TCL is honestly impressive to me, I feel like they kind of came out of nowhere in the past couple of years. Feel more comfortable recommending TCL at their prices than Samsung or LG to other people who aren't looking at the creme of the crop TVs
It would be a shame if they don't upgrade the processor, the C93 would be just about perfect if it had full uncompressed signal at 4K144hz. Weird, according to the HDMI Wiki you only need 39Gbps for 4K144hzHDR, so the full 48Gbps bandwidth of HDMI 2.1 should be doing 4K at 175hz. Display makers are leaving untapped potential.
I'll be honest. I like brighter. I'm not as much into reference accuracy. I definitely do appreciate the higher dimming zones though, hence I have a Samsung Neo G8 32" with its 1196 dimming zones. This is on a monitor size of 32" so its very concentrated. The question isn't if Samsung can do it, its just a question of when they do it and at what price point. I have high hopes for dimming zones, eventually it may match OLED while not having to worry about OLED burn ins and dimming procedures.
If you look at a TV-s set in a store with your eyes, you won't see a radical difference. The picture is depend on setting also and it is different in the shops. So these tests are good to help you decide. In many cases, even if the TV is better than other in terms of its parameters, there is a big price premium which is not worth the little extra.
Great review as always. Beware who are sensitive to PWM flicker. I suspect C93 has the same strange PWM modulation C83 does have. Eyes are really strained by flickering.
Can confirm this too. Have been trying to figure out why I’ve been getting a lot of eye strain and headaches since getting the C935 recently. I thought it was too bright maybe so turned down the brightness, still didn’t work. Must have been the PWM flickering all along. Never had this on my previous Sony XH90
I captured 960fps video from 65" C935 and there was not any low frequency PWM backlight flicker.. it is likely 960hz or greater. If you want an example of PWM, try Samsung Qleds in game mode -> 120hz modulation..
@@WhatTheHex Yes 960Hz. But it differs in modulation from other brands. That's why you can't see anything through the camera. And that's why the eyes are straining so much. Just look at the R655 RTings test. C835 has the same behavior. I got rid of it for exactly this reason
All of noticeable defects found on the 75" C935 version including local dimming algorithm causing brighter line of illumination located at edge letterbox bar in cinema scope content aren't an on the 65" version of TCL C935. As per owner of this TV on AVFORUMS
I bought the TCL c835 during the Black Friday sale because of your last video :). Do you think you can do a deep dive into the best settings for TCL tvs? You have already reviewed the TCL c835 and now the TCL c93. I have been watching all the TCL videos that you've made and other RUclipsrs have made to try to get the best settings. But I'm sure there is so much more that that I can get out of this TV . So far I love it . Thank you very much for the reviews!
I got a TCL 935 and I would love to figure out your recommended settings for it. I know every panel is slightly different, but having a professional with professional tools give you a good base config to follow helps so much!
TCL TVs do surprise you sometimes with what they give you for a so called budget TV. I guess if they went all out with features they'd have to charge more for their TVs.
Unfortunately room size limitations restricts me to a 50 inch TV and it seems Samsung is pretty much the only company making Mini LED televisions in that size. Not sure if I want to risk an OLED as even a ‘budget’ TV like the TCL would be a big investment for me and I’d want to get a lot of years’ use out of it.
Same size oled aren't so expensive if you wait price drop on late spring or during black friday. You can get 48 inch Oled for 899€ or less in Europe. I get a Panasonic jz1500 48 oled for 899€ in italy. The mini led Samsung 50 cost near the same cash
PLEASE do a comparison between the TCL C935 and Sony x95k....that would be the most relevant comparison! Also x95k 65" was going for just under $2000 on sale recently
There’s some issues with the audio that myself and many other customers are experiencing on our C935 TV’s right now that needs to be fixed in a firmware update and also in Europe none of our TV’s are receiving any over the air firmware updates to fix bugs. In other parts of the world customers are receiving firmware updates to their TV’s no problem via the software update option on their Android TV’s from TCL. But it seems in Europe, no one is getting any software updates. The audio problem is intermittent. Sometimes watching some content is fine and then out of the blue the audio will start crackling. The workaround is to go into the settings menu and turn off the Dolby Atmos setting. Then it removes the issue, but the TV looses its “oomph” in sound. Vincent, can you pass this info onto TCL?
@@E96 Yes I’m aware, I watched the video. Just because it didn’t happen when he tested his unit, doesn’t mean it’s not happening for the rest of us. It’s an intermittent issue as I said in my post above. Some people have reported the problem happening every few days, some have it all the time. I only get it occasionally, but it’s still there nonetheless. Vincent would be able to notify TCL about this to get their engineers to look into it.
FINALLY. We've been hearing about the next gen TCL TVs for almost a year now, and they've been available in Asia for four months. Great to see a copy finally make its way to the U.K.
@El Cactuar Except he doesn't full-on ignore the flaws of the TCL TVs and uses actual professional tools to truly represent what their performance means in real-life scenarios, like, you know, someone who actually uses facts over copium-induced opinions, like yours.
Mini Led > oled for price, longevity, and brightness as a few reasons…… I think micro led is the future because apparently they can turn off individual pixels for oled level contrast while being capable of insane brightness levels
C835 is on crazy discount here, only thing keeping me from getting one is this C935. So I was expecting a better performance in terms of the algorithums. Hope they can fix some of them via updates？
In this video and in your earlier video (X95K vs C83), the TCL models seem to have the green colour less pronounced (the tree's algae in The Revenant and the green hue in Blade Runner 2049) compared to the reference monitor. Can't this be adjusted in the colour settings?
Can someone explain to me why the manufacturers can’t allow us to choose which port we would like to use for EArc? I find it extremely annoying that if you don’t have all 2.1 ports that you have to sacrifice one for EArc.
The bright distorted line to the right and below anything black is absolutely horrible and unless fixed should be counted as a broken display. When it's worst it comes down 4-6 cm below the black bar completely distorting the top of the picture. Turning down contrast to around 55 in normal HD (no hdr) and for example turning up brightness instead, almost removes the worst distortion which is a better fix than turning local dimming to low or off, but still totally unacceptable to have to do any of that to try to fix the problem.
@@GabiFish that's strange because everyone in a group at avforums seem to have the problem but only with the 75 inch c935. And I've tried every firmware update out there, including now the newest testversion v999test5 which is pretty good but haven't fixed anything with that line or the crackling speaker problem when playing dolby audio content with the cinema sound mode which is also a problem it seems everyone have if they're using the built in speakers and playing dolby sound. How old is your TV, because maybe then they have fixed it on newer batches because it then probably would be hardware problems they maybe would have fixed.
@@kimwh7203 I do have problem with the sound on the built in speakers, fortunately I do not use them. I have just purchased the tv 2 days ago, but I do not know the manufacturing date. I was wrong, I do have that brighter line, but very faint. You really need to look for it and be very close to the TV to see it. From the couch it's not visible.
@@GabiFish yeah I didn't use the speakers much until recently when watching normal unimportant TV to save a little energy from my av system, but it's crazy that it has that fault and doesn't look like being fixed, especially when they boast of pretty good sound and atmos speakers etc and it can sound pretty impressive for a TV for example when the sound is aac where it doesn't seem to have the problem. About the bright line, it depends a lot on the colors and content. A very light colored sky seems to distort it most and sometimes orange and blue, and it's worst when the black bar is the normal movie aspect and not really in the thinner black bar mostly used it TV shows. If you happen to be able to watch the movie "The Menu" then the first 2 minutes in the movie where their are waiting at the harbour, some of the worst example of distortion I have seen, distorting sky and the top of face color. It's just such a shame cause for me it really ruins the overall picture quality when it catches my eyes in those scenes in a movie where it clearly shows. I had the TV for 6-7 months now and every time hoping the next firmware would solve it but doubt they can since it still hasn't happened.
@@kimwh7203 I have just watched the first 3 minutes, and the line it's really faint, barely noticeable, I am using Dolby Vision Bright. Maybe they have changed something with later models or maybe I'm just lucky.
I don't think I'll jump on a TCL until they give full uncompressed image quality at 4K144hz. Biggest problem is I'm so happy with the firmware on the C1 that the idea of switching away from LG is kind of scary now, and LG OLED in 2023 is supposed to have numerous upgrades to improve HDR. And of course if Samsung can just make stable firmware for QD-OLED they would have the best TV on the market.
@@budthecyborg4575 ok what? Is it 120hz or is it 144hz? Because when I look at the specs online, the only thing mentioned anywhere is 4K at 120hz, the same as the LG C2. Are you sure about it being 144hz
I'd like a 27" version to use as a desktop monitor. Having to wait so long for decent 4K + HDR + VRR + no burn-in in desktop sizes. (OLED is already great for the sofa.)
@@Zicrixdoesart I wrote that off due to not supporting VRR + HDR at once, but now I read they fixed it, which is good. But then I went looking for stores/prices and... it seems Cooler Master forgot Europe exists, lol. Oh well. Maybe one day.
when did yt fix the scrollbar? the only burn in i ever had is that red line and the blue ad button. at least they fixed the red line, that blue button is still here. thank god i mostly watch yt on my phone
Does anyone know if issues with light flood on top or other issues mentioned in video are fixed with FW update? Also what strikes me odd is that TCL claims on their site that all HDMI ports are 2.1, when in fact all evidence I can find points that only 2 ports are 2.1.
I sent u the question more than one time and you mentioned in tcl last video that 144 not working and need firmware update!! This time you didn’t say anything about it !! That mean they will not fix the issue kindly respond
Can you do a video on TCL's "micro dimming"? I figure it is largely software controlled but is it any good at all? Or is it simply marketing gimmicks? How does it compare to FALD?
I recently returned a QN900B due to excessive blooming and it seems to be that the QN95B suffers the same. I have a QN94A which exhibits nothing like as much. So is it an across the range thing that Samsung have got horribly wrong with the B vs last year's A models?
I’ve got the 75" version. I paid 1600 euros for it and can honestly say that it’s a beast of a TV which nothing close to it at this price point of ever 500 euros more expensive!
** Can you address why every OLED I have owned or even looked at has a distorted reflection effect when looking at it while off from the side. The screen almost looks wobbly and reflections are distorted like a fun house mirror. You cannot notice it from the front or while the screen is on, it doesn't affect picture quality at all. When I got my first OLED (C9) I thought it was damaged or detective so I went to look at the displays at Best Buy. Virtually all of them had this characteristic as have the two other OLEDs I have owned since. Is it the anti-glare filter underneath the screen? Whatever is causing it seems to be under the screen, not the screen itself. I really hope you will respond to this comment. Thanks
Is Local Dimming a faulty tech which only works in a certain scene and situation? Let says if there is 2 black bars at the top and bottom, the HBO wording is at the top right black area. I am seeing this HBO word getting dim from scene to scene for my TV, but the source suggest that this HBO word should be light up at a brightness level (if the local dimming is off) the whole movie. Is this normal? As this translate that the subtitle or some details will always be affected by the local dimming adjustment. Opposite of blooming, the local dimming will dim unnecessary areas, because dimming zones are at a much bigger size, which means its not working as intended.
Because of limited availability of the C935 and my old TV dying after a small bang, I choose to buy the 55C635 that was on sale for €400 with the idea to eventually move that to the bedroom and get a better one for the living room. But to be honest, I am quite impressed with the quality of the C635. Technology has improved drastically since I bought my 1600 euro LG TV in 2012. I don't want OLED as this technology will cause burn in, or suffer from ridiculous measures to prevent burn in so that you can never fully enjoy the technology without fearin the dreaded burn in effect. If you spend 2000 euros on a TV I don't want that to be an issue. I now am quite satisfied with the C635 and will wait for next years models or maybe even the year after that before I get my bigger TV for the living room as interesting improvements are most likely to happen with newer SOC's and maybe even finer miniled grids. Also Android TV 12 will bring an important feature that allows instant framerate switching (I hope that TCL will give an update to this version on the C635). Oh and TCL: the fact that the volume indicater will not disappear when you mute the speakers is simply stupid. I don't want to go through all menus to change the setting to ARC everytime I just want audio on my surround set. Luckily when you set the volume to 1, it is barely audible but I really hope this will be fixed with an update.
My A80K is here! I have a question regarding HDMI settings. I use an AV receiver (X2700H). My PS5 is plugged into the 8K/4K120 input on the receiver, and then Apple TV and Oppo 203 in the other inputs. Receiver out to HDMI 3 on the TV (8K, eARC, etc.). Should I set HDMI to enhanced or enhanced Dolby Vision?
I am totally lost now, especially because of this bright line on top of the screen. Which would you advise to go for size 65inch, C935 or Q80B? And is should i not consider QNED 86?
Salve vorrei acquistare un Sony xr a90j poi ho visto il top della Sony xr a95k, ma per quanto costano e non so se pentirmi mi sono orientato sul TCL c93 ma non ho modo di vederlo dal vivo! Che mi consiglia ne merita e ne vale la pena oppure mi dovrei orientare su marchi più conosciuti come sony, Samsung, LG ? Grazie per laiuto. 🙏
Hiya Vincent. Can you please do a video on game settings on this year's Samsungs and explain what the latest HDR settings in game mode are all about. X
hello I have a problem with the Samsung QLED 65" Q77T tv my son was playing in the service menu and now the picture is very dark and you can't enter the service menu anymore. Please help
Having a high respect for your insight, do you think Sony will produce a higher end 43" LED TV than the X85K in the near future, or is their focus in another direction? If not, I will purchase the current offering out of pressing need. Much thanks.
There's was nothing better available from Mediatek at the time the TV was produced. If you want a better Mediatek Chip all brands like TCL, Philips, Sony have to wait til next year.
@hdtvtest you had another video about this TV where you had an interview with the head of TCL Europe. Is it deleted? Now I cannot find it. After having watched that, this video of yours confused me. I was very eager to buy one, now I have second thoughts.. BTW why do you compare it to a previous generation TCL which is also a different size (65C83 vs 75C93)? Edit: found the previous video
Wasn't dynamic tonemapping supposed to carry over the creative intent? Why is Samsung applying some kind of overbrightning on top of the tonemapping metadata? Just to look extremely bright in the store?
Hi Vincent, I picked-up my LG Oled 55 C2 the other day, it's Quality in both watching and gaming on my Xbox Series X BUT I know it can / should look even better with a tweak to some settings via calibration !! I was wondering if you know of anywhere that shows the calibration settings that I could refer to / copy or would you be willing to calibrate my C2 for me.....Obviously, I'm willing to pay you, I would like to have my C2 showing the most accurate picture possible for both watching and gaming, so I thought I'd ask the best guy on RUclips !! Any Help / Info will be Very much Appreciated !!
Is a Sony oled the best tv to buy then? I’m mainly looking for a tv that will show me what the director wanted me to see if whatever I’m watching. And if so, which Sony oled is best?
The Sony a95k (a qd-oled) will get you as close as you can get to a mastering monitor in 2022. It only comes up to 65” though. If you need bigger, the Sony a90j is based on an lg panel, but their second best tv for straight movie quality. The other option would be LG g2 oleds. They are better for gaming than Sony, but the Sony has a small advantage in movies.
@HDTVTest Vincent can you please tell me what is the very best 55inch 4K on the market for my needs? 🙏 I only watch 4K discs, game on my PS5 & stream 4K content through the tv’s internal apps. I have to upgrade between now & February but the deals are on now till the end of the year. Would you recommend the A95K or something completely different?
Sup boss ❤️ Where is my Philips 9636 review? Been looking on the 936 and 9636 to see which would be best for me. You only have a 1 year old ”presentation” on the tv. I only trust you on youtube, and LTT.
Own 65c935 and the crackle atmos crackle is awful what firmware version did you test panel arrive with as there’s been no OTA updates for the tv thus far
Maybe it's the camera or RUclips compression but at 1:05 personally I think that TCL looks terrible. Skin tones look orange and nothing like the reference monitor. I'd rather see them a bit washed out then have everyone look like they are from the Jersey shore.
@El Cactuar oh Jesus. Double down on the 2012 cringe. Saying "you're welcome" as if it's some type of own 💀😂 Here. I'll join you. If this is your legitimate personality. I'd HIGHLY recommend you go touch grass lmfao.
TCL is honestly impressive to me, I feel like they kind of came out of nowhere in the past couple of years. Feel more comfortable recommending TCL at their prices than Samsung or LG to other people who aren't looking at the creme of the crop TVs
They've been making big waves since the P-Series wdym...
The chip is really holding this tv back from being great. I was reading they are going to use the same chip for next year's models.
From what I've heard a few months ago, they'll use the same chip + a coprocessor but I hope they change their mind and go for Pentonic
Sure Samsung R&D dept. has some clairvoyants inside their team wich suggests to downgrade their local dimming features in consecutive model years.
That’s why it’s cheap to keep it cheap lol
samsung=cheap (on sale) and cheerful (when QD OLED)
It would be a shame if they don't upgrade the processor, the C93 would be just about perfect if it had full uncompressed signal at 4K144hz.
Weird, according to the HDMI Wiki you only need 39Gbps for 4K144hzHDR, so the full 48Gbps bandwidth of HDMI 2.1 should be doing 4K at 175hz.
Display makers are leaving untapped potential.
I'll be honest. I like brighter. I'm not as much into reference accuracy. I definitely do appreciate the higher dimming zones though, hence I have a Samsung Neo G8 32" with its 1196 dimming zones. This is on a monitor size of 32" so its very concentrated.
The question isn't if Samsung can do it, its just a question of when they do it and at what price point. I have high hopes for dimming zones, eventually it may match OLED while not having to worry about OLED burn ins and dimming procedures.
If you look at a TV-s set in a store with your eyes, you won't see a radical difference. The picture is depend on setting also and it is different in the shops.
So these tests are good to help you decide. In many cases, even if the TV is better than other in terms of its parameters, there is a big price premium which is not worth the little extra.
I own the 75 inch TCL C935. Movie watching experience is top notch! No other non OLED can compete with it.
Great review as always. Beware who are sensitive to PWM flicker. I suspect C93 has the same strange PWM modulation C83 does have. Eyes are really strained by flickering.
Thank you! Someone else besides me who is aware of this issue!
Can confirm this too. Have been trying to figure out why I’ve been getting a lot of eye strain and headaches since getting the C935 recently. I thought it was too bright maybe so turned down the brightness, still didn’t work. Must have been the PWM flickering all along. Never had this on my previous Sony XH90
I captured 960fps video from 65" C935 and there was not any low frequency PWM backlight flicker.. it is likely 960hz or greater. If you want an example of PWM, try Samsung Qleds in game mode -> 120hz modulation..
@@WhatTheHex Yes 960Hz. But it differs in modulation from other brands. That's why you can't see anything through the camera. And that's why the eyes are straining so much. Just look at the R655 RTings test. C835 has the same behavior. I got rid of it for exactly this reason
Hands down, the best MiniLED TV of this year.
Vincent, could you please mention the firmware version as there are a lot of them working incorrectly on 75C935
All of noticeable defects found on the 75" C935 version including local dimming algorithm causing brighter line of illumination located at edge letterbox bar in cinema scope content aren't an on the 65" version of TCL C935. As per owner of this TV on AVFORUMS
that's true. 65 zoll no problem.
I bought the TCL c835 during the Black Friday sale because of your last video :). Do you think you can do a deep dive into the best settings for TCL tvs? You have already reviewed the TCL c835 and now the TCL c93.
I have been watching all the TCL videos that you've made and other RUclipsrs have made to try to get the best settings. But I'm sure there is so much more that that I can get out of this TV . So far I love it .
Thank you very much for the reviews!
I got a TCL 935 and I would love to figure out your recommended settings for it. I know every panel is slightly different, but having a professional with professional tools give you a good base config to follow helps so much!
TCL TVs do surprise you sometimes with what they give you for a so called budget TV. I guess if they went all out with features they'd have to charge more for their TVs.
Unfortunately room size limitations restricts me to a 50 inch TV and it seems Samsung is pretty much the only company making Mini LED televisions in that size. Not sure if I want to risk an OLED as even a ‘budget’ TV like the TCL would be a big investment for me and I’d want to get a lot of years’ use out of it.
Same size oled aren't so expensive if you wait price drop on late spring or during black friday. You can get 48 inch Oled for 899€ or less in Europe. I get a Panasonic jz1500 48 oled for 899€ in italy. The mini led Samsung 50 cost near the same cash
PLEASE do a comparison between the TCL C935 and Sony x95k....that would be the most relevant comparison! Also x95k 65" was going for just under $2000 on sale recently
There’s some issues with the audio that myself and many other customers are experiencing on our C935 TV’s right now that needs to be fixed in a firmware update and also in Europe none of our TV’s are receiving any over the air firmware updates to fix bugs. In other parts of the world customers are receiving firmware updates to their TV’s no problem via the software update option on their Android TV’s from TCL. But it seems in Europe, no one is getting any software updates.
The audio problem is intermittent. Sometimes watching some content is fine and then out of the blue the audio will start crackling. The workaround is to go into the settings menu and turn off the Dolby Atmos setting. Then it removes the issue, but the TV looses its “oomph” in sound.
Vincent, can you pass this info onto TCL?
He said he tested for that specifically and couldn't reproduce the issue on his unit.
@@E96 Yes I’m aware, I watched the video. Just because it didn’t happen when he tested his unit, doesn’t mean it’s not happening for the rest of us. It’s an intermittent issue as I said in my post above. Some people have reported the problem happening every few days, some have it all the time. I only get it occasionally, but it’s still there nonetheless. Vincent would be able to notify TCL about this to get their engineers to look into it.
FINALLY. We've been hearing about the next gen TCL TVs for almost a year now, and they've been available in Asia for four months. Great to see a copy finally make its way to the U.K.
Great to see TCL TVs finally getting reviewed here. Keep it up 👍
@El Cactuar and how is this crap lol? cope harder for your overpriced tv
@El Cactuar Except he doesn't full-on ignore the flaws of the TCL TVs and uses actual professional tools to truly represent what their performance means in real-life scenarios, like, you know, someone who actually uses facts over copium-induced opinions, like yours.
Increasing the number of dimming zones in each display size might help out even more.
Mini Led > oled for price, longevity, and brightness as a few reasons……
I think micro led is the future because apparently they can turn off individual pixels for oled level contrast while being capable of insane brightness levels
I recently replaced my SONY 55" Bravia with a 55" QLED TCL and this being my first non SONY TV I am thoroughly impressed in every aspect.
C835 is on crazy discount here, only thing keeping me from getting one is this C935. So I was expecting a better performance in terms of the algorithums. Hope they can fix some of them via updates？
In this video and in your earlier video (X95K vs C83), the TCL models seem to have the green colour less pronounced (the tree's algae in The Revenant and the green hue in Blade Runner 2049) compared to the reference monitor. Can't this be adjusted in the colour settings?
I’m always grateful that Vincent checks the 50Htz broadcast in in his reviews in the uk.
Can someone explain to me why the manufacturers can’t allow us to choose which port we would like to use for EArc? I find it extremely annoying that if you don’t have all 2.1 ports that you have to sacrifice one for EArc.
I actually like the qn75qn92b it has over 1400 dimming zones and thankfully makes up where the 90 and 95 lack
Been waiting so long for this video. Now I can finally sleep in peace.
Been waiting for this review for months. Thank you so much!
That processing is really holding it back
TCL goes in good direction but still a few problems to bo solved. Crossed fingers for future models.
The bright distorted line to the right and below anything black is absolutely horrible and unless fixed should be counted as a broken display. When it's worst it comes down 4-6 cm below the black bar completely distorting the top of the picture. Turning down contrast to around 55 in normal HD (no hdr) and for example turning up brightness instead, almost removes the worst distortion which is a better fix than turning local dimming to low or off, but still totally unacceptable to have to do any of that to try to fix the problem.
My 75c935 doesn't have this problem. I think it was a software problem and they have updated it or it was a problem with Vincent's model.
@@GabiFish that's strange because everyone in a group at avforums seem to have the problem but only with the 75 inch c935. And I've tried every firmware update out there, including now the newest testversion v999test5 which is pretty good but haven't fixed anything with that line or the crackling speaker problem when playing dolby audio content with the cinema sound mode which is also a problem it seems everyone have if they're using the built in speakers and playing dolby sound. How old is your TV, because maybe then they have fixed it on newer batches because it then probably would be hardware problems they maybe would have fixed.
@@kimwh7203 I do have problem with the sound on the built in speakers, fortunately I do not use them. I have just purchased the tv 2 days ago, but I do not know the manufacturing date. I was wrong, I do have that brighter line, but very faint. You really need to look for it and be very close to the TV to see it. From the couch it's not visible.
@@GabiFish yeah I didn't use the speakers much until recently when watching normal unimportant TV to save a little energy from my av system, but it's crazy that it has that fault and doesn't look like being fixed, especially when they boast of pretty good sound and atmos speakers etc and it can sound pretty impressive for a TV for example when the sound is aac where it doesn't seem to have the problem. About the bright line, it depends a lot on the colors and content. A very light colored sky seems to distort it most and sometimes orange and blue, and it's worst when the black bar is the normal movie aspect and not really in the thinner black bar mostly used it TV shows. If you happen to be able to watch the movie "The Menu" then the first 2 minutes in the movie where their are waiting at the harbour, some of the worst example of distortion I have seen, distorting sky and the top of face color. It's just such a shame cause for me it really ruins the overall picture quality when it catches my eyes in those scenes in a movie where it clearly shows. I had the TV for 6-7 months now and every time hoping the next firmware would solve it but doubt they can since it still hasn't happened.
@@kimwh7203 I have just watched the first 3 minutes, and the line it's really faint, barely noticeable, I am using Dolby Vision Bright. Maybe they have changed something with later models or maybe I'm just lucky.
How come TCL deliver deeper blacks but cannot see the trees behind at 12:17. Poor contrast!
I don't think I'll jump on a TCL until they give full uncompressed image quality at 4K144hz.
Biggest problem is I'm so happy with the firmware on the C1 that the idea of switching away from LG is kind of scary now, and LG OLED in 2023 is supposed to have numerous upgrades to improve HDR.
And of course if Samsung can just make stable firmware for QD-OLED they would have the best TV on the market.
I didn't think they had TV's that support 4K@144hz yet
@@maxstr It says right on the ports this TV is 4K144hz.
The S95B will do it with a custom resolution on PC as well.
@@budthecyborg4575 the LG C1 is not 144hz
@@maxstr ok
@@budthecyborg4575 ok what? Is it 120hz or is it 144hz? Because when I look at the specs online, the only thing mentioned anywhere is 4K at 120hz, the same as the LG C2. Are you sure about it being 144hz
I'd like a 27" version to use as a desktop monitor. Having to wait so long for decent 4K + HDR + VRR + no burn-in in desktop sizes. (OLED is already great for the sofa.)
Tempest gp27u
@@Zicrixdoesart I wrote that off due to not supporting VRR + HDR at once, but now I read they fixed it, which is good. But then I went looking for stores/prices and... it seems Cooler Master forgot Europe exists, lol. Oh well. Maybe one day.
when did yt fix the scrollbar? the only burn in i ever had is that red line and the blue ad button. at least they fixed the red line, that blue button is still here. thank god i mostly watch yt on my phone
Does anyone know if issues with light flood on top or other issues mentioned in video are fixed with FW update? Also what strikes me odd is that TCL claims on their site that all HDMI ports are 2.1, when in fact all evidence I can find points that only 2 ports are 2.1.
I sent u the question more than one time and you mentioned in tcl last video that 144 not working and need firmware update!! This time you didn’t say anything about it !!
That mean they will not fix the issue kindly respond
Dynamic tonemapping is always recommended to be off now?
I love the detail. This is wonderful stuff.
Can you do a video on TCL's "micro dimming"? I figure it is largely software controlled but is it any good at all? Or is it simply marketing gimmicks? How does it compare to FALD?
I recently returned a QN900B due to excessive blooming and it seems to be that the QN95B suffers the same. I have a QN94A which exhibits nothing like as much. So is it an across the range thing that Samsung have got horribly wrong with the B vs last year's A models?
I’ve got the 75" version. I paid 1600 euros for it and can honestly say that it’s a beast of a TV which nothing close to it at this price point of ever 500 euros more expensive!
Where? And when did you bought It at that price?
@@kleinestudio9694 Ubaldi France
About 5 weeks ago
LG B1 77” OLED was 1799€ here. I’m not saying it is better, but it’s not worse.
@@kiisseli1337 b1? Is that 120hz 4k?
** Can you address why every OLED I have owned or even looked at has a distorted reflection effect when looking at it while off from the side. The screen almost looks wobbly and reflections are distorted like a fun house mirror. You cannot notice it from the front or while the screen is on, it doesn't affect picture quality at all. When I got my first OLED (C9) I thought it was damaged or detective so I went to look at the displays at Best Buy. Virtually all of them had this characteristic as have the two other OLEDs I have owned since. Is it the anti-glare filter underneath the screen? Whatever is causing it seems to be under the screen, not the screen itself. I really hope you will respond to this comment. Thanks
2:23 What movie is this?
Oi mate, what is the closest thing to the Sony HX310? I mean from the 1000 dollar range tvs. Is it OLED?
Is Local Dimming a faulty tech which only works in a certain scene and situation?
Let says if there is 2 black bars at the top and bottom, the HBO wording is at the top right black area. I am seeing this HBO word getting dim from scene to scene for my TV, but the source suggest that this HBO word should be light up at a brightness level (if the local dimming is off) the whole movie. Is this normal?
As this translate that the subtitle or some details will always be affected by the local dimming adjustment.
Opposite of blooming, the local dimming will dim unnecessary areas, because dimming zones are at a much bigger size, which means its not working as intended.
Still no fix on the white line below the black bar in movie mode.
Curious as to how well these hold up over time?
Because of limited availability of the C935 and my old TV dying after a small bang, I choose to buy the 55C635 that was on sale for €400 with the idea to eventually move that to the bedroom and get a better one for the living room. But to be honest, I am quite impressed with the quality of the C635. Technology has improved drastically since I bought my 1600 euro LG TV in 2012.
I don't want OLED as this technology will cause burn in, or suffer from ridiculous measures to prevent burn in so that you can never fully enjoy the technology without fearin the dreaded burn in effect. If you spend 2000 euros on a TV I don't want that to be an issue.
I now am quite satisfied with the C635 and will wait for next years models or maybe even the year after that before I get my bigger TV for the living room as interesting improvements are most likely to happen with newer SOC's and maybe even finer miniled grids. Also Android TV 12 will bring an important feature that allows instant framerate switching (I hope that TCL will give an update to this version on the C635).
Oh and TCL: the fact that the volume indicater will not disappear when you mute the speakers is simply stupid. I don't want to go through all menus to change the setting to ARC everytime I just want audio on my surround set. Luckily when you set the volume to 1, it is barely audible but I really hope this will be fixed with an update.
TCL = The Chinese Liars
Thanks for the comparison but please can you help me decide between TLC C935 and HISENSE A85H in 65" please.
My A80K is here! I have a question regarding HDMI settings. I use an AV receiver (X2700H). My PS5 is plugged into the 8K/4K120 input on the receiver, and then Apple TV and Oppo 203 in the other inputs. Receiver out to HDMI 3 on the TV (8K, eARC, etc.). Should I set HDMI to enhanced or enhanced Dolby Vision?
offtopic: in one of your last videos you recommended HDMI-cables. I just can't find it anymore. Can you tell me the brand/model?
HI... Is this Better than the TCL C855 ??? Picture? color? Motion? Contrast? ECT
I am totally lost now, especially because of this bright line on top of the screen. Which would you advise to go for size 65inch, C935 or Q80B? And is should i not consider QNED 86?
Is there any image quality difference between the Samsung QN90B and QN95B? The 95B is just slightly more expensive, $200. Still on the edge.
Salve vorrei acquistare un Sony xr a90j poi ho visto il top della Sony xr a95k, ma per quanto costano e non so se pentirmi mi sono orientato sul TCL c93 ma non ho modo di vederlo dal vivo! Che mi consiglia ne merita e ne vale la pena oppure mi dovrei orientare su marchi più conosciuti come sony, Samsung, LG ? Grazie per laiuto. 🙏
What is the equivalent model number in the US? A friend is looking for a non-OLED 55" TV and this would be perfect.
I bought a cheap budget friendly LG 55UP7550. Is there anything I can do to make it better than what it is when it comes out of the box?
Hiya Vincent. Can you please do a video on game settings on this year's Samsungs and explain what the latest HDR settings in game mode are all about. X
hello I have a problem with the Samsung QLED 65" Q77T tv my son was playing in the service menu and now the picture is very dark and you can't enter the service menu anymore. Please help
Are you still in communication with Samsung on the S95B VRR and Game Mode HDR firmware issues Vincent?
Having a high respect for your insight, do you think Sony will produce a higher end 43" LED TV than the X85K in the near future, or is their focus in another direction? If not, I will purchase the current offering out of pressing need. Much thanks.
Talk about cutting corners. They do everything else right but skimp out on the processor lol
There's was nothing better available from Mediatek at the time the TV was produced.
If you want a better Mediatek Chip all brands like TCL, Philips, Sony have to wait til next year.
I would like to know what is your personal TV that you have at home. Surely that's the consensus you arrived to be the best tv
What is the difference between TCL R655 and the C835 we get in Australia (Google TV)
@hdtvtest you had another video about this TV where you had an interview with the head of TCL Europe. Is it deleted? Now I cannot find it.
After having watched that, this video of yours confused me. I was very eager to buy one, now I have second thoughts..
BTW why do you compare it to a previous generation TCL which is also a different size (65C83 vs 75C93)?
Edit: found the previous video
tcl UI and software is plagued with bugs/glitches. many TCL flasgship TVs still from 2019/2020 still have gone unfixed to date.
Can you do a buyer's guide for OLED TVs for Xbox Series X that would tick all required boxes on it?
I have the C83 and when connecting my HDMI 2.1 graphics card to HDMI 1, I cannot enable the Game Master. Would you be able to talk to TCL about this?
Scratch that, found everything, me dumb.
i was gonna go for the qn95 b over the sony x95k, both seem really good. thanks
What is the video called for this test, I want to try this on my qn92b
Wasn't dynamic tonemapping supposed to carry over the creative intent? Why is Samsung applying some kind of overbrightning on top of the tonemapping metadata? Just to look extremely bright in the store?
They're not. Their dynamic tone mapping just can't be turned off. They aren't adding anything extra
Hi Vincent, I picked-up my LG Oled 55 C2 the other day, it's Quality in both watching and gaming on my Xbox Series X BUT I know it can / should look even better with a tweak to some settings via calibration !!
I was wondering if you know of anywhere that shows the calibration settings that I could refer to / copy or would you be willing to calibrate my C2 for me.....Obviously, I'm willing to pay you, I would like to have my C2 showing the most accurate picture possible for both watching and gaming, so I thought I'd ask the best guy on RUclips !!
Any Help / Info will be Very much Appreciated !!
HI can you help me with Settings for the C935? i have 75"
Is a Sony oled the best tv to buy then? I’m mainly looking for a tv that will show me what the director wanted me to see if whatever I’m watching. And if so, which Sony oled is best?
A95K is the best 4K Sony TV
The Sony a95k (a qd-oled) will get you as close as you can get to a mastering monitor in 2022. It only comes up to 65” though. If you need bigger, the Sony a90j is based on an lg panel, but their second best tv for straight movie quality.
The other option would be LG g2 oleds. They are better for gaming than Sony, but the Sony has a small advantage in movies.
@@mrsittingmongoose yeah I knew about the a95k but it’s a bit expensive at this time so I was only looking at the regular oled models.
I’ll check out the a90j then. Ty
@@Anony.Mousse if the a90j is too expensive, you can look at the lg g2, then the lg c2, in that order. The lgs often go on sale.
Without exposure from the camera I'd bet the QN95B looks better. A shame the EOTF curve is fuckep up though
@HDTVTest Vincent can you please tell me what is the very best 55inch 4K on the market for my needs? 🙏 I only watch 4K discs, game on my PS5 & stream 4K content through the tv’s internal apps. I have to upgrade between now & February but the deals are on now till the end of the year. Would you recommend the A95K or something completely different?
S95b
Will streaming from Apple TV 4K look better then using built in app in TV?
Thank you for your amazing review! 🥳 Do you have your preferred TCL 935 HDR movie settings available anywhere? 😊
Sup boss ❤️ Where is my Philips 9636 review? Been looking on the 936 and 9636 to see which would be best for me. You only have a 1 year old ”presentation” on the tv. I only trust you on youtube, and LTT.
The blooming on the q95b is horrendous
How does it cómprate to the Hisense u8h?
Good video as always. Do you have a Samsung Qn95b video by itself? Thank you.
Is the c93 essentially the 6 series in the US? The r655 model?
No. The R655 is the C83. The C93 was supposed to he the 8 series in the US but apparently TCL decided not to release it.
@@E96 I see. Thank you for clarifying
great vid as usual vince. hoping you do one with the hisense u8h sometime
Man, when willl Samsung finally get rid of always on dynamic tone mapping?
Big manufacturers are trying to much to make the image look "better".
Has anyone calibrated their 75" C935? Looking for some advice please
Above 1000€ I'll always go Oled unless you have the TV exposed to sun from south. Picture quality on oled is on other level
@Hichem im on a e9 since release, its still ok.
Does the TCL TV hammers you with adverts? If not it may be another advantage over Samsung (and others).
Nope, never seen that.
Do you have a video on LG's delay on MLA?
Nice that you add pixel response time now 👍 It would be nice add ufo 🛸 test also to see how good tv really is in motion
Hi guys I would like to ask something. Is IPS and OLED TVs have difference in bright room except pixel response time?
IPS is LED
@@E96 wow that's surprising
Are you going to test the hisense u8h?
Did you notice crackling sound in Atmos content while using internal apps?
Not on our review sample throughout our review period, and we have specifically looked out for it.
@@hdtvtest Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Own 65c935 and the crackle atmos crackle is awful what firmware version did you test panel arrive with as there’s been no OTA updates for the tv thus far
Can you review the TCL C635?
I guess TCl is great at backlighting, but have poor chips for max picture quality and motion. If they got the chips right - they might be in control.
i have a samsung 55" q80b ( QA55Q80BAUXZN ) doe's it have FreeSync Premium Pro ? if yes , how can i turn on the FreeSync Premium Pro ?
Any comparisons to the hisense u8h 75”?
So basically skip TCL this year as well and hope for the next year models.
Maybe it's the camera or RUclips compression but at 1:05 personally I think that TCL looks terrible. Skin tones look orange and nothing like the reference monitor. I'd rather see them a bit washed out then have everyone look like they are from the Jersey shore.
@El Cactuar found the TCL owner
@El Cactuar The guy who's still correcting minor grammatical errors in RUclips comment sections in 2022... As if it's still funny and or matters.
@El Cactuar oh Jesus. Double down on the 2012 cringe. Saying "you're welcome" as if it's some type of own 💀😂
Here. I'll join you. If this is your legitimate personality. I'd HIGHLY recommend you go touch grass lmfao.
When are we doing Hisense u8h? 😁