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  • @BeansEnjoyer911
    @BeansEnjoyer911 7 месяцев назад +1715

    not hearing the metronome because everyone is on beat is so fucking satisfying

    • @tonycooper5599
      @tonycooper5599 7 месяцев назад +64

      Hearing everyone hit the beat because of the metronome is so satisfying.

    • @jamesramos1200
      @jamesramos1200 7 месяцев назад +19

      Not having the metronome priceless.

    • @DomesticatedDemon
      @DomesticatedDemon 6 месяцев назад +10

      When the metronome is just another percussion instrument 🪇😬🪇

    • @PM-xu2nq
      @PM-xu2nq 6 месяцев назад +8

      fuck do you mean? you can hear it quite clearly throughout lol

    • @brin57
      @brin57 5 месяцев назад +12

      Such a soul destroying way to play music !!

  • @iamsancho304
    @iamsancho304 10 месяцев назад +2560

    I knew they had metronomes but hearing eachother into a mix is super dope!

    • @tims001
      @tims001 10 месяцев назад +39

      That's been around for a while ❤

    • @codycurnutte9778
      @codycurnutte9778 10 месяцев назад +61

      It depends on the person and what instrument they play. I played both rhythm and lead guitar for 4 years weekly and would always just have lead vocals, metronome, a touch of percussion and the other guitarist. Keys bass and filler vocals were always killed for me.

    • @nicolasfernandez7402
      @nicolasfernandez7402 10 месяцев назад +6

      Yep, even my band monitors ourselves, we sound like our recordings

    • @casaroli
      @casaroli 10 месяцев назад +14

      Not all have metronomes in their monitors.

    • @samaldini
      @samaldini 10 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@codycurnutte9778honestly if i had to play like this, I'd pre record fake and not care. Real music is like classical music or even jazz, nothing in your ear, no monitors. The idea of monitor makes it fake already for me so I'd really not care and fake the whole thing

  • @ljm_2011
    @ljm_2011 10 месяцев назад +2308

    You know you’re groovin when that click just disappears bc you’re all so locked in

    • @grannygumjob8290
      @grannygumjob8290 9 месяцев назад +1

      Best feeling ever honestly

    • @jhonpaulmorante3182
      @jhonpaulmorante3182 8 месяцев назад +35

      best feeling ever when using metronome.

    • @alexstengel8066
      @alexstengel8066 8 месяцев назад +2

      Nothing else like it

    • @ZeroESG.goopootoob
      @ZeroESG.goopootoob 8 месяцев назад +7

      Playing to clicks is for robot sheep, and lame bands with no soul to jam.

    • @S1L3NTBUTCH3R
      @S1L3NTBUTCH3R 8 месяцев назад

      @@ZeroESG.goopootoobsome use it live but don’t record in the studio to the click. The number of drummers who are fine with this because it makes their lives easier… You’re just a fool.

  • @DomesticatedDemon
    @DomesticatedDemon 9 месяцев назад +1240

    They hear what they want to hear. A bass player might want only the bass drum and a click. The guitarist might want only bass n drums. It's really a personal preference thing

    • @ShadamAran
      @ShadamAran 9 месяцев назад +102

      As a pro bassist I usually have to have the guitar or whatever lead instrument matching my volume. Only hearing bass drum and a click would be a disaster lol

    • @DomesticatedDemon
      @DomesticatedDemon 9 месяцев назад +28

      @@ShadamAran I'm a drummer and learned in a live environment, playing with mostly just a guitarist. So I prefer the bass and guitar at equal volume too, and sometimes a tad of vocal for cues, but that depends on the venue.

    • @ethangear5608
      @ethangear5608 8 месяцев назад +6

      It completely depends on what I'm playing that show if I'm playing bass I want to hear drum vox and guitar I don't want to hear myself, if I'm playing guitar I want evrything, if I'm doing vocals same as guitar

    • @mathewerenberger7275
      @mathewerenberger7275 8 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah I can't imagine not having the guitar sound as well in fact as a bassist you need to hear absolutely everything.

    • @jd0879
      @jd0879 8 месяцев назад

      Lmao dumbest shit take ever

  • @schizophreniagaming4058
    @schizophreniagaming4058 10 месяцев назад +864

    The song name is Seen It All, the band is While She Sleeps

    • @i2ottenBannana
      @i2ottenBannana 8 месяцев назад +43

      Seen it all while she sleeps? Interesting I wonder if she knows about it

    • @Usa13b
      @Usa13b 8 месяцев назад +10

      Thank you for that

    • @TheCoolStuffHD
      @TheCoolStuffHD 8 месяцев назад +13

      I’ve seen it all*

    • @Alice-the-seal
      @Alice-the-seal 8 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks!

    • @dent6110
      @dent6110 8 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for the information
      Keep On Keepin On

  • @francobuzzetti9424
    @francobuzzetti9424 8 месяцев назад +111

    i love how the click disappears once they're locked in

    • @gavinvalentino1313
      @gavinvalentino1313 8 месяцев назад +14

      The click is clearly there the whole time, the volume has simply been lowered in sections.
      The drummer's off-time kickflubs necessitate that the click is always on.

    • @hektixkitzo
      @hektixkitzo 8 месяцев назад +5

      I noticed opposite, how annoying it is constantly hearing it.

    • @yoeyyoey8937
      @yoeyyoey8937 8 месяцев назад

      It doesn’t it’s terrible idk why they can’t just play normal

    • @TheMusicftw1
      @TheMusicftw1 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@yoeyyoey8937 They are a very successful band - you are not in one. So shut.

  • @Ca33ag3
    @Ca33ag3 4 месяца назад +24

    Sound engineer here - Monitor engineers are highly underrated. The Front of House engineer makes 1 mix for the entire audience but the monitor engineer has multiple mixes on the go. A 5 piece vand like WSS may have 10+ mixes (1x mic for each band member plus side fill monitors, drum box and maybe some stage wedges), plus the added sources like the click and cues on top
    Shoutout to my fellow monitor engineers out there
    Also with the levels in this short it sounds like we’re hearing a mix for the drummer

  • @ashleymorton9623
    @ashleymorton9623 10 месяцев назад +501

    Went to college with this lad good to see him done so well

    • @gdavies4
      @gdavies4 9 месяцев назад +30

      Sean is unreal! I could listen to an album of just him doing instrumentals

  • @godsinbox
    @godsinbox 7 месяцев назад +280

    internal voice, 'dont f this up' x100

    • @TheKnutselaar
      @TheKnutselaar 6 месяцев назад

      Just record it and play it before the countdown

    • @guitarmeansfreedom
      @guitarmeansfreedom 5 месяцев назад +7

      If you say that to yourself you will f up because you're to focused on it now at that point. So stay calm and rely on muscle memory

    • @djjazzyjeff1232
      @djjazzyjeff1232 4 месяца назад +2

      @@guitarmeansfreedom 1000% correct. What you really want to say is something like, "alright, let em see what you got."

  • @KittyKarenpoo
    @KittyKarenpoo 4 месяца назад +22

    Most people have no idea that musicians can only hear what the sound man feeds them, and it is completely different from what the audience hears. Split out entirely different, sometimes featuring one thing over the other. For example, the bassist and drummer need to hear each other and everyone has to hear the lead singer so they know when to drop in and out at the breaks. When I played bass I had almost no interest in hearing the lead guitar, so that was diminished to half. When I played lead, I had little need to hear bass. If you don't get the feed, you can literally stand in front of the bass or guitar cabs or even in front of the drums and not hear any of those instrument. I once had a cable slip out of my cab (caused by a sloppy tech) mid song and while kneeling in front of my 850 watt cab, I couldn't hear what I was playing on a perfectly working amp. I lost the feed from the drums, once, and was in front of them and had no idea what the beat was. I had to turn around and watch his hands to know. If the sound is bad, never blame the band. Go see if the sound man is playing with his phone.

    • @spyder027
      @spyder027 3 месяца назад

      You can also mix your own ears

  • @joshuayates4952
    @joshuayates4952 8 месяцев назад +129

    As a musician I can attest that this is real. But each musician gets to set their preferences and a click isn’t always present and they just go off the drums/bass. Normally the sound is actually better for the musicians because it’s the mix going straight to their ears at healthy volumes rather than through the system then into the crowd where your location can have a big impact on what you hear more of

    • @ceraldo8635
      @ceraldo8635 7 месяцев назад +1

      Does it have anc or it naturallu allows to not hear the sound from the amps?

    • @112Haribo
      @112Haribo 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@ceraldo8635 The in-ear plugs are molded to your ear so they perfectly seal. No ANC needed.

    • @joshuayates4952
      @joshuayates4952 6 месяцев назад

      @@ceraldo8635 sorry for the late reply but @112Haribo is right. Even if the In-Ear Monitors (IEMs) are not molded, they’ll have foam tips that expand in your ear canal creating a strong seal. Generally, you can’t hear the audience except through what mics pick up which isn’t a lot

    • @menschlicheswesen84
      @menschlicheswesen84 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@112HariboOnly if you get an otoplastic before, i bet normal in ear's would not fit for my ears... Cause normaly they're all to big...

  • @null.9255
    @null.9255 7 месяцев назад +202

    yall hating on professionalism is crazy..

    • @zerosoma33
      @zerosoma33 7 месяцев назад +15

      I know, it’s like playing without a click is somehow evil and a lost art. Never thought I’d see the day!!

    • @Hillside_East
      @Hillside_East 6 месяцев назад +3

      We often play better without a click😂

    • @cliffschannel2521
      @cliffschannel2521 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wish I could get my band to play with a click . I record everything always through my A&H mixer to multitrack onto an SD card so I can drop it into my daw or just review the performances . Also use the recordings for my virtual soundchecks. The click allows me to more easily manipulate in the daw .

    • @Hillside_East
      @Hillside_East 5 месяцев назад

      @@cliffschannel2521 What kind of music do you guys do?

    • @cliffschannel2521
      @cliffschannel2521 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hillside_East We do mostly grunge covers with a few from the early 2000's . I went through the 70's , 80,s but when the Seattle thing happened in the 90's it really hit me . I didnt care for the 80's much but the 90's really hit me hard and though I was older than those from that era it just seemed like my kind of music .

  • @holliefitzzz
    @holliefitzzz 10 месяцев назад +39

    and this is when the onstage sound is good! when it's bad, youre just lost in a cloud of sound and youre staring at the drummers hands for a visual metronome

    • @ParallaxSound315
      @ParallaxSound315 8 месяцев назад +7

      With in ears, like this band (and all other bands with metronomes) uses, the onstage sound is ALWAYS good. That's kind of the point

    • @MickH60
      @MickH60 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ParallaxSound315 You played live much, it sometimes all goes to sh1t my friend, I've had my foldback drop completely out, I've seen in ears do the same thing, I prefer foldback monitors, I've NEVER used click tracks, they didn't even exist when I started playing live...

    • @ParallaxSound315
      @ParallaxSound315 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@MickH60 I literally just played live again a couple days ago.
      Yes, shit happens, but the idea behind IEMs is to mitigate the amount of things that can go wrong.
      Also, I doubt that, because Keith Moon from The Who would use a click track for live performances

    • @filipeventura2729
      @filipeventura2729 6 месяцев назад

      @@ParallaxSound315 keith richards from the who is great

    • @ParallaxSound315
      @ParallaxSound315 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@filipeventura2729 Fuck, I meant Keith Moon lmao
      That's what happens when you type after being up all night

  • @joseph23288
    @joseph23288 Год назад +792

    Holy crap they are freaking tight 🔥🔥

    • @nephosl5292
      @nephosl5292 Год назад +8

      Fuck yes! And thats what it takes for this kind of music / rythm patterns🤙

    • @Yourbankaccount
      @Yourbankaccount Год назад +39

      ​@@nephosl5292except old school prog bands didn't use any backingtracks or live metronomes. Same applies for jazz & fusion musicians from any era

    • @arthurels5832
      @arthurels5832 11 месяцев назад +25

      @@Yourbankaccount yeah becuz current era of live music contains more than just the instruments on stage.

    • @mike_tkgchs
      @mike_tkgchs 10 месяцев назад +32

      @@Yourbankaccount gotta take into account that nowadasys they have programmed light shows going on and all kinds of extras, so a metronome and a fixed schedule is pretty much something needed - different eras, my boy

    • @jmaddox84
      @jmaddox84 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@mike_tkgchsit’s still dumbing down the music. The tech is more advanced so now we need handicaps to handle it.

  • @JonSudano
    @JonSudano Год назад +271

    Based kick enjoyer

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 Год назад +190

    Love this video. Thanks for this POV I’ve always wondered this!

  • @mississippisnowplow
    @mississippisnowplow 10 месяцев назад +12

    As a bass player all I ever put in my ears was my bass, kick and snare, and guitar and vocals at a low volume.

  • @ZackaryWade-zr3kk
    @ZackaryWade-zr3kk Год назад +74

    I just started to have this sorta tech with my band and it's amazing lol. Being able to hear everyone at different levels on stage Is amazing. You guys sound amazing by the way!

    • @WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo
      @WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo 9 месяцев назад +3

      I can't even imagine that my rock n roll days are behind me in the 90s but the thought of having a click track is insane 😂 I wouldn't even wear earplugs lol

  • @tomamas14
    @tomamas14 7 месяцев назад +13

    Thats top teir, without earpieces you sometimes cant even hear yourself playing guitar lol

  • @chris3884
    @chris3884 Год назад +129

    While She Sleeps

  • @user-me5fh3yu1j
    @user-me5fh3yu1j 10 месяцев назад +297

    You know the drummer is good because you can’t hear the click once they come in.

    • @grant1133
      @grant1133 9 месяцев назад +26

      If they were world class, they wouldn't use a click at all.
      It's all preference though. I think a performance has a better live feel when its not so rigidly performed to a click

    • @TieMan114
      @TieMan114 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@grant1133well since they use backing tracks and MIDI automation for live preset changes and so on they need to keep everything in time

    • @ksrhys-
      @ksrhys- 9 месяцев назад +36

      ​@grant1133 depends on the band and genre really. Metal like this makes sense to a click. I'd never wanna see most hard rock bands to a click, though.

    • @KasperViggoJensen
      @KasperViggoJensen 9 месяцев назад +1

      That might not even be the drummer he’s hearing…

    • @TieMan114
      @TieMan114 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@KasperViggoJensenyou can still hear the dynamics in the drums and the sound is exactly what you'd expect in a concert mix so I don't think so, besides the kick which is obviously triggered

  • @marodelomusic
    @marodelomusic 9 месяцев назад +5

    This is only if you play to a click and are playing super intricate parts. Super awesome to see that you guys are under such diligence, though, shows dedication to your performance!

  • @Its_Noonan
    @Its_Noonan 7 месяцев назад +41

    So many people hating for absolutely no reason lol. So what if this particular person wants to perform their absolute best with a click. The fans deserve it with the price of tickets these days.

    • @castorkat4868
      @castorkat4868 7 месяцев назад +5

      your drummer sets the tempo live. click is so sterile

    • @billweir1745
      @billweir1745 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@castorkat4868 You realize the click is also used for light cues so they are synchronized with the music, right? When you are playing you don't even notice that it's there. It just sounds like another percussion instrument.

    • @castorkat4868
      @castorkat4868 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@billweir1745If obviously for the band to keep time

    • @ThundersMcCoy
      @ThundersMcCoy 6 месяцев назад

      When they play to a click they're also playing to backing tracks and in a LOT of cases not even using real amplifiers for what they are playing live. To me that isn't a "live" show. The fans don't "deserve" to get ripped off.

    • @billweir1745
      @billweir1745 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ThundersMcCoy If you are going to ANY show aside from maybe a small club show with an unknown band, pretty much all of those bands are using some kind of backing track, and almost all of them are using a click as well. Why does it matter if you're using a real amp? It's all the same thing: sound information going through a copper wire into transistors and capacitors to amplify the sound through a louder speaker to reach a larger audience. It's especially harder for smaller bands to tour with all that equipment, so why not lighten the load and get essentially the same sound?

  • @JsCharizard1
    @JsCharizard1 7 месяцев назад +14

    While she Sleeps(artist) - I’ve seen it all(song)

  • @CaptGizmo01
    @CaptGizmo01 7 месяцев назад +2

    The best is to have them to pump the full mix of what the audience hears into the inner ears...that way you know what you really sound like. I never understand why everyone just wants to hear themselves. You already know how you sound from years of playing in your bedroom.

    • @cliffschannel2521
      @cliffschannel2521 5 месяцев назад

      You obviously haven't been on a loud stage . Regardless of what you might "Think" you sound like it is imperative to actually hear yourself . If you had the full mix in your ears you would hate it as a performer, and you would likely suck.Now as a frontman on guitar and lead vox in a club band who is running FOH from stage from a tablet on my stand as well as a separate stand mounted phone for my ears i can say I do flip between a FOH mix and my personal mix occasionally just to check FOH . I hate having to manage so much but Im the only one capable .

    • @CaptGizmo01
      @CaptGizmo01 5 месяцев назад

      @@cliffschannel2521 Everyone wants to hear what they want to hear, that is why everyone on the stage has their own monitor be it on stage or inner ear. some want to hear themselves while some want to hear the band mix at lower level than themselves, etc...

    • @cliffschannel2521
      @cliffschannel2521 5 месяцев назад

      @@CaptGizmo01 Fair enough . Iv been fronting bands for about 40 yrs . With the advent of modelers and e drums and quiet stages I can understand your claim . Iv worked with and myself had full mixes in my ears or wedges . I currently have the full mix AND a personal mix I switch between because I also run the board but my personal mix has mostly me (guitar and vox) with little else , as the stage is plenty loud and I dont need any one else mucking my ears . This is pretty much how most Iv worked with roll . Noobs always want a full mix but realize very quickly it just aint happening If they really want to hear themselves . With IEM's thats the beauty of them . Getting isolated from the clutter , but you be you if it works for you .

  • @5yearsout
    @5yearsout 5 месяцев назад +3

    I remember hearing Edge's in-ear feed from a U2 show years ago, crazy all the cues and such they get.

  • @mrjosh92100
    @mrjosh92100 7 месяцев назад +3

    Chris Slade once said in an interview that he had a small strobe light that would flash the correct tempo for each song at the start just to get them going and then went by feel from there.

  • @jimszikk775
    @jimszikk775 10 месяцев назад +15

    O Man it's different from when I used to play live with a whole band. It was like a thunderstorm back then. Probably I would have started using in ears later on to save my ears and I was early on with wireless mic.

  • @Boogra
    @Boogra 6 месяцев назад

    I got to stand closer than that to Sean in Nashville at The End. It was amazing to watch the Master at work. Great footage, man.

  • @kevinbate4255
    @kevinbate4255 10 месяцев назад +68

    Depends on what kind of music you're playing.
    You ain't going to hear no jazz or blues musicians doing that.
    This overly technical sounding metal for sure you wouldn't want to do it with out.
    A lot of pop music needs it.
    More organic sounding bands that modulate tempos for feel and dynamics don't. Eg QOTSA. Mastodon.
    Foo fighters probably not.
    With backing tracks it really helps.
    However Rush a band that used a lot of samples and intermittent backing tracks ,did not use click tracks. And pulled it off amazingly.

    • @jamesduescher3462
      @jamesduescher3462 9 месяцев назад +9

      I would hate this personally. For better or worse I play off the drummer

    • @zerosoma33
      @zerosoma33 9 месяцев назад +3

      Rush was amazing yep. These guys not so much

    • @slaughtered777
      @slaughtered777 9 месяцев назад

      @@jamesduescher3462 Yeah, you could tweak it to your preference, and if I was to play around with in-ears I'd want more of the drummer and maybe a faaaint click-track at the back... this level sounds too distracting to me as well haha.

    • @Ahilliard44
      @Ahilliard44 8 месяцев назад +7

      click is only needed in completely structured music, aka this modernized poppy metal. In tempo changes i would prefer it to be free hand on the drummers time as it has a more natural feel imo. It's really a personal preference type of thing i just prefer the freedom. The click can feel like a prison at times and some songs just feel like they should naturally speed or slow. Stuff like that is highly dependent on the skillset of the musicians. Bands like Dire Straits were really good at stuff like this but they lend themselves to a more bluesy background

    • @Southboundpachyderm
      @Southboundpachyderm 8 месяцев назад +2

      most bands these days are using a click tracks. Because people are conditioned to hearing music be so clean and on time now, you stand out like a sore fuckin thumb if you're the one band not playing to a click or some kind of timed queing system. Rush was also a massive band with a massive crew. The reason a lot of music is on the laptop now is because it's not the days of the boomers who could hire 20 guys and play stadiums despite being someone like lars ulrich who wouldn't even be able to get in the door these days. It wasn't harder back then. It was way easier. You can't just be a guitarist or a vocalist anymore. You have to know how to do all of this stuff, and do a ton of your own audio work to make it in todays music business. The older guys don't play to clicks and there's a magic behind that too for sure so I don't wanna seem like I'm knocking it, because it's it's whole own skillset that I believe is equally important to master as it is to master playing to the click. Drummers have been playing to clicks for decades and decades though, and you'd be hard pressed to find a drummer in the last 60 years outside of the few virtuosos like Danny Carey who are so internally on time that the metronome messes them up. But that's a rare talent to have, and not as important as being able to play to a click and count time as you play.

  • @myskeshiayoung6967
    @myskeshiayoung6967 7 месяцев назад +11

    Now I know why rock bands are always head banging - they're keeping time!! I always thought they were just roocking out!

    • @lucobruco1180
      @lucobruco1180 6 месяцев назад +1

      That's actually a nice display of how sad it is to play with a metronome constantly in your head and a voice that tells you when to come in

  • @johnhexxaras1131
    @johnhexxaras1131 4 месяца назад

    When the metronome becomes a part of the beat itself , amazing

  • @jerryhorton5708
    @jerryhorton5708 7 месяцев назад +3

    Click tracks are only vaguely annoying once you figure out how much better you play with them

  • @devinnotschmevin
    @devinnotschmevin 6 месяцев назад +2

    Band: While She Sleeps
    Song: I've Seen It All
    Dope guitar riffs

  • @heritagelegacy
    @heritagelegacy 10 месяцев назад +15

    Click tracks and verbal ques are the answer to sounding really tight and professional on stage.

    • @Wickdawg8913
      @Wickdawg8913 10 месяцев назад +4

      Very true. They can definitely help a decent band sound super tight. Some of the best bands can be tight without it, but don't try to be a hero. They are very available tools that aren't very expensive anymore. Use the hell out of them.

  • @ericvandruten
    @ericvandruten 7 месяцев назад +1

    as a musician: SOME bands use a click track. It's a lot of work to set up an entire show on a laptop, and an In-ear monitoring setup is required.

  • @johndrews206
    @johndrews206 Год назад +382

    That is a phat kick drum

    • @SouthJerseyMatt
      @SouthJerseyMatt 11 месяцев назад +12

      Thank lars

    • @Digity.
      @Digity. 10 месяцев назад +3

      😂​@@SouthJerseyMatt

    • @jimszikk775
      @jimszikk775 10 месяцев назад +1

      Fat? It's thin as cardboard, hope you're ironic.

    • @prodigalbrock
      @prodigalbrock 10 месяцев назад +15

      Triggers will do that

    • @AmanDubey1861
      @AmanDubey1861 10 месяцев назад +46

      It’s quite shit kick actually

  • @justindupuis4383
    @justindupuis4383 5 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting to have the kick so high in your mix

  • @charliepreidis3004
    @charliepreidis3004 7 месяцев назад +5

    Is this While She Sleeps? Never listened to them but saw them with Architects last week and they were amazing live

  • @NickP333
    @NickP333 4 месяца назад

    Fantastic video. This is precisely why I could never do in ears. I tried plenty, but it just removed me from being in the moment. I fully understand it’s a great technology for some, and the benefits of them, but I know I’m not alone. I’ve spoken to some successful musicians who love em, and how I needed to get used to them, and some who happen to agree with me. I 100% can see both sides.

  • @frederickfiliph3798
    @frederickfiliph3798 10 месяцев назад +6

    Dang, that riff is so 🔥

  • @bungalowfeuhler1541
    @bungalowfeuhler1541 4 месяца назад

    I love music tech today. Especially the improvements to live performances. A concert back in the day was hit or miss. Lots of times, it would sound awful, blow out your eardrums, or half the gear would fail. Now, it’s easy to recreate the sound of the album, but in a live performance. That’s been the dream for decades. But you couldn’t hope to achieve it without paying a whole team of audio phd’s and giving them HOURS to do sound test. Even then, you could guarantee several things would go wrong. Smashing guitars didn’t start as a way to look cool. It was just a great way to let your roadies know that the show is over and they should get ready to listen to the talent scream for the next few hours.

  • @micosanchez9382
    @micosanchez9382 10 месяцев назад +6

    The guitar tone 🔥

  • @Mememememe9512
    @Mememememe9512 7 месяцев назад +5

    That would drive me insane

  • @johnsurento7934
    @johnsurento7934 5 месяцев назад

    I only played to a click for two one week gigs, to be in sync with backing pre-recorded keyboards, and that was just me with headphones on drums. The rest of the band followed me. Monitor mixes are up to the individual. I had the bass, the lead, and the vocals.

  • @karterestill
    @karterestill 10 месяцев назад +20

    A couple things I find funny in the comments:
    1. "Real musicians don't use a click live." WHAT😂 Dude this IS THE WAY. You couldn't pay me to not have it. Everything is tight, timed and no slips. It's perfect. It also helps with automation. Most bands if not the majority use a click live. Not everyone would want it in the ears but I can assure the drummer is using it at the minimum.
    2. Just because they have IEMs doesn't mean they use tracks or a click. Stage wedges suck. Not having an individual mix sucks. Most of these bands also have room mic so they can bleed in crowd and stage sound to make it feel less disconnected. What you're hearing is someone's individual preference. My mix would be 100% different than this, guys.
    3. Knocking something that makes you better live is also a bad take. Once you go to IEMs and if you decide to use a click, you won't ever go back. I promise you that. At the minimum just do the IEMs your ears will thank you!

    • @Boristhaspydr
      @Boristhaspydr 10 месяцев назад +4

      Let me just not be able to hear myself and give myself further hearing damage lol, having a click makes a huge difference

    • @karterestill
      @karterestill 10 месяцев назад

      @Boristhaspydr right? "I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING TURN ME UP" Next thing you know you've just ruined the onstage mix. Yeah Wedges should die. You get used to volume on stage, and I can tell you.. coming home and feeling like you just listened to music in headphones for a few hours beats them ringing the next 3 days.

    • @niffingig5143
      @niffingig5143 10 месяцев назад

      I've only used a click live two times, both being session gigs. One was with a band that used samples during and to start off songs. The other was with a band that had 2 guitarists, bass, keyboards, lead, and backing vocals. A click was a must.
      I've always had really solid timing (I have a ton of live experience), so the band I've played with never felt the need for a click. But, at the end of 2021, for the first time in 26 years, I was without a band. I spent 2 years playing alone (getting way better) while using a click. I joined a band 2 months ago, and I will be using a click live from now on. I'm so used to it, and the band is used to playing along to programmed drums, so it works out perfectly.

    • @Bevtone
      @Bevtone 10 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't say majority of bands but for shows of this scale it would be a necessity surly

    • @lanehillard1596
      @lanehillard1596 7 месяцев назад

      I disagree. I've gigged with and without a click and shows without a click always felt better. And you couldn't pay me to wear IEM's again, utterly ruined my experience on stage.

  • @seanbertrand5289
    @seanbertrand5289 4 месяца назад +2

    As someone that’s played a lot of shows… this isn’t what I ever heard.

  • @ubernate860
    @ubernate860 Год назад +14

    Love these videos

  • @shouzo
    @shouzo 7 месяцев назад

    While she sleeps for the win...amazing, definitely a completely different experience then being with the crowd

  • @TomWatkeys
    @TomWatkeys 8 месяцев назад +22

    To everyone saying "i could never play with that metronome sound"
    1. This doesn't HAVE to be used for every song. It's a tool that is appropriate sometimes and not others. Like a loop pedal.
    2. Being a good musician means you can play your instrument, being a professional means you can handle the show requirements. It's like being a sportsman, you can play the sport, but if you can't follow a coach and adapt to their instructions, you can't be a professional sportsman.
    3. There is a level of musicianship required to play live to a click, as there is a level required to improvise, compose or to be able to read score. Deciding not to hone all of those skills is only going to limit your skill level

    • @owenjnelson-fb9mg
      @owenjnelson-fb9mg 8 месяцев назад +2

      Nobody in the sixties or seventies was using metronomes live…and no one has surpassed those bands ever. This is the death of music. Replace these people with robots.

    • @TomWatkeys
      @TomWatkeys 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@owenjnelson-fb9mg "no one has surpassed those bands ever" - ok boomer

    • @danpetersonmusic
      @danpetersonmusic 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@owenjnelson-fb9mglol yes well invariably someone always makes this comparison but it isn’t based on much of anything other than your opinion. One hour spent watching live concerts from the 60s 70s and 80s will indeed show some great performance and ALSO some really REALLY poor ones. The simple fact is bands back then didn’t use in-ears (with all that entails) because the technology didn’t exist…not out of some altruistic desire for purity. As for your claim that no one has surpassed those bands ever I will simply say in the things that can be measured (ticket and album sales) Taylor Swift alone has surpassed quite nearly every band ever and I assure you her band has a click in their ears…because that’s what pros do in these days of a multimedia live music experience.

    • @bigbradsk
      @bigbradsk 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@owenjnelson-fb9mgliterally Keith Moon would play to a click live. Bands have been doing this for decades

    • @owenjnelson-fb9mg
      @owenjnelson-fb9mg 7 месяцев назад

      @@bigbradsk your use of the word literally means I’m not reading ANYTHING you ever say…..

  • @JUSTNEWi
    @JUSTNEWi 8 месяцев назад +1

    thank you for sharing our pain ❤

  • @nine9cent929
    @nine9cent929 9 месяцев назад +5

    Kulusevski shredding during the international break lol 🐓🏐

  • @DMDvideo10
    @DMDvideo10 2 месяца назад

    I personally like to hear what the audience hears.

  • @ANDREWHALL28
    @ANDREWHALL28 7 месяцев назад +3

    The metronome would drive me nuts 😳

    • @mrc25381
      @mrc25381 5 месяцев назад +2

      Then don’t use one. Obviously this guy wants it.

  • @JayEdom
    @JayEdom 10 месяцев назад +1

    Not in a bar though lol only big festivals or big stage shows i played a place where they had no monitors and it’s not easy to hear yourself sometimes so you just hope for the best

  • @benjamin.kelley
    @benjamin.kelley 10 месяцев назад +5

    As a church drummer, I've always wondered if more expensive setups sound better in ears with a real audio engineer mixing the mix, and if musicians can hear effects in stereo, ir if we're just all doomed to crappy mono in ear mixes 🤔

    • @seanc2550
      @seanc2550 9 месяцев назад +1

      Midas DP48. It will blow your mind the difference. Ability to pan vocals to different ears to mimic stage placement. The reverbs built in to it sound amazing. I was skeptical but it totally changed my perspective on in ear possibilities

  • @wolfietheninja2016
    @wolfietheninja2016 4 месяца назад

    Can vouch for the individual preferences in the monitors.
    I was the only one with the click in my band during live performances.

  • @allentastic
    @allentastic 9 месяцев назад +10

    Most of my favorite bands (HxC bands mostly) don't play to a click so that the performance can breathe. Bands that play to a click are usually pretty sterile. I don't mean that as an insult, but it's my experience that a performance can be so much bigger w/o a click. I'm also fully aware that that starts to fall apart when you play bigger venues with more elaborate setups, but as far as I know, The Dillinger Escape Plan went their entire career without playing to a click and they played a ton of huge festivals and stuff

  • @tackanderson4270
    @tackanderson4270 5 месяцев назад

    Been a session and tour gun for over 40 years and the metro is just a part of whatever mix you want. As a drummer I just wanted the bass in front with light rhythm guitar and vocals to the right away from the snare depending on the score. each to their own on this....

  • @zenswrd7815
    @zenswrd7815 7 месяцев назад +27

    Listening to that "bass drum" would drive me nuts!

    • @edima
      @edima 7 месяцев назад

      i agree, i would rather just have the metronome only. hearing my drummer's triggers would get to me.

    • @ttw-MoTorious
      @ttw-MoTorious 7 месяцев назад +2

      Naaah, the drums are the best part ❤

    • @diolade2002
      @diolade2002 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I'm wearing ear buds and it's literally killing me.

    • @thatsmynamesowhat2949
      @thatsmynamesowhat2949 7 месяцев назад +1

      I can’t believe that bass drum sounds so freaking small and crappy. I play at church the kick in my ear sounds ten times better than this and surely we okay through less expensive gear.

    • @Chugg.Norris
      @Chugg.Norris 7 месяцев назад +2

      I don't use in ears. Don't use metronome. Stay in time and hear just fine. These little bands think they are metallica in arena or some shit. 😂

  • @nickbruce6859
    @nickbruce6859 7 месяцев назад +2

    Using a pedal with your left foot? Monster.

  • @JJay-m1x
    @JJay-m1x 9 месяцев назад +16

    what most people here don't get is that a: with backing tracks u gotta be on point. there's no room for mistakes. b: click is essential for this and c: for all the "u don't feel music this way" u definitely do because u hear exactly what you wanna hear. as a guitarist i don't need loud stages or cymbals crushing my ears. what he has is the perfect mix for me. kick, snare, click, own guitar snd the rest embedded. and with that you can feel what you want to feel. when i do monitors as a engineer 80% of the time in ear mixes for guitar players will end up like this as per request. foh is a different story. there u wanna hear everything except the click ofc.
    good to see what wss has become. in remember doing monitors at a festival for them way back in 2012 in europe when they where a small band

    • @zerosoma33
      @zerosoma33 9 месяцев назад +7

      Dont use backing tracks. Simple as that. Be a real fucking band.

    • @teleblisters
      @teleblisters 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@zerosoma33 kind of not possible when you're a band like invent animate that uses multiple layers of synths and pads to construct the backing soundscape for their songs

    • @hektixkitzo
      @hektixkitzo 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@teleblisters aka 'special effects', not saying bands like this aren't talented, but 'rock/heavy' bands should never have to rely on computers to be able to play their show, as long as the instruments and rigs are working, you should be able to go out there crush it, that's why live music today has allowed what was onced looked down upon, creep into their shows.

    • @SS_Psyops
      @SS_Psyops 8 месяцев назад

      I just use synths…… have always, we’ve played some really complex polys too. I tap chords in one time and play lead with the other, never did this. I would hate the rigidity. I also enjoy the experience of pulling it all off though and usually am responsible for the synths and a hell of a lot else.

    • @robin_miller_music
      @robin_miller_music 7 месяцев назад +1

      For the people hating on backing tracks, what's your problem? If this band (I have no idea who they are) choose to use them as part of their sound then that's their choice! Nowt to do with you. If you don't like it don't listen. Simple.
      For me, I agree with @iM3rLiNi. I've played with, and mixed for, too many people who want everything in their ears because they want it to sound like they're in the crowd. That's not their job, in this context. Their job is to play music for the enjoyment of *other* people. If they get to rock-out them themselves then that's an added bonus.

  • @cedriccruz3932
    @cedriccruz3932 5 месяцев назад

    sean always kills it on the guitar

  • @shep9371
    @shep9371 7 месяцев назад +19

    people are out of touch in this comment section. clicks and backing tracks are just apart of live sound now especially with metal and prog where your whole band has to play some weird rhythm pattern starting on the e of 2 and if you don’t come in at the same time it sounds like horse shit.

    • @Trahzy
      @Trahzy 7 месяцев назад +3

      Atheist and Cynic were playing way more technical prog parts than most new bands in the late 80s, just drums lmao.

    • @filipeventura2729
      @filipeventura2729 6 месяцев назад

      gentle giant?

    • @ThundersMcCoy
      @ThundersMcCoy 6 месяцев назад

      Not out of touch...we just prefer bands that actually play 100% live though real amps.

    • @shep9371
      @shep9371 6 месяцев назад

      @@ThundersMcCoy i mean as a bassist of course i’m gonna be hyped when a band has some fat cabs on stage but if it sounds the same, makes foh happy, and you can fit it in your guitar case why not use a line 6 or fractal.

    • @ThundersMcCoy
      @ThundersMcCoy 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@shep9371 I'm a bass player as well & without an amp where you can actually feel the bass, I feel neutered. For years I gigged with a 1,000 watt SVT from the 70's through an acoustic bottom (also 70's era) with JBL silver cones. it used to rattle the pictures off the walls in my parents house. playing with in-ears to me feels the same as when you play without an amp.

  • @williamtaylor8701
    @williamtaylor8701 7 месяцев назад

    While She Sleeps puts on such great shows! Looking forward to their 2025 US Tour!

  • @ryanwatts7817
    @ryanwatts7817 Год назад +41

    This actually answered a question I've hade for a while

    • @e.d.1642
      @e.d.1642 9 месяцев назад

      There's no metronome heard on stage for most concerts

    • @ryanwatts7817
      @ryanwatts7817 9 месяцев назад

      @e.d.1642 oh I knew that would be an in ear click track

  • @ThePistpet
    @ThePistpet 9 месяцев назад +1

    All these years and I never realised they used metronomes in live performances

    • @minnesotajack1
      @minnesotajack1 9 месяцев назад +2

      Not all bands do. Often metronomes are used to play along with a backing track…so the metronome isn’t to keep the players together it’s to keep the people in time with the machines.
      There’s video of Kiss getting off tempo on their backing tracks and it sounds terrible.
      I see it as cheating, in a way.

  • @MrLYPH
    @MrLYPH 10 месяцев назад +8

    Ever wondered what this exact musician hears on stage
    FTFY

  • @jessicagarcia7558
    @jessicagarcia7558 5 месяцев назад

    in there in ears monitors. That's the drummers inears . In his mix he has the trigger kick drum , and tempo track and guitar . Very awesome!

  • @eightfifty2309
    @eightfifty2309 10 месяцев назад +5

    What song is that they're playing? Just found out about this band through this vid and also your channel! Just subbed to your channel of course!

    • @vegito9532
      @vegito9532 10 месяцев назад +4

      While she sleeps - I have seen it all

    • @Madmike772
      @Madmike772 8 месяцев назад

      Just became a fan myself! Music with soul

  • @edt.5118
    @edt.5118 3 месяца назад

    I tell people who say they hate the metronome click, play the note on the click snd you won't hear the metronome click.

  • @Ghostbc10
    @Ghostbc10 Год назад +31

    Do the people talk to each other in the headset thing

    • @JBJ527
      @JBJ527 Год назад +10

      Yeah they do!

    • @kennethnashe5461
      @kennethnashe5461 Год назад +4

      Yes. I'm a drummer and music director. I have to talk to my team all the time

    • @MatheusDiCredico
      @MatheusDiCredico Год назад +2

      @@kennethnashe5461 Hey. I'm a guitarrist in a band with two guitars. How should I separate them? I can't hear myself properly in the in ear mix.

    • @kennethnashe5461
      @kennethnashe5461 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@MrBinga09 there's different ways. 1. Realize that you don't need to hear every single instrument in the band. As an MD I need to hear everyone. As just a drummer i need click above all else. Second loudest is bass. Third is vocals. 4th keys. Everything else is low in the mix or completely absent. Don't have more in your ears than what you actually need to do your job well. If you have the ability pan your instruments according to where you're standing on stage.

    • @mike_tkgchs
      @mike_tkgchs 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@kennethnashe5461 "hey SOUNDGUY i need everything in my monitor! but especially kick and bass and guitar" [soundguy facepalms]

  • @LesFarrington
    @LesFarrington 8 месяцев назад

    Oh how I remember that isolation of in-ear mixes and that damn click. I missed hearing the audience and the room…..but doing modern shows requires such sacrifices. Being signed to a major label is heaven/hell.

  • @lxw6657
    @lxw6657 7 месяцев назад

    what being a producer sounds like

  • @HaharuRecords
    @HaharuRecords Год назад +6

    I think they also hear Aliens from other planets on stage..

  • @YoBroMan
    @YoBroMan 7 месяцев назад +2

    This is in the ear monitors, not coming out of the stage monitors.

  • @bobsmith3291
    @bobsmith3291 6 месяцев назад +5

    It’s so claustrophobic having those ear monitors In

  • @catchofthedave8681
    @catchofthedave8681 4 месяца назад

    Not always, but usually. Some bands dont play to click counts….. brian jonestown massacre for instance, saw them live and they restarted songs, played songs on the fly, it was cool to see since most every band has modernized and plays to click or bscking tracks. Most huge stadium bands have to, it saves time, makes show more polished, etc. but its fun to watch smaller bands play old school too.

  • @madmattdrummer5487
    @madmattdrummer5487 8 месяцев назад +23

    That click constantly going off would drive me crazy

    • @DamageInc86
      @DamageInc86 8 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah it's annoying enough during recording. Fuck, I can't imagine hearing that all night on stage.

    • @SS_Psyops
      @SS_Psyops 8 месяцев назад +3

      There’s no way in hell I’d tour with a click lol. It’s bad enough just having to play the same material night after night I can’t imagine that too. It would be hell. Honestly would contribute to me hating the experience of being a working musician.

    • @madmattdrummer5487
      @madmattdrummer5487 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@SS_Psyopsit would get so boring so fast

    • @livem18
      @livem18 8 месяцев назад +1

      Ive played in several bands in the past as a guitar player . Ive always been lucky to play with musicians who are way better than i am.
      One thing ive learned from them especially drummers and bass players is that timing and feel are super important especially when playing in a band or with other musicians. With that said , ive nevered played with a drummer that uses a click live . That would distract me and everyone else in the band.

  • @nedim_guitar
    @nedim_guitar 10 месяцев назад +1

    Depends on the musician or band. Some play music that's easier to play tight without a click track.

  • @MaestroRaro
    @MaestroRaro 10 месяцев назад +15

    Ever wondered that there are many types of music and quite many of them never use something like click?

    • @mike_tkgchs
      @mike_tkgchs 10 месяцев назад +5

      different styles... here they also have programmed lightshows and things like that, needs to be taken into consideration

    • @MaestroRaro
      @MaestroRaro 10 месяцев назад +8

      Yes, but just strange title "what musicians hear". Most musicians hear each other and music, not the click

    • @dave7922
      @dave7922 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@MaestroRaroin-ears my guy.
      Lower tech shows use monitors.
      House audio and monitor/in-ear audio is mixed and leveled differently + a click and queues

    • @hectorgrande8000
      @hectorgrande8000 10 месяцев назад +6

      I’m still old school I never liked click tracks on stage that’s why you have a drummer in the first place if you drummer can’t keep good time he or she probably shouldn’t be a drummer. But to each their own

    • @mike_tkgchs
      @mike_tkgchs 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@hectorgrande8000 ​@hectorgrande8000 thing is that its not just the drummer, they have only-guitar and vocal breaks with coordinated pre-planned automated light shows so they would need a click to hit the right spots together with the lights for the overall show

  • @youknoweverything7643
    @youknoweverything7643 7 месяцев назад

    In my in ear monitor my mix is a click track for each song it's a different tempo drums bass and singer sometimes depends on song. And I play lead guitar in a pretty popular 80s tribute hairband and rock cover tribute band so much fun aswell

  • @MichaelgoestoBitburg
    @MichaelgoestoBitburg 9 месяцев назад +6

    I feel like constant click might get annoying after a while. I typically play off the drummer or whatever is keeping consistent rhythm an tempo.

  • @bigchonk
    @bigchonk 6 месяцев назад

    I personally don't like the sound of the kick trigger, but it sure as hell beats nothing like when they put it through stage monitors.

  • @hostnik777
    @hostnik777 10 месяцев назад +20

    Great way to advertise your band. Never heard of you and don’t care, but I love how you’re connecting with your fans by showing them what it takes to rock them.

    • @flowprecisionwashing
      @flowprecisionwashing 9 месяцев назад +14

      dude why'd you have to add the don't care lol

    • @hostnik777
      @hostnik777 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@flowprecisionwashing same reason you had to focus on the negative and comment on it

    • @gayealisir5661
      @gayealisir5661 9 месяцев назад +5

      Cuz not giving a sh-- is apparently really cool with youngsters these days. @@flowprecisionwashing

  • @scottperson4819
    @scottperson4819 5 месяцев назад +1

    Unless you’re Tool, they don’t use click tracks in studio or on stage. They set their own tempo and fuck with it live purposely some times

  • @Liverpool-axeman
    @Liverpool-axeman 8 месяцев назад +20

    That’s the modern way to do it. It’s not the only way 😂

  • @SvenBout
    @SvenBout 6 месяцев назад

    This would drive me absolutely crazy.

  • @briangrant9942
    @briangrant9942 7 месяцев назад +4

    what band is this?

    • @Ayrt_0n
      @Ayrt_0n 7 месяцев назад

      I need to know too

    • @Filthysvk
      @Filthysvk 7 месяцев назад +4

      While she sleeps

    • @Filthysvk
      @Filthysvk 7 месяцев назад +2

      And song is called - I've seen it all

  • @DennyBob521
    @DennyBob521 8 месяцев назад

    Pretty much - we all mix different, I tend to keep the click low and the drums higher, pan and fade the vocals forward to their specific sides of the stage, put my guitar in the center. I’ve set my IEMs up very 3D, so each musician is in my ears where they are in real life.

  • @troysmithfr
    @troysmithfr 7 месяцев назад +9

    People salty because they don't have to worry about large venues where cranking speakers isn't enough and damages hearing overtime

  • @polcat79
    @polcat79 5 месяцев назад

    I've heard artists talk about click tracks but this is the first time im hearing the real deal

  • @throughkenslens7972
    @throughkenslens7972 10 месяцев назад +31

    So that explains why Hendrix was so good!

    • @gaye_alisir
      @gaye_alisir 10 месяцев назад +11

      Haha i see what you did there.

    • @thesandman775
      @thesandman775 10 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @jesterjigs9914
      @jesterjigs9914 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah new music n munitions are lame..rock should be eaw

    • @greyowlmason1515
      @greyowlmason1515 10 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

    • @greyowlmason1515
      @greyowlmason1515 10 месяцев назад +2

      This polished metal shit don't do it

  • @IssaBambi
    @IssaBambi 9 месяцев назад +1

    The “ooooouuuuuu” that left my body when the shred started 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

  • @questionyourbelief7828
    @questionyourbelief7828 Год назад +3

    What band is this? Love their music

    • @billghli
      @billghli Год назад +2

      While She Sleeps - I've Seen It All

  • @P37_28
    @P37_28 6 месяцев назад

    Holy crap. That's freaking tight.

  • @Mrmustard1380
    @Mrmustard1380 5 месяцев назад +4

    If that is the music I heard on while on stage, I would quit being a musician.

  • @arthurtoribio420
    @arthurtoribio420 8 месяцев назад +1

    One of their best songs .

    • @kaste5511
      @kaste5511 8 месяцев назад

      bro what song is first one

    • @KadenLewis-en2xs
      @KadenLewis-en2xs 6 месяцев назад

      What is there band name and song

  • @niffingig5143
    @niffingig5143 10 месяцев назад +5

    To the people saying real musicians don't need click tracks live... You've, (A), either played with the same people for a long time in little clubs. (B), you have no experience on a large stage/ large venue. Or (C), you are a complete amateur and have little to no experience, but you think you do.
    If you're on a smaller stage, like clubs with a capacity of 400 to 800, you can hear each other decently through the monitors. If you have been playing with the same people for a while, you can sound as tight as a band using a click track.
    Also, people saying real musicians don't need click tracks have ZERO experience on a big stage/at a big venue. Monitors will not be enough to cover the size of the stage and cut through all the noise. On big stages, sometimes you get a echo effect. It makes it impossible to play in time with your band.
    A REAL musician will not set foot on a big stage without a click track.
    Stop commenting your opinions that you formed while being ignorant on the matter.

  • @EveyoneCallsMeTheDude
    @EveyoneCallsMeTheDude 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have yet to use a click track but hope to be a big enough musician one day to use them

    • @unk4140
      @unk4140 5 месяцев назад

      lol I feel ya