I think you should've done a 30 seconds review saying "It's 4-9% faster, it's $700. Thanks for watching, subscribe for more..." Edit: oh this blew up. Avoiding getting clapped by RUclips's algorithm is as easy as adding 9 mins 31 secs of Snowflake footage afterwards.
I'm genuinely upset at what you just said. Charging too much money? - their decision. It's bad business in the long run, but maybe they had no choice and I don't know about it. Using shady tactics to establish a monopoly? - they were already roasted for it all over youtube. Upsetting Steve? - Now I'm mad.
I envy everyone who bought this GPU at launch. It still sells for min. 60% MSRP two years after its release. When I bought my 980Ti in summer 2017 I paid ~350€ for it, including a Watercool block and shipping. 😁 I guess a 1080Ti will stay strong at ~500€ until Ampere comes out next year.
This reminds me of the Taco Bell business model. Rearrange about 8 total ingredients to present a menu of 20 plus items. Gives the consumer the illusion of choice.
FortuneSeek3rz not a valid comparison a crunchwrap supreme does not taste the same as a cheesy gordita crunch. By your logic all burgers or steaks taste the same since they all share the same major ingredients across variants but anyone who ever had a burger before knows that doesn’t apply.
@@Tony-yn5rr Negative ghost rider. What tastes similar and different will vary widely among test subjects. The experience manufactured in the gustatory cortex is not what I'm debating. It's the ingredients themselves that repeat. Chicken, beef, cheese, tomatoes, lettuce, taco sauce, sour cream. Whether the "bun" is a gordita, chalupa or a hard or soft taco shell is a miserly way to present choice to the unassuming customer.
the only time wehre the super cards are useful, is the better performance for the price, which is far better for people with older hardware (980/1080 users) that want to upgrade
Exactly right. Im moving from my 980m alienware to an rtx 2080, def worth it ( dont worry im not a corporarion cuck) its that in my current situation, family is supplementing my purchases with me paying them back, and they are brand whores. They dont realize that corps eventually lose sight of what they were and we have to move on. Famy insisted i get a laptop, so i said rtx 2080, so its eorth it moving from 980m to rtx 2080, but the super does just seem like a waste
Same here. I bought a 1080Ti shortly after launch when they were still hard to find (got lucky checking one morning and got my order in just in time). Turns out I bought at the right time.
I made promise to my self, that after 1080ti i will never buy Nvidia card again. And Nvidia is doing all in its power to help me keep that promise. 🤦♂️
@@acidspaz4252 In the same boat as you. Just can't decide whether to switch or not when the custom designs release or play the wait and see game longer.
@@profblack I think he already did, at this point, a punch to the wall might be considered a way to release his stress, I wont be mad if he wants to do it if they ever release a GTX 1660 TI Super.
The first Gamers Nexus video I ever watched was "28 Cores of Bullshit" and I was hooked - I live for videos where Steve is grumpy and shits on a product.
So, what you mean is that they just build a 1080ti with 27% VRAM decrease? Cheers Steve, quality content as usual. You didnt wasted our time, Nvidia wasted yours.
@Raging YT You fail to grasp the fact that its 1080ti with LESS memory that cost MORE, 2 years after 1080ti was released. Absolutely retarded product that's only isn't laugh at because they have a monopoly on top performance segment.
I get that but, in my case, coming from a GTX 1080 with Max-Q I find it more worthy to upgrade to a 2080 Super rather than a standard 2080 or, worse, a 1080 Ti. That's why these reviews are still important and relevant.
got my 1080ti used from ebay a month before RTX was released for $475 and it was the best investment I ever made considering after the launch the 1080ti sky-rocketed.
J.A PCMR @Bojun Choi @Delimon007 Woosh... My comment apparently flew over most people (woo! As an aerospace engineer I finally got something to fly, lol!). Keyword was “well”, I’m aware my Titan Xp could run raytracing at a cinematic (or photographic...) 3 fps, and yes, even quake from just after the DOS days when people were aiming with keyboard number pad still makes a Titan RTX crawl on its knees with Ray-tracing enabled. I was making a satirical comment about the new gen RTX cards, you’ll probably spot it now, apparently it was a bit less obvious than I meant to make it though. May your resolution be high and frame times low, cheers!
LOL, I love that while everyone is putting on their best game face and doing everything standard, Steve is 10,000% done with this. Can't wait to see the GTX 1660 Ti Super
I stopped paying attention to the naming back when Ti got tacked on. Just focus on what games and monitor you have, and get a card that floats around max refresh rate.
@@CommonSenserules1981 recently got a new pc with a 1080ti for 900$ (2 years old) , pretty good snipe. Got my other 1080ti for 400$ 1 year back (also about 2 years old at the time) which i use in my main pc. so now i got a 2man lan setup, life's good
@@CommonSenserules1981 so? It came out like 3 years earlier and it has more VRAM. So for the same price, you got the same performance 3 years earlier with more VRAM.
@@SPIRIT-117 You dont get the same performance at all - The 2080yi beats the 1080 .. EASY.. And more Vram means very little, it does not give you more fps. Just look at the benchmarks. For the same price, the 1080ti is shit...
I have 1080 too, and this all rtx stuff is fun but there are no games out there which actually uses them, further games simply haven't caught up, I believe we can play all modern titles at high graphics and great fps with 1070ti, 1080 and above so simply no reason to upgrade or if someone actually cares about 150 fps to 180 fps worth 600-700 dollars
Just shows their greed, I will not buy from Ngreedia no matter what. They would have to compete with AMD in cost to performance to actually persuade me to consider green team. Why would I get any of the 1080ti clones when I can get a 5700XT and overclock it, I save at least 100 dollars! When the 5800 comes out, hopefully this year, I really don't see how nvidia will do anything useful.
The PR department iver at NVidias must be in meltdown after watching this, best part is that they can’t touch GN for it or they’ll be called out on that by the viewers and customers. Good job Steve as always.
meh, I believe they are 100% predicting of how bad the market will react to this, but they also know that no one can do shit about it since AMD is weak here.
@@H4444-f7g AMD isn't really weak in my opinion, but Nvidia doesn't have competition after the 2070 Super and they're capitalizing on the lack of competition. It's messed up in a way but it's business so you can't complain too much.
My fav part is how SOMEHOW the 2080 super several times came in with worse 1% and 0.1% lows, like WTF?! Why do I want a card that has MORE frame time inconsistency Nvidia?!
@@wordpotions i found you can turn off MSAA at 4k and not tell a difference because of the sheer amount of pixels. Gives a decent bump to performance, GTA V runs at around 90fps when setup that way
@Thomas Foster Yes it is worse. The AMD RX 590 had the same issue. It was just an overclocked RX 580 which was an overclocked RX 480. Some cards have the headroom for it some don't. People want high clocks even when they don't make sense and they'll pay extra for it.
That would actually be more interesting than a 2080 super. At least Steve can talk about the motivation of Nvidia rep in doing this, and why is this shit, why is this a flaming bag......etc Hole up, why am I commenting about a piece of flaming shit?
CasualRUclipsr if you want cheap try Craigslist or letgo. You can find them pretty easily for $500 or maybe less if you can negotiate. If you want new then you are pretty much out of luck
Radeon VII in all honesty should be in the build. 1TB bandwidth with 16gb of HBM2. A new and improved 3 fan design. and was going to DESTROY Nvidia's 2080...... It came out at the same price as a 2080, was slower than a 2080 and ran hot and loud stock. AND to top it off.....discontinued in 6 months because AMD came out with a cheaper card that can beat it.
the one thing I wanted him to answer is the one thing he DIDN'T whats the overclocking headroom look like? he basically said "stock it meets up mostly with your overclocked 2080" thats great, but who the fuck runs a GPU at stock?
@@LukewarmEnthusiast tbh I can understand why AMD released it, can't understand why anyone would want it. Cheap card for them as otherwise the chips would have been binned, as in thrown away, as they are no more than 'failed' Instinct MI50 CPU dies so they are a nice little earner.
The 5700XT is an incredibly good card, even though the price is a bit high for a midrange card. But equipped with an aftermarket cooler or a waterblock this little card is on the heels of a 2070Super. That's not bad, since the NV card is significantly more expensive. :) Also it seems that you still cant memOC it because the drivers still don't allow for that. So there's even more hidden potential in it. I can't wait for bigNavi, RTG finally is on a good track. :)
@@pedromars8508 As long as we can both agree and understand that AMD had "high" end gpus at NVIDIAS mid range pricepont. That I think is the misconception.
Here’s my problem. I get that this card is over priced and is not that much different from a 2080 or even a 1080ti just in terms of non RTX performance. But some people, me included are just building their pcs and don’t have access to a 1080ti and would obviously want to get a 2080 Super because it costs the same even if it is a small performance gap. However, there are no good reviews of this card because everyone is pissed at the performance compared to a 2080.
"For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die-But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." -Romans 5:7-8
I got myself a 1070ti last year after the price went down, i was upgrading from r9 280 lol, i got it because the 1080s were waaaaay too overpriced, something like over 600€ so 1070ti were the best bang for the buck and i basically have a 1080 for way cheaper, i think it was ~300€
The 1070ti was very exciting to many, a dream card for miners. The power efficient 1080 core, but with the much better for mining GDDR5! It blows away even my Titan Xp collectors edition in terms of the hash power for the then popular mining algorithms, and yet it used half the power! It was as if Nvidia made a card specifically for miners, and so it sold very well, although everything was being sold out back then (I bought a Titan Xp because number one: I’m a nerd and Star Wars fan, and number two: it was the only card at MSRP and actually cheaper than all but the 2 worst 1080ti models.... Mining demands took all the cards back then, and I sure didn’t want a $120 GT1030 potato for 4k gaming!)
Wait, did anyone actually buy the 1070Ti lmao! Why buy that, when you can buy a 1080 that does the same shit, except it's not overclocked, and can probably be overclocked if you want to but if not it'll last a hell of a lot longer than a 1070Ti, so it's basically useless af. The 2080 Super is actually an upgrade at least and is lower than the price of a 1080Ti unless you buy used.
What's crazy is how far ahead the 2080ti is compared to everything else. For me that says that nvidia is just going to keep milking it for a while yet with cards which slowly close that gap. Really need AMD to come up with something of note to bring those prices down.
@@chickendinner5572 if it gives me twice the performance of the competition for 3 or so more years before the competition can even match it then yes... but you do realise Nvidia will just bring out their next gen cards to beat Big Navi the minute they release right? they are irrelevant even before they have come out... It's sad...
Me comparing 2080S with the 1080 ti: Less VRAM, about 5% to 10% faster, Ray Tracing and GDDR6. GTX 1080 ti: $500 RTX 2080S: $700 Price difference: 33% Let me get a GTX 1080 ti please!
@@Malus1531 Depends on the country. In the US on the used market (ebay) I see them running between 470 to 600. For some reason, brand new GTX 1080 ti are overpriced.
@@DarkKitarist just become a scripter and used C++ windows implementation and DX11/12 Bs the rays into the game by modifying how the 1080 ti interprets lights in the game. Jk, this is all BS, you need a tester card 1080ti and well, become a computer scientist/engineer. 🤣
@@CaseyHardman shaders are actually written in something like scripts so you weren't that far off. That being said when I saw thay we're doing realtime raytracing i was super happy! Imagine Ultima 3D and now Metro Exodus today.
@@Niptonian9551 i bought one basicly new from a Dad that sold his sons stuff . he didnt even used the card i could tell and looked and smelled brandnew for 430€ .
Jordan30589 not happening. GN’s been honest on the whole RTX thing ever since launch. That time he did the Tom’s Hardware RTX critique is forever etched in my mind and had me laughing for weeks.
I actually just checked based on old reviews of non Founders edition BS 2014 GTX 970 $350 2016 GTX 1070 $460 2018 RTX 2070 $630 Sure they are faster but at this point they are not really replacing the same model
God help Nvidia if AMD's add-in-board partners do a good stable overclock and provide some really good cooling to an RX5700XT and it comes close to a 2080 Super while being almost $300 less...
@@SnipesXxX He's kinda always done it to a degree, but then people whined about it. So I'm pretty sure he continues to do it just to fuck with people, and because he always has since it really doesn't matter. Same with "too much thermal paste"
Thank _you_ for your time, Steve. Upgrading from a 970, this was very useful in showcasing just how out-of-date my machine really is! I'm looking forward to building a system with this card.
Not sure what's your point but the OP didn't do anything wrong. Personally, I would purposly buy an used 1080 Ti over any RTX GPU. Don't care what other people think.
@str actually no I did not.... The guy I bought it from did. :) I just bought it from some dude randomly. Besides he might have stolen it for all we know. I bought second hand because Nvidia already made money either way I just got a deal. Today 500$ is decent for a 1080ti so I dont regret anything. Thanks for the reply tho! Have a great day str :)
If you're not upgrading, and was looking at the 2080 for a complete new build, then only this card makes sense. Then again, 4-9% better for $700 doesn't make sense.
Nope especially when you are already getting frame rates in the hundreds and max settings. Unless you have a super high end monitor or a professional the improvements are marginal at best.
Your frustration at how boring this review was actually made it more interesting than most normal reviews. I skipped the benchmarks and was otherwise thoroughly entertained.
Every reviewer of this card did the same shtick. I love how they are bored by the second fastest consumer card ever released, coming in at 699 bucks. Stupid pretentious reviewers and the sheep that love them.
Haha exactly my 1080ti with a nice OC is still waiting for a real chance to upgrade... I assume they will drop their 3000 series with 7nm EUV in early 2020 I want a 3080ti for Cyberpunk 2077 :-)
@@gcur You really do not get much performance gain out of 7nm. Mainly just smaller chips and better power consumption. They might actually loose per core performance but they can fit more cores. Which is exactly what AMD is going to do soon. Add more cores. Vega has more cores than the 5700xt. This was just a means to compete in the price range most people buy while they work on better yields. The people buying in that price range generally upgrade often anyway if the gain is good.
Instead of throwing the card around, banging it on the desk.. why dont you send it to me. i cant afford 1200, i cant afford 600, and cant find cards anyway because of crypto-folk (i say that nicely). I promise i wont complain about it. Its worth my time.. if you test it or not.
What I want to know is how it overclocks! Yeah my 2080 probably matches it in most cases because its heavily overclocked, but if you heavily overclock it where does it end up?
Yes cranking a evga 1080ti ftw3 hybrid 800 bucks new year and half ago. No need to upgrade with the crap Nvidia has produced. Want a 2080ti but 1200 hundred is a joke.
Just think you're only 1 step below the top of the line 3 years into it's lifespan. Even by next gen you'll still probably be on the higher end of midrange. Damn good investment I'd say.
@@devilmikey00 I figured it would be the case, here in Aussie land a 2080 costs now what the 1080ti cost when I picked it up. On water cooling too so should last many years. On the downside, It's paired with a 8700k which while still good, has been outshone pretty quickly
@@devilmikey00 1080ti is only 2 years old. Idiots like you need to stop acting like the 1080ti came out with the rest of Pascal, it didn't. Pascal launched in 2016, yes, but the 1080ti was a 2017 launched card.
Love that you're able to push this content without manufacturerer bias. Bought some more GN merch and the new toolkit, thanks for being a trustworthy source. ❤️
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I think you should've done a 30 seconds review saying "It's 4-9% faster, it's $700. Thanks for watching, subscribe for more..."
Edit: oh this blew up. Avoiding getting clapped by RUclips's algorithm is as easy as adding 9 mins 31 secs of Snowflake footage afterwards.
Yeah but that wouldn't generate any revenue. So they had to go over the magical 10 minute mark that RUclips requires.
Then someone would complain that they didnt get to see the numbers to prove it.
That would have been well below the 10 minute mark, and RUclips's algorithm punishes that.
That would have been HILARIOUS
@@krazyfrog Revenue from what? I didn't get any ads during the entire video, not even in incognito mode with all extensions switched off
"I am sorry we have wasted your time."
This is why we love Tech Jesus.
hes the tech messiah.
Even when frustrated and a little angry, he still manages to keep a smile on his face.
No overclocking but you show the 2070 super/1080ti overclocked to make the 2080super look miniscule.
Terrible review
agreed
@@chaython Add another 4%. If you can do math, you know where it would be.
Way to go Nvidia, you upset tech Jesus.
And thee hath been smited as thine scripture has fortold.
And to them that sold RTX 2080 Super videocards he said: Take these things hence, and make not the house of my Father a house of traffic.
Michel van Briemen you mean a house of box screens.
I'm genuinely upset at what you just said.
Charging too much money? - their decision. It's bad business in the long run, but maybe they had no choice and I don't know about it.
Using shady tactics to establish a monopoly? - they were already roasted for it all over youtube.
Upsetting Steve? - Now I'm mad.
Ohhh no... Not tech Jesus!
SUPER review Steve :)
*sniffs the wind* I feel a meme coming.
I see what you did there.
1080 ti looks to have been the buy of the decade for me. Right before the prices went super nova.
They basically shot them selfs in the foot with the 1080ti. Its just too good
I envy everyone who bought this GPU at launch. It still sells for min. 60% MSRP two years after its release. When I bought my 980Ti in summer 2017 I paid ~350€ for it, including a Watercool block and shipping. 😁 I guess a 1080Ti will stay strong at ~500€ until Ampere comes out next year.
@@BenjaminSebek Thats completely bullshit that its still this high tbh, i smell something fishy, something's not right
@@kiwicami287 i guess it's still high because it's still good, as nvidia hasn't released something much better for a reasonable price.
exactly i got two and havent felt the slightest need to RTX my quake
imagine you are looking this review because there is no other card to buy.
Lol I’m here 4months after u
@@MrAlejandro1ro just bought my 2080 super for £600 lets see how it goes lol
@@RedolentSpore could’ve bought a 1080 TI for $500
@@RedolentSpore I OC mine a bit and it runs pretty cool way bett5er than my rx 570 it replaced. How are you doing with it?
I really loved Steve`s out rage in the end! :D
Tech Jesus has spoken!
he get red latern ring along with indego ring
I have never seen this guy so completely fucking done with something. It was amazing.
and the way he manhandles that $700 card lol
I'm cracking up
Steve you did not waste our time, seeing you rant and complain was worth every minute.
Rocket League Revolution 500th like...your welcome
@@tonybalognamacaroni3402 what about his welcome?
All I've got is time Steve, I'm currently sitting on the toilet.
Bro same
10 months ago u were takin a doodoo
Bean Bros bro that’s romantic
Me too lmao 😂
Same
I'm gonna wait for the 2080 ti super duper
Underrated
Nah, I'm sure the 2080 xti super d-duper will be released soon after.
You must have a super duper budget lol
I'll wait for the 2080 Ti Saiyan mode. Hope my rig isn't going to be very loud and doesn't blow up.
I'm gonna wait for the 2080 ti super duper pooper scooper edition
box quote:
"it's phenomenally boring" - GN
This reminds me of the Taco Bell business model. Rearrange about 8 total ingredients to present a menu of 20 plus items. Gives the consumer the illusion of choice.
FortuneSeek3rz not a valid comparison a crunchwrap supreme does not taste the same as a cheesy gordita crunch. By your logic all burgers or steaks taste the same since they all share the same major ingredients across variants but anyone who ever had a burger before knows that doesn’t apply.
@@Tony-yn5rr Negative ghost rider. What tastes similar and different will vary widely among test subjects. The experience manufactured in the gustatory cortex is not what I'm debating. It's the ingredients themselves that repeat. Chicken, beef, cheese, tomatoes, lettuce, taco sauce, sour cream. Whether the "bun" is a gordita, chalupa or a hard or soft taco shell is a miserly way to present choice to the unassuming customer.
*Nvidia graphics dept sample list:*
Jayztwocents
Linus x2 (in case he drops it)
-HardwareUnboxed-
-GamersNexus-
Bitwit
Paul's Hardware
If that's the case then it is clear we should support HardwareUnboxed and GamersNexus .
These guys are running a risk of falling out of grace with tech companies when they say it like it is. Nothing a little patreonage won't help :)
@@bappyplays
When it's a cpu/gpu review, people, the learned ones, will watch HardwareUnboxed and Gamersnexus, again and again.
Science Studio is good too, but yes gamersnexus and hardwareunboxed first
Also add reviewers who dont get paid to make videos. Lol they usually tell the truth
2 1/2 years
10-15% performance increase
Same $700 price
*-27% VRAM capacity increase*
Ouch... please keep the salt away
10-15% more performance? that's lenient.
@@dAt3q I threw in the 15% to account for games that realy like Turing, like Wolfenstein II.
@@DrearierSpider1 Hardware Unboxed said it is around 9% faster
Raise it 27% = next year RTX 3080 TI
When trying to watch video on how the super card is pointless, getting 3 super ads from nvidia....
the only time wehre the super cards are useful, is the better performance for the price, which is far better for people with older hardware (980/1080 users) that want to upgrade
@ prefer to give that ad money to the channel, and was just pointing out the adds that popped in correlation to the video
Exactly right. Im moving from my 980m alienware to an rtx 2080, def worth it ( dont worry im not a corporarion cuck) its that in my current situation, family is supplementing my purchases with me paying them back, and they are brand whores. They dont realize that corps eventually lose sight of what they were and we have to move on. Famy insisted i get a laptop, so i said rtx 2080, so its eorth it moving from 980m to rtx 2080, but the super does just seem like a waste
@@Tallnerdyguy then just find $5 on the street and donate it to him on patreon, you've just donated over a years' worth of ads.
@@TheWizardBen the 2080 super is not an acceptable upgrade from a 1080 gtx a 980 maybe but not a 1080
Watching you being bothered to even bother, was more fun than the info you provided
I didn't mind the length of the video. As a 1080ti owner i get all warm and fuzzy inside watching this.
Same. 550 bucks (gently used Strix OC card on eBay) well spent.
Same here. I bought a 1080Ti shortly after launch when they were still hard to find (got lucky checking one morning and got my order in just in time). Turns out I bought at the right time.
@@based_will Same. Bought a 1080Ti Strix used and put a used EKWB block on it. Awesome card with 11GB VRAM.
Same, i got a very good condition 1080ti zotac amp core extreme for 475 off craigslist a few months ago
Same , love it ! 2 years 2 months later my Galax 1080Ti EXOC Black still cranking out those frames !!!!!
I made promise to my self, that after 1080ti i will never buy Nvidia card again.
And Nvidia is doing all in its power to help me keep that promise. 🤦♂️
Yup... Same here.
Once my 3.5gb GTX 970 dies I'll never purchase Nvidia again.
@@acidspaz4252 In the same boat as you. Just can't decide whether to switch or not when the custom designs release or play the wait and see game longer.
well good luck with that since AMD is still behind.
@@xaydegonzalez6007 Amd isn't a bad option at all. They are slowly catching up.
LMAO
We need more sleep deprived, frustrated and bored Steve content.
Yes Steve, please. This guy might punch a wall or something.
So you are asking Steve to torture himself for your entertainment?
@@profblack I think he already did, at this point, a punch to the wall might be considered a way to release his stress, I wont be mad if he wants to do it if they ever release a GTX 1660 TI Super.
The first Gamers Nexus video I ever watched was "28 Cores of Bullshit" and I was hooked - I live for videos where Steve is grumpy and shits on a product.
I love it when Steve is just straight frustrated at nonsensical hardware. Let the GN team sleep Nvidia, jezz.
Nvidia - *Here you go*
Stops sending review units!
Wouldn't call it "nonsensical", it's a faster 2080 for the same (launch) price. Nothing wrong with that, it's just a boring unit for a reviewer.
Are capable of thinking for yourself?
How is this nonsensical? Do you know what nonsensical means? Ffs the masses are getting even dumber.
This isn't nonsensical. It is 10% faster than an overclocked 1080Ti out of the box, has RT/DLSS, is more power efficient and has a new encoder.
You should put "It's 4 to 9 percent faster" on a shirt.
Steve, you really a good man to us.
And sorry, I can’t stop laughing every time you throw the card onto the table.
"...and it's seven hundred dollars!" *SLAM!!!*
So, what you mean is that they just build a 1080ti with 27% VRAM decrease?
Cheers Steve, quality content as usual.
You didnt wasted our time, Nvidia wasted yours.
The issue is not the VRAM, 11GB is kinda overkill anyway. The issue is that it's just kind of a refresh. Boring release
*you didnt waste our time.*
proud 1080ti aorus user here. not gonna upgrade soon haha
@Raging YT You fail to grasp the fact that its 1080ti with LESS memory that cost MORE, 2 years after 1080ti was released. Absolutely retarded product that's only isn't laugh at because they have a monopoly on top performance segment.
@@ryusei9941 strix version, yea i bough it for, 2 years till 4k 144hz... but at this rate im keeping it at least 5 years...
I get that but, in my case, coming from a GTX 1080 with Max-Q I find it more worthy to upgrade to a 2080 Super rather than a standard 2080 or, worse, a 1080 Ti. That's why these reviews are still important and relevant.
You know it's redundant when even Steve only talks about it for 10 mins
Steve @Games Nexus : We Get It, NVIDIA, You can Make a 1080 Ti
Steve @Hardware Unboxed : We Miss the 1080 Ti
Haha, likeminded steves
I'm another Steve, and I love my 1080Ti @2050MHz. Cheers!
Great Steves think alike
got my 1080ti used from ebay a month before RTX was released for $475 and it was the best investment I ever made considering after the launch the 1080ti sky-rocketed.
So my 1080Ti is not outdated!? Awesome :D
It can’t raytrace well,
Oh wait, the new ones don’t either....
I guess you’re still good to go!
@@jakegarrett8109
Well technically they do but nothing is using them and it's useless for anything other than gaming atm soooooo yeeeaaaa. . .
Jake Garrett there are raytracing drivers for pascal, they utilize the cuda cores instead of the rt cores.
@@jakegarrett8109 The RTX cards are bad for RT workload and the GTX Pascals are absolutely abyssmal for it.
J.A PCMR @Bojun Choi @Delimon007
Woosh... My comment apparently flew over most people (woo! As an aerospace engineer I finally got something to fly, lol!). Keyword was “well”, I’m aware my Titan Xp could run raytracing at a cinematic (or photographic...) 3 fps, and yes, even quake from just after the DOS days when people were aiming with keyboard number pad still makes a Titan RTX crawl on its knees with Ray-tracing enabled. I was making a satirical comment about the new gen RTX cards, you’ll probably spot it now, apparently it was a bit less obvious than I meant to make it though.
May your resolution be high and frame times low, cheers!
LOL, I love that while everyone is putting on their best game face and doing everything standard, Steve is 10,000% done with this.
Can't wait to see the GTX 1660 Ti Super
GTX 1660 Ti Super 12GB 16GB/s DDR7 Sucker Edition
Cant wait to see 5900xt
The video starts at 3:47
He just repeats himself for the first 3 1/2 minutes
thanks, holy crap, you'd think the 2080s attacked his family or something lol.
@@brendanp1770 Yeah man he's sour. Sucks to watch.
Rtx 2080 ti super ex plus alpha... Champion edition 2.
Pffft that's so last gen. I got a Super RTX 2080 TI Mega Ultra Championship TurboTax Edition
that sounds like an xfx product
And sonic
I'm waiting for the OMEGA V3.
I stopped paying attention to the naming back when Ti got tacked on. Just focus on what games and monitor you have, and get a card that floats around max refresh rate.
i was thinking to change my GTX 1080 to a RTX 2080Super.... now the only thing that changed is my mind..
same here
Sensible. Lol...you guys really haven't been given a reason to upgrade in the past year at all.
Yeah im still chilling with the 1080, nothing is really standing out as a decent upgrade for the price
It would be a good upgrade.
@@jones77wrx not for the $1350 AUD ($945 USD) they want for them here in Aus
Long live the 1080 ti, it was an excellent buy.
Same price though
@@CommonSenserules1981 recently got a new pc with a 1080ti for 900$ (2 years old) , pretty good snipe. Got my other 1080ti for 400$ 1 year back (also about 2 years old at the time) which i use in my main pc. so now i got a 2man lan setup, life's good
@@Ymsee You seem running Sli?
The 1080ti isn't as good as the 2080Super and it has been just as pricy. And you can't buy them new anymore. So.. Hm
@@CommonSenserules1981 so? It came out like 3 years earlier and it has more VRAM.
So for the same price, you got the same performance 3 years earlier with more VRAM.
@@SPIRIT-117 You dont get the same performance at all - The 2080yi beats the 1080 .. EASY..
And more Vram means very little, it does not give you more fps. Just look at the benchmarks.
For the same price, the 1080ti is shit...
keeping my 1080 for atleast one more gen i think
I have 1080 too, and this all rtx stuff is fun but there are no games out there which actually uses them, further games simply haven't caught up, I believe we can play all modern titles at high graphics and great fps with 1070ti, 1080 and above so simply no reason to upgrade or if someone actually cares about 150 fps to 180 fps worth 600-700 dollars
well i keep my HD 6970 till May 2019
Yep, my 1080ti just doesn't even have a worthy competitor for a fair price
@@BenQuigley And won´t for a lot of time most likely.
If you must.. After next gen consoles arrive it would be good for 1080p gaming but not much more..
Actually one of your better videos hahaha. Your passion just increased by at least 4-9%
lol
Nvidia: Releases borderline EXACT SAME card each year.
Tech RUclipsrs: WHERE YOU AT AMD.
Smfh
DLSS 2.0 changes everything. I don't think this review is relevant anymore.
@@xiuxiu1108 It changes nothing. I tried in Control and it gave me comparably worse picture quality than native resolution.
Nvidia has four cards that fit into the same performance level. lol
GTX 1080 Ti, RTX 2080, RTX 2080 Super and... ?
@@Winnetou17 2070 Super
Just shows their greed, I will not buy from Ngreedia no matter what. They would have to compete with AMD in cost to performance to actually persuade me to consider green team. Why would I get any of the 1080ti clones when I can get a 5700XT and overclock it, I save at least 100 dollars! When the 5800 comes out, hopefully this year, I really don't see how nvidia will do anything useful.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 2070 super makes u future proof. Amd trash doesn't even compete current gen
Five, you're forgetting the Titan XP.
Nvidia pulling an Intel: lack of innovation when there is no competition
Nvidia = Intel = Apple = EA
@@NatrajChaturvedi Apple just takes the cake imo. $999 for a stand, not even EA can top that.
@@ETin6666 :
>$999.00 for a stand, not even EA can top that.
[insert "hold my beer" meme]
Put down the crack pipe.
Amd will do the same they did to intel but with nvidia. Atleast i hope so.
dont worry, at some point theyll gimp the 1080ti drivers and youll have to upgrade to "keep up". meanwhile ill have my 1060 6gb still 😂
The PR department iver at NVidias must be in meltdown after watching this, best part is that they can’t touch GN for it or they’ll be called out on that by the viewers and customers. Good job Steve as always.
From what I've heard, Hardware Unboxed bashed Nvidia GPUs so bad that Nvidia stopped giving them review units.
meh, I believe they are 100% predicting of how bad the market will react to this, but they also know that no one can do shit about it since AMD is weak here.
@@H4444-f7g AMD isn't really weak in my opinion, but Nvidia doesn't have competition after the 2070 Super and they're capitalizing on the lack of competition. It's messed up in a way but it's business so you can't complain too much.
My fav part is how SOMEHOW the 2080 super several times came in with worse 1% and 0.1% lows, like WTF?! Why do I want a card that has MORE frame time inconsistency Nvidia?!
John Galt are you delusional or just extremely slow? “Nvidia is a waste,” what are you even trying to say? I love my Nvidia products
I bought a 1080ti a few years ago and still have no reason to buy anything else for 1440p gaming. Not a single worthwhile reason.
@Taylor Green How much did you buy the 1080 ti though
@Taylor Green
You made back some lost money, not profiting.
You certainly paid more than 625USD for the 1080Ti.
@Taylor Green
Oh founder. Only good for watercooling.
@Taylor Green founders cards ars actually the best cards you have to change the cooler though becuase nvidia likes to sell their own best cards.
@@wordpotions i found you can turn off MSAA at 4k and not tell a difference because of the sheer amount of pixels. Gives a decent bump to performance, GTA V runs at around 90fps when setup that way
I feel content to watch this review with my GTX1080 Ti tho.
4:00 frametime consistency seems to be way worse than on the regular 2080. Look at the .1% lows!
it is very weird 1% and .1% of 2080 compared to 2080ti
Maybe bad thermals on the FE card?
@Thomas Foster No that gets worse as you push cards closer to their stability limits. Overclocking cards does that too.
@Thomas Foster Yes it is worse. The AMD RX 590 had the same issue. It was just an overclocked RX 580 which was an overclocked RX 480. Some cards have the headroom for it some don't. People want high clocks even when they don't make sense and they'll pay extra for it.
Next time Steve Nvidia will send you shit in a flaming bag.
Loved that intro.
That would actually be more interesting than a 2080 super.
At least Steve can talk about the motivation of Nvidia rep in doing this, and why is this shit, why is this a flaming bag......etc
Hole up, why am I commenting about a piece of flaming shit?
Bahahaha every new nVidia announcement makes me happier with my 1080Ti purchase.
how to buy it cheap and new?
CasualRUclipsr if you want cheap try Craigslist or letgo. You can find them pretty easily for $500 or maybe less if you can negotiate. If you want new then you are pretty much out of luck
Zotac sell factory refurbished ones with warranty for ~$600 from memory
I would say you are good for a little while with that card.
Looking forward to this card in the disappointment build for 2019!
Steven Hambleton not really disappointment class though; thee was no hype to begin with.
Pretty sure they will release their 3000 series already in early 2020 at least you can upgrade that Turing trash soon :-)
Seems pretty fine with higher end pc with rtx.
No hate but it might be the 5700xt with blower cooler because the cooler is bad
Radeon VII in all honesty should be in the build.
1TB bandwidth with 16gb of HBM2.
A new and improved 3 fan design.
and was going to DESTROY Nvidia's 2080......
It came out at the same price as a 2080, was slower than a 2080 and ran hot and loud stock. AND to top it off.....discontinued in 6 months because AMD came out with a cheaper card that can beat it.
This is one of the best reviews I've ever seen! Thank you for this!
I needed this laugh!
card may be boring to review, but it has great performance :)
Nvidia RTX 2080 Super: Phenomenally Boring
the one thing I wanted him to answer is the one thing he DIDN'T
whats the overclocking headroom look like? he basically said "stock it meets up mostly with your overclocked 2080"
thats great, but who the fuck runs a GPU at stock?
Nvidia RTX 2080 Super boring!!
@@Darthquackius The same as every other RTX card, so a couple percent.
@@bsodmike Same as Radeon VII in other words. At least it's faster than that piece of garbage which is EOL less than 6 months after launch.
@@LukewarmEnthusiast tbh I can understand why AMD released it, can't understand why anyone would want it. Cheap card for them as otherwise the chips would have been binned, as in thrown away, as they are no more than 'failed' Instinct MI50 CPU dies so they are a nice little earner.
At least you can look at your own disappointment on the mirror finish
its called buyers remorse lol
Steve wasn't disappointed. He was angry.
Ray tracing his hairworks
Lol at a 1080 ti owner waiting to upgrade. This video is hilarious.
"It's not a bad card , just phenomenally BORING "
~ Steve
@Middleman true
"AMD, please do something!" :D
amd has done a lot of things .. i am using a 5700xt . i undervolted it . bumped up the fan curve . i am fine at 1950mhz with 155w power .
The 5700XT is an incredibly good card, even though the price is a bit high for a midrange card. But equipped with an aftermarket cooler or a waterblock this little card is on the heels of a 2070Super. That's not bad, since the NV card is significantly more expensive. :)
Also it seems that you still cant memOC it because the drivers still don't allow for that. So there's even more hidden potential in it. I can't wait for bigNavi, RTG finally is on a good track. :)
Insert the "Come on. Do something" meme poking the AMD logo.
hwut? I don't think you've been paying attention lol
@@MuffinMan2860 The comment was over a year ago and amd had nothing to compete with high end gpus
@@pedromars8508 As long as we can both agree and understand that AMD had "high" end gpus at NVIDIAS mid range pricepont. That I think is the misconception.
Cyber Jesus said its 4-9% faster guys.
People: Looking at Steve and his 2080 Super
Me: Why does this man have a giant liquid nitrogen tank behind him?!
Over clocking cpus would be my guess.
T E r/whoooooosh
So if you want Nvidia, get the 2070 super. If you want AMD, wait for 3rd party versions of the 5700 XT.
true
@Conor the 2080ti makes me feel impotent....$1000+ for a gaming GPU is a sad thing and shouldn't exist.
@Conor because only idiots pay 1200 dollars for a video card that only has marginal improvements over cards at half the cost.
@Conor "just get a 2080 Ti"? Why don't you "just" get an RTX Titan (or 2) while you're at it?
This
I'll watch every last boring Review as long as there's a raging Steve in it :D
Here’s my problem. I get that this card is over priced and is not that much different from a 2080 or even a 1080ti just in terms of non RTX performance. But some people, me included are just building their pcs and don’t have access to a 1080ti and would obviously want to get a 2080 Super because it costs the same even if it is a small performance gap. However, there are no good reviews of this card because everyone is pissed at the performance compared to a 2080.
Ryan Vasei exactly
still waiting for a true successor to the GTX 1080Ti
not some overpriced crap that cost as much as previous Titans
Soon, gtx 1985
And rtx 2085
With 3% more speed
And 9% higher price
Soon : GTX 1983 TimeCop Ed.
#capitalismbaby
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 its not even capitalism. its lame marketing.
@@NoedigJK471 crappy marketing is a hallmark of capitalism, it's the foundation, it's bread and butter, one of the main tenants
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 no, man. you can have crappy marketing anywhere, not just capitalism.
basically, human nature.
"For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die-But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." -Romans 5:7-8
I was going to say "shut up, I care!"
Now it's more like "ok, you where right, I don't care"
Nvidia 2017: The 1070ti is the most pointless card ever.
Nvidia 2019: Hold my 2080 Super
I got myself a 1070ti last year after the price went down, i was upgrading from r9 280 lol, i got it because the 1080s were waaaaay too overpriced, something like over 600€ so 1070ti were the best bang for the buck and i basically have a 1080 for way cheaper, i think it was ~300€
The 1070ti was very exciting to many, a dream card for miners. The power efficient 1080 core, but with the much better for mining GDDR5! It blows away even my Titan Xp collectors edition in terms of the hash power for the then popular mining algorithms, and yet it used half the power! It was as if Nvidia made a card specifically for miners, and so it sold very well, although everything was being sold out back then (I bought a Titan Xp because number one: I’m a nerd and Star Wars fan, and number two: it was the only card at MSRP and actually cheaper than all but the 2 worst 1080ti models.... Mining demands took all the cards back then, and I sure didn’t want a $120 GT1030 potato for 4k gaming!)
Dunno where you got that the 1070ti was pointless..
Wait, did anyone actually buy the 1070Ti lmao! Why buy that, when you can buy a 1080 that does the same shit, except it's not overclocked, and can probably be overclocked if you want to but if not it'll last a hell of a lot longer than a 1070Ti, so it's basically useless af.
The 2080 Super is actually an upgrade at least and is lower than the price of a 1080Ti unless you buy used.
@@kiwicami287
Yea that's true, the prices for GPUs went through the roof
What's crazy is how far ahead the 2080ti is compared to everything else. For me that says that nvidia is just going to keep milking it for a while yet with cards which slowly close that gap. Really need AMD to come up with something of note to bring those prices down.
i came here thinking it was a scuffed TU102 with value. but it was just a full 104 :(
Me too, must've been those misleading leaks.
God we need more competition in the GPU space *_BADLY._*
5800xt and 5900xt
5700xt is 1080 performance for $399.
@@chickendinner5572 what a laugh :D
@@choatus why is that funny? You like paying 1400 dollars for a gpu?
@@chickendinner5572 if it gives me twice the performance of the competition for 3 or so more years before the competition can even match it then yes... but you do realise Nvidia will just bring out their next gen cards to beat Big Navi the minute they release right? they are irrelevant even before they have come out... It's sad...
Steve.....This whole vid is making me cry, it's just too funny !
"its FOUR to NINE percent FASTER". I could remember this
At the end part Steve sounded just like mom when we start discussing my life choices
Now that is just downright hilarious!!
So... its going to be a very long time until i find a reasonable replacement for my used $490 1080 ti.
3080
Me comparing 2080S with the 1080 ti:
Less VRAM, about 5% to 10% faster, Ray Tracing and GDDR6.
GTX 1080 ti: $500
RTX 2080S: $700
Price difference: 33%
Let me get a GTX 1080 ti please!
2070S still better
Can you really get a 1080Ti for $500? I thought they were hard to find.
@@Malus1531 zotac has been selling them for $430 at their refurbished store
@@Malus1531 Depends on the country.
In the US on the used market (ebay) I see them running between 470 to 600.
For some reason, brand new GTX 1080 ti are overpriced.
@@iCuStOmPR because they discontinued them to price fix 20 series
Yeah I'll just keep my actual 1080 Ti for a bit longer. lol
But... but muh rays!!!
@@DarkKitarist True true true
@@DarkKitarist just become a scripter and used C++ windows implementation and DX11/12 Bs the rays into the game by modifying how the 1080 ti interprets lights in the game. Jk, this is all BS, you need a tester card 1080ti and well, become a computer scientist/engineer. 🤣
@@DeMarki81 Me? Not at all. I am upgrading my 2600k to a 3700x, but the 1080 Ti is the only thing staying since it handles 3440x1440 with no problems.
@@CaseyHardman shaders are actually written in something like scripts so you weren't that far off. That being said when I saw thay we're doing realtime raytracing i was super happy! Imagine Ultima 3D and now Metro Exodus today.
If you can get a 1080 ti for 350 $ to 400$ used that would about best bang for your buck!
Yea that would be great, only they typically go for at least $450 on ebay and usually heavily mined on.
@@Niptonian9551 i bought one basicly new from a Dad that sold his sons stuff . he didnt even used the card i could tell and looked and smelled brandnew for 430€ .
And this is the day GN stopped receiving Nvidia samples lol I gues I can keep my 1080ti for at least another year
Jordan30589 not happening. GN’s been honest on the whole RTX thing ever since launch. That time he did the Tom’s Hardware RTX critique is forever etched in my mind and had me laughing for weeks.
nvidia also know that GN would just buy the cards anyways. That's what they did when they got in to trouble over the case review in 2017
At this rate the next x060 card is going to cost like $1000
Yep i expect just that!
I actually just checked based on old reviews of non Founders edition BS
2014 GTX 970 $350
2016 GTX 1070 $460
2018 RTX 2070 $630
Sure they are faster but at this point they are not really replacing the same model
@@pedromvuus 1660ti is $279 and is slightly faster or roughly equivalent to a 1070.
@@lorenhusky2717 It's all tactics, man. Don't fall for it. you are strong than you think.
This video didn’t age well.
God help Nvidia if AMD's add-in-board partners do a good stable overclock and provide some really good cooling to an RX5700XT and it comes close to a 2080 Super while being almost $300 less...
lets just hope for it
The number of times Tech Jesus slammed the card on the table, regardless of how uninteresting the card itself is, made me extremely anxious.
Rerefence GPU's are fucking tanks, especially those with backplates. Only the PCIE connecter is vulnerable!
Sounds like a personal problem...
I've only seen a few of his videos. Is throwing video cards down a thing because I've seen it on a few videos.
@@SnipesXxX He's kinda always done it to a degree, but then people whined about it. So I'm pretty sure he continues to do it just to fuck with people, and because he always has since it really doesn't matter. Same with "too much thermal paste"
Thank _you_ for your time, Steve. Upgrading from a 970, this was very useful in showcasing just how out-of-date my machine really is! I'm looking forward to building a system with this card.
So glad I paid 500$ last year for a 1080ti. Lol practically the same performance with my OC and more vram.
Not sure what's your point but the OP didn't do anything wrong. Personally, I would purposly buy an used 1080 Ti over any RTX GPU. Don't care what other people think.
@str actually no I did not.... The guy I bought it from did. :) I just bought it from some dude randomly. Besides he might have stolen it for all we know. I bought second hand because Nvidia already made money either way I just got a deal. Today 500$ is decent for a 1080ti so I dont regret anything. Thanks for the reply tho! Have a great day str :)
@@forestmanzpedia Agreed RTX isnt a very good launch. Love your name btw man hilarous to respond RUclips is like freaking out lol.
@str he probably bought it used at that price. Nvidia got nothing.
If you're not upgrading, and was looking at the 2080 for a complete new build, then only this card makes sense. Then again, 4-9% better for $700 doesn't make sense.
It doesn't ever make sense to use this card
Moody Laff why not?
Nope especially when you are already getting frame rates in the hundreds and max settings. Unless you have a super high end monitor or a professional the improvements are marginal at best.
@uP-Andre lol way less
Your frustration at how boring this review was actually made it more interesting than most normal reviews. I skipped the benchmarks and was otherwise thoroughly entertained.
Every reviewer of this card did the same shtick. I love how they are bored by the second fastest consumer card ever released, coming in at 699 bucks. Stupid pretentious reviewers and the sheep that love them.
My OC'ed and shunt modded custom water cooled 1080 Ti, which i have since release, laughs basically xD
Haha exactly my 1080ti with a nice OC is still waiting for a real chance to upgrade... I assume they will drop their 3000 series with 7nm EUV in early 2020 I want a 3080ti for Cyberpunk 2077 :-)
Yeah but the 2080 super I ordered will be better than your weak 1080ti, too bad you dont have ray tracing.
@@gcur Well, you should have saved around 2500 bucks by then... xD
@@K12-n5l the 1080ti does ray tracing.
@@gcur You really do not get much performance gain out of 7nm. Mainly just smaller chips and better power consumption. They might actually loose per core performance but they can fit more cores. Which is exactly what AMD is going to do soon. Add more cores. Vega has more cores than the 5700xt. This was just a means to compete in the price range most people buy while they work on better yields. The people buying in that price range generally upgrade often anyway if the gain is good.
Best review in a long time :) LOL made me smile and laugh...
Instead of throwing the card around, banging it on the desk.. why dont you send it to me. i cant afford 1200, i cant afford 600, and cant find cards anyway because of crypto-folk (i say that nicely). I promise i wont complain about it. Its worth my time.. if you test it or not.
"Phenomenally Boring" sounds like you dont want it.
What I want to know is how it overclocks!
Yeah my 2080 probably matches it in most cases because its heavily overclocked, but if you heavily overclock it where does it end up?
Eh. At that tier of performance, who cares about overclocking
still no reason whatsoever to switch from watercooled 1080 Ti
Yes cranking a evga 1080ti ftw3 hybrid 800 bucks new year and half ago. No need to upgrade with the crap Nvidia has produced. Want a 2080ti but 1200 hundred is a joke.
The card nobody cares about..... Except it's now the only card worth a dam that's affordable.
it was more interesting seeing the numbers of 5700/XT vs 2070/S again.-
more like RTX 2080 Super Boring®
from the future this card is worth more than what I paid for it more than a year later how well the world gone mad
Uninteresting? Steve this is the best review I’ve seen out of the 6 I’ve watched!
Love your work mate!
uninteresting card, interesting review
I think my 1080ti will live in the system for a LONG time at this rate, it better too considering how much it cost.
Just think you're only 1 step below the top of the line 3 years into it's lifespan. Even by next gen you'll still probably be on the higher end of midrange. Damn good investment I'd say.
@@devilmikey00 I figured it would be the case, here in Aussie land a 2080 costs now what the 1080ti cost when I picked it up. On water cooling too so should last many years. On the downside, It's paired with a 8700k which while still good, has been outshone pretty quickly
@@devilmikey00 1080ti is only 2 years old. Idiots like you need to stop acting like the 1080ti came out with the rest of Pascal, it didn't. Pascal launched in 2016, yes, but the 1080ti was a 2017 launched card.
@2:15 - between 4 and 9% faster than a 2080 and that's all I need to know, I guess I can stop watching here xD
Love that you're able to push this content without manufacturerer bias. Bought some more GN merch and the new toolkit, thanks for being a trustworthy source. ❤️
meanwhile low budget gamers are twiddling their thumbs waiting for something exciting low down again.
Yeah. I just want a Graphics Card priced below $300 that doesn't suck. :)
Everytime someone compares a new card to a 1080ti I look at mine and chuckle. Best computer part I have ever bought at this point.
they have the tech for 8k 60fps,, how long they going to make us wait
Hawk Eyes no they don’t
We dont even have the tech for 4k ultra settings at 144 fps.... 8k will not be possible at playable frames for a while
Ray tracing is the way to go IMO.
Oh my god the intro just in point love it