Biggest downfall for these chips is the fact there only pci-e 3.0 and the cache as you pointed out. Regardless I put one in a linux rig I have with a 5700xt and they pair well together.The memory controller on it will do 2100 fclk with 4200 ram I have running at C16 18 18 32 for a VM in the background with integrated passed through to it.
Yeah people keep telling me the Mem controller on these is a beast. And I think AMD knew what these chips HAD to be, and we realistically aren't even using up all the PCI4 we have already, PCI3 is still more than good enough unless maybe you have a 4090 or something, in which case, this is not your chip.
3600, CL16-16-16-16-36. Pretty much the fastest "spec" RAM you can get for AM4. There are faster rated RAM, but if they have high CL numbers it kind of worked out to the same thing. I know the RAM I have is good so I got about as much out that CPU you could get "stock", unless you're a more advanced use you tinkers with the RAM.
@@DATT Well, that might be true for a normal 5000 series CPU; the G-series chips are a monolithic design with a much stronger integrated memory controller (IMC). Normally, you would pair faster RAM with them for an APU. However, it also helps in games to make up for the lack of cache. A 4000 32 gb dual rank CL 14 kit is not an uncommon choice.
@@r3drumg33k3 Ohhh, well yeah then, If they did improve the Mem Controller and you got some 4000 running CL14, then yeah, def better. What's the model of kit you have ? I'm not seeing any stock 4000/14 kits, most seem to start at 16, which is not bad either.
@@r3drumg33k3 Wow eh, really cranking up the voltage to get there. I wonder what die they use. Wouldn't be surprise if I could just OC mine to those settings.
@@DATT not my daily driver, but definitely, yes. i consider 7 to be the best version of windows, especially since it was the last before Windows became spyware. My 7 pc also is my music making pc, so all the vst's, old sessions, etc. gotta keep that baby alive! Forever 7!
@@cbluebeard Ahh, well, it's a specific purpose system, so yeah, solid plan. Some of what I've done on my systems has required me to update them. For something like a DAW, yeah, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Some Magic for Video Editing -- Make sure you have Windows Ram Compression turned OFF..! A must to do...!! Make sure you have MB 10bit TAG Support turned on. Again a must to do. This increased my Corel Editor by 3X times faster in render speed. With AMD CPU. For 32GB of RAM or MORE...!!!!!!! (you really need 64GB because Window 10/11 can take as much as 40GB just for its system) But most people can get by with 32GB. How to turn off RAM/Memory compression USE: Right Click Mouse on Windows Icon /Click on Windows PowerShell (Admin) type or copy " Disable-MMAgent -mc " (return) don't copy the quotes marks.! NOTE: this works with AMD or Nivida Cards...! Mother Board - "10bit Tag Support" will increase your GPU speed by 1-3 % if turned on. Auto Mode = OFF; This will not work with old M.2 drives. The hardware needs to be Gen4 or 5 / Amazing Graphics with this on, if your running a 10bit monitor in 10 bit mode Vcard. This is a must do for Nivida GEN4 cards. (Note: You can not use LINUX OS with this on some apps.) Note: It's ok to turn on 10bit TAG SUPPORT with SATA drives in the MB.! Bios path: you can fine this in MB: / advanced / amdcbs / nbio / 10bit on the AMD ASUS bios. This works great for gaming also. Enjoy all.!!
Biggest downfall for these chips is the fact there only pci-e 3.0 and the cache as you pointed out. Regardless I put one in a linux rig I have with a 5700xt and they pair well together.The memory controller on it will do 2100 fclk with 4200 ram I have running at C16 18 18 32 for a VM in the background with integrated passed through to it.
Yeah people keep telling me the Mem controller on these is a beast.
And I think AMD knew what these chips HAD to be, and we realistically aren't even using up all the PCI4 we have already, PCI3 is still more than good enough unless maybe you have a 4090 or something, in which case, this is not your chip.
Ram specs? You normally try to pair the G series chips with much faster ram, like a 4000+ dual rank kit to compensate for the lack of cache.
3600, CL16-16-16-16-36. Pretty much the fastest "spec" RAM you can get for AM4.
There are faster rated RAM, but if they have high CL numbers it kind of worked out to the same thing. I know the RAM I have is good so I got about as much out that CPU you could get "stock", unless you're a more advanced use you tinkers with the RAM.
@@DATT Well, that might be true for a normal 5000 series CPU; the G-series chips are a monolithic design with a much stronger integrated memory controller (IMC). Normally, you would pair faster RAM with them for an APU. However, it also helps in games to make up for the lack of cache. A 4000 32 gb dual rank CL 14 kit is not an uncommon choice.
@@r3drumg33k3 Ohhh, well yeah then, If they did improve the Mem Controller and you got some 4000 running CL14, then yeah, def better.
What's the model of kit you have ? I'm not seeing any stock 4000/14 kits, most seem to start at 16, which is not bad either.
@@DATT G.skill Royals 4000 c15, run c14 no issue. And a 4266 c17 Ripjaws kit that also runs 4000 c14 @~1.5v
@@r3drumg33k3 Wow eh, really cranking up the voltage to get there. I wonder what die they use. Wouldn't be surprise if I could just OC mine to those settings.
I recently rebuilt my windows 7 music pc with the 5700g and a TUF B450plus. Last supported chipset for 7. Cloned it over and it worked.
You're still running windows 7 ?
@@DATT not my daily driver, but definitely, yes. i consider 7 to be the best version of windows, especially since it was the last before Windows became spyware. My 7 pc also is my music making pc, so all the vst's, old sessions, etc. gotta keep that baby alive! Forever 7!
@@cbluebeard Ahh, well, it's a specific purpose system, so yeah, solid plan. Some of what I've done on my systems has required me to update them.
For something like a DAW, yeah, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Some Magic for Video Editing -- Make sure you have Windows Ram Compression turned OFF..! A must to do...!! Make sure you have MB 10bit TAG Support turned on. Again a must to do. This increased my Corel Editor by 3X times faster in render speed. With AMD CPU.
For 32GB of RAM or MORE...!!!!!!! (you really need 64GB because Window 10/11 can take as much as 40GB just for its system) But most people can get by with 32GB.
How to turn off RAM/Memory compression USE: Right Click Mouse on Windows Icon /Click on Windows PowerShell (Admin) type or copy " Disable-MMAgent -mc " (return) don't copy the quotes marks.! NOTE: this works with AMD or Nivida Cards...!
Mother Board - "10bit Tag Support" will increase your GPU speed by 1-3 % if turned on. Auto Mode = OFF; This will not work with old M.2 drives. The hardware needs to be Gen4 or 5 / Amazing Graphics with this on, if your running a 10bit monitor in 10 bit mode Vcard. This is a must do for Nivida GEN4 cards. (Note: You can not use LINUX OS with this on some apps.)
Note: It's ok to turn on 10bit TAG SUPPORT with SATA drives in the MB.!
Bios path: you can fine this in MB: / advanced / amdcbs / nbio / 10bit on the AMD ASUS bios.
This works great for gaming also.
Enjoy all.!!
Hmm, interesting, I'll have to look into this.
Mmmmm pc content
Can be MM yeah.