Im honestly so tired of hearing people say they feel "unsafe in X community" You know what I do if I feel unsafe or unwelcome in a streamer's chat/community? I unfollow, close the tab, leave the discord, and move on with my life. It REALLY is not that big of a deal. People are acting like a streamer's chat/community is their local town they live in and that they can no longer leave the house without feeling unsafe. Pure mental illness.
I always do the same as well. Unfortunately, we live in a time period where almost everybody (especially from younger gens) want to make themselves seen and heard, even in situations where its not called for
People really treat everywhere they go like their own house. Their parents probably coddled them a ton growing up, now they expect everyone else to do the same
@@613-shadow9 That's what I was going to say. Unsafe means your physical integrity is under jeopardy. Being in disagreement with a random person online has nothing to do with being unsafe, at most you could say you're not welcome at X community.
YOU GOTTA DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND, DUDE. YOU GOTTA MAKE A STATEMENT. YOU GOTTA LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND SAY, "WHAT AM I WILLING TO PUT UP WITH TODAY?? *_NOT FUCKING THIS_*"
"act like an adult and I'll treat you like one" they say lmfao the self-projection is strong with this one. Also we all know that what they really mean by "bad-faith arguments". It's actually "any good argument against my flawed viewpoint", there's no way in hell they'll actually want to hear out anyone that doesn't parrot their stance.
The problem with the concept of a Utopia as we use it is that it stemmed out of Victorian era philosophy that assumed an inherent goodness to humanity. You could strive for utopia because all you had to do was get rid of the bad guys and things would get better. It's an old lie, but an effective one. All the worst ideologies of the last century had their origins in it. Things are bad? It's not your fault, it's the fault of X group so we must "deal" with them to make things better. The original concept is actually older, but it got supplanted by that ideology in the 1800s. Nobody uses the word Utopia in the way that it's original creator in the 1600s did where it meant what it directly translates as "no place" or in other words, a fictional society. *Better* was not tied to it for centuries afterward.
There's something really satisfying about seeing narcissist cowards being shown that the world doesn't revolve around them. Personally i think that the Hogwarts Legacy arc of your channel has been the most entertaining.
They are barging into people's stream with the sole intent to harass and they are outraged when they get modded out. Two can play that game and the streamer can win before you even play your cards. This is idiotic. These people are like 90% American.
It is incredibly satisfying that Silvervale had the balls to stand against those vomit bags and showed them the middle finger by still merrily streaming the game. It's depressing that the damage was still done. Pikamee's stream is not happening, and she's still missing in action as of now.
@@GeneratedPerson they think they are so much better when they're all just cowards. They'll all duck behind their screens with no consequence or as it seems. they'll fall they'll fight they'll cry and they'll scream.
Ya idk how people don't realize this person isn't sending that in good faith and only want trouble. Just because you can say stuff it doesn't mean it won't be frowned upon and ignored or removed. You have freedom of speech but that doesn't mean people have to listen or read it and acknowledge it because you want them to.
@@lingroire2556 They literally went there just to attempt to harass them. Then get surprised the auto-filter caught them at their own game before they could even get past step 0.5 *surprised pikachu face*
I find it hilarious how many times people try this, yet it fails every time. Somehow they don't understand that vtuber agencies aren't firing talents for reasons that petty.
They can't think any higher than petty. Skinheads, black supremacists, toxic rainbows, every clique of subyooman trash is like that. (hope this doesn't get SB'd)
They seem to not realize V-tubing follows a more rational, non-american way of doing things. Unlike companies in the US (mainly big tech and Hollywood), claims of someone being xphobic aren't enough to warrant firing unless there is proper evidence and the backlash against that person is hurting their income or public image. Some petty bullshit like playing the wizard game probably isn't enough to get you fired in any company anyway
I feel bad for you guys, like, the Trans people that just want to live a happy life and don't care about dumb stuff like streaming a game. I bet a lot of people are gonna use the actions of this stupid loud minority to attack good people like you that had nothing to do with it. Those idiots caused too much harm and absolutely no good by being assholes.
Yes... that's the funny thing... Vshojo is a talent first group. Meaning Silvervale owns her character, her channels and all her social media profiles. Even if for some Godforsaken reason she was fired for playing Wizard Game, she'd still be around as Silvervale lmao
@@Zerovin yes, the only three members who debuted their current Vtuber identity within the company are Froot, Hime Hajime and Nazuna. Everyone else was already around as indies, often for several years.
@@lingroire2556 It's more of a combined publishing union among artists. They combine so they can group negotiate stuff like sponsorships and events etc, but in the end are still just each contracted people. Even if Silvervale were to be removed, they would still be free to go independent or join any other company to work with.
I'm trans, and I wanna say I'm sorry for that part of the group. I got harassed and blocked by someone I thought was a friend when I just tried to understand their reasoning for supporting people who doxxed and threatened people who played hogwarts legacy. My group and I did find it hilarious that she blocked me after I mentioned things that were more related to her that they should cancel, but didn't. But yeah, all I asked was "what about people who support trans rights, but grew up loving Harry Potter? Or those who bought it and are using it to raise money for trans charities?" She didn't like that in the slightest. After she blocked me, she began getting messages from an account with a similar username to mine which started insulting her. So... wether that's a troll or her trying to make me look worse by using a fake account, I don't know. But still, as a trans woman who's playing the game, I say go ham and don't let those idiots slow you down!
What a dumb thing to lose a friend over. I'm sorry you had to find out about them like that, but based on how they sound it was probably always going to happen eventually.
You should feel happy and blessed. That so called "friend" of yours would've backstabbed you sooner or later. She exposed herself and decided to throw you away. A loss on her end but a victory and experience on your end. You deserve better afterall.
If she stopped being friends with you over something like that, then she probably wasn't really your friend in the first place, so its her loss and all the better for you.
@@fishbiter9409 Nope. Many people that do this aren't even trans themselves. It's a minority but a loud minority that's why you see them more. Those of us that are more sensible don't scream like a toddler in the middle of a store over nothing.
I’m so happy that Silvervale is better now and stood up for herself. I'm just glad that it doesnt seem to have made her bitter, seeing such a wholesome soul break down like that made me so fricken angry.
she did say she'll be taking some time off during that stream, dont know if it's true or not. but yeah it's a good thing she managed to bounce back after that attack, and as for those haters those people needs to get punished in the most humiliating way.
I don't really watch vtubers but I agree with this. It's not okay to harass people, especially over a game. Like the game does not always dictate the type of person playing it. But considering it is twitter the degeneracy doesn't shock me and I've numbed to hearing twitter doing dumb shit.
That person felt unsafe? In the comfort of their home, saw this Vtuber play a game, had nothing to do with them and they felt unsafe? While they're the ones attacking Silver, tryna get her fired? Okay, alright.
The most fitting line. However they forget if VShojo fired her, in theory, ot would be as if nothing happened because their business model would mean she would be back to indie, but still with her business contacts. She could even win
Vshoujo is well known for making bad decisions, so if anything is to be loved it's that they aren't saying much of anything. Silvervale would probably be canned instantly if they did open their dumb mouth to say something. Not that this would hurt her particularly much outside of whatever mental damage that'd do.
There will be times where people think they are right, but they are wrong. They are blinded by the fact that they can say words and will gain clout over it. I saw some comments in the twitter profiles claiming they are Vtubers/PNGtuvbrs etc. They chose to go against Silvervale in order to gain clout, which is disgusting. Im just happy that the game is getting more publicity making the haters, look like idiots.
The funny thing they're still focusing on Silver ignoring the dozens of people that have been playing or finished. They focused her because they know her which is sad, backstabbing ass mooks
I love how that hate reply basically incapsulates twitter as a whole; -plays the victim -tries to get someone cancelled in every instance -did not even take 2 seconds to look up that the fact they spouted has been debunked -lies to prove a point I love seeing seething twitter users, they brighten up my day so much
Imagine how empty your life must be that you decide to try and ruin someone because she played a video game based on a wizard book written by someone who said something you don't like. Bonus points because you can't even come close to accurately quoting the thing she said that you don't like and whenever you are asked you just yell "DO YOUR RESEARCH" and then you run away as quickly as your pudgy little legs can carry you.
Someone needs to remind these fools that asking the upset person what it is that has upset them IS doing your research. You are literally asking the affected person about it. We don't just magically know without asking.
These people would have doctors fired if they don't do everything they tell them to. They do not care, they do not want to help, they will destroy, and claim they have saved. It's genuinely disturbing the kind of mindset they have.
Silvervale at this point needs to meet with other content creators and streamers to get all the names of those who have harassed these streamers, compile a script with all those names that works very much the same way as the one JSchlatt used to mass ban the Dream Stans, and execute the script.
The fact that "call them out but don't bully someone" got hid says everything you need to know about that OP jfc people justifying literally harassing others and not even just for sick kicks they'll feel guilty about later like they think it's some righteous moral mission to tell someone to off themselves... we've passed disgusting and wayyy passed stupid, this is actually terrifying people truly believe that pushing people into psychotic breaks is a good thing to do all for playing a freaking video game they don't want to support
I'm sure these crazies on twitter are gonna bash her for a long time cause there just that petty, silvers comeback stream was legendary and hearing her tell off twitter was a breathe of fresh air and more people need to do this, was really cool to hear her say one of asmongolds quotes to, much love to silver.
@@thefrozenshadowking From what I've seen, most Twitter "activists" are typically upper middle class, white college kids, usually female with Borderline Personality Disorder and *severe* daddy issues. While the males often end up getting exposed as sexual predators. They're not good people. They're not even somewhat decent people. They're terrible people who have no real power and nothing going on in their lives. They're also generally miserable, with self diagnosed mental illnesses galore. While their real mental illnesses go undiagnosed and untreated. These are people that deserve to be marginalized and shunned by society, because they've proven time and again that all they're capable of is making life worse for everyone, especially those they' claim to speak for. (though, really are just speaking *over*) Misery loves company, and they do their best to drag everyone down into their pit of hatred and despair. They're the main reason why I think that asylums should be brought back.
They act like characters from Harry Potter: "Don't say You-Know-Who's name! They played You-Know-What!" "DID YOU PLAY THE WIZARD GAME?!?!" -Twitter said calmly.
I saw that tweet where someone went in to type that out in silver's chat. You'll notice they aren't even following silver they've just been obsessively waiting for their moment to type that out, essentially to bring up drama and break chat rules.
The so called "vtweeters" are some of the most obnoxious people I've ever seen. They're so insanely jealous and resentful towards all the successful vtubers and will do anything in their power to drag them down.
I saw a tweet from a twitter user named "Seppy The Seal" about how it was horrible that she continued to play the game. She is a vtuber who streams 2-4 hours every other day, yet he streams only get double digit views. her official RUclips channel only has double digit subscribers, her vods and clips only get single and double digit views. she is hyperactive on Twitter... all signs that her hateful and ignorant post about Silvervale was not a once off. imagine how hard it is to get those kinda numbers with as often she is online engaging her audience. put it this way... this video we just watch got more views than ALL of her RUclips and Twitch videos combined
@@matthewgiese7811 Instead of wasting her time on Twitter, she should use that time for ther streams and be more entertaining. People watch streams to get entertained and escape reality, not snap back to reality and get bored.
@@matthewgiese7811 I dated a vtuber once (or, the person behind the character rather) and I shit you not, all the small time vtubers have the same personality. I don't mean that as in, they have the same personality irl, just that their online personas are pointlessly identical.The vast majority of them are just watered down versions of the big ones. Whenever I see a clip from any of those big brands like Hololive, it just solidifies how massive the gap between most of the small time vtubers and the successful ones really is.
@@JoCaTen Companies can make stupid choices and listen to what stupid people like these twitter users say before ever even looking into the matter, it has happened before, and will continue to happen on occasion.
Silvervale can be a loose cannon on how she reacts to things, but at least she is able to endure them, rather then completely breaking down and giving up.
It shows a real disconnect from reality. No one is on your side. We are with Silver and other content creators who have been bullied. Hell, I don't even like Harry Potter and I almost downloaded the game out of spite.
This whole situation is just sad and pathetic. All of the problems in the world and their main concern are a video game. I'm glad to hear she is taking a break from Twitter though she doesn't need that crap.
In the past you never saw these people because no one gave them the time of day so they were in the background grumbling to themselves. Since getting a means to make themselves heard and having people actually give them attention and even supporting what they say it fueled them into overdrive and now that things are going back, admittedly slowly, to them being ignored they are kicking and screaming on every issue they can to try to keep that power and attention.
Glad to see that she is pushing back and calling them out. This game has really showed everyone just how horrible these people can be and just how hateful all because someone plays a video game. This is what needs to happen though. People have to stop apologizing to the cult and push back against them. They will take everything if people constantly bow to them. Hopefully more people will start standing up for themselves and others after all of this.
That's exactly why these kinds of people don't deserve any sympathy they will literally try to destroy your life for having different thoughts than them.
That’s provided they even have those beliefs. I guarantee that most of these ppl have never defended trans ppl and won’t in the future. It’s just outrage culture at its finest
@@beanieteamie7435 It's too late to play the victim, y'all HAD all the time the world to call them out. What stopped you guys from doing that? I mean, you accomplished things like accepting gay marriage so what was stopping y'all?
@@HUNKZER0 maybe to an extent, especially how all this started from a video game. But I still worry about Pikamee. That aside, let's just hope this drama eventually dies down.
I don't get why this is so hard for some people to understand. When you harass and threaten someone for playing a videogame, YOU are the bad guy. Not them, YOU.
WHAT ?! Did that fkin' cheating sloot tried to egg on the mob to attack Silver ? Can you provide any sources to this, or something? I don't have Twitter since I deleted it long ago and can't seem to find anything else about that.
SO BY THEIR LOGIC they believe that if you buy or use something someone creates than you must share the same opinion as the creator. I would hope these people understand how stupid that is. For example every time they turn their PC or laptop on. They must agree it's fine for certain manufacturer's to abuse their workforce OR that when they watch a film they're totally ok with the film staff assaulting other film staff. I think I've seen goldfish with more brain power than they have.
I don't think many people's brain cells will every truly recover from the knowledge that all of this "drama" that caused twitter to have a meltdown was caused by a Harry Potter video game.
Only reason she broke down was cause she was backed into a corner and didn’t have time to process her feelings. Once she gave herself some time to process her feelings and think, she clapped back and clapped hard
"Feel unsafe." And? Sounds like a personal problem whenever they throw around this phrase disingenuously. Honestly starting to get up there on the list of annoying things to hear next to "Offended" and "Cancel". Like the boy that cried wolf. It's just sad really.
Twitter. Stop. Please. The further you go about this, the deeper your own grave gets. Please, just leave well enough alone already and save whatever tiny shreds of dignity you have left. You can't win this fight.
Yeah that was definitely angry typing. The kind of typing that they intentionally raise their fingers overly high over the keys, so they can hit the keys as hard as their weak little fingers can muster.
The thing is, kids are more adult... a lot of the time, except for the times they're exactly like this. And adults... just have fewer times they're exactly like this simply because there's more distractions caused by the need for continued survival. What we're seeing is everybody having a bad or troll moment seeing the same potential target. And this isn't the schoolyard; most of this type of bullying is the kind where just ignoring the bullies is the most practical option.
Even if Silvervale did delete the word "Trans" from her chat, (she didn't btw, the Twitch bot did) who cares? I'm so tired of chronically online idiots thinking that hurting their feelings is equivalent to mass murder or a war crime.
I like how these people harm the cause they supposedly fight for. Because they make this community they supposedly care about look like a bunch of psychotic creeps. Especially that community at large seems to be defeaningly silent about this crap. And from there, some people will draw some nasty conclusions that will bite the alphabet community hard.
There are some internet drama events that sometimes just don't go away, like how the youtube staff deemed a criminal innocent despite what he has been doing.
@@moisesezequielgutierrez The second one yeah, its disgusting that RUclips let him go despite all the proof being shoved right in thier faces. Though I do not know about that first one. Either way, some drama events just don't go away, they linger and keep coming back like a disease.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 About the CoryxKenshin one... I don't know how to explain this but look up his video called *_RUclips: R4c1sm and F4v0r1t1sm_* (I censored the words) Basically the same Corruption energy that modern RUclips emits *but* in a different case: _Favoritism_
@@moisesezequielgutierrez Oooooohhh I think I might remember that one, that event really ticked off a lot of people, it was over that horror game right? or at least a scene in it?
Many think that the girls are actually the real bosses and the Vshojo staff is there to support them of course we will never know the facts but if any of that is true this is like asking you to fire your boss, and also there's the "Talent Freedom" that is basically letting them stream and do what they want, the Nazuna issue surprised me thought when they forbid her to stream HL Also remember that Vshojo has 11 members and losing even one would be a hit to them
Silvervale is really popular and all they're doing right now is signal boosting her. Even if she was stressed out about it this has only drawn more attention to her, I gaurantee people have donated to her out of spite to the haters just like people bought HL out of spite. It would be insanely stupid for them to drop her
A few of the talents are their bosses, particularly Nyanners and melody, both of whom seem to really dislike the Japanese aspects of the medium they inhabit.
The mental health and safety of the talent is above everything, even above "Talent Freedom". If Vshojo prohibited Nazuna to play the wizard game in order to protect her from the backslash and irrational hate then it was a good decision.
@@bondrewdthenovel3598 except I don't believe it's for her mental health I think they got afraid of the backlash and don't want more problems, Silver already is playing it and she apparently don't care anymore about those fuckers but Nazuna playing probably would restart all this again so no more HL. But again unless they come and say the reason outright we will never know so it's all speculation
@@Charles_DrakkanI take it that you aren't aware of Nazuna and her previous mental health issues under a previous persona. If anything, that's why her managers put the kibosh on her streaming Hogwarts Legacy right now. Need I remind you that Pikamee hasn't returned yet from these asshats attacking her from just saying she was going to be streaming her playthrough on her return stream. If you know about the shit that went down from antis losing their minds over a Discord notification showing on the screen, then you know why for Nazuna, they made an exception.
I like how just because Silvervale hasn't addressed anything on Twitter, these people just assume it's not been addressed at all, despite her talking about it on her stream and on discord. Like, wow, these people whole lives really do revolve around twitter.
At this point, the best course of actions to do on Twitter is just to not even care about anything. Don’t need to see what they post about you and honestly don’t need to care. You post what you need to and leave it, the more attention you give them the more they’ll try to harrass you.
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Im honestly so tired of hearing people say they feel "unsafe in X community"
You know what I do if I feel unsafe or unwelcome in a streamer's chat/community? I unfollow, close the tab, leave the discord, and move on with my life. It REALLY is not that big of a deal. People are acting like a streamer's chat/community is their local town they live in and that they can no longer leave the house without feeling unsafe. Pure mental illness.
I always do the same as well. Unfortunately, we live in a time period where almost everybody (especially from younger gens) want to make themselves seen and heard, even in situations where its not called for
what does "unsafe" even mean here? when i feel unsafe, it's because i'm outside in the dark or walking on a rickety bridge.
They feel unsafe because they can't act like a hateful little shit and not suffer consquences for breaking community rules
People really treat everywhere they go like their own house. Their parents probably coddled them a ton growing up, now they expect everyone else to do the same
@@613-shadow9 That's what I was going to say. Unsafe means your physical integrity is under jeopardy. Being in disagreement with a random person online has nothing to do with being unsafe, at most you could say you're not welcome at X community.
Glad to see she's happy, no one deserves to be harassed over a simple Harry Potter game.
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Literally cope because you stole that comment just f off
Turtle where's the approval?
@@nothingnesslol9538 The anime drama version of dong and NRIM or whatever his name is
I hope more people do this. This is EXACTLY how you deal with bullies. And draw that line in the sand deep.
stand your ground and laugh them out
Sadly they won't. People are just going to keep caving and caving to the woke mob.
YOU GOTTA DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND, DUDE. YOU GOTTA MAKE A STATEMENT. YOU GOTTA LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND SAY, "WHAT AM I WILLING TO PUT UP WITH TODAY?? *_NOT FUCKING THIS_*"
Exactly
Exactly got to be like a dragon stand your ground against your foes and if they attack you breathe your flames to tell them screw off
"act like an adult and I'll treat you like one" they say lmfao
the self-projection is strong with this one.
Also we all know that what they really mean by "bad-faith arguments". It's actually "any good argument against my flawed viewpoint", there's no way in hell they'll actually want to hear out anyone that doesn't parrot their stance.
When I saw that line i was like. "Sooo we are supposed to act like children then"
To these people acting like an adult means having a bunch of different mental illnesses that you refuse to go to therapy for.
"Act like an adult" and in the same tweet, "You're basic, piss off."
Lmao.
“Act like an adult and I’ll treat you like one” Is standard chronically online twitter people slang for “Agree with me, or else.”
I dunno if that's what bad-faith argument means. In fact I think it kinda means the opposite.
If people got upset about actual problems as they do about the wizard game, we'd be in a utopia by now.
Like the sheer public debt of their countries. THAT is worth making a fuss about.
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You know what I meant. You know very well what I meant.
I get what youre saying but striving for utopia is worse than not, utopia is unachievable and trying to reach it creates more problems.
The problem with the concept of a Utopia as we use it is that it stemmed out of Victorian era philosophy that assumed an inherent goodness to humanity. You could strive for utopia because all you had to do was get rid of the bad guys and things would get better.
It's an old lie, but an effective one. All the worst ideologies of the last century had their origins in it. Things are bad? It's not your fault, it's the fault of X group so we must "deal" with them to make things better.
The original concept is actually older, but it got supplanted by that ideology in the 1800s. Nobody uses the word Utopia in the way that it's original creator in the 1600s did where it meant what it directly translates as "no place" or in other words, a fictional society. *Better* was not tied to it for centuries afterward.
cuz wizard game is just the "current thing". give it a month and they'll forget about it
There's something really satisfying about seeing narcissist cowards being shown that the world doesn't revolve around them.
Personally i think that the Hogwarts Legacy arc of your channel has been the most entertaining.
They are barging into people's stream with the sole intent to harass and they are outraged when they get modded out.
Two can play that game and the streamer can win before you even play your cards. This is idiotic.
These people are like 90% American.
It is incredibly satisfying that Silvervale had the balls to stand against those vomit bags and showed them the middle finger by still merrily streaming the game.
It's depressing that the damage was still done. Pikamee's stream is not happening, and she's still missing in action as of now.
Y'all gotta remember stupid people breed more than intelligent people
@@ThinBear4 she’s “growing as a person” lmao
@@GeneratedPerson they think they are so much better when they're all just cowards.
They'll all duck behind their screens with no consequence or as it seems.
they'll fall they'll fight they'll cry and they'll scream.
Funny how they're surprised that they got timed out, even when they're intentionally wanting to cause trouble.
Ya idk how people don't realize this person isn't sending that in good faith and only want trouble. Just because you can say stuff it doesn't mean it won't be frowned upon and ignored or removed. You have freedom of speech but that doesn't mean people have to listen or read it and acknowledge it because you want them to.
@@lingroire2556 They literally went there just to attempt to harass them. Then get surprised the auto-filter caught them at their own game before they could even get past step 0.5 *surprised pikachu face*
@@ShaggyRogers1ya idk how that was a bad mod action. It was correct action in keeping peace and reducing the amount of complete nonsense.
I find it hilarious how many times people try this, yet it fails every time. Somehow they don't understand that vtuber agencies aren't firing talents for reasons that petty.
They can't think any higher than petty. Skinheads, black supremacists, toxic rainbows, every clique of subyooman trash is like that.
(hope this doesn't get SB'd)
Or they think they do no due diligence on their claims they use to try and get them fired
@@thehoodedteddy1335 Coco: 🇹🇼
@@KakfkaLover IIRC that was her decision, and she said Yagoo literally cried about it. They also immediately afterwards cut their ties to china
They seem to not realize V-tubing follows a more rational, non-american way of doing things. Unlike companies in the US (mainly big tech and Hollywood), claims of someone being xphobic aren't enough to warrant firing unless there is proper evidence and the backlash against that person is hurting their income or public image. Some petty bullshit like playing the wizard game probably isn't enough to get you fired in any company anyway
Me as a Trans Girl: *see people on Twitter saying Silvervale is Transphobic*
Also me: thanks *procceeds to suscribe to her*
Unfathomably based
@@primedarkking10 You know what they Say about Twitter, if they hate it, it's good
Why the trans in West is toxic?
I feel bad for you guys, like, the Trans people that just want to live a happy life and don't care about dumb stuff like streaming a game. I bet a lot of people are gonna use the actions of this stupid loud minority to attack good people like you that had nothing to do with it. Those idiots caused too much harm and absolutely no good by being assholes.
@@onyxblack1167 idk, that's why i usually don't Say this out loud, but i think this time was worth it
Yes... that's the funny thing... Vshojo is a talent first group. Meaning Silvervale owns her character, her channels and all her social media profiles. Even if for some Godforsaken reason she was fired for playing Wizard Game, she'd still be around as Silvervale lmao
Don't tell them that, they don't know.
So basically vshojo is a union with lots of recourses to give , I love that.
Not to mention I'm pretty sure she was already around before vshojo was even a thing
@@Zerovin yes, the only three members who debuted their current Vtuber identity within the company are Froot, Hime Hajime and Nazuna. Everyone else was already around as indies, often for several years.
@@lingroire2556 It's more of a combined publishing union among artists. They combine so they can group negotiate stuff like sponsorships and events etc, but in the end are still just each contracted people. Even if Silvervale were to be removed, they would still be free to go independent or join any other company to work with.
I'm trans, and I wanna say I'm sorry for that part of the group. I got harassed and blocked by someone I thought was a friend when I just tried to understand their reasoning for supporting people who doxxed and threatened people who played hogwarts legacy. My group and I did find it hilarious that she blocked me after I mentioned things that were more related to her that they should cancel, but didn't. But yeah, all I asked was "what about people who support trans rights, but grew up loving Harry Potter? Or those who bought it and are using it to raise money for trans charities?" She didn't like that in the slightest. After she blocked me, she began getting messages from an account with a similar username to mine which started insulting her. So... wether that's a troll or her trying to make me look worse by using a fake account, I don't know. But still, as a trans woman who's playing the game, I say go ham and don't let those idiots slow you down!
What a dumb thing to lose a friend over. I'm sorry you had to find out about them like that, but based on how they sound it was probably always going to happen eventually.
You should feel happy and blessed. That so called "friend" of yours would've backstabbed you sooner or later. She exposed herself and decided to throw you away. A loss on her end but a victory and experience on your end. You deserve better afterall.
Seems like 'that part of the group' is the only part we ever hear about. Clearly the majority of trans people are just like this. Makes you think.
If she stopped being friends with you over something like that, then she probably wasn't really your friend in the first place, so its her loss and all the better for you.
@@fishbiter9409 Nope. Many people that do this aren't even trans themselves. It's a minority but a loud minority that's why you see them more. Those of us that are more sensible don't scream like a toddler in the middle of a store over nothing.
2:56 - 3:02 Broo what was with the angry, fast typing????? I had to pause because that was unexpected 💀
I’m so happy that Silvervale is better now and stood up for herself.
I'm just glad that it doesnt seem to have made her bitter, seeing such a wholesome soul break down like that made me so fricken angry.
Same and love silver 😍
she did say she'll be taking some time off during that stream, dont know if it's true or not. but yeah it's a good thing she managed to bounce back after that attack, and as for those haters those people needs to get punished in the most humiliating way.
I think past the initial shock, it's much too little to dim her star. Silver is super sweet and whimsical but she can be world-savvy.
I was in a rage at a gym after hearing these bullying parasites attacked
I don't really watch vtubers but I agree with this.
It's not okay to harass people, especially over a game.
Like the game does not always dictate the type of person playing it.
But considering it is twitter the degeneracy doesn't shock me and I've numbed to hearing twitter doing dumb shit.
"Your actions make me feel unsafe in your community"
Silver: okay goodbye then
Twitter user: 😡
Man treating Silver's name as if she's Voldemort
That's a compliment.
Does that mean when I speak her name a big boobed sakura fox girl will show up? I hope so.
"tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth"
Gaslighting is so stupid, especially when people like these people on twitter do it to themselves, at which point its just plain pethetic.
It becomes their truth
@@____Carnage____ That is what we call an opinion lol.
"A lie will remain a lie!!!"
-Aldria, Scholar of the First Sin.
@@____Carnage____ Sadly not, I've seen way too many otherwise critical people just state JK is phobic as fact...
You know who else Twitter tries to get fired but fails terribly? My mom!
Ohhhhhhhhhh
Was that.....self roast???Good job man lol
Based RS reference.
@@YuuyaKZMI AFFIRMATIVE!
WOOOOOO! *starts spinning shirt around*
That person felt unsafe? In the comfort of their home, saw this Vtuber play a game, had nothing to do with them and they felt unsafe? While they're the ones attacking Silver, tryna get her fired? Okay, alright.
literal definition of chronically online
TeaRueful: "Act like an adult and I'll treat you like one!"
Me: "Let's start with you."
I'd love if Vshojo had played the Bethesda card here and replied with the "We aren't planning on doing anything about it" line
Hey…if it works
Than it just works
"See that hate mob? You can ignore it. It just works!"
The most fitting line. However they forget if VShojo fired her, in theory, ot would be as if nothing happened because their business model would mean she would be back to indie, but still with her business contacts. She could even win
I guess in their managers aren't taking any of this shit I don't blame them.
Vshoujo is well known for making bad decisions, so if anything is to be loved it's that they aren't saying much of anything. Silvervale would probably be canned instantly if they did open their dumb mouth to say something. Not that this would hurt her particularly much outside of whatever mental damage that'd do.
This game single-handedly showed their true colors and people aren’t taking their crap anymore
I just wanted to say that the way Silvervale responded to all of these delusional Twitter people is absolutely goated
There will be times where people think they are right, but they are wrong. They are blinded by the fact that they can say words and will gain clout over it. I saw some comments in the twitter profiles claiming they are Vtubers/PNGtuvbrs etc. They chose to go against Silvervale in order to gain clout, which is disgusting.
Im just happy that the game is getting more publicity making the haters, look like idiots.
The funny thing they're still focusing on Silver ignoring the dozens of people that have been playing or finished. They focused her because they know her which is sad, backstabbing ass mooks
Those people are probably just putting Vtuber/PNGtuber in their bio for attention and haven't actually done anything towards actually becoming one.
Unfortunately the game is still mid and nothing can really change that.
And for those like that, i really wanna read that one line of our dad reaper song out again from “off with their heads”
@@fishbiter9409 Yeah the game is mid but still the best thing coming out of WB
I love how that hate reply basically incapsulates twitter as a whole;
-plays the victim
-tries to get someone cancelled in every instance
-did not even take 2 seconds to look up that the fact they spouted has been debunked
-lies to prove a point
I love seeing seething twitter users, they brighten up my day so much
Imagine how empty your life must be that you decide to try and ruin someone because she played a video game based on a wizard book written by someone who said something you don't like. Bonus points because you can't even come close to accurately quoting the thing she said that you don't like and whenever you are asked you just yell "DO YOUR RESEARCH" and then you run away as quickly as your pudgy little legs can carry you.
"DO YOUR RESEARCH" describes every self proclaimed woke person I ever heard of or met really well
Someone needs to remind these fools that asking the upset person what it is that has upset them IS doing your research. You are literally asking the affected person about it. We don't just magically know without asking.
It's funny because what she said wasnt even bad.
These people would have doctors fired if they don't do everything they tell them to.
They do not care, they do not want to help, they will destroy, and claim they have saved.
It's genuinely disturbing the kind of mindset they have.
Who exactly are you talking about here?
@@beanieteamie7435 the people trying to get Silver fired. Have you not seen the fucking video?
"Silvervale's recent transphobic actions."
*CITATION DESPERATELY NEEDED*
Silvervale at this point needs to meet with other content creators and streamers to get all the names of those who have harassed these streamers, compile a script with all those names that works very much the same way as the one JSchlatt used to mass ban the Dream Stans, and execute the script.
That would be hilarious lmao
We all need Schlatt mass ban button in our life.
Man people tried getting her fired over a game with a minor tranphobe controversy, what could possibly go wrong
¯Hmmmm...
telling people men cant get pregnant isn't transphobic at all.. its stating a truth
@@jerrdan100 you're a transphobe for saying that HOW DARE YOU.
@@jerrdan100 jokes on you I took a polymorph potion
@@KakfkaLover
Cheater!
Reminder to every community on the internet: you’re neither always in the right nor is everyone obligated to do what you want
That's a bitter pill for them. Which is good, let it taste like arsenic.
The fact that "call them out but don't bully someone" got hid says everything you need to know about that OP jfc people justifying literally harassing others and not even just for sick kicks they'll feel guilty about later like they think it's some righteous moral mission to tell someone to off themselves... we've passed disgusting and wayyy passed stupid, this is actually terrifying people truly believe that pushing people into psychotic breaks is a good thing to do all for playing a freaking video game they don't want to support
I'm sure these crazies on twitter are gonna bash her for a long time cause there just that petty, silvers comeback stream was legendary and hearing her tell off twitter was a breathe of fresh air and more people need to do this, was really cool to hear her say one of asmongolds quotes to, much love to silver.
I’m sick of these “14 year old white girls” on twitter
A little targeted but yeah I get why people use that term, since a lot of these crazy fools act like whiny middle-schoolers.
I just heard that term a lot and went with it
@@thefrozenshadowking From what I've seen, most Twitter "activists" are typically upper middle class, white college kids, usually female with Borderline Personality Disorder and *severe* daddy issues. While the males often end up getting exposed as sexual predators. They're not good people. They're not even somewhat decent people. They're terrible people who have no real power and nothing going on in their lives. They're also generally miserable, with self diagnosed mental illnesses galore. While their real mental illnesses go undiagnosed and untreated. These are people that deserve to be marginalized and shunned by society, because they've proven time and again that all they're capable of is making life worse for everyone, especially those they' claim to speak for. (though, really are just speaking *over*) Misery loves company, and they do their best to drag everyone down into their pit of hatred and despair. They're the main reason why I think that asylums should be brought back.
They do seem like nerf cushioned kids that never grew up. Do you suppose there's a correlation to how many live at home AND act like they do?
@@sargehavoc Whose to say? human society is weird.
Twitter: WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!!?
Silvervale: Twitch viewers, son!
They act like characters from Harry Potter: "Don't say You-Know-Who's name! They played You-Know-What!"
"DID YOU PLAY THE WIZARD GAME?!?!" -Twitter said calmly.
I saw that tweet where someone went in to type that out in silver's chat. You'll notice they aren't even following silver they've just been obsessively waiting for their moment to type that out, essentially to bring up drama and break chat rules.
The so called "vtweeters" are some of the most obnoxious people I've ever seen.
They're so insanely jealous and resentful towards all the successful vtubers and will do anything in their power to drag them down.
I saw a tweet from a twitter user named "Seppy The Seal" about how it was horrible that she continued to play the game. She is a vtuber who streams 2-4 hours every other day, yet he streams only get double digit views. her official RUclips channel only has double digit subscribers, her vods and clips only get single and double digit views. she is hyperactive on Twitter... all signs that her hateful and ignorant post about Silvervale was not a once off. imagine how hard it is to get those kinda numbers with as often she is online engaging her audience. put it this way... this video we just watch got more views than ALL of her RUclips and Twitch videos combined
when i saw her numbers vs on air time, she has to be personaly unpleasant on stream too. only thing i can think of tbh
@@matthewgiese7811 Instead of wasting her time on Twitter, she should use that time for ther streams and be more entertaining. People watch streams to get entertained and escape reality, not snap back to reality and get bored.
@@matthewgiese7811 I dated a vtuber once (or, the person behind the character rather) and I shit you not, all the small time vtubers have the same personality.
I don't mean that as in, they have the same personality irl, just that their online personas are pointlessly identical.The vast majority of them are just watered down versions of the big ones.
Whenever I see a clip from any of those big brands like Hololive, it just solidifies how massive the gap between most of the small time vtubers and the successful ones really is.
_”WHY DO THEY HATE US?!”_
Because we only like good people.
Sadly none of this insanity even remotely surprises me anymore
Disgusted but not surprised.
Same here
As soon as Twitter is mentioned I'm not surprised by the shit that comes from there.
We are so desensitized to evil and dumb shit on twitter lmao XD
Social media brain rot, we need more people on Twitter that will counteract this sort of behavior.
"act like an adult and I will treat you like one"
"congrats on the representation"
*hide that message*
“Got a source on that Twitter weirdo?”
“My source is I made it the f*ck up”
Late heart pls Hei and hope yall have a great day
Imagine trying to fire someone from a job because you don't like the fact that they did exactly what they are expected to do... their job
@CommanderGuy shockingly impressive that they can "afford" anything honestly
Sadly, this mindset is getting executed a lot.
Obviously they'd fail, she did nothing wrong.
Absolutely nothing wrong
Plus if Vshojo was dumb enough to fire Silver, her friends, would probably give the company some nasty backlash about it, making them undo it.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 why would they fire her in the first place? She legit did nothing wrong
@@JoCaTen Companies can make stupid choices and listen to what stupid people like these twitter users say before ever even looking into the matter, it has happened before, and will continue to happen on occasion.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 if you put it that way then yeah but Vshojo ain't a company ran by god knows who, they know what's up.
@@JoCaTen Yeah but they're not free from making stupid choices like that, there was the doxxing drama that they screwed up on.
Glad to see Silver's still active and laughing, and what a joyous laugh at that
Silvervale can be a loose cannon on how she reacts to things, but at least she is able to endure them, rather then completely breaking down and giving up.
silver should consider herself a role model now, she's dealing with everything so smoothly it's inspiring.
It shows a real disconnect from reality. No one is on your side. We are with Silver and other content creators who have been bullied. Hell, I don't even like Harry Potter and I almost downloaded the game out of spite.
This whole situation is just sad and pathetic. All of the problems in the world and their main concern are a video game. I'm glad to hear she is taking a break from Twitter though she doesn't need that crap.
2:54
I love the aggressive way in which he types each letter
edit: lol you actually noticed that too xD
we need more people like her, for too long people have bent over backwards over infantile behavior
Just like the saying "The best kind to make your enemies mad is living a fulfilling live"
In the past you never saw these people because no one gave them the time of day so they were in the background grumbling to themselves. Since getting a means to make themselves heard and having people actually give them attention and even supporting what they say it fueled them into overdrive and now that things are going back, admittedly slowly, to them being ignored they are kicking and screaming on every issue they can to try to keep that power and attention.
Ya the deliberately angry typing.
5:24 "That 'owo comfy vibes' vtuber fox is full of crap'
According to her about me section on the channel silvervale's persona is a wolf, not a fox.
That's the calling card these loons for DARING to go against them
Glad to see that she is pushing back and calling them out. This game has really showed everyone just how horrible these people can be and just how hateful all because someone plays a video game. This is what needs to happen though. People have to stop apologizing to the cult and push back against them. They will take everything if people constantly bow to them. Hopefully more people will start standing up for themselves and others after all of this.
I'm laughing at how they're censoring Silvervale's name the same way people used to avoid saying Macbeth.
That's exactly why these kinds of people don't deserve any sympathy they will literally try to destroy your life for having different thoughts than them.
That’s provided they even have those beliefs. I guarantee that most of these ppl have never defended trans ppl and won’t in the future. It’s just outrage culture at its finest
They are the minority, please don't think we're all like this... it's exactly what they want... ugh
@@beanieteamie7435 It's too late to play the victim, y'all HAD all the time the world to call them out. What stopped you guys from doing that? I mean, you accomplished things like accepting gay marriage so what was stopping y'all?
@@razumahiroki9216 what are you smoking my guy
@@beanieteamie7435 I am smoking reality, you should try it as well. Maybe it makes you a normal human being.
Ayo why the second person typing with their fist bruh 😭😂
I remember back in highschool my teacher said people these days think they're entitled to apology.
Appreciate the Howarts Legacy game play to cover this piece. Love the full awareness of the situation! 10/10
How long will this dumb drama go on?!
How many more back and forth videos will there be?!
The only thing I want to know in relation to this is the status of Pikamee.
@@thephoenix4980 tbh all this vtuber stuff is getting really annoying and repetitive
Probably till Elon deletes twitter and closes the entire company down permanently
@@HUNKZER0 maybe to an extent, especially how all this started from a video game. But I still worry about Pikamee.
That aside, let's just hope this drama eventually dies down.
@@thephoenix4980 god I hope it dies down too
Thank you for not leaving us blue balled, i was half expecting the video to end before you killed the troll.. now I'm satisfied
Voldemorting her name just shows they're afraid of her. Because she got back up and told them to piss off. That is what they fear. It's so comical.
I don't get why this is so hard for some people to understand.
When you harass and threaten someone for playing a videogame, YOU are the bad guy.
Not them, YOU.
If ANYTHING Froot might get in some trouble because she basically egged on the mob
What did she actually said though?
I heard the claims but not source
Of course the cheater would also be a backstabber.
I don't like a vtuber that ponders too much on a specific group especially one that kisses them up like Froot.
WHAT ?! Did that fkin' cheating sloot tried to egg on the mob to attack Silver ?
Can you provide any sources to this, or something? I don't have Twitter since I deleted it long ago and can't seem to find anything else about that.
SO BY THEIR LOGIC they believe that if you buy or use something someone creates than you must share the same opinion as the creator. I would hope these people understand how stupid that is. For example every time they turn their PC or laptop on. They must agree it's fine for certain manufacturer's to abuse their workforce OR that when they watch a film they're totally ok with the film staff assaulting other film staff. I think I've seen goldfish with more brain power than they have.
Alternative title: Twitter try to cancel Silvervale, Instantly regrets it
I swear Twitter is a cesspool of madness
They're so pathetic man, I just cant 🤣🤦♂️.
Me and you both dude. Me and you both.
"I love you." - Silvervale (VShojo)
misread as fried was very confused
Hahahahah
Am so happy for silver 🥰🐺 keep doing what you are doing love silver
Coppelia finally made it. She has been a hero hei video and not as the bad guy 5:05
Congrats, Coppellia!
7:24 I would've replied to this convo with "This dude meant Silvervale but he's too illiterate to write it out"
The fact that they also only had 10 damn points in her channel goes to show that they have watched for all of 5 damn minutes
I don't think many people's brain cells will every truly recover from the knowledge that all of this "drama" that caused twitter to have a meltdown was caused by a Harry Potter video game.
Only reason she broke down was cause she was backed into a corner and didn’t have time to process her feelings. Once she gave herself some time to process her feelings and think, she clapped back and clapped hard
It's like slamming someone with a coward's punch and thinking you won the fight, glad she refuses to take it
"Feel unsafe."
And? Sounds like a personal problem whenever they throw around this phrase disingenuously. Honestly starting to get up there on the list of annoying things to hear next to "Offended" and "Cancel". Like the boy that cried wolf. It's just sad really.
I love that their hidden replies can still be found. Seeing the responses that they hide kinda shows their true intent when they tweet
Twitter.
Stop.
Please.
The further you go about this, the deeper your own grave gets. Please, just leave well enough alone already and save whatever tiny shreds of dignity you have left. You can't win this fight.
Yeah that was definitely angry typing. The kind of typing that they intentionally raise their fingers overly high over the keys, so they can hit the keys as hard as their weak little fingers can muster.
The thing is, kids are more adult... a lot of the time, except for the times they're exactly like this. And adults... just have fewer times they're exactly like this simply because there's more distractions caused by the need for continued survival. What we're seeing is everybody having a bad or troll moment seeing the same potential target. And this isn't the schoolyard; most of this type of bullying is the kind where just ignoring the bullies is the most practical option.
Even if Silvervale did delete the word "Trans" from her chat, (she didn't btw, the Twitch bot did) who cares? I'm so tired of chronically online idiots thinking that hurting their feelings is equivalent to mass murder or a war crime.
People complain about chat censorship, are the same people that block or hide reply to their tweet if they are even slightly in disagreement.
Haven't watched it yet but I know it's gonna be a banger from our guy hero hei
I like how these people harm the cause they supposedly fight for.
Because they make this community they supposedly care about look like a bunch of psychotic creeps. Especially that community at large seems to be defeaningly silent about this crap.
And from there, some people will draw some nasty conclusions that will bite the alphabet community hard.
There is a reason there support is dropping. people are having enough
Every day, every notice, every event, makes me happier about never having created a twitter account.
About your voice tone, I deadass thought of that Prof. McGonagall's meme (The "Why is it always you three" one)
Honestly I'm surprised this is still going on this long
There are some internet drama events that sometimes just don't go away, like how the youtube staff deemed a criminal innocent despite what he has been doing.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 CoryxKenshin?
Act Man vs Quantum TV situation?
@@moisesezequielgutierrez The second one yeah, its disgusting that RUclips let him go despite all the proof being shoved right in thier faces.
Though I do not know about that first one.
Either way, some drama events just don't go away, they linger and keep coming back like a disease.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 About the CoryxKenshin one... I don't know how to explain this but look up his video called *_RUclips: R4c1sm and F4v0r1t1sm_* (I censored the words)
Basically the same Corruption energy that modern RUclips emits *but* in a different case: _Favoritism_
@@moisesezequielgutierrez Oooooohhh I think I might remember that one, that event really ticked off a lot of people, it was over that horror game right? or at least a scene in it?
Many think that the girls are actually the real bosses and the Vshojo staff is there to support them of course we will never know the facts but if any of that is true this is like asking you to fire your boss, and also there's the "Talent Freedom" that is basically letting them stream and do what they want, the Nazuna issue surprised me thought when they forbid her to stream HL Also remember that Vshojo has 11 members and losing even one would be a hit to them
Silvervale is really popular and all they're doing right now is signal boosting her. Even if she was stressed out about it this has only drawn more attention to her, I gaurantee people have donated to her out of spite to the haters just like people bought HL out of spite. It would be insanely stupid for them to drop her
A few of the talents are their bosses, particularly Nyanners and melody, both of whom seem to really dislike the Japanese aspects of the medium they inhabit.
The mental health and safety of the talent is above everything, even above "Talent Freedom". If Vshojo prohibited Nazuna to play the wizard game in order to protect her from the backslash and irrational hate then it was a good decision.
@@bondrewdthenovel3598 except I don't believe it's for her mental health I think they got afraid of the backlash and don't want more problems, Silver already is playing it and she apparently don't care anymore about those fuckers but Nazuna playing probably would restart all this again so no more HL.
But again unless they come and say the reason outright we will never know so it's all speculation
@@Charles_DrakkanI take it that you aren't aware of Nazuna and her previous mental health issues under a previous persona. If anything, that's why her managers put the kibosh on her streaming Hogwarts Legacy right now. Need I remind you that Pikamee hasn't returned yet from these asshats attacking her from just saying she was going to be streaming her playthrough on her return stream.
If you know about the shit that went down from antis losing their minds over a Discord notification showing on the screen, then you know why for Nazuna, they made an exception.
I like how just because Silvervale hasn't addressed anything on Twitter, these people just assume it's not been addressed at all, despite her talking about it on her stream and on discord. Like, wow, these people whole lives really do revolve around twitter.
Glad to see she's standing up to them. All they can do is yell in impotent rage and it's funny to see.
The angry keyboard clacking isn't even a meme. They really are like that! x"3
Twitter: "Stop using gay as a slur!"
Also them: *S1lV3RV4L3*
'the jewish community deserves better' yeah, like to not be brought up by racist non jewish people, and used as a defence.
"acT lIkE aN aDuLt..."
*insert old school "GENIUS" meme*🤪
Wait till they realize that Rowling definitely makes millions of dollars more off of merch, the movies, and the books
those People need to " Get,Get some Help"
At this point, the best course of actions to do on Twitter is just to not even care about anything.
Don’t need to see what they post about you and honestly don’t need to care. You post what you need to and leave it, the more attention you give them the more they’ll try to harrass you.