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How to Use CARDBOARD Filament spools with Bambu Lab AMS. 3D Printing an Adapter, Test Fitting Brands
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- How to Use CARDBOARD Filament spools with Bambu Lab AMS. I will walk you through 3D Printing an Adapter, and will Test Fit, various major Brands.
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I found your channel shortly after upgrading to the Bambu P1S...you have definitely saved me a lot of time!
Welcome! Stick around. Lot's of Bambu fun. Thanks so much! 🙏🏼 Appreciate you.
P.S. Stick to Plastic spools
New to the world of 3D printing and just found your channel - so happy I did! Can't wait to watch more of your videos and learn all that I can about my P1S and about the 3D printing world in general 😃
Welcome to the party!
Been using thin OD rings for ~6 months and have worn out the AMS extrusion assy wheel due to the issues you show. Thanks for explaining those in detail.
These don't fit with the eSun spools just an FYI. But I still made some for my other manufactures. They print nice and look great. I followed your instructions and love em.
These work fairly well, but, I honestly don't love them either. It's best to just work with Plastic spools
Great video. I have printed another spool converter specially for Inland. I rip the outer cardboard off first then screw together which causes spinning somtimes on retraction. I might give these a shot to see if its better performance. Appreciate the video!
TBH, I don't like any of these adapters and I avoid Cardboard in my AMS like the Plague! Let us know how it goes
You are best off respooling onto a plastic reel. I found that the eSUN cardboard spools have the added problem of the windings tending to be jammed hard down the edges of the spool, making for too much friction and the AMS motors can’t pull the filament off the spools. The cardboard spools they use have too much give, which messes up the winding. The filament works fine when rewound onto a plastic spool.
There are some brands (the cheaper ones, interestingly) that are working on making the edges of the cardboard spools tougher. They have added glue and rounded over the edges. Those appear to work as well as plastic spools, from my - very limited so far - use of them.
Personally, I avoid them and the adapters and just go plastic. I do think we will see more changes over time, and in my experience, some of the lower cost, lesser known filaments, are the better ones. Go figure. 👍🏼
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There is a local (New Zealand) importer that has their own branded products - Chinese, but beyond that I cannot tell the source. They have PLA filaments with iron, steel, and copper infills.
The copper stuff seems pretty hard on the extruder (a nice copper coating inside it after only some small test prints) and the steel plays havoc with the AMS (which is twitchy at the best of times), however I have used the iron infill stuff a lot as it has a very good surface texture and prints very well. Has actual iron in it, as it sticks to magnets. Also fairly abrasive, as it ate some of the Bowden tubing pretty significantly. I have to do a full AMS rebuild to sort out some issues and do a swap of a poorly unit, so I’ll investigate how much wear was incurred.
Cheaper than standard eSUN PLA stuff from other suppliers.
It will be interesting to see if scale ramps up and we see better filaments for lower prices.
I tried various things.... but the one thing that does work is just re spooling them using the pastamatic. I added a small motor to it and a switch so that it turns off when its done spooling.
I start the spooling then make a cup of tea. It only takes a couple of mins if that. I use these for my business so reliability is worth the extra bit of time. I could never get any of the rims etc to work as reliably as winding it onto a bambu spool.
I have found a few brands that tend to work, but, I pretty much stick to plastic spools.
That really helped!
Had an A1 combo that I returned for the recall. I was thinking of upgrading, but after reading so many post about cardboard spools not playing well with the enclosed AMS, I may just get another A1 when they get re-released. I don't do exotic filaments, and the AMS lite doesn't care about cardboard ;)
I would 1000% go with the OG AMS, and just use plastic spools. There are plenty of affordable options that work well
Still new at this...apologies. I'm assuming by "OG" you mean use the enclosed AMS as used on the P and X series (?) I get that, but I understand that rewinding filaments on spools may not be a good idea due to how that are extruded onto the original spools, which could lead to cracking, etc. Or are you suggesting just purchasing filaments on OEM plastic spools?...sorry again about the novice queeries :/
Yes, the original AMS is just better, for so many reasons. But, I'm happy to see the industry attack color in various ways.
Also YES, just use Plastic spools. So many quality options exist.
Brilliant thanks
This spool is about 1mm too wide for the inland pla/pla+ spools. There is a remix available somewhere which will fit. Or just print up some spool rings or use electrical tape...
I don't care for any of this stuff. I go all plastic for the AMS. Keeps it easy and dependable.
Can confirm the same - just bought 5x rolls of Inland PLA+. Do you have a link to the remix so I'm sure to pick the correct one? Thanks.
Cheers mate!
I prefer the Polymakers version of the plastic conversion as its similar to the one you shared here minus the center screw making it compatible with more filiment brands aswell as a added lip to go over the cardboard roll so zero cardboard touches the AMS
Where do i find this so i can compare with the one shown here?
This adapter also leaves no cardboard contact
Comments claim it doesn't allow the AMS to close. Their official video, also shows it, with the lid open. It is also notched, speficially for Polymaker spools. There is a reason I chose THIS one, to cover. :) www.printables.com/model/495778-polymaker-cardboard-spool-adapter
Agreed, printing the one you linked to now!@@3DRundown
Unfortunately i printed one of these and did need to use a Polymaker spool next, but the Polymaker spool doesn't fit in the printer with this on it. So i guess I need the Polymaker one as well. Oh well, just more 3D printing to do...
A Great Video, I hope this works for Eryone spools, I am printing it now. Thank You
Update: Works Great with the Eryone Spools
Ah, cool-sauce. Thanks for the update! I'll have to snag an Eryone for testing
Good video
Just put electrical tape on the outer edges. As long as you don’t dent your spool it grips perfectly. Ive went through 17+ cardboard rolls with my ams this way. Cheap, good grip, and easy to install.
Just use Plastic spools.
I do find the spool rings better than this one, because of moister a spool can be slightly not rounded and with this solution you will have a little step during the rotation, with a ring you can push the spool in and everything will be smooth... I printed a small riser for the ams lid and now basically every imperfect spool fits
Truth be told, I don't like any of it. I stick to Plastic. I print ALLOT, and I've found that there are so many variables, that can cause a cardboard spool to fair, even with various methods.
tried a few ring adapters but it always ends up touching the top of the lid when i close it will try that one but i dont have much confidence this will work
This one doesn't, but I still don't love any adapters much. Better off finding spools that just get along with AMS
just print a ams lid riser, even a very small one just to have few mm of extra space and the problem is solved
@5:00, TPU won’t work in the AMS…. I print out the spool rings instead of the spool adapters….
Yes, TPU is not for use. I just waned to show the Inland spool, and TPU is what I had, however, I see how that could be bad messaging to show the TPU.
I just got the AMS and have 20kg of Elegoo filament for my N3 max and tried these inserts and nope they dont fit. Hope someone designs one for Elegoo spools. I currently use the rings.
Truth be told. I don't use any of this stuff. Adopt a brand with plastic spools, and never look back.
I'm going to try this in the morning, I've been having so much trouble with elegoo cardboard spools just in a drybox (I don't have an AMS) but I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks for sharing Greg.
Hey Dave, did you notice that I tested the Elgoo, and, ironically, it was the only one that didn't fit. The smaller size will likely work, but I didn't get to test it yet. Let me know if you do!
@@3DRundown Yeah I did notice, I'll let you know what I end up with. Thanks Gregg.
@@Crazy_Dave howd hyou go on this?
@@nerkTV I never found a solution so I redesigned my dry boxes to support the spool through the center hole. But the problems didn't stop there, the 5 spools from Elegoo that I had were so tightly wound that it would stop the extruder from pulling the filament through, resulting in failed prints. My fix for that is a bullet shaped piece on the end of some PTFE tube inside the dry box. I believe it's available from the Bambu maker world. I just checked and it isn't available as it failed their slice test so hasn't been published. Worked okay for me 😄
@@Crazy_Dave got a link to something similar on maker world?
I have Elegoo filament is there an adapter that fits the AMS?
I am thinking the smaller size from this same link. The one for the mini rolls, May work. I haven't tried it yet. The elgoo hole is smaller
@@3DRundown okay thanks, I was able to find a few options for Elegoo adapters made especially for Elegoo wheels.
Link me to your favorite one
@@Mrv1960can you share the link asap ? I have elegoo wheels
How does this work when the original cardboard spools (so far like 4+ brands I have on hand) are running REALLY close to the edge of the rubberized roller on the AMS (i.e. those rolls are thicker, so many times only a hair of either/both edges of the spool is on the roller in the AMS to begin with), and when you add MORE thickness to this, like your design does, they're then thicker STILL... putting even WAY less surface area for those thinnish rollers to grab onto and move the spool back and forth.
Also, and I truly don't mean to be nasty here, but please don't comment with "just use Plastic spools" like you're done here many times... that's really NOT a solution... it is SUCH a PITA to re-spool one cardboard roll to a plastic roll... do NOT want to go that route... just want my ~$1500 X1C w/ AMS to work...
Well, my answer is exactly that. Just use plastic spools. There are so many quality brands that use Plastic spools, I can't think of any reason to stress over cardboard spools. There are also endless printable model options, for cardboard spools, that people use on the regular. Me, I do not. I burn threw countless plastic spools a month on my Bambu's, and I have no plan to change that. I go through tons of Elegoo, Jayo, Creality, Anycubic, Sunlu..... Take your pick
This doesn't work bc many cases the cardboard spools are bent and this will cause it to be jammed in ams
Sure. That can totally happen. But "in many cases" is not my experience. Super Rarely, is my experience...
You need to stop giving me cool things to print...
I'll try, but no Promises. J/K, I won't try! 😂😂😂 Send It!
I was JUST looking at purchasing JAYO filament and had no clue about how cardboard spools don’t work on the AMS.. thank you so so much 🙏🏽😭🫡
JAYO is my #2 Fav filament, and #1 most used. Such timing!