How To Use the Bialetti Venus Moka Pot Espresso Coffee
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The Bialetti Venus Moka Pot combines beauty and elegance in a tastefully designed stove-top espresso maker with a unique style. The Venus can produce a rich, authentic Italian espresso in just 4-5 minutes.
The Venus beautiful stove-top espresso maker body is constructed completely made from high quality 18/10 stainless steel (including all internal parts). The Venus can be used on gas, electric, and induction stoves.
You can use the Venus on any burner or induction which allows this versatile unit to be used anywhere. Simply add water to the bottom chamber up to the release level and add your coffee into the stainless steel filter. Do not tamp the coffee as water must easily flow through. Screw the Venus back together and place the Venus on a stove top. If using a gas or flame please ensure the flame is not larger then the base of the moka pot. The water pressure will increase which will cause the value to release and the water will move through the coffee grounds. Then the coffee will push to the top chamber through the valve. Once you hear a gurgling sound your Moka Pot is complete, stir the coffee in the chamber to equalise the flavours. Enjoy the great Italian coffee.
Cleaning is easy however we recommend not using a washing machine, wire or rough brush. Instead use a soft brush to clean your Venus.
BIALETTI VENUS - ALL SIZES FEATURES
Tasty Stovetop Espresso - Brews rich and balanced stovetop espresso that’s delicious on its own or add hot water or milk.
Simple Brewing Process - Add water, add coffee, heat, and in 4-6 minutes you have coffee.
Stainless Steel Build - Durable, easy to clean, and stylish in any kitchen.
Induction Stove Compatible - Works will all stove types including induction stove tops (2 Cup model excluded).
Ergonomic Handle - Counterweighted and shaped to make pouring coffee feel natural.
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Excellent product. I had my first cup of coffee using the Bialetti Venus. So good!
Great to hear!
My mom had one of those, I took it and was worried that I ground my beans up too fine. Turns out they were better that way! Thanks for the video!
You are so welcome!
Have this and I aboslutely love it! Would reccomend to anyone. I am actually sipping espresso as I am writing this. Happy brewing
Thanks for sharing!
Ordered mine. Great video. Thx
Hope you enjoy it!
I have purchased the same pot as in your excellent demonstration. However I have noticed that it has a logo in the top of the filter which is raised and looks like it it made of a very loose metal leaf? I am not confident of using it. I noticed in yours that was not there? I am thinking of taking it back to the shop.
Am I supposed to pull the pressure out just a bit on my Venus 4 cup bialetti? Why doesn't my top chamber not spew foam when brewing?
The instructions show to pull out the tab on the side. Is this needed? Also, do you know what pulling it out accomplishes? Thank you!
Thank youuuu for this video!!!!
Any time!
If only Bialetti had thought to put a heat proof handle on the lower part. How simple and also quick to connect the two parts when hot, instead of fussing around with a tea towel, especially near a gas top!
Totally agree
Very helpful, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I just purchased this after watching the video. I have a question if anyone can help. I have been using Venus 4 cup for two days. On the first day, both hole or “nozzle” were pouring out the coffee and I use electric stove and set the heat to level 3 (there are 7 level). But on the second day, I used the venus on the different burner but set the heat to level 2. I noticed that only one hole or nozzle was releasing the coffee. Is it because of the burner didnt have enough heat? Or is it because of bialetti? Like dirty or something stuck on one side?
Note that the 2-cup version doesn't work on induction stoves (or it's not guaranteed to work, though some report they could get it recognized there too). For the 4-cup I use 1000 W to heat up and turn down the energy once coffee starts coming out, then turn it off. Induction heats up the bottom part a lot, so warning, don't touch it or you can get burned.
Don't grind the coffee too fine, otherwise it could go through the holes and into your cup.
great info thanks 👌
@@AlternativeBrewing hello, i just buyed 6 cup Venus. After my water measurement (under valve) i can say it fits 290 ml of water. Can you tell me please, how many grams of coffee do i need for 290 ml of water? And also, how much coffee (ml) it supposed to be at finish? Thank you :)
The espresso brewed in the video does not have a solid layer of crema on top. With my old-school aluminum Moka pot I am often able to get this, but I don't feel like getting Alzheimer's down the line from continuing to use an aluminum pot for my espresso, so, now I'm trying the stainless steel pot.
Also, with the aluminum pot, I've gotten the best results by having the extremely fine ground coffee -- closer to a Greek or Turkish grind -- in a heaping mound on top of the basket. In this video the guy making the espresso has the ground coffee level with the top of the basket.
Any thoughts on this? Thanks.
Don't press it. Every Italian will say the same. Water just below the valve, to touch it but not to come to the middle of it. Really low fire, ideally gas cause you can regulate the temp. better. On a ceramic stove, I use one ring to heaten up the water and then I put on the other one which is on low temperature... Because it cannot cool down so fast, so the coffee will go out too quickly. Oh believe me, I've mastered this :D
Recommended commercial coffees for this coffee pot - Lavazza Red (70%arabica30%robusta) and Gold (100%arabica), the basic Lavazza is not so good, Pellini top (this one is great).
thanks for this! what are you referring to when you say “ Don’t Press it” ?
@@mariana7802 ground Coffee I guess
@@mariana7802 After you fill the basket, just straighten off the coffee with your finger, don't press it down. It causes a lot of problems with the brew
The way you put the coffee in this it pushes it down for you, without you doing anything the coffee get's compacted, it's part of the design.
@@mariana7802 if you press the grounds in the basket, you need higher pressure, higher pressure means higher temperature, higher temperature higher extractions and that leads to bitter coffee.
It's got weight and feel solid, quality make
The one in the video is different from the one at the website. And I want the one in this video.
Hi, what setting should I have my Porlex Tall II Coffee Grinder with the Bialetti Venus. If you could let me know your recommendation that would be great!
Thanks
Hi Anthony, I would use a setting of 2-3 clicks 👌
I have the same model for 6 cups. Any tips on measuring the coffee and especially the water if I want to make only 2 cups?
Yes 😀 Water in the mug first, measure the amount you want - than add a little bit more. It's about 8g of coffee per cup ... or a good heaped table spoon. Generally though I wouldn't recommend brewing anything less than half the Moka Pot's capacity. Give two cups a go, but if it doesn;t work out - it'll be because theres not enough coffee and water being used 👍
Love my Venus Pot. Love it. I was brewing coffee, neighbor talked to me too long. Burned the outside bottom of my pot. Is there any way i can clean it? Get the scorched look off and back to clean bright stainless? Thanks.
Do a search on You tube how to clean burnt stainless steel stains
Do you know how to change the filter on these models in inbox. It seems more complicated than for the classic models. I would like to see a video on the changing of the filter.....
Hi Tim, I usually use a fork or something to pry the silicone seal out from the housing and than the S/S filter should pop out with it 👍
Mine is usually done brewing around 2 minutes. I preheat the water extremely hot and preheat the stovetop on max. Otherwise the flavor would just taste burnt if I left it on the glass stovetop for any longer.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing - I'll have to try that 👌
Thanks for the video. I’m only getting half a pot each time. Any suggestions for what I could be doing wrong? Perhaps the coffee is too fine. Out of 10 how fine should the beans be ground? Thanks
I'd grind them to around a 2 to 3 out of ten. Using Cold water to begin with may assist in a longer and better brew too 👌
Measure you volume. 4 cups is only 120ml of brewed coffee. They are espresso cups remember. The top chamber should be only halfway full so the hot coffee doesn’t spurt out and burn you.
Amazon just delivered my Bialetti Venus 6 cup. Tried right away and it had two small gasket leaks! Yeah it was tight no grounds on mating surfaces, I’ll try again tomorrow morning!
Thanks for sharing
Alternative Brewing All is well, guess the gasket needed a little break in
Hi, same problem - on third brew now only tiny leak of steam/water at the join. I'm hoping this will stop....
I have a Venus and I’m using it on a gas burner. It makes only just enough coffee for one cup. I would have got at least two normal cups out of the equivalent size in my old unbranded moka pot (I think it is a 6 espresso cup size). The Venus always has water in the chamber at the bottom still. I suspect it is getting worse. Does anyone know what is going on? It is quite new and so frustrating. I only switched pots because the other poured very badly and would make a big mess.
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Just a follow up question.
The Bialetti instructions sheet that was inside the box, instructs to make 3 cups of coffee & discard. What's your opinion?
That is correct
I do everything as per the video says still my coffee making takes a good 15 mins. When i purchased it it was all fine.
Anyone has any idea what it could be???
Smthing clogged??
What is the major difference between this one (the Venus) and the Bialetti Moka Induction you also have listed? Is one better than the other?
The Size of the filter baskets vs. the water compartments generally speaking. - so you get a different brew ratio. Otherwise it's the aesthetics and things like the handle design e.t.c
Hi, I have been happily using my Bialetti 4 cup in stainless for about 9 years with no problems and I love it and the incredible coffee it produces. My question is lately it is not brewing the strong coffee I have been used to. Do you know what the problem might be? I am planning to find replacement rubber gaskets but am wondering if I should try to clean the valve at the same time. If so can you do a demo on how to do this correctly?
Yes, give it a good clean with the gasket and seal out - under some how water will remove any coffee oils that might be slowing down the brew. With a new seal and gasket- with it washed - there shouldn't be any reason it doesn't work like new again 👍
No! Do not meddle with the valve - it is a safety device. If your brew is not as intense as you're used to then the gasket may have failed or may not be correctly seated. Alternatively, the filter may be clogged and require cleaning by soaking in vinegar to remove limescale. Replacement gaskets and filters are available from Bialetti.
It's hard to tell when to turn off the heat and when to remove from the heat to get a nice strong cup of coffee. It's easier when using the Moka pot Express (aluminum). Basically when the liquid turns a light colour.
I guess the best way to remove it is watch it, and once you see the foam around the tube coffee comes out of, remove from the heat. This is possibly a cue/clue to remove it right here and then and not later.
Does this steel ones still have a plastic ring in the upper part? I dont like heat plastic parts
No it does not. There is only the Silicon seal that does not really come in to contact with the water.
thank you! is there a table that says how much you really get in a cup (ml or g) with the 2c, 4c, 6c and 10c because i have the feeling that the manufacturer's data is disputed.
I have another video that talks about this. It's about 30-40ml per cup stated.
Hi Joshua, I always have about 30ml of water left In the base. Is it normal? Thanks.
Hi Annie, yes, it can be for sure. I make a moka pot every morning and there is always varying amounts left in the bottom. If the espresso is too short up top perhaps adding that extra 30ml of water in to begin may help 😀
Do you know what's the point of that groove around inside of the top chamber? it's really hard to clean
No i don't - and yes, it's frustrating to clean!
Hey I purchased the 6 cup one and filled the basket with cafe bustelo - filled with hot water in the bottom, did a medium heat on an electric stove and only got 2 oz out of it. I’m a little confused and wondering what I’ve done wrong? Any help would be appreciated thank you
Nice slow and low heat will get more out 👍
Question: I'm looking to buy, but would like to know if the larger pot can be used to make less coffee? Put another way, if I maintain the coffee to water ratio, but use less of each, will the machine still make good espresso if the coffee basket isn't filled to level at the top?
yes, only as low as 50% of its capacity : as a rule 👍
I have the Bialetti 3-cup stove top moka pot. Soon to be moving house which only has electric and no gas, meaning no stove top!
Is it more worth my time getting one of those induction plate things to place under my current moka pot, or just buying a new induction suited moka? Thanks
Get an induction suited Moka 100% Those plates work okay but take away some of the heat, can stain the induction stovetop and get really hot themselves.
What is the difference between the Venus model and the new Venus model?
I dont have a Bialetti model but I am getting steam coming out the side in one area of the pot. The coffee does not brew when this happens ?. I have cleaned the gasket, and make sure its screwed down tight and it's not that old, any suggestions ?
Screw it down tighter? - Replace the seal or keep the heat down on low and see if it still happens before the coffee brews ? - The moka pots are only rated to a certain pressure and anything above that will let the pressure valve open - or leak from the seal 👌
Hi! I would like to know how/if you can replace the silicone filter ring on the top part of the Bialetti. How often should you do it? I know on the aluminum ones, it comes off easily. Mine stainless steel Venus is new so the silicone filter seems firmly secure. Is there a way to replace this? Thanks!
Hi there, there sure is. You can replace them as they need it. They are not easily removed but can be gently plucked out using a flat head screwdriver or something similar. - This so you can can regularly clean it. If done so, this will keep the seal lasting for longer.
In most cases you shouldn't need to replace the seal under 5yrs of use - but if it has become rock hard, brittle or has broken bits of the seal coming off it - no longer holding a proper seal when you tighten the top down to the water compartment - then I would replace the seal - and filter at the same time. Hope this helps 😀
And the reducer?
Hello, between the venus, musa, and kitty which one would you say has the best built quality? Best overall?
Venus than Kitty 😀
Thank you for this informative video! I have two questions for you. The instructions say to use cold water. What's your opinion on using other temperatures (i.e., cold and lukewarm)? Also, and there may be an obvious answer to this one, but with the 4-cup version, should you consider 2 cups = 1 shot of espresso? Or is it 1-to-1 (i.e., 1 cup = 1 shot, so the 4-cup version would make 4 shots)? Thanks!
HI there, Thanks for your questions 😀 Use any water you like ! But Warm-hot water is the best to get the brew going sooner! And yes, 2 cups really equals one shot of coffee 👍
@@AlternativeBrewing thank you so much!
these instructions are quite different than most out there, some would say quite radical actually and argue against them. its good to take an idea someone gives and try it out to see if it works for you. if youre struggling with this one or others try to mix and match and see what works.
I agree! thanks for watching 😀
I have a collection of moka pots and have found that there is no 'one best way' to use a moka pot -- it highly depends on exactly which moka pot you have (and how you like your coffee to taste). Take some time to figure out exactly what works best, for the pot you have. Different beans, different grinds, different heat are the three main variables to adjust.
Hi Joshua, we bought a Bialetti Venus a month ago and were very pleased with results. But since a day or two the sealing between the upper and lower container is leaking, meaning the coffee comes out from the side and spills over the furnace. Our Bialetti is new and we can’t see anything broken. Did we misplace the rubber O-ring inside? What do you think?
FYI We use 20gr of ground coffee and 160ml of water per session.
Hi Nin, I would remove the seal and filter plate - taking notice of what way it sits in there and then clean this area where the seal sits in as well as cleaning and wiping down the seal and filter screen and place it all back together. - this should help with the seal - also be sure not to tighten it too much or esle the seal will be pinched and this may be where the leak is coming from.
Hello. Just got the 6oz. What is the best tamper to use? What size for 6oz? thank you
No tamper! 😀 Just a gentle press down with the back of the spoon is plenty - some even say that's too much.
How do you fix the lid of the Venus Moka Pot. It does not close completely. There is a half in gap in between the lid and the pot.
You may be able to adjust the screw on the lid, if it is not bent by any force it may just well be loose from the screw?
Hi all, I've purchased Venus for 2 cups. Unfortunately I could not manage to get any cream in my trials. I could not understand the reason. Should I prefer an other model ? Thanks in advance.
Try a Finer grind, cold water in the bottom first and a high heat.. sometime it can just be the coffee freshness as well. Fresher coffee will produce more crema 👌 Try find coffee that was roasted as fresh as possible
What type of rubber is the gasket made of? I cannot seem to find this information anywhere.
Silicone
And the reducer?
Do you need to remove the ring and filter for cleaning regularly?
yes this would be best done 👍
The lower chamber of my stainless steel bialetti Venus is discolored, as you would expect with aluminum, not stainless. Any suggestions for descaling or cleaning to remove the discoloration/rust? Don’t think it can be healthy to drink coffee made from it!
I believe the Venus Moka Pot is one that has a small % of aluminium used in the bottom half - but none in the top half ... Best cleaning is to used bi-cab and vinegar soak 50/50 with some water added then a gentle wipe clean - then always try to keep it dry to stop it happening again
Is it normal to have water left in the chamber after brewing or is all the water supposed to have enter the coffee catcher?
Yes it is normal to have some water left over in the bottom 👌
I was wondering if it's possible to make 2 cups of coffee using the 4 cup moka pot or should I always put the maximum amount of water?
NO, I would say 50% capacity is okay to do. No less though. And if you place a full basket of coffee in there - than you're espresso will be even stronger
What’s the best model to get if I want one hot mug Americano?
I note that Bialetti makes 2 electric moka pots: 1) the Bialetti Moka Timer Electric moka pot and 2) the Moka Elettrika. Both are aluminium. I'm wondering why they haven't put out an electric stainless steel model (eg Venus). Any ideas? Thanks
No sorry,
Hi, I need help, my gas stove is really wide for the 2 cups bialetti venus...so I did a crazy thing( desperately wanted to try it:-)) and put it within a small frying pan...how crazy is that? In addition there is no way to take the filter and the gasket out, it is placed so hard inside, what should I do? Do I need to clean it every time? Also I poured water just beneath the safety valve and nothing worked....no coffee pours out, please help!
Hi there, okay let's get coffee brewing for you first! 😀 A fry pan is going to be very slow at transferring the heat to the pot I'm afraid - I've tried this myself too 😂 I mean it works but it will take a very long time no? // You're best to get either a Heat Diffuser or Induction Plate, both readily available on-line. Or you can use some mesh wire, so long as it's quite thick wire, otherwise it won't be string enough to hold up the brewer. - I think this is your biggest issue - not getting enough heat to the unit. 👉 try adding hot water to the Moka Pot prior to placing it on the stove too, this should speed things up. - If you don't see any coffee coming out after a few minutes, turn up the heat, but if the pressure valve releases - this tells me your coffee grind to too fine. 👉 so try a medium grind if all else fails 👌
The Seal can be removed carefully using a blunt knife or fork to get underneath it to pop it out. You should only need to raise one edge and then the rest should follow. The Metal screen is held in place by this seal so that whould pop off once the seal is removed. - make sure not to tear or cut the seal - but if you do, don't worry too much as seals are available to purchase.
Let me know how you go and Happy brewing my friend!
When I follow the instructions, the Bialetti Venus 2-cup leaves about 20% of the water in the bottom chamber. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?
heat may have not been high enough - or more likely the ground coffee may have been too tightly compacted or too fine. This will stop those lasts bits of water from getting through the grinds. Also - you will also find water in the bottom every time - but 20% sounds a bit much 👍
Been working fabulously for months but suddenly the coffee is not brewing and the pressure is releasing through the valve not the coffee grinds. I have used this blend of coffee before with no problem. The pressure is so far out of whack it has buckled the filter disc! I’ve ordered a replacement disc but was hoping you could tell me why this has happened so I can avoid it happening again. Cheers
That suggest to me there sounds like a blockage in the spout or or the metal disc originally. Given the Whole unit a soak under some hot water and perhaps try using it once without coffee, just water and if there's no issue, than you may consider it is the ground coffee is either too fine or there's too much coffee in the basket causing the water to be blocked.
I've bought the 4 cup unit but it doesnt work on my induction cooktop....love any ideas if you can. Thanks
Google "Bialetti Induction Plate". It's an adapter plate that allows non induction moka pots to be heated on an induction cooktop.
Hi Daniel, one of these will help alternativebrewing.com.au/products/bialetti-induction-plate
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks for this. For some reason, the main element we use didn’t work but I tried with the other 3 and they’re all fine so problem sorted. Cheers
can we use the induction pot on normal gas stove??
Yes you can
How do you change the gasket, please?
I'll have to make a video on this - however it is rather easy to do - first get your seals form here: alternativebrewing.com.au/products/bialetti-replacement-seal-filter and it's fairly straight forward how to do it - just ensure you place the metal filter up the right way 👌
Hello. I just purchased a 4 cup Venus Moka pot to use with my Frigidaire Gallery Induction cooktop after using a classic 3 cup Moka Express with a mini hot plate. I am having a problem with the Venus on the induction. The Venus allows water that is is not boiling hot to perculate up through the channel. I am continuing to try different techniques, but I am wasting a lot of coffee and time. I am wondering if another user has found the effective technique for brewing delicious coffee with a Venus 4 Cup on an induction cooptop.
I made one more attempt and I think I figured out the problem; not enough coffee grounds to create pressure. I used a scale and measured 200ml of boiled water and attempted to add 20g of Lavazza Espresso grounds. I was only able to put 18g of grounds in the filter. I know I was not putting that much coffee in on previous attempts. I placed induction on level 4 out of 10. It stated flowing at 95 seconds. Very, very slow. It finished at 4 minutes 30 seconds. Wonderful taste!
So, my problem was I was not creating enough resistance for the water and it was allowed to flow too easily, which was also too cold.
Is this actually espresso or espresso sized coffee servings? So would I need to use an espresso roast bean?
You can use any style of coffee beans - best to try a few and see which ones you like. This is a little more watery than espresso - but not as watery as a pour over coffee - so its in between somewhere
My Venus bialetti is coming out coffee in just one side of the "tunnel" thingy inside of it. It seems like one side would be clogged... But I have tried cleaning it and nothing.
Looking better, seems like one side is almost closed, compared to the opposite side, where I can definitely see the opening...
Sounds like a tricky problem! I presume you've tried removing the O-ring + filter screen and running some hot water through the chimney?
I find rinsing does not clean all of the coffee from the inner “trench” (for lack of a better word). I usually stick the folded up corner of a paper towel down there, but that is barely satisfactory. Would love to hear if you have any tips for cleaning this area!
Great tip! Unfortunately I do not. This seems like the best way, also boiling water and swishing it around - coffee is very soluble and should come off easily enough
I use a bottle brush. Fill the upper chamber with water (or soapy water) and let it sit for an hour or more. Then dump it out, and rinse with clean water, while using the bottle brush.
Worst case, you can run a stainless steel moka pot through the dishwasher and it'll come out sparkling clean. I suspect if you add a bit of dishwasher detergent, for the soaking method, that will convince any stubborn stains to disappear (although do not use detergent with an aluminum pot).
What kind of milk do you use? I mean full cream, Homo, or low fat? I am new to coffee brewing. Thanks.
Depends really on your preferences. I don;t in fact drink much milk these days 😂
Hi there! It seems that the Venus does not produce as much crema as the brikka...however, my Italian friends recommended me this one because it is stainless steel and the brikka is aluminium, which is less durable. What do you think? Could there be a way to produce some crema with the venus or not? And should I be worried about the longevity of the brikka if I’d go with it? Thanks!
Crema is an emulsification of oils found in the coffee beans mixed with water - if the pressure isn't high enough the oils won't emulsify sufficiently to create that foam. So Moka Pots can create a crema - but it isn't a very convincing one..
The Brikka is a Moka Pot but has that additional pressure valve that increases brewing pressure to create a crema-like foam - the crema in general never lasts very long as it's still way under the regular pressures of around 9bars in an espresso machine.
Aluminium versus Stainless Steel - is more down to personal preferences and whether or not you're using an Induction cooktop. Stainless steel will work on Induction- Aluminium will not. Stainless Steel is far easier to clean and does not oxidise - Aluminium does oxidise and gets metallic stains in it if not taking care of. This is why most prefer the stainless steel version. In saying that - I find the flavour from the Aluminium Moka Pots are slightly better 😂
Alternative Brewing thanks for the comprehensive answer. Tilts me to brikka :)
What's the best induction temperature?
I would say medium to low - some induction tops pulse their heat and this can have a very disrupting effect on the brew
What is the difference between the Venus and new Venus pots? Which is better?
The new Venus has a thicker base for better heating on induction hobs. The tops are are a bit taller. They don’t say it in the manual or anything but the taller top means that the last spurts of over extracted bitter coffee stay in the chimney. My opinion, the new ‘R’ ones make sweeter, less bitter coffee. Not much difference and the old ones are fine but I prefer the new ones.
Do you think the fellow ode grinder would work for this style?
Not really. You'd literally be using the finest setting it has and nothing else.
How does the Venus compare to the regular Bialetti moka pot in terms of coffee strength?
They're about the same in terms of strength. Very close in terms of basket sizes and water volumes - so not much there - though IMHO I prefer the original Aluminium pot over the stainless steel ones.
Any tips for a Bialetti 10 cup moka pot? I keep getting bland tasting coffee.
Fill that coffee basket FULL! than have it on a slow brew - should extend the brew time and extract more flavour 😀
Alternative Brewing thank you so much!
Hi! Even when I use a low setting on my induction hob (2-3 of 10) with cold water, I have issues - first, the coffee starts brewing way too quickly, then stops, then starts again throughout the process. Almost as if the heat is surging, so you never know when it's finished (there's always water left in the bottom which I know is normal but it varies a lot). The end result is espresso that is often watery and usually a small amount compared to the amount of water I use (I have tried water amounts up to the valve, 75% and 50% of that). The espresso is not comparable to using a non induction Moka on a normal hob which is very disappointing (different flavour and strength). Any advice? I have tried already-ground coffee from different brands and ground my own too, usually to a fine grind. In summary, it seems it brews too quick and inconsistent. Thanks!
Yes, if you're familiar with both the Standard aluminium and stainless steel - you'd notice a difference in them. I prefer the Aluminium Moka POt but many people choose stainless steel for health reasons - However with only having an induction stove there's no getting around it unless you use an induction hot plate and then the old Moka pot - though - as you've already worked out - most induction stoves pulse heat - which doesn't really work well for coffee brewing. So I could suggest grinding the coffee finer - and placing it on the stove on a High Heat .. this way the stove has to keep the heat up and with a finer grind than the bre may well; be slowed down as it passes through the filter ... be sure not to go too fine or else it may over pressurise - or rather make sure you don't fill the water vessel too high above the safety valve.. This is what I would advise at the moment.
@@AlternativeBrewing Appreciate the reply! I'll give that a go. I tried pre heating the water first and then used a low stove temperature, it definitely tasted better at the end however the process was the same, it brewed very quickly
Yes, the downside of induction. I bought a very light foldable trivet from the Italian shop where I bought my stainless steel pot. Works very well. (I went from gas- yay!... to induction- boooo! Very different. I saw a French chef use a single gas burner. Looked lovely to use!)
Cheers!
How many times can you use the coffee? Or do you change it each time?
You want to remove and discard the ground coffee everytime
Thank you so much for your video. Is it 2 cup Moka Pot or 4 cup Moka Pot?
You're welcome ! 4 cup 👌
looks like a 6cup to me, not small enough for a 4
Is it necessary to remove the screen and rubber seal when cleaning?
every now and then yes 👌
How many cups is the moka pot shown in this video?
Four. He says that at the very begining :)
My coffee is just colored water (plus brews too quickly) when brewed with Bialetti. But the same coffee turns out great in an unbranded aluminium moka pot. i want to stop using aluminium which is why I bought this but the brews are day & night different.
What am I doing wrong?
If you can - grind finer coffee and add more grounds coffee to the basket. It is something you'll discover with the stainless steel pots - they do brew a little different. The coffee baskets are smaller to begin with and heat is transferred much quicker to the water for a rapid brew, so try lowering the heat to extend the brew time - this should help create a more heavy rich brew 👌
In terms of heat conductivity - aluminium takes a little longer to heat up but holds on to the heat well - keeping a consistent temperature during brewing - whereas the stainless steel transfers heat much quicker - heating up quicker, but cools down equally as fast.
Hi here, thanks for the tip but I have a question : I went away and bought my first one, the only one I could find was a 6 cups one
Yet I will pretty much only use it for a single cup a day. Any advise on how not to ruin the machine and not waste a basket full of coffee ?
Thanks in advance
Yes you can brew using smaller amounts. Half the capacity should be okay toi still brew a good enough coffee - it won't be as good as brewing the full amount - however trail and error with the grind and you should brew a coffee worthy to be drunk everyday 👌
@@AlternativeBrewing thank you for your advice !
can i use a 10 cup bialetti to brew lesser cups of coffee ? will that impact the quality of coffee brewed ?
yes - only about half the capacity though - so 5 cups
What's the best way to clean the coffee holder? I have a 6 cup bialetti stainless steel and would like to know best way to clean the little coffee grinds cup holder.
Some say to use vinegar, others say to use strong dishwasher soap.
Hot water and a gentle wipe down with a cloth will be the best way - if that doesn't work - vinegar and water 50/50 and soka - then clean under a warm tap 👌
@@AlternativeBrewing soka, Don't you mean soda?
My new Bialetti Venus 10 cup Moka Pot arrived today. I had a smaller 6 cup Moka pot (stainless steel) and I decided for various reasons to upgrade. Could you please tell me the optimum time to brew, starting from when the fluid first comes through into the upper collection chamber, to when you should take it off the heat. I'm curious. ☕
Good choice! I would say - as it begins to spurt, there's no real time frame so to speak - you want it steadily coming out rather than spurting out everywhere - which would indicate the heat is too high. Nice and steady brew until you get to the end - where it will inevitably start spurting - if you can get it just before this point and remove from the stove - that's the perfect brew.
TLDR: Spurting is bad. Too much heat or end of the brew is when this happens. Avoid at all costs.
@@AlternativeBrewing Thanks for the reply. 👍
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I bought one yesterday i like it but it is so strong when you fill backet to full and for 250 ml...must be add water after...
Yes, you are right! I do this most times too, or add some milk if you drink it with milk :)
@@AlternativeBrewing 😊
You don't have to fill it to the brim with coffee and you put more water in it.
Well, I have meticulously followed this video and have read all the comments, however, my coffee still tastes bland. I don't know if it's the Venus Bialetti or the coffee in general. I've tried various types of pre-ground coffees and even purchased an electric grinder and a manual grinder and even after grinding my own beans, it still tastes the same - I'm at a loss because I've tried everything. It does, however, make an excellent little jug to water my indoor plants!
Learning how to use a moka pot is a whole thing that some people don't have the patience to do. I have a whole collection of moka pots and the Venus is the best out of all of them.
Your results are going to vary wildly with exactly which beans you buy, and how you grind them. I suggest you try small amounts of beans from local coffee shops (not grocery stores), until you find something that tastes good. The three main variables are beans, grind, and heat level.
I remember once buying Dunkin Donuts beans from a grocery store (because I saw good reviews evvvvverywhere), and I didn't get a single drinkable cup of coffee from the entire bag. Every cup was stale and disgusting, even though I ground 'just enough', immediately before brewing. They were so bad, I returned them (never in my life, had I returned coffee beans).
You can get an amazing cup of strong coffee (my goal is 'good enough to drink black'), but you have to put a bit of work in to find 'your recipe'. The good news is, you already have a Venus.
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 thanks for the information - I guess it's just trial and error etc. Will give it another go and see what happens. All the best my friend.
So if this size produces 250ml of finished coffee, where dose the 4cups or 946ml come in?
Each cup is equal to around 30-50 ml of coffee. So a 4 cup brewer would be able to brew maximum 200ml. But more likely around 160 - 180ml.
2- 12 oz cups
Fill with filtered water, 3 spoons Illy classic/roast ground, gas stove setting 3-4, 9 minutes later done. Fill cup 1/3 full add hot water 2/3. Cream and sugar.
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Hi. I have the same pot, but mine starts sputtering from the beginning of the percolation. Also, there is always water left in the bottom chamber. Not sure what I am doing wrong
Try a heat that's not too hot. This will allow the water to slowly rise up to the top. Sputtering suggest to me that's it already boiling in the bottom. There will always be a tiny bit of water in the bottom. Never the same amount either, but perhaps try grinding your coffee a little coarser to see if this helps the water pass through the ground coffee easier. 👌
I had the same problem... The solution: Don't compact your coffee and don't use a too fine grind size for the coffee.
Too fine and too compact coffee creates pockets of steam. These pockets of steam that grow in muddy coffee explode on overheating and spew out burnt and bitter coffee.
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@@marcojimenez2725 thank you! I will try to incorporate these tips in my next brew.
You say to make it perfectly dry upon cleaning. However, the main part of the pot (that has the handle) is designed in a way where it seems impossible to get to the bottom of the pot to dry it. Any recommendation, please?
I wonder about that too. Also how to clean that part as mine has a bit of a build up of coffee oil down there
I would say do your best, than leave it upside down for an hour or so before drying it this way too, that should keep it nice and fresh with no old water, coffee or anything esle remaining from the last brew.
Brew a Hot Water brew, no coffee used. You'll be surprised at how soluble coffee is with hot water 😀
@@itsbecbec I use my daughter's thin paint brush for cleaning in that narrow groove and works perfectly.
Hi! What is the difference of the Venus and the new Venus? Also, I have a 10-cup Venus (makes 2 breakfast bowls coffee in the morning - yes, French uses bowls in the morning ;-) ) and I was wondering if I can brew less coffee with it?
That would explain why in Switzerland they say 'Eine Schale' - a bowl - of coffee :)
I would be interested to know that too!
In the New Venus, I think the hinge is not in plastic therefore fixing the design flaw I experienced where the hinge simply snapped after just 2 months of using
What happens if I only want to make 1 cup? Can I then put less coffee and less water?
Or is it 4 cups every time ?
You can brew around 50% less than normal in the Moka Pots 👌 so half the water and half the coffee
I tried making coffee for the first time in my 6-cup Venus. It took more than 10-12 mins for the brew to even start pouring out of the valve and the end result was very sour coffee. The moka pot made some hissing noise too. So, I had to unscrew the collector and put it back on. I had bought freshly ground medium roast coffee (moka pot grind) from my roaster. Why did it take so long for the brewing process and why did the coffee taste so sour? I had put the stove on medium heat and used pre-boiled water for the bottom chamber. In the end, I also found that there was some water left in the bottom chamber.
There is supposed to be water left in the bottom of the chamber after brewing, that is by design. I just read the instructions that came with my new Venus and it explains this under the bolded font section that says "IMPORTANT..."
I suspect you packed too many coffee grounds into the funnel basket (the grounds are not supposed to be compressed, like an espresso puck). I usually just fill the basket and scrape a flat knife over the top to scrape off the excess... no tamping is necessary or recommended.
I have a whole collection of moka pots, and the 6-cup stainless Venus is the best out of all of them. You should know that learning how to use a moka pot is a whole thing, though... and it widely varies with exactly what pot you have and what beans/grind you like.
I've made one nice cup out of 20 with this, I'd love to know what I'm doing wrong. Although I did notice the grind appears to be a lot finer from the video you've shown. Used a bialetti Moka pot for years with no problems. Any ideas?
Buy Lavazza Red or Gold, or any italian brend that has a grind especially for moka pot. Then you see my comment on the video. Hope that helps!
My biggest issue was actually the Induction cooktop - because some induction tops pulse and this pulsing is isn't really conducive to a good cup of coffee, you need a nice steady heat source.. but otherwise - make sure you use a full basket of coffee, top up the water, cold or hot, and on a medium heat... perhaps look at the type of coffee you're using too
@@vladiinsky Hi I've only just seen this response, thanks for taking the time. I indeed found that it was the grind. First I bought espresso pre-ground and it was fine, Then I followed the instructions on my hard grinder to produce the same grind myself. Tastes fine now!
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks for the reply. We have a gas top so the heat source is pretty consistent. Getting a finer grind did the trick for me in the end.
Grind size is very NB with Moka - somewhere between filter and espresso, closer to espresso. Do not buy filter or espresso pre ground coffee. Either invest in a grinder and grind fresh (Best) or find a roaster that you can buy Moka ground coffee from. As soon as you hear the gurgle from the pot on the stove, remove from heat source and run the base under cold water to stop over extraction. Hope this helps
Should you use soap or just hot water to clean the parts?
You can use a small amount of soap on the stainless steel mocha pots without any concern 👌
@@AlternativeBrewing thank you!
I've had a moka pot for a few months now and was brewing a cup of coffee when I noticed that the bubbling sound stopped for no reason, and when I poured the coffee out there was a ringing sound, like an object hitting the moka pot from the inside. Has anyone else experienced this?
bizzare! and haven't found anything that's creating the noise? It may be due to expansion and contraction of the metal idk
I think your safety valve might have blown, causing the coffee to stop brewing and producing the ringing sound, when it pinged off the inside of the pot. Don't use a moka pot with a malfunctioning safety valve, because excess pressure build up could be very dangerous.
Where is it made? thank you
Italy 👌
Can I use milk instead of water ?
I would not advise this. It's would block up the valve quite quickly and milk at boiling temperatures split apart and wouldn't taste good.
Whats the larges pot?
10 Cup for the Venus. 18 Cup for the Express.
Taste wise is steel better than Al ?
I prefer AL tbh
Could you put milk in , instead of water
No, sorry -they're only designed to have water and coffee in them
Can I make it 2 cup coffee in 4 cup pot.
Please tell me the process.
How to making 2 cup coffee in 4 cup pot
Hi there, just use half the water and half the coffee 😀 but don't use less than half the capacity of the brewer - it wont work as well
I bought a 2 cup one and it had a big problem (for me) - the lower part is really hard to clean. Also the gasket did not fit the machine well. My advice is to avoid - at least the 2 cup model.
Thanks for sharing
No loss.... a so-called '2-cup' model only produces a large spoonful of coffee... not enough to bother making. Normal people should go for a 6 cup - 12 cup size (which is only one or two mugs of coffee).
Why does the coffee in the video not look as strong/rich as the classic bialetti Moka pot?
Lot's of factors about the specific coffee I was using for this video that don't have any true comparison across this or the Moka Express. They'll both brew very similar rich coffee - that can have crema on it.