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IWI Masada Slim
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2023
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Masada slim is my favorite, better than the p365, plus IWI doesnt use customers as beta testers 😅
May I ask what makes you like it so much?
@@hrfunk quality, fit and finish is tight, recoil is good, trigger broke in very nicely, reliable, good ergos and can be had for around 400 or slightly less. I do wish they put a rail on the dust cover.
It would also be nice if there were other grip modules like the SIG pistols, maybe one day.
I handled with one at my FFL and now I have the bug for it.
In my opinion. This one of the best explanation and description on the Masada Slim on RUclips.
Thank you!
I can't wait to hear your take on the Slim. Mine is quickly becoming one of my favorites.
Mine too !
I was told by IWI customer service that the Slim take the Sig Saur #6 & #8 sights. I haven't received mine yet but as soon as it comes in I'll order a set of Night Fision yellow perfect dot sight.
I really like the Masada S's trigger pull. In a stressful situation (gunfight) the heavier trigger pull will help to aid one from unintentionally discharging the pistol. Yes, I know that a lot of training and trigger discipline will help mitigate such bad habits and a potential lawsuit or loss of life. However, stressed-out people, even those who regularly train with their firearms, are more apt to make a life changing mistake if the trigger is at a near-competition (light) level. Just my two cents though.
Interesting Pistol I could consider for a CCW. Looking forward to your Range Testing!
Hope it's a Tack Driver! 🙂
Yeah it also takes cz75b magazines. And IWI right now is working on a sleeve for the magazine.
That I knew. I posted a “short” earlier this week demonstrating the Masada Slim functioning with a P01 magazine.
Please forgive me if I begin with a brief personal story. Sixty-six years ago, when I was a college student, I worked diligently, saved thriftily, and eventually I was able to purchase a ‘new 67 VW Bug for cash. It was a very serviceable, NO FRILLS, reasonably reliable and economical automobile. It served me very well, if not with perfection or great comfort, for years.
What does this have to do with the Masada Slim? I suggest a LOT, specifically the design goals appear to be rather similar: good quality, reliability, utility, and functionality, at an attractive price, and with no non-essentials (my VW didn’t even have a blower for the heating/defrosting system - a noticeable Ohio, New York and New England deficiency . . . similarly, the Slim’s takedown design appears to be potentially problematic). But the Bug filled my BASIC requirements well, many for years. AndI suspect the Slim would do just that.
I wouldn’t purchase a Slim - there are so many other excellent options in that “class” of micro-compact 9mm’s, which appear to likely be preferable - nor I would buy a Bug in 2023. BUT - and it’s a darn important “but” - my needs and my wallet have changed significantly since 1967.
Were I to want a micro-9 that was entirely decent and very affordable, however, I’d wager that the Slim would be on my short-list.
That ''67 Bug was a good one.
I had a '71 Super Beetle with the auto and a sunroof and wish I still had it!!!!!
I agree with you wholeheartedly on the Slim.
Really didn't care for the way they did the rear sight? Either buy our nightlights or we will just leave two big holes to show you the error of your ways?
Where are you readily going to find parts to keep it running?
Where will you find mags or holsters? Bet the mags are expensive and the holsters will have to be custom or the ones Masada offers?
All the above when there are perfectly good Glocks and Shields and Sigs out there?
@@ElainesDomain
Yes, the first year with 1492cc displacement and with a 12 volt electrical system.
I agree Roy. If I were a young (and relatively poor) police officer again and I was looking for an affordable off-duty handgun, the Masada Slim would very likely be in the running.
@@hrfunk
Absolutely. Simplicity and quality are ageless advantages.
I really don't like that small take down pin, reminds me of some of Ruger's 380s and cheaper small 9mm. I guess they saved money on this design, or just could not incorporate a better take down system in the thin frame? But thanks for being honest in the review.
You’re welcome. I suppose it’s not tremendously dissimilar to the 1911, but it’s smaller and a little easier to lose.
Yep. That Ruger pin sux. I use a screwdriver.
@@hrfunk Well at least the 1911 take down lever is "L" shaped and will not roll away. I purchased my first 1911 in the late 60's and have never lost one yet. This design is will probably keep some from properly cleaning their pistol, or not shooting it as much. I remember when I got my first Ruger 22lr standard automatic and how at first is was so difficult for me to disassemble it for cleaning. I finally got the hang of it and in no time wore out and broke the trigger. But that was OK, by that time Ruger came out with the MK II with a newly design trigger.
It's really the worst thing about the gun. It's so similar to the takedown of CZ 75 variants, I wish they'd just gone that route.
I really like mine and it's a great little shooter....but that takedown pin design along with the faux accessory rail is a headscratcher.
Interesting looking new firearm (always a pleasure to see you review one) but the acid test is on the range so I'm looking forward to your thoughts and comments in part 2.
Stay tuned Alan.
Thanks HR. That stressed trigger take was interesting. The last cartoon session on Saturday went well but it's not the same without your presence. All the best!
Sorry KD. I was in a marathon meeting that day. It went from 0800 to about 1530.
Hey Howard, I believe it actually can take cz 75/P01 mags you should give that a try
I’m planning to test that when I get to the range.
It does take any CZ 75 magazine that will fit. I've run 15 rd compact magazines and 16 rd full-size magazines in mine flawlessly. The old 14 rd compact mags don't quite fit only because of the length of the Slim's backstrap.
Thorough, unboxing review. Can't wait for part 2.
Great honest review.. thanks for sharing, God bless 🙏
Best EDC I’ve ever owned.
Muddy River Tactical makes holsters for the Slim. Love this gun but hate the re-assembly. Need to ask: did you have a hard time getting the pin back in? Seemed that the video was edited. If you did, not surprising. Everytime I clean the gun, I plan on spending a couple of minutes trying to get it back in. :)
It was difficult to do while reaching around the camera. When I move the pistol back closer to my body, the pin literally fell in.
@@hrfunk have to try that. Thx!!!
Are those good holsters? I was about to order one. Thanks.
@@brendanhickey9771 absolutely!!!
Have you tried turning the gun upside down while reinserting the pin?
The original came out in 2018. Selling points were, its price, fully ambi, optics ready, and it's "modularity". 5 years later, IWI nor ANYONE else has made a SINGLE grip module for THAT pistol.
Ill pass on its little brother.
The original is a great pistol. It’s been one of my most carried handguns in recent years.
I saw you operate the sear disconnect switch on the side of the gun and wondered if it could accidentally be pushed back making the gun unusable. Looking forward to your range review!
I’ll have to double-check, but I THINK the sear disconnector will only move when the slide is locked to the rear.
Good morning HR. Nice review, looking forward to the range video. I agree that the trigger on the full size is much better. You know the rule that if you buy a spare part you will never lose the original? I talked to IWI and they said they will replace lost take down pins but aren't selling spares. Maybe they will have grip frames with an accessory rail for lights later. From a fellow old timer "Happy trails to you"😂
Thanks John!
Good morning HR. Glad to see that you got one to try. It will be interesting to see how our opinions compare.
You didn’t mention that you have to turn the pistol upside down to get that pin to seat. That is what the manual tells you to do to stop the barrel from binding, which I found to be a pain in the arse
I don’t think I did that.
Non nonsense review. Tip my cap to your sir. You have earned a subscriber
Thank you and welcome aboard!
While the slim is a good step forward I'd like to see a compact version or modular pack using the same trigger assembly and ergonomics.
At 6:40; or so, you point out the tiny sliver of red.
After a couple thousand rounds
I had no idea it was there. 🙂
I can understand why. It is very difficult to see. I really think they could dispense with it altogether. For all intents and purposes, I think it's useless.
Online you can get to the manual like you said, but also download it as a PDF. It's nice because (hopefully), the updates if they do it right, give you the latest version of the manual. I have a Jericho 941 and love it. A little heavy, but as you mentioned about IWI, it's great for it's intended use.
Thank you for the great review. Not sure I would buy this particular gun as there are quite a few critical aspects that are not fully compatible with the full size, like magazines, chassis, and existing optics. To me, it looks like it has been designed with one goal in mind, to be slim with IWI compromising on other important aspects. I would like to see a compact and small size frame shells, slides and barrels that will offer a large array of options to existing full size Masada owners.
So would I. Let’s hope we see them.
The 17+1 magazines for the Jericho 941 R9 (full size with steel frame) are compatible with the Masada slim. There is a bit of a gap between the bottom of the grip and the end of the magazine though. So a sleeve on the magazine would be nice, but not necessary.
Looking forward to your range review.
My more experienced friend and I could not, after 90 frustrating minutes with my fairly new Masada S, get the pin to fully slide back in after disassembly and cleaning. We tried holding the gun upside down, made sure the straight side of the half moon head was facing the slide, tried aligning the hole reoeatedly, etc. We gave up a short while ago. Absolutely maddening.
Any ideas?
Without being there to see what's happening, I can't really say. You might want to give IWI customer service a call. They are very accommodating.
@@hrfunk Thanks for the swift reply. Calling customer service is probably my only recourse right now.
I love mine! Got it when it first came out. I may just get the slim. Great video. Just sub’d d.
Thanks for the sub and welcome aboard!
Was really interested in this firearm but after this first part of review im thinking...maybe not
Would have liked to see better grip finish and this takedown is something from 20yrs ago. Could have been alot more design built into it. Maybe range day will make it shine a bit more
Let me know what you think after you see the range review.
@hrfunk good enough range time. Seemed like a competent enough firearm just nothing stood out for me and too many little things detracted from it being a hit...for me. Im sure it does fine for many others as per the other comments but for me, I'll keep looking
The last time I checked, the Israeli soldiers didn't even carry the Masada handguns. that has always given me pause.
All I can say is my Masada and my 9S have been great pistols.
I like the plain cardboard box.
If companies would chamber their small carry pistols in a decent caliber (357 Sig) I would carry one for EDC. I simply don't trust a 9mm to save my life with only a couple of rounds. The 357 Sig with quality ammo has ballistics very similar to the King of one shot stops, the 357 mag. I've watched untold videos of self defense shootings and it usually takes at least 3 rounds to make the bad guy stop and even then most of the time they walk or run, even if only a short distance. More rounds also leads to more legal problems even if it was a justified shooting. I'll just stick with my 4" 1911 45 for my EDC. I'm so used to her that everything I do is automatic. Drawing, press checks, flipping off the safety, it's all an unconscious act. Plus if by some great stroke of bad luck the bad guy manages to get her away from me, the majority of them will have no idea how to use it. They're all used to the standard no safety, point and pull Glock style pistols that all of the levers confuses them and gives me a chance to put a blade in their throat. Mr. Browning is considered a genius for a reason. I'm also getting old, so that plays a part too. We tend to go with what we were raised on.
Great Pistol. Give the Mossberg MC2c a try.
I will If I get the chance.
Thx for the info 👍 🎯 carry on 🔫🇺🇲
How new is this gun? I can't find it at Vance Outdoors (here in Columbus), RK Guns or Cabela's.
It’s been out for a couple of months.
👍👍good review, thanks
Masada ayoob
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I wonder why they left off an accessory rail.
For a handgun of this type (small, close-range, concealment piece), I don’t think it’s a necessity.
@@hrfunk I was thinking of people who might use it as a bedside pistol.
My personal preference for that role is a full-size (and full feature) handgun (to back up my bedside shotgun).
@@hrfunk Ditto. Among aficionados it is preferred to own different guns for different purposes. Others who are not gun savvy or working with a limited budget may settle for a single pistol to perform all tasks. I know, it's hard to believe, but I've heard rumors that such people actually exist. I pity them. 🙂
@@Paladin1873 Ha, ha! Me too Colonel.
IWI/Meprolight are the same company.
I didn’t know that. They must have both been part of IMI.
@@hrfunk I needed a set screw for a Mepro rear sight. When I called them they answered "IWI."
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
My masada was a piece of crap
Sent it back still not right 😕
Sold it
What was wrong with it?
@hrfunk mine was full size
Slide was locked
When returned failure to extract eject
I am a machinist I understand some get through QA
JUST didn't trust it then
Maybe I got the o e that slipped through
Too bad. Other than one ammunition related malfunction, mine has run at least 1000 rounds without an issue.