Heartfelt appreciation for finding this masterpiece of acting and production. Ibsen's deliberate exposure of the common incidence of the pox in 'respectable' society upset his contemporaries a great deal, of course. Anyone who actually knows about the disintegration which tabetic neurosyphilis entails would be the more horrified by the implications of the final scene.
I don't think the congenital syphilis aspect is well portrayed. The tertiary symptoms are very characteristic but rarely seen in the 21st century due to antibiotic treatment. But they are bizarre and obvious if you know what to look for. Clearly, the director did not know or intend to bring these out. The sudden mental collapse at the end struck me as singularly unrealistic.
They totally ignore that his mother was infected by the husband, giving it to the boy and will suffer the terrible effects herself. Odd to me, they ignored that glaring fact. Or am I incorrect on how the son became infected? They also did not show the physical symptoms he would have had by now. Still an excellent glimpse into Victorian attitudes and blinders on sexuality and venereal diseases. Also, the soul numbing destruction of vitality in Women cursed by conventions and duty.
@@KittymoreJoy You cannot conflate Henrik Ibsen with a fictive 'they'! Drama is not a documentary, and is necessarily selective with respect to what subject matter it can cover in one play.
The first version of GHOSTS I saw was with Judi Dench, Kenneth Branagh and Natasha Richardson, and I was blown away but I actually think THIS production is EVEN BETTER!
Thank you for posting this film. Yes, as is the case with Ibsen’s plays, it was edgy and discomforting to watch. And yet the power of the story and the gripping dialogue are such that they hold me through to the end.
I love Norwegian drama, being of Nordic descent myself, I understand it through lived experience at around 60° north. Full of contrasts: light and dark, good and evil, love and hate, tumult and silence, life and death, sick and well. You know what life throws at you ... all the time. If only life were able to be drawn in such contrasts. As every Nordic knows, shades of grey are much more real and lifelike than the pure received ideals of sacred and even secular norms. Interminable cold winters with only three hours of light are testament to this. I thought this drama was beautifully overacted... as it should be with Ibsen. A big bloody V-sign to society and life all round. Well done. What's it all about? I'll have another glass of Akvavit 'cos tomorrow I get up again in the dark and fumble my way through a hard day on the trawler, dreaming of what I am, and of what and where I'd prefer to be. Erikson, the psychologist, said that the age of despair was the preserve of old men (and women). But what does he know? He was a German, born in the realms of light. Life is about the struggle to survive. Darwin was right. Get used to it! The predator's coming for you.
@@bar10ml44 Fret not .. for we are but parasites that infest the living flesh only to depart on its demise ...... and then in our ethereal world we wait to avail ourselves of our next host .......
I studied this play at university along with The Pillars of Society, another Ibsen masterpiece. We went to the Royal Exchange in Manchester before Manchester became the cesspit it is today, to see Ghosts in the round...brilliant!
I remember watching this when first produced brilliant cast there was also I recall a production of Hedda gabler with Janet Suzman both brilliant casts
Thank you so much for this its brilliant (been searching for it for ages). The magnificent Dorothy Tutin - masterclass in acting. No chance of ibsens the wild duck from 1957 I suppose with Emlyn Williams ? Thanks again
became more interesting when boy said he wants to marry the other woman, i have to watch it again and pay more attention to see what did happen to lead to this moment.
I've found better shows than this one! This is easily one of the worst episodes, but I posted it because some people enjoy Victorian-era English dramas. i don't.
"It costs too much to get married . . . " Really? Sounds like a lame excuse. Also, so incredibly tired of having every pastor presented as a prig. What ignorance. What shallow blindness. Ibsen had no clue what depth true spirituality can create in the human heart. Refer to Alexis in The Brothers Karamazov.
İbsen in fine form, İ love how he epitomises the power of men over women, the dominence of piety from the supposed higher beings of thought & honour .MEN. İ don't think so guys. Cheers İbsen!!
@Balloon_Juice It is just possible that some pesky Nordics are communicating in this thread. If so, the word, as a man, that you may be seeking is "dominans" or, in my case "yfirráð". Please excuse the failure to spell an English word correctly in this instance. For some of us, it is not our first language, though I think you will agree we are pretty fluent nonetheless.
I do think so, guys. Way higher beings of thought and honour than women could ever be. If you weren’t so wrapped up in seeing fault in anyone and everyone else to the degree that you are blinded to your own glaringly obvious ones, you’d see it as well. But then all feminists are born hypocrites.
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What a wonderful play. Acting superb. Henrik Ibsen brilliant. Many thanks.
Ibsen was brilliant at showing the hypocrisy of society.
The British can make a film about popcorn and it'd be excellent!
Would one watch said production whilst eating popcorn ,?
That was bloody marvellous. Dorothy Tutin proving yet again what a fine actress she was. Many thanks for posting.
Heartfelt appreciation for finding this masterpiece of acting and production. Ibsen's deliberate exposure of the common incidence of the pox in 'respectable' society upset his contemporaries a great deal, of course. Anyone who actually knows about the disintegration which tabetic neurosyphilis entails would be the more horrified by the implications of the final scene.
Very tragic
I don't think the congenital syphilis aspect is well portrayed. The tertiary symptoms are very characteristic but rarely seen in the 21st century due to antibiotic treatment. But they are bizarre and obvious if you know what to look for. Clearly, the director did not know or intend to bring these out. The sudden mental collapse at the end struck me as singularly unrealistic.
They totally ignore that his mother was infected by the husband, giving it to the boy and will suffer the terrible effects herself. Odd to me, they ignored that glaring fact. Or am I incorrect on how the son became infected? They also did not show the physical symptoms he would have had by now. Still an excellent glimpse into Victorian attitudes and blinders on sexuality and venereal diseases. Also, the soul numbing destruction of vitality in Women cursed by conventions and duty.
@@KittymoreJoy You cannot conflate Henrik Ibsen with a fictive 'they'! Drama is not a documentary, and is necessarily selective with respect to what subject matter it can cover in one play.
This was fabulous and heartbreaking at the same time.
Thank you.
The first version of GHOSTS I saw was with Judi Dench, Kenneth Branagh and Natasha Richardson, and I was blown away but I actually think THIS production is EVEN BETTER!
Thank you for posting this film. Yes, as is the case with Ibsen’s plays, it was edgy and discomforting to watch. And yet the power of the story and the gripping dialogue are such that they hold me through to the end.
The old school actors were the best.
I love Norwegian drama, being of Nordic descent myself, I understand it through lived experience at around 60° north. Full of contrasts: light and dark, good and evil, love and hate, tumult and silence, life and death, sick and well. You know what life throws at you ... all the time. If only life were able to be drawn in such contrasts. As every Nordic knows, shades of grey are much more real and lifelike than the pure received ideals of sacred and even secular norms. Interminable cold winters with only three hours of light are testament to this. I thought this drama was beautifully overacted... as it should be with Ibsen. A big bloody V-sign to society and life all round. Well done. What's it all about? I'll have another glass of Akvavit 'cos tomorrow I get up again in the dark and fumble my way through a hard day on the trawler, dreaming of what I am, and of what and where I'd prefer to be. Erikson, the psychologist, said that the age of despair was the preserve of old men (and women). But what does he know? He was a German, born in the realms of light. Life is about the struggle to survive. Darwin was right. Get used to it! The predator's coming for you.
For most, life is nothing but a battle then death. Only a few make it unscathed.
@@bar10ml44 Fret not .. for we are but parasites that infest the living flesh only to depart on its demise ...... and then in our ethereal world we wait to avail ourselves of our next host .......
Dorothy Tutin was magnificent as Anne Boleyn in The Six Wives of Henry VIII
I studied this play at university along with The Pillars of Society, another Ibsen masterpiece. We went to the Royal Exchange in Manchester before Manchester became the cesspit it is today, to see Ghosts in the round...brilliant!
I love Manchester, shame you feel it is a cesspit.
@@CatherineDoverMost of the UK has collapsed most intelligent people know why but we must be silent.
@@bar10ml44Hear Hear! Well said. 👍
I never understood Isben.
The lovely Julia foster
And it all happened in a single day. Wow.
Ibsen was brilliant hat illustrating things people preferred not to discuss. Like this which covers Syphillis and Cholera in an Enemy of the people
That ending rattled me to the core.
I remember watching this when first produced brilliant cast there was also I recall a production of Hedda gabler with Janet Suzman both brilliant casts
Thank you! I appreciate you.
Absolutely superb !
Thank you so much for this its brilliant (been searching for it for ages). The magnificent Dorothy Tutin - masterclass in acting. No chance of ibsens the wild duck from 1957 I suppose with Emlyn Williams ? Thanks again
Without moving your lips , you have to say " the sun "....
😂
Dorothy Tutin. a serious loss to stage and screen.. magnificent actress.
Thank you for posting this 🙏
Tragic; overwhelming.
Well-done ❤😂🎉
Amazing loved..
Anyone else onto the sounds of someone’s’ belly rubbing towards the end? 😂
great
became more interesting when boy said he wants to marry the other woman, i have to watch it again and pay more attention to see what did happen to lead to this moment.
It would be nice if there was a synopsìs.
Any chance of The Houseboy? Not sure what season?
No chance! I've been able to find very few episodes of this series.
@@executivedecision6141 No idea how you find them AT ALL!
I've found better shows than this one! This is easily one of the worst episodes, but I posted it because some people enjoy Victorian-era English dramas. i don't.
Victorian era Norwegian dramas but I take your point. And thanks for posting. @@executivedecision6141
@@executivedecision6141 it ain't English, it's Norwegian. Ibsen is a challenging playwright.
Great actors but didn't like the end
This copy is Sooooo dark..... just my opinion
"It costs too much to get married . . . " Really? Sounds like a lame excuse. Also, so incredibly tired of having every pastor presented as a prig. What ignorance. What shallow blindness. Ibsen had no clue what depth true spirituality can create in the human heart. Refer to Alexis in The Brothers Karamazov.
"The thhun. The Thhuunn!" Lol.
@Kiinell You horrible person!
Serisouly? Why would someone so ignorant and uneducated even watch this? Making fun of him? Classy. 🙄
👎
Urim and thummim? I doubt it.
O loa d da ,utter bollox 🤡☘☘☘
As is your comment.🤔
İbsen in fine form, İ love how he epitomises the power of men over women, the dominence of piety from the supposed higher beings of thought & honour .MEN. İ don't think so guys. Cheers İbsen!!
Oh Lort!!!
I thought it was more about the normalising power of women's morality over the wayward and natural desires of men's joie de vivre.
At least as a man I know how to spell "dominance" 😉
@Balloon_Juice It is just possible that some pesky Nordics are communicating in this thread. If so, the word, as a man, that you may be seeking is "dominans" or, in my case "yfirráð". Please excuse the failure to spell an English word correctly in this instance. For some of us, it is not our first language, though I think you will agree we are pretty fluent nonetheless.
I do think so, guys. Way higher beings of thought and honour than women could ever be. If you weren’t so wrapped up in seeing fault in anyone and everyone else to the degree that you are blinded to your own glaringly obvious ones, you’d see it as well.
But then all feminists are born hypocrites.