Warpfire Challenge: Stormcast vs. Skaven (2024) Warhammer Age of Sigmar Battle Report

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • We're back for another challenge game! This time it's Stormcast with their Knight Judicators and Longstrikes trying to shoot down the poor innocent Rats. Can they weather the Storm?
    Army lists:
    Army Faction: Stormcast Eternals
    Army Type: Scions of the Storm
    Subfaction: Hallowed Knights
    Grand Strategy: Barren Icescape
    Triumph: Indomitable
    LEADERS
    Knight-Judicator with Gryph-hounds (180)*
    Knight-Judicator with Gryph-hounds (180)*
    Knight-Judicator with Gryph-hounds (180)*
    Knight-Judicator with Gryph-hounds (180)
    Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (250)
    General
    Command Traits: Master of Magic
    Artefacts of Power: Mirrorshield
    Mount Traits: Scintillating Trail
    Spells: Thundershock
    Gardus Steel Soul (160)
    BATTLELINE
    Vindictors (110)*
    Liberators (100)*
    Vindictors (110)
    OTHER
    Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (230)*
    Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (230)*
    ENDLESS SPELLS & INVOCATIONS
    1 x Everblaze Comet (90)
    CORE BATTALIONS
    *Battle Regiment
    **Warlord
    TOTAL POINTS: 2000/2000
    vs.
    Army Lists:
    Army Faction: Skaven
    Grand Strategy: Arch-corruptors of the Mortal Realms
    Triumph: Bloodthirsty
    LEADERS
    Grey Seer (110)*
    Spells: Death Frenzy, Merciless Blizzard
    Grey Seer (110)*
    Spells: Merciless Blizzard, Skitterleap
    Skabbik Plagueseeker (140)
    Prayers: Disease-disease!
    Plague Priest (100)
    Prayers: Heal
    Plague Priest On Plague Furnace (270)
    General
    Command Traits: Ridden with Poxes
    Artefacts of Power: The Fumigatous
    Prayers: Curse
    Lord Skreech Verminking (370)*
    BATTLELINE
    Clanrats (100)
    Clanrats (100)
    Plague Censer Bearers (200)
    OTHER
    Gutter Runners (200)
    Skabbik’s Plaguepack (140)
    Hell Pit Abomination (180)
    Warp-Grinder (60)
    Warp-Grinder (60)
    CORE BATTALIONS
    Andtorian Acolytes
    Warlord
    Battle Regiment
    TOTAL POINTS: 2000/2000

Комментарии • 50

  • @mckeighry
    @mckeighry 4 месяца назад +4

    1. Appreciate how you talk about the major swings caused by the Squall visibility effect, and then the endless spell model-to-model rule misinterpretation, without spoiling the end results.
    2. Holy liberators batman
    3. The clanrat reverse-charge into the pile-in to deny the SCE battle tactic was awesome.
    4. Your battle reports really showcase how important it is to play around objectives! Only need a few bodies at the end to squeak-squeak out a win.

  • @WolfChildRusk
    @WolfChildRusk 4 месяца назад +9

    Me: Wow, this is so entertaining.
    My brain: Write that rule down, write that tactic down ! 🐀

  • @Mackworth.13
    @Mackworth.13 4 месяца назад +2

    Masterclass in our scoring your appointment vs a scary list. Nicely done and great game!

  • @DS_painting
    @DS_painting 4 месяца назад +3

    Great battle report and really enjoyed the explanation of your strategy!

  • @tikkinikki1
    @tikkinikki1 4 месяца назад +3

    Your plan of throwing bodies on objectives and hope for the best worked out really well. Dice rolls weren't too hot on your side this time. In hindsight the SCE player probably should have focused more on your objective holders instead of your heroes. Awesome game even though it looked very dire in the beginning and with the mistake on vision.

  • @louisceriani3008
    @louisceriani3008 4 месяца назад +5

    (Sorry for m'y bad english)
    I would like to tank you
    I start tournaments recently
    I play skaven and I learnd so much from watching your battlereport
    In my first tournaments with my skaven i got third place

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +2

      That's awesome man, doing that well at your first tournaments is excellent and bodes well for the future!

  • @jasonmangelsen7136
    @jasonmangelsen7136 4 месяца назад +1

    Haven't even watched yet but already know it will be an awesome recap

  • @docrven4800
    @docrven4800 4 месяца назад

    Thanks, for your vids!
    I learn allot by your analys and Why you do thinks.
    As a Longe time Player love to See the Little things be so important. Move Models in the charge Phase into 6“ ….nit charging and failing his BT this way. Keep up the great work.
    Oh and one think. Love to her that even the Veterans make some mistakes some times…Good for the mental health of us all 😉

  • @paingenerator8338
    @paingenerator8338 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome win against a really tough list.

  • @irontanker1812
    @irontanker1812 4 месяца назад +1

    Your mastery of skaven is impressive.

  • @Fotta1989
    @Fotta1989 4 месяца назад +2

    That was a rough mission draw for him

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      Definitely fortunate for me on this one, but really it only impacted turn 1 in a big way; then on top of that we got the rule wrong so he still got to do damage to a big chunk of my force.

  • @WarpstoneHoarder
    @WarpstoneHoarder 4 месяца назад

    Hey man, I've been playing for a while but coherency still baffles me. How are you able to set up clanrats in a conga line? I thought they always had to be within 1" of two models. Would placing them in a single line leave the ones at the edges only within 1" of a single model?

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад

      For Clanrats specifically they're on a 25mm base, which is just shy of 1" so you can put three of them base to base to base on the ends of the line and stay in coherency! Or just build a little triangle on the end with three models.

    • @WarpstoneHoarder
      @WarpstoneHoarder 4 месяца назад

      @@warpfireminis that makes sense, thanks a lot! looking forward to the next BR!

  • @martinhgdahlzamastil4430
    @martinhgdahlzamastil4430 4 месяца назад

    Hello, I have a skaven question - not relating to the list you play: If a screaming bell has a command trait and turns into a verminlord - do the verminlord retain this command trait? Lets say devious adversary ...

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад

      The Screaming Bell doesn't change into a Verminlord, he just summons in an additional one and the Bell itself stays on the battlefield as well! So that new added one would not have a command trait.

    • @martinhgdahlzamastil4430
      @martinhgdahlzamastil4430 4 месяца назад

      @@warpfireminis sweet lord, so the screaming bell is still on the field, i read that as he transformed, ok in that case adding a verminlord is more than adequate reward, thanks for helping out 🥳

  • @joeharrington7170
    @joeharrington7170 4 месяца назад

    On the visability deal within 12" , the Kruleboyz got updated a while back with a "free" can't see unless within 12" rule for all the swamp fog. I got into the same Q/A with someone trying to cast into my troops round 1 saying a spell doesn't work the same. Guessing this works the same as your deal?

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      If the spell requires line of sight (some don't) then they'd need to be within 12" to target you.

  • @jarlaxlebanere206
    @jarlaxlebanere206 4 месяца назад

    Would you say he already lost half his advantage due to the mission limiting range attacks? Nice win by identifying his weakness and capitalizing on it. SCE always had issues with bodies to secure objective.

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад

      If we had played the rules correctly it would have been a bigger deal, but in this game it really only impacted turn 1 and using the other abilities he still did around 20 damage in his turn 1 shooting phase.

  • @markpandelidis2079
    @markpandelidis2079 4 месяца назад

    What are you talking about.
    Frigid zephyr battle plan quote:
    UNITS MORE THAN 12" APART ARE NOT VISIBLE TO EACH OTHER.
    Like what's the confusion? Pick a point on the battlefield is not visibly between units.
    Again, this was done properly.

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +4

      There's an FAQ for the Core Rules that clarifies that, "If an effect blocks visibility between 2 models, does it block line of sight to an Endless Spell or Point in a battlefield?" and the answer is "Yes."

    • @markpandelidis2079
      @markpandelidis2079 4 месяца назад

      @@warpfireminis ah. I can't wait until 4th when we finally get the old rules writers out. That literally contradicts what's written in the core rules. Sorry I was not aware of that FAQ. It's not right, but I guess it is what they want even though it's completely wrong.

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      Haha no sweat, I didn't know about it either until after the game! ​@@markpandelidis2079

    • @martinhgdahlzamastil4430
      @martinhgdahlzamastil4430 4 месяца назад

      just a comment, I think it is perfectly right to block line of sight to point on the battle field if line of sight is generally blocked by such a distance between models, it would seem odd to say you cant see my unit … but oh you can see the point behind them from where you are and just hit that with an area effect. Nothing to do with this match, just in generel terms.

    • @markpandelidis2079
      @markpandelidis2079 4 месяца назад

      @@martinhgdahlzamastil4430 ya I agree. My problem is, that's literally not what they wrote. They actually word for word wrote units. So if the intent is for units to have no visibility beyond 12" of them, then they should've written that. Not FAQ it to contradict what's written.
      Because look at out of the mists from Grinnin' Blades Kruleboyz. It says that the units in the KB army are not visible. That doesn't prevent aoe effects from hitting them like the comet. So a squall that blocks visibility prevents you from seeing the ground, but mist that prevents visibility to units doesn't prevent you from seeing the ground.

  • @pbodyjel87
    @pbodyjel87 4 месяца назад

    Also did the roll for the squall to disappear fail every battle round??

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      Squall went away at the start of 3! Mentioned it at the start of the round.

    • @pbodyjel87
      @pbodyjel87 4 месяца назад

      @@warpfireminis I missed that.. I just remember at the top of battle bottom of battle round 5 you said he could not shoot because be won't be within 12... I am guessing that's a skaven ability that denied his shooting in that moment! 🤔 those rats are sneaky

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      @@pbodyjel87 Bottom of 5 I was referring to the new-er Look Out Sir; he couldn't target the Heroes because they were within 3" of another unit with 3 or more models (the Clanrats) and outside of 12".

  • @scottpfaff7804
    @scottpfaff7804 4 месяца назад

    Jordan doesn’t lose. I love buying from warpfire. Love the technical and strategic talk throughs.
    I’m starting to find myself rooting for the challengers though. The man just wins too much. He’s too good.
    I guess it’s true. You either die a hero or live long enough to become the bad guy.
    😂😂😂 love these recaps.
    Do people bring their armies to play? Is the recap just you replaying the battle and recording it?

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      Haha, I've definitely found more and more people rooting for the other side as the Challenge games go on. Classic life of a rat!
      People bring their own armies in for the Challenge games, then I just use shop armies (we have them all) to walk back through them when we get a chance to film later on!

    • @scottpfaff7804
      @scottpfaff7804 4 месяца назад +1

      @@warpfireminis love it. I def am rooting for you. Really do enjoy these.
      I would love to see some pictures / video of the challenger armies. That would be a great little addition to the videos.

  • @Vortid
    @Vortid 4 месяца назад

    Failing a tactic because a unit got within 6, that'll be something a lot of player gets to experience soon enough...

  • @jacobjulin
    @jacobjulin 4 месяца назад

    I think you played the rule right

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +1

      There's an FAQ for the Core Rules that clarifies that, "If an effect blocks visibility between 2 models, does it block line of sight to an Endless Spell or Point in a battlefield?" and the answer is "Yes."

  • @timothypage3181
    @timothypage3181 4 месяца назад

    FIRST!!

  • @C.Aardvark
    @C.Aardvark 4 месяца назад +1

    One sided battle reports are pretty dependent on credibility and I’m starting to distrust videos where the poster never loses.

    • @WolfChildRusk
      @WolfChildRusk 4 месяца назад +3

      He has lost

    • @chriskennedy4323
      @chriskennedy4323 4 месяца назад +5

      Jordan is an honest dude so you don't have to worry about him faking the wins. He is extremely technical and his army gives him alot more control of the dices rolls because of the way he built it. Having the option to use your first run and charge roll is amazing. Add the extra pile in for a 6 inch pile in on everything but the first unit, retreat and charge on the clanrats and immunity to battleshock near the furnace, the man is a menace to play against.

    • @Mechman2001
      @Mechman2001 4 месяца назад +1

      I can confirm the battle reports are legitimate! Also, Jordan is VERY good at the game and always pushes his opponents hard!

    • @alexanderthomas668
      @alexanderthomas668 4 месяца назад +4

      I was his opponent trust me it was 100% correct

    • @warpfireminis
      @warpfireminis  4 месяца назад +4

      Right now for the Challenge games I'm sitting at 21-3, so there are a couple more losing videos on the way! Deepkin was the first and it's already up, but who's next?!