It starts with him leading the press not giving the palace defenders and goal keeper anytime. And in position he was the glue man with his intricate link up play and was really good. The moment Rashford came on the pressing vanished and palace started to have a foothold on the game.
true but bringing him off was the right decision, we should of had the game won at that point and the last thing we want is Zirkzee being overplayed early in the season and getting injured cos like you say he looked class.
Glad the Bruno convo is coming to the fore amongst the comment section. Some of us have beem saying it for a while, others are just finally realising. Its getting to the point where he's almost playing against us. Too many scenarios break down with him and the opposition are onto us. He gives away the ball for free, under zero pressure, everywhere on the pitch. Its just not good enough. The balance is not there. His positives are not outweighing his negatives. This is a team/squad game - he is just another memeber of the squad and should be subbed/rotated however you want to put it.
Didn't think it was that serious before. But after this, I see how careless he is with the ball. Barnsley as well. He comes on, all of a sudden we don't have the ball anymore. Catastrophic
@@uTAPOUT1 lmao because seven hag dont have clear plan, just hope for those moment. you gonna finish at 6-8 again this season with erik ten excuses in charge
@@uTAPOUT1 That's on the manager. If you have a consistent style of play drilled through out the team. There's no need to rely on one player to create for you. ETH is just a terrible manager.
Can someone explain to me what happened in the last 20 minutes? Martinez hogging the ball for 30 seconds, passing back... long ball to Hojlund, lose ball. Rinse and repeat. The last 20 minutes was the most pathetic display I've seen considering we were playing Palace for an important 3 points.
Martinez was doing exactly what he was doing in the first half when we're totally dominant. It was working in the first half because we had Ericsson and Zirkzee who are excellent technically and we were slicing them apart. But Ugarte and Rashford aren't as good on the ball so Martinez was going route one with the long pass ahead to Hoijlund.
Martinez held the ball because there was no good passing options, especially as Palace became better structurally. ETH is pushing our best players high e.g. Maino was floating in Cam but we needed Maino to drop deep and help build play from deep.
football players play football, athletes run around. Taking off all our truly creative players and replacing them all with low IQ runners killed any chance of us scoring and relinquished control. Add on to that leaving bruno high risk low reward on the pitch to do what he does meant the late win was unlikely
If you cant win a game football please do not lose it... thats wat happened .. as we drew towards the end er wer growing concerns that Palace could nik it .. i think thats y ey wer tryn to get some form of control
Bruno is getting scapegoated, he was still involved in a lot of chances created, the problem is, he shouldn't be our captain, and the manager needs to have the balls to take him off when his performance is getting worse
That what Saeed? That we have players who was unlucky to score goals this season? Or Ten Hag made subs because players were unable to win the game first half?.
Not sure when people will realise bruno is a problem. Yeah his stats are good but I'd rather someone take care of the ball more in key moments. He forces the Hollywood option every single time! And we have 3/4 years more of him minimum on his wage and because he is captain.
All Bruno does is kick the ball forward when ever he gets it. We won against Antonio Conte's ist season tottenham under Rangnick when Bruno was dropped. Last season, the only game we won comfortably with control was against crystal palace where Bruno was benched and last few games where he was false 9 and had less of the ball for him to lose. Last season, our b team was playing good football in preseason. Our A team with Bruno couldnt string together more than 2 passes in opposition half without losing the ball
@@Roddersville -___- What do you mean rubbish? He got robbed of the ball at his feet way too many times. His passes were completely rushed and went nowhere. He made so many bad decisions. He is not beyond undroppable. There's nothing wrong with having him sit on the bench for a bit. Even using the outside of the boot for that open goal was a bad decision. Why take such a difficult technique when all you had to do was side foot the ball. Seriously, go look back at his player cam for the game. He was horrible
Bruno should sub and change to ugarte. Eriksen was good. Garnacho was good always run to get ball. He had the most shoot on target compare to other attacking players.
When Zerkzee and Ericson went off play started going through bruno, every time he got the ball he tried Hollywood passes and with every pass it looked like he was sucking the life out of all the other players. Bruno is an agent of chaos he only thrives when the team doesn't have any order or structure but in games like yesterday when everyone was doing they’re part and running patterns of play he disrupts the team and flow of the game by always looking to do something that's outrageous, it might work for him sometimes but 9/10 he losses possession cause of it and disrupts the momentum. But it's not completely on bruno cause players follow the couching staffs instructions and that meant ETH and his staff are telling him to play that way and don't have a problem with it cause the almost close to never subs him due to performance!!!!
All Bruno does is kick the ball forward when ever he gets it. We won against Antonio Conte's ist season tottenham under Rangnick when Bruno was dropped. Last season, the only game we won comfortably with control was against crystal palace where Bruno was benched and last few games where he was false 9 and had less of the ball for him to lose. Last season, our b team was playing good football in preseason. Our A team with Bruno couldnt string together more than 2 passes in opposition half without losing the ball
Blaming bad subs is not a fair assessment. We needed subs, if the players we subbed got injured, you would be onto the manager. The subs didn’t perform
@@geelx72 Bruno cannot play possession based football he’s too reckless. A lot of the goals that man utd conceded starts from him giving the ball away. Against palace today, that double save that onana made came directly from him giving the ball away. He needs replacing
This! If you know football, you know Bruno is one of the biggest problems at United. It is masked as he gets a ton of goals and assists against poor sides but then always goes missing against the big teams. His mentality in interviews as United captain perfectly describes what has happen to our club. Let’s also not forget the diving and crying antics in every match along with him captaining and then quitting in our 7-0 loss to Liverpool, our biggest in club history.
Compared to last season when we got thumped by palace we played very well today and was unlucky we score all those chances and no one is pointing fingers at the manager , utd fans want to win and play good football it’s getting there we continue to play like this the wins will come
@@mm2801 Let's not rewrite history. Palace only literally had 1 actual shot in the first half and Man Utd should have been 3-0 up at the end of the half.
@TheIceMurder2 eze had a chance from a cut back in the Box unmarked in the box under no pressure from a defender with the whole goal to aim at. Compare that too garnachos 2 chances the second was on the half volley and infinitely more difficult. I didn't say they had more chances I said the higher quality chances
No doubt, Bruno gave the ball away the most. I don't get the value in Hojlund. What does he do? I thought Amad kept the ball well but didn't penetrate. Great displays from the back four and keeper as well as Eriksen and Garnacho. Not sure Zirkzee knows how to finish.
If you really watched that game you would see that the RB for palace didn’t attack at all because Amad is good in 1v1. There was always 2 players close to Amad that’s Garnacho had space on the other side
We dominated them but couldnt kill them. Garnacho should have been swapped for Rashford after 60+ minutes. Honestly i would have been happy with Bruno off for Mount. He has lead in his boots at the moment.
“ BRUNO BORINGDES “ I have NEVER LIKED HIM as a Man United fan cuz he is OVERRATED & he always behaves childish in every match, OH MY GOD what a SOFT-CAPTAIN we have💀🤦🏻♂️
casemiro is a great box crasher and is creative with inventive passing. Leaving him on the bench to bring in ugarte who is a runner whose best attributes are energy and kicking people is backwards!
These stupid questions keep Ten Hag as the coach because you have it in your mind that there aren't enough players to do a better job than Ten Hag's picks. Ten Hag isn't United. He is being protected like he's the best coach we've had since Sir Alex. In reality, he's consolidated our position as a mid table team.
I WILL KEEP SAYING THIS ETH FOR ALL I KNOW FOR A CLUB THE SIZE OF UNITED IS A TACTICAL NOVICE. EVERYTIME HE SUBS IT MAKES US WORSE . SEE HOW PALACE COACH SUBS CHANGED THE GAME IN THEIR FAVOR.
Yo, to even get this team playing as a team is Major Success. To only mention one player as having a bad game is also Success. United were really unlucky. But they were fighting for the badge..thats wat we want to see more of..Better results are coming.
You can tell the squad slowly transformed in terms of the player profile, which leaves the carries of the old system exposed. Garnacho, Rashford and Bruno are remains of the good 'ol let's hoof the ball and hope quick feet can reach it and convert. They stick out like a sore thump. They are simple misfits. If we only had another technically gifted winger who can link up with Zirkzee and Amad.. oh .. ya well, our Manager blew that one as well..
Weeellllll we survived. I think momentum swing went in our favour when Zhirkzee and Eriksen went off. Eze should have scored and Onana made a great double save but in all honesty, we should have been about 4 down at half time. Defo take a point and run
I would say I'm in the camp of thinking this manager isn't good enough, but up until the subs I was fine with how we were playing. If we do more of that the results will follow. If we resort back to chaos ball just lumping the ball long, then we will have the same season as last year. There's enough there for Ten Hag to work with. But need more of it and he does need results.
The control is "there" when we start Eriksen Zirkzee kobbie Amad. However we have mount, basically a new signing, ugarte new signing, casemiro, we look decent in possession with him in that team but going forward he will not be starting regularly, we have Bruno whose style is anti possession and his our captain. His the biggest problem in the midfield.
All Bruno does is kick the ball forward when ever he gets it. We won against Antonio Conte's ist season tottenham under Rangnick when Bruno was dropped. Last season, the only game we won comfortably with control was against crystal palace where Bruno was benched and last few games where he was false 9 and had less of the ball for him to lose.
my realization from majority of Utd fans don't realize what style of play is... they understand winning...you can talk all day about patterns...possession...passing. in the end they understand winning as style of play.
Change of tactic in the 2nd half. Brought on counter attacking players for possession based players against a team playing a low block.... Garnacho and Rashford plays the same game. Who's suppose to provide to Hojlund? Had to move Eriksen to 10 and replaced Rashford for Garnacho. ETH needs to believe in the system!
As soon as Glasner made tactical switches, ten hag had no response like he usually does, his in game management is horrible. That’s 7/15 points. Doesn’t matter how “well” we played today
It does our players a big disservice when they play well and people like Flex say palace were poor or playing badly. They played badly because we were playing so well. Give the team their credit. We just weren't clinical and Bruno was very poor.
What I don’t get is why people only see this in Bruno when we don’t score. He plays the same every game. We’re never going to progress with him. No coincidence we scored (yes against poor opposition) freely without him
I predicted a draw, but I assumed there would be a goal or two from both sides. A real lack of dangerous threat upfront from United. Rashford seems easy to defend against these days. Garnacho is the only threat. It all has a very mid-table look about it.
Rashford is finally firing, so why does ETH put him on ice. ETH seems to not like peaceful times, he makes decisions that invite criticism. And I understand that Eriksen played well against Barnsley and today, but that decision will bite him in ass more times than not, I rather see Eriksen coming on for Bruno in the 10 and/or starting against much lesser opposition. Ugarte is certainly fit, he played 90 for Uruguay over the break, why not get him asap. This United team reminds me of the young Arsenal team with Theo Walcott that Wegner struggled with. Up and down, up and down.
Everyone is to blame..the players infront of goal were rubbish…the subs were poor as well… I’m at a point where I just don’t think Ten Hag will work.. Any time there is some hope or optimism, he does something to challenge himself,yesterday was a self-sabotage and we’ve seen it multiple times Team selections, game management, player relations… there’s always a variation of some problem
Would be interesting to see Bruno's heat map vs other top six 10s such as Odegaard and Maddison and kdb , he's too erratic positionally and playstyle to sustain a title charging team
What’s pathetic and shows how far the club is going backwards is we are now praising ETH for performances and results that we criticised Ole for and said weren’t good enough! We saw that exact match a few times under Ole! And people used it to criticise him as not good enough and NOW the ETH excuse makers are holding the exact same performances as SIGNS OF IMPROVEMENT?!! 🤦🏼♂️
Bruno is erratic because he lacks the physicality, dribbling skills and pace to get away from a press so he gets rid of the ball at first chance. Casemiro + ugarte + mainoo is our best midfield by far. Bruno is a super sub, I've saying this for 2 seasons now. Mainoo in the 10 with zirkzee as a 9 allows us to have two playmakers who are press resistant in that area of the pitch. The two of them can attract 4 players towards them leaving space for wingers to attack
Mate you literally complained when he took him off vs Brighton, you said leave him on he could come up with something.. his our creator he took some chances and it didn’t come off.. we are competing for top four we are gonna have varying performances.. looking good at the moment.
I personally think if the manager was gonna play erikson he should have subed bruno for ugarte or casimero to play kobbie and erikson high up the pitch and the front three need to stay atleast untill we score if we were ever scoring
I love Bruno… and I don’t get the Bruno out bandwagon… but he’s been playing bad in these two past games, and the manager should have taken him off yesterday he wasn’t impacting the game, losing balls consecutively in one phase of play. But we know the manager to play players through bad patches, was it because he didn’t have a fit squad idk, but in my opinion that’s what he loves to do.
We played well. We don’t have any players you’d bet you house on, in front of goal. Amad, Garnacho, Rashford, Rasmus, Zirkzee, Bruno. Good players but not one of those are clinical. Pointless banging on about subs. If we score no one talks about it.
Been saying it , will always say it. With Bruno , the team will never ever improve & progress. He’s just a stat padding player. With Bruno , Rashford and Ten Hag United gonna continue in the regression.
Whoever told Ten Hag that Rashford has to play gave him.bad advice. Taking out Amad & Zirkzee + Eriksen is crazy business because those are literally our best ball players / playmakers. Then you expect Rashford , Bruno & Ugarte to feed Rasmus.....FFS😂
Said it from last season , there’s not enough goals in this squad . Utd need at least one absolutely ruthless goal scorer who can get you 20 goals a season.
10 goals scored, 0 goals conceded in 3 games. Hit the woodwork 3 times in the first half, could have very easily been leading the game at half time. Guess what, ETH can’t score goals. We can’t complain some weeks that we don’t create any chances and that’s the managers fault, then when we create chances and we don’t score, it’s still the managers fault? Lot of positives in this performance in my opinion, not perfect clearly, but there are steps forward there.
Lol you let a win against bottom of the league and league 1 team gas you. 2 wins in 5 and you think ten haag is the man. Looking forward to the loss against Tottenham next week
Can somebody tell me what is good or positive about Martinez thinking he’s some god of football holding onto the ball for massive amounts of time and walking round pitch with the ball until he comes to a stand still it’s embarrassing we’re drawing 0-0 with palace and he’s playing like we’re 3-0 up he’s so over rated it’s scary.
Well why were the players being subbed if they were scoring? You leave the manager to makes subs, this fan base man, the manager had to sub players because they were not scoring with all the creativity he put on the pitch, man United fans blame the manager but will not blame the players for not scoring, Bruno was awful and was to be subbed that I can blame ten hag for the rest didn’t go because you as a manager can only put players on the field to play and win and if they don’t is both the players then the manager. Is not like we were playing bad, we dominated the first half and some parts in the second half to have won the game. The players are not clinical is time we call it out instead of pointing fingers at ten hag. @Flex I disagree with most parts of your takes
Who the hell kept Bruno on the pitch? The manager!!! Who said the players aren't blamed? I think some fans in this toxic fambase will blame the wind direction and every blade of grass before Ten Hag. There's always something he isn't doing right. The subs are wrong? It's easy to acknowledge that fact but somehow, it's difficult to acknowledge the fact that ETH isn't the right man for the job? He has risen above the club because, somehow, he's now above reproach. He kept on awful players. Perhaps the players you think were awful are the ones he is most impressed by. He keeps them on after all🤡
Karma for United, Henderson was United's best keeper and we let him go and no one thinks anything of it lol, Henderson saved palace today and that's what old players who leave do, they come back to haunt you.
All this talk of our best half of football is hyperbole. We dominated possession yet the best chance of the half fell to EZE who received the ball from a cut back free in the box with no defenders around and fired at the keeper with the whole goal to aim at. This was also the case in the 2nd half with again the best chance falling for palace. The manger is at fault for the result; the starting line up and then debilitating subs. The facts are garnacho is simply not as effective starting games, the chances he missed are expected when you consider his average technique and poor composure. The subs killed us taking of our only real creative and technically secure players and replacing them with runners is ridiculous. Only one chance coming after removing our attacking glue zrkzee. Rashford (the original garnacho) No impact. Hojland( apparently a top young striker) Not a single shot. NO impact . Urgate ( Energy and running) with casemiro left on the bench. Its also quite amusing so many people critizeing bruno performance as if this is a new trend this is bruno! if he doesn't or does get G/A this is a typical performance a hindrance to our overall play. HE IS A ENEMY OF FOOTBALL
When Zirkzee left the pitch so did our football! He was class and we were playing class until he came off
It starts with him leading the press not giving the palace defenders and goal keeper anytime. And in position he was the glue man with his intricate link up play and was really good. The moment Rashford came on the pressing vanished and palace started to have a foothold on the game.
Or Rashford came on
true but bringing him off was the right decision, we should of had the game won at that point and the last thing we want is Zirkzee being overplayed early in the season and getting injured cos like you say he looked class.
@@Tdogggchanges were too late Erikson was tired at 55mins
@@Tdoggg should have at least left Amad on so we had at least 1 player in our attack with composure on the ball
Glad the Bruno convo is coming to the fore amongst the comment section.
Some of us have beem saying it for a while, others are just finally realising. Its getting to the point where he's almost playing against us. Too many scenarios break down with him and the opposition are onto us.
He gives away the ball for free, under zero pressure, everywhere on the pitch. Its just not good enough. The balance is not there. His positives are not outweighing his negatives. This is a team/squad game - he is just another memeber of the squad and should be subbed/rotated however you want to put it.
Didn't think it was that serious before. But after this, I see how careless he is with the ball. Barnsley as well. He comes on, all of a sudden we don't have the ball anymore. Catastrophic
@@sechabatheletsane9784 Bruno gets exposed when rest of the team is playing well.
They called Saeed crazy when he pointed out how much of a problem Bruno is. Only this fanbase rates him so highly….
Everyone knows Bruno is a problem, but when you’re shit you need to play players who can have moments, because moments is what we rely on.
@@uTAPOUT1not if he’s a big part of us playing shit
@@uTAPOUT1 lmao because seven hag dont have clear plan, just hope for those moment. you gonna finish at 6-8 again this season with erik ten excuses in charge
I’ve been saying it for 3 seasons ! Everyone thinks I’m crazy … literally playing with him is like playing with 10 men!
@@uTAPOUT1 That's on the manager. If you have a consistent style of play drilled through out the team. There's no need to rely on one player to create for you. ETH is just a terrible manager.
Said 2 seasons ago bruno is shocking , ppl laughed 😊😊😊
Drop Bruno
Can someone explain to me what happened in the last 20 minutes? Martinez hogging the ball for 30 seconds, passing back... long ball to Hojlund, lose ball. Rinse and repeat. The last 20 minutes was the most pathetic display I've seen considering we were playing Palace for an important 3 points.
We dont have mctominay or fellaini as plan bs
Martinez was doing exactly what he was doing in the first half when we're totally dominant. It was working in the first half because we had Ericsson and Zirkzee who are excellent technically and we were slicing them apart. But Ugarte and Rashford aren't as good on the ball so Martinez was going route one with the long pass ahead to Hoijlund.
Martinez held the ball because there was no good passing options, especially as Palace became better structurally. ETH is pushing our best players high e.g. Maino was floating in Cam but we needed Maino to drop deep and help build play from deep.
football players play football, athletes run around. Taking off all our truly creative players and replacing them all with low IQ runners killed any chance of us scoring and relinquished control. Add on to that leaving bruno high risk low reward on the pitch to do what he does meant the late win was unlikely
If you cant win a game football please do not lose it... thats wat happened .. as we drew towards the end er wer growing concerns that Palace could nik it .. i think thats y ey wer tryn to get some form of control
I mean not every team is the mighty Barnsley!!! 🙈
Fantastic improvement from last season's 4-0 trouncing, heading in right direction
😂😂😂😂😂
TEN HAG INNNNN
What's funniest with these type of comments is that you're not even sure if someone's trolling or dead serious anymore.
It’s fuccin palace
The lack of urgency to get a late winner just shows where we are at and how the standards have fallen.
Maguire is the issue, Dropped
Case is the issue, Dropped
Rash is the issue, Dropped
Now its bruno 🤣
They all are an issue thought 😂
Bruno is getting scapegoated, he was still involved in a lot of chances created, the problem is, he shouldn't be our captain, and the manager needs to have the balls to take him off when his performance is getting worse
@@nmz3450 very well said bro
@@nmz3450 he is involved in a lot of chances created but he is also responsible for the chaos being caused by him.
It's been Bruno for a long time. People just don't understand it.
Told you lot 😂. 👀
Told em what?
You seem to care far more about being "right" than anything else 🙄
@@BatteryBee yea defo but Bruno was piss poor
That what Saeed? That we have players who was unlucky to score goals this season? Or Ten Hag made subs because players were unable to win the game first half?.
You’d rather be right than see United win. Toxic fans.
Not sure when people will realise bruno is a problem. Yeah his stats are good but I'd rather someone take care of the ball more in key moments. He forces the Hollywood option every single time! And we have 3/4 years more of him minimum on his wage and because he is captain.
Bruno been stinking d joint since the beginning of the season
And long before that as well mate. He was only great for the first 6 months when he got to the club. Been shite ever since
All Bruno does is kick the ball forward when ever he gets it. We won against Antonio Conte's ist season tottenham under Rangnick when Bruno was dropped. Last season, the only game we won comfortably with control was against crystal palace where Bruno was benched and last few games where he was false 9 and had less of the ball for him to lose.
Last season, our b team was playing good football in preseason. Our A team with Bruno couldnt string together more than 2 passes in opposition half without losing the ball
Palace fan here in peace….Ericsson was running the game - he was incredible..him being substituted was when the game changed
Bruno needs to be dropped!!!
Rubbish !
shut up
Agreed
@@simon8610 shut up
@@Roddersville -___- What do you mean rubbish? He got robbed of the ball at his feet way too many times. His passes were completely rushed and went nowhere. He made so many bad decisions. He is not beyond undroppable. There's nothing wrong with having him sit on the bench for a bit. Even using the outside of the boot for that open goal was a bad decision. Why take such a difficult technique when all you had to do was side foot the ball. Seriously, go look back at his player cam for the game. He was horrible
True Ten has his favorite players and never subs them
I’d play Zirkzee and Hojlund together as Hojlund’s health allows.
Bruno should sub and change to ugarte. Eriksen was good. Garnacho was good always run to get ball. He had the most shoot on target compare to other attacking players.
Last year it was Rashford not being subbed despite the poor form. This year seems to be Bruno. Our manager learns and adapts at a glacial pace
When Zerkzee and Ericson went off play started going through bruno, every time he got the ball he tried Hollywood passes and with every pass it looked like he was sucking the life out of all the other players. Bruno is an agent of chaos he only thrives when the team doesn't have any order or structure but in games like yesterday when everyone was doing they’re part and running patterns of play he disrupts the team and flow of the game by always looking to do something that's outrageous, it might work for him sometimes but 9/10 he losses possession cause of it and disrupts the momentum. But it's not completely on bruno cause players follow the couching staffs instructions and that meant ETH and his staff are telling him to play that way and don't have a problem with it cause the almost close to never subs him due to performance!!!!
All Bruno does is kick the ball forward when ever he gets it. We won against Antonio Conte's ist season tottenham under Rangnick when Bruno was dropped. Last season, the only game we won comfortably with control was against crystal palace where Bruno was benched and last few games where he was false 9 and had less of the ball for him to lose.
Last season, our b team was playing good football in preseason. Our A team with Bruno couldnt string together more than 2 passes in opposition half without losing the ball
Blaming bad subs is not a fair assessment. We needed subs, if the players we subbed got injured, you would be onto the manager. The subs didn’t perform
Im sorry but anybody happy with yesterday's performance is insane 😂
Been saying Bruno Fernandes is the biggest issue in that team. He more of a liability than an asset
what u talkin bout??
@@geelx72 Bruno cannot play possession based football he’s too reckless. A lot of the goals that man utd conceded starts from him giving the ball away. Against palace today, that double save that onana made came directly from him giving the ball away. He needs replacing
@@D-cOnSeRvAtIvE-nUBiAnIndeed
Giving the ball away 40 times a game but it gets covered because he scores a goal or provides a key assist
Want a medal for it?
This! If you know football, you know Bruno is one of the biggest problems at United.
It is masked as he gets a ton of goals and assists against poor sides but then always goes missing against the big teams.
His mentality in interviews as United captain perfectly describes what has happen to our club.
Let’s also not forget the diving and crying antics in every match along with him captaining and then quitting in our 7-0 loss to Liverpool, our biggest in club history.
Compared to last season when we got thumped by palace we played very well today and was unlucky we score all those chances and no one is pointing fingers at the manager , utd fans want to win and play good football it’s getting there we continue to play like this the wins will come
played well but the best chances in the game fell to palace?
@@mm2801 Let's not rewrite history. Palace only literally had 1 actual shot in the first half and Man Utd should have been 3-0 up at the end of the half.
@TheIceMurder2 eze had a chance from a cut back in the Box unmarked in the box under no pressure from a defender with the whole goal to aim at. Compare that too garnachos 2 chances the second was on the half volley and infinitely more difficult. I didn't say they had more chances I said the higher quality chances
We played amazing first half, should finish our dinner man … we deserved the 3 points today.
Ten Hag's subs...either they are pre-planned or he runs a poll on that tablet. subs were awful.
So questionnable, you've gotta wonder what he sees sometimes.
The only issue here is the players not finishing their chances. Stop blaming the manager.
Spot on assessments
No doubt, Bruno gave the ball away the most. I don't get the value in Hojlund. What does he do? I thought Amad kept the ball well but didn't penetrate. Great displays from the back four and keeper as well as Eriksen and Garnacho. Not sure Zirkzee knows how to finish.
If you really watched that game you would see that the RB for palace didn’t attack at all because Amad is good in 1v1. There was always 2 players close to Amad that’s Garnacho had space on the other side
@@mofedickson7876 Makes no difference. Amad didn't penetrate.
What happened? I thought man utd were back after beating the great Barnsley? 😂
Thought so too 🤷🏽♂️
We dominated them but couldnt kill them. Garnacho should have been swapped for Rashford after 60+ minutes.
Honestly i would have been happy with Bruno off for Mount. He has lead in his boots at the moment.
“ BRUNO BORINGDES “
I have NEVER LIKED HIM as a Man United fan cuz he is OVERRATED & he always behaves childish in every match, OH MY GOD what a SOFT-CAPTAIN we have💀🤦🏻♂️
There's a problem . We have given bruno the captain's armband and a huge contract.
You and KG are backing the manager because you don’t want to lose access to the club.
thought we played well heads up
Its so sad that Since 3 Games Onana is just world class he saved United at all Points .
I said after the Liverpool game goals are the only way to actually control the game
It's so easy to "Subs all Wrong".. who would you have brought on?
Bring on Ugarte/Casemiro for bruno and push Eriksen forward.
Keep Amad and Zirkzee, sub Garnacho for Rashford.
Just don't take off Zirkzee. Almost every chance was involving him
casemiro is a great box crasher and is creative with inventive passing. Leaving him on the bench to bring in ugarte who is a runner whose best attributes are energy and kicking people is backwards!
These stupid questions keep Ten Hag as the coach because you have it in your mind that there aren't enough players to do a better job than Ten Hag's picks.
Ten Hag isn't United. He is being protected like he's the best coach we've had since Sir Alex. In reality, he's consolidated our position as a mid table team.
@@mm2801we were getting overrun on the counter.Ugarte was needed to control the pace and and shut those quick breaks palace was hitting us with.
You lot are seeing a coaching problem and yet picking a player to blame every week. Ten Hag will take us down. He is a fraud.
I WILL KEEP SAYING THIS ETH FOR ALL I KNOW FOR A CLUB THE SIZE OF UNITED IS A TACTICAL NOVICE. EVERYTIME HE SUBS IT MAKES US WORSE . SEE HOW PALACE COACH SUBS CHANGED THE GAME IN THEIR FAVOR.
350K a week for this
Yo, to even get this team playing as a team is Major Success. To only mention one player as having a bad game is also Success. United were really unlucky. But they were fighting for the badge..thats wat we want to see more of..Better results are coming.
You can tell the squad slowly transformed in terms of the player profile, which leaves the carries of the old system exposed. Garnacho, Rashford and Bruno are remains of the good 'ol let's hoof the ball and hope quick feet can reach it and convert.
They stick out like a sore thump. They are simple misfits. If we only had another technically gifted winger who can link up with Zirkzee and Amad.. oh .. ya well, our Manager blew that one as well..
Weeellllll we survived. I think momentum swing went in our favour when Zhirkzee and Eriksen went off.
Eze should have scored and Onana made a great double save but in all honesty, we should have been about 4 down at half time.
Defo take a point and run
This game was a technical game as much as we like rashy,hojland we didn't have to we just needed those who were on the field
I would say I'm in the camp of thinking this manager isn't good enough, but up until the subs I was fine with how we were playing. If we do more of that the results will follow. If we resort back to chaos ball just lumping the ball long, then we will have the same season as last year. There's enough there for Ten Hag to work with. But need more of it and he does need results.
The control is "there" when we start Eriksen Zirkzee kobbie Amad. However we have mount, basically a new signing, ugarte new signing, casemiro, we look decent in possession with him in that team but going forward he will not be starting regularly, we have Bruno whose style is anti possession and his our captain. His the biggest problem in the midfield.
Mainoo should play 10. Eriksen and Ugarte in the pivot
All Bruno does is kick the ball forward when ever he gets it. We won against Antonio Conte's ist season tottenham under Rangnick when Bruno was dropped. Last season, the only game we won comfortably with control was against crystal palace where Bruno was benched and last few games where he was false 9 and had less of the ball for him to lose.
my realization from majority of Utd fans don't realize what style of play is... they understand winning...you can talk all day about patterns...possession...passing. in the end they understand winning as style of play.
You UV lot still laughing at Saeed for calling Bruno a net negative? He’s a relegation side player
‘ The patterns of play of were there ‘ stopped the video when I heard that 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
TH always has good excuses as usual. The 7-0 doesn't mean anything.
Change of tactic in the 2nd half. Brought on counter attacking players for possession based players against a team playing a low block.... Garnacho and Rashford plays the same game. Who's suppose to provide to Hojlund? Had to move Eriksen to 10 and replaced Rashford for Garnacho. ETH needs to believe in the system!
Next game in the prem will see Zirzee with garnacho warming bench for rasmus and rashy.
Zirkzee is all class. Couldn’t believe he was taken off. Look at Bologna now!
@@paulmckay5747 look at united now
As soon as Glasner made tactical switches, ten hag had no response like he usually does, his in game management is horrible. That’s 7/15 points. Doesn’t matter how “well” we played today
Before the game so many people we're talkin bout' having the quality to play in a good way which is what we did
It does our players a big disservice when they play well and people like Flex say palace were poor or playing badly. They played badly because we were playing so well. Give the team their credit. We just weren't clinical and Bruno was very poor.
Stop moaning all u so called RUclipsrs or pundits been hyping Bruno for years as a Messi level player he is a decent player nothing special
What I don’t get is why people only see this in Bruno when we don’t score. He plays the same every game. We’re never going to progress with him. No coincidence we scored (yes against poor opposition) freely without him
he spoilt the score.
I predicted a draw, but I assumed there would be a goal or two from both sides.
A real lack of dangerous threat upfront from United. Rashford seems easy to defend against these days. Garnacho is the only threat. It all has a very mid-table look about it.
Rashford is finally firing, so why does ETH put him on ice. ETH seems to not like peaceful times, he makes decisions that invite criticism. And I understand that Eriksen played well against Barnsley and today, but that decision will bite him in ass more times than not, I rather see Eriksen coming on for Bruno in the 10 and/or starting against much lesser opposition. Ugarte is certainly fit, he played 90 for Uruguay over the break, why not get him asap. This United team reminds me of the young Arsenal team with Theo Walcott that Wegner struggled with. Up and down, up and down.
Everyone is to blame..the players infront of goal were rubbish…the subs were poor as well…
I’m at a point where I just don’t think Ten Hag will work.. Any time there is some hope or optimism, he does something to challenge himself,yesterday was a self-sabotage and we’ve seen it multiple times
Team selections, game management, player relations… there’s always a variation of some problem
Would be interesting to see Bruno's heat map vs other top six 10s such as Odegaard and Maddison and kdb , he's too erratic positionally and playstyle to sustain a title charging team
No meritocracy from Ten Hag again.
Can someone name me 1 player that ETH has signed that has improved at Man Utd?
What’s pathetic and shows how far the club is going backwards is we are now praising ETH for performances and results that we criticised Ole for and said weren’t good enough!
We saw that exact match a few times under Ole! And people used it to criticise him as not good enough and NOW the ETH excuse makers are holding the exact same performances as SIGNS OF IMPROVEMENT?!! 🤦🏼♂️
Ugarte and that’s it. Things were humming until the changes. Onana was brilliant.
Do hear the excuses after excuses from United hahahaha
Bruno is erratic because he lacks the physicality, dribbling skills and pace to get away from a press so he gets rid of the ball at first chance. Casemiro + ugarte + mainoo is our best midfield by far. Bruno is a super sub, I've saying this for 2 seasons now. Mainoo in the 10 with zirkzee as a 9 allows us to have two playmakers who are press resistant in that area of the pitch. The two of them can attract 4 players towards them leaving space for wingers to attack
All the manager changes has been poor this season
You guys aren’t playing Championship teams anymore…
Mate you literally complained when he took him off vs Brighton, you said leave him on he could come up with something.. his our creator he took some chances and it didn’t come off.. we are competing for top four we are gonna have varying performances.. looking good at the moment.
I personally think if the manager was gonna play erikson he should have subed bruno for ugarte or casimero to play kobbie and erikson high up the pitch and the front three need to stay atleast untill we score if we were ever scoring
I love Bruno… and I don’t get the Bruno out bandwagon… but he’s been playing bad in these two past games, and the manager should have taken him off yesterday he wasn’t impacting the game, losing balls consecutively in one phase of play. But we know the manager to play players through bad patches, was it because he didn’t have a fit squad idk, but in my opinion that’s what he loves to do.
Poor take
We played well. We don’t have any players you’d bet you house on, in front of goal. Amad, Garnacho, Rashford, Rasmus, Zirkzee, Bruno. Good players but not one of those are clinical. Pointless banging on about subs. If we score no one talks about it.
Been saying it , will always say it. With Bruno , the team will never ever improve & progress. He’s just a stat padding player.
With Bruno , Rashford and Ten Hag United gonna continue in the regression.
The fence sitter.
Zirkzee as a 10 and Bruno as an 8 could work. Bruno has not been at his best since the new contract, not saying the two are related but just noticed.
Whoever told Ten Hag that Rashford has to play gave him.bad advice. Taking out Amad & Zirkzee + Eriksen is crazy business because those are literally our best ball players / playmakers. Then you expect Rashford , Bruno & Ugarte to feed Rasmus.....FFS😂
The manager tried to get a goal that's why he brought in Rashford and Hojland......Erickson was tired and had to come out
Pretty wild if you cant see the style of play
Bruno has stank the place out every game this season 😂 bin
Said it from last season , there’s not enough goals in this squad . Utd need at least one absolutely ruthless goal scorer who can get you 20 goals a season.
10 goals scored, 0 goals conceded in 3 games.
Hit the woodwork 3 times in the first half, could have very easily been leading the game at half time. Guess what, ETH can’t score goals. We can’t complain some weeks that we don’t create any chances and that’s the managers fault, then when we create chances and we don’t score, it’s still the managers fault?
Lot of positives in this performance in my opinion, not perfect clearly, but there are steps forward there.
Lol you let a win against bottom of the league and league 1 team gas you. 2 wins in 5 and you think ten haag is the man. Looking forward to the loss against Tottenham next week
Can somebody tell me what is good or positive about Martinez thinking he’s some god of football holding onto the ball for massive amounts of time and walking round pitch with the ball until he comes to a stand still it’s embarrassing we’re drawing 0-0 with palace and he’s playing like we’re 3-0 up he’s so over rated it’s scary.
Well why were the players being subbed if they were scoring? You leave the manager to makes subs, this fan base man, the manager had to sub players because they were not scoring with all the creativity he put on the pitch, man United fans blame the manager but will not blame the players for not scoring, Bruno was awful and was to be subbed that I can blame ten hag for the rest didn’t go because you as a manager can only put players on the field to play and win and if they don’t is both the players then the manager. Is not like we were playing bad, we dominated the first half and some parts in the second half to have won the game. The players are not clinical is time we call it out instead of pointing fingers at ten hag. @Flex I disagree with most parts of your takes
Who the hell kept Bruno on the pitch? The manager!!!
Who said the players aren't blamed? I think some fans in this toxic fambase will blame the wind direction and every blade of grass before Ten Hag.
There's always something he isn't doing right. The subs are wrong? It's easy to acknowledge that fact but somehow, it's difficult to acknowledge the fact that ETH isn't the right man for the job?
He has risen above the club because, somehow, he's now above reproach. He kept on awful players. Perhaps the players you think were awful are the ones he is most impressed by. He keeps them on after all🤡
Bruno Fernandez = Palace 12th man
Y is it so difficult to say Bruno was crap!!!
Will you be hiding again?
Karma for United, Henderson was United's best keeper and we let him go and no one thinks anything of it lol, Henderson saved palace today and that's what old players who leave do, they come back to haunt you.
I’d play Casemiro and Ugarte and Eriksen in place of Bruno. Bring Mainoo off the bench. Just mix it up.
Fan channels are a cancer that should have never happened
YOUR MANAGER
Ive said this before and I’ll say again. ZIRKZEE SHOULD BEE OUR NO.10
All this talk of our best half of football is hyperbole. We dominated possession yet the best chance of the half fell to EZE who received the ball from a cut back free in the box with no defenders around and fired at the keeper with the whole goal to aim at. This was also the case in the 2nd half with again the best chance falling for palace. The manger is at fault for the result; the starting line up and then debilitating subs. The facts are garnacho is simply not as effective starting games, the chances he missed are expected when you consider his average technique and poor composure. The subs killed us taking of our only real creative and technically secure players and replacing them with runners is ridiculous. Only one chance coming after removing our attacking glue zrkzee. Rashford (the original garnacho) No impact. Hojland( apparently a top young striker) Not a single shot. NO impact . Urgate ( Energy and running) with casemiro left on the bench.
Its also quite amusing so many people critizeing bruno performance as if this is a new trend this is bruno! if he doesn't or does get G/A this is a typical performance a hindrance to our overall play. HE IS A ENEMY OF FOOTBALL
It was just an unlucky day.....we couldn't get the ball in the back of the net