabric , and his dear friend, Moi, further pushed it. I was able to learn the history from people while living in Kenya back in 2022 (I was born in Trinidad 🇹🇹). Even in Nguhi wa Thiong’o’s prison memoir, on the first page is a photo copy of the order for his arrest, ordered by Jomo Kenyatta and signed by Moi. From my observations while living in Kenya, the essence of Moi is still very much alive, I noticed it everyday just in the usual politics even down to the way people go about their day and think. Nepotism is very strong in Kenya to the point that it really bothered me. I was sad to see how nepotism undermined the hard work and intelligence of Kenyans, to the point that even getting a job is very difficult (seems Kenyan companies are big on making everyone an “intern” nowadays).
@@joshuaombaka3116 ruclips.net/video/Brwo8HyU3Cg/видео.html
Every side of a story appears true until the other side is told .
True, but that is why we have to exercise our power of analysis.
Kung'u karumba was killed in Jinja by isaac maliamungu na kutupwa river nile
Kenyatta will never beat the allegations, first he sided with white settlers to b compensated for the land that they grabbed from Africans,then swindled mau mau the compensation money which was meant for maumau ...he will forever remain in the bad side of kenya history,the true history of Kenya is out ...That level of betrayal n selfishness just qualifies him to b a total sell out n being greedy to the core .
Worst of it was being a murderer
" Jomo alikua msaliti na atabaki kuwa msaliti hata kaburini!! Alivuna mahali hakupanda na wanaomuenzi waone vile alivyokua mnafki!! He cant be the founding father of the nation! Kenyans must strip him off this tittle and his mousoleam at nairobi removed!! Iread a book about him as a cook, his co inmates used to refuse to eat his food due to his hygine way of cooking!! Mzee Kaggia, get going, tell the nation the truth about our land how it went to the dogs!! The jomo family must be ashamed of their past!!
Jaramogi also messed us by kuapisha kenyatta
Moi'stoo
@@blessingsmaryAliapisha Kenyatta wapi? Don't follow pedestrian stories. There are good records of what transpired during the period leading to Kenya's independence. Read them and educate yourself.
I've gotten the real pic about Kung'u Karumba,,, someone somewhere was alleging that he was killed in Uganda....kumbe ilikuwa ni misinfo😮😢
It's actually true. Was killed by Amin's people
@@mwenyejii so which is which?
Kungu Karumba is the one that died in Uganda 1974-1978, its suspected to be a business related assassination. Dont confuse kungu karumba and bildad kaggia! Kungu karumba was more of a business person and kenyatta’s confidant. Bildad Kaggia died in 2005!
Is it that I didn't understand this message?
@@mwangimuhammad-sx9hb from Bildad Kaggia’s account in this video, he says that Kenyatta ( through thungu wanyoike) killed kungu karumba due to some land compensation issues. However, in most historical accounts kungu karumba died in Uganda somewhere between 1974-1979. I think its upon us to make our own conclusion based on evidences provided in both accounts.
Kusema watasema lakini ukweli aujuaye ni Mungu maana hadanganyiki
Hapo umenena
Kenyatta was planted by colonialists to serve imperialist interests They cleverly packaged him as a freedom hero while in reality he was being inducted to be an overlord. After independence, he became a grand thief and murderer
Where is kaagias voice?
The narrator is showing bias against Kaggia starting right from the written comments above!
What do we stand to gain??
This ain't Ur cup of tea...get out of here
Our future depends alot on our past,if this hidden things remain hidden,the memory haunts us and the community is torn apart by hatred.
Stupid
Yet the very people who suffered most from kenyattas land grabbing are the very diehard supporters of his family.
It is complicated. There is a lot of propaganda too. Of course he wasn't an angel
Kenyatta's betrayal of the KCA in London, and his telling Kaggia that he had resigned from politics and was NEVER going back to Kenya, while enjoying life with his Mzungu wife in UK, says it all😁. He even had time to do a movie with Paul Robeson (Sanders of the River) while there! Anyway, dear Kenyans, let us move on. All this happened over 60 years ago and there's no use crying over spilt milk. This world is inhumane and unfair. Politics is a dirty game everywhere. Weka kwa lungs, sio kwa roho. And please find Jesus otherwise you will suffer one million times more when you join Kenyatta on the other side! Remember he was trained under a mchawi and became a mchawi Freemason himself! That's how he got power in this evil, unjust world!
Hope you are not saying history does not matter
@@maumauchronicles4296 history matters, but let's not be prisoners to it. I'm actually a historian by training and can tell you for a fact that the Jomo story was the typical template of every African "leader" chosen by the colonialists/imperialists to transition their countries into "independence." They were always sent to the Fort Hares and Londons to learn to love the white man's ways. Then "jailed" just before "independence," before being "released" as heroic martyrs to become "Fathers of the Nation." Jomo, Mugabe, Kamuzu ... we can go on and on. Mandela was the biggest one. A fraudster of fraudsters. When he got out of Robben and was given the Presidency on a silver platter, what did the black man get? Zero. They (the chosen Presidents) all had to obey neocolonial orders. And you know what happened to those who later changed their minds (on the land issue especially) and rebelled - the Lumumbas, the Mugabes and so on! #NotYetUhuru
@@diasporareturnee interesting,isn't it?
I think its imperative we know where we are coming from, where we are and where we ought to be 'spilt milk' or not
Brother you are spot on.. Kenyatta living in the UK was all about initiating him into Freemasonry and the underworld of politics. This is the reason why our country will never be liberated from politics of slavery coz the foundations are all grounded on freemasonry.
Muaji akapigwa na bakora mpaka akatoroka". Sometimes things become difficult when politicians scuffle for power and losers falsed to go home to lick their wounds.
True that. Politics is war.
Harambee is an indian idol goddess (deity)
That's why our foundation as a nation was not grounded on African spiritualism but foreign concepts we knew nothing about.
The god that helped legislate Indians as a tribe in Kenya! Vomitous
The fact that you refer Kenyatta as hero, the whole meaning of heroism lack meaning. We know him as a father of corruption, land grabbing, tribalism and all social ills our nation is suffering. I think kenyans needs to have our history rewritten to define who our true heros were.
Now we got it!.jomo kenyatta like uhuru kenyatta was real hypocrite who uses others to ascend to presidency, then get rid of them!.uhuru kenyatta tried all means to get rid of Ruto. Just like his father who wanted to strike off bildad kagia, got rid of mboya,jm,field marshal musa mwariama.
That is your opinion.
@@maumauchronicles4296 But that's the truth. Where is the lie?
Why do guys have to use a guy with a foreign accent to speak on behalf of Kenyans matters. What does a foreigner know about the kenya freedom fight
Why was it found difficult to give land freely to the natives yet the white settlers were given huge chunks of land for free?
Good question. Very hard answers
Shout out to "Kenyarraa" ! 😂😂
The voice-over sounds colonial
Point taken.
I always tell people Kenyatta Was never Mau Mau member.He was a snitch.Snitched on Dedan
If he snitched on Dedan, than you are contradicting Kaggia who says that he knew nothing about Mau Mau
How would he snitch on Dedan when he was in Lokitaung jail?
Did Kenyatta at any point claim to have been a Mau Mau member? I can't recall that. But despite all his failings, as independence approached Kenyatta was a rallying symbol around which groups with divergent views and interests rallied, for better or for worse. Mau Mau's thought he was one of them. Kikuyu nationalism thought he was one of them. Leaders with moderate views across the country thought he was one of them. Everyone thought he was one of them. Even Kikuyu home guards saw hope in him after independence. But only he knew what he stood for. Which was selfish interest.
The narrator is definately a colonial apologist .
Maybe or maybe not.
Why???
Kenyatta was a true politician...
Kaggia is wrong to say otherwise
Karumba was no threat to Kenyatta govt n not accurate to state his death...
Pinto was detained in 1954_59, so no funds had been compensated.
Kaggia had alot of bitterness due to land distribution.
Some statements here need correction
True that
Njomo played his role in our liberation, his praises given to him by our grandfathers wasn't for nothing. When He died the country's trajectory changed
@@MauMauMwangi1My friend he blindsighted many n that s why many sang his praises not seeing his hypocrisy that people like Baimungi et all could c right thru
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I always wonder how the fuck we got that last colonial gavana jommo Kenyatta as the first independence president