fun fact, you do not need to convince her to spare you know who if you become friendly with her. Usuualy it's a dc 30 persuation that still appears, but you can fail it and if you give shadowheart to chose, she will naturally chose to spare.
Gale disapproved of me reading the necromancy book. But then he got two inspirations from me reading the necromancy book. I was like dude l guess just want to read it yourself 😅
Yes I've played a Good decision Monk and Lae Zel is the only "exceptional" approval in my party. All you need to do for Lae-Zel is be fair, firm and let her take the lead in her Creche plotting. If you do that you will be her bruisemaster for life.
@@Galdring I’d argue Lawful Neutral. She’s a Darwinian survival of the fittest exemplar. Her actions can also be justified with utilitarian philosophy since her culture is working for the greater good by preventing the illithid empires grand design and preserves freedom in the planes of existence. So yeah… not evil.
Shadowhearth is more like neutral, she swings both ways. Asterion is mostly evil, but have one thing in common with Karlach, he hates slavery and forcing people into stuff.
Minor spoiler: when romancing Lae'zel, you have to roll an intimidation check, which is such a fantastic touch. I agree she's pragmatic, stoic, but not evil at all. She takes a 180 in her story arc because she recognizes BS while sticking to her principles. I think she's completely underrated.
i remember on my second playthrough, i accidentally romanced lae'zel with my fighter tiefling "natari". turns out though i love them together haha, i love her little "CHK"s. they're fighter girlfriends and they love each other very much
Your evil party composition is mine on my good playthrough. It has been so fun seeing those characters develop. Lae zel has turned into one of my favs!
same, Lae'zel was one of my least favorite, yellow as a toad, twice as ugly, and she's too edge but her character eventually grow on me and become one of my favorite
Lae Zel also made me love the fighter class and the gith race! Put athletic on her and watch as she jumps everywhere and knocks people to their feet. It’s hilarious! Also made Astarion a mage slayer assassin and omg he destroys any mage trying to cast a spell that he didn’t backstab out right. My main was a bard and she just supported them both 💚💜💕
One thing to note with Astarion if you want to play with him in your party (and rogues can do a huge amount of damage so he is definitely worth having around) or if you even want to romance him but you are like me and you are a goody goody that hates making evil choices it is still possible. The important thing with him is he is sort of self absorbed and power hungry so if you gift him the Illithid tadpole powers it works wonders to make his approval rating going up despite making every "good aligned" choice early game.
I always felt Astarion was supposed to be given the tadpoles the moment he showed interests in the powers. I further leaned into it when I realize, mans aint really got any skills lmao. Whay if I don't want him in close, what if I want him doing something he couldn't do. Tadpoles.
Astarion is interesting cause if you treat him super well, romance him, and don't let him do anything TOO crazy late game, he really turns around and starts looking more chaotic good or at least neutral
you still have to deal with 2 acts of him wanting to stab you or any soft target in the back. Bg 2 was the same with vicona, she was a drow cleric for lolth ( REALLY evil diety as thrown into the hell planes evil) that either walk back to lolth, shift to shar and still evil ( as in bg 3 ) another one evil alingned one and a 4th one when she gets romanced by male player char and turned neutral. Even gets a family .....however lolth don't like defectors to live and asassinates her. Astarion is the same really....he is evil in the true sence of the word but 2 acts of "I can fix him" and he is more chaotic neutral if you romanced him....and even the devs and the voice actor himself will look at you with odd eyes if you choose to as he is outright evil and a vampire.
@Solus749 I'm not sure. I mean, I understand everything you're saying, and I don't even necessarily think you're wrong. However, my playthrough was a different experience than "2 acts of him wanting to backstab." Maybe it was bugged or something (entirely possible), but he turned really sweet and started approving of "good" decisions very early, like beginning-of-act-2 early. I know the D&D pantheon, and yea Lolth is super evil. My first run in bg3 was with a Lolth-sworn actually because I wanted a richer rp than Seldarine. In 5e, yes, vamp spawns are, by default, aligned neutral evil, but the system allows for vampire player-characters and only specifies that the pc MUST be lawful evil if the player character goes forward with transformation from spawn to vampire. The game is ultimately dictated by the DM, and as a DM it's ezpz to allow a player character to stop at spawn and change alignment, whether over time or through codified means like wish or death/resurrection. Larian is our DM in this adventure and it seems apparent to me that they coded Astarion to be appreciably affected by the player. Left to his own devices, you're absolutely 100% correct in that: vamps are categorically evil.
@@sparkpoi Maybe thinking of it in terms of good and evil is the "bug". For me it seems that he mostly disapproved of outright heroic actions, such as sticking your neck out for strangers or helping the helpless. Strangely, some outright backstabby actions also gained his disapproval - and not only if they were directed against him. He did generally seem to approve of helping victims who tried to help themselves in my run, especially when they were after revenge. Apart from that he seemed to like kind or playful treatment of other monsters and moments of poetic justice. If anything, I'd say he has a bit of a righteous side to him that can get stronger and less sinister over time.
Lae'zel has some very good ones towards Act 3 that completely change her character depending on your decisions. I loved the change in character...Astarion is always fun...he's great for someone embracing the dark urge because often he seems to enjoy your decisions.
I always like to try to anticipate what companions would be best for any given point in the story and frequently swap them around. Makes for a very rewarding playthrough when you start learning everyone's personalities and they feel that you understand them. Also yes, Shadowheart has one of the best companion stories in a game, while Gale is deeper than he appears and truly best friend material. Every single companion is exceptional, but those two are the Morrigan and Alistair of this game.
I seriously haven't played a game with characters wish such indepth stories. Shadow heart literally hasa better and more in depth story than a lot of main characters in other games
Until Halsin entered the party, i basically kept 2 rotations. Wyll , Karlach, and Gale are the “Goodie Two-Shoes Brigade”. Lae zel, Shadowheart, and Astarion are the “Its Problamatic Collation”. And I guess I split it like that cause i got Lae zel, Shadowheart, and Astarion first so i got attached to them first. No room for Halsin :(
I also got attached to the Problematic Collation lol. Shadowheart and Astarion are the funniest companions imo so I had them in the party and added Laezel because Shadowheart and her got issues and I just wanted to see how they’d interact with each other. All 3 of them together are hilarious, and it’s sweet when Laezel and Shadowheart show some care for each other
Yeah this isn't the first time I've thought the same thing, but I think this video pushed me into a sub. I really enjoy the alignment breakdown stating out right that the classes don't necessarily matter. I had been wondering about their personality even going into act 2, but this analysis cements my understanding of the characters, even the ones I don't use as much.
I did an evil playthrough with The Dark Urge where my char was a drow paladin with Minthara which is also a drow paladin. I hired two hirelings to finish the party and it was a lot of fun! Exploring Minthara's personality and a "succumbing" Dark Urge was probably the most interesting and diferent playthrough I had especially because I basically aligned against everything that was good. It's quite literally a whole new game considering how much it affects all acts.
@@TrairFrair it's a lot of fun. Yesterday I started a new playthrough (my 6th!) again with The Dark Urge but this time not "succumbing" to the urge. There's also a devil theme going on, the party is me as a tiefling, Wyll and Karlach.
I appreciate the TL;DW up front on every video, but i always watch until the end anyway. These videos have all been very helpful. I had a 6 hour round trip work trip the other day and just put your BG3 playlist on and was there before I knew it.
Honestly I think Gale leans a lot more towards neutral as well. He's against violence but he is DEFINETLY power-hungry. And honestly I think being non-violent is a much more accurate description of his character. I'm playing Dark Urge and I've never really resisted it at all and he threatened to leave a single time(I think everyone knows when) and after then we never had any issues whatsoever
most of them are neutral, thinking of them in terms of good and evil is kind of pointless, since none of them are infanticide evil, nor couldn't hurt a fly good. they are complex characters.
Astarion may disapprove of "helping" people, but it's usually a plus or minus 1. The "big" ones for him are if you agree with the villain in his story or force him to do something he doesn't want to do after he has said he doesn't want to do it. Or if you try to kill him or diss him in certain conversations. He's more neutral than evil.
I set up my party based on combat variety. Based on what my class is, I keep a rogue, caster, and tank in my party at all times. Even playing a mostly moral character (albeit a bit mouthy) I have no trouble keeping approval pretty high on everyone. Astarion is *always* in my party, I always romance him, and despite the occasional disapproval, I still have him in good approval by the end of Act 1. I have noticed that my Warlock has some conversation options that net me extra Astarion approval, which I found interesting.
Gale can actually fit an evil run. He’s got a power-hungry undercurrent to him and is morally grey when it comes to means for achieving the party’s goal to defeat the absolute.
I am very impressed with all the comments explaining how the companions develop their character depending on their experiences in the player’s party. What a lot of coding that must take! I definitely want to see Shadowheart turn to the light so Im keeping her. Laezel has just propositioned me which was creepy and alarming so she is staying behind from now on! 🥺 A really well put together, informative and concise video. Your channel is going to be my compass for this first playthrough, heaven knows I need one! 😃
Honestly, despite the unfinished mess she is, Minthara is a surprisingly interesting character when it comes to both party composition and story. On the one hand, we have a supposedly evil companion you can gain by either ignoring the tieflings or sacrificing them and two of the good companions (potentially three if you fail to convince Gale) for a character with one of the best classes in the game as their main loadout. On the other, we have a character with a pretty cool redemption-esc arc that has cool and funny dialogue despite her attitude. She’s like a much calmer, more menacing Lae’zel. She can easily become a face character if you pump up the charisma and can serve as both damage dealer and tank in equal measure, taking up both Karlach and, to an extent, Wylls roles at the same time (at least in terms of stats and mechanics). If you ever run another play through, I recommend ignoring the Tiefling/Gobbo storyline in order to gain Minthara without losing Wyll and Karlach and have her run as your main tank. Very fun character to play as, hope someday they even have a unique origin character dlc they use with her.
For my playthrough, I played with almost all the main companions and finish their storylines. I generally like all of them, got to play and mess around with thousands of builds for each of these, got to try out literally all the best loot and their synergies. Basically, the most amount of content you can go through in one single playthrough is my moto. My constant has only been Shadowhart, apart from that I switched all of the companions at one point or another, simply to play out their story. But for most of the game, it has been Tav, ShadowH, Astarion and Karlach.
pointing out that you can respec companions/hirelings is a great idea. A few times i save scummed to load before an interaction that a companion should be in, like laezel going to the creche, gale with magic stuff or just to see other dialog/story outcomes
Something to remember is that the companion’s approval rating will matter whether they will leave you or not! If you have very good to exceptional they will usually stay even if they disapprove at a given situation. But once it is low gradually you are in that risk zone of losing their accompaniment.
for minthara, you dont have to choose. just leave her alive, and "abandon" the grove (aka dont kill ALL the leaders, aka minthara.) you lose halsin tho
ya but the tieflings still all die and you lose access to so many quests. I love Mint shes the best romance in the game but it hurts you have to sacrifice so much for her. You lose Mol, Dammon for Karlachs quest and his loot, and without Halsin lifting the Shadows isnt possible.
Now (post Patch 5,) you don't have to! Just make sure she's tagged "temporarily hostile" (don't aggro her in dialogue,) then knock her out with non-lethal, & she'll show up in Moonrise. Everything afterwards proceeds as though you'd left the Grove/Goblin issue unresolved.
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I'm sticking with Gale and Shadowheart throughout and then rotating all the others in with a lot of Karlach. Will definitely have to get Minsc and Jaheira in together at some point though in honor of BG1 & BG2.
Just to fact check you on one point, rest of the video was really good. Even Durge playthroughs where character death happens/you haven't met them yet, Withers will offer Hirelings once the PMC hits level 3. That's the only requirement.
@italianspartacus of course. The only reason I know this is I was having trouble balancing LZ and Astarion influence in a traditional good guy role, and did a run where I wanted to only appease them. So until I could get Minthara in A2, I used a custom scrub. From start, if you clear the Nautiloid and the Withers ruin, you'll wind up a couple hundred XP shy of 3. Clearing the Grove gate, doing the Komira sub plot, and killing the 3-4 goblins in the rune tunnel should get you to 3, and you can substitute your influence tampon for anyone who may object to your more...questionable decisions.
Your best party is the exact one I naturally gravitated too also. I did like Gale fine also, but got tired of him asking about magic items so I left him at camp 😅
NGL, when you said "master of the fences," I imagined Wyll walking on top of a really tall fence brandishing his blade, proudly looking off into the distance. So... Master of the Fences works just as well, haha!
Your favorite team comp is my favorite team comp. I like Laezel and Gale as well. But not as much as Karlach, Shadowheart, and Wyll. If I’m not doing an evil playthrough, Karlach NEVER leaves my team. She’s easily my favorite character in the game.
I, as a sorlock and Neutral Good, am using the good party combination, except I use Astarion instead of Wyll. I think Astarion is not as evil as he tries to make us see, except when he picks a lock or steals something interesting from us (always for a good cause xD)
I'm still on my first playthrough with my semi-good Wood Elf Ranger, but Karlach has been with me from the first I found her and is the one party member I never go anywhere without. For most of Act 1 and 2 I just used Karlach, Shadowheart, and Gale. Now in Act 3, I'm also really enjoying having Jaheira for her "I'm too old for this shit" outlook on life, and Shadowheart has been pretty much benched. I'm looking forward to my next playthrough to spend time with Astarion and Lae'zel.
I was not interested in this game initially. My daughter wanted for Christmas. She wanted me to try it because she has seen me play dragon age. Turns out I love it. I'm buying it as soon as I can. Kinda ran thru my Christmas fund buy my wife and daughter their PS5's and games and whatnot. I can't wait to play it
I see so many of these types of videos. Which companion line up is best, and like, I am so intrigued by the people that don't randomly choose your party every few hours. I get having favs, I do too. And yeah some characters are needed for so specific quests. But beyond that, if I am wandering around the world just exploring I go back to camp and switch the party members all the time. So interesting that people play so differently.
My first playthrough I am a druid and I run Karlach, shadowheart and Gale. My second playthrough I am a Paladin (will go into warlock later) and am running astarion, shadowheart and wyll (i'm still in act 1 so not sure how this group will hold in longrun). I bring the relevant characters on the quests that are part of their stories, because if you don't you really are missing out on a lot of exposition. Like its stupid not to bring Astarion on his quest (there is an exception tactically to this near the end of his quest where it can pay to have him hang back from the group) or Shadowheart on hers. They provide soo much more information about what is going on and it does indeed have very drastic impacts for some story choices as they relate to the characters.
@@sgtcockburn5824 I do bring characters for their specific quests but if its neutral or main quests i almost always run the same group its easier to funnel gear/parasites in the early game.
I was actively trying NOT to play Will so that in my second playthrough I would focus on his story. But during longrest the game forced me his story and I just felt robbed of the experience. I didn't know that could happen from the start, if I did I wouldn't even recruit him with that character.
@@italianspartacus I mean, I get that people want to see the origin characters story unfold even without using them in battle, but I avoided all conversations with Wyll to not get ""spoilers"", but I got shoved with Mizora's pact and Wyll's horns out of nowhere. I think that it should have a story progression based on the conversations you have with the characters, and not just automatic after a set number of longrests.
I wish I saw you video before I stated my playthrough. I kept my first 3 members in the party (shadowheart, astarion, gale) and got progessively irritated with Astarion (and he with me) to a point where I honestly got scared he got annoyed enough with me wanting to help everybody that he'd just go on a killing spree... I just kept him because I was afraid I'd not see more of his story if he was not in my active party. I now have my girl karlach instead of him and the only thing that annoys me about her is that I can't hug her NEARLY enough times
Liking commenting and subscribing solely for the approach of information up front. Fantastic approach! I wish more people did this instead of burying the info at the end
I did a play through up to act 3 where she was with me and we chose the good path. Was definitely a pretty interesting storyline. But a lot went wrong for that character in act 2 so I decided to reroll and start over. This time my character was a cleric/paladin so I didn't really need her anymore so when I didn't take her and she bailed on me I was like "OK bye." didn't even try to see if it was an option to get her to stay. lol
It's been updated to where you can recruit minthara so long as you did not kill her when defeating the goblin camp. You have to knock her out once you do kill the rest of the goblin leaders and then your next long rest her body will be gone, then in act 2 she will be standing trial for her failure and you can step in to save her by freeing her from the dungeons. You're gonna have to pretend to be an absolute in order to get to that part though😊
Lae zel has been a staple heavy hitter in my Gale play through. Shadowheart is my best Gal and main healer. Karlach is another heavy hitter as a Tempest Paladin. I bring Astarion in only to Ninja loot. Minsc is easily my Solo nuker as a Ranger Assassin in Act 3. The man soloed the Gortash fight with ease.
I personally like turning on multiplayer, starting four instances, and brining in four custom characters. I've also done a solo run through -- only swapping in characters when the story really wants them.
What a great overview, glad I stumbled upon this video. I really like Astarion but I'm maining a benevolent monk as my first play-through and noticed him disagreeing with most of my decisions. I want a Ranger character, so I guess I'll just respec Will- a character I like but never enjoyed his base class so he always sat in camp during EA.
I am eagerly awaiting the Xbox release so this video may help me upon release! Just at the intro section but I’ll keep watching. Thanks for the info and taking the time to put this together, looking forward to watching the rest!
I had Shadowheart, Astarion, and Wyll in my first playthrough, running with Gale, Karlach, and Lae'zel in my second one (both normal/good playthroughs). I'm planning an evil run next with Shadowheart, Astarion, and Minthara (Lae'zel until I can recruit Minthara).
Yeah, actually Shadowheart was moving too slow for me, so I went for Lae'zel. LOL! It's funny because my character is a Wizard. And yes, even my wife commented how pretty the actress is!@@italianspartacus
I like to play with the origins, so Gale, Shadowheart, Astarion and Lae'zel have turned out to be my preferred main group, with Karlach coming along now and then and Wyll being on eternal camp duty. Gale's origin is extremely well done in my opinion (which softens the blow of having to miss out on a lot of his voice acting) and having Astarion by your side to tempt you towards power while coming to terms with Gale's personal situation and keeping his general disposition in mind works amazingly well.
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Tav as a Swords Bard/Warlock for passing every charisma and dex ability with ease, solid mele capability + Eldrich blast goes brrrrr, Shadowheart respeced into Life for support, Gale for crowd control and the big red golden retriever that jumps into the fray, throws one enemy onto another enemy and then rain down one of the boomerang weapons. Seriously Tavern brawler Karlach with the throw boosting items is so much fun. Wyll are on permanent making sure Owlbear and puppy are fed in camp duty (don't really need another warlock), the rest of the party get some sporadic time in the party whenever I want to switch things up.
For my first playthrough I decided to stick with my main custom character as a Rogue with some magic spells and strong range attacks (dual wielding both blades and hand crossbows), Karlach as Barbarian with Frenzy, Wyll as a Warlock with strong Eldritch Blast, and Shadowheart with the Knowledge specialty. So far it’s worked out pretty great
I think it’s nice that Shadowheart can go with everyone, bc cleric/healer is a very important role and I guess the devs predicted that cleric wouldn’t be a popular player choice lol (as usual, no one wants to be a healer)
You called their alignments exactly like I did when I started playing the game. Started with Lae'zel,Shadowheart, and Wyll and swaped out Karlach for Lae'zel. I'll replace Karlach for Lae'zel when I do the Creche and then will replace her again with Karlach.
I played the whole game with the same companions cause I like their personalities which are Shadowheart, Astarion and Laezel, the other ones I literally despise
coincidently, your favorite party comp are the same with my current party, kinda my favorite too. and it's true, that the personality is the most important aspect to choose. karlach is the most favorite for me tough. I think she is the most kindhearted. Currently, nearing the end of act II. i wish I do not need working so can play BG3 all day.
Your videos are ALWAYS so good!! This was really helpful for me as my style is traditionally quite good. It was super interesting to hear how Laezel and Shadowheart both have a lot of development. I’ve been respecting Shadowheart into a Light cleric just because I like their spells better. Starting to think it’s perhaps really against her initial character and perhaps her later development.
I gave all my characters 3 points in rouge (thief), to get the additional bonus action... sprint and disengage are bonusactions now, which is useful too
Given that Withers exists, I think that the character arc and development through the game becomes front and center in playthoughs. To that end Shadowheart is my favorite companion as she has so much interaction with the story. Beyond her Wyll, Karlach and Lae'zel feel like they are part of the story the most to me so their interactions and story beats are the most interesting. Asterion and Gale have their moments, but their actions seem mostly tied to their background so, other than being the most functionally useful as-is, don't seem to develop as much as characters.
I did a good dark urge run as a vegeance paladin. I never once broke my oath. My companions were Karlach, Gale and Astarion. I romanced Astarion with a very high approval rather early in the game. I didn't make actual evil descision. Just being a little bit snarky to people here and there, not outright offering help and often asking for rewards after completing a quest. For example I refused to help the Tieflings at first but ended up helping them nonetheless. In the end, I rejected the dark urge and didn't let Astarion ascend. Eventually it was a really sweet story ❤ So yeah, it's totally possible to have a completely good run while having very high approval from Astarion. I think what's most important is that you don't judge him for being what he is and trying to help him on his personal quest. His questline is so emotional. This alone makes it worth putting up with his snarky personality early in the game. Also the whole party setup was completely OP imo. Me as a paladin being good at charisma checks and dishing out great single target damage. As did Karlach and Astarion. While Gale got rid of the fodder with massive AoEs 😅 Plus having a rogue who can steal from people and pick every lock comes in really handy.
So I'm still on my first playthrough nearing the end of Act 1. This video makes me think that I may have encountered a rare plot pathway. The Githyanki creche is no more and I had Lae'zel enter the contraption, then afterwards I allied with an old crackhead stranger who entered my camp, and Lae'zel is alive with nearly maxed approval of my character.
20:39 My plan for the evil playthrough is to actually play as Shadowheart, so I can have all those three AND Minthara. I would also be interesting to see Shadowheart's 'choice' through first person perspective.
Also for Astarion he often approves of deception, rewards and (without spoiling who) making the enemy kill/hurt themselves or others. So in my playthrough as a goodygood ranger, Astarion's approval was at like 80-90% just cause i was lying and deceiving my way out of everything xD
“Shadowheart can fit into a good aligned playthrough.”
*I CAN FIX HER.*
fun fact, you do not need to convince her to spare you know who if you become friendly with her. Usuualy it's a dc 30 persuation that still appears, but you can fail it and if you give shadowheart to chose, she will naturally chose to spare.
Gale disapproved of me reading the necromancy book. But then he got two inspirations from me reading the necromancy book. I was like dude l guess just want to read it yourself 😅
I’m glad you can convince her to not kill Voldemort
Oh he reads it? I though he was going to eat it. I never gave it to Gale, I either gave it to Astarion or read it myself.
Lae’zel isn’t evil at all. She’s a pragmatist. She doesn’t like weakness. You can have a totally good playthrough with max approvals with her.
Except when she disapproves every time you try to help someone instead of trying to get rid of your worm
@@Athen-cz1zsI done a good playthrough and so far lae zel likes me the most out of all my companions lol
Yes I've played a Good decision Monk and Lae Zel is the only "exceptional" approval in my party. All you need to do for Lae-Zel is be fair, firm and let her take the lead in her Creche plotting. If you do that you will be her bruisemaster for life.
She approves of many sadistic actions, and engages in some herself. In D&D terms, she's classically "Lawful Evil".
@@Galdring I’d argue Lawful Neutral. She’s a Darwinian survival of the fittest exemplar. Her actions can also be justified with utilitarian philosophy since her culture is working for the greater good by preventing the illithid empires grand design and preserves freedom in the planes of existence.
So yeah… not evil.
Shadowhearth is more like neutral, she swings both ways. Asterion is mostly evil, but have one thing in common with Karlach, he hates slavery and forcing people into stuff.
@@diomedes7971 Minthara can be sympathetic but she only cares about power, both good and bad
Not completely true, he does not care for the Deep Gnome slaves
He is actually disturbed and twisted from his past experiences with Cazador.
Astarion doesn't hate slavery; he even react positively at some point if you try to buy a slave.
I had no problem with Astorion.
Just be arrogant and disrespectful from time to time and be is happy.
Minor spoiler: when romancing Lae'zel, you have to roll an intimidation check, which is such a fantastic touch. I agree she's pragmatic, stoic, but not evil at all. She takes a 180 in her story arc because she recognizes BS while sticking to her principles. I think she's completely underrated.
i remember on my second playthrough, i accidentally romanced lae'zel with my fighter tiefling "natari". turns out though i love them together haha, i love her little "CHK"s. they're fighter girlfriends and they love each other very much
Your evil party composition is mine on my good playthrough. It has been so fun seeing those characters develop. Lae zel has turned into one of my favs!
Same, I love getting good outcomes but being a prick along the way lmao
same, Lae'zel was one of my least favorite, yellow as a toad, twice as ugly, and she's too edge but her character eventually grow on me and become one of my favorite
Same here I converted Laezel and Astarion during my playthrough and it was awesome.
Lae Zel also made me love the fighter class and the gith race! Put athletic on her and watch as she jumps everywhere and knocks people to their feet. It’s hilarious!
Also made Astarion a mage slayer assassin and omg he destroys any mage trying to cast a spell that he didn’t backstab out right. My main was a bard and she just supported them both 💚💜💕
Cheers friend!
One thing to note with Astarion if you want to play with him in your party (and rogues can do a huge amount of damage so he is definitely worth having around) or if you even want to romance him but you are like me and you are a goody goody that hates making evil choices it is still possible. The important thing with him is he is sort of self absorbed and power hungry so if you gift him the Illithid tadpole powers it works wonders to make his approval rating going up despite making every "good aligned" choice early game.
I always felt Astarion was supposed to be given the tadpoles the moment he showed interests in the powers. I further leaned into it when I realize, mans aint really got any skills lmao. Whay if I don't want him in close, what if I want him doing something he couldn't do. Tadpoles.
Astarion is interesting cause if you treat him super well, romance him, and don't let him do anything TOO crazy late game, he really turns around and starts looking more chaotic good or at least neutral
you still have to deal with 2 acts of him wanting to stab you or any soft target in the back. Bg 2 was the same with vicona, she was a drow cleric for lolth ( REALLY evil diety as thrown into the hell planes evil) that either walk back to lolth, shift to shar and still evil ( as in bg 3 ) another one evil alingned one and a 4th one when she gets romanced by male player char and turned neutral. Even gets a family .....however lolth don't like defectors to live and asassinates her.
Astarion is the same really....he is evil in the true sence of the word but 2 acts of "I can fix him" and he is more chaotic neutral if you romanced him....and even the devs and the voice actor himself will look at you with odd eyes if you choose to as he is outright evil and a vampire.
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I'm not sure. I mean, I understand everything you're saying, and I don't even necessarily think you're wrong. However, my playthrough was a different experience than "2 acts of him wanting to backstab." Maybe it was bugged or something (entirely possible), but he turned really sweet and started approving of "good" decisions very early, like beginning-of-act-2 early. I know the D&D pantheon, and yea Lolth is super evil. My first run in bg3 was with a Lolth-sworn actually because I wanted a richer rp than Seldarine.
In 5e, yes, vamp spawns are, by default, aligned neutral evil, but the system allows for vampire player-characters and only specifies that the pc MUST be lawful evil if the player character goes forward with transformation from spawn to vampire. The game is ultimately dictated by the DM, and as a DM it's ezpz to allow a player character to stop at spawn and change alignment, whether over time or through codified means like wish or death/resurrection. Larian is our DM in this adventure and it seems apparent to me that they coded Astarion to be appreciably affected by the player. Left to his own devices, you're absolutely 100% correct in that: vamps are categorically evil.
Most importantly, astarion can turn tav into a vampire too.
100% same with Laezel!
@@sparkpoi Maybe thinking of it in terms of good and evil is the "bug". For me it seems that he mostly disapproved of outright heroic actions, such as sticking your neck out for strangers or helping the helpless. Strangely, some outright backstabby actions also gained his disapproval - and not only if they were directed against him. He did generally seem to approve of helping victims who tried to help themselves in my run, especially when they were after revenge. Apart from that he seemed to like kind or playful treatment of other monsters and moments of poetic justice. If anything, I'd say he has a bit of a righteous side to him that can get stronger and less sinister over time.
Astarion has some of the most well written and well delivered lines in the game.
Lae'zel has some very good ones towards Act 3 that completely change her character depending on your decisions. I loved the change in character...Astarion is always fun...he's great for someone embracing the dark urge because often he seems to enjoy your decisions.
I always like to try to anticipate what companions would be best for any given point in the story and frequently swap them around. Makes for a very rewarding playthrough when you start learning everyone's personalities and they feel that you understand them.
Also yes, Shadowheart has one of the best companion stories in a game, while Gale is deeper than he appears and truly best friend material. Every single companion is exceptional, but those two are the Morrigan and Alistair of this game.
I seriously haven't played a game with characters wish such indepth stories. Shadow heart literally hasa better and more in depth story than a lot of main characters in other games
Ya I've been doing the same lol. Really aside from astarion because I killed the gur guy on accident
@@jekkin8972 give DA:O a try if you get a chance
Just dont let him show you his "special magic trick" ... 😂
@@mlmii1933WDYM? That's the best part. 😏
Until Halsin entered the party, i basically kept 2 rotations. Wyll , Karlach, and Gale are the “Goodie Two-Shoes Brigade”. Lae zel, Shadowheart, and Astarion are the “Its Problamatic Collation”. And I guess I split it like that cause i got Lae zel, Shadowheart, and Astarion first so i got attached to them first. No room for Halsin :(
I also got attached to the Problematic Collation lol. Shadowheart and Astarion are the funniest companions imo so I had them in the party and added Laezel because Shadowheart and her got issues and I just wanted to see how they’d interact with each other. All 3 of them together are hilarious, and it’s sweet when Laezel and Shadowheart show some care for each other
With Jaheira why have halsin? I would like Minthara and fix karloch anf to save the tieflings.
@coorocrow, I like your names for those two teams. Have a like from me :)
I had the same issue, eventually I just turned turned Halsin into my camp buff and heal bot which helps save some spell slots for the others
Man, I love your videos. You're well spoken, respectful of people's time and thorough. Couldn't ask for more. Thank you.
Yeah this isn't the first time I've thought the same thing, but I think this video pushed me into a sub. I really enjoy the alignment breakdown stating out right that the classes don't necessarily matter. I had been wondering about their personality even going into act 2, but this analysis cements my understanding of the characters, even the ones I don't use as much.
My pleasure brother! :)
Yeah, he's great.
I did an evil playthrough with The Dark Urge where my char was a drow paladin with Minthara which is also a drow paladin. I hired two hirelings to finish the party and it was a lot of fun! Exploring Minthara's personality and a "succumbing" Dark Urge was probably the most interesting and diferent playthrough I had especially because I basically aligned against everything that was good. It's quite literally a whole new game considering how much it affects all acts.
I'm really wrapped up in my first playthrough, but I'm looking forward to flipping the entire script doing this exact sort of thing!
@@TrairFrair it's a lot of fun. Yesterday I started a new playthrough (my 6th!) again with The Dark Urge but this time not "succumbing" to the urge. There's also a devil theme going on, the party is me as a tiefling, Wyll and Karlach.
I appreciate the TL;DW up front on every video, but i always watch until the end anyway. These videos have all been very helpful. I had a 6 hour round trip work trip the other day and just put your BG3 playlist on and was there before I knew it.
Hell yeha man!! That's so awesome. Thank you so much. I'm surprised you didn't fall asleep listening hahaha
All of the characters will change approaches and stances. Lae’zel and Astarion soften up if you support them.
Honestly I think Gale leans a lot more towards neutral as well. He's against violence but he is DEFINETLY power-hungry. And honestly I think being non-violent is a much more accurate description of his character. I'm playing Dark Urge and I've never really resisted it at all and he threatened to leave a single time(I think everyone knows when) and after then we never had any issues whatsoever
most of them are neutral, thinking of them in terms of good and evil is kind of pointless, since none of them are infanticide evil, nor couldn't hurt a fly good. they are complex characters.
Astarion may disapprove of "helping" people, but it's usually a plus or minus 1. The "big" ones for him are if you agree with the villain in his story or force him to do something he doesn't want to do after he has said he doesn't want to do it. Or if you try to kill him or diss him in certain conversations. He's more neutral than evil.
One of the best party comp and character explanation videos I've seen, nicely done. Thank you
My pleasure dude!! Happy it helped
I set up my party based on combat variety. Based on what my class is, I keep a rogue, caster, and tank in my party at all times. Even playing a mostly moral character (albeit a bit mouthy) I have no trouble keeping approval pretty high on everyone. Astarion is *always* in my party, I always romance him, and despite the occasional disapproval, I still have him in good approval by the end of Act 1. I have noticed that my Warlock has some conversation options that net me extra Astarion approval, which I found interesting.
I try to do that but I just always end up with shadowheart, Astarion, and either Karlach or Laezel
helpful vid with the the summary, content, and the avoidance of spoilers. thank you!
Gale can actually fit an evil run. He’s got a power-hungry undercurrent to him and is morally grey when it comes to means for achieving the party’s goal to defeat the absolute.
I am very impressed with all the comments explaining how the companions develop their character depending on their experiences in the player’s party. What a lot of coding that must take! I definitely want to see Shadowheart turn to the light so Im keeping her. Laezel has just propositioned me which was creepy and alarming so she is staying behind from now on! 🥺
A really well put together, informative and concise video. Your channel is going to be my compass for this first playthrough, heaven knows I need one! 😃
I just bring whatever characters have the most invested in my current quest. My party comp is always changing and I’m making it through the game fine
Honestly, despite the unfinished mess she is, Minthara is a surprisingly interesting character when it comes to both party composition and story.
On the one hand, we have a supposedly evil companion you can gain by either ignoring the tieflings or sacrificing them and two of the good companions (potentially three if you fail to convince Gale) for a character with one of the best classes in the game as their main loadout. On the other, we have a character with a pretty cool redemption-esc arc that has cool and funny dialogue despite her attitude. She’s like a much calmer, more menacing Lae’zel.
She can easily become a face character if you pump up the charisma and can serve as both damage dealer and tank in equal measure, taking up both Karlach and, to an extent, Wylls roles at the same time (at least in terms of stats and mechanics). If you ever run another play through, I recommend ignoring the Tiefling/Gobbo storyline in order to gain Minthara without losing Wyll and Karlach and have her run as your main tank. Very fun character to play as, hope someday they even have a unique origin character dlc they use with her.
Also as an addendum, you can now recruit her officially in a good playthrough by knocking her out.
I respect this video so much, intro was respectful and you tryed not to spoil things and stayed on topic 10/10
I enjoy the overall vibe of your videos are "DO WHAT YOU LIKE", with hints.
For my playthrough, I played with almost all the main companions and finish their storylines. I generally like all of them, got to play and mess around with thousands of builds for each of these, got to try out literally all the best loot and their synergies. Basically, the most amount of content you can go through in one single playthrough is my moto. My constant has only been Shadowhart, apart from that I switched all of the companions at one point or another, simply to play out their story. But for most of the game, it has been Tav, ShadowH, Astarion and Karlach.
Great stuff, and I appreciate your continued confirmation of "play what you think is fun". I get worn out with min/max videos and articles.
pointing out that you can respec companions/hirelings is a great idea.
A few times i save scummed to load before an interaction that a companion should be in, like laezel going to the creche, gale with magic stuff or just to see other dialog/story outcomes
Something to remember is that the companion’s approval rating will matter whether they will leave you or not! If you have very good to exceptional they will usually stay even if they disapprove at a given situation. But once it is low gradually you are in that risk zone of losing their accompaniment.
I'm running around with Shadowheart, Wyll, and Karlach, too!
Love that you said what I was looking for in the first 2 minutes. I've reimbursed you by liking the video and then shut it down. Much appreciated.
Just kidding. I watched the whole thing.
Hahahaha thanks brother!!
I roll with Shadowheart , Lae-zel and Karlach as I play a ranger. Fights aren't too tough , and I like the party banter.
I will say, what companions approve of as you go along will change, Astarion being a major one
My party always has 2 frontline fighters a healer and a lockpicker. I tend to stick with Karlach, Shadowheart and Astarion.
MY MAN /fistbump
@nobodynothing282 No, I'm not having ugly characters with no personality follow me around.
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@@walterkrueger5947 totaly agree. Nothing ugly and no personality in my group either
for minthara, you dont have to choose. just leave her alive, and "abandon" the grove (aka dont kill ALL the leaders, aka minthara.) you lose halsin tho
Good god man I've been needing to hear this for a while! I've always wanted to figure out how to have minthara in a good playthrough so thank you.
ya but the tieflings still all die and you lose access to so many quests. I love Mint shes the best romance in the game but it hurts you have to sacrifice so much for her. You lose Mol, Dammon for Karlachs quest and his loot, and without Halsin lifting the Shadows isnt possible.
Now (post Patch 5,) you don't have to! Just make sure she's tagged "temporarily hostile" (don't aggro her in dialogue,) then knock her out with non-lethal, & she'll show up in Moonrise. Everything afterwards proceeds as though you'd left the Grove/Goblin issue unresolved.
Love your videos. 🎉 I Have come to this channel for CK3 videos a few years ago and you were incredibly helpful 😊 and so your videos are for Baldurs gate 3 ☺️
Glad I could help! :)
Your favorite party composition is literally the one I’ve been running! I’ll have to try a different composition on my next play through
Title: “Best party composition”
first words: Wyll, Shadowheart, Karlach
Me: let this man cook
I'm sticking with Gale and Shadowheart throughout and then rotating all the others in with a lot of Karlach. Will definitely have to get Minsc and Jaheira in together at some point though in honor of BG1 & BG2.
Just to fact check you on one point, rest of the video was really good. Even Durge playthroughs where character death happens/you haven't met them yet, Withers will offer Hirelings once the PMC hits level 3. That's the only requirement.
Thanks so much for keeping me honest brother :)
@italianspartacus of course. The only reason I know this is I was having trouble balancing LZ and Astarion influence in a traditional good guy role, and did a run where I wanted to only appease them. So until I could get Minthara in A2, I used a custom scrub. From start, if you clear the Nautiloid and the Withers ruin, you'll wind up a couple hundred XP shy of 3. Clearing the Grove gate, doing the Komira sub plot, and killing the 3-4 goblins in the rune tunnel should get you to 3, and you can substitute your influence tampon for anyone who may object to your more...questionable decisions.
Your best party is the exact one I naturally gravitated too also. I did like Gale fine also, but got tired of him asking about magic items so I left him at camp 😅
Best contact, creator, organized, thoughtful the way you just like if that’s all you want to go ahead and leave😂 love your videos bro
Thanks dude, no one seemed to be focused on which companions go with which alignment/get along together etc. Appreciate it.
NGL, when you said "master of the fences," I imagined Wyll walking on top of a really tall fence brandishing his blade, proudly looking off into the distance. So... Master of the Fences works just as well, haha!
I was looking for a class party composition but this was so informative I stayed anyway!
I have the same "best" party as you do, with a Paladin MC. They just fit so well together. I can keep their original classes mostly similar too.
Went through all of the compositions to hear about your favorite & feel great about who I was rolling with.
Let me just have a fun run!
Your favorite team comp is my favorite team comp.
I like Laezel and Gale as well. But not as much as Karlach, Shadowheart, and Wyll.
If I’m not doing an evil playthrough, Karlach NEVER leaves my team. She’s easily my favorite character in the game.
I really like how you get to the point so early in the video. Having said that I watch your content in its entirety.
One of my favorite BG3 content creators. Thanks for another great video, sir!
you are one of the best channels, been following for a while you are so humble. good work my brother. Bell on.
Thank you so much dude that's such a great compliment
i really appreciate it, that you allways say this is not "the best" but under this circumstances can this be the best for you.
I, as a sorlock and Neutral Good, am using the good party combination, except I use Astarion instead of Wyll. I think Astarion is not as evil as he tries to make us see, except when he picks a lock or steals something interesting from us (always for a good cause xD)
I'm still on my first playthrough with my semi-good Wood Elf Ranger, but Karlach has been with me from the first I found her and is the one party member I never go anywhere without. For most of Act 1 and 2 I just used Karlach, Shadowheart, and Gale. Now in Act 3, I'm also really enjoying having Jaheira for her "I'm too old for this shit" outlook on life, and Shadowheart has been pretty much benched. I'm looking forward to my next playthrough to spend time with Astarion and Lae'zel.
why bench shadowheart? someone has to check for traps by triggering them or make the obviously wrong choice to see what happens :D
I've heard that if you knock out Minthara instead of kill her you can still recruit her later
Yup!! Just use non lethal attacks!
I was not interested in this game initially. My daughter wanted for Christmas. She wanted me to try it because she has seen me play dragon age. Turns out I love it. I'm buying it as soon as I can. Kinda ran thru my Christmas fund buy my wife and daughter their PS5's and games and whatnot. I can't wait to play it
Yessss been waiting for this thank you I tried this solo but act two shadowlands kicked my azz so I made a sorcerer team and don’t regret it
As someone who loves Minthara … you have to give up so much . But it’s so worth it for that evil dommy mommy
Hahahaha I love that
I see so many of these types of videos. Which companion line up is best, and like, I am so intrigued by the people that don't randomly choose your party every few hours.
I get having favs, I do too. And yeah some characters are needed for so specific quests. But beyond that, if I am wandering around the world just exploring I go back to camp and switch the party members all the time.
So interesting that people play so differently.
I plan every campaign and basically have a hard locked party for each one. I dont switch people out because there is never a need to.
@@moonmessiah9368 Their is, if you want to experience their own questlines all the way.
My first playthrough I am a druid and I run Karlach, shadowheart and Gale. My second playthrough I am a Paladin (will go into warlock later) and am running astarion, shadowheart and wyll (i'm still in act 1 so not sure how this group will hold in longrun). I bring the relevant characters on the quests that are part of their stories, because if you don't you really are missing out on a lot of exposition. Like its stupid not to bring Astarion on his quest (there is an exception tactically to this near the end of his quest where it can pay to have him hang back from the group) or Shadowheart on hers. They provide soo much more information about what is going on and it does indeed have very drastic impacts for some story choices as they relate to the characters.
@@sgtcockburn5824 I do bring characters for their specific quests but if its neutral or main quests i almost always run the same group its easier to funnel gear/parasites in the early game.
I was actively trying NOT to play Will so that in my second playthrough I would focus on his story. But during longrest the game forced me his story and I just felt robbed of the experience. I didn't know that could happen from the start, if I did I wouldn't even recruit him with that character.
Whatcha mean!?
@@italianspartacus I mean, I get that people want to see the origin characters story unfold even without using them in battle, but I avoided all conversations with Wyll to not get ""spoilers"", but I got shoved with Mizora's pact and Wyll's horns out of nowhere. I think that it should have a story progression based on the conversations you have with the characters, and not just automatic after a set number of longrests.
I wish I saw you video before I stated my playthrough. I kept my first 3 members in the party (shadowheart, astarion, gale) and got progessively irritated with Astarion (and he with me) to a point where I honestly got scared he got annoyed enough with me wanting to help everybody that he'd just go on a killing spree... I just kept him because I was afraid I'd not see more of his story if he was not in my active party. I now have my girl karlach instead of him and the only thing that annoys me about her is that I can't hug her NEARLY enough times
I like bringing Lae’zel, Gale, and Shadowheart along
Liking commenting and subscribing solely for the approach of information up front. Fantastic approach! I wish more people did this instead of burying the info at the end
Actually not taking shadowheart to temple of shar does change things. She will leave your party if you finish it without her.
I did a play through up to act 3 where she was with me and we chose the good path. Was definitely a pretty interesting storyline. But a lot went wrong for that character in act 2 so I decided to reroll and start over. This time my character was a cleric/paladin so I didn't really need her anymore so when I didn't take her and she bailed on me I was like "OK bye." didn't even try to see if it was an option to get her to stay. lol
It's been updated to where you can recruit minthara so long as you did not kill her when defeating the goblin camp. You have to knock her out once you do kill the rest of the goblin leaders and then your next long rest her body will be gone, then in act 2 she will be standing trial for her failure and you can step in to save her by freeing her from the dungeons. You're gonna have to pretend to be an absolute in order to get to that part though😊
Lae zel has been a staple heavy hitter in my Gale play through. Shadowheart is my best Gal and main healer. Karlach is another heavy hitter as a Tempest Paladin. I bring Astarion in only to Ninja loot. Minsc is easily my Solo nuker as a Ranger Assassin in Act 3. The man soloed the Gortash fight with ease.
I love the fact that you give First and last names to your character.
Hell yeah this is what I asked for! Thanks brother!
i gothcu dude :)
I personally like turning on multiplayer, starting four instances, and brining in four custom characters. I've also done a solo run through -- only swapping in characters when the story really wants them.
What a great overview, glad I stumbled upon this video. I really like Astarion but I'm maining a benevolent monk as my first play-through and noticed him disagreeing with most of my decisions. I want a Ranger character, so I guess I'll just respec Will- a character I like but never enjoyed his base class so he always sat in camp during EA.
After you got me re hyped to play, just stuck watching video after video here lol
I am eagerly awaiting the Xbox release so this video may help me upon release! Just at the intro section but I’ll keep watching. Thanks for the info and taking the time to put this together, looking forward to watching the rest!
I had Shadowheart, Astarion, and Wyll in my first playthrough, running with Gale, Karlach, and Lae'zel in my second one (both normal/good playthroughs).
I'm planning an evil run next with Shadowheart, Astarion, and Minthara (Lae'zel until I can recruit Minthara).
When you were talking about Shadowheart I noticed the softness and passion in your voice 😅
I LOVE HER!! But Lae'zel?? Oh man.. That voice actress is gorgeous. She's also the voice of Lady Katarina in Warhammer 3!
Yeah, actually Shadowheart was moving too slow for me, so I went for Lae'zel. LOL! It's funny because my character is a Wizard. And yes, even my wife commented how pretty the actress is!@@italianspartacus
For the last time, gale. I will not let you eat my everburn blade
I like to play with the origins, so Gale, Shadowheart, Astarion and Lae'zel have turned out to be my preferred main group, with Karlach coming along now and then and Wyll being on eternal camp duty. Gale's origin is extremely well done in my opinion (which softens the blow of having to miss out on a lot of his voice acting) and having Astarion by your side to tempt you towards power while coming to terms with Gale's personal situation and keeping his general disposition in mind works amazingly well.
Wyll is just fine sipping his wine all the time xD I also keep him in camp mostly, unless I know his story will be triggered in a certain quest.
I just wanted to let you know I've become a decent supporter of your channel. Your bg3 depth is great. If your willing to read this I have an early game multiclass:
Start tempest cleric take to level 2, sorc 1...to 11 later.
Gear: a certain set of boots near a windmill adding 3 charges
A staff from am area adding more charges.
With all the lifting bonus you become God of the zappy zap
With
Tav as a Swords Bard/Warlock for passing every charisma and dex ability with ease, solid mele capability + Eldrich blast goes brrrrr, Shadowheart respeced into Life for support, Gale for crowd control and the big red golden retriever that jumps into the fray, throws one enemy onto another enemy and then rain down one of the boomerang weapons. Seriously Tavern brawler Karlach with the throw boosting items is so much fun. Wyll are on permanent making sure Owlbear and puppy are fed in camp duty (don't really need another warlock), the rest of the party get some sporadic time in the party whenever I want to switch things up.
For my first playthrough I decided to stick with my main custom character as a Rogue with some magic spells and strong range attacks (dual wielding both blades and hand crossbows), Karlach as Barbarian with Frenzy, Wyll as a Warlock with strong Eldritch Blast, and Shadowheart with the Knowledge specialty. So far it’s worked out pretty great
One of the best intros I've heared in a while.
I think it’s nice that Shadowheart can go with everyone, bc cleric/healer is a very important role and I guess the devs predicted that cleric wouldn’t be a popular player choice lol (as usual, no one wants to be a healer)
Cleric was my very first character, I didn't know anything going in. And it was awesome! Clerics can be so beastly
Wyll, Gale and Shadowheart lose out on story beats if you change their base class, so be mindful of that.
Wyll got a little rogue and Shadowheart a bit of Paladin...wouldn´t touch their base classes though :)
Legendary content, mate! You’re killing it.
You called their alignments exactly like I did when I started playing the game. Started with Lae'zel,Shadowheart, and Wyll and swaped out Karlach for Lae'zel. I'll replace Karlach for Lae'zel when I do the Creche and then will replace her again with Karlach.
I played the whole game with the same companions cause I like their personalities which are Shadowheart, Astarion and Laezel, the other ones I literally despise
Went with karlach, shadow and wyll too first time too. Now I switched wyll for gale and I'll start durge now with laezel astar ion and mynthara
coincidently, your favorite party comp are the same with my current party, kinda my favorite too. and it's true, that the personality is the most important aspect to choose. karlach is the most favorite for me tough. I think she is the most kindhearted. Currently, nearing the end of act II. i wish I do not need working so can play BG3 all day.
Your videos are ALWAYS so good!! This was really helpful for me as my style is traditionally quite good. It was super interesting to hear how Laezel and Shadowheart both have a lot of development. I’ve been respecting Shadowheart into a Light cleric just because I like their spells better. Starting to think it’s perhaps really against her initial character and perhaps her later development.
Idk shadowheart really seemed to enjoy watching me get flogged for Loviatars Love.
Just Don't dream of tying her up 😊
Asterion is the man at picking locks and disarming traps, though I don't like him a ton in battle
Thank you very much.
Very well explained & you have cool radio-voice !
I gave all my characters 3 points in rouge (thief), to get the additional bonus action... sprint and disengage are bonusactions now, which is useful too
I love how as evil protagonist we can persuade Gale to stay and use him as a doomsday nuclear bomb
Given that Withers exists, I think that the character arc and development through the game becomes front and center in playthoughs. To that end Shadowheart is my favorite companion as she has so much interaction with the story. Beyond her Wyll, Karlach and Lae'zel feel like they are part of the story the most to me so their interactions and story beats are the most interesting. Asterion and Gale have their moments, but their actions seem mostly tied to their background so, other than being the most functionally useful as-is, don't seem to develop as much as characters.
Great vidéo, lots of information👍
I did a good dark urge run as a vegeance paladin. I never once broke my oath. My companions were Karlach, Gale and Astarion. I romanced Astarion with a very high approval rather early in the game. I didn't make actual evil descision. Just being a little bit snarky to people here and there, not outright offering help and often asking for rewards after completing a quest. For example I refused to help the Tieflings at first but ended up helping them nonetheless.
In the end, I rejected the dark urge and didn't let Astarion ascend. Eventually it was a really sweet story ❤ So yeah, it's totally possible to have a completely good run while having very high approval from Astarion. I think what's most important is that you don't judge him for being what he is and trying to help him on his personal quest. His questline is so emotional. This alone makes it worth putting up with his snarky personality early in the game.
Also the whole party setup was completely OP imo. Me as a paladin being good at charisma checks and dishing out great single target damage. As did Karlach and Astarion. While Gale got rid of the fodder with massive AoEs 😅 Plus having a rogue who can steal from people and pick every lock comes in really handy.
So I'm still on my first playthrough nearing the end of Act 1. This video makes me think that I may have encountered a rare plot pathway. The Githyanki creche is no more and I had Lae'zel enter the contraption, then afterwards I allied with an old crackhead stranger who entered my camp, and Lae'zel is alive with nearly maxed approval of my character.
20:39 My plan for the evil playthrough is to actually play as Shadowheart, so I can have all those three AND Minthara. I would also be interesting to see Shadowheart's 'choice' through first person perspective.
Also, while playing Shadowheart I don't have to fear getting bad approval and have her leave, as I will be the one doing the bad choices.
Also for Astarion he often approves of deception, rewards and (without spoiling who) making the enemy kill/hurt themselves or others.
So in my playthrough as a goodygood ranger, Astarion's approval was at like 80-90% just cause i was lying and deceiving my way out of everything xD