Making Art Friends is hard.
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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I’ve been wanting art friends but I have social anxiety, it’s so hard to make friends. I haven’t made any friends for years because I get too scared and ghost them 😭 I have my best friend and my boyfriend and that’s it. I tried joining a art discord server but it was too overwhelming.
This and the gatekeeper friends.
Me and my VERY small friend group of artists absolutely love bouncing ideas off of each other, and saying "Hey, I wanna do that" with absolutely no problem.
But then there's the ones that believe everyone is copying them, everyone WANTS to copy them, and they absolutely have to protect their precious oc with no exception. To the point they nitpick at every possible chance they see a similarity with their oc and someone COMPLETELY different's oc.
Super tiring, super annoying.
OMG YES!!, I had a friend like this in the 3rd grade and they NEVER grew out of it lol
There's this person in a server I'm in (furry server btw) and they got mad at someone for making a black pink and blue kd bc they had an oc with the same colors (different hues different spots btw) and also their oc was a cat and they tried to use an older design that they didn't show bc "old art" when they've shown old art b4 and they told them to take the adopt down (also kittydog or Zola did it first so uhhh,,,)
A bit related, I have tried to become a friends with one dude and he would'nt tell almost anything about his characters cuz it's some kind of "project". BUT he would constantly make references to his universe as if you're expected to know what he's talking about 😐no wonder why it didn't work out
people don't owe you an answer to your messages, that's just how it is
I was thinking this through the video, a lot of the complaining about artists not answering dms just sounds like entitlement to me
Fundamentally inhuman response to atomization lmao
@@kalirose9126 "Wow, you crave human connection and dislike how so many people have trouble reaching out to each other?!?!? So entitled!1!!!!11"
The brainrot is crazy ong.
@IchorOfTheManndrake the fact that THAT is what you gathered from my message is the real brainrot... we don't, as professionals on our professional account especially, owe everyone a message back. It's insane that you think that is incorrect.
@@kalirose9126 No, what's insane is you pretending someone wanting connection with others like them is entitlement. It's good to see you're the type to put words in other people's mouths tho.
I get it so much! I'm so awkward and bad at making new close friends eck
I have a ton of artist friends online but theres one that was more than a bit questionable.
She was really fun for awhile, and was super passionate about her ocs and art. After a few months she moved to another platform for the most part, okay cool whatever. A lot of my friends started using that platform at the time. I think it was around that time that she introduced me to her friend, who I later found out was her partner. After awhile she started to post more fandom stuff than her own, which i didnt think much of. She started to shift to yet another platform, which I kind of ignored for awhile. There was one point where i jokingly made a comment about marrying her oc (said oc had a boyfriend) and she said she didnt care about her ocs. THAT is when i realized how much she changed. Just a few months before we made gcs so we could talk about our ocs, mostly hers, because she loved making and talking about her ocs so much.
Eventually i got a little annoyed that she kept ignoring everyone that wasnt her new friends on the platform she mostly moved to so I mentioned the idea of me getting that platform to her. She was fine with it but when I tried to find her account i found her simping account for another user. She panicked and gave me the link to her normal account. Unfortunately, i already looked at it and it was a bunch of her and this other user saying VERY sexual stuff about each other. keep in mind, she was younger than me (I'm in early teens) and at the time I didnt know she was dating the friend she introduced me to earlier. I said something about the simping account to a few friends and thats when one of them pointed out age concerns, because we had no clue how old this person was. i decided to ask the person who I thought was just her best friend to see if they knew what was happening and uh, I still feel a bit guilty about that since thats how they found out she was cheating on them.
She hasnt been online for months, but im still in touch with her ex and now that theyre in a healthier relationship theyre realizing that she was never really a good girlfriend in the first place. Im not going to share the stuff theyve told me because thats not my place but its killed the idea of me ever wanting to be her friend again if she ever comes online.
She wasnt great to the rest of us either now that i think about it. One of our friends wasnt able to get other platforms than the one we originally met on because of her parents, and commented how little this friend ever even tried to talk to her anymore. She also had a joke marriage with my other friend, before just suddenly telling him that theyre going to divorce without giving any reason (this is a normal thing for my friend group, but normal its all silly and jokes so this seemed really sudden, especially with how serious she was about it.)
I'll stop rambling now, sorry if this was hard to follow. I've had other... interesting experiences with people online as well, though this was probably the largest and was the only one where it had to do with art and was actually someone i considered a friend.
Sounds like someone I knew on Twitter...
I'm not in the channel demographic(I'm getting near to 40 over here) but the topic of art friends has been on my mind a little bit because of Artfight. I've never done Artfight before but decided to dip a toe into it this year, and it gives a really clear cross-section of what types of people are making character art, especially what they talk about in the Discord, which becomes a firehose during the event. And yes, it's all of those types of artist, plus the people that are really there for free art, so when they see something nicely rendered they all-caps "OMG YOU'RE SO GOOD, FOLLOWED".
I'm more of a storyteller than an illustrator - I can draw, but drawing is instrumental to making comics and cartoons, and I'm also approaching it as a hobby and can't really be bothered polishing or following trends - so of course none of the designs I have posted have gotten any exuberant response like that. But I already have a friend circle, and they are on the same wavelength and get my jokes and know the boundaries - benefits of age. The thing about being able to tell stories is that so much of what motivates the character art is within the story, and being a young demographic, they don't have story worked out yet(it's very hard to do without at least some life experiences), so most of what people post as character art is empty doll OCs. In some ways it can be beautiful to see all those OCs and the spectrum of what they represent.
Philosopher Heather Marsh would describe these characters as "endo-ideals" - something that the artist is "reflecting", assigning credit to and reassigning blame away from to a "negative image", as a kind of defensive mechanism. She has written a few books exploring aspects of this, which really did a lot to explain the whole artist and fan-ship dynamic to me and why it occurs, even though she never discusses that as an example.
When I look at celebrities, the only ones that seem capable of keeping their head on straight are the ones who are consistent about saying, "no, it's just a job", and maybe they do have to withdraw into privacy to do that.
omg you're so good, followed /jk
You know, this makes me very glad that I found a little group of friends online who are pretty nice people and we encourage each other!
Even though our interests don't perfectly align we still talk about things together regarding our creations and fandoms.
I should note that you are not entitled a response from creators, no matter the size of following. It doesn't say anything about them as a person or their character if they don't respond to DMs, even if they talk in discord servers. I personally don't really like talking to people I don't know outside of public settings like a discord server. Even with a tiny tiny little following I have some really bad experiences with DMs where responding to a question quickly turned into getting roped into an uncomfortable conversation with someone who's really parasocial. I also have someone whos been stalking me for 8+ years who often pretends to be a "fan" to try and message or befriend me, only to do something like set their pfp to images of me pre transition. You can get some really scary people in your DMs sometimes and it can be a little nerve-wracking to respond to them because of this. Some people genuinely forget that I am not a "micro celeberty" I am a real person with boundaries who happens to share my work online. If someone has the boundary "dont message me", even if youre messaging them on another platform, you shouldn't take it personally if they dont respond. There is a huuuge difference between messages in a public comment section or discord server, and messages in private. This video overall was really nice but the last section kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
this video rlly resonates w me cuz i remember desperately wanting art friends as well! i am really fortunate and thankful to have an art class friend group and they are all amazing people but some things you gotta note are that the people you wabt to become friends with are probably just like you, socially awkward and most likely introverted. in these situations you gotta take the initiative and actually try to talk and engage in stuff. but i will say that even after you try to talk to them they are really dry with you and acts as if they dont want to talk to you, its best to find other people as you can do so much better than them.
ohhh this is a tip, once you gather people who are possibly your future art friends, BE THE ONE TO CREATE THE GROUP CHAT/SERVER being the discird mod and having the control of wether or not you ban someone is so cool :3
best of luck to whoever's reading this and i hope u find some amazing people!
I really want to have art friends, but I'm just not good at talking or making friends, I have friends, but none of them likes to draw, and some times I just want to sit with a artist friend and draw stupid things like sans undertale
same!!
OMG THIS IS SO REAL 😭 I wanna make friends with more artists (or like any artist) but some people are just so judgy and see everyone else as competition to the point it is lowkey scary to even imagine it
FRRR wanna be friends? :D
Just found your channel, and man everything you explained was very on point. I've had a lot of issues with other artists too, but i've always tried not to take it to heart.
i get this honestly, even as an artist with a kind of not really large amount of followers, ive never made any art friends in real life nor online 😭 im too socially awkward and i have no idea how to slip into someones dms and say "heyy wanna be friends" or something similar, and continue on the conversation and form a bond 😭
Real 🙏☹️
So real, sometimes people ask me to be mutuals with them, I agree but after that I don’t really know what to do :/ I don’t know how to start conversations,I don’t know how to continue them, I don’t know how to be friends with people. I can’t ask somebody to be my friend cuz i won’t be able to continue the relationship and make it grow.
I never been in art friends group before, I do have a few art friends but I don't really talk to them because of some reasons and some of them are busy, I wish I could be in this friends group and want to experience what is it feel like, at the same time it's scared me to interact with them, I'm not surprised if these people act this way, we just need to be careful who we be friends with especially on social media :))
I mostly struggle with making friends on the online side, But I promise reaching out just a little bit is all you really need :3 Good luck! (Beautiful content by the way)
If everybody is your friend, nobody is your friend. You can be friendly without ACTUALLY being people's friend and thats not a bad thing. Youre just being respectful and positive. Relationships in general take time to build and time is something we dont have a lot of. Not in this world at least. Just be nice and if you click with someone then that's cool. If not, let them be. I dont know.
I think the reason why artists have cliques is because most artists are already ostracized in Highschool or otherwise. It’s very likely that artists are usually the odd ones out or are nerds, different, etc.
So it makes sense that they stick to their cliques longer…
I do think the small friend group/clique thing is also just people… not needing more friends than that. Some people are comfortable having just 3 good friends over… like.. 10-20 friends.
I can see why the dramatic people tie into these groups but it’s usually just people who are insecure about themselves that have nothing better going on in their lives. Usually it’s just a cumulative of wanting to prove they’re “good people” or something or it’s that they just don’t care about who they surround themselves with… 🤷
Anyways… this video sorta makes me wanna make my own video about this subject. Or more so the second half of the video haha. Thanks for sharing your opinions!
Yes!! And if you do make a video I’d love to watch it, I love hearing other peoples opinions and views on topics
Cliques never go away. They are more common when ur a kid, but college and beyond still have it
t. College graduate
I'm also an artist, I have a few artist friends. But it is hard to make friends. I'd love to make more art friends :)
Your art is so cool!!! ❤❤ we can be friends if you want :D
U like rottmnt lets be friends 🤝
Haven't seen the entire video yet, tho I like the vibes.
I have this really talented art friend who loved her fandoms and her OC's and recently she just, stopped, making art. Her other friends were bullying her and saying awful things about her art that eventually she just gave up. which is so sad to see since she's like my closest art friend ever even compared to my irl art friend (dont ever tell them I said that). She LOVED making art and she loved sharing it with her friends. The others and I were trying to convince her to continue art if it truly makes her happy, which it did, hopefully she can come back to it soon.
Thank you for the types honestly, personally I thought I would list myself as one of them but uhh. I don't know
Back then I used to make a crap ton of online friends(I literally had at least 4 or more groups) but I decided to ghost them all up fearfully because a lot has changed and I was extremely immature for the past 7+ years of my whole life. Nowadays I just usually hide most of my art 24/7 on both online AND in real life, and that I usually keep my things online in less noticeable and forgettable places. But hey, what's better than having no specific friends at all?
I'm so fed up that I have no problems being straightforward and literaly asking "wanna try be friend?". It's, actually, the easiest part. Then you have to connect with person and most of the time they don't really want to talk to you, funny isn't it??? People will be like "yay yes sure!!" and the next second they will do no effort to get to know each other and forget about you on the next day unless you will text first. Like, bruh... don't waste my time please just say "no, thank you though ❤" IT'S NOT THAT HARD
Amazing!
Your arts cool as hell
i really like your art style!!! :D
I don't usually comment on anything anymore, but honestly I just found you not too long ago and I like yo content, keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!! I’m glad you like the videos 🩵🫧
We can be art friends!!
I haven't watched this video yet, but yes it be hard... I've been in the art community since 2012 first starting on deviantART. Especially in those earlier years it was actually easier as a pretty small artist to talk to whoever - I had a solid artist friend group till dA started dying after 2015? In the entirety of time I spent on Instagram since 2015 I only made 1 consistent friend... something about Instagram doesn't promote the same friendships forming like the old dA used to do, much less genuine interaction focused, and the community in itself being bigger now makes it harder too, I experienced this in another community I was in. That bein said luckily all my experiences with art friends has been positive!
Nowadays any "art friend" I make is one I met in fandom/on Discord somewhere, the quotation marks are bc while we're close friends our main interactions aren't art focused, if that makes sense? :o which is fine by me too, I'm happy with this. I'm just saying it feels like there's not much use making connections in the art community anymore.. it feels weird. Making art friends through fandom (especially smaller ones) or other niche communities/interests might be the way to go.
Gosh yeah I get you it was amazing to find an art friend on DA and just geek out about what you were drawing and such, I was on DA around that time as well and made a wonderful online friend. Something about that platform at that time just made it easier to find and talk to new people in a way that other platforms just haven't been able to replicate. Good point about the niche communities though. Also your art is so pretty!
@@nightshadevii5196 aww thank you! And yes, its Just harder to know people in a bigger community. One of the communities I was in during 2020 was still pretty niche, most ppl knew each other and all the stupid dramas and stuff lol, but now it seems pretty.. disjointed after it got bigger. Smaller communities are always the best place to find friends.
Ur art is so coolllll:0
its worse when one to the tips (to improving in art) is to show people (more experienced) your art to get advice lol.
Awesome video! I'm a quite person just cuz social interaction do be hard. Keep making cool videos
omg what i'd do to have artist friends...
I LOVE YOUR CONTENT LIKE I JUST SEE IT AND YOUR TALKS R SO COOL I LOVE I JUST SAW IT TDAY!!! HOW DO U MAKE SKETCHES? IM NOT RLLY GOOD AT DRAWING AND I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THERES A RIGHT OR WRONG WAY
I would offer to be your art friend but lord u would find me weird 😭
Hey, can we be art friends?
Who wants to be art friends? Reply.
This video was great!! 🎉 :)
I have zero art friends.. its lowkey lonely
I hope you make some soon! Js gotta keep your head up🩵🫧
I havent finished the video yet but i just wanted to say that the music is loud while youre speaking and it can make you hard to understand!!
Anyone wanna be art friends ?
i do! ^^
Me too!
You have a discord or something? We can share each others art and give healthy criticism (if needed).
@@Tinacha_Art Me too I guess, is there such a thing as too many art friends? :D
@@Tinacha_Art I have a discord!
17:34 her right hand is backwards, is that part of her character or lore?
That’s her pinky 😅
Yeah it’s difficult I don’t have art friends 😅
With the alastor guy, it's really weird he doesn't like any ship with alastor because of his love for him...But i actually don't like any ship with alastor either, cause since he's aroace, it kinda feels like erasing the representation...
With everything else, i'm totally with you, some people are crazy
super random question, but whats the song playing behind the video? :0
Traverse town from kingdom hearts!
Let me guess the hazbin hotel ship was Alastor x Valentino
If yes i cant blame you i love it too
12:36
If it's creepy in a concerning way, please, if you're comfortable, if it's a friend of a friend, make sure they're not getting groomed. :(
That's why a lot of kids will ship really out of pocket, disturbing ships.
OR they're dipping their hand into storytelling, and are using two characters from media that they enjoy as test writing, and even then, just make sure they're doing okay, and inform them about proper tagging and if it's "intimate" writing tell them not to post that publicly, it's a surefire way of getting gross people in their DMs and it's better for their safety, that they don't post content like that.
You, the Creator don't need to do this! this Comment is mainly just for other people, and the art community in general.
I also do want to apologize if this comment is rude, out-of-pocket? if it comes off that way
i have art moots but i have no idea how to talk to them😭