To Troy's credit, this is the first time I've heard an explanation on what an internship is and how it works without thinking of it as modern slavery in any way.
Yeah, just sucks when companies ignore those regulations, benefit from them without paying them, and the intern doesn't have any real ability to report it since it could sabotage their career in that industry. Suddenly the few contacts you have don't trust you.
Ditto! Very interesting to hear this discussion and learn a bit. Plus, Doug playing greedy (humorous) corporate America and Troy stating the rules how it should be was entertaining 😄
I was an engineering intern with GE back when they still made things. For their cost (no benefits, no vacation, fixed wage) interns add more value than they cost even as college idiots. Just pay your interns (above minimum wage). Don't be evil Doug.
Engineering Interns almost always get paid though. Where I work we routinely have a maxed out intern room to do the most menial mundane tasks that frankly I don't want to do. When I was an intern I was hired to do a task they thought would take all summer and I had it done in like 2.5 weeks. So then I spent the rest of the summer fucking around and doing all kinds of nonsense, it was both shitty and awesome. But they tried to retain me after the summer was over, but I wanted to finish school.
I did an internship in industrial automation. It was paid, started at $17 and hour and got up to $22 by the time they offered me a full-time job. It was a great deal for them because they paid me far less than their full-time employees even though I was producing the same quality of work within six months. When they offered me a job they knew how good of a worker I was and I wouldn't even need on the job training. I think around 20% of their employees (at least in engineering) were once interns. If you do it right, it can be a huge benefit to both the intern and the company.
Remember that it costs money to get to work and live. Unpaid internships select for people who have savings and who don't need the job. If that's what you want, that's okay, but realize that you will be hiring for people who don't need the job and will be less likely to continue - they already need to be set to work for free. You should always pay your interns, because you want to hire them and you want them to be living because of their work instead of in spite of their work. Interns are a way to onboard someone into a company culture. Also, a lot of the time, they're managed separately. This means that they don't fall under the same overhead structure (they report to the intern manager), so you save cost there.
An example of an unpaid, beneficial internship: Bring in woodworking students. Give them scrap wood (mistakes close to completion) and off-cuts. Show them what the correct way to do things is. Have them work for a couple of weeks. The ones that show good work and fast learning, keep their names on file and make them an offer when they get out of school. It costs the company a little bit (paying someone to teach them) but you might find some real talent you can draw from later.
Doug, there is another option and that is the Skillbridge program via the Military. The Military pays the salary of veterans looking for a new career opportunity and you train them for their first year (Military pays them) and then you hopefully convert them to a full time employee.
I don't think Doug appreciates how much hiring someone can cost, and how much you can save if you've already got a talent pool of people you like you could just call instead. When hiring people you've got to consider advertising costs, or agency fees, then the staff caosts/labour of sorting through the applications, the cost of staff time taken away to do interviews etc. I work for an ATS (applicant tracking system) companies use to advertise their jobs, and manage applications, and clients absolutely love talent pools. Having a good talent pool solution can really sell some big contracts.
So you're saying that the guy who has hired many people to work at his company doesn't know about hiring? Since the company is successful, presumably his hiring strategy was good.
Every single wyrmlife video is just a constant reminder that I'm still waiting for my modular table to be sent. The countdown has been brutal! I've been so excited to finally get a quality table and these videos on my feed are a constant reminder I still have to wait! love what you guys do keep it up!
Also hes the type to grab anyone who isn't garbage and have someone teach them how to do things so no need to pick and choose between very experienced workers
@@Gramps935 Actually, we don't. Perhaps that was true in the past but the overwhelming majority of the people we bring on have no affiliation with Doug or any of the founders/owners. A good percent are friends of already existing associates.
I started an unpaid internship in college where I was just supposed to shadow people in theater production, but it turned into a paid internship when the sound guy skipped town and drove to Mexico and disappeared. Suddenly I became sound designer, put the music, sfx, and cues together, and ran it for its entire production (and got paid). It was pretty wild.
I was an unpaid intern once. All I did was studying tools, and technics and how the job and the company worked. I learned SO MUCH MORE than college ever came to teach me! In the end, they liked my technical skills and ended up hiring me, that was over 7 years ago and I'm sure I'm in a better professional path due to that internship.
My mom had a guy do landscaping work for her through a company. He was here completely at the whims of the company. She tried, and spent a bit of money, trying to get him out from under their thumb. They wouldn't even let him go home to be with his dad before he died. Completely fucked how this stuff works here.
Troy was excellent this episode. I really hope Doug was playing up the conversation for comedic effect, because otherwise some of his takes and opinions were REALLY poor.
Internships are FANTASTIC for a small business. 30 day unpaid internship. Each of your staff takes a little time to show the intern how their job is done. The end result is phenomenal. Our interns learned retail floor duties. Facility maintenance. Cash handling. Stock management and ordering. Warehousing. Retail admin. The staff got sharper and better at their jobs, the intern left with a lot of new skills, and a better understanding of our industry. Best of all, the intern becomes a very loyal - and outspoken - fan of our business… and we have a list of people who we know and who have already been partially trained. Everybody wins.
I wonder how it would pan out if it was an episode of worm(ling)life the intern could produce edit and release on their own personal channel, exposure for them, learning and practice of edit, upload, manage etc. Plus they could spend their time filming matt making wormlife... wormlife-ception baby!
I actually had a job at 14 (actually even earlier if you count me mowing lawns) in manufacturing. They brought me in and I operated a machine (high speed drill) that made something for a truck gearbox (cylindrical piece that drilled a cone in one end). Bring an unpaid intern in, make them sort wood and finished parts!
What sucks even more about internships is that you can do an internship or research in most universities. If you do research, then you won't get payed even if you are producing new results or a new thing that the professor will use going forward. Due to covid, no internships were available when I was getting my masters and I did research and created a new program that was my own fully and yet I didn't get payed at all some universities will pay you but they don't have to which is what sucks the most, and in my case I couldn't risk asking to bve payed. So insead I payed them to work for them 🙃I had to pay tuition to do research over the summer even though I was never even on campus and didn't use a single resource provided by the university
The Army has a program for Soldiers who are transitioning out of the military and back into civilian life. Each Soldier, pending commander approval, can do up to a six month internship with a company. The Soldier is still an government employee and is paid by the DoD so, the company gains a benefit by having a free labor pool, the Soldier benefits by gaining career specific training and a paycheck, and the military benefits by having people successfully transition and that is used as a recruiting aid.
There is an internship at my work, where my agency *WANTS* to pay the intern, but their school says that they are not allowed a paid internship, and they will lose credit if we do. We have no clue why the school has that policy and after watching this, I feel even more off about the school restricting the intern this way.
In Canada we had government assistance that would support the hiring of co-op or intern students by subsidizing their pay. It meant that you could come in as an intern/co-op student for a short period (3+ months usually), the company would be able to effectively pay less than minimum wage, but the intern would make above minimum wage due to the subsidy. I'm not sure if there are programs like that in the US, but it seemed like a very reasonable/effective way to encourage companies to help build up the young talent while still benefitting.
I don't know, but Doug gives of an energy that sounds like he is joking about stuff like the farm and copying their concept, yet at the same time there is this "but what if we DID?" vibe. Sometimes his takes are so outlandish that I am become uncertain about whether he is actually joking in such instances…
I wasn't an intern, per se, when I was in school. When I was in college, I was a co-op, and alternated work terms and school terms. I was paid for my 9-5 in the office every day, even though I was (in theory) learning how to be an accountant. But yeah, I was given all the grunt work.
My summer job was working in an ice house. Making and delivering bags/blocks of ice to convenience stores in the area. Spent most of my day inside a freezer while it was in the high 90s outside.
Interned one summer for $300/week. 4 of us total, constantly pitted against each other to work late for no pay. This is what you have to do to get a good job offer on graduation. Graduation happens. Firm hires 2 fresh ivy league graduates that never interned. Firm ghosts former interns.
I did an internship for a Fortune 500 and it was so awkward. The liability felt huge and the education was a brief overview but it was really cool to get an inside look at an operation and people you would never have met otherwise. Plus the boss took us all for Dim Sum which was a wild experience at 17.
I'm glad there are actually internship rules and laws now, even if they're not enough, back in the early 00s when I was freshly graduated from college, everything was internships. 40 hour a week internships... Insane. It's just slavery. All internships should be paid internships, at full wages.
Apprenticeships>internships Apprenticeships make skilled employees later. frontloading learning and low contributing employees and ending with high skilled employees.
Any internship I've seen has required needing to pursue an actual degree. Having been in a two year accelerated program it left no time for interning and put me in an SOL position once I graduated. Internships sound nice but trying to get into one for experience after graduation sucks.
I am about to do an unpaid automation engineer internship (Denmark btw). And I for sure think that the work I do could be of benefit to the company I'll be working at. The difference here, is that I am payed during my education from the state anyways.
Always pay your interns, and pay them well. Interns that convert into full time positions perform better and have higher retention than other employees. Yes, the primary focus is on teaching them, but this investments tends to earn itself back many times over.
Ohhhh that was an very clear explenation from Troy. I'm from the netherlands, and I do not think unpayed ineternship exists here. it's all payed, BUT! it's well (very far) below minimum wage. like 25% of minimum wage.. so plenty students who are doing an intern to learn their desired proffesion, also have a job to pay for everything else. it's fucked up.
“Can’t be whipping around on a forklift”… *looks over shoulder at driving tractors and bulldozers before I had a “Learner’s Permit” for a car…* Then again, that was the 70’s… We had lawn darts and other deadly “toys”.
Marketing intern forever ago. Was paid, as I provided value like cutting out and mailing marketing material, and even designing an ad for a magazine. 8$/hr baby 😂
I did an internship with 2 different ems agencies as part of paramedic school, definately "provided benefit" aka did patient care including medical interventions. Maybe its different for the public sector?
Actually @michael.frampton I lived in PA for seven years (Hershey - 4 years; Dubois - 3 years) and go down to our PA plant quarterly. Would be happy to meet you.
Knowing Doug's children rather well, you'd REALLY have to sit down and do a cost/benefit analysis to see if their unpaid labor would be a benefit or detriment to the company.
I wish instead of debating internships you’d make your website work. I’d love to order a set of chairs for the Prophecy. But I think you need a computer science degree to separate out the modular table content from the kickstarter content from the actual store where I can actually buy eight chairs for my table.
Why not both? In seriousness, our website needs work and is a work-in-progress. If you would like to order a set of chairs for your Prophecy, email us at concierge@wyrmwoodgaming.com, or start the process with a deposit on our website under the "Signature Series," (I know....It's not obvious or intuitive. Again, "work-in-progress.") wyrmwoodgaming.com/signature-series/
Welcome to another instance when teaching doesn't follow standard labor laws. I had to pay for my internship (aka Student Teaching). The mentor teacher got free classes through the college and time away from their students. I was definitely providing work for the "company".
Fun fact there are .. paying, not paid, interns at mega churches that pay to be a part of a school/internship and basically take classes and then work there .. without being paid
Internships for tech jobs are paid. Manufacturing jobs should be no different, they should be paid for labor. The unpaid internships as assistants in political offices are generally unpaid because the family that these kids come from are pretty wealthy to start with.
Doug could have his children work and the money that he pay them go to an education fund to pay for college or university. And since it would likely be below the minimum tax level they would not have to pay income tax.
Untrained internship = Only for the purpose of developing them, no benefit to the company. Well here's the thing. Unless you don't give them any worthy while tasks then they aren't actually developing. But if you do give them worth while tasks then you are benefiting the company... No matter how you explain it, an unpaid internship is bullshit and anyone who offers one is a shit bag not worth working for.
Doug came off really bad in this episode. Sounds like he just wants slavery. All interns should be paid. Paying and taking care of your employees should be the top priority, and it's why so many companies end up having high turn over, strikes, boycotts, or just fall apart. Take care of your employees, and they'll take care of the company. Don't be a Boeing.
For unpaid work would wood 2nd inspections do first inspection paid worker 2nd inspection free technically no more new work is being done just second set of eyes
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To Troy's credit, this is the first time I've heard an explanation on what an internship is and how it works without thinking of it as modern slavery in any way.
Depends a lot on the country sadly, some countries are pretty close to modern slavery with near nothing paid or even nothing at all.
I really appreciate this explanation. It's great! Thanks Troy!
Yeah, just sucks when companies ignore those regulations, benefit from them without paying them, and the intern doesn't have any real ability to report it since it could sabotage their career in that industry. Suddenly the few contacts you have don't trust you.
Ditto! Very interesting to hear this discussion and learn a bit.
Plus, Doug playing greedy (humorous) corporate America and Troy stating the rules how it should be was entertaining 😄
I was an engineering intern with GE back when they still made things. For their cost (no benefits, no vacation, fixed wage) interns add more value than they cost even as college idiots. Just pay your interns (above minimum wage). Don't be evil Doug.
Engineering Interns almost always get paid though. Where I work we routinely have a maxed out intern room to do the most menial mundane tasks that frankly I don't want to do. When I was an intern I was hired to do a task they thought would take all summer and I had it done in like 2.5 weeks. So then I spent the rest of the summer fucking around and doing all kinds of nonsense, it was both shitty and awesome. But they tried to retain me after the summer was over, but I wanted to finish school.
I find the HR episodes and conversations so fascinating.
I did an internship in industrial automation. It was paid, started at $17 and hour and got up to $22 by the time they offered me a full-time job. It was a great deal for them because they paid me far less than their full-time employees even though I was producing the same quality of work within six months. When they offered me a job they knew how good of a worker I was and I wouldn't even need on the job training. I think around 20% of their employees (at least in engineering) were once interns. If you do it right, it can be a huge benefit to both the intern and the company.
I don't think they are ever going to finish that puzzle in the transition
Inhuman Resources sounds like a department in the Men in Black.
Good comment
Remember that it costs money to get to work and live. Unpaid internships select for people who have savings and who don't need the job.
If that's what you want, that's okay, but realize that you will be hiring for people who don't need the job and will be less likely to continue - they already need to be set to work for free.
You should always pay your interns, because you want to hire them and you want them to be living because of their work instead of in spite of their work. Interns are a way to onboard someone into a company culture.
Also, a lot of the time, they're managed separately. This means that they don't fall under the same overhead structure (they report to the intern manager), so you save cost there.
I didn't realize Troy was carrying concealed weapons! Those guns are impressive!
Sounds like Doug want apprenticeships, not internships...
Nah, sounds like Doug wants slaves.
do apprentices not get paid?
They do, it may just be me but for the type of work Wyrmwood does, apprenticeships seem more relevant than interns
Hmmm ... Now I'm curious to hear Troy's take on how industry apprenticeships work!
isn't that just a different word for the same thing?
Dougie is really trying to give off Robber Baron vibes.
Because he's the opposite. That kind of sarcasm can only come from someone who deep down strongly believes in a completely reversed philosophy.
An example of an unpaid, beneficial internship: Bring in woodworking students. Give them scrap wood (mistakes close to completion) and off-cuts. Show them what the correct way to do things is. Have them work for a couple of weeks. The ones that show good work and fast learning, keep their names on file and make them an offer when they get out of school. It costs the company a little bit (paying someone to teach them) but you might find some real talent you can draw from later.
Doug, there is another option and that is the Skillbridge program via the Military. The Military pays the salary of veterans looking for a new career opportunity and you train them for their first year (Military pays them) and then you hopefully convert them to a full time employee.
I don't think Doug appreciates how much hiring someone can cost, and how much you can save if you've already got a talent pool of people you like you could just call instead.
When hiring people you've got to consider advertising costs, or agency fees, then the staff caosts/labour of sorting through the applications, the cost of staff time taken away to do interviews etc.
I work for an ATS (applicant tracking system) companies use to advertise their jobs, and manage applications, and clients absolutely love talent pools. Having a good talent pool solution can really sell some big contracts.
Considering they spent 100k+ trying to hire someone, and made episodes about it, I think he knows
No kidding. Hiring someone new is an investment, and for my position, it would cost the company between $80K and $100K a year to train a new person.
So you're saying that the guy who has hired many people to work at his company doesn't know about hiring? Since the company is successful, presumably his hiring strategy was good.
Always pay people.
Every single wyrmlife video is just a constant reminder that I'm still waiting for my modular table to be sent. The countdown has been brutal! I've been so excited to finally get a quality table and these videos on my feed are a constant reminder I still have to wait! love what you guys do keep it up!
I went to school for furniture making. I did a two week internship in an upholstered furniture shop and learned a lot.
Doug does not understand the concept of a 'talent pool'. It is completely going over his head.
Doug mostly hires friends and friends of friends, so he doesn't need a talent pool.
@@Gramps935
Try, hard, to not be this dumb.
Also hes the type to grab anyone who isn't garbage and have someone teach them how to do things so no need to pick and choose between very experienced workers
@@Gramps935 Actually, we don't. Perhaps that was true in the past but the overwhelming majority of the people we bring on have no affiliation with Doug or any of the founders/owners. A good percent are friends of already existing associates.
@@troysgoodman7159 It has been really enjoyable watching the company continue to develop and mature. Keep up the good work!
Inhuman Resources sounds like a great indie horror movie.
I started an unpaid internship in college where I was just supposed to shadow people in theater production, but it turned into a paid internship when the sound guy skipped town and drove to Mexico and disappeared. Suddenly I became sound designer, put the music, sfx, and cues together, and ran it for its entire production (and got paid). It was pretty wild.
As someone who pushed carts at my local Target for over 6 years, I just gained a bit more respect for Doug.
I was an unpaid intern once. All I did was studying tools, and technics and how the job and the company worked. I learned SO MUCH MORE than college ever came to teach me! In the end, they liked my technical skills and ended up hiring me, that was over 7 years ago and I'm sure I'm in a better professional path due to that internship.
My mom had a guy do landscaping work for her through a company. He was here completely at the whims of the company. She tried, and spent a bit of money, trying to get him out from under their thumb. They wouldn't even let him go home to be with his dad before he died. Completely fucked how this stuff works here.
Learning more about HR from this channel than from anywhere else in my LIFE!
Troy was excellent this episode. I really hope Doug was playing up the conversation for comedic effect, because otherwise some of his takes and opinions were REALLY poor.
Internships are FANTASTIC for a small business. 30 day unpaid internship. Each of your staff takes a little time to show the intern how their job is done. The end result is phenomenal. Our interns learned retail floor duties. Facility maintenance. Cash handling. Stock management and ordering. Warehousing. Retail admin. The staff got sharper and better at their jobs, the intern left with a lot of new skills, and a better understanding of our industry. Best of all, the intern becomes a very loyal - and outspoken - fan of our business… and we have a list of people who we know and who have already been partially trained.
Everybody wins.
I wonder how it would pan out if it was an episode of worm(ling)life the intern could produce edit and release on their own personal channel, exposure for them, learning and practice of edit, upload, manage etc.
Plus they could spend their time filming matt making wormlife... wormlife-ception baby!
I actually had a job at 14 (actually even earlier if you count me mowing lawns) in manufacturing. They brought me in and I operated a machine (high speed drill) that made something for a truck gearbox (cylindrical piece that drilled a cone in one end).
Bring an unpaid intern in, make them sort wood and finished parts!
What sucks even more about internships is that you can do an internship or research in most universities. If you do research, then you won't get payed even if you are producing new results or a new thing that the professor will use going forward. Due to covid, no internships were available when I was getting my masters and I did research and created a new program that was my own fully and yet I didn't get payed at all
some universities will pay you but they don't have to which is what sucks the most, and in my case I couldn't risk asking to bve payed. So insead I payed them to work for them 🙃I had to pay tuition to do research over the summer even though I was never even on campus and didn't use a single resource provided by the university
That's some impressive exploitation right there!
I wonder how new these laws are
I've had plenty of internships that profit the company that was unpaid.
I've done a (state payed) internship, gave me basic hardware IT skills and work experience that I still benefit from today, 25 years later.
The Army has a program for Soldiers who are transitioning out of the military and back into civilian life. Each Soldier, pending commander approval, can do up to a six month internship with a company. The Soldier is still an government employee and is paid by the DoD so, the company gains a benefit by having a free labor pool, the Soldier benefits by gaining career specific training and a paycheck, and the military benefits by having people successfully transition and that is used as a recruiting aid.
2:50 stirring the chocolate is why this guy is so yoked. 💪
...just pay them. I graduated 10 years ago and even back then I was under the impression no one did unpaid internships anymore. That shit is so scummy
I like Troy, probably the only HR guy i've ever liked (exageration). I call my company's HR - Human Residue. ;)
There is an internship at my work, where my agency *WANTS* to pay the intern, but their school says that they are not allowed a paid internship, and they will lose credit if we do. We have no clue why the school has that policy and after watching this, I feel even more off about the school restricting the intern this way.
In Canada we had government assistance that would support the hiring of co-op or intern students by subsidizing their pay. It meant that you could come in as an intern/co-op student for a short period (3+ months usually), the company would be able to effectively pay less than minimum wage, but the intern would make above minimum wage due to the subsidy.
I'm not sure if there are programs like that in the US, but it seemed like a very reasonable/effective way to encourage companies to help build up the young talent while still benefitting.
I don't know, but Doug gives of an energy that sounds like he is joking about stuff like the farm and copying their concept, yet at the same time there is this "but what if we DID?" vibe. Sometimes his takes are so outlandish that I am become uncertain about whether he is actually joking in such instances…
1992 - first job age of 10 deliverying newspapers. 2nd job rolling posters for a video distributor at the age of 13.
I did two paid internships in software development. Was awesome for them to get cheap labor and was awesome for my resume.
In Wisconsin, you can get a job at 14. First job was working in the dish room.
I guarantee you there are people of all ages who would pay /Wyrmwood/ to do a 90-day course in woodworking, CNC modeling, etc.
Reminds me of student teaching. Two years of work that I had to pay to do.
Family business rules make employee rules wild. In some states a family business can trump minimum wage, age restrictions, and hours.
I know there was a lot of good “real world” conversations here, but can we talk about Troy’s arms!? Dude is getting massive!
I 'm an attorney and I was an unpaid Clerk for a judge during a summer. I wrote memos ruling on issues for the judge, which he reviewed and issued.
I wasn't an intern, per se, when I was in school. When I was in college, I was a co-op, and alternated work terms and school terms. I was paid for my 9-5 in the office every day, even though I was (in theory) learning how to be an accountant. But yeah, I was given all the grunt work.
I had an internship before my now-career. It paid $5k per year more than my then-career.
Pay your interns! as an engineering intern it’s crucial to a functioning system
My summer job was working in an ice house. Making and delivering bags/blocks of ice to convenience stores in the area. Spent most of my day inside a freezer while it was in the high 90s outside.
Interned one summer for $300/week. 4 of us total, constantly pitted against each other to work late for no pay. This is what you have to do to get a good job offer on graduation. Graduation happens. Firm hires 2 fresh ivy league graduates that never interned. Firm ghosts former interns.
I did an internship for a Fortune 500 and it was so awkward. The liability felt huge and the education was a brief overview but it was really cool to get an inside look at an operation and people you would never have met otherwise. Plus the boss took us all for Dim Sum which was a wild experience at 17.
I'm glad there are actually internship rules and laws now, even if they're not enough, back in the early 00s when I was freshly graduated from college, everything was internships. 40 hour a week internships... Insane. It's just slavery. All internships should be paid internships, at full wages.
Bagels: The New Capitalist Currency.
Apprenticeships>internships
Apprenticeships make skilled employees later. frontloading learning and low contributing employees and ending with high skilled employees.
Any internship I've seen has required needing to pursue an actual degree. Having been in a two year accelerated program it left no time for interning and put me in an SOL position once I graduated. Internships sound nice but trying to get into one for experience after graduation sucks.
I am about to do an unpaid automation engineer internship (Denmark btw).
And I for sure think that the work I do could be of benefit to the company I'll be working at.
The difference here, is that I am payed during my education from the state anyways.
Always pay your interns, and pay them well. Interns that convert into full time positions perform better and have higher retention than other employees. Yes, the primary focus is on teaching them, but this investments tends to earn itself back many times over.
Make Wyrmlyfe great again, bring back dailys!
Ohhhh that was an very clear explenation from Troy.
I'm from the netherlands, and I do not think unpayed ineternship exists here. it's all payed, BUT! it's well (very far) below minimum wage. like 25% of minimum wage..
so plenty students who are doing an intern to learn their desired proffesion, also have a job to pay for everything else. it's fucked up.
“Can’t be whipping around on a forklift”… *looks over shoulder at driving tractors and bulldozers before I had a “Learner’s Permit” for a car…* Then again, that was the 70’s… We had lawn darts and other deadly “toys”.
I want a video on Troy's work out routine (and Broman's for that matter). Modestly jacked!
So THAT'S how Troy got jacked... Stirring the chocolate 😆
Even in a complimentary, joking fashion, HR should know not to discuss the physical appearance of employees outside of dress code.
Marketing intern forever ago. Was paid, as I provided value like cutting out and mailing marketing material, and even designing an ad for a magazine. 8$/hr baby 😂
Maybe look into vocaional schools in the state, alot of the shop students would love the experience as a Co Op job and have a base skillset
I did an internship with 2 different ems agencies as part of paramedic school, definately "provided benefit" aka did patient care including medical interventions. Maybe its different for the public sector?
Troy come to Pa, I've gotta meet you now since you brought up Hershey Park!!
Actually @michael.frampton I lived in PA for seven years (Hershey - 4 years; Dubois - 3 years) and go down to our PA plant quarterly. Would be happy to meet you.
Just wait until you find out about the red seal program, and apprenticeships.
Yea my college internship was just free labor for the company I worked for.
Knowing Doug's children rather well, you'd REALLY have to sit down and do a cost/benefit analysis to see if their unpaid labor would be a benefit or detriment to the company.
I wish instead of debating internships you’d make your website work. I’d love to order a set of chairs for the Prophecy. But I think you need a computer science degree to separate out the modular table content from the kickstarter content from the actual store where I can actually buy eight chairs for my table.
Why not both?
In seriousness, our website needs work and is a work-in-progress. If you would like to order a set of chairs for your Prophecy, email us at concierge@wyrmwoodgaming.com, or start the process with a deposit on our website under the "Signature Series," (I know....It's not obvious or intuitive. Again, "work-in-progress.")
wyrmwoodgaming.com/signature-series/
It’s like the office but real
Welcome to another instance when teaching doesn't follow standard labor laws. I had to pay for my internship (aka Student Teaching). The mentor teacher got free classes through the college and time away from their students. I was definitely providing work for the "company".
Troy episodes may be my favorite episodes.
Shout out to all the unpaid internships i had. To be fair I got job offers from both that I turned down
Fun fact there are .. paying, not paid, interns at mega churches that pay to be a part of a school/internship and basically take classes and then work there .. without being paid
Just pay them.
Internships for tech jobs are paid. Manufacturing jobs should be no different, they should be paid for labor. The unpaid internships as assistants in political offices are generally unpaid because the family that these kids come from are pretty wealthy to start with.
Give me that lift-top coffee table please!
Small company's like Wyrmwood make jokes about abusing people..
Big companies don't make jokes
Gotta say, Troy's guns had to have started with cooking the chocolate. 💪
Doug could have his children work and the money that he pay them go to an education fund to pay for college or university. And since it would likely be below the minimum tax level they would not have to pay income tax.
love this talk
Internship, more like feet in the door of the ship😂
legend says Big Tony runs a 5.1 40
Untrained internship = Only for the purpose of developing them, no benefit to the company. Well here's the thing. Unless you don't give them any worthy while tasks then they aren't actually developing. But if you do give them worth while tasks then you are benefiting the company...
No matter how you explain it, an unpaid internship is bullshit and anyone who offers one is a shit bag not worth working for.
I think uh might be time for some more Jason/Bobby focused vids
Yo where's the corrupted MGT tables at Doug?!?!
lol interns =) ..... day 22 Me vs Doug throwing cards at interns I LOVE ITTTT!!!!
Wait, are we all illegally unpaid interns? I am benefitting my personal development by watching, and the company is benefitting from my viewership...
Would Doug pay in company scrip if he could?
Good morning, Wyrmlings..
Not me realizing my internship was illegal
Doug came off really bad in this episode. Sounds like he just wants slavery.
All interns should be paid. Paying and taking care of your employees should be the top priority, and it's why so many companies end up having high turn over, strikes, boycotts, or just fall apart. Take care of your employees, and they'll take care of the company.
Don't be a Boeing.
@@ScytheNoire
Shut up. All you do on this channel is complain. Just unsubscribe.
Unpaid internships are dumb. Start em out at minimum wage if they do well give them a raise.
Doug wants to make Taunton a company town.
I shit you not, I wrote that before Doug said it at the end.
Send me to the farm baybeee!!
For unpaid work would wood 2nd inspections do first inspection paid worker 2nd inspection free technically no more new work is being done just second set of eyes
im all for the inter edit letsgoooo XD
MY MAN TROY I ALSO HAD MY FIRST JOB AT HERSHEYPARK AT 16
Wow! Tell me more! Are you a Milty?
@@troysgoodman7159 nah, I just lived in the area! I was Rides for like 10 years during HS and college!