I know the people that did this will never be ashamed of what they did but I hope karma comes around and bite them in the butt someday so that they’ll know how it feels to be so mistreated. Why can’t people just live and let live?
As long as people are cowards, nothing will happen. We need to get rid of the root of the problem. Let all the b's t's l's and g's dangle from a tree branch to show them they are not the ones in power. Otherwise, the next one is Silvervale, because cowards like you think they'll stop just because you won't stand up against them.
it will in 20 years, when all of this is pure bullshit and seen as a dark time of the internet someone is gona dig up their bullshit on the internet, and they gona get fired frm whatever mcdonalds work they have... and they gona cry and say they are sorry blablabla... and it will be awesome
@@jasoncartoI was going to say, they HATE that kind of talk because it strips away their protections and has people judging them based on actions instead of labels.
The people who throw Pikamee under the bus and deflect the fact that she's the victim try to instead claim that their favorite specific-group are the PRIMARY victims and PRIMARY focus, they use Pikamee to instigate conflict and gaslight people of a prejudice rather than say that Pikamee was 100% an innocent victim. Those people need to be tazed.
When group identity becomes their primary identity instead of the individualism, you have tyranny. I never support anyone who who thinks the group identity is the most important thing ever. Tribalism is what it is and they can go to hell. I’m not even remotely interested of “finding a middle ground” because marxists will never try to find one. I’m just interested in completely destroying their ideologies into the ground by just opposing them and mocking them in every front
Can't say KSON reincarnated as she always did that on the side -in the same way the rest of Hololive's talents do- so, there's that. But I do hope Pikamee does reincarnate, even if it is as an E-Girl. That kettle laugh is my oxygen.
To the “allies” who bullied Pikamee I wish thee unending and relentless misery. May you fail at every endeavor forever more and remember this single moment in life.
They aren’t real allies. All they do is make people like me and others in the LGBT community look bad. Real allies support us without bullying and threatening death on others.
Your wishes mean nothing, justice does not exist if people won't look for it. The only way to keep this tragedy from happening again is to get rid of the root of the problem. Let the b's t's g's and l's dangle all from a branch, that will stop them in their tracks, show that is the punishment for such actions. But, as long as people are cowards that won't stand up for what is right, nothing will change, and the next one who knows who will be. It might be Silvervale, sent to the afterlife by these freaks, will you wait and find that out?
@@jasoncarto doesnt matter. you cant be 100% nice, it isn't how the world works. it's why we are different. So I agree with them, they do deserve to fail, they do deserve every bit of karma
Imagine fighting for your rights and to not get bullied off the internet only for you to do the same thing to someone that did NOTHING to offend or hurt you. Hypocrisy, I tell you. Pikamee was an INTERNATIONAL treasure, she deserves none of this, she just wanted to play games and have fun with chat. We can only hope for the best for her now, let's make the most of her last month. Sasuga kettle, fly higher.
@@bakedturkeys2132 a good 1/3rd of the US gives no allowance to be trans, case in point Texas where hrt is essentially illegal and you can be sued for undergoing hrt
The biggest reason it'll be a tragedy is that they'll get away with it. They have too much support from society as a whole. They mocked and laughed when it was niche (comics, gaming, vtubers etc) but once it became popular they try to steal it... and they always succeed! They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny. And they're going to get away with it.
Question. What rights or bullying did they experience that wasn't earned from their natural behavior? Answer. None, its a grift and always had been, their complaints of toxicity are regular internet conversations.
There is a reason why these harrasers are a disappointment to their parents, and its sad they do not see it. May their parents continue to be disappointed in them, and their achievements taken away as swiftly as they did to Pika. -_-
Honestly I don’t think all of them were automatically disappointments, I believe a lot of them are mentally disturbed due to IRL trauma from abuse and had the internet as the only safe space from school and family. Some of them turned out this way due to not having anything irl and they ended up getting influenced due to being a part of bad communities for so long. I myself wound up in a similar situation of having the internet as a safe space from irl (thankfully I’m doing better and have a life now) but I turned out good since I wasn’t in a toxic community like these people.
Even if she *was* about to quit, it's like throwing rocks into the house of someone who you later learn is moving away. The bullies are going, 'Well she was moving away anyway, so us throwing the rocks wasn't the reason why she's leaving so shut up! Stop hating on us!' THAT is the attitude that is still infuriating to so many people now. So those people trying to get on their high horse - no, you don't get to ride off into the sunset like nothing happened. I'd tell them to pray that some people don't make them that go through some 'Red - Redemption'.
Hope Pikamee takes this time to surround herself with a good supportive group and can find whatever she needs to get better. Hope her and her fans have a great month and hope yall have a wonderful day (Late heart pls Hei?)
No, she didn’t. But we allowed it to happen. We let these people run, amok, run rampant. All in the name of tolerance. How many more must be sacrifice before we learn?
Asmongold is 100% correct. It's absolutely appalling that, not only will they get away with it, but they are incentivised to do it again. However, we're caught in a catch 22. It infuriates me to see these trogoliditic bottom feeders gain anything but we can't force Pikamee to continue streaming, and nor do I want to force her to. I hate this situation but Pikamee wants to enjoy the last month so we should do everything we can to make it great. I love Pika as my girlfriend and she has boing boing. (T-T)7
Although, I hope those who bullied her hear boss music start playing anytime they open their phone because they never deserve to enjoy the privileges of life again. I'm talking the second they open twitter they should hear the guardian music from BOTW start playing
If they do get away with it, it won't be painless. Almost the entirety of the Vtuber community and I think Japanese Twitter, alongside 4chan, have been ripping them a new one as retribution for Pikamee
The people downplaying Pikamee's situation are just as bad as those twitter freaks. Even if she was going to graduate this certainly pushed the deadline closer, and didn't Kson say the bullying DID play a part in it? They're just trying to do damage control for their oh so caring "community"
@@tzu_nami It's simply the adorable straw that has broken the camels back. for years now online communities have been bombarded by these mentally unwell freaks being forced to accept their retarded demands.
No... This always happens! They mocked and laughed when it was niche (comics, gaming, vtubers etc) but once it became popular they try to steal it... and they always succeed! They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny. And they're going to get away with it.
11:53 - There were 'allies' AND trans people attacking her. I defended her in my community and even the small amount of harassers tried to attack me just for being mad at the situation. Of course, most of the people are kind and sympathetic to the situation.
I hate how all the gaming sites frame it with Headlines like "Pikamee leaves after Hogwarts Legacy Controversary". You know damn well if this was someone the journos cared about, say Anita Sarkeesian, and the harassers were an acceptable target they would've put "harassment" in the titles. Because the harassment group is a sacred cow that can't be criticized, they don't.
Gatekeeping kept all the weirdos and the lunatics from getting their hands on our politics. Now look, they've torn down "Bullying" and now we have so many Mentally Unwell people running amok!! Harassing anyone and anything that gets in their way. I agree, Gatekeeping should be reinforced, especially with all the stupid, attention seeking kids that get involved with bs like "My gender is Red! Yes the color, because I associate with it. My pronouns are Red-self/Redder!"
Note: Pomu says "her break." This could refer to either her January Mental health break OR the post-harassment break. VOMS even called her graduation a sudden thing, which would not be the case if it were planned a month or longer beforehand.
The people who bully usually ends up going in a horrible path while the person who got bullied use that opportunity to work, grind hard and become successful in life Trust me those western bullies will either have a shitty life or they will die by either accidentally or health issues .... Me: I miss the part where that's my problem
Yeah VOMs is honestly more akin to Vshojo than it is Hololive or Nijisanji. I'm not sure if the VOMS project talents actually 'own' their characters tho.
@@og_3rd_st_saint_gat you're welcome. Oh and also, it seems she was the one that decided to put all of her content on private, saved for collabs of any kind.
Honestly I'm just tired of this kind of negativity happening time and time again and it's always based around either LGBTQ or the trans community. It's mostly the trans community. This stuff is exhausting and ruins good things and I'm at the point where I just don't care about these groups anymore. They always do this crap. At this point they deserve all the hate they keep piling on themselves for not only allowing these people to represent them but not saying much of anything about it at all. They always get mad when people wanna stay out of politics saying stuff like "your silence says everything" yet don't hold up to that same philosophy when crap is coming from their own. Honestly hope there's huge consequences for this crap at some point. My sympathy and tolerance has run dry.
Same here... I've been trying my best to not want to hate those groups for a while now. And when they do stuff like this, it just makes me feel like a rope in a game of tug of war...
Absolutely, the fact that they don't set themselves appart from all the shit that's being said 100% falls into the silence thing. And I hope it backfires for them. Just look at how horribly the feminist movement did, half of the people I know hate them because they are tired (me included), and for people like us this is just history repeating itself, many of those people I know went straight to hating on these new groups and mocking them because we all knew what was gonna happen, but people still let it happen. And it's always the most basic stuff that offends them, like games, movies, content creators... They say they are in for inclusion but then they have a historic movie where no one in the cast matches the race of the people that lived there and were part of the event. They say they are opressed, but have the power to end someone's career over something they "just did not like". There is a quote I love from a comedian called Ricky Gervais that I think completely embodies how many of us feel: “How arrogant are you that you think you deserve to go through life with no one ever saying anything that you don’t agree with or like?”
I feel this very same way. I get it started with good intentions, but it's gotten so corrupt. We gave them an inch, and they took a mile sort of fight. Normal shouldn't look like: Everyone is Gay, Lesbian, Trans, or Painted with flag colors. Everyone has to know their labels. Everyone has to listen and obey everyone else's wishes without question, or else you are 100% in the wrong! Normal should look like acceptance, not a take over. Being able to accept and speak about your Trans friends, or being Trans, or being Gay, Lesbian, Non-Binary, Whatever, and not be judged or hated on it. But they got exactly what they were trying not to get because they couldn't let anyone else have an opinion. *They* had to be the ones in the right, because only *They* know what is right or wrong.
Definitely share in that sentiment, since their activism is more counterintuitive rather than furthering their cause in the right way. And I definitely agree that they should keep radicalism in check rather than turn a blind eye to such obvious contradictions, since it just shows the whole movement as either inept and/or hypocritical, as this current boycotting fiasco has shown. Because once they cross the red then it’s a loss of respect towards their cause.
That bulling story reminded me. A kid on next door classroom, when i was like 10 yo, got bullied because he liked DBZ. One day im coming back to the class and see this kid, quite small btw, throwing punches while two dudes, upperclass, try to defend themselves, while there's other 3 or 4 kids on the floor grabbing their faces. They fucked around and found out.
ngl... I was the same, Hei. When I was a kid I got bullied a lot because I was half Thai-Chinese, but I snapped and beat the shit out of those people that bullied me. After that fight, no one wanted to bully me again because they knew that I will fought back. All I want to say is "Don't surrender to the bullies even tho you might lose".
@@tzu_nami I might won the fight, but that's why I said "Don't surrender to the bullies even tho you might lose". My best friend got bullied a lot like me, but the different between us was that he never fought back. The bullies made he ended his life.
Nice. Where I am, fighting back gets you a bigger punishment than bullying. I also fought back and I didn't care about punushment because I know I did the right thing. People want you to be docile. Don't be what they want you to be.
@@Alex-hj2jd you know my mother does not like me fighting my bullies but my uncle a true giga chad but is a chain smoker too he is still alive don't worry im still worry of his health
@@Alex-hj2jd You're just bad at it, simple ways in going against them is harrasment that only they know you did it but can't prove it was you and slow assassination of everything they love.
That story about the bullies trying to fight you and losing is so satisfying. I’ve always hated bullies even before I was bullied. It’s always funny to me when bullies talk big and act big but then they meet that one kid that makes them absolutely bite it. 😂
None of these hobbies were ever intended for ideological leftoids. That's why they're late to the party. Which is why their disdain and outrage is so palpable and observable within this compressed amount of time like the past half decade or so. Because they're just discovering these hobbies for the first time and they're shocked by the landscape of true fans of these things and how it doesn't comport to their ideals and beliefs. Anime and it's tangential hobbies embrace notions of humor, coolness, cohesive storytelling, compelling characters, strong characters, beautiful women, and overall fun. All of which are antithetical to postmodernist leftoid values.
Though this isn't even anime. They're just glorified streamers doing shit behind an anonymous persona. It still doesn't change the fact though that what happened to Pikamee was arguably leagues worse than what happened to someone like ProJared. Pikamee didn't even commit to doing the Hogwarts stream, she got bullied off the internet for even just intending to play it. Like, at least with ProJared, we all thought he actually did something fucked up at first. That's not to say what happened to ProJared was justified either (we should've waited for all the facts from both sides), but Pikamee literally did nothing wrong. This whole "guilty by association" horse shit is just getting incredibly out of hand on the internet. I just don't fully buy this idea that "everything is political" and that "buying Hogwarts Legacy supports the oppression of trans people", JK Rowling would've still kept sending fucking letters to congress regardless of whether or not we kept giving her money. If you really wanted to stop this sorta shit, pass federal laws to protect these sorts of rights. Though at that point, we'd have to finally figure out shit like "should teens be allowed to undergo hormone therapy at an early age, or are they not emotionally mature enough yet?" Like, the entire reason people even still argue about this stuff (beyond just bigots wanting to make life hard for trans people) is because there are morally grey situations like that. If this discussion were so cut and dry, it wouldn't be so heavily politicized.
@@four-en-tee I actually agree with jk on some thing and the self I'd bill in Scotland was rife with abuse till the point even the UK struck it down Be what or who you want to be I just don't think children should be exposed to any sort of adult topic especially those of a sexual nature given they don't know what they are talking about and the whole idea of self I'd being easily abused by bad actors like grapists what you do as an adult is your business tough if a consenting adults wants to use hormone blockers or a surgery that's up too them So yes these are very big moral grey areas and it doesn't help that both sides scream at each other never engaging in a debate or dialogue of any kind
People who choose to make enemies out of something like a video game, are the ones who are truly miserable. Pikamee may be sad now. But she'll be happy and make others happy IRL, while these people will always be miserable
Worth noting that Pikamee has been liking some tweets that blame the harassers for her graduation, maybe she was just considering graduation (interpreting what Pomu said) and the harassment was the final straw. Or else like you said, the harassers made it so that she couldn't be with us for as long as she would've liked due to the sudden hiatus after the harassment.
Multiple people including Silver and Pomu stated she did plan it, though nobody states how recently. VOMS also released a statement on Pikamee's "sudden graduation announcement." She also talked about her plans for the year in the New Years stream. She likely was planning on leaving, but things were accelerated by the bullying.
@@azjugallo if it was planned why did she break down about it? This is clearly damage control from them so they don't try and fan the flames and make it so hate toward THAT community doesn't grow larger.
She's already being bullied in Japan for being half Japanese so she reaching out to the Kaigai Niki thinking that they won't ever do that to her.Her mental state can't withstand those freak's actions for long so she's accelerated her graduation date.
I know how it feels too be bullied It's not fun all tough my bullies stopped after a certain event I went to prison for let's so say I pushed it way to far and turned it from a fight into assault bully hospitalized me in jail But bullying isn't fun and someone with pikamees personality type Incredibly friendly and wholesome people like pikamees have a tendency to break rather easily So yes this sucks
I been following this on the side lines. I feel bad for the Trans that say "I want to apologize on behalf of my community." Since we know they didn't do anything. The ones that said "Harassment is not okay BUT." Harassed her and Silver and they have the audacity to say that.
Harassment is never ok; PERIOD. As a member of the community, I hate it when people use us to push their hatred and bullying on others. Especially if they did nothing wrong. They aren’t even allies, just trolls who want to make the world a living hell for the fun of it.
It's not like trans people were involved in whatever stupid shit this is. It's just another false flag piece of shit so whiny conservatives can have more excuses to torture and murder. Granted, it's also shitty of anyone to play 'Let's kill jews with magic: The Videogame' and give a ton of money to someone pushing for the death of minors, but that's the world we're in.
I just hope the people that tried to justify the harassment of Pikamee, Silvermane, and others realize that by doing so, they've put themselves in a position so that if THEY get harassed and bullied, people can simply say "Well, you deserved it." They don't get to whine and cry and complain if they get harassed, because they were fine with it being done to someone else.
Apologies cant do shit. They should at least know who did these and publicly call them out instead of victim blaming after all the shit they pulled. All they did was watch on the sidelines while their radicals did the harassing. If anything theyre part of the problem since they should know it could lead to this but did nothing.
In my opinion I felt that pikamee was was definetly slowing down but if she was gonna graduate I don't think it would have been March maybe spring time a time where new beginnings come around, so I do think that the hogwarts legacy definetly affected the timing of the graduation
Just for a game people bully someone. That is very low. Pikamee showed energy and joy in her streams and that is very hard showing those emotions. And because of her streams and clips made me smile and forget my worries. I hate the people who bullied her to the core and cannot forgive them
The small segment about martial arts got me thinking about it... I always thought why couldn't I get engaged with any kind of martial art in life, even tho I'm aware of it's benefits. But. After listening to this I could understand that what I'm lacking is passion, so now I can accept not being interested on it as it isn't just because I'm lazy or afraid of getting hurt or anything like that, so thanks for sharing that with us ☺️
To those who don't know why the Pikamee graduation is so big its because she was a BIG person in the Vtuber world and loved by everyone, she was one of the most wholesome person to exist, she was a main source of entertainment and relax to us and we all are in grief for this Edit: please don't use my comment to start hate or making bad comments, of course I'm mad but Pikamee wouldn't want hate to be spread and also there's no just persons from one community or the other its a group of shit persons that have all kind of people with different identities not just trans, I already let my anger let yesterday in many sites and I realize that's not gonna fix anything no one ever has changed by attacking them, now we all need to do is support her in what little time we have left with her, drown the hate with the love we will show her
and depressing to see them deny and or downplay situations and happenings in their own echo chambers for easy likes or even comments as a vtuber with thousands of followers pretend never heard of pikamee before
Lets not forget who took her from us, dont let anyone shift the blame, I don't even care anymore, Pikamee was the only Vtuber I genuinely loved from the bottom of my heart, she was very different from others, I'm not a simp, i just really enjoy her contents because of her personality, I can't even count the amount of times Pikamee's videos managed to save from depression , she seriously became my therapist. *THAT* community that harassed pikamee will surely have to pay for this. I wont mention what community because RUclips and Twitter protects the hell of those sh*t sacks
Really hope Kson helps her out with her career after her graduation. Pikamee at least deserves to be able to continue her streams under some new Vtuber identity or something.
Thing is, kson made that clip right after speaking to pikamee who is her friend, and all kson talked about was bullying. So how they gonna try to say it wasn't about the bullying? Also, when pomu mentions talking to pikamee about graduation "before her break". Pika had 2 breaks. A long hiatus for health reasons, then a 3 week break after the bullying.
well there's Gyari's comments on it literally saying her graduating wasn't a response to this and that it's been planned for a long time, but that doesn't get as many clicks I guess
@@tjingram93 ah yes because companies NEVER pretend the situation was pefectly normal every time someone quits or leave the company in order to avoid fincial or social damage NEVER.
Look deep within. You have inner strength. Believe in your own capacity and the support of family & loved ones or whoever you still have. Keep fighting the good fight, and don't let people like these human cockroaches dogpile you. They hit you, you hit them back. Harder. That's all I can say. Your life matters. Don't waste it by ending it prematurely. A fatal mistake you could never take back, and it only leaves your surviving loved ones with needless sorrow. If anyone deserves to be rid from the earth, it's the twitter-freak bullies, with their obnoxious self-entitled righteousness & holier-than-thou narcissism.
I've met too many trans people against the game, and people playing it, to believe that it was just 'trans allies' who were harassing her. this might be a controversial take, but the sooner we stop deflecting the blame off of them, the better. because doing that is exactly what got it to being this bad.
I don't think real trans people want to identify as trans, because they want to 'pass'. You're right, it's not just the allies... it's the fucking self-identifying group who have been doing it for social credit score. They mocked and laughed when it was niche. When comics became mainstream, they colonized it. When gaming became mainstream, they colonized it. When vtubers became mainstream, they are now colonizing it from every front. They are calling it cultural appropriation to attack those who built this community from the niche so that they can slot themselves into this position of power. They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny.
I was personally friends with a few of the larger trans vtweeters who kicked off and perpetuated the brigading against silver and pikamee. They are trans- not allies. They fed the ongoing hostility and continue to feed it now. They're actually deranged. (And now that it's women's history month, there's a whole new topic where they can claim trans hate over)
My only worries is that I am seeing so many people on twitter generalizing the ENTIRE trans community that they are to blame for it, and I have been seeing a surprising amount of people say some very filthy things about it, I understand the anger and it's fine to be angry but I worry that innocent people are just going to be harmed out of this Just like what happened to Pikamee, and I know that's not what Pikamee wants. This entire situation is just frustrating and depressing for me, I loved Pikamee, and I have many trans friends, and I worry for them because of this happening and I worry for the burden Pikamee has to deal with here.
This is so true...before this whole incident, i was never afraid of letting it known i am trans since i didn't have much reason to be ashamed or afraid...However now i am afraid of making comments like the one you made because i was alredy harassed irl because of it... Worst part: What proof is there that the peope harassing Pikamee were truly trans/allies and not people trying to both ruin a Vtuber AND redirect hatred towards the trans community?
@@MizuEna-BiggestFan well as things are there has been pushback against the transphobic nonsense and pikamee is still as positive as ever. It's thankfully getting better. If anything this just teaches us all that Twitter truly is full of awful people that got nothing better to do except harass and harm. No matter the side.
Pomu seems like a good friend to have. I loved her MGR play but did not pay much attention besides. Now I think it might be worth to follow her channel.
pikamee was my first vtuber experiance, its makes me sad to see bullies, i hope the real world person behind pikamee is safe and there isnt a threat to life. (having been there before, its hard)
Don’t take this as representative of the entire LGBTQ community. That’ll just lead to more of this madness. (In fact, one could argue that that’s precisely what the Twitter Morons were doing by attacking anyone who played the game.) What you _should_ be mad at are flamers, trolls, cyberbullies, and everyone else who uses the internet as a means to spread hostility.
I hope Pikamee is the best in whatever she does next. Genuinely nobody should go through this. Those people who harass others because of a minor disagreement are scummy. There are so many better ways to show support to a community and those individuals chose the way that causes harm.
I definitely agree with your take on the "She was planning on graduating before this." If true, it means that the little time she had left she had to take a break from the harassment, knowing that would most likely mean less time away from her fans. We also don't know when the graduation was planned. it could've been in a month like it is now, or it could've been a few months down the line, but either her or the agency felt the need to shift it to an earlier date. At the end of the day, whilst you can't claim the harassment was the only reason for graduating, you also can't downplay the effects it had on her.
the most important thing when dealing with the twitter horde is to never, EVER, apologize. If you show one sign of weakness they will eat you alive and mock you while they do it.
Thank you. This video is exactly what I've tried to say on twitter in short before. However people who want to just fight are so focused on trying to see someone suffer, not actually trying to fix anything.
I don't know what compels people from all across the globe to go on the Internet and hate on someone they don't even know when they could do literally anything else like going out, learning how to play an instrument, reading a book, writing a book, eating a tasty meal, hanging out with their friends, meeting new friends, watching a movie, using the Internet to learn a new interesting thing, creating something, cleaning up their house, basically anything other than obssessing over an online stranger and trying to ruin their life over a video game.
They are anarchists. Hateful creatures that just live to hate. And because they are in a community that is heavily victimized, they do whatever they want, knowing that they won't be punished.
They mocked and laughed when it was niche. When comics became mainstream, they colonized it. When gaming became mainstream, they colonized it. When vtubers became mainstream, they are now colonizing it from every front. They are calling it cultural appropriation to attack those who built this community from the niche so that they can slot themselves into this position of power. They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny. This was not hate. This was calculated
Given Pikamee has stated before that Vtubing is the best time of her life, and how she was a bully victim as a child, I would guess that it was the harrassment that resulted in the descision to graduate which was probably made on her 3 week break.
It was her decision and was thought over for weeks, possibly months from what is coming out. Brutally honest here but 'changing her mind' is forcing her to return to something she no longer wants to do. The best we can do is to wish her the best in whatever she wants to do in the future, vtubing or not.
I've heard people say, "Well statements from VOMS project said she was going to graduate long in advance so the 'incident' didn't play a role at all in her decision to graduate" Discounting any hypotheticals, that is still no justification for bullying someone to tears and weeks of not working. There are no excuses for these bullies. Period.
"By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion. Remember, O Lord, The Children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem who said, 'Raze it, raze it, even to the foundation.' O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed. How happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Do you know what it means?"
I don't watch Pikamee, but I felt so bad that she quit her life as a Vtuber because of the harassment. This is just sad, She doesn't deserve this. She's just a light-hearted Vtuber who just wanted to play a game, and now she's graduating to get away from all of the bullying. Pikamee deserves a huge amount of love and support, not this. Everyone in the Vtuber community doesn't deserve to be bullied.
Those Twitterfreaks deserve the worst punishment imaginable, however I don't think Rowling deserves to get off Scott free either. As far as I'm concerned: she should be held responsible for causing this stupid political chaos that has affected the lives of so many innocent people who just wanted to have fun playing a fucking video game.
@@CrystalWings12 they controll the RL world now what do you mean? 99 percent of places you saying you dont think there wahmon even in the most polite way possible gets your thrown in jail like you just threw acid in someones fac.e
Yes, Pomu said that Pikamee told her she was quitting during her break. Based on the context though, I'm pretty sure that she meant the break after the harassment, not before. She just wanted to point out that she had known about it before the announcement. Lots of hololive members said similar things when Coco was quitting. I think it's just a way to be honest and clarify that you've had more time to think about it than everybody else. We don't know for sure, but unless one of them clarifies otherwise, that makes more sense.
If you think about it, "graduation" may be a coping term for escape for people who were bullied in high school. I wasn't necessarily bullied in my school or anything but there were lonely times when I couldn't wait for graduation to come so that I could get out of that hellhole. In this situation graduating might be a verbal tick some one says when they want to get out of a hostile situation and and it makes sense considering Pikamee's history of being bullied.
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I’m happy to see so much people supporting her after the insane people took out their anger on her
Hopefully she'll be back in some form. I watched some of her old content and she's cute. Very watchable.
yeah im glad fellow streamer is so wholesome about this
I am one who insane because twatters want her to resign from this
What's the point of that. She gone forever.
Imma bout to take my anger out on them, see how they like it
I wish everyone who bullied Pikamee a terrible rest of their lives.
I agree with Tenma on this one get the ropes for the bullies.
I virtually guarantee they are living miserable lives.
How do they be accountable of their actions when Twitter protects them? Besides bombarding their own accounts
@@luisiana1121 Accountability is an SJW/Cultural Marxist's kryptonite.
statistically speaking, about 50% of them won't live long anyway
I know the people that did this will never be ashamed of what they did but I hope karma comes around and bite them in the butt someday so that they’ll know how it feels to be so mistreated. Why can’t people just live and let live?
_“Thoughts and prayers”_
They do what they do because they know nobody is going to do anything about it.
Please do not stand idly by. The twitter freaks usernames are public. Please we need to right this wrong.
As long as people are cowards, nothing will happen.
We need to get rid of the root of the problem. Let all the b's t's l's and g's dangle from a tree branch to show them they are not the ones in power.
Otherwise, the next one is Silvervale, because cowards like you think they'll stop just because you won't stand up against them.
it will
in 20 years, when all of this is pure bullshit and seen as a dark time of the internet
someone is gona dig up their bullshit on the internet, and they gona get fired frm whatever mcdonalds work they have... and they gona cry and say they are sorry blablabla...
and it will be awesome
Reopen the asylums!
I don't respect bullies no matter their backgrounds. I only see people and actions not anything else.
You are the exact type of person they are trying to get rid of.
Fake Victim card is useless to people like Vectory. Good.
Some bullies can change with time, but judging by these Twitards, i don’t think it’s possible.
@@SweetOrangeGirl there is no redemption for these subhuman PoS.
@@jasoncartoI was going to say, they HATE that kind of talk because it strips away their protections and has people judging them based on actions instead of labels.
The people who throw Pikamee under the bus and deflect the fact that she's the victim try to instead claim that their favorite specific-group are the PRIMARY victims and PRIMARY focus, they use Pikamee to instigate conflict and gaslight people of a prejudice rather than say that Pikamee was 100% an innocent victim.
Those people need to be tazed.
And gassed with CS gas. And tarred and feathered.
@Dinner-Tongue Fork chill lol
As Tenma said on stream 'these people deserve the rope'.
@@Autechltd And God-willing most of them will get it, even if by their own hand. . .
When group identity becomes their primary identity instead of the individualism, you have tyranny. I never support anyone who who thinks the group identity is the most important thing ever. Tribalism is what it is and they can go to hell. I’m not even remotely interested of “finding a middle ground” because marxists will never try to find one. I’m just interested in completely destroying their ideologies into the ground by just opposing them and mocking them in every front
You'll forever live inside of our hearts, Pikamee. We will never ever forget you.
Lmao simp
@@MasterAlpha1000 Found the twitter user
@@thatemocat lmao get mad simp
Huh, hidden reply. Wonder who it is ;3
Thankfully, she's not dead or anything
Kson also experienced all what Pikamee had gone though in her previous life. I hope she taught Pika how to deal with those issues.
Can't say KSON reincarnated as she always did that on the side -in the same way the rest of Hololive's talents do- so, there's that.
But I do hope Pikamee does reincarnate, even if it is as an E-Girl.
That kettle laugh is my oxygen.
@@dylives7667 Covering that line, unironiclly highlights it
@@enju3588 Damn things that don't work as intended.
@@dylives7667 use * *between the sentence*
Coincidental that both got bullied for ideological stupid reasons (Kson with acknowledging Taiwan, Pikamee for playing "trans-offended" game).
To the “allies” who bullied Pikamee I wish thee unending and relentless misery. May you fail at every endeavor forever more and remember this single moment in life.
They aren’t real allies. All they do is make people like me and others in the LGBT community look bad. Real allies support us without bullying and threatening death on others.
That does nothing. They’re already wallowing in misery, trying to spread to as many people as possible.
They're allied to nobody but themselves.
Your wishes mean nothing, justice does not exist if people won't look for it.
The only way to keep this tragedy from happening again is to get rid of the root of the problem.
Let the b's t's g's and l's dangle all from a branch, that will stop them in their tracks, show that is the punishment for such actions.
But, as long as people are cowards that won't stand up for what is right, nothing will change, and the next one who knows who will be.
It might be Silvervale, sent to the afterlife by these freaks, will you wait and find that out?
@@jasoncarto doesnt matter. you cant be 100% nice, it isn't how the world works. it's why we are different. So I agree with them, they do deserve to fail, they do deserve every bit of karma
Let the world know.
Pikamee's graduation and what led to it, won't go unnoticed.
This is only the beginning, the first innocent victim.
It would be pretty funny if the actual war on the wokes started because of anime
@@ItIsGonnaGetWayWorse
We've had actual wars, deadass wars, start for less. And with public unrest as high as it is right now...
@@ItIsGonnaGetWayWorse Anime? That's a real person inside getting harassed for wanting to play a game
Exterminate the transformers
Imagine fighting for your rights and to not get bullied off the internet only for you to do the same thing to someone that did NOTHING to offend or hurt you. Hypocrisy, I tell you.
Pikamee was an INTERNATIONAL treasure, she deserves none of this, she just wanted to play games and have fun with chat.
We can only hope for the best for her now, let's make the most of her last month. Sasuga kettle, fly higher.
I keep asking myself, what rights don't they have that everyone else has? They don't want equal rights, they want special privileges.
Y’all know what to do. Vote. You know what for.
@@bakedturkeys2132 a good 1/3rd of the US gives no allowance to be trans, case in point Texas where hrt is essentially illegal and you can be sued for undergoing hrt
The biggest reason it'll be a tragedy is that they'll get away with it. They have too much support from society as a whole. They mocked and laughed when it was niche (comics, gaming, vtubers etc) but once it became popular they try to steal it... and they always succeed!
They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny. And they're going to get away with it.
Question. What rights or bullying did they experience that wasn't earned from their natural behavior? Answer. None, its a grift and always had been, their complaints of toxicity are regular internet conversations.
While this heartbreaking, it's also heartwarming to see all of Pikamee friends giving their support to her.
There is a reason why these harrasers are a disappointment to their parents, and its sad they do not see it. May their parents continue to be disappointed in them, and their achievements taken away as swiftly as they did to Pika. -_-
Exactly. They'd rather blame their parents for being "Transphobic" rather than accept they are in the wrong.
their just ugly and they want the rest of the world to be as ugly and unhappy as them
Honestly I don’t think all of them were automatically disappointments, I believe a lot of them are mentally disturbed due to IRL trauma from abuse and had the internet as the only safe space from school and family. Some of them turned out this way due to not having anything irl and they ended up getting influenced due to being a part of bad communities for so long. I myself wound up in a similar situation of having the internet as a safe space from irl (thankfully I’m doing better and have a life now) but I turned out good since I wasn’t in a toxic community like these people.
May their genitals feel the sting of a thousand fire ants.
@@yassin9782 cut the bs, the only "trauma" they have is self inflicted. They're mentally ill and belong in an insane asylum.
The fact is that they play the victim card. It makes my blood boils.
That's called vulnerable narcissism, and pointing that fact out is apparently transphobia.
Guess I'm a transphobe.
They always do. This is what happens when these group of anarchists are treated like victims and protected for no reason.
@@Alex-hj2jd hey dont group me into them
im an individualist too
If they want to be a victim so much, why not make them an actual victim IRL. You know, like sleeping with the fishes kind of victim.
@raynaldo arlen k.eman Good, slow and steady till the job is done
Even if she *was* about to quit, it's like throwing rocks into the house of someone who you later learn is moving away.
The bullies are going, 'Well she was moving away anyway, so us throwing the rocks wasn't the reason why she's leaving so shut up! Stop hating on us!'
THAT is the attitude that is still infuriating to so many people now. So those people trying to get on their high horse - no, you don't get to ride off into the sunset like nothing happened. I'd tell them to pray that some people don't make them that go through some 'Red - Redemption'.
They stole what should be a sweet moment and soured it with their hate.
Hope Pikamee takes this time to surround herself with a good supportive group and can find whatever she needs to get better. Hope her and her fans have a great month and hope yall have a wonderful day
(Late heart pls Hei?)
This keeps getting more heartbreaking, pikamee didn't deserve any of this crap.
No, she didn’t. But we allowed it to happen. We let these people run, amok, run rampant. All in the name of tolerance. How many more must be sacrifice before we learn?
Asmongold is 100% correct. It's absolutely appalling that, not only will they get away with it, but they are incentivised to do it again. However, we're caught in a catch 22. It infuriates me to see these trogoliditic bottom feeders gain anything but we can't force Pikamee to continue streaming, and nor do I want to force her to. I hate this situation but Pikamee wants to enjoy the last month so we should do everything we can to make it great.
I love Pika as my girlfriend and she has boing boing. (T-T)7
Although, I hope those who bullied her hear boss music start playing anytime they open their phone because they never deserve to enjoy the privileges of life again. I'm talking the second they open twitter they should hear the guardian music from BOTW start playing
There's only one solution. Embrace the Rumbling. Kick in their wall, Colossial Titan.
You can do something. You can have those bullies taste their own medicine.
If they do get away with it, it won't be painless. Almost the entirety of the Vtuber community and I think Japanese Twitter, alongside 4chan, have been ripping them a new one as retribution for Pikamee
'My girlfriend' lol. You know she is not only exclusive to you? Still, those bullies need to be taste their own medicine.
The people downplaying Pikamee's situation are just as bad as those twitter freaks. Even if she was going to graduate this certainly pushed the deadline closer, and didn't Kson say the bullying DID play a part in it? They're just trying to do damage control for their oh so caring "community"
I don’t think Pikamee being forced to graduate constitutes the same reaction of the Berlin Wall falling, Soviet Russia crumbling
@@tzu_nami berlin had nothing to do with me. But pikamme did. Just her going online, make my whole pandemic bearable.
@@tzu_nami Cope
@@tzu_nami worse has been done for less.
@@tzu_nami It's simply the adorable straw that has broken the camels back. for years now online communities have been bombarded by these mentally unwell freaks being forced to accept their retarded demands.
This whole situation was started over a wizard game...
Yep.
because of writer of the original story didn't agree with trans being in women sports which is fair arguement
A god damn wizard game she never fucking played!
@@treycat7629 it would be funny if a city or two got desecrated over this.
No... This always happens! They mocked and laughed when it was niche (comics, gaming, vtubers etc) but once it became popular they try to steal it... and they always succeed!
They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny. And they're going to get away with it.
11:53 - There were 'allies' AND trans people attacking her. I defended her in my community and even the small amount of harassers tried to attack me just for being mad at the situation. Of course, most of the people are kind and sympathetic to the situation.
Never expected Pomu to talk abt this
She a big Pikamee fan
Her crying was heartbreaking...
Never assume that all vtubers are total strangers to one another.
Her cry rlly just broke me, I’m done playing nice with Twitter now, it’s war now
@Crow [ Kindred Shinobi ] It was really, really hard hearing her cry. I just wanted to give her a big hug
I hate how all the gaming sites frame it with Headlines like "Pikamee leaves after Hogwarts Legacy Controversary". You know damn well if this was someone the journos cared about, say Anita Sarkeesian, and the harassers were an acceptable target they would've put "harassment" in the titles. Because the harassment group is a sacred cow that can't be criticized, they don't.
Never forget. Never forgive.
This is what happens when you don't gatekeep.
We gotta gatekeep harder.
We should have gatekeep anime harder.
Bingo. Sadly this has to be the mind set nowadays.
Sadly it's becoming more and more true, what used to be seen as toxic behavior now seems like a safety meassure
Gatekeeping kept all the weirdos and the lunatics from getting their hands on our politics. Now look, they've torn down "Bullying" and now we have so many Mentally Unwell people running amok!! Harassing anyone and anything that gets in their way. I agree, Gatekeeping should be reinforced, especially with all the stupid, attention seeking kids that get involved with bs like "My gender is Red! Yes the color, because I associate with it. My pronouns are Red-self/Redder!"
Note: Pomu says "her break." This could refer to either her January Mental health break OR the post-harassment break. VOMS even called her graduation a sudden thing, which would not be the case if it were planned a month or longer beforehand.
I despise how people are using this to justify the graduation by claiming that she was always going to, despite all evidence to the contrary.
VOMs said their announcement was sudden. Not the graduation or decision itself.
The people who bully usually ends up going in a horrible path while the person who got bullied use that opportunity to work, grind hard and become successful in life
Trust me those western bullies will either have a shitty life or they will die by either accidentally or health issues ....
Me: I miss the part where that's my problem
Most likely they already have a sh*tty life.
Edit: Well maybe one they find meaningless in a sense.
If pikamee sees this go indie and if the company sees this do not abuse copyright on people who are archiving the vods
don't worry about it, it's not a company, it's a dude, and he's very chill about it
@@CyberDrugaty i usually get worried about copyright in case someone wants to archive or do a video on something
Yeah VOMs is honestly more akin to Vshojo than it is Hololive or Nijisanji. I'm not sure if the VOMS project talents actually 'own' their characters tho.
@@The-Singularity-X01 they are owned by Gyari, but other than that VOMS talents are pretty much independent
@@og_3rd_st_saint_gat you're welcome. Oh and also, it seems she was the one that decided to put all of her content on private, saved for collabs of any kind.
Thanks to all this happening, I wish those harassers a Slow Painful Cruel Life
Honestly I'm just tired of this kind of negativity happening time and time again and it's always based around either LGBTQ or the trans community. It's mostly the trans community. This stuff is exhausting and ruins good things and I'm at the point where I just don't care about these groups anymore. They always do this crap. At this point they deserve all the hate they keep piling on themselves for not only allowing these people to represent them but not saying much of anything about it at all. They always get mad when people wanna stay out of politics saying stuff like "your silence says everything" yet don't hold up to that same philosophy when crap is coming from their own. Honestly hope there's huge consequences for this crap at some point. My sympathy and tolerance has run dry.
Exactly, they are just anarchists that intentionality ruin everything
Same here... I've been trying my best to not want to hate those groups for a while now. And when they do stuff like this, it just makes me feel like a rope in a game of tug of war...
Absolutely, the fact that they don't set themselves appart from all the shit that's being said 100% falls into the silence thing. And I hope it backfires for them. Just look at how horribly the feminist movement did, half of the people I know hate them because they are tired (me included), and for people like us this is just history repeating itself, many of those people I know went straight to hating on these new groups and mocking them because we all knew what was gonna happen, but people still let it happen. And it's always the most basic stuff that offends them, like games, movies, content creators... They say they are in for inclusion but then they have a historic movie where no one in the cast matches the race of the people that lived there and were part of the event. They say they are opressed, but have the power to end someone's career over something they "just did not like".
There is a quote I love from a comedian called Ricky Gervais that I think completely embodies how many of us feel:
“How arrogant are you that you think you deserve to go through life with no one ever saying anything that you don’t agree with or like?”
I feel this very same way. I get it started with good intentions, but it's gotten so corrupt. We gave them an inch, and they took a mile sort of fight.
Normal shouldn't look like: Everyone is Gay, Lesbian, Trans, or Painted with flag colors. Everyone has to know their labels. Everyone has to listen and obey everyone else's wishes without question, or else you are 100% in the wrong!
Normal should look like acceptance, not a take over. Being able to accept and speak about your Trans friends, or being Trans, or being Gay, Lesbian, Non-Binary, Whatever, and not be judged or hated on it. But they got exactly what they were trying not to get because they couldn't let anyone else have an opinion. *They* had to be the ones in the right, because only *They* know what is right or wrong.
Definitely share in that sentiment, since their activism is more counterintuitive rather than furthering their cause in the right way. And I definitely agree that they should keep radicalism in check rather than turn a blind eye to such obvious contradictions, since it just shows the whole movement as either inept and/or hypocritical, as this current boycotting fiasco has shown. Because once they cross the red then it’s a loss of respect towards their cause.
That bulling story reminded me.
A kid on next door classroom, when i was like 10 yo, got bullied because he liked DBZ. One day im coming back to the class and see this kid, quite small btw, throwing punches while two dudes, upperclass, try to defend themselves, while there's other 3 or 4 kids on the floor grabbing their faces.
They fucked around and found out.
ngl... I was the same, Hei. When I was a kid I got bullied a lot because I was half Thai-Chinese, but I snapped and beat the shit out of those people that bullied me. After that fight, no one wanted to bully me again because they knew that I will fought back. All I want to say is "Don't surrender to the bullies even tho you might lose".
It’s not about winning, it’s about sending a message
@@tzu_nami I might won the fight, but that's why I said "Don't surrender to the bullies even tho you might lose". My best friend got bullied a lot like me, but the different between us was that he never fought back. The bullies made he ended his life.
Nice. Where I am, fighting back gets you a bigger punishment than bullying. I also fought back and I didn't care about punushment because I know I did the right thing. People want you to be docile. Don't be what they want you to be.
@@Alex-hj2jd you know my mother does not like me fighting my bullies
but my uncle a true giga chad but is a chain smoker too he is still alive don't worry im still worry of his health
@@Alex-hj2jd You're just bad at it, simple ways in going against them is harrasment that only they know you did it but can't prove it was you and slow assassination of everything they love.
these 'allies' just gave their enemy plenty of ammunition
That story about the bullies trying to fight you and losing is so satisfying. I’ve always hated bullies even before I was bullied. It’s always funny to me when bullies talk big and act big but then they meet that one kid that makes them absolutely bite it. 😂
It breaks my heart to hear Pomu crying.
Twitter freaks fear The rope.
Good.
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🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
None of these hobbies were ever intended for ideological leftoids.
That's why they're late to the party.
Which is why their disdain and outrage is so palpable and observable within this compressed amount of time like the past half decade or so.
Because they're just discovering these hobbies for the first time and they're shocked by the landscape of true fans of these things and how it doesn't comport to their ideals and beliefs.
Anime and it's tangential hobbies embrace notions of humor, coolness, cohesive storytelling, compelling characters, strong characters, beautiful women, and overall fun.
All of which are antithetical to postmodernist leftoid values.
"Evil cannot create anything new; they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made."
Evil always starts on the left
Though this isn't even anime. They're just glorified streamers doing shit behind an anonymous persona.
It still doesn't change the fact though that what happened to Pikamee was arguably leagues worse than what happened to someone like ProJared. Pikamee didn't even commit to doing the Hogwarts stream, she got bullied off the internet for even just intending to play it. Like, at least with ProJared, we all thought he actually did something fucked up at first. That's not to say what happened to ProJared was justified either (we should've waited for all the facts from both sides), but Pikamee literally did nothing wrong.
This whole "guilty by association" horse shit is just getting incredibly out of hand on the internet. I just don't fully buy this idea that "everything is political" and that "buying Hogwarts Legacy supports the oppression of trans people", JK Rowling would've still kept sending fucking letters to congress regardless of whether or not we kept giving her money. If you really wanted to stop this sorta shit, pass federal laws to protect these sorts of rights.
Though at that point, we'd have to finally figure out shit like "should teens be allowed to undergo hormone therapy at an early age, or are they not emotionally mature enough yet?" Like, the entire reason people even still argue about this stuff (beyond just bigots wanting to make life hard for trans people) is because there are morally grey situations like that. If this discussion were so cut and dry, it wouldn't be so heavily politicized.
I say it once and I say it again gatekeeping is a good thing don't let these people destroy your hobby from the inside out
@@Unapologeticweeb Agreed! 100%
@@four-en-tee I actually agree with jk on some thing and the self I'd bill in Scotland was rife with abuse till the point even the UK struck it down
Be what or who you want to be
I just don't think children should be exposed to any sort of adult topic especially those of a sexual nature given they don't know what they are talking about and the whole idea of self I'd being easily abused by bad actors like grapists
what you do as an adult is your business tough if a consenting adults wants to use hormone blockers or a surgery that's up too them
So yes these are very big moral grey areas and it doesn't help that both sides scream at each other never engaging in a debate or dialogue of any kind
Losing her is like losing a teammate in the suicide mission in Mass Effect 2
And just like in the suicide mission, if people had made the right choices, it didn't have to happen.
@@oakleyraverty1030 The right choice was to strike against the abominations far earlier. People will still sit on their asses throught.
KSon especially is a good friend of Pikamee’s. I hope they’ll stay in touch.
She stayed in touch with rushia after what happened to her, Kson even took care of her for a bit until she got back on her feet so she will
God hearing Pomu crying is heart breaking
I love how Kotaku's already started to downplay the harrassment Pikamee got
How is Kotaku not bankrupt yet?
Well so did asmongold but people like him so it's okay.
"Not to brag or anything..." *Tells us of his mad skills*
Well, it is good to see that personal people to her are wishing her the best. I wish her the best as well.
I'm gonna miss Pikamee.
People who choose to make enemies out of something like a video game, are the ones who are truly miserable. Pikamee may be sad now. But she'll be happy and make others happy IRL, while these people will always be miserable
Wish Pikamee just the best. She is great.
Some of Asmongold's chat is disgusting...
Worth noting that Pikamee has been liking some tweets that blame the harassers for her graduation, maybe she was just considering graduation (interpreting what Pomu said) and the harassment was the final straw. Or else like you said, the harassers made it so that she couldn't be with us for as long as she would've liked due to the sudden hiatus after the harassment.
Man, hearing Pomu cry just opened up the wound again of Pikamee leaving.
I don't believe that this was planned by Pikamee at all, and if it was, the harrassment accelerated the process or solidified her resolve to leave.
Multiple people including Silver and Pomu stated she did plan it, though nobody states how recently. VOMS also released a statement on Pikamee's "sudden graduation announcement." She also talked about her plans for the year in the New Years stream. She likely was planning on leaving, but things were accelerated by the bullying.
@@azjugallo if it was planned why did she break down about it? This is clearly damage control from them so they don't try and fan the flames and make it so hate toward THAT community doesn't grow larger.
@@404Kiwi no pikamee graduation was planned way later after that
Pikamee should not quit she is letting these loser freaks win by doing this.
It's probably for other reasons as well, Pomu mentions that she knew about it in advance.
She's already being bullied in Japan for being half Japanese so she reaching out to the Kaigai Niki thinking that they won't ever do that to her.Her mental state can't withstand those freak's actions for long so she's accelerated her graduation date.
@Kira Let's hope her mental state are strong enough and have good friends helping her from retreating Into herself and resort to something worse.
I know how it feels too be bullied
It's not fun all tough my bullies stopped after a certain event I went to prison for let's so say I pushed it way to far and turned it from a fight into assault bully hospitalized me in jail
But bullying isn't fun and someone with pikamees personality type
Incredibly friendly and wholesome people like pikamees have a tendency to break rather easily
So yes this sucks
Everything alright?
I been following this on the side lines. I feel bad for the Trans that say "I want to apologize on behalf of my community." Since we know they didn't do anything. The ones that said "Harassment is not okay BUT." Harassed her and Silver and they have the audacity to say that.
Harassment is never ok; PERIOD. As a member of the community, I hate it when people use us to push their hatred and bullying on others. Especially if they did nothing wrong. They aren’t even allies, just trolls who want to make the world a living hell for the fun of it.
It's not like trans people were involved in whatever stupid shit this is. It's just another false flag piece of shit so whiny conservatives can have more excuses to torture and murder.
Granted, it's also shitty of anyone to play 'Let's kill jews with magic: The Videogame' and give a ton of money to someone pushing for the death of minors, but that's the world we're in.
@@Shimazu_Nobushige they’re parasites upon society…
I just hope the people that tried to justify the harassment of Pikamee, Silvermane, and others realize that by doing so, they've put themselves in a position so that if THEY get harassed and bullied, people can simply say "Well, you deserved it." They don't get to whine and cry and complain if they get harassed, because they were fine with it being done to someone else.
Apologies cant do shit. They should at least know who did these and publicly call them out instead of victim blaming after all the shit they pulled. All they did was watch on the sidelines while their radicals did the harassing. If anything theyre part of the problem since they should know it could lead to this but did nothing.
"We were just standing up for our right to exist!"
Yeah. By making people wish you didn't.
It is sad, how dare they push someone out of a hobby they enjoy. A hobby in which affects no one.
In my opinion I felt that pikamee was was definetly slowing down but if she was gonna graduate I don't think it would have been March maybe spring time a time where new beginnings come around, so I do think that the hogwarts legacy definetly affected the timing of the graduation
Just for a game people bully someone. That is very low. Pikamee showed energy and joy in her streams and that is very hard showing those emotions. And because of her streams and clips made me smile and forget my worries. I hate the people who bullied her to the core and cannot forgive them
The small segment about martial arts got me thinking about it... I always thought why couldn't I get engaged with any kind of martial art in life, even tho I'm aware of it's benefits. But. After listening to this I could understand that what I'm lacking is passion, so now I can accept not being interested on it as it isn't just because I'm lazy or afraid of getting hurt or anything like that, so thanks for sharing that with us ☺️
To those who don't know why the Pikamee graduation is so big its because she was a BIG person in the Vtuber world and loved by everyone, she was one of the most wholesome person to exist, she was a main source of entertainment and relax to us and we all are in grief for this
Edit: please don't use my comment to start hate or making bad comments, of course I'm mad but Pikamee wouldn't want hate to be spread and also there's no just persons from one community or the other its a group of shit persons that have all kind of people with different identities not just trans, I already let my anger let yesterday in many sites and I realize that's not gonna fix anything no one ever has changed by attacking them, now we all need to do is support her in what little time we have left with her, drown the hate with the love we will show her
and depressing to see them deny and or downplay situations and happenings
in their own echo chambers for easy likes
or
even comments as a vtuber with thousands of followers pretend never heard of pikamee before
Stop being depressed and start being angry. Make sure this never happens again.
Lets not forget who took her from us, dont let anyone shift the blame, I don't even care anymore, Pikamee was the only Vtuber I genuinely loved from the bottom of my heart, she was very different from others, I'm not a simp, i just really enjoy her contents because of her personality, I can't even count the amount of times Pikamee's videos managed to save from depression , she seriously became my therapist. *THAT* community that harassed pikamee will surely have to pay for this. I wont mention what community because RUclips and Twitter protects the hell of those sh*t sacks
Love was lost the moment pikamee disappeared
Too late, if let this pass, who will be next?
Time for retaliation.
lmao those people harassed her just because she wanted to play hogwarts legacy. those people had no feelings and so dumb fr.
Look at all the suffering they've caused. But remember people... they're the "good guys" in all this
I never cared about V-Tubers but I know they make a lot of people happy. And they took away someone's happiness. I'll never forgive them on that.
Really hope Kson helps her out with her career after her graduation.
Pikamee at least deserves to be able to continue her streams under some new Vtuber identity or something.
@DylanVsTheWorld it could be but at the same time if she was vshojo JP. Kson would back her up to the fullest
@DylanVsTheWorld I meant in the terms of physical support if she lives in the same apartment where kson lives
I'm having PTSD flashbacks from cocos graduation. I want to say angry things that would get me removed from the internet.
Thing is, kson made that clip right after speaking to pikamee who is her friend, and all kson talked about was bullying. So how they gonna try to say it wasn't about the bullying? Also, when pomu mentions talking to pikamee about graduation "before her break". Pika had 2 breaks. A long hiatus for health reasons, then a 3 week break after the bullying.
well there's Gyari's comments on it literally saying her graduating wasn't a response to this and that it's been planned for a long time, but that doesn't get as many clicks I guess
@@tjingram93 ah yes because companies NEVER pretend the situation was pefectly normal every time someone quits or leave the company in order to avoid fincial or social damage NEVER.
@Crossbowflex With all due respect I think you swallowed the damage control campaign whole
As someone who was bullied close to suicide 3 times I'm really sorry to hear she's leaving. She didn't deserve any of this
Look deep within. You have inner strength. Believe in your own capacity and the support of family & loved ones or whoever you still have. Keep fighting the good fight, and don't let people like these human cockroaches dogpile you. They hit you, you hit them back. Harder.
That's all I can say. Your life matters. Don't waste it by ending it prematurely. A fatal mistake you could never take back, and it only leaves your surviving loved ones with needless sorrow. If anyone deserves to be rid from the earth, it's the twitter-freak bullies, with their obnoxious self-entitled righteousness & holier-than-thou narcissism.
People who harass her need to be taken out to the back and taught a lesson.
We should invest in 'self defense'.
Stolen comment from oppai sama
Kson knows exactly what it feels like. Good to see her take on it.
real sad announcement
I've met too many trans people against the game, and people playing it, to believe that it was just 'trans allies' who were harassing her. this might be a controversial take, but the sooner we stop deflecting the blame off of them, the better. because doing that is exactly what got it to being this bad.
I've seen just the same. Trans people hating on others just like anyone else. They aren't special, in the end, they are human just like everyone else.
I don't think real trans people want to identify as trans, because they want to 'pass'. You're right, it's not just the allies... it's the fucking self-identifying group who have been doing it for social credit score.
They mocked and laughed when it was niche.
When comics became mainstream, they colonized it.
When gaming became mainstream, they colonized it.
When vtubers became mainstream, they are now colonizing it from every front. They are calling it cultural appropriation to attack those who built this community from the niche so that they can slot themselves into this position of power.
They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny.
I was personally friends with a few of the larger trans vtweeters who kicked off and perpetuated the brigading against silver and pikamee. They are trans- not allies. They fed the ongoing hostility and continue to feed it now. They're actually deranged. (And now that it's women's history month, there's a whole new topic where they can claim trans hate over)
My only worries is that I am seeing so many people on twitter generalizing the ENTIRE trans community that they are to blame for it, and I have been seeing a surprising amount of people say some very filthy things about it, I understand the anger and it's fine to be angry but I worry that innocent people are just going to be harmed out of this Just like what happened to Pikamee, and I know that's not what Pikamee wants.
This entire situation is just frustrating and depressing for me, I loved Pikamee, and I have many trans friends, and I worry for them because of this happening and I worry for the burden Pikamee has to deal with here.
Men playing pretend are not the victims
This is so true...before this whole incident, i was never afraid of letting it known i am trans since i didn't have much reason to be ashamed or afraid...However now i am afraid of making comments like the one you made because i was alredy harassed irl because of it...
Worst part: What proof is there that the peope harassing Pikamee were truly trans/allies and not people trying to both ruin a Vtuber AND redirect hatred towards the trans community?
@@MizuEna-BiggestFan tons of proof. But sounds like you chose the losing side already
@@0Asterite0 What do you mean by "Chose the losing side"?
@@MizuEna-BiggestFan well as things are there has been pushback against the transphobic nonsense and pikamee is still as positive as ever. It's thankfully getting better.
If anything this just teaches us all that Twitter truly is full of awful people that got nothing better to do except harass and harm. No matter the side.
Hero hei fighting his bully and winning is a great story. Increased my respect for the guy
Sure, shame it didn't happen though.
The weird thing about bullies is that they never see what they do as bullying.
Pomu seems like a good friend to have.
I loved her MGR play but did not pay much attention besides.
Now I think it might be worth to follow her channel.
Same here. She only appeared on my radar because I was also watching vtubers play MGR.
pikamee was my first vtuber experiance, its makes me sad to see bullies, i hope the real world person behind pikamee is safe and there isnt a threat to life. (having been there before, its hard)
Patience has its limits
And that damn rainbow and the aphabet is pushing my tolerance limit :D
I'm hoping for people to really start calling this stuff out. This victimization of the alphabet and transformers has to end.
@@cgaminganims7046 Violence breed Violence, but it has to be this way if things got out of hand way too far.
Don’t take this as representative of the entire LGBTQ community. That’ll just lead to more of this madness. (In fact, one could argue that that’s precisely what the Twitter Morons were doing by attacking anyone who played the game.) What you _should_ be mad at are flamers, trolls, cyberbullies, and everyone else who uses the internet as a means to spread hostility.
Omg pomu crying actually broke me. hope the future is blessed for Pikamee
I hope Pikamee is the best in whatever she does next. Genuinely nobody should go through this.
Those people who harass others because of a minor disagreement are scummy. There are so many better ways to show support to a community and those individuals chose the way that causes harm.
I definitely agree with your take on the "She was planning on graduating before this."
If true, it means that the little time she had left she had to take a break from the harassment, knowing that would most likely mean less time away from her fans. We also don't know when the graduation was planned. it could've been in a month like it is now, or it could've been a few months down the line, but either her or the agency felt the need to shift it to an earlier date.
At the end of the day, whilst you can't claim the harassment was the only reason for graduating, you also can't downplay the effects it had on her.
That pomu clip was hard to watch and very heartbreaking
the most important thing when dealing with the twitter horde is to never, EVER, apologize. If you show one sign of weakness they will eat you alive and mock you while they do it.
We fail to protect another smile boys
Remember what they took from you
You will be miss pikame
Thank you. This video is exactly what I've tried to say on twitter in short before. However people who want to just fight are so focused on trying to see someone suffer, not actually trying to fix anything.
I don't know what compels people from all across the globe to go on the Internet and hate on someone they don't even know when they could do literally anything else like going out, learning how to play an instrument, reading a book, writing a book, eating a tasty meal, hanging out with their friends, meeting new friends, watching a movie, using the Internet to learn a new interesting thing, creating something, cleaning up their house, basically anything other than obssessing over an online stranger and trying to ruin their life over a video game.
They are anarchists. Hateful creatures that just live to hate. And because they are in a community that is heavily victimized, they do whatever they want, knowing that they won't be punished.
They mocked and laughed when it was niche.
When comics became mainstream, they colonized it.
When gaming became mainstream, they colonized it.
When vtubers became mainstream, they are now colonizing it from every front. They are calling it cultural appropriation to attack those who built this community from the niche so that they can slot themselves into this position of power.
They made pikamee cry so they could earn a fucking penny. This was not hate. This was calculated
Given Pikamee has stated before that Vtubing is the best time of her life, and how she was a bully victim as a child, I would guess that it was the harrassment that resulted in the descision to graduate which was probably made on her 3 week break.
Never forget, Daffy Duck served in the U.S marines and saved Bugs Bunny from an Albanian prison
Based
Not only was he a US Marine, but MARSOC
Petition to change her mind to stay and we must protect her from Twitter freak
It's better to just let them go then continue seeing them being in pain
@@luismedina5792 maybe your right
It was her decision and was thought over for weeks, possibly months from what is coming out. Brutally honest here but 'changing her mind' is forcing her to return to something she no longer wants to do. The best we can do is to wish her the best in whatever she wants to do in the future, vtubing or not.
The people that went after pikamee are not human. They are simply monsters.
No, they’re still human. This is what humans are capable of, and forgetting that is precisely what leads to stuff like this happening.
if i have a dollar for every time there's a pointless harassment in social media, i would've been a millionaire
This situation is just pure insanity. For some reason it also seems it won't end anytime soon.
The oppressed always become the greatest oppressors
I've heard people say, "Well statements from VOMS project said she was going to graduate long in advance so the 'incident' didn't play a role at all in her decision to graduate"
Discounting any hypotheticals, that is still no justification for bullying someone to tears and weeks of not working. There are no excuses for these bullies. Period.
"By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion. Remember, O Lord, The Children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem who said, 'Raze it, raze it, even to the foundation.' O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed. How happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
Do you know what it means?"
Unfortunately, people are using this to downplay a lot of the harassment she received by claiming "She was going to graduate anyway"
Now we know why Muggles aren't well regarded in the Wizardry World.
With only some exceptions, but yeah the wizards never really like the muggles that much.
I don't watch Pikamee, but I felt so bad that she quit her life as a Vtuber because of the harassment. This is just sad, She doesn't deserve this. She's just a light-hearted Vtuber who just wanted to play a game, and now she's graduating to get away from all of the bullying. Pikamee deserves a huge amount of love and support, not this. Everyone in the Vtuber community doesn't deserve to be bullied.
Those Twitterfreaks deserve the worst punishment imaginable, however I don't think Rowling deserves to get off Scott free either. As far as I'm concerned: she should be held responsible for causing this stupid political chaos that has affected the lives of so many innocent people who just wanted to have fun playing a fucking video game.
Stay strong in suffering. We will win.
The keyboard warriors shall never achieve their victory. *The evil most be purged.*
@@CrystalWings12 they controll the RL world now what do you mean?
99 percent of places you saying you dont think there wahmon even in the most polite way possible gets your thrown in jail like you just threw acid in someones fac.e
@@housewilma4904 Don't take it too seriously. Chill.
@@CrystalWings12 its just hard to pretend to find this shitte situation we are all in funny anymore.
very very bitter right now.
Yes, Pomu said that Pikamee told her she was quitting during her break. Based on the context though, I'm pretty sure that she meant the break after the harassment, not before. She just wanted to point out that she had known about it before the announcement. Lots of hololive members said similar things when Coco was quitting. I think it's just a way to be honest and clarify that you've had more time to think about it than everybody else. We don't know for sure, but unless one of them clarifies otherwise, that makes more sense.
If you think about it, "graduation" may be a coping term for escape for people who were bullied in high school. I wasn't necessarily bullied in my school or anything but there were lonely times when I couldn't wait for graduation to come so that I could get out of that hellhole. In this situation graduating might be a verbal tick some one says when they want to get out of a hostile situation and and it makes sense considering Pikamee's history of being bullied.